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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:32):
You know what, I grow up.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I want to sound like Mike McCann well, but I'm
not in a hurry to grow up anytime soon. Seven
minutes after the hour, Good morning, and welcome to Thursday, September,
the eighteenth year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I'm looking at pictures of Donald Trump with the Prime.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Minister, and he just has this look sitting in the
chair of a guy who really is needing to have
a round of golf. That's the look I get when
I go too many days without golfing, but I get
to golf today. The President has designated the far left
anti fascism movement ANTIFA a terrorist organization. He wants everyone
(01:05):
donating to Antifa investigated major donors.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
That is. Disney has canceled.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
The Jimmy Kimmel's Show for the Foreseeable Future for comments
made about the assassination of Charlie Kirk. And we had
three police officers killed in York County, Pennsylvania. It was
a routine domestic violence arrest warrant and fire was opened
and three of those that served the community were killed.
(01:30):
Our thoughts and prayers are with their family. And Week
three of the NFL kicks off tonight Thursday Night Football
and AFC East Showdown not the showdown it used to be.
Dolphins are really struggling. Our bills should take care of them.
But that's why you play the game and take everybody seriously.
We did get the Fed to cut the rate for
the first time in nine months, a quarter of a point.
We're going to get to what that might mean for
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the economy and for the market and ultimately for mortgage
rates and the housing crisis. But David Bonson, in addition
to being an economist and our money, is also a theologian.
And you know I asked this question of David Sanati earlier,
and I'm sorry, I'm so distracted, and I have you
I have to ask it of you. Here's where we
find ourselves in a culture that abandoned God, and by
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doing so, absolute right and wrong, absolute truth for moral relativism,
woke emotion based on narratives not facts, and journalism is dead.
How is a culture like that going to be able
to solve a problem that requires moral certainty, critical.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Thinking, calm and unity.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
That's really the challenge we're at right now, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Well, of course it is. But the answer is that
it's not going to be able to solve it. It's going
to try to solve it the way so many on
the right are trying to solve it now, with right
wing populism, right wing authoritarianism, right wing wokeism, and so
we basically have to have a substitute God. And this
comes back back to the Garden of Eden, where the
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original sin was Adam and Eve deciding to play gods themselves.
And then we see it in the very first commandment,
that's all I know the gods before me. And we
see it in First Samuel when a civil magistrate in
Israel was instituted because the people wanted a king. When
you abandon God, you always are trying to substitute it
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with something else. It's what the definition of the word
idolatry is. So the problems you describe in our culture,
you rightly identify it comes from the vacuums that's been
created by us removing God and his ethical standards from
the public square.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
And then what we're doing.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Right now is a big game of whack a mole,
of trying to replace it with different things, none of
which are the real thing. They're all counterfeit.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I want to stop and talk to God about you
for a second. Thank you God for this brother and
bringing him into my life. I love you. Amen. All right.
So when I said earlier.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Careful, careful that you're cheering Jimmy Kimmel got fired, because
that's just cancel culture now, canceling wokeness the way it
used to cancel us for.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Not being woke. That's more of the problem, not the solution.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And I suspect a lot of my listeners like, why
aren't you celebrating Jimmy Kimmel getting fired? Well, I didn't
watch him before, and I'm not going to watch him
now that he's gone obviously, But but you bring up
something My mother used to say it this way a man.
This was my first introduction into truth. A man never
leaves his wife unless he's got another woman. That was
the old Italian way of looking at it. The truth
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is we never abandon something without replacing it. That's why
the Bible talks so much about idolatry, and we ignore
all of that talk so much, and we certainly ignore
the fact that we made ourselves the idol.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
That's an important distinction.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
And if God is still the solution for all those
that claim God as we do that are listening, you're
called love your enemies, You're called to love your neighbor,
you're called to forgive. In other words, it's we're not
playing the game right yet, are we?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
No?
Speaker 5 (05:11):
No, And then I guess the question becomes for people
like you and me, what is the way in which
the culture can get back to a place of playing
the game right? And and you know, we're naturally impatient
because if you look at the time period it took
for God to be removed from the public square, for
the church to decide that religion was a private matter,
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and we could stop proclaiming the truth claims of Christianity
and and just sort of be content to have a
little private religion, you know, in our bedrooms. If that,
you know, it took years and years, decades and decades.
I think that we need revival. I think we need reformation.
(05:55):
I think we need repentance. But I don't think that
those things come in in elections. Michael, I don't think
they come I don't think they come from canceling Jimmy Kimmel,
I don't think. You know, there's certain things along the
way that you want to happen, and and just you know,
I'm going to celebrate tax cuts, and I'm going to
celebrate you know, Trump getting rid of DEI in the
military and stuff like that, Like there's going to be victories.
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But my point is that the big picture comes from
Christian education. It comes from faithful churches, It comes from
families staying together, It comes from you know, basic obedience
in the public square. And and then that kind of
recipe for a good life for individuals becomes the recipe
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for a good life for society. The micro morphs into
the macro. This is an economic principle. There's a school
of thought and economics. Michael that says, well, there's microeconomic clause,
but then there's macroeconomic pause that are totally different. As
if what's good sauce for the goose is not sauce
for a bunch of bees, it's a ridiculous idea. And
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what is the recipe for good life? It's us being married,
being in a fellowship with his spouse, being supported by
people who love us unconditionally, having jobs and careers where
we produce goods and services to meet the needs of humanity,
where our hopes and dreams are fulfilled, that those things work,
and then and then it becomes infectious across society. So,
(07:22):
Michael Jackson here, I was.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Just gonna say, and by the way, everything you just
expoused is what Charlie Kirk stood for and preached.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
It's being lost.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Well, he really did and and and he did it,
I think far more eloquently, even in the last year
or two of his life, as he himself had children,
as he himself was now a married man. I've watched
the guy mature before my very eyes. And when I
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say mature, he died at thirty one. Okay, I can't
even comprehend what I was at thirty one, and I
don't want to even think about it because I believe,
you know, I made a comment on a social media
post over the weekend that every single thing I've done
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in my life that I can look back on and
be proud of or hopeful about or reflect on that matters.
Every bit of it happened after I was thirty one
years old.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I led a pretty remarkable teenage life and then I
had the most awful twenties where I did everything stupid,
and it was right about thirty one and by thirty
three that I finally grew up, got it together, and
I mean grew up in christ. So your analogy strikes
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me right at home, and there's no I know, people
are always you know, this guy was going to be
president of the United States someday, I don't know. You
might have been Billy Graham someday. I don't know what
he would have been. I just would have loved to
have seen it, and now we won't. I used to
sign all my books with Second Chronicle seven fourteen, and
many people had any idea what that was. It's one
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time in the Bible, specifically where God addresses a nation
that gets so lost, and the call was, if my
people will repent, confess their sins, humble themselves and pray.
That's always a difficult one. It is a path for
how awakening can be created. Only God can heal a land,
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especially when it's a nation under God. But what would
precipitate it? And it does kind of suggest that maybe
the problem begins in the church.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Well, it certainly does, and I think that there is
a precedent for this as we see the way you
know that Paul went about establishing the early Church. You know,
I'm all of the above guy. I believe in something
that the late Abraham hyper referred to as spear sovereignty.
That there is a sphere for the state with a
jurisdic it has, which is primarily justice. There's a sphere
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for the church. There's a sphere for the family. And
we need to recognize all three of the silos, what
their legitimacy is, what their job is, as distinct from
one another. But all are important and all are under
the wordship of Christ. And so all of the above
I want to see brought you into subjection to Christ.
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And over time, I really hope that we will see
this great improvement in a society around us. But the
idea that the church will be unfaithful and the rest
of the culture will come around strikes me as ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
David Bonson is not only an economist and the money was,
He's also a theologian. I feel like we needed theologian
more today than we need an economist, although I'm going
to get to the interest rate cuts real quickly. So
in nineteen sixty eight, which feels very much like today,
the assassinations, the violence, we had the hippie movement turned
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to the Jesus movement, which created a cultural awakening and
a spiritual revival. At the same time, we had Richard
Nixon refusing to talk to the extreme right or the left,
saying it's being greatly overrepresented visually in a television era.
I'm going to talk to the majority of the American
people who are sensible and in the center. These are
all the things that are not happening now. Is there
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a reason to be hopeful that maybe, rather than being
the first shot of a civil war down the road,
that this could be a shot that is going to
create an awakening and a revival. Does this event have
that capability.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Well, my answer is that yes, it has that capability,
but obviously I wouldn't make a prediction as to where
it would go. There's so many differences in terms of
where the culture is right now. And then also I think,
you know, just the leadership on top. What I believe
we need is revival, reformation, not retribution. But we also
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need justice and ethics. You know, I want this guy
who did it to get the death penalty. I don't
want people who agree with my politics to say, now
it's our turn to do it, or this means war.
I want the rhetoric to be toned down. I want
their reunifying moment. And yet at the same time, I
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am very sympathetic to the argument that it's hard to
get unity. On the other side has certain people celebrating death,
so you know, there is no communion of light with darkness.
But I don't think it's right versus left. I don't
think it's maga versus woke. I think our divides are
spiritual and what we need is a remnant of faithful
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Christians that believe in freedom, believe in virtue that will
be faithful presence and work very, very hard there's a
lot to do. Is this moment going to have an
impact it is?
Speaker 7 (12:59):
What will it be?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I don't know, but I will.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Say this, there's lessons from history, But boy, is it
ever true that history sometimes rhymes but very rarely repeats.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
David Boonsen quarter point cut first and nine months. That's
kind of exactly what was expected. I didn't expect the
market to react very much because it was built into
the cake. I don't know what kind of an economic
response there will be, and I don't know if this
will trickle to mortgage rates coming down, which is the
ultimate crisis we've been trying as all of the housing crisis.
But what do you make of this cut and really
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the notion of more cuts.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
To come, Well, you're right, just that was one hundred
percent expected, And then what they did do is validate
the market suspicion that two more cuts were coming this year,
which is now getting close to one hundred percent. So
we will end up being down seventy five basis points
by the.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
End of the year from where we were.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Going into yesterday. It's doubtful we'll get a full point,
but then going into next year, I think it's like
get more well, a lot of people were missing. The
reason the market didn't go up yesterday in the news
is it was already one hundred percent known. And the
fact of the matter is that the reason the FED
is cutting is that they see the economy weakening. And
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so if you have a strong economy at a FED
cutting that, you know, risk assets can just run to
the moon. That's what happened in the late nineties of
green Span. But when you have the FED cutting because
it's fighting another force, which is a weakening jobs market,
that's a very tricky predicament. And so uh, there's.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
A tug of war going on.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
I would argue that the FED was late. You brought
up mortgage rates. The thirty year mortgage rate was down
sixty basis points in the last four weeks, so the
mortgage market started pricing in some cuts well before the
FED did it. The problem is when you go from
seven to six point three six point four, you know,
you still just have a very long ways to go.
(14:57):
And you did get the largest amount of we finances
last week that we've seen in a while, but that's
actually people who had done a mortgage at seven and
a half that were redoing it.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
That's that's people dealing with debt and helocks. That's not
people freeing up the market. Right that inventory, I think
that number is probably still four and a half or
five percent.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
We're a year or more or a long way away
from that.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Hey, listen, I want my listeners to know you never
know what we're going to talk about before you come
on the air.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Well, you always come through.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
You're a remarkable brother, you're a remarkable friend, and you're
a remarkable economist. But today we needed the theologian. Thank
you so much. I appreciate you so much, David Bonson
more than you'll ever know.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Thank you, brother.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
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Speaker 1 (15:48):
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Speaker 2 (15:50):
Roy O'Neil has the latest done the murder of Charlie
Kirk and an update on the plans for his memorial
service that's coming up. We've got about six or seven
of your talkbacks. I know I'm run behind, but I
want to get your voice. Can't have your morning show
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the sounds of the day of the year coming up
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next for you.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
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Speaker 2 (16:12):
Break for your local news, and then we'll come back
Sounds the day, roy O'Neil and your talkbacks and more
as your Morning Show continues. The big story Disney has
dumped Jimmy Kimmel's show, taking him off the year for
the foreseeable future. We don't know if this is a
permanent firing. These things tend to go that way, and
there were all indications they weren't going to renew him anyway.
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At the end of the year. President Trump has designated
Antifa as a terrorist organization wants all those that have
been donating to them to be investigated.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
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My Morning show is Your Morning Show with.
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have your morning show without you. So to the talkbacks
we go in Sacramento. Here's Roger Morning, Michael Jeffrey and read.
I want to make a comment about Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 8 (17:30):
I think one of the biggest mistakes of his adult
life was not staying closer friends with Adam Carolla. Maybe
if he had a little more perspective on the world,
he wouldn't find himself in this spot.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Well, I think you know, I always watch Graham Norton
on the BBC in England, and he has often the
same stars that we have, but it's a completely different
show and it's designed to be entertaining. It's fun, it's funny,
it's on predicted deal. It's what late night used to be.
(18:03):
We've come a long way from Johnny Carson. That's the
big mistake here that late night talk shows have become
radicalized by the far left, just like the shooter. I
wonder that led ultimately to Jimmy Kimmel's demise, But that
is a various stute observation. Roger I never thought about
is distancing himself from Adam and Center and being centered.
(18:28):
I would think it's deb but I guess her handle
is Debo Deebo in Nashville.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
The Kimmel thing is a head scratcher, for sure.
Speaker 9 (18:35):
I think it's just another way to divide us. I mean,
in reality, the conservative bass or whatever, if you want
to pick sides, probably would have never even heard or
seen what he said because nobody watches his show, and
instead of letting his contract run out.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
They just.
Speaker 9 (18:55):
Decided to do this, and now it's all over the media. Anyway,
just another way to divide.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
My take.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Oh yeah, God, I love my listeners. You guys are
so smart. What you're really describing as the matrix? So
the right side, we don't watch them anyway. We were't
going to watch him if he stayed, and we weren't
watching when he said it. The left, the same left
that informed him to make such an ignorant comment. They're
going to feel like victims now. I mean, I just
watched the Emmys make a victim out of Stephen Colbert.
(19:21):
Stephen Colbert got canceled because he lost forty million dollars
and no one was watching. Stephen Colbert had less of
an audience than I had in Tells, Oklahoma, doing afternoons
on KRMG in nineteen ninety two. That's why he got fired.
That's why Jimmy Kimmel wasn't going to be renewed. But
they will turn this into Donald Trump got him fired,
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and you won't be able to stop it because the
left will be in their bubble reading and watching the
same things and repeating it. That's why I said, you're
not solving anything. To solve the matrix. Steve's in Oklahoma.
Speaker 10 (19:56):
City Tall, the Trump haters online everywhere.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I just tell them, Hey, the mortgage rates you're talking
about these days, mine's less than half of that.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I did a refine during Trump version one. So carry on, my.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Friend, gloating. Are you well, I'm at two point. You
don't want to know, Youngstown, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Michael, isn't the death comalvie of sin? Isn't death up
to God? Not up to man?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Well, Jesus himself was put to death through capital punishment.
Oh that's different. He was God. He had to be
sacrificed the perfect life. There would be no way of
a toment Okay. He was also between two thieves and
as one was mocking him, the other said, look, we
did stuff. This guy's done nothing, and Jesus said you'll
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be with me today in paradise, but didn't speak against
capital punishment. No, the basic difference is, and Charlie talked
about this a lot in the abortion argument. The left
will always try to make that an inconsistent and see,
how can you be for the life of the unborn
and also be for capital punishment because the unborn is
innocent and had a right to life, liberty, and a
pursuit of happiness. It was a sacred creation of God
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that had done nothing wrong. Someone facing capital punishment has
done something egregiously wrong. That's the difference. That's not murder.
Murder is taking a life you had no right to take.
Capital punishment would fall under justice, justice, deterrence, and punishment.
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Thanks for the talkbacks. Thanks for the emails of Michael
d at iHeartMedia dot com on the sounds of the day.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
People who measured in online activism with a minor and puberty, Bob, were.
Speaker 11 (21:45):
Any of you in the media clearly missed the art
of the deal.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
It's going to work out, always revealing, often entertaining. Here
are your sounds of the day, and this is the
sound that got Jimmy Kimmel removed from air indefinitely by
Disney's ABC.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
We had some new lows over the weekend with.
Speaker 12 (22:01):
The Maggie Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who
murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them,
and with everything they can to score political points from
and in between the finger pointing.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
So I don't know what Jimmy Kimmel watches, I don't
know what Jimmy Kimmel reads, and I'm sure that's what
informed his ignorant position. But we had already and now
it is crystal clear. We knew Monday that we had
polling information that showed sixty percent of the American people
believe the lie. I had a listener, send me a meme.
(22:37):
Tell a lie often enough, and it becomes not truth,
that's scratched out.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
It becomes journalism. And that's the game they play.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Well, everyone that's set that narrative on the left has
that got its face, the inscriptions on the weapon, the
inscriptions on the ammunition, the confession on discord. But then
the letter and the text messages with his transgendered lover
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make crystal clear the intent and the motive, and also
makes crystal clear his parents appear to be maga, but
he clearly was not. But is the ignorant statement, the
insensitivity of the statement, the error of the statement, ultimately
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what did him in? There are a lot of people
that smell a rat here wasn't even a nostri del
journal a serious one. But I had told you in
the case of in the Emmys, just did it fantastically,
making Stephen Colbert into a martyr. Stephen Colberg got fired
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because he had no ratings, he had no revenue, cost
the network forty million dollars, and we all knew that
Kimmel wasn't going to get renewed. Kimmel knew he wasn't
going to get renewed. They smell a rat in taking
advantage of this and firing him, And then maybe Disney
in the far left will now use this later as
a talking point on the left that Kimmel himself is
(24:10):
a martyr of the tyrannical right and Trump there's Montell Williams.
She can't really cancel him, but he shows some of
the how to touch reaction from the left. This is
going to build first to Jimmy Kimmel Ignorant's statement, now
here's here's Montell Williams.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
I think we're we are we There are people who
are trying to pigeonhole this as a leftist thing and
a right thing. And what we're really talking about, hear me,
because I'm gonna throw you when I say this. We're
talking about a love torn child, a kid. This is
probably his first real relationship and somebody was disparaging the
person that he loved. He sat on that building for
(24:53):
thirty minutes before he took the shot. Why do you
wait until the first word trance came up?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Then he took the shot. You think I know he
waited until gun violence came up. Obviously, Montell's being criticized
for this. Who sees the love story in this other
than Montel Williams and an ABC reporter.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
The thing that.
Speaker 13 (25:12):
Stood out to me, David is those text messages. I
don't know if we have seen an alleged murder with
such specific text messages about the alleged murder weapon, where
it was hidden, how it was placed, what was.
Speaker 14 (25:26):
On it, but also it was very touching in a
way that I think.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Many of us didn't expect, A.
Speaker 14 (25:30):
Very intimate portrait into this relationship between the suspect's roommate
and the suspect himself, with him repeatedly calling his roommate,
who was transitioning, calling.
Speaker 13 (25:42):
Him my love and I want to protect you, my love.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So was this duality of.
Speaker 13 (25:45):
Someone who, the attorney said, not only jeopardized the life
of Charlie Kirk and the crowd, but was doing it
in front of children, which is one of the aggravating circumstances.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Of this case.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I mean, how about a touch are they with right
and wrong? With mental illness to arrangement? They see a
love story of this, Well, the new way you see
is Jasmin Crockett.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Here was Jasmin Crockett and her take.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Example number three powering. Oh wait a minute, I knew
it was going to do that. I should have known
that from the beginning. And now I don't know how
long let's go to this one.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
We'll just skip it.
Speaker 11 (26:41):
They're back to being having the orientation they had before.
Charlie must be demonized in death because he's close to Trump,
because that's all the only way they think is Mark,
Is it.
Speaker 13 (26:50):
That I'm a legit question like I don't know the answer,
Or is it that he's suddenly an enormous threat.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
You know, they don't know what a threat he is.
They know sot about them.
Speaker 11 (27:03):
I think this could change the entire midterms, do you Yeah?
I think this could be calvinizing the way the Dobbs
decision was. But they have no idea what he did.
They don't have any idea what his following is like.
And this weekend you saw the donations, you saw the
chapter request to be formed, You saw the vigils around
the country and around the world. They were barely covered. Again,
you just think if this were a democratic person of
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Charlie's place in the world close to it, like close
to Barack Obama, it would have led these vigils would
have led every news.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Cassie, I wonder how many planned to carry the actual
memorial service.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Wasn't a mention at the Emmys.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
When Erica Kirk the widow addressed the nation forty eight
hours after the assassination, only Fox carried it, Mark Calvary,
I mean, that's in a powerful statement. I don't think
they know. I think the more powerful question was who
on the left would be a Charlie Kirk. Does the
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left even have a Charlie Kirk. I don't even think
it's Barack Obama. Maybe Barack Obama in two thousand and six,
but certainly not today. Oh they don't know. I'm neces
with a certain many on the right had any idea.
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That's why my first response after the assassination and on
the air with you was, this is a really big deal. Parents,
get off the internet, get off your phone, and go
parent because you may not be aware of this. But
Charlie Kirk is like JFK to our kids. This is
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JFK Martin Luther King wrapped in won. This is a
huge death and a violent visual. You need to go parent.
But the left doesn't get it. Jimmy Kimmel didn't get it,
or he would have just avoided it. Have you noticed
we haven't done Friday with forty seven and we won't
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do it again. That's common sense, sensitivity favorites out of
the day, hands down. The left drilling cash Pattel and
the FBI to representative her ownA Hawaii and boy, did
she just step in something.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Listen. One question I had is, by the way, I
have to chime in.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Red loves the fact that this woman has zero effort
in doing her job. She clearly doesn't understand anything she's saying.
She's reading directly from things that her staff has prepared
for her. She can't even find the paragraph she's looking
at for the first time and reading for the first time.
But watch what comes out of her.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Mouth that you are not requiring.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
Applicants to be able to do a certain kind of
pull ups, which a lot of women cannot because of
physiological differences.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Are you requiring Wait, women can't do pull ups because
of physiological differences?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Did she really just say that these kinds of pull ups?
Speaker 15 (30:21):
We are requiring a physical program at BFTC at Quantico
because FBI agents carrying guns in the field have to
chase down bad guys and do really hard work. The
physical fitness standards of those agents.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
So are you these signs of pull ups?
Speaker 15 (30:36):
We are requiring everybody to pass the eighteen eleven standards
at BFTC. If you want to chase down a bad
guy and put him in handcuffs, you better be able
to do a pull up.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
The reason I ask is that there are concerns about
whether or not being able to do these kinds of
harsh pull ups is really required of FBI agents?
Speaker 15 (30:57):
Doing one pup is not harsh.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Now, never mind the answer from Cash Pattel. Did the
Democrat senator from Hawaii just below up the entire leftist
talking point on transgendered men in women's sports? It's not
fair to ask women to do pull ups due to
physiological differences from men? Did she just figure out what
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the definition of a woman is on accident? I'm going
to go ahead and I'll let you guys decide. Do
you want to hear Vice President Vance give a final
say on some of the nonsensical leftist reaction or Scott
Jennings either I know either's good, but you want some
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vice president?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
All right?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
We can't see right and wrong on both sides of
the political spectrum. We can't see what is etiquette and inappropriate.
We can't see the obvious clues of motive. Bottom line is,
we can't see evil and good because we abandoned good
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and evil for anything goes. How might the Vice president
put into perspective the chaotic reaction we have seen since
the Charlie Kirk assassination.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Well, one way you.
Speaker 16 (32:25):
Wrap your head around it is discussing evil. What kind
of person looks at a grieving young mother at two
beautiful young kids and feels a certain sense of celebration.
And I actually think, I don't know if it's a
couple people, I don't know if it's thousands of people,
But I would ask you, if you were the kind
of person who feels joy at the death of a
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grieving mother and grieving children, what bad decisions have led
you to where you are today, and why don't you
get back on the right path. I really believe that
there are people who recognize that the joy that they're feeling,
the celebration they're feeling at Charlie's death, is evidence of
evil within them, and they have to extinguish that evil.
I think that, and I've even seen some social media
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posts where people have said, you know, I was feeling
kind of good about this guy dying, and now I
realized that there was something wrong in me. That's another
way I think that God is speaking to people through
Charlie's death, as these incredibly evil people celebrating it, we're
seeing it. We're seeing that evil in the public eye
for all to see. But I also think people are
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turning away from that evil because they recognize that it
is so opposite of everything good and true and righteous
in the world.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
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Speaker 2 (34:50):
Corresponding, Roy O'Neil is joining us Rory with the latest
one the murder investigation into Charlie Kirk, as well as
the memorial service plan for Sunday.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
What is the latest.
Speaker 17 (35:00):
Yeah, still trying to get word of a defense attorney
being appointed to the suspect here. They're trying to find
someone in the public Defender's office with death penalty case experience.
That's a big threshold for them. Meanwhile, the plans are
coming together for what will be a massive memorial service
happening at the NFL Stadium there outside Phoenix. President Trump
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and Vice President Vance headlining the event, but there will
be lots of secretaries including Secretary Rubio RFK, Junior War
Secretary Pete Hegseth, dn I, Talca Gabbard, Tucker, Carlson, Don Jr.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
They say that list is growing.
Speaker 17 (35:34):
I'm also expecting some musical performers to be added to
this as well.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
It's going to be a full day of events on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Seven out of the ten line of successions. In one
place that's a little concerning.
Speaker 10 (35:49):
I need to pray for Jimmy Jimmy Kimmel, for someone
who was not elected to anything. Yes, yeah, Jimmy Kimmel
is out, and I suspect there'll be a tugger war
over that throughout the day, with the left saying this
is once again a victim of the far right crusade,
when in fact it was really a dumb thing to
say for a guy no one was watching and probably
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was going to be canceled by the end of the
year anyway, so that one who knows what will be
made of it.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
But Ory O'Neil, thanks for joining us, will do it
again tomorrow.
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minutes after the hour, Good morning, and welcome to Thursday, September,
the eighteenth year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I'm looking at pictures of Donald Trump with the Prime.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Minister, and he just has this look sitting in the
chair of a guy who really is needing to have
a round of golf. That's the look I get when
I go too many days without golfing, but I get
to golf today. The President has designated the far left
anti fascism movement ANTIFA a terrorist organization. He wants everyone
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donating to Antifa investigated major donors.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
That is. Disney has canceled.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
The Jimmy Kimmel's Show for the Foreseeable Future for comments
made about the assassination of Charlie Kirk. And we had
three police officers killed in York County, Pennsylvania. It was
a routine domestic violence arrest warrant and fire was opened
and three of those that served the community were killed.
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Our thoughts and prayers are with their family. And Week
three of the NFL kicks off tonight Thursday Night Football
and AFC East Showdown not the showdown it used to be.
Dolphins are really struggling. Our bills should take care of them.
But that's why you play the game and take everybody seriously.
We did get the Fed to cut the rate for
the first time in nine months, a quarter of a point.
We're going to get to what that might mean for
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the economy and for the market and ultimately for mortgage
rates and the housing crisis. But David Bonson, in addition
to being an economist and our money, is also a theologian.
And you know I asked this question of David Sanati earlier,
and I'm sorry, I'm so distracted, and I have you
I have to ask it of you. Here's where we
find ourselves in a culture that abandoned God, and by
(02:15):
doing so, absolute right and wrong, absolute truth for moral relativism,
woke emotion based on narratives not facts, and journalism is dead.
How is a culture like that going to be able
to solve a problem that requires moral certainty, critical.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Thinking, calm and unity.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
That's really the challenge we're at right now, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Well, of course it is. But the answer is that
it's not going to be able to solve it. It's going
to try to solve it the way so many on
the right are trying to solve it now, with right
wing populism, right wing authoritarianism, right wing wokeism, and so
we basically have to have a substitute God. And this
comes back back to the Garden of Eden, where the
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original sin was Adam and Eve deciding to play gods themselves.
And then we see it in the very first commandment,
that's all I know the gods before me. And we
see it in First Samuel when a civil magistrate in
Israel was instituted because the people wanted a king. When
you abandon God, you always are trying to substitute it
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with something else. It's what the definition of the word
idolatry is. So the problems you describe in our culture,
you rightly identify it comes from the vacuums that's been
created by us removing God and his ethical standards from
the public square.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
And then what we're doing.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Right now is a big game of whack a mole,
of trying to replace it with different things, none of
which are the real thing. They're all counterfeit.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I want to stop and talk to God about you
for a second. Thank you God for this brother and
bringing him into my life. I love you. Amen. All right.
So when I said earlier.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Careful, careful that you're cheering Jimmy Kimmel got fired, because
that's just cancel culture now, canceling wokeness the way it
used to cancel us for.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Not being woke. That's more of the problem, not the solution.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And I suspect a lot of my listeners like, why
aren't you celebrating Jimmy Kimmel getting fired? Well, I didn't
watch him before, and I'm not going to watch him
now that he's gone obviously, But but you bring up
something My mother used to say it this way a man.
This was my first introduction into truth. A man never
leaves his wife unless he's got another woman. That was
the old Italian way of looking at it. The truth
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is we never abandon something without replacing it. That's why
the Bible talks so much about idolatry, and we ignore
all of that talk so much, and we certainly ignore
the fact that we made ourselves the idol.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
That's an important distinction.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
And if God is still the solution for all those
that claim God as we do that are listening, you're
called love your enemies, You're called to love your neighbor,
you're called to forgive. In other words, it's we're not
playing the game right yet, are we?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
No?
Speaker 5 (05:11):
No, And then I guess the question becomes for people
like you and me, what is the way in which
the culture can get back to a place of playing
the game right? And and you know, we're naturally impatient
because if you look at the time period it took
for God to be removed from the public square, for
the church to decide that religion was a private matter,
(05:35):
and we could stop proclaiming the truth claims of Christianity
and and just sort of be content to have a
little private religion, you know, in our bedrooms. If that,
you know, it took years and years, decades and decades.
I think that we need revival. I think we need reformation.
(05:55):
I think we need repentance. But I don't think that
those things come in in elections. Michael, I don't think
they come I don't think they come from canceling Jimmy Kimmel,
I don't think. You know, there's certain things along the
way that you want to happen, and and just you know,
I'm going to celebrate tax cuts, and I'm going to
celebrate you know, Trump getting rid of DEI in the
military and stuff like that, Like there's going to be victories.
(06:17):
But my point is that the big picture comes from
Christian education. It comes from faithful churches, It comes from
families staying together, It comes from you know, basic obedience
in the public square. And and then that kind of
recipe for a good life for individuals becomes the recipe
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for a good life for society. The micro morphs into
the macro. This is an economic principle. There's a school
of thought and economics. Michael that says, well, there's microeconomic clause,
but then there's macroeconomic pause that are totally different. As
if what's good sauce for the goose is not sauce
for a bunch of bees, it's a ridiculous idea. And
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what is the recipe for good life? It's us being married,
being in a fellowship with his spouse, being supported by
people who love us unconditionally, having jobs and careers where
we produce goods and services to meet the needs of humanity,
where our hopes and dreams are fulfilled, that those things work,
and then and then it becomes infectious across society. So,
(07:22):
Michael Jackson here, I was.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Just gonna say, and by the way, everything you just
expoused is what Charlie Kirk stood for and preached.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
It's being lost.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Well, he really did and and and he did it,
I think far more eloquently, even in the last year
or two of his life, as he himself had children,
as he himself was now a married man. I've watched
the guy mature before my very eyes. And when I
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say mature, he died at thirty one. Okay, I can't
even comprehend what I was at thirty one, and I
don't want to even think about it because I believe,
you know, I made a comment on a social media
post over the weekend that every single thing I've done
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in my life that I can look back on and
be proud of or hopeful about or reflect on that matters.
Every bit of it happened after I was thirty one
years old.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I led a pretty remarkable teenage life and then I
had the most awful twenties where I did everything stupid,
and it was right about thirty one and by thirty
three that I finally grew up, got it together, and
I mean grew up in christ. So your analogy strikes
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me right at home, and there's no I know, people
are always you know, this guy was going to be
president of the United States someday, I don't know. You
might have been Billy Graham someday. I don't know what
he would have been. I just would have loved to
have seen it, and now we won't. I used to
sign all my books with Second Chronicle seven fourteen, and
many people had any idea what that was. It's one
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time in the Bible, specifically where God addresses a nation
that gets so lost, and the call was, if my
people will repent, confess their sins, humble themselves and pray.
That's always a difficult one. It is a path for
how awakening can be created. Only God can heal a land,
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especially when it's a nation under God. But what would
precipitate it? And it does kind of suggest that maybe
the problem begins in the church.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Well, it certainly does, and I think that there is
a precedent for this as we see the way you
know that Paul went about establishing the early Church. You know,
I'm all of the above guy. I believe in something
that the late Abraham hyper referred to as spear sovereignty.
That there is a sphere for the state with a
jurisdic it has, which is primarily justice. There's a sphere
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for the church. There's a sphere for the family. And
we need to recognize all three of the silos, what
their legitimacy is, what their job is, as distinct from
one another. But all are important and all are under
the wordship of Christ. And so all of the above
I want to see brought you into subjection to Christ.
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And over time, I really hope that we will see
this great improvement in a society around us. But the
idea that the church will be unfaithful and the rest
of the culture will come around strikes me as ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
David Bonson is not only an economist and the money was,
He's also a theologian. I feel like we needed theologian
more today than we need an economist, although I'm going
to get to the interest rate cuts real quickly. So
in nineteen sixty eight, which feels very much like today,
the assassinations, the violence, we had the hippie movement turned
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to the Jesus movement, which created a cultural awakening and
a spiritual revival. At the same time, we had Richard
Nixon refusing to talk to the extreme right or the left,
saying it's being greatly overrepresented visually in a television era.
I'm going to talk to the majority of the American
people who are sensible and in the center. These are
all the things that are not happening now. Is there
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a reason to be hopeful that maybe, rather than being
the first shot of a civil war down the road,
that this could be a shot that is going to
create an awakening and a revival. Does this event have
that capability.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Well, my answer is that yes, it has that capability,
but obviously I wouldn't make a prediction as to where
it would go. There's so many differences in terms of
where the culture is right now. And then also I think,
you know, just the leadership on top. What I believe
we need is revival, reformation, not retribution. But we also
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need justice and ethics. You know, I want this guy
who did it to get the death penalty. I don't
want people who agree with my politics to say, now
it's our turn to do it, or this means war.
I want the rhetoric to be toned down. I want
their reunifying moment. And yet at the same time, I
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am very sympathetic to the argument that it's hard to
get unity. On the other side has certain people celebrating death,
so you know, there is no communion of light with darkness.
But I don't think it's right versus left. I don't
think it's maga versus woke. I think our divides are
spiritual and what we need is a remnant of faithful
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Christians that believe in freedom, believe in virtue that will
be faithful presence and work very, very hard there's a
lot to do. Is this moment going to have an
impact it is?
Speaker 7 (12:59):
What will it be?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I don't know, but I will.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Say this, there's lessons from history, But boy, is it
ever true that history sometimes rhymes but very rarely repeats.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
David Boonsen quarter point cut first and nine months. That's
kind of exactly what was expected. I didn't expect the
market to react very much because it was built into
the cake. I don't know what kind of an economic
response there will be, and I don't know if this
will trickle to mortgage rates coming down, which is the
ultimate crisis we've been trying as all of the housing crisis.
But what do you make of this cut and really
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the notion of more cuts.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
To come, Well, you're right, just that was one hundred
percent expected, And then what they did do is validate
the market suspicion that two more cuts were coming this year,
which is now getting close to one hundred percent. So
we will end up being down seventy five basis points
by the.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
End of the year from where we were.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Going into yesterday. It's doubtful we'll get a full point,
but then going into next year, I think it's like
get more well, a lot of people were missing. The
reason the market didn't go up yesterday in the news
is it was already one hundred percent known. And the
fact of the matter is that the reason the FED
is cutting is that they see the economy weakening. And
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so if you have a strong economy at a FED
cutting that, you know, risk assets can just run to
the moon. That's what happened in the late nineties of
green Span. But when you have the FED cutting because
it's fighting another force, which is a weakening jobs market,
that's a very tricky predicament. And so uh, there's.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
A tug of war going on.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
I would argue that the FED was late. You brought
up mortgage rates. The thirty year mortgage rate was down
sixty basis points in the last four weeks, so the
mortgage market started pricing in some cuts well before the
FED did it. The problem is when you go from
seven to six point three six point four, you know,
you still just have a very long ways to go.
(14:57):
And you did get the largest amount of we finances
last week that we've seen in a while, but that's
actually people who had done a mortgage at seven and
a half that were redoing it.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
That's that's people dealing with debt and helocks. That's not
people freeing up the market. Right that inventory, I think
that number is probably still four and a half or
five percent.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
We're a year or more or a long way away
from that.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Hey, listen, I want my listeners to know you never
know what we're going to talk about before you come
on the air.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Well, you always come through.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
You're a remarkable brother, you're a remarkable friend, and you're
a remarkable economist. But today we needed the theologian. Thank
you so much. I appreciate you so much, David Bonson
more than you'll ever know.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Thank you, brother.
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as your Morning Show continues. The big story Disney has
dumped Jimmy Kimmel's show, taking him off the year for
the foreseeable future. We don't know if this is a
permanent firing. These things tend to go that way, and
there were all indications they weren't going to renew him anyway.
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At the end of the year. President Trump has designated
Antifa as a terrorist organization wants all those that have
been donating to them to be investigated.
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I want to make a comment about Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 8 (17:30):
I think one of the biggest mistakes of his adult
life was not staying closer friends with Adam Carolla. Maybe
if he had a little more perspective on the world,
he wouldn't find himself in this spot.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Well, I think you know, I always watch Graham Norton
on the BBC in England, and he has often the
same stars that we have, but it's a completely different
show and it's designed to be entertaining. It's fun, it's funny,
it's on predicted deal. It's what late night used to be.
(18:03):
We've come a long way from Johnny Carson. That's the
big mistake here that late night talk shows have become
radicalized by the far left, just like the shooter. I
wonder that led ultimately to Jimmy Kimmel's demise, But that
is a various stute observation. Roger I never thought about
is distancing himself from Adam and Center and being centered.
(18:28):
I would think it's deb but I guess her handle
is Debo Deebo in Nashville.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
The Kimmel thing is a head scratcher, for sure.
Speaker 9 (18:35):
I think it's just another way to divide us. I mean,
in reality, the conservative bass or whatever, if you want
to pick sides, probably would have never even heard or
seen what he said because nobody watches his show, and
instead of letting his contract run out.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
They just.
Speaker 9 (18:55):
Decided to do this, and now it's all over the media. Anyway,
just another way to divide.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
My take.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Oh yeah, God, I love my listeners. You guys are
so smart. What you're really describing as the matrix? So
the right side, we don't watch them anyway. We were't
going to watch him if he stayed, and we weren't
watching when he said it. The left, the same left
that informed him to make such an ignorant comment. They're
going to feel like victims now. I mean, I just
watched the Emmys make a victim out of Stephen Colbert.
(19:21):
Stephen Colbert got canceled because he lost forty million dollars
and no one was watching. Stephen Colbert had less of
an audience than I had in Tells, Oklahoma, doing afternoons
on KRMG in nineteen ninety two. That's why he got fired.
That's why Jimmy Kimmel wasn't going to be renewed. But
they will turn this into Donald Trump got him fired,
(19:44):
and you won't be able to stop it because the
left will be in their bubble reading and watching the
same things and repeating it. That's why I said, you're
not solving anything. To solve the matrix. Steve's in Oklahoma.
Speaker 10 (19:56):
City Tall, the Trump haters online everywhere.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I just tell them, Hey, the mortgage rates you're talking
about these days, mine's less than half of that.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I did a refine during Trump version one. So carry on, my.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Friend, gloating. Are you well, I'm at two point. You
don't want to know, Youngstown, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Michael, isn't the death comalvie of sin? Isn't death up
to God? Not up to man?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Well, Jesus himself was put to death through capital punishment.
Oh that's different. He was God. He had to be
sacrificed the perfect life. There would be no way of
a toment Okay. He was also between two thieves and
as one was mocking him, the other said, look, we
did stuff. This guy's done nothing, and Jesus said you'll
(20:49):
be with me today in paradise, but didn't speak against
capital punishment. No, the basic difference is, and Charlie talked
about this a lot in the abortion argument. The left
will always try to make that an inconsistent and see,
how can you be for the life of the unborn
and also be for capital punishment because the unborn is
innocent and had a right to life, liberty, and a
pursuit of happiness. It was a sacred creation of God
(21:10):
that had done nothing wrong. Someone facing capital punishment has
done something egregiously wrong. That's the difference. That's not murder.
Murder is taking a life you had no right to take.
Capital punishment would fall under justice, justice, deterrence, and punishment.
(21:31):
Thanks for the talkbacks. Thanks for the emails of Michael
d at iHeartMedia dot com on the sounds of the day.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
People who measured in online activism with a minor and puberty, Bob, were.
Speaker 11 (21:45):
Any of you in the media clearly missed the art
of the deal.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
It's going to work out, always revealing, often entertaining. Here
are your sounds of the day, and this is the
sound that got Jimmy Kimmel removed from air indefinitely by
Disney's ABC.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
We had some new lows over the weekend with.
Speaker 12 (22:01):
The Maggie Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who
murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them,
and with everything they can to score political points from
and in between the finger pointing.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
So I don't know what Jimmy Kimmel watches, I don't
know what Jimmy Kimmel reads, and I'm sure that's what
informed his ignorant position. But we had already and now
it is crystal clear. We knew Monday that we had
polling information that showed sixty percent of the American people
believe the lie. I had a listener, send me a meme.
(22:37):
Tell a lie often enough, and it becomes not truth,
that's scratched out.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
It becomes journalism. And that's the game they play.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Well, everyone that's set that narrative on the left has
that got its face, the inscriptions on the weapon, the
inscriptions on the ammunition, the confession on discord. But then
the letter and the text messages with his transgendered lover
(23:07):
make crystal clear the intent and the motive, and also
makes crystal clear his parents appear to be maga, but
he clearly was not. But is the ignorant statement, the
insensitivity of the statement, the error of the statement, ultimately
(23:27):
what did him in? There are a lot of people
that smell a rat here wasn't even a nostri del
journal a serious one. But I had told you in
the case of in the Emmys, just did it fantastically,
making Stephen Colbert into a martyr. Stephen Colberg got fired
(23:50):
because he had no ratings, he had no revenue, cost
the network forty million dollars, and we all knew that
Kimmel wasn't going to get renewed. Kimmel knew he wasn't
going to get renewed. They smell a rat in taking
advantage of this and firing him, And then maybe Disney
in the far left will now use this later as
a talking point on the left that Kimmel himself is
(24:10):
a martyr of the tyrannical right and Trump there's Montell Williams.
She can't really cancel him, but he shows some of
the how to touch reaction from the left. This is
going to build first to Jimmy Kimmel Ignorant's statement, now
here's here's Montell Williams.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
I think we're we are we There are people who
are trying to pigeonhole this as a leftist thing and
a right thing. And what we're really talking about, hear me,
because I'm gonna throw you when I say this. We're
talking about a love torn child, a kid. This is
probably his first real relationship and somebody was disparaging the
person that he loved. He sat on that building for
(24:53):
thirty minutes before he took the shot. Why do you
wait until the first word trance came up?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Then he took the shot. You think I know he
waited until gun violence came up. Obviously, Montell's being criticized
for this. Who sees the love story in this other
than Montel Williams and an ABC reporter.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
The thing that.
Speaker 13 (25:12):
Stood out to me, David is those text messages. I
don't know if we have seen an alleged murder with
such specific text messages about the alleged murder weapon, where
it was hidden, how it was placed, what was.
Speaker 14 (25:26):
On it, but also it was very touching in a
way that I think.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Many of us didn't expect, A.
Speaker 14 (25:30):
Very intimate portrait into this relationship between the suspect's roommate
and the suspect himself, with him repeatedly calling his roommate,
who was transitioning, calling.
Speaker 13 (25:42):
Him my love and I want to protect you, my love.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So was this duality of.
Speaker 13 (25:45):
Someone who, the attorney said, not only jeopardized the life
of Charlie Kirk and the crowd, but was doing it
in front of children, which is one of the aggravating circumstances.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Of this case.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I mean, how about a touch are they with right
and wrong? With mental illness to arrangement? They see a
love story of this, Well, the new way you see
is Jasmin Crockett.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Here was Jasmin Crockett and her take.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Example number three powering. Oh wait a minute, I knew
it was going to do that. I should have known
that from the beginning. And now I don't know how
long let's go to this one.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
We'll just skip it.
Speaker 11 (26:41):
They're back to being having the orientation they had before.
Charlie must be demonized in death because he's close to Trump,
because that's all the only way they think is Mark,
Is it.
Speaker 13 (26:50):
That I'm a legit question like I don't know the answer,
Or is it that he's suddenly an enormous threat.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
You know, they don't know what a threat he is.
They know sot about them.
Speaker 11 (27:03):
I think this could change the entire midterms, do you Yeah?
I think this could be calvinizing the way the Dobbs
decision was. But they have no idea what he did.
They don't have any idea what his following is like.
And this weekend you saw the donations, you saw the
chapter request to be formed, You saw the vigils around
the country and around the world. They were barely covered. Again,
you just think if this were a democratic person of
(27:25):
Charlie's place in the world close to it, like close
to Barack Obama, it would have led these vigils would
have led every news.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Cassie, I wonder how many planned to carry the actual
memorial service.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Wasn't a mention at the Emmys.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
When Erica Kirk the widow addressed the nation forty eight
hours after the assassination, only Fox carried it, Mark Calvary,
I mean, that's in a powerful statement. I don't think
they know. I think the more powerful question was who
on the left would be a Charlie Kirk. Does the
(28:00):
left even have a Charlie Kirk. I don't even think
it's Barack Obama. Maybe Barack Obama in two thousand and six,
but certainly not today. Oh they don't know. I'm neces
with a certain many on the right had any idea.
(28:25):
That's why my first response after the assassination and on
the air with you was, this is a really big deal. Parents,
get off the internet, get off your phone, and go
parent because you may not be aware of this. But
Charlie Kirk is like JFK to our kids. This is
(28:47):
JFK Martin Luther King wrapped in won. This is a
huge death and a violent visual. You need to go parent.
But the left doesn't get it. Jimmy Kimmel didn't get it,
or he would have just avoided it. Have you noticed
we haven't done Friday with forty seven and we won't
(29:08):
do it again. That's common sense, sensitivity favorites out of
the day, hands down. The left drilling cash Pattel and
the FBI to representative her ownA Hawaii and boy, did
she just step in something.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Listen. One question I had is, by the way, I
have to chime in.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Red loves the fact that this woman has zero effort
in doing her job. She clearly doesn't understand anything she's saying.
She's reading directly from things that her staff has prepared
for her. She can't even find the paragraph she's looking
at for the first time and reading for the first time.
But watch what comes out of her.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Mouth that you are not requiring.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
Applicants to be able to do a certain kind of
pull ups, which a lot of women cannot because of
physiological differences.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Are you requiring Wait, women can't do pull ups because
of physiological differences?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Did she really just say that these kinds of pull ups?
Speaker 15 (30:21):
We are requiring a physical program at BFTC at Quantico
because FBI agents carrying guns in the field have to
chase down bad guys and do really hard work. The
physical fitness standards of those agents.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
So are you these signs of pull ups?
Speaker 15 (30:36):
We are requiring everybody to pass the eighteen eleven standards
at BFTC. If you want to chase down a bad
guy and put him in handcuffs, you better be able
to do a pull up.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
The reason I ask is that there are concerns about
whether or not being able to do these kinds of
harsh pull ups is really required of FBI agents?
Speaker 15 (30:57):
Doing one pup is not harsh.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Now, never mind the answer from Cash Pattel. Did the
Democrat senator from Hawaii just below up the entire leftist
talking point on transgendered men in women's sports? It's not
fair to ask women to do pull ups due to
physiological differences from men? Did she just figure out what
(31:23):
the definition of a woman is on accident? I'm going
to go ahead and I'll let you guys decide. Do
you want to hear Vice President Vance give a final
say on some of the nonsensical leftist reaction or Scott
Jennings either I know either's good, but you want some
(31:47):
vice president?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
All right?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
We can't see right and wrong on both sides of
the political spectrum. We can't see what is etiquette and inappropriate.
We can't see the obvious clues of motive. Bottom line is,
we can't see evil and good because we abandoned good
(32:12):
and evil for anything goes. How might the Vice president
put into perspective the chaotic reaction we have seen since
the Charlie Kirk assassination.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Well, one way you.
Speaker 16 (32:25):
Wrap your head around it is discussing evil. What kind
of person looks at a grieving young mother at two
beautiful young kids and feels a certain sense of celebration.
And I actually think, I don't know if it's a
couple people, I don't know if it's thousands of people,
But I would ask you, if you were the kind
of person who feels joy at the death of a
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grieving mother and grieving children, what bad decisions have led
you to where you are today, and why don't you
get back on the right path. I really believe that
there are people who recognize that the joy that they're feeling,
the celebration they're feeling at Charlie's death, is evidence of
evil within them, and they have to extinguish that evil.
I think that, and I've even seen some social media
(33:06):
posts where people have said, you know, I was feeling
kind of good about this guy dying, and now I
realized that there was something wrong in me. That's another
way I think that God is speaking to people through
Charlie's death, as these incredibly evil people celebrating it, we're
seeing it. We're seeing that evil in the public eye
for all to see. But I also think people are
(33:27):
turning away from that evil because they recognize that it
is so opposite of everything good and true and righteous
in the world.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Calm, calm and wise words from the Vice President, and
that your sounds the day for this Thursday, September the eighteenth.
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It's your Morning Show with Michael del Journo.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Your Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Corresponding, Roy O'Neil is joining us Rory with the latest
one the murder investigation into Charlie Kirk, as well as
the memorial service plan for Sunday.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
What is the latest.
Speaker 17 (35:00):
Yeah, still trying to get word of a defense attorney
being appointed to the suspect here. They're trying to find
someone in the public Defender's office with death penalty case experience.
That's a big threshold for them. Meanwhile, the plans are
coming together for what will be a massive memorial service
happening at the NFL Stadium there outside Phoenix. President Trump
(35:20):
and Vice President Vance headlining the event, but there will
be lots of secretaries including Secretary Rubio RFK, Junior War
Secretary Pete Hegseth, dn I, Talca Gabbard, Tucker, Carlson, Don Jr.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
They say that list is growing.
Speaker 17 (35:34):
I'm also expecting some musical performers to be added to
this as well.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
It's going to be a full day of events on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Seven out of the ten line of successions. In one
place that's a little concerning.
Speaker 10 (35:49):
I need to pray for Jimmy Jimmy Kimmel, for someone
who was not elected to anything. Yes, yeah, Jimmy Kimmel
is out, and I suspect there'll be a tugger war
over that throughout the day, with the left saying this
is once again a victim of the far right crusade,
when in fact it was really a dumb thing to
say for a guy no one was watching and probably
(36:11):
was going to be canceled by the end of the
year anyway, so that one who knows what will be
made of it.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
But Ory O'Neil, thanks for joining us, will do it
again tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
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