October 9, 2025 • 35 mins
The price of gold is soaring at the same time that people are putting off major purchases. Meanwhile, not as many people are planning to travel for the holidays, but if you do go to a Disney Park, it will now cost more than $200 for a one-day peak ticket. National Correspondent RORY O’NEILL will look at how the cost of many things is going up – and how Americans are responding.
The Declaration of Independence 250 years later. Our founders got it right; do we today? Senior contributor David Zanotti starts with the war to define our declaration and the first shots fired by The Atlantic.
An Uber driver has been arrested in Florida, charged with starting the Pacific Palisades fire earlier this year that killed 12 people and destroyed thousands of homes. National Correspondent JAYSON CAMPADONIA is in Los Angeles and will discuss the nine-month investigation that led to an arrest in one of the most destructive fires in American history.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:40):
John Oh, I think we got busted. I think Mary
heard us talking about her.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Good morning, Michael.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
With all due respect to the adorable breed Tennis, I
don't think the leif ericson day is going to catch on.
I cannot see myself eating grapes and ludafisk today. I'm
going to wait till Monday for my men. I go
my gbagool and I takes it a for Columbus Day
and by the way, yes, for clarification, I live in
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Idaho and listen to KSTE and Sacramento through the app.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
All right, so it's obvious all my listeners have a
crush on Mary. I want her to be the fill
in host. But now she's talking Italian gotsid. I don't
know what to say. I'm my breath is taken away.
We've got a great, great day of news today, so
very similar to nine to eleven at the schoolhouse, Marco
(01:32):
Rubiu leans down and whispers into the president's here and
hands him a piece of paper, and that's when we
all find out that we have a piece deal. Later,
pictures would come out of Israeli and Hamas officials shaking
on it. It should be signed today. All hostages should
be released within seventy two hours. Israel will pull back
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it's troops to an agree uponline and we'll give this
a whirl at peace in the Middle East. I said,
if this could lead to somehow an end of the
Russian Ukraine War by the end of the year, this
will be very reminiscent of nineteen sixty eight. It could
save the year. After all, a twenty nine year old
turns out to be behind bars in connection was starting
(02:15):
the deadly and destructive Palisades fire. Twelve lives and one
hundred and fifty billion dollars later, it's an uber driver
who didn't like his life. Pope Leo urging US bishops
to address President Trump's immigration crackdown, and the Senate failed
to advance two measures aimed at putting an end to
the partial government shutdown, So it continues in today nine
(02:37):
Roy O'Neil is our national correspondent and he joins US
President Trump. Israel and Hamas it's announced, have the framework
for peace.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
What's left is does he.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Get a peace prize and does he go to Israel
and deliver a speech to the Israeli government.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Lots to leave or Egypt or somewhere in the Middle
East for a trip this weekend for the President. I
know he's got the leader of Finland at the White
House today. He's got his medical check up tomorrow, but
he is expected to travel to the region sometime this weekend,
saying to Sean Hannity last night that he expects the
forty eight hostages to be free by Monday or perhaps before,
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but they're also going to be nearly two thousand Palestinians
released by Israeli officials as part of this exchange. So
there's still a lot to coordinate, but this, I guess
stage one, phase one.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So far everyone seems to be pretty optimistic.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
It's interesting, Rory, you say phase one, The president said,
phase one, Phase one, Phase two was kind of laid
out in the talking head shows by Marco Rubio. Phase
one being the immediate and in the long run, the simpler.
We stop shooting each other, we release hostages, we withdraw troops,
and that would start I guess today with the signing
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and then seventy two hours to release the hostages would
trigger the line that Israel will pull its troops back.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Phase two.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
That's where we get to the lasting piece, and that's
where're going to get to tough things like will Hamas
people who claim to disarm be able to remain in
the area because lasting piece is hinged upon radical Islam
not having a place of control.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
So this is just phase one, right, And if you're
releasing nineteen hundred members of Hamas right by Israeli forces,
including many who are serving life sentences, are they less
radicalized after spending time in prison in Israel? And are
they willing to abide by these terms, lay down their
weapons and live in harmony. That's something that's that's going
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to be difficult to see long term. You know, obviously
there's a lot of hope that this can happen, but
a lot is still clear. I think everyone is just
optimistic we can get to Monday. Israel agreed already to
a ceasefire on their side, so let's see if we
can get to the hostage release next.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
As the next steps here.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Well, what's the old song on foot in front of
the there? But this is really more of a ceasefire
a hostage release than it is lasting piece at this point.
And I imagine I said this earlier when I was alone.
I know you need to run, but I don't think
the president is doing this for a Nobel Peace Prize.
I think he's doing this for lasting piece, and he
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knows how much further there is to go.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
But this is a good.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Start, and it's a start many people don't think was coming,
not this soon. Worry's gonna be back in the third hour.
We'll get you more of an update on the signing
later today, as well as the government shutdown, which is
this day nine now I can tell you this from
just playing you a brief little piece of audio. I
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don't think a resolution is coming any time soon. This
is representative Mike Lawler confronting in the hallway Jakim Jeffries
and doesn't sound like they're any closer to an agreement.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Are you against that? You're embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
You want to you want to cut the standard deduction
and go all as medicaid and voted fraud and abuse.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
By the vot of New York.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Ask your question pointed out that one point two billion
dollars wasteless.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
You're not wasted. You're not gonna waste. You're not gonna
talk wasted. I'm going to talk to me on and
talk because you don't. You know, it's amazing, David.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
We can we can get at least the framework and
the momentum towards peace in the Middle East, but we
can't get two partisan parties to even have a conversation
and listen to each other. Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Something is broken home too, Yeah, seriously broken.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I I know this is big for you, and it's
big for the president too. America is getting ready to
celebrate its two hundred and fiftieth birthday.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
It seems like yesterday. I was in Arlington Heights. It
was nineteen seventy six, It was by Centennial, and we
all went to Rolling Metals High School for the fireworks,
and it was an extraordinary celebration of America turning two hundred.
I think at that time I was twelve years old,
eleven twelve years old. I'd been eleven, still not quite twelve.
I didn't know anything about our two hundred year history.
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I didn't anything about our founding fathers. I just knew
i'd live somewhere that turned two hundred, and that was
exciting enough. Two hundred and fifty seems like there's a
lot at stake, and in our inabilities to get on
the same rail and be American and understand our founders
and our intent and our documents. It would suggest that
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at two hundred and fifty be a good time to
go back to that Declaration of Independence and get in
tune with it. So the founders certainly got it, they
wrote it. Do we today? And perhaps there's going to
be a battle to see who can own the declaration and.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
What it really means and really meant.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
And maybe the Atlantic shot the first bullets of this
who's going to control the message of the Declaration of
Independence at two hundred and fifty years old.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Yeah, it's unfortunate, Michael, that we don't have the unified
approach as a country to reality that we shared over
different periods of time in our history. But what's interesting
is that we've got this two hundred and fiftieth celebration
coming up, and most people are saying, Okay, whatever, Fourth
of July, there'll be more fireworks, and for a large
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amount of people it'll be just that simple. It'll just
be okay, big deal, new decorations. But in the places
where opinions are taught and worldviews are shaped and formed,
whether we're talking about churches or around dining room tables
or in universities, colleges, schools, there is an attempt and
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there will be an attempt to get a hold of
this issue and to use it as a teachable moment.
We're doing it at the American Policy Roundtable in the
public square, and so are all other kinds of media
and research organizations, and not the least of which is
the vanguard of the progressive movement, which is The Atlantic magazine.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I got an email. I got an email from Jeffrey
Goldberg himself yesterday, the editor in chief, featuring this story.
I mean, he wasn't even going to wait for me
to go to the website to read it. He wanted
to make sure it came in my email. Do you
want to do something free?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah? Yeah, free because.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Normally you have to pay, so well, I, in all fairness,
I don't know if I I do pay because I
have to keep an eye on what they're saying. As
you mentioned, Uh, they informed the intelligentsia. They inform Comcast
and Disney and the news networks. So if I want
to know what's coming narrative wise, I always start at
the Atlantic. But do you want to do them first
(09:35):
or you? Because I think it's no, I'm just gonna say.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Oh no.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
But he's basically laying out and taking his claim to yes,
the declaration and yes, here's what the declaration means. And
then we'll compare it to what you say is, oh, yes,
he's on the right thing. He's on the document.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
Well, actually he's not. That's the whole point. The subtitle
of his email is it starts off with the American Experiment.
That's his title, and the subtitle is a two fifty.
The revolution's goals remain noble and indispensable. They don't talk
about the declaration. They talk about the revolution. That may
seem subtle, but it's not. It's substantive. They do not
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want people reading the words of the declaration. They want
people talking about the work of the revolution. And the
Atlantic has started early. They've even gone out that same
email you and I both read is basically the Atlantic
is worried that their view of this is going to
get overwhelmed by other media sources, and so they want
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people now to understand it's all about They've partner with
ken Burns and PBS. The documentary series is all about
the revolution now, the war for independence, and many people
will in regards to the political philosophy, would tell you
is not a revolution. But we're not going to get
into that fine point right now. The point is they
don't want to talk about the document They want to
talk about the war. That's a very big difference. I'd
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be like saying we're going to talk about World War two,
and we're just going to talk about the three major
battles of World War Two. We're not going to talk
about the Axis powers versus the allied powers and basically
the human liberty was at risk.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
It's interesting because the subtitle on my email, or the
introduction of my email is is it's from Jeffrey Goldberg,
and it says, introducing the Unfinished Revolution.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Well, which of course is the mantra of socialism, is
that the endless struggle between class and class warfare will
never be resolved. And so this is all being recast
in progressive language. Now, we could say mister Goldberg is
not smart enough to know the language that he's using,
and he's just stumbled into it because that's what he
is reading online these days.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
No, no, no, that, Yeah, he's set in the narrative. Yeah,
they really are.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
And they're setting the narrative away from the declaration because
the words of the declaration are dangerous words in a
progressive world, because they speak about the consent of the government,
the power of the individual, the importance of a personal conscience,
and four times the Declaration of Independence mentions God nowhere
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mentioned in that entire Atlantic publication. By the way, right
now i'm reading through the articles, you won't find much
of any of that conversation whatsoever. They're shifting the narrative
and they're starting early because they know they're already behind.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
He says in one paragraph, the Atlantic does not make
the mistake of downplaying the declaration or the events of
seventeen seventy six. You will see that we are not
simplistic or uncritical in our approach, but we are indeed
motivated by the idea that the American Revolution represents one
of the most important events in the history of the planet,
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and its ideals continue to symbolize hope and freedom for mankind.
And in that he pivots from the document and you're right,
never touches it and starts rolling out what's coming in
a six part PBS broadcast documentary, and the perill that
documents over there.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
Fading underneath that plastic Oh, we're.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Not under playing, but and that document's not going to
come up in this documentary either.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
No.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
And one other thing that's really important to know, Michael,
is their approach on this is two ways to look
at history. You can either look at it from where
we are today and judgmentally critique what happened based upon
your current worldview. That's the approach of the Atlantic, or
you can go one hundred years behind the events and
learn the world that the people who were born inherited
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as children, and then ask yourself what did they do
with what they were handed. That's real history, that's reality
in space and time. The Atlantic is clearly taking the
post effect. In other words, we're here, they're wrong, let's
fix them in our an area.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Why are they so afraid?
Speaker 3 (13:56):
I mean, if I would, I would not want to
take this year to tell everyone how to think, what
our founding fathers were thinking, or what their intent was.
If I could have one goal, one dream come true,
it's that everyone would just read the document, even if
you read it once a week. That would be the
true because you can read it and understand it for yourself.
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But obviously we live in a very polarized time, and
the other side they're going to acknowledge the document exists
and pivot the conversation completely away from it without even
uttering a word of it. That's the battle that we're in,
and the first shots have been fired and the first
signal of where they're headed with their narrative. The necessity
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of the endless revolution is where they're headed, not our intent,
which makes us so unique to the world fighting certainly
not unique, all right? Why Are they afraid of the words?
Why don't they want you to read them? David Sanati
has more when we come.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Back This is Your Morning Show with Michael del Chino.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
The President says Israel and Hamas have agreed to a
peace deal should be signed today. An uber driver turns
out to be the starter of the Palisades fire, or
so he's accused and arrested. We'll have more with Jason
Campedonia on that in moments from now. We're rapid things
up with David Sanadi. All right, so here we come,
two hundred and fifty years old. Don't look at our
founding document. What is in that document you want people
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so desperately to read, and what is it the Atlantic
doesn't want them to read.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Well, what's in the document is more than an idea.
What's in the document is a confession of self evident truth.
The Atlantic wants us to still think we're fighting over ideas,
when in reality, the fighting ended at the signature of
the declaration. There was a resolution of what reality was
and how we would proceed, and the daring reality that
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we would know we were starting a country based upon
first principles of self evident truth and considering concerning the
consent of the governed. The Atlantic ones is still pretend
we're in the revolution, and that's why they're going to
talk about the revolution, not about the declaration and the
first principles of it.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
In the final fifteen seconds, I would say this what
you were laser focused like a dog on a bone
or turn in two fifty, it's all about the declaration.
And I thought, well, that's a nice notion. I didn't realize.
Now I can see through the Atlantic this is the
war of twenty twenty six. It's over our founding and
self evidence.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Truth at a time.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I don't have to tell you of unsettling fighting and chaos.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Hey, I'll give you a clue. That's the truth. It
always comes out in the end. Amen.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
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Good morning, and thanks for making your morning show a
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Speaker 1 (17:17):
Michael del Jorno.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
President Trump says Israel and Hamas have agreed to the
first phase of his proposed peace plan. Remember it was
Marco Rubio who first kind of gave us this glimpse
of well. Phase one is ceasefire, exchange hostages, withdraw troops,
get humanitarian relief into the Palestinian area. Phase two, what
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to do with Hamas, What to do with a governing
body to ensure this never happens again. That's the trickier phase.
So that's not to rain anybody's parade. There was nothing
rushed here, and this is big. This is big if
you're a family waiting on the remains or your living
loved one to be returned. But there's I'm heavy lifting
down the road now the president. You know, there's a
(18:03):
lot of speculation he might get the Nobel Peace Prize.
I don't think that had anything to do with it.
This is a president the pretty consistently look sooner or
later on of the abundance of his heart. His mouth
always speaks, and whenever it comes to Ukraine and Russia.
What he's most persistent and consistent about is he's wanting
the dying to stop. He wants peace. I think that's
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his ultimate goal. And he knows the two phases that
are to come, and he knows how difficult Phase two
will be compared to one, but he's certainly thrilled. You
can't get to two until you get to one. So
you know, it was really kind of the President's having
this big meeting. All of a sudden the door opens.
It's Marco Rubio. Right in the middle of the meeting.
You go, oh, it's Marco, Marco, come here. And then
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the very very reminiscent of the visual of George Bush
at the school in Florida on nine to eleven. You know,
he whispers in the President's here her hands of a
piece of paper, and that's when we find out we
have an agreement. Would later see the images of Israeli
officials and Hamas officials shaking hands. The signing is to
be today. All hostages have to be released within seventy
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two hours, certainly by Monday. At that point, Israel would
begin to withdraw its troops to an agreed uponline and
that all begins today with the agreement being signed. The
President on True Social made the announcement, I'm very proud
to announce it. Israel and Hamas have both signed off
on the first phase of the peace plan. So things
like what do you do with Hamas individuals within the
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Palestinian territory? Will they be allowed to stay? Will they
have to disarm? Will they have to denounce their affiliation
with Hamas? Can you even trust that? Rory pointed out something,
you know, I think we're estimating read forty eight is
the working number of hostages that remain Israeli. Now we
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don't know what percentage of those are alive, and I
suspect I will be praising God if it's more.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Than a handful. But they're going to get seventeen hundred.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Terrorist hostage is released, Tamas hostage is released. That makes
phase two a little tricky, but the president's statement said
it means all hostages will be released very soon. Israel
will draw their troops to an agree uponline as the
first steps towards a strong, durable, everlasting peace. It's a
great day for the Arab world, for the Muslim world,
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for Israel, for all surrounding Nations and the United States
of America. And we thank the mediators from Cutter, Egypt
and Turkey who worked with us to make this historic,
unprecedented event happen. Blessed are the peacemakers, is how the
President ended it. The Israeli media reported Israel and the
terror group will sign the deal today in Egypt Pebdanya,
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who said in a statement, with God's help, we will
bring them all home. He added in a statement, and
he a great day for Israel tomorrow it convene the
government to approve the agreement and bring our dear hostages home.
I think the heroic soldiers of the IDF and all
the security forces, I think them from the bottom of
my heart. I think, for the bottom of my heart,
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President Trump and his team for mobilizing in this sacred
mission of freedom of our hostages. With God's help, together
will continue to achieve our objectives and expand peace to
our neighbors.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
What they'll be most interested in Israel.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Israel kind of be a split, you know when he
gets there, because there are some just want this over
and then there are some who want lasting peace. And
the lasting piece is the way this traditionally goes down
is in these territories, and again they're within.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
The territory of Israel.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
So whenever you're talking about you know, ah It, ceasefire,
go leave Hamas, let them rule, you're talking about Hamas
who doesn't see Israel's right to exist, reigning and ruling
within Israeli borders. So what happens is these conflicts end
the Palestine and people turn to other or the same
type of radical Islamist jihadist leadership, and it eventually leads
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to another conflict for Israel, an attack and then for
Israel a war to kick the can back, and then
a hostage release. They've been down this road a million times.
They just don't want to be Oh, here we go again,
and then in a year or two we're right back
where we started. So that's what I think the President
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is interested in. And we talked about this in the
first hour. Even the stuff you laugh about the riviera
of the Middle East. There's no such thing as a
bad idea. The only proven bad idea is a two
state solution with one side, not one on the other
side to even exist and remaining radicalized. But what the
president's reaching for is if we can rebuild this territory.
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If we can create a safe and prosperous place, they
won't need to turn. And then that I got into
this earlier. If you're a peace loving Muslim, probably not
a very peaceful place.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
If you're a.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Political Islamist, well you're not ready to fight right now,
but you're ready to align with those who will, and
if things get bad, you will always turn to jihad.
And that's why you'd like to have a proclivity to
have those kinds of elements in control to fight for
you and to join them in the fight. But if
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you had peace and prosperity and you didn't need that,
it's a legitimate idea for lasting peace. Now, I don't
think you make big giant trump casinos. Are you play
out to be the revier of the Middle East. But
I've always latched onto I like the way the President
has developed relations with reasonable Arab and Muslim nations, and
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if they were a part of overseeing this area, it
would certainly be less likely than the clear, repetitive, insane
proclivity for it to keep going back to some kind
of terrorist element that is just a proxy for Iran. Now,
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the other conversation that we had earlier this morning. I
thought that was very interesting, is what kind of momentum
does this create? Is there enough momentum in Phase one
to get the Phase two going? Is there enough momentum
in Phase one to maybe get Russia and Ukraine to
relook at their situation? Heck, as we kicked around, is
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there enough momentum in Phase one that we look how
ridiculous we are doing here at home? We can't find
a two party solution in America. We can't even get
both sides, who have walked us into thirty seven trillion
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dollars of dangerous debt, to do a four week continuing
resolution without political theater. And yet Kingdom versus Kingdom is
being led to at least a ceasefire, at least a
hostage exchange, and at least a step towards the heavy
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lifting of Phase two. Far and to weigh the top
story today, and then we did this piece earlier that
I think is so relevant to us and the moment,
and it was a ras Musen poll.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
And it was kind of just seeing you know this.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
We mentioned it yesterday obviously before the peace announcement, and
I think the takeaway from ras Musen would be we're
almost at fifty percent and hopefulness, which is really kind
of sad, But it was a tipping point in that
more voters believed that a peace deal to end the
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Gaza war could be close. Not at hand, but could
be close. It is not even fifty percent. Forty four
percent of likely voters rate Trump is doing a good
or excellent job at handling this issue. It's been president
ten months. October seventh happened on Biden's watch. The party
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couldn't decide whose side it was on. If anything, the
anti Semitism of the Middle East came to our college
campuses and they got the nerve forty four percent. And
then when you break down the numbers, it was completely
partisan fort or no. Was forty four percent rate Trump
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is doing a good or excellent job. But when you
break down the numbers, it was seventy one percent of Republicans.
I think we know the twenty nine percent of Republicans
didn't think he was doing a good good job, and
how smart are they feeling today? But sixty one percent
of Democrats said he was doing a poor job. That's
how divided we are at home. The view of Israel,
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the view of October seventh. The view of everything since then,
the view of taking out the who thies, the views
of taking out hamas taking out has Belah, kicking Iran
back years in its nuclear ambitions. Is seventy one percent
from Republicans he's doing a good or excellent job. Sixty
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one percent of Democrats he's doing a poor job. And
now today we have the handshake and the signing of peace,
and the tragedy is for the sixty one percent of Democrats.
It reminds me of what Pam Bondi said, I wish
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you loved this country as much as you hate Donald Trump.
You could also flip that and say, I wish you
loved this country as much as you love Donald Trump
to the right. But that's the level of dysfunction we
have here at home. They're finding a way to peace.
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We can't keep the government open, and let me remind
you that would only be for four weeks, because we're
right back here on Thanksgiving week. Meanwhile, the Senate failed
to advance two measures aimed at putting an end to
the partial government shutdown, so we head into day nine
with no votes in sight. A twenty nine year old
man is behind bars in connection with the deadly destructive
Palisades fire. In the end, it ends up being twelve lives,
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one hundred and fifty billion dollars. Jason Campineau is going
to join us on the super driver who started it
all when we come back. And then finally the Tiger's
cubs and Phillies all managed to stay alive with winds.
The Yankees got eliminated last night by the Blue Jays,
and we have Thursday Night football tonight, Eagles and Giants.
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It's your Morning Show with Michael del Chorno.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I guess in honor of the Chicago Cubs, I should say, hey,
let's go to Jason camp Bedonia. There's something about from
cap Kaki, Illinois, Jason Campedonia. I always thought it was
the name. Harry Carey would say, Jason. Always a pleasure
to have you join us from the West Coast. I
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don't like the news that we're here to discuss. It
turns out an Uber driver started all the Palisades fires
and he is in custody.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
What do we know about this twenty nine year old
So we know that he was a disgruntled Uber driver.
The night of the fires, it was New Year's Eve,
he dropped off some passengers. The FEDS came in and
they investigated everybody who was in the area, and they
found out that he was driving for Uber. He lived
in the Palisades at the time. Disgruntold dropped some passengers off,
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went up into the mountains there and started watching some
rap videos from a French wrapper. Apparently there was some
pyromania going on in those in those videos. Watched those
videos a couple of times and then lit a fire
We're not exactly sure how, and called nine one one
several times. No, he wasn't able to get through because
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the neighbors in the area called nine one one. We
were having some heavy winds at that point, and when
fire crews arrived, he started filming the fire cruise. He
was filming the response and then started putting into chat GPT,
hey can I be held liable for a.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Wildfire from my cigarette?
Speaker 7 (32:43):
So he started prompting those and then what we found
out was fire crews were able to suppress the fire.
They didn't extinguish it, they were able to suppress the fire.
The fire went underground in the dense root system in
the area and stayed a lot for a week. And
then on January seventh, we had a major wind event
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here in southern California win gus up up to one
hundred miles an hour.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I mean, that's a hurricane, and.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
It lit those embers and spread them all across the
Pacific Palisade, which then started the Palisades Fire. So this
guy is actually charged with starting another fire which started
the Palisades Fire. And in that you know that we
lost about a dozen We lost about a dozen lives
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and thousands upon thousands of homes in the Palisades Fire.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
And hundred and fifty billion twelve.
Speaker 7 (33:43):
Yeah, I would say I would say probably higher than that.
The rebuilding process is taking nine months and we've only
had you know, maybe a handful of permits being allowed,
rebuild permits being allowed so far. So it You know,
here's the thing. The people who live in the area,
the people who are affected directly by the Palisades fire,
(34:05):
they want to hang this guy from the gallows.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
This is the guy, right, and.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
These people they've lost everything, they can't rebuild. They're living
in hotels or temporary shelter somewhere, and it really just
has upended the lives of thousands and thousands of people.
I mean, high school kids are now going to a
different school campus, which I think was like an old
Target or an old Walmart that they had to gut
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and make temporary classrooms.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I mean, if you were in school.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
We're down to one minute, Jason. But I'm so glad
you brought that up, because if you live in California,
if you lived in this area, this is worse than COVID.
They still don't even have a home or of a
home many time soon and you find out it's a
twenty nine year old from France uber driver who listened
to that song apparently nine times and watched the video
(34:55):
four times. And the lyrics from the song are about daily
life is killing me. I feel like I'm nowhere. Another
case of a twenty nine year old who apparently doesn't
like life and was fascinated with fire. He starts all
of this, well, good luck keeping him safe between now
and the trial. And boy, it took all this time.
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I mean it started at twelve ten am on New
Year's morning and here it is October eighth, yesterday, he's
brought into custody.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
What a story. I appreciated Jason, great work. As always,
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Good morning, Michael.
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All right, so it's obvious all my listeners have a
crush on Mary. I want her to be the fill
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know what to say. I'm my breath is taken away.
We've got a great, great day of news today, so
very similar to nine to eleven at the schoolhouse, Marco
(01:32):
Rubiu leans down and whispers into the president's here and
hands him a piece of paper, and that's when we
all find out that we have a piece deal. Later,
pictures would come out of Israeli and Hamas officials shaking
on it. It should be signed today. All hostages should
be released within seventy two hours. Israel will pull back
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it's troops to an agree uponline and we'll give this
a whirl at peace in the Middle East. I said,
if this could lead to somehow an end of the
Russian Ukraine War by the end of the year, this
will be very reminiscent of nineteen sixty eight. It could
save the year. After all, a twenty nine year old
turns out to be behind bars in connection was starting
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the deadly and destructive Palisades fire. Twelve lives and one
hundred and fifty billion dollars later, it's an uber driver
who didn't like his life. Pope Leo urging US bishops
to address President Trump's immigration crackdown, and the Senate failed
to advance two measures aimed at putting an end to
the partial government shutdown, So it continues in today nine
(02:37):
Roy O'Neil is our national correspondent and he joins US
President Trump. Israel and Hamas it's announced, have the framework
for peace.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
What's left is does he.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Get a peace prize and does he go to Israel
and deliver a speech to the Israeli government.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Lots to leave or Egypt or somewhere in the Middle
East for a trip this weekend for the President. I
know he's got the leader of Finland at the White
House today. He's got his medical check up tomorrow, but
he is expected to travel to the region sometime this weekend,
saying to Sean Hannity last night that he expects the
forty eight hostages to be free by Monday or perhaps before,
(03:14):
but they're also going to be nearly two thousand Palestinians
released by Israeli officials as part of this exchange. So
there's still a lot to coordinate, but this, I guess
stage one, phase one.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So far everyone seems to be pretty optimistic.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
It's interesting, Rory, you say phase one, The president said,
phase one, Phase one, Phase two was kind of laid
out in the talking head shows by Marco Rubio. Phase
one being the immediate and in the long run, the simpler.
We stop shooting each other, we release hostages, we withdraw troops,
and that would start I guess today with the signing
(03:53):
and then seventy two hours to release the hostages would
trigger the line that Israel will pull its troops back.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Phase two.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
That's where we get to the lasting piece, and that's
where're going to get to tough things like will Hamas
people who claim to disarm be able to remain in
the area because lasting piece is hinged upon radical Islam
not having a place of control.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
So this is just phase one, right, And if you're
releasing nineteen hundred members of Hamas right by Israeli forces,
including many who are serving life sentences, are they less
radicalized after spending time in prison in Israel? And are
they willing to abide by these terms, lay down their
weapons and live in harmony. That's something that's that's going
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to be difficult to see long term. You know, obviously
there's a lot of hope that this can happen, but
a lot is still clear. I think everyone is just
optimistic we can get to Monday. Israel agreed already to
a ceasefire on their side, so let's see if we
can get to the hostage release next.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
As the next steps here.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Well, what's the old song on foot in front of
the there? But this is really more of a ceasefire
a hostage release than it is lasting piece at this point.
And I imagine I said this earlier when I was alone.
I know you need to run, but I don't think
the president is doing this for a Nobel Peace Prize.
I think he's doing this for lasting piece, and he
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knows how much further there is to go.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
But this is a good.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Start, and it's a start many people don't think was coming,
not this soon. Worry's gonna be back in the third hour.
We'll get you more of an update on the signing
later today, as well as the government shutdown, which is
this day nine now I can tell you this from
just playing you a brief little piece of audio. I
(05:42):
don't think a resolution is coming any time soon. This
is representative Mike Lawler confronting in the hallway Jakim Jeffries
and doesn't sound like they're any closer to an agreement.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Are you against that? You're embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
You want to you want to cut the standard deduction
and go all as medicaid and voted fraud and abuse.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
By the vot of New York.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Ask your question pointed out that one point two billion
dollars wasteless.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
You're not wasted. You're not gonna waste. You're not gonna
talk wasted. I'm going to talk to me on and
talk because you don't. You know, it's amazing, David.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
We can we can get at least the framework and
the momentum towards peace in the Middle East, but we
can't get two partisan parties to even have a conversation
and listen to each other. Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Something is broken home too, Yeah, seriously broken.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I I know this is big for you, and it's
big for the president too. America is getting ready to
celebrate its two hundred and fiftieth birthday.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
It seems like yesterday. I was in Arlington Heights. It
was nineteen seventy six, It was by Centennial, and we
all went to Rolling Metals High School for the fireworks,
and it was an extraordinary celebration of America turning two hundred.
I think at that time I was twelve years old,
eleven twelve years old. I'd been eleven, still not quite twelve.
I didn't know anything about our two hundred year history.
(07:08):
I didn't anything about our founding fathers. I just knew
i'd live somewhere that turned two hundred, and that was
exciting enough. Two hundred and fifty seems like there's a
lot at stake, and in our inabilities to get on
the same rail and be American and understand our founders
and our intent and our documents. It would suggest that
(07:29):
at two hundred and fifty be a good time to
go back to that Declaration of Independence and get in
tune with it. So the founders certainly got it, they
wrote it. Do we today? And perhaps there's going to
be a battle to see who can own the declaration and.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
What it really means and really meant.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
And maybe the Atlantic shot the first bullets of this
who's going to control the message of the Declaration of
Independence at two hundred and fifty years old.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Yeah, it's unfortunate, Michael, that we don't have the unified
approach as a country to reality that we shared over
different periods of time in our history. But what's interesting
is that we've got this two hundred and fiftieth celebration
coming up, and most people are saying, Okay, whatever, Fourth
of July, there'll be more fireworks, and for a large
(08:19):
amount of people it'll be just that simple. It'll just
be okay, big deal, new decorations. But in the places
where opinions are taught and worldviews are shaped and formed,
whether we're talking about churches or around dining room tables
or in universities, colleges, schools, there is an attempt and
(08:40):
there will be an attempt to get a hold of
this issue and to use it as a teachable moment.
We're doing it at the American Policy Roundtable in the
public square, and so are all other kinds of media
and research organizations, and not the least of which is
the vanguard of the progressive movement, which is The Atlantic magazine.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I got an email. I got an email from Jeffrey
Goldberg himself yesterday, the editor in chief, featuring this story.
I mean, he wasn't even going to wait for me
to go to the website to read it. He wanted
to make sure it came in my email. Do you
want to do something free?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah? Yeah, free because.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Normally you have to pay, so well, I, in all fairness,
I don't know if I I do pay because I
have to keep an eye on what they're saying. As
you mentioned, Uh, they informed the intelligentsia. They inform Comcast
and Disney and the news networks. So if I want
to know what's coming narrative wise, I always start at
the Atlantic. But do you want to do them first
(09:35):
or you? Because I think it's no, I'm just gonna say.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Oh no.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
But he's basically laying out and taking his claim to yes,
the declaration and yes, here's what the declaration means. And
then we'll compare it to what you say is, oh, yes,
he's on the right thing. He's on the document.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
Well, actually he's not. That's the whole point. The subtitle
of his email is it starts off with the American Experiment.
That's his title, and the subtitle is a two fifty.
The revolution's goals remain noble and indispensable. They don't talk
about the declaration. They talk about the revolution. That may
seem subtle, but it's not. It's substantive. They do not
(10:20):
want people reading the words of the declaration. They want
people talking about the work of the revolution. And the
Atlantic has started early. They've even gone out that same
email you and I both read is basically the Atlantic
is worried that their view of this is going to
get overwhelmed by other media sources, and so they want
(10:41):
people now to understand it's all about They've partner with
ken Burns and PBS. The documentary series is all about
the revolution now, the war for independence, and many people
will in regards to the political philosophy, would tell you
is not a revolution. But we're not going to get
into that fine point right now. The point is they
don't want to talk about the document They want to
talk about the war. That's a very big difference. I'd
(11:04):
be like saying we're going to talk about World War two,
and we're just going to talk about the three major
battles of World War Two. We're not going to talk
about the Axis powers versus the allied powers and basically
the human liberty was at risk.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
It's interesting because the subtitle on my email, or the
introduction of my email is is it's from Jeffrey Goldberg,
and it says, introducing the Unfinished Revolution.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Well, which of course is the mantra of socialism, is
that the endless struggle between class and class warfare will
never be resolved. And so this is all being recast
in progressive language. Now, we could say mister Goldberg is
not smart enough to know the language that he's using,
and he's just stumbled into it because that's what he
is reading online these days.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
No, no, no, that, Yeah, he's set in the narrative. Yeah,
they really are.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
And they're setting the narrative away from the declaration because
the words of the declaration are dangerous words in a
progressive world, because they speak about the consent of the government,
the power of the individual, the importance of a personal conscience,
and four times the Declaration of Independence mentions God nowhere
(12:12):
mentioned in that entire Atlantic publication. By the way, right
now i'm reading through the articles, you won't find much
of any of that conversation whatsoever. They're shifting the narrative
and they're starting early because they know they're already behind.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
He says in one paragraph, the Atlantic does not make
the mistake of downplaying the declaration or the events of
seventeen seventy six. You will see that we are not
simplistic or uncritical in our approach, but we are indeed
motivated by the idea that the American Revolution represents one
of the most important events in the history of the planet,
(12:46):
and its ideals continue to symbolize hope and freedom for mankind.
And in that he pivots from the document and you're right,
never touches it and starts rolling out what's coming in
a six part PBS broadcast documentary, and the perill that
documents over there.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
Fading underneath that plastic Oh, we're.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Not under playing, but and that document's not going to
come up in this documentary either.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
No.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
And one other thing that's really important to know, Michael,
is their approach on this is two ways to look
at history. You can either look at it from where
we are today and judgmentally critique what happened based upon
your current worldview. That's the approach of the Atlantic, or
you can go one hundred years behind the events and
learn the world that the people who were born inherited
(13:37):
as children, and then ask yourself what did they do
with what they were handed. That's real history, that's reality
in space and time. The Atlantic is clearly taking the
post effect. In other words, we're here, they're wrong, let's
fix them in our an area.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Why are they so afraid?
Speaker 3 (13:56):
I mean, if I would, I would not want to
take this year to tell everyone how to think, what
our founding fathers were thinking, or what their intent was.
If I could have one goal, one dream come true,
it's that everyone would just read the document, even if
you read it once a week. That would be the
true because you can read it and understand it for yourself.
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But obviously we live in a very polarized time, and
the other side they're going to acknowledge the document exists
and pivot the conversation completely away from it without even
uttering a word of it. That's the battle that we're in,
and the first shots have been fired and the first
signal of where they're headed with their narrative. The necessity
(14:42):
of the endless revolution is where they're headed, not our intent,
which makes us so unique to the world fighting certainly
not unique, all right? Why Are they afraid of the words?
Why don't they want you to read them? David Sanati
has more when we come.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Back This is Your Morning Show with Michael del Chino.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
The President says Israel and Hamas have agreed to a
peace deal should be signed today. An uber driver turns
out to be the starter of the Palisades fire, or
so he's accused and arrested. We'll have more with Jason
Campedonia on that in moments from now. We're rapid things
up with David Sanadi. All right, so here we come,
two hundred and fifty years old. Don't look at our
founding document. What is in that document you want people
(15:28):
so desperately to read, and what is it the Atlantic
doesn't want them to read.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Well, what's in the document is more than an idea.
What's in the document is a confession of self evident truth.
The Atlantic wants us to still think we're fighting over ideas,
when in reality, the fighting ended at the signature of
the declaration. There was a resolution of what reality was
and how we would proceed, and the daring reality that
(15:53):
we would know we were starting a country based upon
first principles of self evident truth and considering concerning the
consent of the governed. The Atlantic ones is still pretend
we're in the revolution, and that's why they're going to
talk about the revolution, not about the declaration and the
first principles of it.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
In the final fifteen seconds, I would say this what
you were laser focused like a dog on a bone
or turn in two fifty, it's all about the declaration.
And I thought, well, that's a nice notion. I didn't realize.
Now I can see through the Atlantic this is the
war of twenty twenty six. It's over our founding and
self evidence.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Truth at a time.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I don't have to tell you of unsettling fighting and chaos.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Hey, I'll give you a clue. That's the truth. It
always comes out in the end. Amen.
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Good morning, and thanks for making your morning show a
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Speaker 1 (17:17):
Michael del Jorno.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
President Trump says Israel and Hamas have agreed to the
first phase of his proposed peace plan. Remember it was
Marco Rubio who first kind of gave us this glimpse
of well. Phase one is ceasefire, exchange hostages, withdraw troops,
get humanitarian relief into the Palestinian area. Phase two, what
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to do with Hamas, What to do with a governing
body to ensure this never happens again. That's the trickier phase.
So that's not to rain anybody's parade. There was nothing
rushed here, and this is big. This is big if
you're a family waiting on the remains or your living
loved one to be returned. But there's I'm heavy lifting
down the road now the president. You know, there's a
(18:03):
lot of speculation he might get the Nobel Peace Prize.
I don't think that had anything to do with it.
This is a president the pretty consistently look sooner or
later on of the abundance of his heart. His mouth
always speaks, and whenever it comes to Ukraine and Russia.
What he's most persistent and consistent about is he's wanting
the dying to stop. He wants peace. I think that's
(18:26):
his ultimate goal. And he knows the two phases that
are to come, and he knows how difficult Phase two
will be compared to one, but he's certainly thrilled. You
can't get to two until you get to one. So
you know, it was really kind of the President's having
this big meeting. All of a sudden the door opens.
It's Marco Rubio. Right in the middle of the meeting.
You go, oh, it's Marco, Marco, come here. And then
(18:46):
the very very reminiscent of the visual of George Bush
at the school in Florida on nine to eleven. You know,
he whispers in the President's here her hands of a
piece of paper, and that's when we find out we
have an agreement. Would later see the images of Israeli
officials and Hamas officials shaking hands. The signing is to
be today. All hostages have to be released within seventy
(19:09):
two hours, certainly by Monday. At that point, Israel would
begin to withdraw its troops to an agreed uponline and
that all begins today with the agreement being signed. The
President on True Social made the announcement, I'm very proud
to announce it. Israel and Hamas have both signed off
on the first phase of the peace plan. So things
like what do you do with Hamas individuals within the
(19:33):
Palestinian territory? Will they be allowed to stay? Will they
have to disarm? Will they have to denounce their affiliation
with Hamas? Can you even trust that? Rory pointed out something,
you know, I think we're estimating read forty eight is
the working number of hostages that remain Israeli. Now we
(19:54):
don't know what percentage of those are alive, and I
suspect I will be praising God if it's more.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Than a handful. But they're going to get seventeen hundred.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Terrorist hostage is released, Tamas hostage is released. That makes
phase two a little tricky, but the president's statement said
it means all hostages will be released very soon. Israel
will draw their troops to an agree uponline as the
first steps towards a strong, durable, everlasting peace. It's a
great day for the Arab world, for the Muslim world,
(20:30):
for Israel, for all surrounding Nations and the United States
of America. And we thank the mediators from Cutter, Egypt
and Turkey who worked with us to make this historic,
unprecedented event happen. Blessed are the peacemakers, is how the
President ended it. The Israeli media reported Israel and the
terror group will sign the deal today in Egypt Pebdanya,
(20:54):
who said in a statement, with God's help, we will
bring them all home. He added in a statement, and
he a great day for Israel tomorrow it convene the
government to approve the agreement and bring our dear hostages home.
I think the heroic soldiers of the IDF and all
the security forces, I think them from the bottom of
my heart. I think, for the bottom of my heart,
(21:15):
President Trump and his team for mobilizing in this sacred
mission of freedom of our hostages. With God's help, together
will continue to achieve our objectives and expand peace to
our neighbors.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
What they'll be most interested in Israel.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Israel kind of be a split, you know when he
gets there, because there are some just want this over
and then there are some who want lasting peace. And
the lasting piece is the way this traditionally goes down
is in these territories, and again they're within.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
The territory of Israel.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
So whenever you're talking about you know, ah It, ceasefire,
go leave Hamas, let them rule, you're talking about Hamas
who doesn't see Israel's right to exist, reigning and ruling
within Israeli borders. So what happens is these conflicts end
the Palestine and people turn to other or the same
type of radical Islamist jihadist leadership, and it eventually leads
(22:14):
to another conflict for Israel, an attack and then for
Israel a war to kick the can back, and then
a hostage release. They've been down this road a million times.
They just don't want to be Oh, here we go again,
and then in a year or two we're right back
where we started. So that's what I think the President
(22:35):
is interested in. And we talked about this in the
first hour. Even the stuff you laugh about the riviera
of the Middle East. There's no such thing as a
bad idea. The only proven bad idea is a two
state solution with one side, not one on the other
side to even exist and remaining radicalized. But what the
president's reaching for is if we can rebuild this territory.
(22:58):
If we can create a safe and prosperous place, they
won't need to turn. And then that I got into
this earlier. If you're a peace loving Muslim, probably not
a very peaceful place.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
If you're a.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Political Islamist, well you're not ready to fight right now,
but you're ready to align with those who will, and
if things get bad, you will always turn to jihad.
And that's why you'd like to have a proclivity to
have those kinds of elements in control to fight for
you and to join them in the fight. But if
(23:34):
you had peace and prosperity and you didn't need that,
it's a legitimate idea for lasting peace. Now, I don't
think you make big giant trump casinos. Are you play
out to be the revier of the Middle East. But
I've always latched onto I like the way the President
has developed relations with reasonable Arab and Muslim nations, and
(23:55):
if they were a part of overseeing this area, it
would certainly be less likely than the clear, repetitive, insane
proclivity for it to keep going back to some kind
of terrorist element that is just a proxy for Iran. Now,
(24:19):
the other conversation that we had earlier this morning. I
thought that was very interesting, is what kind of momentum
does this create? Is there enough momentum in Phase one
to get the Phase two going? Is there enough momentum
in Phase one to maybe get Russia and Ukraine to
relook at their situation? Heck, as we kicked around, is
(24:42):
there enough momentum in Phase one that we look how
ridiculous we are doing here at home? We can't find
a two party solution in America. We can't even get
both sides, who have walked us into thirty seven trillion
(25:04):
dollars of dangerous debt, to do a four week continuing
resolution without political theater. And yet Kingdom versus Kingdom is
being led to at least a ceasefire, at least a
hostage exchange, and at least a step towards the heavy
(25:25):
lifting of Phase two. Far and to weigh the top
story today, and then we did this piece earlier that
I think is so relevant to us and the moment,
and it was a ras Musen poll.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
And it was kind of just seeing you know this.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
We mentioned it yesterday obviously before the peace announcement, and
I think the takeaway from ras Musen would be we're
almost at fifty percent and hopefulness, which is really kind
of sad, But it was a tipping point in that
more voters believed that a peace deal to end the
(26:10):
Gaza war could be close. Not at hand, but could
be close. It is not even fifty percent. Forty four
percent of likely voters rate Trump is doing a good
or excellent job at handling this issue. It's been president
ten months. October seventh happened on Biden's watch. The party
(26:38):
couldn't decide whose side it was on. If anything, the
anti Semitism of the Middle East came to our college
campuses and they got the nerve forty four percent. And
then when you break down the numbers, it was completely
partisan fort or no. Was forty four percent rate Trump
(27:06):
is doing a good or excellent job. But when you
break down the numbers, it was seventy one percent of Republicans.
I think we know the twenty nine percent of Republicans
didn't think he was doing a good good job, and
how smart are they feeling today? But sixty one percent
of Democrats said he was doing a poor job. That's
how divided we are at home. The view of Israel,
(27:27):
the view of October seventh. The view of everything since then,
the view of taking out the who thies, the views
of taking out hamas taking out has Belah, kicking Iran
back years in its nuclear ambitions. Is seventy one percent
from Republicans he's doing a good or excellent job. Sixty
(27:48):
one percent of Democrats he's doing a poor job. And
now today we have the handshake and the signing of peace,
and the tragedy is for the sixty one percent of Democrats.
It reminds me of what Pam Bondi said, I wish
(28:09):
you loved this country as much as you hate Donald Trump.
You could also flip that and say, I wish you
loved this country as much as you love Donald Trump
to the right. But that's the level of dysfunction we
have here at home. They're finding a way to peace.
(28:35):
We can't keep the government open, and let me remind
you that would only be for four weeks, because we're
right back here on Thanksgiving week. Meanwhile, the Senate failed
to advance two measures aimed at putting an end to
the partial government shutdown, so we head into day nine
with no votes in sight. A twenty nine year old
man is behind bars in connection with the deadly destructive
Palisades fire. In the end, it ends up being twelve lives,
(28:59):
one hundred and fifty billion dollars. Jason Campineau is going
to join us on the super driver who started it
all when we come back. And then finally the Tiger's
cubs and Phillies all managed to stay alive with winds.
The Yankees got eliminated last night by the Blue Jays,
and we have Thursday Night football tonight, Eagles and Giants.
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Speaker 1 (31:03):
Your wife and your daughters like I had.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
It's your Morning Show with Michael del Chorno.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I guess in honor of the Chicago Cubs, I should say, hey,
let's go to Jason camp Bedonia. There's something about from
cap Kaki, Illinois, Jason Campedonia. I always thought it was
the name. Harry Carey would say, Jason. Always a pleasure
to have you join us from the West Coast. I
(31:32):
don't like the news that we're here to discuss. It
turns out an Uber driver started all the Palisades fires
and he is in custody.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
What do we know about this twenty nine year old
So we know that he was a disgruntled Uber driver.
The night of the fires, it was New Year's Eve,
he dropped off some passengers. The FEDS came in and
they investigated everybody who was in the area, and they
found out that he was driving for Uber. He lived
in the Palisades at the time. Disgruntold dropped some passengers off,
(31:59):
went up into the mountains there and started watching some
rap videos from a French wrapper. Apparently there was some
pyromania going on in those in those videos. Watched those
videos a couple of times and then lit a fire
We're not exactly sure how, and called nine one one
several times. No, he wasn't able to get through because
(32:22):
the neighbors in the area called nine one one. We
were having some heavy winds at that point, and when
fire crews arrived, he started filming the fire cruise. He
was filming the response and then started putting into chat GPT,
hey can I be held liable for a.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Wildfire from my cigarette?
Speaker 7 (32:43):
So he started prompting those and then what we found
out was fire crews were able to suppress the fire.
They didn't extinguish it, they were able to suppress the fire.
The fire went underground in the dense root system in
the area and stayed a lot for a week. And
then on January seventh, we had a major wind event
(33:06):
here in southern California win gus up up to one
hundred miles an hour.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I mean, that's a hurricane, and.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
It lit those embers and spread them all across the
Pacific Palisade, which then started the Palisades Fire. So this
guy is actually charged with starting another fire which started
the Palisades Fire. And in that you know that we
lost about a dozen We lost about a dozen lives
(33:34):
and thousands upon thousands of homes in the Palisades Fire.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
And hundred and fifty billion twelve.
Speaker 7 (33:43):
Yeah, I would say I would say probably higher than that.
The rebuilding process is taking nine months and we've only
had you know, maybe a handful of permits being allowed,
rebuild permits being allowed so far. So it You know,
here's the thing. The people who live in the area,
the people who are affected directly by the Palisades fire,
(34:05):
they want to hang this guy from the gallows.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
This is the guy, right, and.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
These people they've lost everything, they can't rebuild. They're living
in hotels or temporary shelter somewhere, and it really just
has upended the lives of thousands and thousands of people.
I mean, high school kids are now going to a
different school campus, which I think was like an old
Target or an old Walmart that they had to gut
(34:30):
and make temporary classrooms.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I mean, if you were in school.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
We're down to one minute, Jason. But I'm so glad
you brought that up, because if you live in California,
if you lived in this area, this is worse than COVID.
They still don't even have a home or of a
home many time soon and you find out it's a
twenty nine year old from France uber driver who listened
to that song apparently nine times and watched the video
(34:55):
four times. And the lyrics from the song are about daily
life is killing me. I feel like I'm nowhere. Another
case of a twenty nine year old who apparently doesn't
like life and was fascinated with fire. He starts all
of this, well, good luck keeping him safe between now
and the trial. And boy, it took all this time.
(35:16):
I mean it started at twelve ten am on New
Year's morning and here it is October eighth, yesterday, he's
brought into custody.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
What a story. I appreciated Jason, great work. As always,
We're all in this together. This is your Morning Show
with Michael ndheld Choo
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