September 12, 2025 • 36 mins
It has been 24 years since al-Qaeda attacked the United States with four coordinated terror attacks on September 11, 2001. Is the world ready for another big terror attack, or has the threat been neutralized? Futurist KEVIN CIRILLI joins us to discuss where new attacks could occur, and what may happen next in the global war on terror.
National Correspondent RORY O’NEILL shares the latest on the search for the gunman who killed Charlie Kirk
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Two three Starting your morning off right, A new way
of talk, a new way of understanding because we're in
the strigim. This is your morning show with Michael o'
gill chrum.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Well, we live in interesting times. What can I tell you?
The President of the United States, after appearing at Yankee
Stadium last night, of which you went to the clubhouse
shook hands with Aaron Judge. Aaron Judge responded by hitting
two home runs last night the Yankees won. He just
casually announced on Fox and Friends that the assassin of
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Charlie Kirk is in custody and that he was turned
in one close to him.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
You know, we had been talking about.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Ring camera up him walking with the rifle in his pants,
limping then running with the rifle, jumping off the building,
the close ups of the cameras in the stairwell. Once
you got a guy's face, somebody knows him unless you've
lived in a bubble. Professional assassins are not on social media.
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Professional assassins aren't out in the public and social Nobody
knows what they look like, nobody knows who they are.
They have no life print, let alone fingerprint. This was
not a professional assassin, and it sounds like a family
member turned him in and it also looks very much
like we suspect far left. One of the points I
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was going to make prior to this and we ran
out of time, was when because you know, Charlie had
a lot of great moments with kids too, joking around
about Starbucks, you know, joking around about little things. This
is what you know the He was a full, three
dimensional figure that people loved and trusted. And if you
Google search for some clips, you get a lot on
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transgendered issue and I think that's what we're going to
have here, and they just will not have a conversation.
They just will not see logic or fact. It's very emotional,
it's very entrenched. Some of the mild examples you see
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are people that are just refusing to have a conversation,
and ultimately that's what leads with ending the conversation, by
ending the life. I'd be very shocked at this point
now if Charlie obviously was the target and the motive
was obviously his views on gender identity. But the President
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of the United States just casually the biggest story by
far of the week, if not year. I don't want
to anybody sued. But no breaking news, no news conference, nothing.
The President is saying he's in custody, so he didn't
kill himself. It sounds he didn't die being apprehended, and
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we're going to learn a lot more about why he
killed Charlie Kirk. So that's reality. That's breaking news of
this hour. The manhunt is over and the shooter is
in custody. Pretty good work for less than two days.
Forty eight hours. Meanwhile, the Vice President and the second
lady on Air Force two went to Erica, the wife
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and children, and retrieved the body of Charlie Kirk to
return at home personally to Phoenix where the funeral will happen.
The President, of course, will be at that funeral, that's
been clear, and he will posthumously award Charlie Kirk with
the Medal of Freedom.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
That's reality. Now let's get to the future.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
It's a twenty four years in a day since al
Qaeda attacked the United States, although I will tell you
it's not the first time. The attack the World Trade Center,
that was nineteen ninety three. So I have a big
problem calling it an awakening. It shouldn't have been. That's
number one. But if it isn't awakening, the question is
have we fallen back asleep? So is the world just
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is likely to have a major terror attack today as
it was twenty four years ago? Or has the threat
been neutralized? The past tends to repeat itself, and a
good futurist always studies the past. But that's who we
should ultimately talk to. Lucky for you, we have when
Kevin Sirilli. He's one of my favorite contributors to the show.
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And good morning, Kevin, Good morning. It's been a really
rough week. But that news that.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
You just broke is I don't want to call it
good news, but it's definitely I think it's just being
in the killer.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
It's just justice. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I would argue that the assassination of Charlie Kirk is
a form of terrorism of course, so you know, and
talking about what's happened twenty four years ago, and of
course September twelfth conjures up the optimism and hope of
unity and coming together for our country. I think it's
also an opportunity to talk about all of the advances
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that we've made in national security over the.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Last two and a half decades.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
But the big takeaway that I want folks to remember
from this is the way that we try to prevent
acts of terror from happening while also protecting our freedoms.
When we talk specifically, whether it's the assassination of Charlie
Kirk or the horrific tragedy of September eleven, two thousand
and one, the way that we now try to prevent
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terror from happening is in many ways applicable to how
meteorologists are able to track weather patterns. What do I
mean by that? The hijackers had to get on planes
before they flew them into the Twin Towers and the
Pentagon and Pennsylvania, But nowadays, because of the cyber domain,
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they don't even have.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
To leave wherever they are in the world.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
So being able to protect the dark web, protect the Internet,
being able to leverage artificial intelligence to track these patterns
before people are radicalized, before people are radicalized. And you
can be radicalized not just as an isis terrorist, but
you can be radicalized into killing or assassinating someone like
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we've seen against.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Charlie Kirk, who is a father.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
And being able to leverage technology to prevent that radicalization,
I believe is one of the biggest, biggest challenges of
our times.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Turn your head, because I'm going to talk good about
you in front of your face. This is why I
love Kevin, and I'm going to resist the same urge
he's resisting. And that is just make a mountain out
of that statement of fact. Yes, human intelligence is still powerful,
you know, chatter is still powerful, all these things, and
we can track things and so on. I always said,
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first of all, when the nine to eleven Commission concluded
it was a failure of imagination, wrong because I saw
the movie Executive Decision that came out before this, and
it was hijacking a plane and using the plane as
a missile itself.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
So that's not true.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
But we never did expect anybody with box cutters to
get it on a plane and use it again they
would move on to the next technology and the next way,
and now it can all be done with drones too.
So there's so many things to fear, but you want
to go to where it begins and the radicalization of
where it begins. And I could add to that, Kevin,
We've got research showing about twenty eight percent now support
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finding Some thirty eight percent of respondent said it would
be at least somewhat justified to murder Donald Trump. Thirty
one percent said the same about Elon Musk. I suspect
the numbers were probably lower, but with the same for
Charlie Kirk. In our case, I'm going to go right
to the question, what if the ratications coming from Hollywood?
What if the radicalizations coming from cartoons? What if the
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radicalizations coming from K through twelve teachers and textbooks and
university professors and reinforced in media and or legacy news media.
How do you stop that and protect freedom of speech?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
I think it's a really fair question. I think that
the where my mind goes and I had I was,
I'm in.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Washington, d C.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
And I met with a source yesterday, a really senior
space source, And where my mind goes to answer your
question directly is but are are we are all Americans
regardless of who you are.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Are I try to.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Dig even one layer beyond that. Who is puppeteering that?
And I would argue it's the Chinese Communist Party. I
would argue it's Iron Russia North Korea. When you have
Osama bin Laden his letter to America going viral as
it did a year ago on TikTok, which is a
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Chinese Communist Party backed technology platform, say what you want
about MTV, but back then, if China or Russia owned
MTV in the nineteen nineties when not ascended, that.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Never would have been able to be allowed.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
But the fact that Osama bin Laden's letter, which by
the way, attacked all Americans regardless of your religion, sexual orientation,
it didn't care, it didn't discriminate in how much it
hated America. That China perpetuated that and put that viral,
and you had gen Zers being unwillful idiots and ignorant
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idiots puppeteering that and amplifying that unknowingly is disgusting and
Washington has to do something about it.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
How much time do we have I put you at
this time?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
So we'd have more time, but I've learned to realize
we never have enough time together.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
You know, maybe we.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Should start a podcast, But do we do you have
a minute more or two more?
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Okay, so here but here's my point. So if.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
If we were to address this, I would use the past,
and the past I would use is and I think
this is the crossroads we're at because I think worldwide
we're on the precipice of either moving dramatically towards an
extended peace or dramatically towards an escalated world war.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I mean it could be in it.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I don't see Putin or radical islamis backing down, so
something's coming.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I have a very bad feeling about that.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Here at home, were either headed for and I love
the irony of it, a turning point back to God,
to traditional family, to common sense, to facts, to reasonableness,
or we're about to ready to launch even further into
a civil war, dangerous time. In the midst of that,
I would look to the past, and I would tell
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you the last time it was all defeated. I either
looked to nineteen sixty eight, when did all the assassinations
and killing stopped. I got to go to Richard Nixon,
who stopped talking to the radical right and the radical
left and talked to the majority center, and that calmed it.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
That was one.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
The other was when the world was on the precipice
of war, the Soviet Union was defeated and the Cold
War was won. When Ronald Reagan, Pope John Paul the Second,
and Margaret Thatcher united and convinced the world. All three
were assassinated. Reagan was shot, should have bled out and lived.
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I'll get to the Pope last. The Margaret Thatcher an
explosion intended to blow her up.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
She lived.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
But don't forget Pope John Paul the Second. He was
shot by a radical Islamist who was hired, paid for
and it was coordinated by the KGB. At which time
Vladimir Putin was with the KGB very high up and
did not like the Soviet Union losing, did not like
the Cold War ending. And now he's in charge and
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he'll make sure it doesn't. But ever underestimate. I think
in this case it's gonna be like Minneapolis. I think
we've got somebody probably transgendered and obsessed, that would be
more like who shot Reagan. But never under estimate that
Russia and China loves to know our weaknesses and loves
to instigate us. They would love to instigate us into
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a civil war that destroys ourselves rather than face us
in World War three. Oh, you are so right, And
I think we get there logically from the past, not
being a throw a dart, you know, at some bullseye
and be a futurist. No, the past tells us that's
what's happening, and so does reality.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
That's so well said, and there's nothing more radical right now.
And this is you know, whether you would that's what
was so I think why one of the many reasons
why Charlie Kirk resonated and why you're seeing you know,
And there's been a couple of dumb comments like I'm
not living under a rock, but why I think you're
seeing so many of them I received. The vast overwhelming
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majority has been uh, praise, praise for his legacy of
showing up the places and having a dialogue, a civil dialogue.
And you've seen China and Russia take those snippets and
try to say oh and try to divide it against everybody.
But his whole point was going into places and doing
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what Americans do best, talking to each other.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
And so that's because we don't assassinate, we don't shoot,
and we don't tell. When we know your kids' names
and we're talking to you. That that was what Charlie. Listen,
I've been looking at it. I did a whole different
angle on Charlie Kirk yesterday, and that is I wanted
to talk to the memory of Charlie Kirk as a parent,
and I used my parents, probably not praying at night like.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I do for my kids.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
But what an answer to prayer that my parents never prayed,
that God had in Frank Gloria who shared the Gospel
with me, or Bruce Wilkerson, or Leonard Ravenhill or Watchman
Knee or Josh McDowell, all these influences that shape my life.
And that's why I love God, love my wife, love
my children, obey the law, all the things our founding
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fathers knew we could self govern and do. But Charlie Kirk,
I hope, was an answer to the parents of this
generation or prayer you should have been praying. He reached
our kids in ways we couldn't where we wouldn't go,
and he silenced the textbooks, the professors, Hollywood, the mainstream media,
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and he won a generation, I think, to prepare them
for something very difficult that I fear. But he did.
And that same God'll bring us the next and he'll
bring us the next one. But it's powerful what he did.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
It's so powerful he did it.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I mean, I would say he did it better than
President Trump. I remember traveling the country with President Trump
covering his improbable campaign in twenty fifteen, when I was
embedded as one of the first less is signed to
cover his campaign. When I previously worked at Bloomberg News
as the chief Washington correspondent, and everyone always said, oh,
there's FDR in the fireside chats, and then there's Donald
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Trump and Twitter. Now, of course it's X. But what
Charlie Kirk did was he said, Okay, Twitter's just the
tip of the iceberg, my friends, it's YouTube shorts, because
I mean, you know this, I'm a millennial and and
history really does rhyme, and I'm I'm a practicing Catholic,
and I don't try to you know, my face is
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very personal to me.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
But ten seconds for a heartbreak.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
So yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Kind of the same week that we got a millennial
Saint Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Is welcomed into heavens.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Oh, and I'll do and I'll do you one better.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
The same answer to prayer and our campuses for our
kids could be in death, the answer to our great
divide as a nation if it responds.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
This is your Morning Show with Michael delch No, No.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
The breaking news.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
The assassin who took the life of Charlie Kirk is
in custody.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
Any updates on the suspect? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (16:09):
Can I always say, I think just to protect us
all and so Fox doesn't get sued and we all
don't get sued and everything else, but I think with
a high degree of certainty we have him in custody,
in custody.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
Everyone did a great job.
Speaker 7 (16:27):
We worked with the local police, the governor, everybody did
a great job.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Any updates on the suspect? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
So is it interesting?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, not a news conference, not a breaking story, an
alert casually the President sitting on the college with the
Fox and Friends. He's in custody. After what we waited
for last night?
Speaker 3 (16:50):
When and how I guess to be told later.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
This is James from Greenwood, South Carolina, and Morning show
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Speaker 3 (17:08):
Hi, I'm Michael.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
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you're here. Now enjoy the podcast. I woke up frustrated yesterday.
We got the first images of the shooter, the reports
that the rifle, a thirty odd six Mouser bolt action rifle,
was found, footprints, fingerprints, Palm Prince. Then we're told there's
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going to be a news conference at three o'clock. I
even expected the announcement to be made that he's dead
or captured, and it gets postponed because of rapidly increasing
investigative developments. Then all afternoon, all evening, not up peepe.
Then they say well within the hour. Then I couldn't
even stay up long enough for that. And the big
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breakthrough was you had the FBI director Cash Patel, assistant
director Dan Bongino all flying there when I knew they
were flying there, and then I was still up when
they arrived. I thought they got him, and all they
released was the video of him running off the roof
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and jumping down a story and a half. So we
had these ring videos of him walking with the rifle
and his leg limping. We have him on the roof,
we have him going up the stairs, we have him
jumping off the building, and then we have close ups
of his face. So it's a matter of time. He's
the shooter for sure, and we've got his face. Somebody's
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going to know him. Turned out to be someone close
to him. But that was frustrating yesterday last night. Then
I wake up and this is just strange. No breaking news,
no news conference. The President sits down casually on the
Fox and Friends couch and makes the announcement like this.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
I think that I don't want to go too far.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
I'd like to tell you some stories at how it happened,
but essentially, somebody that was very close to him turned
them in, and that happens when you had some of.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Those good shots.
Speaker 7 (19:32):
Somebody is going to say whether it's a parent or whatever.
I'd rather not say right now. They're going to announce
it today sometime later, probably talk about that. But somebody
close to him turned them, as you know, they said, whoa,
it's interesting. Well, we had very good pictures, but not great,
not perfect. And when you look at it, what happened
is somebody and this happens a lot. It happened with
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the crazy Boston bomber, it happened with others.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
Somebody that recognized even a little tilt of.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
The head which nobody else would do, and somebody who
was very close to him said, hmm, that's him and
essentially went to the father, went to a US marshal
who was fantastic, by the way, and the person was
involved with law enforcement, but was a person of faith,
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a minister, and I brought him to a US marshal
who was fantastic, and the father convinced the son this
is it.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
And again I'm always.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
Subject to be corrected, but I'm just giving you based
on what I'm hearing.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
They'll give you much more active.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
I just heard about it five minutes before I walked in.
As I'm walking in, they said, looking real good. They
have the person that they wanted. So you have breaking news.
Don't you think you always have breaking news?
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Answer?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Just a very strange presentation. I'm live on the air,
same thing. I'm going to regret. But I don't think
I'm being dramatic and saying this nation is at a
turning point back towards peace, sense and sensibility, or further
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towards escalation in civil war. And this could potentially have
been one of the first shots of a civil war.
And I think they would like the right to respond.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Thank God.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
So far, no one has always remain true to who
you are. Defend yourself if somebody comes after you. But
we respond in love, we respond in truth because we're
the solution, not the problem. But this was a very
casual way to do this. You would normally have a
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call for a news conference, speculation he may be captured,
and then America is briefed on the update. But this
happens so casually and strange. But yes, it appears according
to the President of the United States, the assassin of
Charlie Kirk is in custody. I guess we will learn
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more about what was etched on bullets and on the
rifle or if it wasn't etched at all. I think
the only thing the President really gives us is Okay,
well they didn't plan this and hold it for Fox
and Friends. That would have infuriated me. President claiming he
just found out five minutes earlier, and you know, but
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this is a strange way for this to have come
to a conclusion. Highlights from yesterday. The Vice President of
the United States on Air Force two with the second lady,
goes the sight of the shooting, retrieves the body and
the widow and the family, and brings them home where
he will be laid to rest in Phoenix. Powerful moment,
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the President signifying he will give him the Medal of Freedom.
I presume it will be at the funeral that the
President says he will attend. This is a lot of ceremony.
This is a lot of stuff that's never been extended
to any civilian in the history of our country. And
I'm sure the left is going to find that strange.
You might be finding that strange in the center or
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the right. But the more you study Charlie Kirk, the
more it's going to make sense. In death, he will
live up to the examination of life that's called this.
But obviously the vice president very close friends with Charlie Kirk,
as is the President's son.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Junior.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I talked about one of the things I scratched my
head the most about. I just know that I know
that I know that Donald Trump wanted Marco Rubio to
be vice president and be the next president. And we
know that Donald Trump Junior talked him into JD. Vans,
And we know that JD. Vance and Junior are best
friends with Charlie Kirk. And Charlie Kirk is the one
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that convinced JD. Vance did not be a never Trumper.
And then Junior convinces the president he's the right vice president,
He's the right next president.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
We need the youth.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Was it Charlie Kirk that influenced the administration to wisely
use Joe Rogan.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
And the Internet? And I want to go back and
finish with this.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
In the DNA of Charlie Kirk, and I could play
you the clip of Rush limbad. Rush met him when
he was still a teenager, and Russia's impression was, this
kid's going to be president of the United States.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
That's bizarre, that's bizarre. I knew Rush personally. I listened.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I was one of his first affiliates and listened to
him for decades. Rush didn't make claims like that. Then
we find out all these close ties. Number One on
the preceding who Charlie Kirk became. Charlie Kirk wanted to
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be the next Rush Limbaugh, and Charlie Kirk at eighteen
was wise enough to know radio wasn't the place. And
he's right, I'm in radio. We're not reaching any kids.
We're talking to parents and grandparents. First thing that I
think God showed him that he obeyed wisely beyond his ears,
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and he transformed an entire generation, and their response to
his death is a turning point too. He may become
far more powerful in fact, just as Charlie Kirk was
an answer to parents like me our prayers. I'm out
numbered by teachers, I'm out numbered by professors. I'm out
numbered by Hollywood. I can't compete with the Internet. Somebody's
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got to go save my kids. Charlie Kirk did. That's
what he did in life. In death, he may solve
the very problem of us being on the brink.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Of a civil war. The part of this is how
it's handled, and.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I don't like the way yesterday was handled, and I
should don't like the casualness of the way this morning
was handled.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
It's bizarre to me. But this is amazing how this
all ties together.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
The only thing that's kind of an outstanding thing in
this whole conversation is the safety of the president, who
doesn't seem very concerned about his security. It's all I'm
concerned with. It was very encouraging you to talk to
White House, correspond to John Decker and say no Secret
Service is concerned and things have changed.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
I pray.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
So the other is a It's basically three different polls,
but they all point to the same thing. The left,
and specifically the left on campus, believes in violence. Remember
yesterday did the whole lesson on two words existential. Everything's
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an existential threat. This guy's a Nazi, this guy's a fascist.
It's an existential threat to democracy if he wins democracy.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
As we know all over, that's very dangerous talk.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
And they may shut up for a week or so,
but they'll get right back to it and they try
to lead an insurrection. If Trump had won the election
in twenty twenty and then they had to call it off,
it's still their plan. They would love for somebody on
the right to fire back today. Trust me, they're wanting it,
and so our enemy. But I said, don't forget those
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two words. Everything's the next esstential threat that gins it
up and they'll get right back to it. And the
other is when people stop debating, they just silence, and
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that's through violence. And that's what we're finding. One in
three students believe that using violence to stop campus speech
is acceptable.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I should just.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Pause and give you sixty seconds of silence to consume
that that's what our universities have created. Oh, they haven't
done a good job affordably providing people with the training
and education for citizenry or the workforce. But the wokeness,
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the socialization, the indoctrination, this is what they've created, Not scholars,
violent insurrectionists. One in three college students, and I bet
you can find more than one in three college students
on campuses yesterday saying good he's dead. In short, there's
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a lot of work to still be done on campuses.
Who's the next Charlie Kirk? You know what Charlie would say,
you all of us, it's not enough to know the truth.
It's not enough for us to know what's right. We
gotta a live it. We gotta b proclaim it, we
gotta se evangelize it, and we got to d defend it.
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We gotta go be light. We got to go where
they're at talk radios, not where they're at. And he
died going there. Get achieved so much in life in
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(30:11):
a lot worse real fast. And these numbers from campuses
don't look good. The left, you know, saying the right
thing this week or maybe even next week. But they'll
get right back to it. The only one with a
certain future and reality is Charlie Kirk. Our is a
(30:31):
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the assassin of Charlie Kirk according to the President of
the United States on Fox and Friends, is in custody,
and it appears to be turned in by his own father.
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Speaker 2 (31:55):
It's your Morning show with Michael del Joanno.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
The President of the United States, and Fox and Friends
announces the assassin of Charlie Kirk is in custody. We're
gonna have a news conference from Utah coming up in
about eight minutes. That would be nine a m. Eastern,
eight Central. So the President breaks the news. It looks
like a family member is what turned him in? The
(32:21):
picture is what did it? Roy O'Neil. That was very
strange last night with the way the news conference was
suspended and then what they finally revealed after Cash Patel
and Dan Bongino arrived and then the casualists of the
president this morning.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
But I guess it'll all make sense in eight minutes, right,
we hope.
Speaker 8 (32:38):
So certainly, the FBI is expected to have a press conference,
as you said, that's supposed to start at the top
of the hour. The President, though still speaking on Fox
and Friends this morning on a wide range of topics,
of course, the assassination of Charlie Kirk front and center,
and the President saying that they have a high degree
of certainty with this person who was taken into custody
(32:59):
for questioning. Apparently, and as you had just said, it
looks like our family member had turned him in. After
the video was released last night, they're really put together
that timeline as to how things unfolded on Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, and I think they had narrowed and the President
kind of alluded to that. The President claims he wasn't
aware until five minutes before going on Fox, but I
suspect last night they knew who he was, because the
President alludes to a story of the Marshall working with
the father and that's who convinced the son to turn
himself in, because we all knew this was going to
add one of three ways he was going to kill
(33:32):
himself before he was captured. He was going to die
by being captured, or he was going to be captured alive.
And it seems as though they have him in custody
and live, and we'll get more details. I guess we'll
find out more about if there were etchings on ammunition
and the rifle.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
Yeah, and I'm curious to see how the cell phone
played into this.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Was that a factor? Was it just going off the tip?
Speaker 8 (33:52):
You know, how did they actually go to find him,
did he actually come up and surrender?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
You know all those details.
Speaker 8 (33:57):
You know, last night, when the FBI did that announcement
and the release of the video that did not take
any questions, even though cash Bettel was there had flown
him from DC to be in Utah for the press conference,
but he didn't say anything last night, and because there
were no questions, it felt a little hollow. But they
really wanted to focus on the message of getting that
video out to the public and showing it more than
(34:20):
a talking head and Electron.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
And so the video we have ring cameras showing him
and he's clearly limping because he's got the rifle under
his armpit and going down the pant leg. That's not
the case when he's running away with a rifle in
his hand. You see him going up the stairs, You
see him on the roof. You see him running off
the roof, putting the rifle down, then jumping off the roof.
So I mean, at that point you know, oh, that's
(34:43):
the shooter, now Whozzy. Apparently something led to the breakthrough
of who he is, and it appears to be a
family member based on the photo. It was pretty extraordinary
yesterday too to have the vice President, the second lady
in Air Force two retrieved family and the body of
Charlie Kirk and bring it home for burial. Powerful moments
(35:05):
and I can't think of any time in history as
civilian was given such a treatment.
Speaker 8 (35:11):
Yeah, I was trying to think of something that was comparable,
but didn't come to mind. And it just reflects as
well how important Charlie Kirk was to JD.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Vance.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
Kirk was on board early with the JD, helping him
run his Senate campaign. We believe he was influential and
having President Trump choose Vance to be his running mate
as well, and of course Charlie was very friendly with
Don Junior.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
So this really is I think it's a sorrowful time
for the whole Trump family. It really is.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
And the President's going to give him the Medal of Freedom,
the highest honor, and I suspect do so at the
funeral that he intends to attend. I just don't understand
if it's this weekend or next weekend. I keep hearing
next weekend.
Speaker 8 (35:52):
Right, because the President's going to London on Tuesday, so
it's a three day state visit there, so you really
can't move much.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
So it's either going to have to happen this weekend
or next what a week I won't even bother asking
what's onund The Weekend Dive.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
It's being re edited as we speak.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
As we speak Rory O'Neil The Weekend Dive. You can
search your iHeartRadio app for that. It's also heard on
two hundred stations nationwide. God bless you all Right, let's
all go watch the news conference or listen to the
news conference and see the assassin and custody and get
all the details to have a great weekend, get some rest.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
We'll see them Monday.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
Well, we live in interesting times. What can I tell you?
The President of the United States, after appearing at Yankee
Stadium last night, of which you went to the clubhouse
shook hands with Aaron Judge. Aaron Judge responded by hitting
two home runs last night the Yankees won. He just
casually announced on Fox and Friends that the assassin of
(00:54):
Charlie Kirk is in custody and that he was turned
in one close to him.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
You know, we had been talking about.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Ring camera up him walking with the rifle in his pants,
limping then running with the rifle, jumping off the building,
the close ups of the cameras in the stairwell. Once
you got a guy's face, somebody knows him unless you've
lived in a bubble. Professional assassins are not on social media.
(01:26):
Professional assassins aren't out in the public and social Nobody
knows what they look like, nobody knows who they are.
They have no life print, let alone fingerprint. This was
not a professional assassin, and it sounds like a family
member turned him in and it also looks very much
like we suspect far left. One of the points I
(01:47):
was going to make prior to this and we ran
out of time, was when because you know, Charlie had
a lot of great moments with kids too, joking around
about Starbucks, you know, joking around about little things. This
is what you know the He was a full, three
dimensional figure that people loved and trusted. And if you
Google search for some clips, you get a lot on
(02:10):
transgendered issue and I think that's what we're going to
have here, and they just will not have a conversation.
They just will not see logic or fact. It's very emotional,
it's very entrenched. Some of the mild examples you see
(02:31):
are people that are just refusing to have a conversation,
and ultimately that's what leads with ending the conversation, by
ending the life. I'd be very shocked at this point
now if Charlie obviously was the target and the motive
was obviously his views on gender identity. But the President
(02:51):
of the United States just casually the biggest story by
far of the week, if not year. I don't want
to anybody sued. But no breaking news, no news conference, nothing.
The President is saying he's in custody, so he didn't
kill himself. It sounds he didn't die being apprehended, and
(03:14):
we're going to learn a lot more about why he
killed Charlie Kirk. So that's reality. That's breaking news of
this hour. The manhunt is over and the shooter is
in custody. Pretty good work for less than two days.
Forty eight hours. Meanwhile, the Vice President and the second
lady on Air Force two went to Erica, the wife
(03:37):
and children, and retrieved the body of Charlie Kirk to
return at home personally to Phoenix where the funeral will happen.
The President, of course, will be at that funeral, that's
been clear, and he will posthumously award Charlie Kirk with
the Medal of Freedom.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
That's reality. Now let's get to the future.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
It's a twenty four years in a day since al
Qaeda attacked the United States, although I will tell you
it's not the first time. The attack the World Trade Center,
that was nineteen ninety three. So I have a big
problem calling it an awakening. It shouldn't have been. That's
number one. But if it isn't awakening, the question is
have we fallen back asleep? So is the world just
(04:16):
is likely to have a major terror attack today as
it was twenty four years ago? Or has the threat
been neutralized? The past tends to repeat itself, and a
good futurist always studies the past. But that's who we
should ultimately talk to. Lucky for you, we have when
Kevin Sirilli. He's one of my favorite contributors to the show.
(04:38):
And good morning, Kevin, Good morning. It's been a really
rough week. But that news that.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
You just broke is I don't want to call it
good news, but it's definitely I think it's just being
in the killer.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
It's just justice. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I would argue that the assassination of Charlie Kirk is
a form of terrorism of course, so you know, and
talking about what's happened twenty four years ago, and of
course September twelfth conjures up the optimism and hope of
unity and coming together for our country. I think it's
also an opportunity to talk about all of the advances
(05:16):
that we've made in national security over the.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Last two and a half decades.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
But the big takeaway that I want folks to remember
from this is the way that we try to prevent
acts of terror from happening while also protecting our freedoms.
When we talk specifically, whether it's the assassination of Charlie
Kirk or the horrific tragedy of September eleven, two thousand
and one, the way that we now try to prevent
(05:43):
terror from happening is in many ways applicable to how
meteorologists are able to track weather patterns. What do I
mean by that? The hijackers had to get on planes
before they flew them into the Twin Towers and the
Pentagon and Pennsylvania, But nowadays, because of the cyber domain,
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they don't even have.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
To leave wherever they are in the world.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
So being able to protect the dark web, protect the Internet,
being able to leverage artificial intelligence to track these patterns
before people are radicalized, before people are radicalized. And you
can be radicalized not just as an isis terrorist, but
you can be radicalized into killing or assassinating someone like
(06:28):
we've seen against.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Charlie Kirk, who is a father.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
And being able to leverage technology to prevent that radicalization,
I believe is one of the biggest, biggest challenges of
our times.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Turn your head, because I'm going to talk good about
you in front of your face. This is why I
love Kevin, and I'm going to resist the same urge
he's resisting. And that is just make a mountain out
of that statement of fact. Yes, human intelligence is still powerful,
you know, chatter is still powerful, all these things, and
we can track things and so on. I always said,
(07:05):
first of all, when the nine to eleven Commission concluded
it was a failure of imagination, wrong because I saw
the movie Executive Decision that came out before this, and
it was hijacking a plane and using the plane as
a missile itself.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
So that's not true.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
But we never did expect anybody with box cutters to
get it on a plane and use it again they
would move on to the next technology and the next way,
and now it can all be done with drones too.
So there's so many things to fear, but you want
to go to where it begins and the radicalization of
where it begins. And I could add to that, Kevin,
We've got research showing about twenty eight percent now support
(07:43):
finding Some thirty eight percent of respondent said it would
be at least somewhat justified to murder Donald Trump. Thirty
one percent said the same about Elon Musk. I suspect
the numbers were probably lower, but with the same for
Charlie Kirk. In our case, I'm going to go right
to the question, what if the ratications coming from Hollywood?
What if the radicalizations coming from cartoons? What if the
(08:04):
radicalizations coming from K through twelve teachers and textbooks and
university professors and reinforced in media and or legacy news media.
How do you stop that and protect freedom of speech?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
I think it's a really fair question. I think that
the where my mind goes and I had I was,
I'm in.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Washington, d C.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
And I met with a source yesterday, a really senior
space source, And where my mind goes to answer your
question directly is but are are we are all Americans
regardless of who you are.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Are I try to.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Dig even one layer beyond that. Who is puppeteering that?
And I would argue it's the Chinese Communist Party. I
would argue it's Iron Russia North Korea. When you have
Osama bin Laden his letter to America going viral as
it did a year ago on TikTok, which is a
(09:02):
Chinese Communist Party backed technology platform, say what you want
about MTV, but back then, if China or Russia owned
MTV in the nineteen nineties when not ascended, that.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Never would have been able to be allowed.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
But the fact that Osama bin Laden's letter, which by
the way, attacked all Americans regardless of your religion, sexual orientation,
it didn't care, it didn't discriminate in how much it
hated America. That China perpetuated that and put that viral,
and you had gen Zers being unwillful idiots and ignorant
(09:39):
idiots puppeteering that and amplifying that unknowingly is disgusting and
Washington has to do something about it.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
How much time do we have I put you at
this time?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
So we'd have more time, but I've learned to realize
we never have enough time together.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
You know, maybe we.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Should start a podcast, But do we do you have
a minute more or two more?
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Okay, so here but here's my point. So if.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
If we were to address this, I would use the past,
and the past I would use is and I think
this is the crossroads we're at because I think worldwide
we're on the precipice of either moving dramatically towards an
extended peace or dramatically towards an escalated world war.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I mean it could be in it.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I don't see Putin or radical islamis backing down, so
something's coming.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I have a very bad feeling about that.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Here at home, were either headed for and I love
the irony of it, a turning point back to God,
to traditional family, to common sense, to facts, to reasonableness,
or we're about to ready to launch even further into
a civil war, dangerous time. In the midst of that,
I would look to the past, and I would tell
(10:52):
you the last time it was all defeated. I either
looked to nineteen sixty eight, when did all the assassinations
and killing stopped. I got to go to Richard Nixon,
who stopped talking to the radical right and the radical
left and talked to the majority center, and that calmed it.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
That was one.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
The other was when the world was on the precipice
of war, the Soviet Union was defeated and the Cold
War was won. When Ronald Reagan, Pope John Paul the Second,
and Margaret Thatcher united and convinced the world. All three
were assassinated. Reagan was shot, should have bled out and lived.
(11:30):
I'll get to the Pope last. The Margaret Thatcher an
explosion intended to blow her up.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
She lived.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
But don't forget Pope John Paul the Second. He was
shot by a radical Islamist who was hired, paid for
and it was coordinated by the KGB. At which time
Vladimir Putin was with the KGB very high up and
did not like the Soviet Union losing, did not like
the Cold War ending. And now he's in charge and
(11:58):
he'll make sure it doesn't. But ever underestimate. I think
in this case it's gonna be like Minneapolis. I think
we've got somebody probably transgendered and obsessed, that would be
more like who shot Reagan. But never under estimate that
Russia and China loves to know our weaknesses and loves
to instigate us. They would love to instigate us into
(12:19):
a civil war that destroys ourselves rather than face us
in World War three. Oh, you are so right, And
I think we get there logically from the past, not
being a throw a dart, you know, at some bullseye
and be a futurist. No, the past tells us that's
what's happening, and so does reality.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
That's so well said, and there's nothing more radical right now.
And this is you know, whether you would that's what
was so I think why one of the many reasons
why Charlie Kirk resonated and why you're seeing you know,
And there's been a couple of dumb comments like I'm
not living under a rock, but why I think you're
seeing so many of them I received. The vast overwhelming
(13:04):
majority has been uh, praise, praise for his legacy of
showing up the places and having a dialogue, a civil dialogue.
And you've seen China and Russia take those snippets and
try to say oh and try to divide it against everybody.
But his whole point was going into places and doing
(13:24):
what Americans do best, talking to each other.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
And so that's because we don't assassinate, we don't shoot,
and we don't tell. When we know your kids' names
and we're talking to you. That that was what Charlie. Listen,
I've been looking at it. I did a whole different
angle on Charlie Kirk yesterday, and that is I wanted
to talk to the memory of Charlie Kirk as a parent,
and I used my parents, probably not praying at night like.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I do for my kids.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
But what an answer to prayer that my parents never prayed,
that God had in Frank Gloria who shared the Gospel
with me, or Bruce Wilkerson, or Leonard Ravenhill or Watchman
Knee or Josh McDowell, all these influences that shape my life.
And that's why I love God, love my wife, love
my children, obey the law, all the things our founding
(14:10):
fathers knew we could self govern and do. But Charlie Kirk,
I hope, was an answer to the parents of this
generation or prayer you should have been praying. He reached
our kids in ways we couldn't where we wouldn't go,
and he silenced the textbooks, the professors, Hollywood, the mainstream media,
(14:31):
and he won a generation, I think, to prepare them
for something very difficult that I fear. But he did.
And that same God'll bring us the next and he'll
bring us the next one. But it's powerful what he did.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
It's so powerful he did it.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I mean, I would say he did it better than
President Trump. I remember traveling the country with President Trump
covering his improbable campaign in twenty fifteen, when I was
embedded as one of the first less is signed to
cover his campaign. When I previously worked at Bloomberg News
as the chief Washington correspondent, and everyone always said, oh,
there's FDR in the fireside chats, and then there's Donald
(15:10):
Trump and Twitter. Now, of course it's X. But what
Charlie Kirk did was he said, Okay, Twitter's just the
tip of the iceberg, my friends, it's YouTube shorts, because
I mean, you know this, I'm a millennial and and
history really does rhyme, and I'm I'm a practicing Catholic,
and I don't try to you know, my face is
(15:31):
very personal to me.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
But ten seconds for a heartbreak.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
So yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Kind of the same week that we got a millennial
Saint Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Is welcomed into heavens.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Oh, and I'll do and I'll do you one better.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
The same answer to prayer and our campuses for our
kids could be in death, the answer to our great
divide as a nation if it responds.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
This is your Morning Show with Michael delch No, No.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
The breaking news.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
The assassin who took the life of Charlie Kirk is
in custody.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
Any updates on the suspect? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (16:09):
Can I always say, I think just to protect us
all and so Fox doesn't get sued and we all
don't get sued and everything else, but I think with
a high degree of certainty we have him in custody,
in custody.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
Everyone did a great job.
Speaker 7 (16:27):
We worked with the local police, the governor, everybody did
a great job.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Any updates on the suspect? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
So is it interesting?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, not a news conference, not a breaking story, an
alert casually the President sitting on the college with the
Fox and Friends. He's in custody. After what we waited
for last night?
Speaker 3 (16:50):
When and how I guess to be told later.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
This is James from Greenwood, South Carolina, and Morning show
is your Morning Show with Michael Dojorno.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Hi, I'm Michael.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
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(17:28):
you're here. Now enjoy the podcast. I woke up frustrated yesterday.
We got the first images of the shooter, the reports
that the rifle, a thirty odd six Mouser bolt action rifle,
was found, footprints, fingerprints, Palm Prince. Then we're told there's
(17:50):
going to be a news conference at three o'clock. I
even expected the announcement to be made that he's dead
or captured, and it gets postponed because of rapidly increasing
investigative developments. Then all afternoon, all evening, not up peepe.
Then they say well within the hour. Then I couldn't
even stay up long enough for that. And the big
(18:12):
breakthrough was you had the FBI director Cash Patel, assistant
director Dan Bongino all flying there when I knew they
were flying there, and then I was still up when
they arrived. I thought they got him, and all they
released was the video of him running off the roof
(18:32):
and jumping down a story and a half. So we
had these ring videos of him walking with the rifle
and his leg limping. We have him on the roof,
we have him going up the stairs, we have him
jumping off the building, and then we have close ups
of his face. So it's a matter of time. He's
the shooter for sure, and we've got his face. Somebody's
(18:55):
going to know him. Turned out to be someone close
to him. But that was frustrating yesterday last night. Then
I wake up and this is just strange. No breaking news,
no news conference. The President sits down casually on the
Fox and Friends couch and makes the announcement like this.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
I think that I don't want to go too far.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
I'd like to tell you some stories at how it happened,
but essentially, somebody that was very close to him turned
them in, and that happens when you had some of.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Those good shots.
Speaker 7 (19:32):
Somebody is going to say whether it's a parent or whatever.
I'd rather not say right now. They're going to announce
it today sometime later, probably talk about that. But somebody
close to him turned them, as you know, they said, whoa,
it's interesting. Well, we had very good pictures, but not great,
not perfect. And when you look at it, what happened
is somebody and this happens a lot. It happened with
(19:55):
the crazy Boston bomber, it happened with others.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
Somebody that recognized even a little tilt of.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
The head which nobody else would do, and somebody who
was very close to him said, hmm, that's him and
essentially went to the father, went to a US marshal
who was fantastic, by the way, and the person was
involved with law enforcement, but was a person of faith,
(20:21):
a minister, and I brought him to a US marshal
who was fantastic, and the father convinced the son this
is it.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
And again I'm always.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
Subject to be corrected, but I'm just giving you based
on what I'm hearing.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
They'll give you much more active.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
I just heard about it five minutes before I walked in.
As I'm walking in, they said, looking real good. They
have the person that they wanted. So you have breaking news.
Don't you think you always have breaking news?
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Answer?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Just a very strange presentation. I'm live on the air,
same thing. I'm going to regret. But I don't think
I'm being dramatic and saying this nation is at a
turning point back towards peace, sense and sensibility, or further
(21:18):
towards escalation in civil war. And this could potentially have
been one of the first shots of a civil war.
And I think they would like the right to respond.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Thank God.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
So far, no one has always remain true to who
you are. Defend yourself if somebody comes after you. But
we respond in love, we respond in truth because we're
the solution, not the problem. But this was a very
casual way to do this. You would normally have a
(21:56):
call for a news conference, speculation he may be captured,
and then America is briefed on the update. But this
happens so casually and strange. But yes, it appears according
to the President of the United States, the assassin of
Charlie Kirk is in custody. I guess we will learn
(22:20):
more about what was etched on bullets and on the
rifle or if it wasn't etched at all. I think
the only thing the President really gives us is Okay,
well they didn't plan this and hold it for Fox
and Friends. That would have infuriated me. President claiming he
just found out five minutes earlier, and you know, but
(22:47):
this is a strange way for this to have come
to a conclusion. Highlights from yesterday. The Vice President of
the United States on Air Force two with the second lady,
goes the sight of the shooting, retrieves the body and
the widow and the family, and brings them home where
he will be laid to rest in Phoenix. Powerful moment,
(23:09):
the President signifying he will give him the Medal of Freedom.
I presume it will be at the funeral that the
President says he will attend. This is a lot of ceremony.
This is a lot of stuff that's never been extended
to any civilian in the history of our country. And
I'm sure the left is going to find that strange.
You might be finding that strange in the center or
(23:30):
the right. But the more you study Charlie Kirk, the
more it's going to make sense. In death, he will
live up to the examination of life that's called this.
But obviously the vice president very close friends with Charlie Kirk,
as is the President's son.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Junior.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I talked about one of the things I scratched my
head the most about. I just know that I know
that I know that Donald Trump wanted Marco Rubio to
be vice president and be the next president. And we
know that Donald Trump Junior talked him into JD. Vans,
And we know that JD. Vance and Junior are best
friends with Charlie Kirk. And Charlie Kirk is the one
(24:12):
that convinced JD. Vance did not be a never Trumper.
And then Junior convinces the president he's the right vice president,
He's the right next president.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
We need the youth.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Was it Charlie Kirk that influenced the administration to wisely
use Joe Rogan.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
And the Internet? And I want to go back and
finish with this.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
In the DNA of Charlie Kirk, and I could play
you the clip of Rush limbad. Rush met him when
he was still a teenager, and Russia's impression was, this
kid's going to be president of the United States.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
That's bizarre, that's bizarre. I knew Rush personally. I listened.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I was one of his first affiliates and listened to
him for decades. Rush didn't make claims like that. Then
we find out all these close ties. Number One on
the preceding who Charlie Kirk became. Charlie Kirk wanted to
(25:19):
be the next Rush Limbaugh, and Charlie Kirk at eighteen
was wise enough to know radio wasn't the place. And
he's right, I'm in radio. We're not reaching any kids.
We're talking to parents and grandparents. First thing that I
think God showed him that he obeyed wisely beyond his ears,
(25:46):
and he transformed an entire generation, and their response to
his death is a turning point too. He may become
far more powerful in fact, just as Charlie Kirk was
an answer to parents like me our prayers. I'm out
numbered by teachers, I'm out numbered by professors. I'm out
numbered by Hollywood. I can't compete with the Internet. Somebody's
(26:07):
got to go save my kids. Charlie Kirk did. That's
what he did in life. In death, he may solve
the very problem of us being on the brink.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Of a civil war. The part of this is how
it's handled, and.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I don't like the way yesterday was handled, and I
should don't like the casualness of the way this morning
was handled.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
It's bizarre to me. But this is amazing how this
all ties together.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
The only thing that's kind of an outstanding thing in
this whole conversation is the safety of the president, who
doesn't seem very concerned about his security. It's all I'm
concerned with. It was very encouraging you to talk to
White House, correspond to John Decker and say no Secret
Service is concerned and things have changed.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
I pray.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
So the other is a It's basically three different polls,
but they all point to the same thing. The left,
and specifically the left on campus, believes in violence. Remember
yesterday did the whole lesson on two words existential. Everything's
(27:30):
an existential threat. This guy's a Nazi, this guy's a fascist.
It's an existential threat to democracy if he wins democracy.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
As we know all over, that's very dangerous talk.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
And they may shut up for a week or so,
but they'll get right back to it and they try
to lead an insurrection. If Trump had won the election
in twenty twenty and then they had to call it off,
it's still their plan. They would love for somebody on
the right to fire back today. Trust me, they're wanting it,
and so our enemy. But I said, don't forget those
(28:04):
two words. Everything's the next esstential threat that gins it
up and they'll get right back to it. And the
other is when people stop debating, they just silence, and
(28:28):
that's through violence. And that's what we're finding. One in
three students believe that using violence to stop campus speech
is acceptable.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I should just.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Pause and give you sixty seconds of silence to consume
that that's what our universities have created. Oh, they haven't
done a good job affordably providing people with the training
and education for citizenry or the workforce. But the wokeness,
(29:01):
the socialization, the indoctrination, this is what they've created, Not scholars,
violent insurrectionists. One in three college students, and I bet
you can find more than one in three college students
on campuses yesterday saying good he's dead. In short, there's
(29:27):
a lot of work to still be done on campuses.
Who's the next Charlie Kirk? You know what Charlie would say,
you all of us, it's not enough to know the truth.
It's not enough for us to know what's right. We
gotta a live it. We gotta b proclaim it, we
gotta se evangelize it, and we got to d defend it.
(29:48):
We gotta go be light. We got to go where
they're at talk radios, not where they're at. And he
died going there. Get achieved so much in life in
such a short time at thirty one, I'm still curious
what he's going to achieve in death. Because we're at
a turning point and this gets better or it gets
(30:11):
a lot worse real fast. And these numbers from campuses
don't look good. The left, you know, saying the right
thing this week or maybe even next week. But they'll
get right back to it. The only one with a
certain future and reality is Charlie Kirk. Our is a
(30:31):
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the United States on Fox and Friends, is in custody,
and it appears to be turned in by his own father.
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Speaker 2 (31:55):
It's your Morning show with Michael del Joanno.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
The President of the United States, and Fox and Friends
announces the assassin of Charlie Kirk is in custody. We're
gonna have a news conference from Utah coming up in
about eight minutes. That would be nine a m. Eastern,
eight Central. So the President breaks the news. It looks
like a family member is what turned him in? The
(32:21):
picture is what did it? Roy O'Neil. That was very
strange last night with the way the news conference was
suspended and then what they finally revealed after Cash Patel
and Dan Bongino arrived and then the casualists of the
president this morning.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
But I guess it'll all make sense in eight minutes, right,
we hope.
Speaker 8 (32:38):
So certainly, the FBI is expected to have a press conference,
as you said, that's supposed to start at the top
of the hour. The President, though still speaking on Fox
and Friends this morning on a wide range of topics,
of course, the assassination of Charlie Kirk front and center,
and the President saying that they have a high degree
of certainty with this person who was taken into custody
(32:59):
for questioning. Apparently, and as you had just said, it
looks like our family member had turned him in. After
the video was released last night, they're really put together
that timeline as to how things unfolded on Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, and I think they had narrowed and the President
kind of alluded to that. The President claims he wasn't
aware until five minutes before going on Fox, but I
suspect last night they knew who he was, because the
President alludes to a story of the Marshall working with
the father and that's who convinced the son to turn
himself in, because we all knew this was going to
add one of three ways he was going to kill
(33:32):
himself before he was captured. He was going to die
by being captured, or he was going to be captured alive.
And it seems as though they have him in custody
and live, and we'll get more details. I guess we'll
find out more about if there were etchings on ammunition
and the rifle.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
Yeah, and I'm curious to see how the cell phone
played into this.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Was that a factor? Was it just going off the tip?
Speaker 8 (33:52):
You know, how did they actually go to find him,
did he actually come up and surrender?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
You know all those details.
Speaker 8 (33:57):
You know, last night, when the FBI did that announcement
and the release of the video that did not take
any questions, even though cash Bettel was there had flown
him from DC to be in Utah for the press conference,
but he didn't say anything last night, and because there
were no questions, it felt a little hollow. But they
really wanted to focus on the message of getting that
video out to the public and showing it more than
(34:20):
a talking head and Electron.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
And so the video we have ring cameras showing him
and he's clearly limping because he's got the rifle under
his armpit and going down the pant leg. That's not
the case when he's running away with a rifle in
his hand. You see him going up the stairs, You
see him on the roof. You see him running off
the roof, putting the rifle down, then jumping off the roof.
So I mean, at that point you know, oh, that's
(34:43):
the shooter, now Whozzy. Apparently something led to the breakthrough
of who he is, and it appears to be a
family member based on the photo. It was pretty extraordinary
yesterday too to have the vice President, the second lady
in Air Force two retrieved family and the body of
Charlie Kirk and bring it home for burial. Powerful moments
(35:05):
and I can't think of any time in history as
civilian was given such a treatment.
Speaker 8 (35:11):
Yeah, I was trying to think of something that was comparable,
but didn't come to mind. And it just reflects as
well how important Charlie Kirk was to JD.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Vance.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
Kirk was on board early with the JD, helping him
run his Senate campaign. We believe he was influential and
having President Trump choose Vance to be his running mate
as well, and of course Charlie was very friendly with
Don Junior.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
So this really is I think it's a sorrowful time
for the whole Trump family. It really is.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
And the President's going to give him the Medal of Freedom,
the highest honor, and I suspect do so at the
funeral that he intends to attend. I just don't understand
if it's this weekend or next weekend. I keep hearing
next weekend.
Speaker 8 (35:52):
Right, because the President's going to London on Tuesday, so
it's a three day state visit there, so you really
can't move much.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
So it's either going to have to happen this weekend
or next what a week I won't even bother asking
what's onund The Weekend Dive.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
It's being re edited as we speak.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
As we speak Rory O'Neil The Weekend Dive. You can
search your iHeartRadio app for that. It's also heard on
two hundred stations nationwide. God bless you all Right, let's
all go watch the news conference or listen to the
news conference and see the assassin and custody and get
all the details to have a great weekend, get some rest.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
We'll see them Monday.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
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