October 6, 2025 • 36 mins
The Dems have an Israel problem; is the Republican Party developing one too?? Republican consultant Chris Walker joins us to break down the far-right abandonment led by Tucker Carlson and others.
Could a Middle East peace happen before the government reopens? National Correspondent RORY O’NEILL will take a look at both negotiations – and what needs to be tied up in order to move forward in both Gaza and Capitol Hill.
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
Big talks in Egypt today as the pursuit of peace
over war begins with Hamas releasing hostages or else he
Judge's block Trump and the administration from sending members to
federalize the National Guard in the streets of Portland, and
write Aid has officially closed all of its stores. Tigers
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won three to two or won the first one game,
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home tomorrow. Tide a game of peace in the Divisional playoffs,
and the Patriots beat the Buffalo Bills last night twenty
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tonight is the Jacksonville Jaguars and the Kansas City Chiefs.
All right, if you're just waking up the Democrats, we
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talked about this a lot last year during the presidential campaign.
They had a big eye problem. Now they have a
division within their party problem justice socialist Democrats whose first
goal is to take over the party then dismantle the
Republic after getting rid of the electoral map. There also
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is within that in Islam misted a portion and a
block that's coming to front and center in the New
York City mayor's race. So the problem was if the
Democrats wanted to stand by Israel, the far left of
their party wouldn't allow it. So they had an eye
Next thing you know, they're on the side of terrorists.
(02:05):
Is the Republican Party beginning to develop an eye problem
of its own, coming from the far rights, abandonment of
Israel as a Zionist state being led by Tucker Carlson
and endless wars. Chris Walker is a Republican consultant, and
there's no question that's taking place. It's mainly an online experience,
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but could this become a party problem for Republicans moving forward?
Good morning, Chris.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Coom moaning, Michael, you know, I think so I'm seeing.
You know, I've said for a long time that Twitter
is in a real place, and you know, social media
needs to always be taken with a grain of salt.
But what I'm seeing are people of friends of mine
who are starting to echo some of these points that
are just absolutely wrong. Whether it's you know, Israel has
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started this war, or you know, don't have the right
to defend themselves, or are the arche tact of so
many negative things. Israel's behind nine to eleven. It's just like,
oh my gosh, like there's a lot of Israel's behind eleven.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I think ultimately they're going to tell you that Israel's
behind the assassination of Charlie Kirk. There's no end to it,
and of course, disconnect the old Covenant from the New Covenant,
and you know, and this is not the Israel of
God's people, and God's People don't exist anymore. All of that.
I mean, it's a big but it's terrifying in that
it might be becoming real. It is and it.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Is and it's you know, these are people that I listened.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
To it a cocktail party, you know, telling me, hey,
you know, like why aren't these questions being answered or whatever.
It's like, well, this isn't because they're not they're not
thoughtful questions. You know, Israel was attacked on October seventh,
twenty twenty three, in a vicious and brutal way that
has exacerbated a problem that has been existing since Israel
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was created in the nineteen forties. And you know, this
is a front door to global terrorism that Israel fights
every day. And the idea that somehow we are on
the wrong side of not supporting them, you know, it's
crazy and I mean we people seem to forget what
happened in our country, you know in two thousand and one.
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People seem to forget that. You know, there's an entire
the hottest empire and globalize the intifaught it something that's
being said regularly. We know what that means.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
And you know, there's a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Wanting to take that side because they're being you know,
they're looking at pictures that are being manipulated from from
you know, Hamas and saying, oh my gosh, this is
in this terrible Well, yeah, they shouldn't have started a
war with Israel in the process of doing that, and
you know.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
This is this is what we're seeing out of that.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
All right. So when people ask me, first of all,
I it's not possible to sway or budge me because
I look at it primarily from a biblical standpoint. Uh.
If you're honest and look at it from a historical standpoint,
you should come to the same conclusion. What are they
building on pure emotion? Pure I mean, what are they
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building their case.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
On, you know, which is crazy?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I mean we we saw specifically Trump's making Netanyahu call
the Prime Minister of Katar to apologize for an attack.
I mean, it's not like this is a you know,
one sided relationship. I mean you had Tucker's team going
out there saying that, you know, Israeli general you know,
ran the Pentagon absurd on its face. You know, there
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are there are I mean, I hate to say it,
but there are untruthful people with inside the Trump administration
that are pushing narratives to Tucker and others that are
just un you know, unhelpful towards an alliance. There is
a growing concern within the Republican Party of some of
these folks who do not have Israel a list does
and ally, but as an enemy, and that is a
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really negative and bad thing. Israel is the only elected
democracy in the Middle East. They stand at the forefront
of an entirely fossile region that's hostile to the democratic
ideals and Judeo Christian values. And you know, this is
something that is incredibly important to not only the security
of the Middle East and you know, global stability, but
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of our security and stability. And you know, the idea
that somehow that's not going to be a problem by
upending it is is abduced to history.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Is it two separate issues? Should Christian believers in America
abandon Israel and should America abandon Israel? I don't know
which is more terrifying.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Well, you know, the the.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Israeli government is not Judaism, correct, So you know, I mean,
in some regards, it's like any elected government. You can
have disagreements to policy.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
You could be I mean, you could disagree with how.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Nat Nyahu is conducting the post October seventh War if
you want to. I mean, there's nothing wrong with that,
per se.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
But what my.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Concern is it's becoming not an Israeli attack, but attack
on Judaism and turning into an anti Semitic rhetoric that
is historically incredibly dangerous. And so you know, that's.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Where we're turning into.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
And again we're talking about Tucker. I mean, here's a
guy who you know, just constantly, recklessly talks about the
Jewish people and linking them with you know, the negativity
of what they see what he sees in.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
That Yahoo and you know, kind of washes his.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Hands of it and says, oh, well, I'm just I'm
just asking questions. No, you're you're you're platforming people who
are literally, you know, taking the side of a calling
you know, Winston Churchill a bad guy of World War Two?
What is he trying to actually say with that? He's
trying to platform people and normalize people who have rightfully
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been you know, on the wrong side history and should
continue to do so.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
So let's not pretend that Tucker is they're ignoring.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
What they're ignoring. What they're ignoring is these radical Islamists
don't see Israel's right to exist number one. Number two,
they don't see our right to exist, and first come
Saturday Israel, then comes Sunday, the great Satan America. I
suspect if we had a major terrorist attack in America
and I'm beginning to think one's eminent, Uh, they would
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turn right around and blame that on Israel and President
Trump and ignore thousands of years hideaths and Surah's. You know,
it's just a complete lack of understanding of Islam. Sure,
it's a religion of peace as long as you surrender
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to them otherwise, right, Uh, it's a relentless onslaught of violence.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
So but all right, so a lot of response to
President Trump's you know plan, I'm trying to the war
and I also has accepted with conditions. Well, well, no
that's not you guys are the aggressors here.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
You guys are the.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Ones that are doing that. And let's let's not forget that.
You know, they continue to hold hostages, they continue to
count their numbers based on civilian casualties rather than you know,
kind of actual you know, combatant casualties. And so this
is this is not a fair situation in which they
abide by normal rules of international diplomacy and law. And
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because they don't want it. They want a calivate and
that's a bigger that is not something that is congruent
with you Christian values in Western you know, democracies.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
We would hope not. It might be with some Ivy
League universities. Chris Walker, Republican Consultant Analysts, is joining us
for our All Things Republican Monday conversation. All right, so
let's keep in mind although Barack Obama had his moments
for eight years, we don't even know who was running
the Biden administration. Things are pretty unfriendly for America and Israel. Now,
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you had in between the four year first term of
Donald Trump and now the second term of Donald Trump.
If the Democrats should rally and get the White House back,
if this whole Charlie Kirk thing that rises up to
be a self proclaimed revival that turns anti Semitic from
these same people that are trying to turn the Republican
Party against Israel, you could wake up a lot quicker
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than you think with an American abandonment of Israel. Now,
I'm reminded of old Testament scriptures like I will bless
those who bless her, curse those who curser mistakes just
got a whole lot higher. So, but how does this
all play out beginning in the mid term and not
so much the midterms. I really think this one is
a twenty twenty eight issue. But if not resolved, you'll
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have two major parties both failing and both abandoning Israel.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Well, you know, that's time for a third party then
in that regards, that's what happens. But that's all. That's
a whole other conversation or at least a you know,
a disillusion of both of the parties at some level
of both of them reject Israel. You know, that is
a that is a recipe for domestic upheaval because it is, uh,
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it is such an important piece of cultural and you know,
international security that any type of kind of movement in
that direction, that just just scares me. For you know,
what is what has been a relatively you know, peaceful
existence outside of you know, obviously the things the things
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that God's are table Like, this isn't a you know,
you can't look at that and say, oh, my goodness,
like that's fine.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
But let's not forget that Israel wants to just exist
and their neighbors want.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
To destroy them.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
So Israel's response to attacks is a righteous cause, and
you know, conflating that and turning that into an unrighte
pause is a very very concerning issue. So I think
from our country standpoint, you know, we shapp to back Israel.
President Trump has been set stalwart on that and he
continues to do so because he knows what it's about.
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I mean, let's not forget over the summer, there are
a lot of people that didn't want him to, you know,
attack a ringy nuclear facilities, and you know that's a
that's a big part of our national security as well.
That President Trump he fully understands because he gets the
intelligence preepings. There's a lot of people that don't and
don't understand that.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I suspect President Trump thinks the best way to resolve
this issue. I don't think he really cares about divisions
within the Republican Party because he's really a party in
and of himself. But I think he thinks it will
ultimately resolve when he brings peace. But peace may not happen.
It hasn't happened for a long time. Uh should the administration,
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probably through Marco Rubio, might be their best voice, begin
to educate not just the American people but their party
on who's the good side and the bad side, and
maybe even take this as a teachable moment historically to
kind of set this record straight and offset Otherwise, I
think you're going to see movements within the far right
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of the Republican Party, led by way of X, you know,
continue to to beat this drum.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, I think that's right, But I would I would
go further than.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
The Secretary of State.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
This is a cultural moment that needs cultural solutions. You know, television, churches,
you know, organizations, you know, anybody who's looking at them,
at their community and saying, hey, we care about this
place needs to understand the importance Israel's part of it.
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And so I would say beyond just Marco Rubio, I agree,
and we have a huge educational dirst that needs to
be filled because that's how that's how far gone a
lot of these kids have become getting their news from
tech talk and social media. So you know, let's look
at the good time of the bat side.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
This has been tried.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I mean two thousand, Arrol Sharon literally tried to give
everything to Yas for AIRFAE and the also AIRFOT told
him to go to Hell. I mean, there is not.
It's very hard to negotiate with a group that wants
you destroyed, and if that's their position from the beginning,
it's very hard to negotiate. So I think President Trump's
going to find a very hard you know road here,
and you know y'a who's said as much in President
(14:27):
I think, especially with that because he does want to
see a deal. But I think you're talking about millennia
of cultural issues that you know, don't just get solved
because of a president who's in the White House.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Hopefully that is.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
What happens, but it's going to be an ongoing issue.
A moficor not want is real to exist, No.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I know, Andrew and I were blessed to be a
world outreach yesterday with Pastor around and Jackson one of
the few who really gets it, has the courage to
say it and lay it out in the balanced way.
It should be much as you have today. We'll see
how this plays out, but it is a brewing, that's
for sure.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
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Speaker 1 (15:05):
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Speaker 5 (15:07):
Thank you so much for what Chris Walker and his
analysis brought to everybody today because that is exactly the
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Speaker 1 (15:19):
But I'm only a little unknown person on.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
An X but that is exactly what we all needed
to hear.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
And I can't wait to hear what Lieutenant Colonel James
Carafano thinks tomorrow. Meanwhile, we'll hear what Secretary of State
Mark or Rubio thinks and our sounds of the day
next half. Our first things first, he says, fring hostages.
That's the top priority, number one.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Appearing on ABC's this Week, Rubio said the hostage release
has to happen very quickly in order for the rest
of the Peast deal to gain momentum. These comments come
as President Trump is sending special envoys to them add least,
to try and seal his hostage release deal. Both Israel
and Hamas have indicated support for the proposal, but with
conditions that still need to be negotiated.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
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We always say, always revealing, often entertaining. We got some revealing,
and boy do we end with some entertaining. Time for
your sounds of the day.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
All people who majored in online activision with a minor
and puberty bok, they're going a little bit.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Any of you in the media clearly missed the art
of the deal. Just before it's going to work out
all right. Thirty six minutes after the hour These are
your Sounds of the Day talking headshow. You have Marco
Rubio on Meet the Press laying out what he believes
are the two big phases of peace in the Middle East,
starting first with phase one.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
Is this now the end of the war in Gaza?
Speaker 8 (18:51):
Well, not yet, There's some work remains to be done,
and I would view it in two phases in terms
of understanding how to break this out.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
The first piece of it.
Speaker 8 (18:58):
Which was very clear from the letter and I'm also
responses they have agreed to the President's hostage release framework
and what needs to happen now and they acknowledge in
the letter and their responses. There now needs to be meetings,
which are occurring even as I speak to you now,
and hopefully we'll be finalized very quickly on the logistics
of that.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
What that means is, you.
Speaker 8 (19:15):
Know who goes in to get them as the Red Cross,
you know when do they show up, et cetera. You
know what place are they going to be, and the
conditions have to be created for that to happen. You know,
you can't have bombs going off and fighting going on
in the middle of the exchange.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
So that's piece one.
Speaker 8 (19:27):
The second and we want to see that happen as
soon as possible. All forty eight hostages, both living and deceased,
and there's some need to be released, and there's some
logistical challenges to that that will have to work through,
but that work is happening even as I speak to
you this very moment. The second part of it, it's
even harder, and that is the long term piece. What
happens after Israel pulls back to the Yellow line and
potentially beyond that, as this thing develops, how do you
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create this Palestinian technocratic leadership that's not hamas, that's not terrorists,
And with the help of the international community, how do
you disarm any sort of terrorist groups that are going
to be building tunnels and conducting attacks against Israel? How
do you get them to demobilize?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
All that work that's going to be hard.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
But that's critical because without that, you're not going to
have lasting peace. You may get the hostages back, you
may get a cessation of hostilities, but in the long
term it's going to happen all over again. So both
are going on at the same time. But priority number one,
the one that we think we can achieve something very
quickly on hopefully is the release of all of the
hostages in exchange for Israel moving.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
The yellow line, which is the disarming of a moss,
the abandoning of their ultimate goals, which is they don't
see Israel's right to exist, or America's or anyone else's.
There's only peace in Islam when you submit to Islam.
I think you can't lay it out better than Marco.
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That's the issue. One of my hopes early on was
that the president seemed to be forming some relationships in
the Muslim world and with Arab nations and that, and
then I know when he came out with his twenty
one point peace plan, one of those was a governing body.
Now the PLO of course is all for Hamas being gone,
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but you know we didn't have peace with the PLO
in charge. So you know, how do you get the
lasting piece. I think that's tricky. I mean, first things first,
you want to get the hostages back, closure for the families.
Israel will protect and secure itself. But if we can
take advantage of this moment and just stop this game
of insanity where we just reset and wait for it
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to happen again, I think that's the heavy, heavy lifting
they're trying to do, and we'll see if the President's
twenty one point peace plan can get us there. We'll
know more today. I can tell you this. If the
hostages aren't released rather quickly, you're going to see the
prosecution of the war really step up its efforts. This
was an interesting exchange with NBC Chief Foreign Affairs correspondent
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Andrea Mitchell talking about how heavy this lifting is and
if it should get done all the President definitely should
get a Nobel Peace Prize. Potentially this is such a
big deal.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
Look, if they get the hostages out, as the Secretary said,
that is the top priority.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
But then comes the hard part.
Speaker 9 (22:15):
You've got Hamas that has not agreed to disarm. You've
got Israel which has not set a timetable for withdrawal
and is now taking more land from Gaza in a
buffer zone than anyone had contemplated. So all of this
is to be negotiated. They are now in Egypt negotiating
Steve Whitcoff, Jared Kushner and talking to Hamas. Hamas is
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divided between the military and the political branches. But the
important thing is that Hamas is now really isolated the
Arab countries all came together in New York when they
were here for the UN meetings with the President.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
That is a huge factor.
Speaker 9 (22:52):
And partly that's because of Israel's biggest mistake, which was
to attack Hutter.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
This united the Arab world.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
It infuriated President Trump for the first time. We're seeing
President Trump really putting pressure in at Tan Yahoo to
stop the bombing. When he said that it was very significant.
So this could be transformational. And you know, if this
were to work out, and you know it was, it
would be the Abraham Accords, it would be recognition of Israel,
transform the whole region, and President Trump would deserve that
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Nobel Bride.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Wow. You know, yeah, but that's a lot to happen.
You know, at some point this weekend I was thinking
I would still take today over where we were in
the Biden administration. I mean, the Houthis have been all
but defeated, Hamas is decimated, Iran is reeling. I mean
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the hostage part. Can you imagine if it was your
daughter or mine, your son or mine, we wouldn't have
peace till they would return alive, or even if they
weren't alive, for closure and burial. I mean that's huge.
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Beyond that, I still take the situation we're in over
the situation you weren't alarmed of that we were in
a year or so ago. Israel is definitely safer, America
is definitely safer, and terrorism is definitely weaker. Now lasting
peace would be great to pray for and see come
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to fruition. There is something about Bill Maher, isn't there.
He just seems to get it more and more, and
the more he gets it and acknowledges that was once
liberal or progressive has now become radical insanity. And so
he's one of the most influential voices of the far left,
(24:58):
and he's not as far left as he used to be,
especially on this whole issue of false victimhood.
Speaker 10 (25:03):
Listen in the Barbie movie when she storms into the
Mattel boardroom, it's twelve people, all men, but Mattel is
a real company, and in twenty twenty three, their boardroom
is actually six men and five women. Perpetuating victimhood, especially
when it's false, is not a great advertisement for leadership.
Kamala Harris's new memoir of the twenty four election is
(25:24):
called one hundred and seven Days, but it should have
been called everyone sucks but me.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Van Jones clapping along.
Speaker 10 (25:38):
One hundred and seven days is a victims title, because,
get it, she only had one hundred and seven days
to win. Yeah, and a half a billion and a
half dollars and a built in army of about seventy
five million people who'd vote for any human adjacent life
form that wasn't Trump. But unding seven days, nothing is
(26:01):
ever Kamala's fault. Biden lets her down by not stepping
down sooner.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Poudy face emoji.
Speaker 10 (26:10):
Gavin Newsom, he was asked for his endorsement but texted hiking,
we'll call back.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
But then never did.
Speaker 10 (26:20):
And then he didn't even ask her to prom America
America itself. Let's Kamla down by not being ready for
the running mate she really wanted, Pete Boodhage Edge, so
she's stuck with the home Depot paint salesman.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
On the rest is her history. Poor poor Kamala.
Speaker 10 (26:42):
We made her the star of her rom com and
didn't even give her a gay best friend.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
And dismount on that one. This book's been a disaster
for her. First of all, her as a candidate is
always a disaster, So this was never going to play out.
She has clearly made the choice so far not to
run for governor in California, which is to suggest she
plans to run for president. The book plans to suggest
she's going to run for president. Keep in mind, she
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was the first one out in the primary, and Bernie
would have got that nomination if the DNC didn't interject
itself and cut a deal for Joe Biden. Then we
don't even know who served as president other than the
auto ped But it's official. This new crazy taken over
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far left Democrat party. You've lost Bill Maher and I
don't know who will find him in that party. Our
kam Jefferys got taken to task too. I'd meet the
press this weekend on NBC.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Listen, do you say this is a Republican shutdown, but
it's Democratic senators who are withholding their votes on what
is called a clean resolution that means no strings attached,
which is something, quite frankly, Leader, that you and other
Democrats have had catered for in the past.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Take a look.
Speaker 7 (28:02):
You do not use the threat of shutting down government
to try to advance your policy.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Nancy Pelosi, September thirtieth twenty thirteen agenda.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
First thing that the House has to do is pass
a clean six weeks star.
Speaker 11 (28:17):
A continuing resolution that is at the fiscal year twenty
twenty three levels.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Is the only way forward. So this was the standard.
Harry Reid came, Jeffries himself in November of twenty twenty three,
even Nancy Pelosi in twenty thirteen, and this is a
clean bill. It's just not like NBC to give one
(28:44):
of their own the Republican treatment. Let's see how he
handles it.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Why not fund the government and debate extending Obamacare tax
credits after the fact they don't expire to the end
of the year.
Speaker 11 (28:57):
What we've called for is a bipartisan the negotiation where
Democrats and Republicans can sit down in good faith, reopen
the government, pass the spending bill that actually improves the
quality of life for the American people in an environment
where the cost of living is already too high. Republicans
promise to lower costs. On day one, costs aren't going down,
They're going up. And if these Affordable Care Act text
(29:18):
credits are allowed to expire, premiums and healthcare costs are
going to skyrocket, and America is already too expensive for
the American people because of the Trump failed policies, the
Trump tariffs, and this will.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Make things worse.
Speaker 11 (29:33):
So we just want to bipartisan negotiation that addresses the
healthcare crisis at the same period of time with the
fierce urgency of Now.
Speaker 7 (29:41):
Let me ask you, because the administration has personally targeted
you as neither.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Didn't really get an answer, did you. I mean, one
is politicking, which you can do, and the people decide
on election day. The O there is your duty to
fund the government. They're going to continue to be a
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It's your morning show with Michael del Joanno.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I got this one, Chuck and Telsa. Michael, what do
you mean by an I letter I or eye? Is
an eyemall problem? And which is it? I? Meaning Israel?
That was a big problem for the Democrats, i e.
Their support for the anti sem Semitic movements at universities,
siding with terrorists over Israel and attacks and because they're
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far left will allow them to support See that socialist
element within the Democrat Party is also an islam meta element.
You're seeing that play out in the New York City
mirrors race. So whenever you hear me say, an eye
problem is a big problem for the Democrats because that's
where they started losing a lot of their Jewish base,
(33:14):
not as much as they should have, but a lot
of it. So I, as in the letter, I short
for Israel. But now we're seeing the same thing developing
in the far right being led by Tucker Carlson. So
will the Republican Party have an eye problem too? Time
will tell. All Right, we want peace in the Middle East, right,
that's what we're all praying for. First things, First, we
got to get hostages and then they're really heavy lifting.
(33:35):
How do we get Hamas out of that region? And
how do we get that region stable and governed in
the future. So this just doesn't go on repeat cycle. Well,
Roy doesn't have the answers anymore than I do. But
we do know what the news of the day is,
which is we start in Egypt.
Speaker 12 (33:52):
We do where President Trump's envoys de Witcoff and his
son in law Jared Kushner are meeting with Israeli and
Hamas leaders at least an indirect talks. As we heard
from Secretary of State Rubio on ABC's This Week, he
said that these talks are going to be logistical in nature,
talking in detail about all right, forty eight hostages, many dead,
(34:14):
some alive, how do we get them turned over to
Israeli teams in the coming days. And then at the
same time Israel will have to release hundreds of Palestinian prisoners.
How does that happen?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
When? Where, who drives the bus? All that stuff.
Speaker 12 (34:29):
So it's this logistical nightmare right now that they're trying
to settle, and to your point, get into those bigger
issues of you know, what will Gaza look like twenty
years from now, fifty years from now, how is it
going to be rebuilt? Who will control it? Those I
think are still unanswered questions.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
You mean, the rivier of the Middle East, as has
been talked about. I've always been a you know, I
think at some point you have three types of Muslims,
because you had three examples of Muhammad. If we can
get more, we in a ble Islamic leadership in that area,
you might for a period of time have peace. But
for political Islam and jihadis terrorist Islam, you never will.
(35:11):
And it starts with Hamas at some point Rory, though,
aren't we better off than we were a year ago?
I mean, at least the hoo Thies are beaten down.
Hamas is reeling, Iran is the can has been kicked
back for them. They've got a lot of rebuilding to do, so.
I mean the pressure's really on Hamas. I mean you
said this earlier. They are isolated, they're really out of
moves well.
Speaker 12 (35:33):
Right, and we were seeing a lot of pressure by
other countries in the region telling Hamas to take this deal,
essentially saying, look, take this deal.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
It's as good as it's going to get.
Speaker 12 (35:43):
And you know we're going to turn off the money'stigot
to the terrorist organization. That's the other sort of coded
message in this that once that money drives up, then
Hamas is really in trouble.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
All right. Lots of peace to pray for, a lot
of people trying to negotiate, peace to pray for. And
it all happens in Eat today. Great reporting, Rory, all right,
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Big talks in Egypt today as the pursuit of peace
over war begins with Hamas releasing hostages or else he
Judge's block Trump and the administration from sending members to
federalize the National Guard in the streets of Portland, and
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All right, if you're just waking up the Democrats, we
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talked about this a lot last year during the presidential campaign.
They had a big eye problem. Now they have a
division within their party problem justice socialist Democrats whose first
goal is to take over the party then dismantle the
Republic after getting rid of the electoral map. There also
(01:44):
is within that in Islam misted a portion and a
block that's coming to front and center in the New
York City mayor's race. So the problem was if the
Democrats wanted to stand by Israel, the far left of
their party wouldn't allow it. So they had an eye
Next thing you know, they're on the side of terrorists.
(02:05):
Is the Republican Party beginning to develop an eye problem
of its own, coming from the far rights, abandonment of
Israel as a Zionist state being led by Tucker Carlson
and endless wars. Chris Walker is a Republican consultant, and
there's no question that's taking place. It's mainly an online experience,
(02:26):
but could this become a party problem for Republicans moving forward?
Good morning, Chris.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Coom moaning, Michael, you know, I think so I'm seeing.
You know, I've said for a long time that Twitter
is in a real place, and you know, social media
needs to always be taken with a grain of salt.
But what I'm seeing are people of friends of mine
who are starting to echo some of these points that
are just absolutely wrong. Whether it's you know, Israel has
(02:54):
started this war, or you know, don't have the right
to defend themselves, or are the arche tact of so
many negative things. Israel's behind nine to eleven. It's just like,
oh my gosh, like there's a lot of Israel's behind eleven.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I think ultimately they're going to tell you that Israel's
behind the assassination of Charlie Kirk. There's no end to it,
and of course, disconnect the old Covenant from the New Covenant,
and you know, and this is not the Israel of
God's people, and God's People don't exist anymore. All of that.
I mean, it's a big but it's terrifying in that
it might be becoming real. It is and it.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Is and it's you know, these are people that I listened.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
To it a cocktail party, you know, telling me, hey,
you know, like why aren't these questions being answered or whatever.
It's like, well, this isn't because they're not they're not
thoughtful questions. You know, Israel was attacked on October seventh,
twenty twenty three, in a vicious and brutal way that
has exacerbated a problem that has been existing since Israel
(03:56):
was created in the nineteen forties. And you know, this
is a front door to global terrorism that Israel fights
every day. And the idea that somehow we are on
the wrong side of not supporting them, you know, it's
crazy and I mean we people seem to forget what
happened in our country, you know in two thousand and one.
(04:17):
People seem to forget that. You know, there's an entire
the hottest empire and globalize the intifaught it something that's
being said regularly. We know what that means.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
And you know, there's a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Wanting to take that side because they're being you know,
they're looking at pictures that are being manipulated from from
you know, Hamas and saying, oh my gosh, this is
in this terrible Well, yeah, they shouldn't have started a
war with Israel in the process of doing that, and
you know.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
This is this is what we're seeing out of that.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
All right. So when people ask me, first of all,
I it's not possible to sway or budge me because
I look at it primarily from a biblical standpoint. Uh.
If you're honest and look at it from a historical standpoint,
you should come to the same conclusion. What are they
building on pure emotion? Pure I mean, what are they
(05:07):
building their case.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
On, you know, which is crazy?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I mean we we saw specifically Trump's making Netanyahu call
the Prime Minister of Katar to apologize for an attack.
I mean, it's not like this is a you know,
one sided relationship. I mean you had Tucker's team going
out there saying that, you know, Israeli general you know,
ran the Pentagon absurd on its face. You know, there
(05:38):
are there are I mean, I hate to say it,
but there are untruthful people with inside the Trump administration
that are pushing narratives to Tucker and others that are
just un you know, unhelpful towards an alliance. There is
a growing concern within the Republican Party of some of
these folks who do not have Israel a list does
and ally, but as an enemy, and that is a
(06:00):
really negative and bad thing. Israel is the only elected
democracy in the Middle East. They stand at the forefront
of an entirely fossile region that's hostile to the democratic
ideals and Judeo Christian values. And you know, this is
something that is incredibly important to not only the security
of the Middle East and you know, global stability, but
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of our security and stability. And you know, the idea
that somehow that's not going to be a problem by
upending it is is abduced to history.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Is it two separate issues? Should Christian believers in America
abandon Israel and should America abandon Israel? I don't know
which is more terrifying.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Well, you know, the the.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Israeli government is not Judaism, correct, So you know, I mean,
in some regards, it's like any elected government. You can
have disagreements to policy.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
You could be I mean, you could disagree with how.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Nat Nyahu is conducting the post October seventh War if
you want to. I mean, there's nothing wrong with that,
per se.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
But what my.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Concern is it's becoming not an Israeli attack, but attack
on Judaism and turning into an anti Semitic rhetoric that
is historically incredibly dangerous. And so you know, that's.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Where we're turning into.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
And again we're talking about Tucker. I mean, here's a
guy who you know, just constantly, recklessly talks about the
Jewish people and linking them with you know, the negativity
of what they see what he sees in.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
That Yahoo and you know, kind of washes his.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Hands of it and says, oh, well, I'm just I'm
just asking questions. No, you're you're you're platforming people who
are literally, you know, taking the side of a calling
you know, Winston Churchill a bad guy of World War Two?
What is he trying to actually say with that? He's
trying to platform people and normalize people who have rightfully
(07:57):
been you know, on the wrong side history and should
continue to do so.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
So let's not pretend that Tucker is they're ignoring.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
What they're ignoring. What they're ignoring is these radical Islamists
don't see Israel's right to exist number one. Number two,
they don't see our right to exist, and first come
Saturday Israel, then comes Sunday, the great Satan America. I
suspect if we had a major terrorist attack in America
and I'm beginning to think one's eminent, Uh, they would
(08:28):
turn right around and blame that on Israel and President
Trump and ignore thousands of years hideaths and Surah's. You know,
it's just a complete lack of understanding of Islam. Sure,
it's a religion of peace as long as you surrender
(08:48):
to them otherwise, right, Uh, it's a relentless onslaught of violence.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
So but all right, so a lot of response to
President Trump's you know plan, I'm trying to the war
and I also has accepted with conditions. Well, well, no
that's not you guys are the aggressors here.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
You guys are the.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Ones that are doing that. And let's let's not forget that.
You know, they continue to hold hostages, they continue to
count their numbers based on civilian casualties rather than you know,
kind of actual you know, combatant casualties. And so this
is this is not a fair situation in which they
abide by normal rules of international diplomacy and law. And
(09:30):
because they don't want it. They want a calivate and
that's a bigger that is not something that is congruent
with you Christian values in Western you know, democracies.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
We would hope not. It might be with some Ivy
League universities. Chris Walker, Republican Consultant Analysts, is joining us
for our All Things Republican Monday conversation. All right, so
let's keep in mind although Barack Obama had his moments
for eight years, we don't even know who was running
the Biden administration. Things are pretty unfriendly for America and Israel. Now,
(10:03):
you had in between the four year first term of
Donald Trump and now the second term of Donald Trump.
If the Democrats should rally and get the White House back,
if this whole Charlie Kirk thing that rises up to
be a self proclaimed revival that turns anti Semitic from
these same people that are trying to turn the Republican
Party against Israel, you could wake up a lot quicker
(10:27):
than you think with an American abandonment of Israel. Now,
I'm reminded of old Testament scriptures like I will bless
those who bless her, curse those who curser mistakes just
got a whole lot higher. So, but how does this
all play out beginning in the mid term and not
so much the midterms. I really think this one is
a twenty twenty eight issue. But if not resolved, you'll
(10:48):
have two major parties both failing and both abandoning Israel.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Well, you know, that's time for a third party then
in that regards, that's what happens. But that's all. That's
a whole other conversation or at least a you know,
a disillusion of both of the parties at some level
of both of them reject Israel. You know, that is
a that is a recipe for domestic upheaval because it is, uh,
(11:17):
it is such an important piece of cultural and you know,
international security that any type of kind of movement in
that direction, that just just scares me. For you know,
what is what has been a relatively you know, peaceful
existence outside of you know, obviously the things the things
(11:37):
that God's are table Like, this isn't a you know,
you can't look at that and say, oh, my goodness,
like that's fine.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
But let's not forget that Israel wants to just exist
and their neighbors want.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
To destroy them.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
So Israel's response to attacks is a righteous cause, and
you know, conflating that and turning that into an unrighte
pause is a very very concerning issue. So I think
from our country standpoint, you know, we shapp to back Israel.
President Trump has been set stalwart on that and he
continues to do so because he knows what it's about.
(12:11):
I mean, let's not forget over the summer, there are
a lot of people that didn't want him to, you know,
attack a ringy nuclear facilities, and you know that's a
that's a big part of our national security as well.
That President Trump he fully understands because he gets the
intelligence preepings. There's a lot of people that don't and
don't understand that.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I suspect President Trump thinks the best way to resolve
this issue. I don't think he really cares about divisions
within the Republican Party because he's really a party in
and of himself. But I think he thinks it will
ultimately resolve when he brings peace. But peace may not happen.
It hasn't happened for a long time. Uh should the administration,
(12:50):
probably through Marco Rubio, might be their best voice, begin
to educate not just the American people but their party
on who's the good side and the bad side, and
maybe even take this as a teachable moment historically to
kind of set this record straight and offset Otherwise, I
think you're going to see movements within the far right
(13:11):
of the Republican Party, led by way of X, you know,
continue to to beat this drum.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, I think that's right, But I would I would
go further than.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
The Secretary of State.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
This is a cultural moment that needs cultural solutions. You know, television, churches,
you know, organizations, you know, anybody who's looking at them,
at their community and saying, hey, we care about this
place needs to understand the importance Israel's part of it.
(13:46):
And so I would say beyond just Marco Rubio, I agree,
and we have a huge educational dirst that needs to
be filled because that's how that's how far gone a
lot of these kids have become getting their news from
tech talk and social media. So you know, let's look
at the good time of the bat side.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
This has been tried.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I mean two thousand, Arrol Sharon literally tried to give
everything to Yas for AIRFAE and the also AIRFOT told
him to go to Hell. I mean, there is not.
It's very hard to negotiate with a group that wants
you destroyed, and if that's their position from the beginning,
it's very hard to negotiate. So I think President Trump's
going to find a very hard you know road here,
and you know y'a who's said as much in President
(14:27):
I think, especially with that because he does want to
see a deal. But I think you're talking about millennia
of cultural issues that you know, don't just get solved
because of a president who's in the White House.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Hopefully that is.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
What happens, but it's going to be an ongoing issue.
A moficor not want is real to exist, No.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I know, Andrew and I were blessed to be a
world outreach yesterday with Pastor around and Jackson one of
the few who really gets it, has the courage to
say it and lay it out in the balanced way.
It should be much as you have today. We'll see
how this plays out, but it is a brewing, that's
for sure.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
This is your morning show with Michael del Chno.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Good morning, Michael del Journal.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Thank you so much for what Chris Walker and his
analysis brought to everybody today because that is exactly the
message I've been trying to share with the world.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
But I'm only a little unknown person on.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
An X but that is exactly what we all needed
to hear.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
And I can't wait to hear what Lieutenant Colonel James
Carafano thinks tomorrow. Meanwhile, we'll hear what Secretary of State
Mark or Rubio thinks and our sounds of the day
next half. Our first things first, he says, fring hostages.
That's the top priority, number one.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Appearing on ABC's this Week, Rubio said the hostage release
has to happen very quickly in order for the rest
of the Peast deal to gain momentum. These comments come
as President Trump is sending special envoys to them add least,
to try and seal his hostage release deal. Both Israel
and Hamas have indicated support for the proposal, but with
conditions that still need to be negotiated.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Democrats will meet virtually today to discuss the ongoing government
shut down. Meanwhile, a judge has blocked the Trump administration
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We always say, always revealing, often entertaining. We got some revealing,
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your sounds of the day.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
All people who majored in online activision with a minor
and puberty bok, they're going a little bit.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Any of you in the media clearly missed the art
of the deal. Just before it's going to work out
all right. Thirty six minutes after the hour These are
your Sounds of the Day talking headshow. You have Marco
Rubio on Meet the Press laying out what he believes
are the two big phases of peace in the Middle East,
starting first with phase one.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
Is this now the end of the war in Gaza?
Speaker 8 (18:51):
Well, not yet, There's some work remains to be done,
and I would view it in two phases in terms
of understanding how to break this out.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
The first piece of it.
Speaker 8 (18:58):
Which was very clear from the letter and I'm also
responses they have agreed to the President's hostage release framework
and what needs to happen now and they acknowledge in
the letter and their responses. There now needs to be meetings,
which are occurring even as I speak to you now,
and hopefully we'll be finalized very quickly on the logistics
of that.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
What that means is, you.
Speaker 8 (19:15):
Know who goes in to get them as the Red Cross,
you know when do they show up, et cetera. You
know what place are they going to be, and the
conditions have to be created for that to happen. You know,
you can't have bombs going off and fighting going on
in the middle of the exchange.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
So that's piece one.
Speaker 8 (19:27):
The second and we want to see that happen as
soon as possible. All forty eight hostages, both living and deceased,
and there's some need to be released, and there's some
logistical challenges to that that will have to work through,
but that work is happening even as I speak to
you this very moment. The second part of it, it's
even harder, and that is the long term piece. What
happens after Israel pulls back to the Yellow line and
potentially beyond that, as this thing develops, how do you
(19:50):
create this Palestinian technocratic leadership that's not hamas, that's not terrorists,
And with the help of the international community, how do
you disarm any sort of terrorist groups that are going
to be building tunnels and conducting attacks against Israel? How
do you get them to demobilize?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
All that work that's going to be hard.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
But that's critical because without that, you're not going to
have lasting peace. You may get the hostages back, you
may get a cessation of hostilities, but in the long
term it's going to happen all over again. So both
are going on at the same time. But priority number one,
the one that we think we can achieve something very
quickly on hopefully is the release of all of the
hostages in exchange for Israel moving.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
The yellow line, which is the disarming of a moss,
the abandoning of their ultimate goals, which is they don't
see Israel's right to exist, or America's or anyone else's.
There's only peace in Islam when you submit to Islam.
I think you can't lay it out better than Marco.
(20:50):
That's the issue. One of my hopes early on was
that the president seemed to be forming some relationships in
the Muslim world and with Arab nations and that, and
then I know when he came out with his twenty
one point peace plan, one of those was a governing body.
Now the PLO of course is all for Hamas being gone,
(21:11):
but you know we didn't have peace with the PLO
in charge. So you know, how do you get the
lasting piece. I think that's tricky. I mean, first things first,
you want to get the hostages back, closure for the families.
Israel will protect and secure itself. But if we can
take advantage of this moment and just stop this game
of insanity where we just reset and wait for it
(21:34):
to happen again, I think that's the heavy, heavy lifting
they're trying to do, and we'll see if the President's
twenty one point peace plan can get us there. We'll
know more today. I can tell you this. If the
hostages aren't released rather quickly, you're going to see the
prosecution of the war really step up its efforts. This
was an interesting exchange with NBC Chief Foreign Affairs correspondent
(21:56):
Andrea Mitchell talking about how heavy this lifting is and
if it should get done all the President definitely should
get a Nobel Peace Prize. Potentially this is such a
big deal.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
Look, if they get the hostages out, as the Secretary said,
that is the top priority.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
But then comes the hard part.
Speaker 9 (22:15):
You've got Hamas that has not agreed to disarm. You've
got Israel which has not set a timetable for withdrawal
and is now taking more land from Gaza in a
buffer zone than anyone had contemplated. So all of this
is to be negotiated. They are now in Egypt negotiating
Steve Whitcoff, Jared Kushner and talking to Hamas. Hamas is
(22:39):
divided between the military and the political branches. But the
important thing is that Hamas is now really isolated the
Arab countries all came together in New York when they
were here for the UN meetings with the President.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
That is a huge factor.
Speaker 9 (22:52):
And partly that's because of Israel's biggest mistake, which was
to attack Hutter.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
This united the Arab world.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
It infuriated President Trump for the first time. We're seeing
President Trump really putting pressure in at Tan Yahoo to
stop the bombing. When he said that it was very significant.
So this could be transformational. And you know, if this
were to work out, and you know it was, it
would be the Abraham Accords, it would be recognition of Israel,
transform the whole region, and President Trump would deserve that
(23:21):
Nobel Bride.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Wow. You know, yeah, but that's a lot to happen.
You know, at some point this weekend I was thinking
I would still take today over where we were in
the Biden administration. I mean, the Houthis have been all
but defeated, Hamas is decimated, Iran is reeling. I mean
(23:48):
the hostage part. Can you imagine if it was your
daughter or mine, your son or mine, we wouldn't have
peace till they would return alive, or even if they
weren't alive, for closure and burial. I mean that's huge.
(24:10):
Beyond that, I still take the situation we're in over
the situation you weren't alarmed of that we were in
a year or so ago. Israel is definitely safer, America
is definitely safer, and terrorism is definitely weaker. Now lasting
peace would be great to pray for and see come
(24:33):
to fruition. There is something about Bill Maher, isn't there.
He just seems to get it more and more, and
the more he gets it and acknowledges that was once
liberal or progressive has now become radical insanity. And so
he's one of the most influential voices of the far left,
(24:58):
and he's not as far left as he used to be,
especially on this whole issue of false victimhood.
Speaker 10 (25:03):
Listen in the Barbie movie when she storms into the
Mattel boardroom, it's twelve people, all men, but Mattel is
a real company, and in twenty twenty three, their boardroom
is actually six men and five women. Perpetuating victimhood, especially
when it's false, is not a great advertisement for leadership.
Kamala Harris's new memoir of the twenty four election is
(25:24):
called one hundred and seven Days, but it should have
been called everyone sucks but me.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Van Jones clapping along.
Speaker 10 (25:38):
One hundred and seven days is a victims title, because,
get it, she only had one hundred and seven days
to win. Yeah, and a half a billion and a
half dollars and a built in army of about seventy
five million people who'd vote for any human adjacent life
form that wasn't Trump. But unding seven days, nothing is
(26:01):
ever Kamala's fault. Biden lets her down by not stepping
down sooner.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Poudy face emoji.
Speaker 10 (26:10):
Gavin Newsom, he was asked for his endorsement but texted hiking,
we'll call back.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
But then never did.
Speaker 10 (26:20):
And then he didn't even ask her to prom America
America itself. Let's Kamla down by not being ready for
the running mate she really wanted, Pete Boodhage Edge, so
she's stuck with the home Depot paint salesman.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
On the rest is her history. Poor poor Kamala.
Speaker 10 (26:42):
We made her the star of her rom com and
didn't even give her a gay best friend.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
And dismount on that one. This book's been a disaster
for her. First of all, her as a candidate is
always a disaster, So this was never going to play out.
She has clearly made the choice so far not to
run for governor in California, which is to suggest she
plans to run for president. The book plans to suggest
she's going to run for president. Keep in mind, she
(27:07):
was the first one out in the primary, and Bernie
would have got that nomination if the DNC didn't interject
itself and cut a deal for Joe Biden. Then we
don't even know who served as president other than the
auto ped But it's official. This new crazy taken over
(27:33):
far left Democrat party. You've lost Bill Maher and I
don't know who will find him in that party. Our
kam Jefferys got taken to task too. I'd meet the
press this weekend on NBC.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Listen, do you say this is a Republican shutdown, but
it's Democratic senators who are withholding their votes on what
is called a clean resolution that means no strings attached,
which is something, quite frankly, Leader, that you and other
Democrats have had catered for in the past.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Take a look.
Speaker 7 (28:02):
You do not use the threat of shutting down government
to try to advance your policy.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Nancy Pelosi, September thirtieth twenty thirteen agenda.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
First thing that the House has to do is pass
a clean six weeks star.
Speaker 11 (28:17):
A continuing resolution that is at the fiscal year twenty
twenty three levels.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Is the only way forward. So this was the standard.
Harry Reid came, Jeffries himself in November of twenty twenty three,
even Nancy Pelosi in twenty thirteen, and this is a
clean bill. It's just not like NBC to give one
(28:44):
of their own the Republican treatment. Let's see how he
handles it.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Why not fund the government and debate extending Obamacare tax
credits after the fact they don't expire to the end
of the year.
Speaker 11 (28:57):
What we've called for is a bipartisan the negotiation where
Democrats and Republicans can sit down in good faith, reopen
the government, pass the spending bill that actually improves the
quality of life for the American people in an environment
where the cost of living is already too high. Republicans
promise to lower costs. On day one, costs aren't going down,
They're going up. And if these Affordable Care Act text
(29:18):
credits are allowed to expire, premiums and healthcare costs are
going to skyrocket, and America is already too expensive for
the American people because of the Trump failed policies, the
Trump tariffs, and this will.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Make things worse.
Speaker 11 (29:33):
So we just want to bipartisan negotiation that addresses the
healthcare crisis at the same period of time with the
fierce urgency of Now.
Speaker 7 (29:41):
Let me ask you, because the administration has personally targeted
you as neither.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Didn't really get an answer, did you. I mean, one
is politicking, which you can do, and the people decide
on election day. The O there is your duty to
fund the government. They're going to continue to be a
party of obstruction, not opposition. Favorite sound of the day.
(30:12):
I mean, this is my kind of woman. This is
my kind of driver. This is an actual elderly woman
pulled over by the police for going one hundred and
twelve miles an hour. Listen, ma'am, op to you for speeding.
You were going one hundred and twelve.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
Fine back there said one twelve.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
That is highway one twelve, not the speed limits on.
The man must stops you for speeding. You were going
one hundred and twelve.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
That's in the Cardoon Networks lunch lobbery R.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I love the Democrat. This is like a gold stall
in a past.
Speaker 11 (30:48):
You should have a government that just minds its own
damn business and leaves people alone.
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Speaker 2 (32:25):
It's your morning show with Michael del Joanno.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I got this one, Chuck and Telsa. Michael, what do
you mean by an I letter I or eye? Is
an eyemall problem? And which is it? I? Meaning Israel?
That was a big problem for the Democrats, i e.
Their support for the anti sem Semitic movements at universities,
siding with terrorists over Israel and attacks and because they're
(32:52):
far left will allow them to support See that socialist
element within the Democrat Party is also an islam meta element.
You're seeing that play out in the New York City
mirrors race. So whenever you hear me say, an eye
problem is a big problem for the Democrats because that's
where they started losing a lot of their Jewish base,
(33:14):
not as much as they should have, but a lot
of it. So I, as in the letter, I short
for Israel. But now we're seeing the same thing developing
in the far right being led by Tucker Carlson. So
will the Republican Party have an eye problem too? Time
will tell. All Right, we want peace in the Middle East, right,
that's what we're all praying for. First things, First, we
got to get hostages and then they're really heavy lifting.
(33:35):
How do we get Hamas out of that region? And
how do we get that region stable and governed in
the future. So this just doesn't go on repeat cycle. Well,
Roy doesn't have the answers anymore than I do. But
we do know what the news of the day is,
which is we start in Egypt.
Speaker 12 (33:52):
We do where President Trump's envoys de Witcoff and his
son in law Jared Kushner are meeting with Israeli and
Hamas leaders at least an indirect talks. As we heard
from Secretary of State Rubio on ABC's This Week, he
said that these talks are going to be logistical in nature,
talking in detail about all right, forty eight hostages, many dead,
(34:14):
some alive, how do we get them turned over to
Israeli teams in the coming days. And then at the
same time Israel will have to release hundreds of Palestinian prisoners.
How does that happen?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
When? Where, who drives the bus? All that stuff.
Speaker 12 (34:29):
So it's this logistical nightmare right now that they're trying
to settle, and to your point, get into those bigger
issues of you know, what will Gaza look like twenty
years from now, fifty years from now, how is it
going to be rebuilt? Who will control it? Those I
think are still unanswered questions.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
You mean, the rivier of the Middle East, as has
been talked about. I've always been a you know, I
think at some point you have three types of Muslims,
because you had three examples of Muhammad. If we can
get more, we in a ble Islamic leadership in that area,
you might for a period of time have peace. But
for political Islam and jihadis terrorist Islam, you never will.
(35:11):
And it starts with Hamas at some point Rory, though,
aren't we better off than we were a year ago?
I mean, at least the hoo Thies are beaten down.
Hamas is reeling, Iran is the can has been kicked
back for them. They've got a lot of rebuilding to do, so.
I mean the pressure's really on Hamas. I mean you
said this earlier. They are isolated, they're really out of
moves well.
Speaker 12 (35:33):
Right, and we were seeing a lot of pressure by
other countries in the region telling Hamas to take this deal,
essentially saying, look, take this deal.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
It's as good as it's going to get.
Speaker 12 (35:43):
And you know we're going to turn off the money'stigot
to the terrorist organization. That's the other sort of coded
message in this that once that money drives up, then
Hamas is really in trouble.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
All right. Lots of peace to pray for, a lot
of people trying to negotiate, peace to pray for. And
it all happens in Eat today. Great reporting, Rory, all right,
one chance to live this Monday, October sixth. Here's what
you can control. Go make a difference in someone's life.
Cherish every moment of yours, and we'll see you back
here tomorrow. Morning for the next your Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
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