October 3, 2025 • 34 mins
Trump vows 'full force' as he plans to send troops to Portland amid anti-ICE protests. Heritage Foundation’s Simon Hankinson, a legal and immigration specialist, will join us to discuss the pros and cons of this enforcement.
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Well, Trump vow's full force as he plans to send
troops to Portland amid the anti ice protests. At the
Heritage Foundation, Simon Hankinson is a legal and immigration specialist
and he's joining us just to kind of talk about, well,
the pros and cons of that. There could be a
lot of pros today, a safer Portland, like a safe
for DC, but there could be cons down the road.
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And I think anytime we have this conversation, Simon, DC
was different because it's under the control of Congress, as
opposed to Portland, Chicago, or other cities the President may
have in mind. The first foremost question is is it
legal to use our military to secure our cities?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
And good morning, Simon, Good morning. Well yes, I mean
it's legal.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
To use our military to secure federal facilities and protect
federal agents and authorities from from you know, rioters, and
in particular in conditions where cities and states aren't willing
to do it. There's a line that can be crossed.
They're not allowed to enforce civil law. They're not allowed
to do the job of police, basically under the Pasi
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Commatatus Act. And that's why I believe that your judge
ruled against the administration for some of the things they
did in Los Angeles, but not all. So you know,
they have to be careful to be within those lines.
But in a place like Portland, where you have a
federal facility that's been under siege for you know, weeks,
it seems like an appropriate use of federal force to me.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
But the short answer would be keep it to around
that ICE facility.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Well, not just the ices, so I mean, there are
other federal facilities. In most port cities. There are multiple
federal facilities, and you know there are federal agents who
go about their business from not just icepit, other parts
of DHS and DEA and FBI and so on.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
So I would hope, and we don't apparently, but I
would hope everybody in America would realize the number one
priority of every municipal, every county, every state, even the
federal government is the safety and protection of its people.
We're either going to be a culture of law and order,
we're going to be chaos and anarchy. It has kind
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of simon. I mean, I like to call balls and
strikes and be fair. But one side, I remember just
a couple of convention conventions ago was conditioning us for
what I think was a plan for insurrection that they
called off when Biden surprisingly won. But they were calling
good trouble, disobedience, rioting, burning cop cars, destroying businesses, lootings.
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One side doesn't seem to be interested in law enforcement.
In fact, they've even turned the table. The cops are
the bad guys. The bad guys are actually the good
guys and the victims. How on earth did this become
a partisan political issue.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Yeah, that one surprises me too, because we can argue
about taxes, we can argue about social issues, you know,
gender ideology, whatever.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
But at the end of the day.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
When there are laws passed and they're on the books,
as you say, the job of local authorities, job number
one is public safety. And in Portland, in Minneapolis and
other big cities, they have basically abandoned that job. You
had one hundred days of riots in Portland where every
single night they were out there destroying property, you know,
making so much noise. People couldn't sleep, normal people couldn't
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go about their lives. And it wasn't about them and
their free speech rights and their right to protest. Nobody's
arguing about that. It was them stopping people going to work.
It was them stopping people from from you know, enjoying
the quiet life that they had a right to enjoy.
So I do not understand why some on the left,
and it's not all, but there's some politicians on the left,
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particularly in very, very blue cities, who simply do not
want to enforce laws, and they are in favor of
abolishing the criminal justice.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
System and constitutionally, you know, you would think the voters.
I mean, no one really wants to live. It's amazing
I say that, But as I say, there's a lot
of people in Chicago just turn a blind eye to it.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
You know, that's just the way it is.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
And when I go to these certain areas, it happens,
you know, but no one wants to live where it's unsafe.
Nobody wants to raise their children where it's unsafe. And
then the school where it's unsafe, nobody wants to put
their business places that are unsafe. So I think constitutionally,
the notion was always well, the voters, you know, if
suddenly this became a partisan issue, they would just vote
them out and vote in people who do prioritize the
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right things of government. But you know, it's us versus them,
shirts and skins blue versus red. That's kind of We
got a new poll that's out today saying most voters
don't think the divisions in this country can be overcome.
I guess one of my concerns is every day I
go to bed trying to make sure we're not an
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inch closer to civil war. I mean, that's the common
I've been reduced to that anything after that is a victory.
But these these differences are big, and these states versus states,
and people versus people. It's looking a lot more like
eighteen fifty eight than twenty twenty five or even nineteen
sixty eight. How concerning is this play to what could
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potentially lead to civil war?
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Well, I sure hope it doesn't get that far, But
you're right, there are cities where it's essentially just a
battle between.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
You know, the left and the far left.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
San Francisco, for example, they had this completely insane prosecutor,
Chessa Buden, who just didn't believe in prosecuting criminals. I mean,
you know, his parents were both weather underground terarists upon
it naturally and spend a lot of time with Hugo
Chavez in Venezuela. Finally, the people San Francisco even threw
him out, and they've just elected a mayor who is
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a Democrat, but one who believes in law enforcement. So
I think that's what's going to have to happen, is
that they're going to have to be enough politicians on
the Democratic side who realized that public safety, law and
order is not a left right thing. It is a
bipartisan thing that everybody wants and then can get elected.
But unfortunately, like in New York Chicago, we for the
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moment are seeing mayors who are willing to burn the
place down rather than have any federal assistance, and seem
to put politics ahead of the public safety and economic
prosperity of their own cities.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Sure is nice to meet you.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Closing moments with Simon Hankinson with the Heritage Foundation, I
was doing an interview. Oh my gosh, this made me
feel old. Probably thirty three years ago. That's how long
we've been going around in this circle over illegal immigration,
and we haven't even gotten to they failed immigration policies
of this country. But you know, I once asked a
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member of Congress, you know, I said, yeah, why can't
we find common ground on this? I mean, we all
lock our doors at night. That doesn't mean we hate
everybody outside. It means we love everybody inside. I mean,
it's just it's an issue of sovereignty. It's an issue
of national security, it's an issue of wisdom, national financial security.
He looked, he just interrupted me and said, when it
comes to the immigration issue, we don't make any progress
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because the left loves the free votes and the right
loves the cheaper labor. If we progressed any because the
stakes are getting higher and higher, and the crime is
getting worse and worse. And now the presidents tell us
that he's in an all out military war with drug
car tells, I mean, we've been in a drug war
for a while. It's about time we fight him back
with our military. But if we come any further in
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that right likes the cheaper labor, left likes the votes.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
No, and that's a really good summary of where things
were thirty years ago and where they are are now.
The one difference is, and I write about this in
my book, the Ten Woke Commandments you must not obey.
Chapter one is you shall have no border. That's the
difference is that now on the left you have people
who actually believe there should be no borders, that we
should have a globalist government, and that people have a
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right to migrate anywhere they want to go, and that
any attempt to keep somebody out of a developed country
is racist, is oppressive. So that's the biggest difference thirty
years ago, Clinton Carter more than thirty years But Democrats, yeah,
Democrats supported enforcing immigration law. They wanted to change it.
Maybe we argued over the details. How many people, you know,
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what are the conditions, how long should they be allowed
to stay? But you never had a president who said,
forget it, I'm just going to open the borders untill
Joe Biden. Why that happened. I try to make sense
of it in my book, but it's a mystery to
me because, as you say, it fundamentally undermines the basis
of our country. In every country, if you don't have
a distinction between people who are citizens and belong in
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people who are alien and foreigners, and who don't belong
unless we allow them, unless we accept them and invite them.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I know you did ten give us your top three
woke commandments that must never be obeyed.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Well, you shall have no borders was number one in
the book. You shall not know what is a man,
and you shall not know what is a woman. Those
are chapters four and five, And I give him the
whole gender ideology thing we've been told. You must accept.
If someone says they are, all of a sudden of
the opposite sex, they are, and they have a right
to go wherever those people go. They can go to
opposite sex changing rooms, prisons.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
That they have to go to jail.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
You know, schools compete in sports, all the rest of it.
And the last chapters you will you shall take no
responsibility for your success or failure. So everything that happens
to you is the result of you know, systems and
oppression and these magical forces. You know, it's not your
fault that you can't find a job, or that you
stored lower on the test, or you know you weigh
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five hundred pounds. Those are all things that happened to you.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
You abandon God, you abandon way, truth and life. And
you always replace something when you abandon it, and we
replace it with moral relativism. It is a far left tool.
There's a national, international, and global effort to de develop
and develop and govern at a global level. I mean,
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there's a lot of things, but I really think at
the root of it was it was abandoning the ability
to self governed by abandoning a God that would give
us the ability to self govern. So how do we
get out of this mess, Simon, not just through not
obeying those woke commands, but how do we ultimately solve
this And to go back to that piece of research,
get to where the majority of Americans say we can
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overcome our divisions God to involve God, right, that was
our first step in the wrong direction, abandoning him.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Well, I think we do need guidance from outside mankind.
You know, we don't seem to be able to come
up with rules to live by without some kind of
divine intervention. But you know, we're a pluralistic, religiously society.
Even on the Christian side, we're split into you know,
who knows how many denominations and people who differ on
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various points. So we need to come back to the
things I think the first five words of the book,
or whatsoever things are true. Let's think on those things.
Let's find what we actually agree on. We should believe
that families are the basis of society. We should believe
that we should not kill, we should not injure our neighbors.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
That we should work hard.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
These are basic things that we could probably agree on
and we can build around that.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
But then you had the social media, and you know,
I compare eighteen fifty eight to today, and I say, well,
we couldn't stop the Civil War in eighteen fifty eight
and they didn't even have the Internet feeding the flames
of dividing. But our finding fathers often talked about self
evident truth. I don't know that self evident truth exists.
I think your book could help them find ten will
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commandments you should never obey. I think it's a must read.
I think you're a must to come back as often
as you'd like. Simon Hankinson with the Heritage Foundation, thank
you for your book, and thank you for your time today.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Thank you so much for having me.
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Is tim stand a lot of stuff on social media
about we're at war, getting ready to go to war.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
What's the truth?
Speaker 9 (17:44):
Are we getting ready to go to war or we
are ready at war with Venezuela?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Like what's going on?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Well, your first mistake is take is war with ignorance
and being on social media. We're in a proxy war
with Russia for sure, in the support of Ukraine. We're
in a proxy war with Iran and fighting terrorism in
the Middle East. And the President of the United States
is telling Congress the US is in a formal armed conflict,
which by definition wouldn't be a war, but an armed
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conflict with drug car tells if that's the one you're
referring to, not at war, although there's been a war
on drugs that we need to finally get serious about.
This presidency is and he's informed Congress we're in an
armed conflict with them. John Decker is our White House correspondent.
Keep those talkbacks coming, By the way, The Senate is
expected to take a vote today on whether to reopen
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the government one of the odds. John Decker has covered
every government shutdown since Bill Clinton, and yesterday we talked
about how he's getting inside information from a young little
operative named George Stepanopholis who's now still an.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Operative on ABC.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
And now we think we're getting a letter from the
President to congratulate you on thirty years of White House service.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
That's exactly right. I'm so over the moon about that.
Speaker 10 (19:03):
That's pretty cool, the President of the United States doing that.
And I'll share that with you when I receive that.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
And why don't you get me something even an auto
pen version.
Speaker 10 (19:16):
No, this is going to be the real deal, signed
by his hand himself, not auto ben So no, I'm
really happy about that. And a big celebration regarding that
milestone at the end of this month at the Swedish
Embassy here in Washington, DC.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
So looking forward to that as well. Well, it's the
last two years that matter the most. That's when I
finally got to meet you. You're a big part of
this show. I consider you a very very good at
your job and a very dear friend. So I'm congratulating
you formally.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Now.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
That is a big, big deal, all right, the shutdown.
Nobody thinks this is lasting more than a week or two.
Any chance to could end today.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
I don't think so.
Speaker 10 (19:56):
I think that you know, lawmakers on the Senate side,
that's where i'll the action is.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
They need sixty votes.
Speaker 10 (20:01):
They need to have the weekend to moul things over.
In terms of next step, I don't think when that
vote takes place, which will be around one thirty Eastern
time this afternoon, it will lead to more Democratic senators
coming on board to support that continuing resolution. But I
still do believe that this will be a short shutdown.
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I do believe that by this time next week it
should be over.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
I hope I'm right.
Speaker 10 (20:26):
As I pointed out yesterday, there are federal workers that
are not getting paid that impacts their families. There are
members of the military that are not getting paid after
their check that they receive from mid October, and they
serve our country in uniform. They protect and secure our country,
and that's just not right as it relates to their predicament.
Right now, because of this political fight between Democrats and Republicans.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I can never make a simple point because I almost
have to explain all the lies or nuances of lies
and internet chaos. This is a clean resolution. It's no difference.
It's just continuing what they all agreed on back in March.
So there are about ten Democrats in all that approved
the one in March, six of which don't face a reelection.
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That's why I say they'll cave. And their constituents aren't
as radical left as some of the others, or have
the concerns of being targeted. But I thought AOC made
it very clear that if anybody wants to talk about this,
they can come directly to her office. That was their
way of saying, I'm not targeting Chuckie Schumer. I'm going
to run for president. But I digress. It is a
clean bill. There are ten that are ready to cave,
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ten of which voted for the exact same bill back
in March.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
I give it a week tops. Yeah, I hope you're right.
Speaker 10 (21:43):
You know that's the optimism also expressed by Vice President
jd Vance when he came to the briefing room earlier
this week on Wednesday. You know, I've covered so many
of these over the years, you get a feel for things,
and to me, a protracted shutdown politically doesn't make sense.
It just doesn't make sense for Democrats, and it certainly
doesn't make sense for Republicans. The midterms are next year,
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and Republicans want to hold on to the House and Senate.
Democrats want to take over the House and the Senate,
and it just doesn't make sense to go about keeping
the government closed if you're trying to do those two.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Things, but to create the false narrative to take your
stand for your radical left base and show them that
you're a fight fight fight fighter that can be resurfaced
in a midterm because you know, we're staring at the holidays, John,
and once they start, you blink, you're right in midterm
campaign season. So the question really becomes how much political
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theater does the left need before they can move on
and then deal with it in their campaign. And again,
I come back to a week two tops. But we'll see,
and maybe they'll shock us and solve it today, but
not likely.
Speaker 10 (22:54):
Right, be great, that would be a shocker. I would
be shocked by that. But I don't think that's happening.
I think that this vote is going to be similar
to the vote that took place earlier this week on Wednesday,
and this gets resolved at some point next week. I
can't say whether it's the early portion of next week,
but certainly by this time next week, I think that
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this will be solved, and I think we'll have essentially
Congress kicking the can down the road. That's all they're
voting on is kicking the can down the road. And
until November the twenty first, and that's right before Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Thanks Kelly.
Speaker 10 (23:26):
If that happens exactly right before Thanksgiving, and then we'll
be right at it all over again.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
One last question, and you can give a very short answer.
Thirty years That is an amazing milestone of covering the
White House. How different is it today from thirty years ago?
I mean, that's a big pendulum from Clinton to Trump.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
It's light and day.
Speaker 10 (23:45):
It's so different from Clinton to Trump. Think about all
of the things that have just changed in terms of
technology between when I first started covering the White House
in nineteen ninety five and today. There was no Internet
to speak of. There was no Facebook, Instagram. New media
was not a word that anybody you know uttered because
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there was no new media. It was old school and
it was just a different time entirely, and it was
pre nine to eleven.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
That also is a big difference as well. Good Times,
Good Times.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Hey.
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on Monday.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Thanks Mike, you did it. The consequences It is the.
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Best way to get back on your fats, to get
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I've been living rent free in that guy's head for
years and that's just.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
A it's time for your sounds the day. I want
to start with Chris Cuomo on News Nation. This could
be a little bit of a lengthy clip, but follow
along now again I get it. Chris Cuomo, brother of governor,
trying to be Merrick Womo in New York City. This
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is a guy that was left. Now he's trying to
be sensible or is he trying to appeal mostly to
the right. There's been a shift. But if he's like
the John Fetterman, reasonable one in the media that nobody trusts,
listen to his take.
Speaker 11 (25:18):
I believe the Democrats have the right problems to fight for,
but they are.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Doing it the wrong way.
Speaker 11 (25:26):
Okay, what you are about to hear from the Democrats.
Speaker 12 (25:30):
Is not true.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
The Republican partisan spending bill that they introduced is not clean.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Well, first of all, let's be clear, it's not a
clean bill. It's a dirty bill. Well, that's all a lie.
Speaker 12 (25:43):
It's not a clean continuing resolution.
Speaker 11 (25:46):
Listen, I like how King jefferies. I think he's got
an amazing future. He's got better fights than this. This
is a clean cr What does that mean? By the way,
By the way, if somebody lies, do you still like him?
You still think they have a great future.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
This is the very narrative, divisive, partisan over duty nonsense
that is one of the primary pillar of problems in
our country. I don't know that to go around liking
that unless that's just a way of framing how you're
going to reveal his flaws. But it is a clean bill.
(26:24):
That's why it came back to even with Decker. You've
got ten members of the United States Senate that are
Democrats that went along with this bill just a few
months ago, and it's the same bill now again, I'll
call balls and strikes. If you're on the left and
you don't like the big beautiful bill and you want
(26:45):
open borders or you want them to have medical benefits. Fine,
fight for that in the midterm, get control of the
House and the Senate and reverse it. But you don't
do it by holding up and not find the government
and then going on television every day and lying about it. Yes,
(27:05):
these two partisan parties have a big difference in worldview
and policy view, but that's not the issue with this
continuing resolution. Well, that comes out in a Fox interview.
I love this clip. So this is Fox and Friends
co host Lawrence Jones calling out Democrat Senator Jeanie Chan,
(27:28):
who is one of from New Hampshire, one of the
ten that we think are likely to flip. In moments
like this may make her flip sooner than you think.
Speaker 13 (27:38):
Listen, I haven't heard anybody in my party saying that
illegal immigrants should get access to the health insurance market.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
I'm so glad you said that.
Speaker 12 (27:46):
Actually, I have some tape of your Democratic Party members
said this on the debase days, so they've all said,
and let's play the clip.
Speaker 14 (27:55):
A lot of you have been talking tonight about these
government healthcare plans that you've post in one form or another.
This is a show of hand's question and hold them
up for a moment so people can see, raise your handed, government,
if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants, and.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
The crowd loving it.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
That's the Democratic debate on June twenty sixth, twenty nineteen,
and every candidate for the Democrat nomination for President of
the United States raises their hand, all eleven of them.
But she's not aware of any Democrats that's support providing
benefits to illegals. Nor is Elizabeth Warren on CBS. And
(28:38):
you know it's bad when you're on CBS Mornings and
they're not even buying your.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
You know what Republicans say, what you're really fighting for
is taxpayer dollars for, as they put it, illegal aliens.
Speaker 12 (28:55):
I know that's not strictly true, but there.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Is a provision. Excuse me, not strictly.
Speaker 12 (29:00):
It's not true directly, but outlay.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
It is a flat out.
Speaker 12 (29:04):
Lie the way that they frame it.
Speaker 13 (29:07):
In Medicaid, there is nothing in medicare that permits one
undocumented immigrant to get one dollar of assistance.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
One dollar of assistance. That's a flat out lie. Now
listen to the next thirty seconds as she explains it
does and it's in order to save hospitals that would
have to pick up the tab if you let me
finish the Russian of course, I'm sorry.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
In the Democratic counter offer, the proposal for funding, there
is a restoration of Medicaid.
Speaker 12 (29:40):
Benefits for certain non citizens that.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
It had been taken away in the Big Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 12 (29:45):
As Republicans put it.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
Republicans don't think those people should be getting healthcare on
the taxpayer dime.
Speaker 12 (29:51):
I'm not asking on the merits.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
Politically, putting that in there exposes you to this talking point,
this lie, as you put it, Why put it in there?
Speaker 12 (29:58):
Why is it worth it?
Speaker 13 (30:00):
No, what's happened is that what we're saying is that
whenever hospitals give care, what is going to be the
level of reimbursement, and the Republicans it's going to be
a low level. The Democrats said, we just want to
go back to the level it was before, because you're
going to bankrupt hospitals.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
So you're trying to relegislate the Big Beautiful Bill with
the continuing resolution and a dereliction of your collective duties.
And the reason you're doing it is because obviously, if
the hospitals can get reimbursed, you're providing healthcare for illegals.
Watch as she just buries herself. Remember this interview started
with how it was a blatant lie.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
You're going to.
Speaker 13 (30:40):
Put rural hospitals out of business. The Republicans and the
Democrats plan. Nothing changes the number of undocumented immigrants who
still get care if they show up bleeding and unconscious
at an emergency room. There is absolutely zero difference. The
difference is whether or not hospitals who under laws the
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date back to Ronald Reagan may provide emergency care to
anyone who's unconscious will actually get reimbursed at a very
low level.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
That's just the unconscious, right. This may be the best
explanation of where we're at. This is in exchange with
the Speaker Johnson on CNN and listen.
Speaker 13 (31:23):
But last week he sent a memo directing agencies to
start drafting plans.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Yeah, just this, so you have.
Speaker 14 (31:31):
A point of view, can you on that phone call
say with him, please don't do this.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
This is not appropriate.
Speaker 9 (31:36):
No, because look, if Restwold hasn't made tough decisions, whoever
is the director of the Austin Management Budget in a
scenario like this has made tough choices. They have to decide.
They're tasked under law. They must decide what are essential
services and what or not? What are policies and proposals.
Speaker 12 (31:51):
Of the tyroary under a shutdown? Or well, I'm going
to be firing people.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Well I'm not sure that hasn't happened before.
Speaker 9 (31:57):
But if if the authority is there and he sees
a program that is wasting taxpayer dollars, you and I
could both agree the government doesn't do everything in the
most effects and that.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Or I mean, constitutionally, that's your job.
Speaker 12 (32:08):
Article one that is York is until.
Speaker 9 (32:09):
Chuck Schumer decides to hand the keys to the president,
which is literally what he's doing. If he makes the
decision to shut the federal government down, he's shutting down
the legislative branch.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I don't know, Red, I don't know what you think
when you hear this.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
You know what I think?
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I think people that are very shallow and they just
have narratives and talking points, and then you have people
that have understanding, and that's how you end up with
interviews like this. She thinks she's making such a great
point because she's standing firm on her talking point and narrative.
In fact, if I freeze frame the video. She's staring
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down at it while he's talking. She's not even listening
to him as she's gathering what she thinks is her
gotcha and he buries her. Yes, it's their job. Speaker
did his job, and then it went to the Senate
and the sent and didn't do its job because Chuck
Schumer is playing partisan politics with it. So watch how
the speaker explains to her the flaw of her narrow
(33:05):
talking point of narratoring people.
Speaker 9 (33:07):
Well, I'm not sure that hasn't happened before. But if
if the authority is there and he sees a program
looking dollars, you.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
And I could both agree.
Speaker 9 (33:14):
The government doesn't do everything in the most efficient I.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Mean, constitutionally, that's your job.
Speaker 12 (33:19):
Article one.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
That is your is.
Speaker 9 (33:20):
Until Chuck Schumer decides to hand the keys to the president,
which is literally what he's doing. If he makes the
decision to shut the federal government down, he's shutting down
the legislative branch and he is giving the authority to
the executive. That's how the system works, and he's made
that decision. So is it foolhardy for him to do so?
Of course it is. Put it back for her fantastically.
Speaker 13 (33:38):
Yes, it's I'm a little surprised that you are okay with.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
That.
Speaker 9 (33:45):
No, it's part of our system. Then it's part of
our constitutional system. The president and his team are.
Speaker 10 (33:49):
Something in the Constitution that says if there's a shutdown.
Speaker 9 (33:53):
But no, no, it's not no because the founders couldn't
have foreseen such a foolish thing that's happening right now.
They would understand and they imply what Congress's first role
is to make sure the government operates right. But in
a scenario like this, if the Congress's hands are tied
by the minority party will not do the right thing,
then the power shifts to the executive. That's not Mike
Johnson doing that. That's Chuck Schumer doing that.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
And that's your Sounds of the Day for this Friday,
October third, aspired.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Stop it get some though. Don't you ever let anybody
take your power from you?
Speaker 11 (34:24):
God please, No, No, it is by the ball, the
motto keep coming.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Hey, it's Friday, that means Friday with forty seven coming up.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
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Speaker 1 (01:20):
Well, Trump vow's full force as he plans to send
troops to Portland amid the anti ice protests. At the
Heritage Foundation, Simon Hankinson is a legal and immigration specialist
and he's joining us just to kind of talk about, well,
the pros and cons of that. There could be a
lot of pros today, a safer Portland, like a safe
for DC, but there could be cons down the road.
(01:42):
And I think anytime we have this conversation, Simon, DC
was different because it's under the control of Congress, as
opposed to Portland, Chicago, or other cities the President may
have in mind. The first foremost question is is it
legal to use our military to secure our cities?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
And good morning, Simon, Good morning. Well yes, I mean
it's legal.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
To use our military to secure federal facilities and protect
federal agents and authorities from from you know, rioters, and
in particular in conditions where cities and states aren't willing
to do it. There's a line that can be crossed.
They're not allowed to enforce civil law. They're not allowed
to do the job of police, basically under the Pasi
(02:26):
Commatatus Act. And that's why I believe that your judge
ruled against the administration for some of the things they
did in Los Angeles, but not all. So you know,
they have to be careful to be within those lines.
But in a place like Portland, where you have a
federal facility that's been under siege for you know, weeks,
it seems like an appropriate use of federal force to me.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
But the short answer would be keep it to around
that ICE facility.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Well, not just the ices, so I mean, there are
other federal facilities. In most port cities. There are multiple
federal facilities, and you know there are federal agents who
go about their business from not just icepit, other parts
of DHS and DEA and FBI and so on.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
So I would hope, and we don't apparently, but I
would hope everybody in America would realize the number one
priority of every municipal, every county, every state, even the
federal government is the safety and protection of its people.
We're either going to be a culture of law and order,
we're going to be chaos and anarchy. It has kind
(03:27):
of simon. I mean, I like to call balls and
strikes and be fair. But one side, I remember just
a couple of convention conventions ago was conditioning us for
what I think was a plan for insurrection that they
called off when Biden surprisingly won. But they were calling
good trouble, disobedience, rioting, burning cop cars, destroying businesses, lootings.
(03:52):
One side doesn't seem to be interested in law enforcement.
In fact, they've even turned the table. The cops are
the bad guys. The bad guys are actually the good
guys and the victims. How on earth did this become
a partisan political issue.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Yeah, that one surprises me too, because we can argue
about taxes, we can argue about social issues, you know,
gender ideology, whatever.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
But at the end of the day.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
When there are laws passed and they're on the books,
as you say, the job of local authorities, job number
one is public safety. And in Portland, in Minneapolis and
other big cities, they have basically abandoned that job. You
had one hundred days of riots in Portland where every
single night they were out there destroying property, you know,
making so much noise. People couldn't sleep, normal people couldn't
(04:47):
go about their lives. And it wasn't about them and
their free speech rights and their right to protest. Nobody's
arguing about that. It was them stopping people going to work.
It was them stopping people from from you know, enjoying
the quiet life that they had a right to enjoy.
So I do not understand why some on the left,
and it's not all, but there's some politicians on the left,
(05:09):
particularly in very, very blue cities, who simply do not
want to enforce laws, and they are in favor of
abolishing the criminal justice.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
System and constitutionally, you know, you would think the voters.
I mean, no one really wants to live. It's amazing
I say that, But as I say, there's a lot
of people in Chicago just turn a blind eye to it.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
You know, that's just the way it is.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
And when I go to these certain areas, it happens,
you know, but no one wants to live where it's unsafe.
Nobody wants to raise their children where it's unsafe. And
then the school where it's unsafe, nobody wants to put
their business places that are unsafe. So I think constitutionally,
the notion was always well, the voters, you know, if
suddenly this became a partisan issue, they would just vote
them out and vote in people who do prioritize the
(05:51):
right things of government. But you know, it's us versus them,
shirts and skins blue versus red. That's kind of We
got a new poll that's out today saying most voters
don't think the divisions in this country can be overcome.
I guess one of my concerns is every day I
go to bed trying to make sure we're not an
(06:12):
inch closer to civil war. I mean, that's the common
I've been reduced to that anything after that is a victory.
But these these differences are big, and these states versus states,
and people versus people. It's looking a lot more like
eighteen fifty eight than twenty twenty five or even nineteen
sixty eight. How concerning is this play to what could
(06:36):
potentially lead to civil war?
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Well, I sure hope it doesn't get that far, But
you're right, there are cities where it's essentially just a
battle between.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
You know, the left and the far left.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
San Francisco, for example, they had this completely insane prosecutor,
Chessa Buden, who just didn't believe in prosecuting criminals. I mean,
you know, his parents were both weather underground terarists upon
it naturally and spend a lot of time with Hugo
Chavez in Venezuela. Finally, the people San Francisco even threw
him out, and they've just elected a mayor who is
(07:09):
a Democrat, but one who believes in law enforcement. So
I think that's what's going to have to happen, is
that they're going to have to be enough politicians on
the Democratic side who realized that public safety, law and
order is not a left right thing. It is a
bipartisan thing that everybody wants and then can get elected.
But unfortunately, like in New York Chicago, we for the
(07:30):
moment are seeing mayors who are willing to burn the
place down rather than have any federal assistance, and seem
to put politics ahead of the public safety and economic
prosperity of their own cities.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Sure is nice to meet you.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Closing moments with Simon Hankinson with the Heritage Foundation, I
was doing an interview. Oh my gosh, this made me
feel old. Probably thirty three years ago. That's how long
we've been going around in this circle over illegal immigration,
and we haven't even gotten to they failed immigration policies
of this country. But you know, I once asked a
(08:05):
member of Congress, you know, I said, yeah, why can't
we find common ground on this? I mean, we all
lock our doors at night. That doesn't mean we hate
everybody outside. It means we love everybody inside. I mean,
it's just it's an issue of sovereignty. It's an issue
of national security, it's an issue of wisdom, national financial security.
He looked, he just interrupted me and said, when it
comes to the immigration issue, we don't make any progress
(08:27):
because the left loves the free votes and the right
loves the cheaper labor. If we progressed any because the
stakes are getting higher and higher, and the crime is
getting worse and worse. And now the presidents tell us
that he's in an all out military war with drug
car tells, I mean, we've been in a drug war
for a while. It's about time we fight him back
with our military. But if we come any further in
(08:49):
that right likes the cheaper labor, left likes the votes.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
No, and that's a really good summary of where things
were thirty years ago and where they are are now.
The one difference is, and I write about this in
my book, the Ten Woke Commandments you must not obey.
Chapter one is you shall have no border. That's the
difference is that now on the left you have people
who actually believe there should be no borders, that we
should have a globalist government, and that people have a
(09:17):
right to migrate anywhere they want to go, and that
any attempt to keep somebody out of a developed country
is racist, is oppressive. So that's the biggest difference thirty
years ago, Clinton Carter more than thirty years But Democrats, yeah,
Democrats supported enforcing immigration law. They wanted to change it.
Maybe we argued over the details. How many people, you know,
(09:38):
what are the conditions, how long should they be allowed
to stay? But you never had a president who said,
forget it, I'm just going to open the borders untill
Joe Biden. Why that happened. I try to make sense
of it in my book, but it's a mystery to
me because, as you say, it fundamentally undermines the basis
of our country. In every country, if you don't have
a distinction between people who are citizens and belong in
(09:58):
people who are alien and foreigners, and who don't belong
unless we allow them, unless we accept them and invite them.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I know you did ten give us your top three
woke commandments that must never be obeyed.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Well, you shall have no borders was number one in
the book. You shall not know what is a man,
and you shall not know what is a woman. Those
are chapters four and five, And I give him the
whole gender ideology thing we've been told. You must accept.
If someone says they are, all of a sudden of
the opposite sex, they are, and they have a right
to go wherever those people go. They can go to
opposite sex changing rooms, prisons.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
That they have to go to jail.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
You know, schools compete in sports, all the rest of it.
And the last chapters you will you shall take no
responsibility for your success or failure. So everything that happens
to you is the result of you know, systems and
oppression and these magical forces. You know, it's not your
fault that you can't find a job, or that you
stored lower on the test, or you know you weigh
(10:53):
five hundred pounds. Those are all things that happened to you.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
You abandon God, you abandon way, truth and life. And
you always replace something when you abandon it, and we
replace it with moral relativism. It is a far left tool.
There's a national, international, and global effort to de develop
and develop and govern at a global level. I mean,
(11:19):
there's a lot of things, but I really think at
the root of it was it was abandoning the ability
to self governed by abandoning a God that would give
us the ability to self govern. So how do we
get out of this mess, Simon, not just through not
obeying those woke commands, but how do we ultimately solve
this And to go back to that piece of research,
get to where the majority of Americans say we can
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overcome our divisions God to involve God, right, that was
our first step in the wrong direction, abandoning him.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Well, I think we do need guidance from outside mankind.
You know, we don't seem to be able to come
up with rules to live by without some kind of
divine intervention. But you know, we're a pluralistic, religiously society.
Even on the Christian side, we're split into you know,
who knows how many denominations and people who differ on
(12:10):
various points. So we need to come back to the
things I think the first five words of the book,
or whatsoever things are true. Let's think on those things.
Let's find what we actually agree on. We should believe
that families are the basis of society. We should believe
that we should not kill, we should not injure our neighbors.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
That we should work hard.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
These are basic things that we could probably agree on
and we can build around that.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
But then you had the social media, and you know,
I compare eighteen fifty eight to today, and I say, well,
we couldn't stop the Civil War in eighteen fifty eight
and they didn't even have the Internet feeding the flames
of dividing. But our finding fathers often talked about self
evident truth. I don't know that self evident truth exists.
I think your book could help them find ten will
(12:55):
commandments you should never obey. I think it's a must read.
I think you're a must to come back as often
as you'd like. Simon Hankinson with the Heritage Foundation, thank
you for your book, and thank you for your time today.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Thank you so much for having me.
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The chair of the Federal Communications Commission is set to
testify and a set it Commerce Committee meeting today. More
partisan drama on the Hill more from Mark Mayfield.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Brendon Carr spark criticism from members of both parties due
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Multiple reports indicate car has agreed to provide testimony to
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Apple is removing ice tracking devices from its app store.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Tech company said Thursday night that it was removing ice
Block and other apps that are used to report sightings
of ice agents. CNBC says the move was made after
Attorney General Pam Bondi put pressure on Apple to take
down the app. The FBI said last week that the
gunman who killed two immigrants at a Dallas ice facility
had been using the app to track ice agents.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Ice Block has.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Been downloaded over a million times since it was introduced
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Two people are reported dead after an attack outside of
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Speaker 4 (14:45):
Please everybody out.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
The incident happened as Jews are marking the Yam Kapoor holiday.
The suspect was reportedly seen driving a vehicle towards the
crowd before going on the attack earlier Thursday. He failed
the gain into the synagogue and was shot by armed
officers at the scene, and is also believed to be deceased.
King Charles released a statement saying he and Queen Camilla
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are deeply shocked. And saddened to learn of the horrific
attack in Manchester, especially on such a significant day for
the Jewish community. Prime Minister Kerr Starmer, who had been
in Copenhagen for meetings, wrapped up his business early to
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Speaker 7 (15:26):
Her name was Kitty and Witty the pop star.
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This is your morning show. Michael.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Jeffrey's got the sound read keeping an eye on the content,
and we're all keeping an eye on the talkback line.
I'm gonna skip to a well, let's do Joey real quick.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
This is Joe from Mikesville, Pennsylvania, aka Joey, and my
morning show is your morning show with Michael Dell Jorno.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
So thank you, Joe.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I like that I get called pizza boy by forty seven,
who will be long next hour Friday with forty seven.
And then I like how I rename people and they
accept the name I give them. Yeah, all Joes are
Joey to me, Joey. It's way more affectionate. Roger listening
in Sacramento for.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Ain't Michael Jeffer interhead, Hey, Michael, I liked your definition
of the difference between knowledge and wisdom. I'd like to
share mine. I look at it as knowledge is knowing
that tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it
in fruit solid That's very nice.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I like that one a lot. Tim is listening to
k e IB that.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Stands for excellence in broadcasting. The station literally took its
call letters from the Rush Limba show.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Listening in Los Angeles?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Is tim stand a lot of stuff on social media
about we're at war, getting ready to go to war.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
What's the truth?
Speaker 9 (17:44):
Are we getting ready to go to war or we
are ready at war with Venezuela?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Like what's going on?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Well, your first mistake is take is war with ignorance
and being on social media. We're in a proxy war
with Russia for sure, in the support of Ukraine. We're
in a proxy war with Iran and fighting terrorism in
the Middle East. And the President of the United States
is telling Congress the US is in a formal armed conflict,
which by definition wouldn't be a war, but an armed
(18:14):
conflict with drug car tells if that's the one you're
referring to, not at war, although there's been a war
on drugs that we need to finally get serious about.
This presidency is and he's informed Congress we're in an
armed conflict with them. John Decker is our White House correspondent.
Keep those talkbacks coming, By the way, The Senate is
expected to take a vote today on whether to reopen
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the government one of the odds. John Decker has covered
every government shutdown since Bill Clinton, and yesterday we talked
about how he's getting inside information from a young little
operative named George Stepanopholis who's now still an.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Operative on ABC.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
And now we think we're getting a letter from the
President to congratulate you on thirty years of White House service.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
That's exactly right. I'm so over the moon about that.
Speaker 10 (19:03):
That's pretty cool, the President of the United States doing that.
And I'll share that with you when I receive that.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
And why don't you get me something even an auto
pen version.
Speaker 10 (19:16):
No, this is going to be the real deal, signed
by his hand himself, not auto ben So no, I'm
really happy about that. And a big celebration regarding that
milestone at the end of this month at the Swedish
Embassy here in Washington, DC.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
So looking forward to that as well. Well, it's the
last two years that matter the most. That's when I
finally got to meet you. You're a big part of
this show. I consider you a very very good at
your job and a very dear friend. So I'm congratulating
you formally.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Now.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
That is a big, big deal, all right, the shutdown.
Nobody thinks this is lasting more than a week or two.
Any chance to could end today.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
I don't think so.
Speaker 10 (19:56):
I think that you know, lawmakers on the Senate side,
that's where i'll the action is.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
They need sixty votes.
Speaker 10 (20:01):
They need to have the weekend to moul things over.
In terms of next step, I don't think when that
vote takes place, which will be around one thirty Eastern
time this afternoon, it will lead to more Democratic senators
coming on board to support that continuing resolution. But I
still do believe that this will be a short shutdown.
(20:21):
I do believe that by this time next week it
should be over.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
I hope I'm right.
Speaker 10 (20:26):
As I pointed out yesterday, there are federal workers that
are not getting paid that impacts their families. There are
members of the military that are not getting paid after
their check that they receive from mid October, and they
serve our country in uniform. They protect and secure our country,
and that's just not right as it relates to their predicament.
Right now, because of this political fight between Democrats and Republicans.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I can never make a simple point because I almost
have to explain all the lies or nuances of lies
and internet chaos. This is a clean resolution. It's no difference.
It's just continuing what they all agreed on back in March.
So there are about ten Democrats in all that approved
the one in March, six of which don't face a reelection.
(21:12):
That's why I say they'll cave. And their constituents aren't
as radical left as some of the others, or have
the concerns of being targeted. But I thought AOC made
it very clear that if anybody wants to talk about this,
they can come directly to her office. That was their
way of saying, I'm not targeting Chuckie Schumer. I'm going
to run for president. But I digress. It is a
clean bill. There are ten that are ready to cave,
(21:35):
ten of which voted for the exact same bill back
in March.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
I give it a week tops. Yeah, I hope you're right.
Speaker 10 (21:43):
You know that's the optimism also expressed by Vice President
jd Vance when he came to the briefing room earlier
this week on Wednesday. You know, I've covered so many
of these over the years, you get a feel for things,
and to me, a protracted shutdown politically doesn't make sense.
It just doesn't make sense for Democrats, and it certainly
doesn't make sense for Republicans. The midterms are next year,
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and Republicans want to hold on to the House and Senate.
Democrats want to take over the House and the Senate,
and it just doesn't make sense to go about keeping
the government closed if you're trying to do those two.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Things, but to create the false narrative to take your
stand for your radical left base and show them that
you're a fight fight fight fighter that can be resurfaced
in a midterm because you know, we're staring at the holidays, John,
and once they start, you blink, you're right in midterm
campaign season. So the question really becomes how much political
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theater does the left need before they can move on
and then deal with it in their campaign. And again,
I come back to a week two tops. But we'll see,
and maybe they'll shock us and solve it today, but
not likely.
Speaker 10 (22:54):
Right, be great, that would be a shocker. I would
be shocked by that. But I don't think that's happening.
I think that this vote is going to be similar
to the vote that took place earlier this week on Wednesday,
and this gets resolved at some point next week. I
can't say whether it's the early portion of next week,
but certainly by this time next week, I think that
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this will be solved, and I think we'll have essentially
Congress kicking the can down the road. That's all they're
voting on is kicking the can down the road. And
until November the twenty first, and that's right before Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Thanks Kelly.
Speaker 10 (23:26):
If that happens exactly right before Thanksgiving, and then we'll
be right at it all over again.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
One last question, and you can give a very short answer.
Thirty years That is an amazing milestone of covering the
White House. How different is it today from thirty years ago?
I mean, that's a big pendulum from Clinton to Trump.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
It's light and day.
Speaker 10 (23:45):
It's so different from Clinton to Trump. Think about all
of the things that have just changed in terms of
technology between when I first started covering the White House
in nineteen ninety five and today. There was no Internet
to speak of. There was no Facebook, Instagram. New media
was not a word that anybody you know uttered because
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there was no new media. It was old school and
it was just a different time entirely, and it was
pre nine to eleven.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
That also is a big difference as well. Good Times,
Good Times.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
You can learn more from John The White House Briefing Room,
the podcast with John Decker. It's out by nine Central
every morning ten Eastern. Check it out today on your
iHeartRadio app. Have a great weekend, John. We'll talk again
on Monday.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Thanks Mike, you did it. The consequences It is the.
Speaker 9 (24:35):
Best way to get back on your fats, to get
up off your app.
Speaker 8 (24:38):
I've been living rent free in that guy's head for
years and that's just.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
A it's time for your sounds the day. I want
to start with Chris Cuomo on News Nation. This could
be a little bit of a lengthy clip, but follow
along now again I get it. Chris Cuomo, brother of governor,
trying to be Merrick Womo in New York City. This
(25:04):
is a guy that was left. Now he's trying to
be sensible or is he trying to appeal mostly to
the right. There's been a shift. But if he's like
the John Fetterman, reasonable one in the media that nobody trusts,
listen to his take.
Speaker 11 (25:18):
I believe the Democrats have the right problems to fight for,
but they are.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Doing it the wrong way.
Speaker 11 (25:26):
Okay, what you are about to hear from the Democrats.
Speaker 12 (25:30):
Is not true.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
The Republican partisan spending bill that they introduced is not clean.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Well, first of all, let's be clear, it's not a
clean bill. It's a dirty bill. Well, that's all a lie.
Speaker 12 (25:43):
It's not a clean continuing resolution.
Speaker 11 (25:46):
Listen, I like how King jefferies. I think he's got
an amazing future. He's got better fights than this. This
is a clean cr What does that mean? By the way,
By the way, if somebody lies, do you still like him?
You still think they have a great future.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
This is the very narrative, divisive, partisan over duty nonsense
that is one of the primary pillar of problems in
our country. I don't know that to go around liking
that unless that's just a way of framing how you're
going to reveal his flaws. But it is a clean bill.
(26:24):
That's why it came back to even with Decker. You've
got ten members of the United States Senate that are
Democrats that went along with this bill just a few
months ago, and it's the same bill now again, I'll
call balls and strikes. If you're on the left and
you don't like the big beautiful bill and you want
(26:45):
open borders or you want them to have medical benefits. Fine,
fight for that in the midterm, get control of the
House and the Senate and reverse it. But you don't
do it by holding up and not find the government
and then going on television every day and lying about it. Yes,
(27:05):
these two partisan parties have a big difference in worldview
and policy view, but that's not the issue with this
continuing resolution. Well, that comes out in a Fox interview.
I love this clip. So this is Fox and Friends
co host Lawrence Jones calling out Democrat Senator Jeanie Chan,
(27:28):
who is one of from New Hampshire, one of the
ten that we think are likely to flip. In moments
like this may make her flip sooner than you think.
Speaker 13 (27:38):
Listen, I haven't heard anybody in my party saying that
illegal immigrants should get access to the health insurance market.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
I'm so glad you said that.
Speaker 12 (27:46):
Actually, I have some tape of your Democratic Party members
said this on the debase days, so they've all said,
and let's play the clip.
Speaker 14 (27:55):
A lot of you have been talking tonight about these
government healthcare plans that you've post in one form or another.
This is a show of hand's question and hold them
up for a moment so people can see, raise your handed, government,
if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants, and.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
The crowd loving it.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
That's the Democratic debate on June twenty sixth, twenty nineteen,
and every candidate for the Democrat nomination for President of
the United States raises their hand, all eleven of them.
But she's not aware of any Democrats that's support providing
benefits to illegals. Nor is Elizabeth Warren on CBS. And
(28:38):
you know it's bad when you're on CBS Mornings and
they're not even buying your.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
You know what Republicans say, what you're really fighting for
is taxpayer dollars for, as they put it, illegal aliens.
Speaker 12 (28:55):
I know that's not strictly true, but there.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Is a provision. Excuse me, not strictly.
Speaker 12 (29:00):
It's not true directly, but outlay.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
It is a flat out.
Speaker 12 (29:04):
Lie the way that they frame it.
Speaker 13 (29:07):
In Medicaid, there is nothing in medicare that permits one
undocumented immigrant to get one dollar of assistance.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
One dollar of assistance. That's a flat out lie. Now
listen to the next thirty seconds as she explains it
does and it's in order to save hospitals that would
have to pick up the tab if you let me
finish the Russian of course, I'm sorry.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
In the Democratic counter offer, the proposal for funding, there
is a restoration of Medicaid.
Speaker 12 (29:40):
Benefits for certain non citizens that.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
It had been taken away in the Big Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 12 (29:45):
As Republicans put it.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
Republicans don't think those people should be getting healthcare on
the taxpayer dime.
Speaker 12 (29:51):
I'm not asking on the merits.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
Politically, putting that in there exposes you to this talking point,
this lie, as you put it, Why put it in there?
Speaker 12 (29:58):
Why is it worth it?
Speaker 13 (30:00):
No, what's happened is that what we're saying is that
whenever hospitals give care, what is going to be the
level of reimbursement, and the Republicans it's going to be
a low level. The Democrats said, we just want to
go back to the level it was before, because you're
going to bankrupt hospitals.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
So you're trying to relegislate the Big Beautiful Bill with
the continuing resolution and a dereliction of your collective duties.
And the reason you're doing it is because obviously, if
the hospitals can get reimbursed, you're providing healthcare for illegals.
Watch as she just buries herself. Remember this interview started
with how it was a blatant lie.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
You're going to.
Speaker 13 (30:40):
Put rural hospitals out of business. The Republicans and the
Democrats plan. Nothing changes the number of undocumented immigrants who
still get care if they show up bleeding and unconscious
at an emergency room. There is absolutely zero difference. The
difference is whether or not hospitals who under laws the
(31:03):
date back to Ronald Reagan may provide emergency care to
anyone who's unconscious will actually get reimbursed at a very
low level.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
That's just the unconscious, right. This may be the best
explanation of where we're at. This is in exchange with
the Speaker Johnson on CNN and listen.
Speaker 13 (31:23):
But last week he sent a memo directing agencies to
start drafting plans.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Yeah, just this, so you have.
Speaker 14 (31:31):
A point of view, can you on that phone call
say with him, please don't do this.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
This is not appropriate.
Speaker 9 (31:36):
No, because look, if Restwold hasn't made tough decisions, whoever
is the director of the Austin Management Budget in a
scenario like this has made tough choices. They have to decide.
They're tasked under law. They must decide what are essential
services and what or not? What are policies and proposals.
Speaker 12 (31:51):
Of the tyroary under a shutdown? Or well, I'm going
to be firing people.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Well I'm not sure that hasn't happened before.
Speaker 9 (31:57):
But if if the authority is there and he sees
a program that is wasting taxpayer dollars, you and I
could both agree the government doesn't do everything in the
most effects and that.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Or I mean, constitutionally, that's your job.
Speaker 12 (32:08):
Article one that is York is until.
Speaker 9 (32:09):
Chuck Schumer decides to hand the keys to the president,
which is literally what he's doing. If he makes the
decision to shut the federal government down, he's shutting down
the legislative branch.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I don't know, Red, I don't know what you think
when you hear this.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
You know what I think?
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I think people that are very shallow and they just
have narratives and talking points, and then you have people
that have understanding, and that's how you end up with
interviews like this. She thinks she's making such a great
point because she's standing firm on her talking point and narrative.
In fact, if I freeze frame the video. She's staring
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down at it while he's talking. She's not even listening
to him as she's gathering what she thinks is her
gotcha and he buries her. Yes, it's their job. Speaker
did his job, and then it went to the Senate
and the sent and didn't do its job because Chuck
Schumer is playing partisan politics with it. So watch how
the speaker explains to her the flaw of her narrow
(33:05):
talking point of narratoring people.
Speaker 9 (33:07):
Well, I'm not sure that hasn't happened before. But if
if the authority is there and he sees a program
looking dollars, you.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
And I could both agree.
Speaker 9 (33:14):
The government doesn't do everything in the most efficient I.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Mean, constitutionally, that's your job.
Speaker 12 (33:19):
Article one.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
That is your is.
Speaker 9 (33:20):
Until Chuck Schumer decides to hand the keys to the president,
which is literally what he's doing. If he makes the
decision to shut the federal government down, he's shutting down
the legislative branch and he is giving the authority to
the executive. That's how the system works, and he's made
that decision. So is it foolhardy for him to do so?
Of course it is. Put it back for her fantastically.
Speaker 13 (33:38):
Yes, it's I'm a little surprised that you are okay with.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
That.
Speaker 9 (33:45):
No, it's part of our system. Then it's part of
our constitutional system. The president and his team are.
Speaker 10 (33:49):
Something in the Constitution that says if there's a shutdown.
Speaker 9 (33:53):
But no, no, it's not no because the founders couldn't
have foreseen such a foolish thing that's happening right now.
They would understand and they imply what Congress's first role
is to make sure the government operates right. But in
a scenario like this, if the Congress's hands are tied
by the minority party will not do the right thing,
then the power shifts to the executive. That's not Mike
Johnson doing that. That's Chuck Schumer doing that.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
And that's your Sounds of the Day for this Friday,
October third, aspired.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Stop it get some though. Don't you ever let anybody
take your power from you?
Speaker 11 (34:24):
God please, No, No, it is by the ball, the
motto keep coming.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Hey, it's Friday, that means Friday with forty seven coming up.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
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