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Who is finton O'Toole? Why is the Atlantic using him
as a tool to redefine our Republic's intent? Our senior contributor,
David Sanadi is joining us to walk us through this
revealing journey of discovery as we approach the two hundred
and fifty year celebration of the Declaration of Independence. I
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would think they're revealing at least their entire playbook through
this mysterious finton o'tool David care to share with us
in this journey of discovery?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Who this man is?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Good morning, Michael. You have thirty seconds or the orchestra
begins to play. That was hilarious.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
No, we really do that though.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
If you go longer than thirty seconds, the orchestra kicks in.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Oh my gosh, that's hilarious. I'm going to call it
just to find out what that sounds like.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
It sounds just like this, and we thank you, Jo
you Lo.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I have to compliment you.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
No, I have to compliment you because you very early
on discerned at the American Policy Roundtable that this two
hundred I'm going to use your words here and you're
going to giggle. And for the people at home, it's
because this is one of his expressions. You recognized and
discerned early that the two hundred and fifty years celebration
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of the Declaration of Independence and our Republic was a
really big deal.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
And not a lot.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Of people, I mean, we knew it was common and
people talked about like fireworks and so on. No, you
knew it was going to be a defining war over
what the intent of our republic is. And so did
the And they came out early with their editor and
they made it all about revolution, not about inalienable rights,
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not about a nation under God to from which liberty
and freedom comes. And then this was like the next
volley after that introductory editor's opinion piece comes Fitton, no tool,
I mean, I can get you started. Is fitting no tools?
Some kind of historian, some kind of an American constitutional attorney?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Who is he? Well, let's take a step right to
where you are. And that's the Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlantic.
It sort of it chairs, if you will.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
He's the chairman of the intellectual fountain, head of how
the corporate media of America and academia is going to
interpret the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary because The Atlantic
has assembled a group of writers and some scholars, and
they're going to now tell us about our founding and
tell us about our declaration. And what they chose to
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do was to go early, and mister Goldberg sent all
of us an email and basically said, we're going early
because we're afraid we're going to be overwhelmed by all
the other media. So we're starting in November, which is
right now for them. The November publication has now been
released over five days. It's released online with huge media attention,
and they're sending out news releases everywhere. And what they're
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basically calling the two hundred and fiftieth celebration is an
Unfinished Revolution. That's the title that overrides everything, the Unfinished Revolution.
I did a word count the other night, and our
team verified, because sometimes I don't count all that well.
There are one four hundred and fifty eight words in
the Declaration of Independence, and revolution is not one of them.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I don't think anyway.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I don't think you needed your staff to count that,
all right, So first, first and foremost, the Atlantic, I'm
this is a little bit of review because we get
new affiliates and new listeners every day. We all know
that there's media bias. We all know it's turned into
death of journalism. And now we have narratives and narrative repeating.
That's all we have. But when it comes to the
Atlantic and to some degree the Washington Post, they set
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the tone, and the Associated Press they set the tone.
So what David just said is no small thing. They
are setting the mission, setting the battlefield, settling, you know,
and getting the narrative set for the intelligentsia, meaning every
professor in every classroom, and for the media. So they're
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getting ABCNBCCBSCNN, MSNBC, Washington Post, New York Times, axios all
on the same page, Harvard, any college, university campus, all
on the same page that the two hundred and fiftieth
celebration of the Declaration of Independence and the formation of
our Republic is unfinished revolution.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
That is a huge Look, this is.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Going to fall under a brag and David, I'm going
to break a commandment and I'll repent after the show.
This is going to become very clear to a lot
of people in talk radio. Unfortunately, four months into the battle,
five months into the battle. So we're way about.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Six months or six months after it's over or six months. Ag, well,
that would be tragic.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
This is as David would saying, this is a big deal,
all right, fittin o tool.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
This one's laughable. Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
So what Jeffrey Goldberg has done now is assembled a
whole bunch of writers and now they've released over they're
releasing five chapters.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
They're all released now of the Unfinished Revolution.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And Finch and O'Toole is one of the writers in
the series, and so his article is now released now.
I mean, this gets pretty funny because finc and O'Toole,
first off, isn't an American citizen, never.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Has been, all right.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
So he's writing in our article for The Atlantic, and
it's a really important article because it's titled what the
Founders would Say?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
What would the Founder? He doesn't ask the question what
would the founders say? This is what this By the way,
I'm coming out with this. I'm coming out.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
With a piece later this afternoon, David, I'm with the
founders of Ireland.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Uh would say about the.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, this is what the founders would say? In other words,
so we've got an Irish citizen and who's not. By
the way, this man is a He's a theater critic,
that's his his his focus is theater in the arts,
and that is not being said laughably. Okay, this man
is very credible. He's written an interesting book on Shakespeare.
He's been a theater critic in Ireland and four some
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American publications as well. He is a brilliant storyteller and
a very good writer. He's written a whole boatload of books,
none of them on the American Founding, not one.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Now, he's a really good writer, but he's a little out.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Of his subject us area.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
But that's one of the lead documents in the release
of The Unfinished Revolution is from an Irish theater critic
who's basically again, brilliant author in his field, great storyteller,
but is not a citizen and has never published on
the founding. Those of us that have spent fifty years
or more in the study of the founding go hmm.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
That's kind of interesting.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
But in any case, he has the right to speak,
and mister Goldberg has the right to publish him. So, okay,
but this is one of the things we start with,
and he's telling us what the founders would say, now,
of course, everything that he brings to the table is
in this scorture ping pong match or tennis match. Back
and forth, says a good thing and then spikes the
(09:45):
ball down their throat, says a good thing, and then
knocks them on.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Their tail end.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
It's this passive, aggressive, bipolar back and forth sort of rhetoric.
Make sure, at the end of the day, I just
believe they wouldn't like anything about where we are right now,
because the whole thing's.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Just a mess. David Sanatti is the ust tool.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yeah, David Sanatti is the co host of The Public Square,
heard on two hundred stations, and you know, David gets uncomfortable.
This feels like a shameless plug. I don't mean it
this way. It's just here on your morning show, our
segments are shorter. That's why sometimes you think I'm being
interruptive and I'm just trying to get everything in, whereas
on the Public Square they have a longer time. And
(10:25):
I'm sure this is going to come up on the
Public Square. This is a very very talented writer who's
been given a mission to write a very very talented
narrative of which he has not qualified to discuss, but
it's setting the tone of unfinished revolution and revising history
completely from a non expert out of context. Why is
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this so important for them to do? What about the
Declaration of Independence?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
David?
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Do they not want us to look at, study read?
Why is it that that document is almost like when
you're watching The Exorcist and the priest holds up across
I mean, you know, Linda Blair starts going crazy. What
is it about the Left and the Declaration of Independence?
They don't want you to see it. They don't want
you to read it, they don't want you to memorize it,
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and they sure a is that don't want you to
have it in historic context. Why do they fear this
document so much?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Well because they have to outsource its origins. Because if
you really study the people who wrote it, their lives,
their beliefs, you come to the conclusion of gkh Esterton,
by the way, also not an American citizen, the British
author who spoke about this in the nineteen twenties and thirties,
that the Declaration is America's creed, it's our founding creed.
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It's a statement of worldview and beliefs based upon self
evident truth that are transcendent, not flat earth, uniquely human.
The transcendence of the document terrifies them because transcendence says
we're not alone. There is a God and he is watching.
And that's what they despise, not just watching. His nature matters.
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He is a way, a truth, and a life, and
one we must acknowledge before we can be a republic.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I always love when I walk into business and there
are very few and their mission statement is right on
the wall. I think it's important for their employees to
look at every day. I think it's important for their
customers to see every day. I will give my Catholic
brothers and sisters this praise. I think every church, not
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just the Catholic Church, ought to recite the Creed in
every service to remind ourselves what we believe. And that's
the power of a creed. This is the Creed for
a nation, kind of like the Pledge is our war cry.
That's our creed, and there is a war going on
and it's not in the spirit realm, it's in the
matrix and depth of journalism realm to redefine our founding,
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redefine our intent and frighteningly in this time of great
you know, violence, dare to redefine us at two hundred
and fifty years old, in the midst of turmoil is
unfinished revolution as opposed to one nation under God, indovisible
with liberty and justice for all. So this is important
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and I love the way you do that. Most people look,
most people this will go right over their head. Most
people just see phantom tools, start reading his eloquence and
rewriting of history and not even think about it. I
mean kudos to you for always seeing an author and going, well,
who's this Only to find a theater critic and an
Irish citizen who has never published anything on our founding fathers,
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our Republic or any of our documents.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
That's a journey of discovery. David. Good job.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Well, it gets worse, but we've got more time. Not
on the fourth as you're live, mister Goldberg has many
more surprises for us. Now again, Michael, Well, we're going
to talk about this a lot more. We're going to
talk about it this week on the Public Square as well,
so people can always.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Visit us there to learn more.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Yeah, and the Public Square can be heard on demand
anytime at the public Square dot com and on two
hundred stations nationwide, and hopefully we'll visit again tomorrow.
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David, thank you so much.
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Controllers during the government shutdown.
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When air traffic controllers make one hundred and forty four
thousand dollars a year.
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If I made one hundred and forty four thousand dollars
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I'd be able to miss a few paychecks and it
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The reality is one hundred and forty four thousand dollars
years and what it used to be depending on what
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So.
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It's a it's a problem in America that we live
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I'd find a way to struggle.
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But yeah, I understand what you're saying.
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That's the focus because in the past that's the only
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couple of weeks and they'll start using vacation and they'll
start calling in sick, and then we start having travel issues.
That's why when we did our polls of plenty, it
was important to look at who's everybody blaming, and it's
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shifting towards the Democrats, because the minute the Democrats realize
this political theater is a losing game for them, oh
will suddenly strike a deal only to be right back
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Speaker 4 (19:40):
Am I the only one that thinks that Fenton though
tool sounds like Fenton Old. Well, it is interesting. There
is going to be a war over our republics intent,
and they're going to seize this two hundred and fiftieth
birthday of the Declaration of Independence in our republic to
wage that war, and the Atlantic it informs universities and
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the mass media, that of course is biased and in
the back pocket of the far left. They're going to
make it about unfinished revolution, and they're using Fentn O'Toole,
who is an Irishman, not an American, has never written
about There's no evidence he's ever even studied our founding
or founding fathers or founding documents. He's a theater critic
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and a very good writer. He is their follow up
volley from their editor's opening statement, this is not about
one nation under God, in divisible with liberty and justice
for all that comes from God. This is about unfinished
revolution business. But yeah, now that you mention it, say
(20:45):
it fast enough, it'll sound like Ventanyl Keith is in Youngstown, Ohio.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Michael.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
I'm listening to your discussion about the two hundred and
fiftieth anniversary of our declaration and the Atlantic piece four
pieces that have been released, and I can't help but
think that this is very similar to the publication of
the sixteen nineteen project that came out of the New
(21:11):
York Times. Revision is history at its best.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Well, that's been their game plan all along, right, take
the indoctrination and socialization over education from our universities and
bring it all the way close to the parents' home
and common education K through twelve the youth of the
vanguard of the future. Play to the youth and don't
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educate them, give them revised history, socialization and indoctrination, and
then reinforce it with the other thing you can control,
Hollywood and television, so the movies reinforce it, the sitcoms,
the dramas reinforce it. As you rewrite reality with revised
history already rewritten by the intelligentsia, and then shift everything
(22:03):
into a crazy matrix where you can actually not just
revise history and rewrite reality, you can create alternative realities
and then at ai to the mix. Now you're really
having fun. You can always email me at Michael d
atiheartmedia dot com. Find someone more adept at Islamic rule
in the Gaza than me. It's a pretty brief history.
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This speaks to the two state solution problem. It's a
ridiculous notion. It's basically saying, if I give them this
portion of land inside Israel, they'll be happy. No, they
won't because they don't want a portion of Israel. They
want all of Israel. And they don't want all of Israel.
They want all the world, and you will be defeated
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and you will submit to Islamist rule. You will be taxed,
or you will be killed. Therefore, the scenario becomes, you
can't have coexistence because one side doesn't see the others
right to exist. That's like a cancer. As cancer grows,
you die. As cancer is eliminated. You live in war.
(23:15):
The enemy has a say, and it either wins or
it's defeated. Now that doesn't mean you can't have an
end to this conflict. And this is what Israel is
tired of. Whoever the Dajure radical Islamist sect is attacking,
whether it's Muslim Brotherhood, whether it's Hasbellah, whether it's Hamas,
(23:38):
whether it's the Houthis, whether.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
It's the Muslim brother it doesn't matter the plo.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
They attack, they kill, they take hostages.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Eventually we pound them, they release.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
The hostages, and then they regroup for eight years and
we do it all over again. Now what makes this
different is they wouldn't give back the hostages. And it
kept going on and on, and it took Donald Trump
to get in the middle of it, get the living
hostages returned, get the beginning of the bodies and remains
of those who died returned, but created a coalition of
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the Arab world and Muslim reasonable nations to oversee this
territory inside Israel, hopefully for a future without thugs. But
already the thugs are trying to assert their control and
are killing people. They're jeopardizing twenty four hours in this
peace process, and the President making it clear they will
(24:38):
disarm or we will disarm them. So I suspect there'll
be some violent turbulence, if you will, in this flight
towards peace. But he goes on to say, well, Hamas
is a significant group the negotiators are dealing with. There
are other factions within the group who have their own
method and rule. I liken it to methodist negotiating on
(25:00):
half of Jehovah witnesses. Well, that's not that, Samples and Norths.
There's no question this is Amas in this territory. Now
the ultimate you know, it could be some that radically
don't agree with their leadership and they don't plan to
be to cease fire. My concern is that this is
(25:20):
a first and foremost a game Hamas is playing, and
you just release two thousand proven terrorists and convicted killers
to get your twenty live hostages back. They got reinforcements coming,
and if he keeps sending aid, they got aid coming.
I don't know how they thought they could reneg this
quickly and get away with it. Or it's some within
(25:45):
Hamas who aren't taking their leadership's deals seriously. Either way,
they either leave, disarm and leave, or they get disarmed
and killed. This is why my concern was over selling
what had been accomplished, because in the narrativevized United States
(26:06):
of America, where people hate Trump more than they love
their country, or love Israel or love peace. They wanted
you to build this up so they could tear you
down with it. And I'm surprised there's not already articles
Nobel Peace Prize. This piece didn't hold for twenty four hours.
It's coming probably sooner than later. Appreciate the email Bill
(26:33):
Michael Dee. In my opinion, the government won't open for
quite some time.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
And here's why. HAKEM.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Jeffries and Chuckie Schumer both see their power based slipping
as the socialist arm of the DNC gain popularity, and
this would cause them to lose power on Chuckie Schumer,
I agree, I don't know that HACKEM. Jeffries isn't a
part of that far left of the party. Plus those
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in government the House and Senate won't miss the paycheck
during the shutdown. That could change. This shutdown is a
way to flex their muscle. Plus it takes it makes
Trump look bad. I wouldn't be surprised to see Trump
fire hegg Seth because he didn't pay the military today.
Enjoy the show listen money through Friday in Lexington, Kentucky. Well,
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you're a you're a very special lister. I don't even
think we're on in Lexington, Kentucky. Army. Yeah, and I
know you're not hearing Nashville from Lexington, Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
All right, So on that point, I don't know that
about about Heg Sath.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
I do know that Christy Nome announced that the National
Guard and the Coast Guard, uh, they're going to be
getting their pay. Now, what about the rest of the military.
We went through the poll. America is ticking towards blaming
the Democrats. The longer this goes on and when that
starts beginning to a tipping point, And as far as
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I'm concerned, even if you solved it today on the
twentieth of November. You're right back in this position again,
so you might as well get it straight. If it
lingers all the way to November, get both of them done,
and for goodness sakes, next year, how about somebody introduce
a prioritized, zero based, balanced budget tied to the two
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years of legislature. Let's stop playing this game of growing government,
growing control, and continuing resolutions and growing debt. We're still
not getting to the big question. What is the proper
size and role of government? What is the role and
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the responsibility of the self governed? And whose fault is this?
Both all of the above, But you know how that
game plays when the midterm rolls around.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Oh, all of Congress is worthless. Mine.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
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Speaker 8 (29:18):
This is how I learned how to tell miss Tippy
in my cricket letter. Cricket letter, I cricket letter, Cricket letter,
I help back back eye. Hey, my mom taught me
a lot of things. Can you riddle me? This railroad
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Speaker 3 (29:32):
Can you spell that? Without any hours? Have a good day,
you guys, love your show.
Speaker 8 (29:36):
Guys eating lunch at a monastery restaurant, sees a monk
slicing potatoes.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
He asks the monk, are you the friar?
Speaker 8 (29:44):
The monk says, no, I'm the chipmunk.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Morning, Michael.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
With all due respect to your earlier caller on how
much air traffic controllers earn in salary, put it in
your position if you get a Social Security check and
it doesn't show up in your bank account and it's
kind of panic time, You've got to figure out what
to do, and there's someone to call. Federal employees don't
speak out because they are subject to the Hatch Act,
(30:12):
So silent protests like calling in sick is pretty much
what they can do.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Now, obviously social Security is not interrupted, but the analogy
is the same, and that's and that's usually what brings
an end to these as well. Keep the talkbacks, I
say that halfheartedly. Keep some of the talkbacks coming. All right,
if you're just waking up fifty four minutes after the
hour of the government shutdown continues. After the Senate once
(30:37):
again rejected a Republican backed funding measure last night, President
Trump warns AMAS, you will disarm or we will disarm you,
and multiple media outlets are refusing to agree to the
Pentagon's new press policies. Meanwhile, the US Secretary of Wall
Pete Hegsap is meeting with NATO and defense ministers later today.
(30:57):
Rory on the shutdown. Even if it ended today, I
might add, we'd be right back here in twenty days,
but last night was a failure. Any other attempts coming today. Yeah,
it's interesting.
Speaker 9 (31:08):
We're hearing more rumblings about senators saying, let's not even
bother because nothing's changed in the what eight votes that
they've taken so far, So there really isn't much of
a push to have another vote just for the sake
of having a vote at this point. Even yesterday the
Republicans lost John Fetterman, the Democrat from Pennsylvania who had
crossed over because he didn't even go to yesterday's session
(31:30):
for the vote. So you know, there's the definition of insanity.
I suppose unfolding there.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.
I did a poll earlier this morning. I don't think
it'll shock you, and forty one percent of those polled
blame Donald Trump and the Republican Party for the shutdown,
thirty percent blamed Democrats, twenty percent, in my opinion, rightly
blame both. But that's ticking and ry for the Democrats.
(32:02):
So as you trend this the longer at last, they
seem to be pointing at the Democrats more, suggesting perhaps
the Republican narrative of this is a clean bill, just.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Like the one they approved.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
What they're trying to do is relegislate the big, beautiful
bill that should be done by after winning an election.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
That seems to be resonating a little bit.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
I don't know if following that scoreboard might lead to
them finally talking seriously, But after watching the speaker reveal
the tactics of Chucky Schumer, I would say these two
are very much too dysfunctional to sit down and have
meaningful conversation.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
There. How is that for saying it all politically correct? Well,
there you go.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
But I also think that the senators are to the
point of, look, we've got the senators are the ones
and well more so the House members, but they're sort
of locked out. But the Senators are the ones saying, look,
we're starting to hear about it back home, whereas people
are struggling, they're not getting paychecks, they're starting to have issues.
So the senators outside of leadership for saying, hey, we've
already got eighty percent of the budget for twenty twenty
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six done, let's get let's talk that another twenty percent
and see if we can bypass this whole see our
business and just pass a budget.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah, and you know how this always plays out too.
The minute the air traffic controllers start calling in sick
or you know, so on, and it disrupts travel and
disrupts business, the tone changes quickly and then they suddenly
find ways to talk. But even when they do, to
know that we're going to be right back at this
in three weeks now.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
I don't want to report for work.
Speaker 9 (33:34):
Well that's why, yeah, that's why the talk is, let's
just talk a bill for next year. Let's not even
bother with this November twenty first, nonsense, let's just go
into the budget for next year. That's been more the
rumbling up there, because really they're not negotiating at all.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Right now, great reporting as always, Roy O'Neil, our national correspondent.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
We'll talk again tomorrow. We're all in this together. This
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October the fifteenth. The government shutdown continues. The Senate once
again rejected a Republican backed funding measure. The finger pointing
and blame game of the Republicans and the Democrats and
of the American people as to who's to blame for
this shutdown is all quite laughable, considering even if they
(01:31):
get over this, you're right.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Back here in three weeks.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
That's how fiscally irresponsible they can't even figure out how
to kick the can four weeks towards thirty seven trillion
dollars of debt. I say both are to blame. President
warns if a Moas doesn't disarm, will disarm them as
(01:56):
Hamas or portions of Hamas haven't obviously gotten the memo.
Trying to reassert their control in the Gaza piece is
having some turbulence, and the Dodgers are headed home up
two games to nothing, as the Mariners are already home
up two games to nothing, playing the Blue Jays tonight
at seven o eight looks like a blue Jay Marinder
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World Series is.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
On the horizon.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Who is finton O'Toole? Why is the Atlantic using him
as a tool to redefine our Republic's intent? Our senior contributor,
David Sanadi is joining us to walk us through this
revealing journey of discovery as we approach the two hundred
and fifty year celebration of the Declaration of Independence. I
(02:41):
would think they're revealing at least their entire playbook through
this mysterious finton o'tool David care to share with us
in this journey of discovery?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Who this man is?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Good morning, Michael. You have thirty seconds or the orchestra
begins to play. That was hilarious.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
No, we really do that though.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
If you go longer than thirty seconds, the orchestra kicks in.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Oh my gosh, that's hilarious. I'm going to call it
just to find out what that sounds like.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
It sounds just like this, and we thank you, Jo
you Lo.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I have to compliment you.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
No, I have to compliment you because you very early
on discerned at the American Policy Roundtable that this two
hundred I'm going to use your words here and you're
going to giggle. And for the people at home, it's
because this is one of his expressions. You recognized and
discerned early that the two hundred and fifty years celebration
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of the Declaration of Independence and our Republic was a
really big deal.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
And not a lot.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Of people, I mean, we knew it was common and
people talked about like fireworks and so on. No, you
knew it was going to be a defining war over
what the intent of our republic is. And so did
the And they came out early with their editor and
they made it all about revolution, not about inalienable rights,
(04:07):
not about a nation under God to from which liberty
and freedom comes. And then this was like the next
volley after that introductory editor's opinion piece comes Fitton, no tool,
I mean, I can get you started. Is fitting no tools?
Some kind of historian, some kind of an American constitutional attorney?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Who is he? Well, let's take a step right to
where you are. And that's the Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlantic.
It sort of it chairs, if you will.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
He's the chairman of the intellectual fountain, head of how
the corporate media of America and academia is going to
interpret the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary because The Atlantic
has assembled a group of writers and some scholars, and
they're going to now tell us about our founding and
tell us about our declaration. And what they chose to
(05:06):
do was to go early, and mister Goldberg sent all
of us an email and basically said, we're going early
because we're afraid we're going to be overwhelmed by all
the other media. So we're starting in November, which is
right now for them. The November publication has now been
released over five days. It's released online with huge media attention,
and they're sending out news releases everywhere. And what they're
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basically calling the two hundred and fiftieth celebration is an
Unfinished Revolution. That's the title that overrides everything, the Unfinished Revolution.
I did a word count the other night, and our
team verified, because sometimes I don't count all that well.
There are one four hundred and fifty eight words in
the Declaration of Independence, and revolution is not one of them.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I don't think anyway.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I don't think you needed your staff to count that,
all right, So first, first and foremost, the Atlantic, I'm
this is a little bit of review because we get
new affiliates and new listeners every day. We all know
that there's media bias. We all know it's turned into
death of journalism. And now we have narratives and narrative repeating.
That's all we have. But when it comes to the
Atlantic and to some degree the Washington Post, they set
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the tone, and the Associated Press they set the tone.
So what David just said is no small thing. They
are setting the mission, setting the battlefield, settling, you know,
and getting the narrative set for the intelligentsia, meaning every
professor in every classroom, and for the media. So they're
(06:42):
getting ABCNBCCBSCNN, MSNBC, Washington Post, New York Times, axios all
on the same page, Harvard, any college, university campus, all
on the same page that the two hundred and fiftieth
celebration of the Declaration of Independence and the formation of
our Republic is unfinished revolution.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
That is a huge Look, this is.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Going to fall under a brag and David, I'm going
to break a commandment and I'll repent after the show.
This is going to become very clear to a lot
of people in talk radio. Unfortunately, four months into the battle,
five months into the battle. So we're way about.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Six months or six months after it's over or six months. Ag, well,
that would be tragic.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
This is as David would saying, this is a big deal,
all right, fittin o tool.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
This one's laughable. Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
So what Jeffrey Goldberg has done now is assembled a
whole bunch of writers and now they've released over they're
releasing five chapters.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
They're all released now of the Unfinished Revolution.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And Finch and O'Toole is one of the writers in
the series, and so his article is now released now.
I mean, this gets pretty funny because finc and O'Toole,
first off, isn't an American citizen, never.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Has been, all right.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
So he's writing in our article for The Atlantic, and
it's a really important article because it's titled what the
Founders would Say?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
What would the Founder? He doesn't ask the question what
would the founders say? This is what this By the way,
I'm coming out with this. I'm coming out.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
With a piece later this afternoon, David, I'm with the
founders of Ireland.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Uh would say about the.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, this is what the founders would say? In other words,
so we've got an Irish citizen and who's not. By
the way, this man is a He's a theater critic,
that's his his his focus is theater in the arts,
and that is not being said laughably. Okay, this man
is very credible. He's written an interesting book on Shakespeare.
He's been a theater critic in Ireland and four some
(08:44):
American publications as well. He is a brilliant storyteller and
a very good writer. He's written a whole boatload of books,
none of them on the American Founding, not one.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Now, he's a really good writer, but he's a little out.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Of his subject us area.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
But that's one of the lead documents in the release
of The Unfinished Revolution is from an Irish theater critic
who's basically again, brilliant author in his field, great storyteller,
but is not a citizen and has never published on
the founding. Those of us that have spent fifty years
or more in the study of the founding go hmm.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
That's kind of interesting.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
But in any case, he has the right to speak,
and mister Goldberg has the right to publish him. So, okay,
but this is one of the things we start with,
and he's telling us what the founders would say, now,
of course, everything that he brings to the table is
in this scorture ping pong match or tennis match. Back
and forth, says a good thing and then spikes the
(09:45):
ball down their throat, says a good thing, and then
knocks them on.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Their tail end.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
It's this passive, aggressive, bipolar back and forth sort of rhetoric.
Make sure, at the end of the day, I just
believe they wouldn't like anything about where we are right now,
because the whole thing's.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Just a mess. David Sanatti is the ust tool.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yeah, David Sanatti is the co host of The Public Square,
heard on two hundred stations, and you know, David gets uncomfortable.
This feels like a shameless plug. I don't mean it
this way. It's just here on your morning show, our
segments are shorter. That's why sometimes you think I'm being
interruptive and I'm just trying to get everything in, whereas
on the Public Square they have a longer time. And
(10:25):
I'm sure this is going to come up on the
Public Square. This is a very very talented writer who's
been given a mission to write a very very talented
narrative of which he has not qualified to discuss, but
it's setting the tone of unfinished revolution and revising history
completely from a non expert out of context. Why is
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this so important for them to do? What about the
Declaration of Independence?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
David?
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Do they not want us to look at, study read?
Why is it that that document is almost like when
you're watching The Exorcist and the priest holds up across
I mean, you know, Linda Blair starts going crazy. What
is it about the Left and the Declaration of Independence?
They don't want you to see it. They don't want
you to read it, they don't want you to memorize it,
(11:15):
and they sure a is that don't want you to
have it in historic context. Why do they fear this
document so much?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Well because they have to outsource its origins. Because if
you really study the people who wrote it, their lives,
their beliefs, you come to the conclusion of gkh Esterton,
by the way, also not an American citizen, the British
author who spoke about this in the nineteen twenties and thirties,
that the Declaration is America's creed, it's our founding creed.
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It's a statement of worldview and beliefs based upon self
evident truth that are transcendent, not flat earth, uniquely human.
The transcendence of the document terrifies them because transcendence says
we're not alone. There is a God and he is watching.
And that's what they despise, not just watching. His nature matters.
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He is a way, a truth, and a life, and
one we must acknowledge before we can be a republic.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I always love when I walk into business and there
are very few and their mission statement is right on
the wall. I think it's important for their employees to
look at every day. I think it's important for their
customers to see every day. I will give my Catholic
brothers and sisters this praise. I think every church, not
(12:33):
just the Catholic Church, ought to recite the Creed in
every service to remind ourselves what we believe. And that's
the power of a creed. This is the Creed for
a nation, kind of like the Pledge is our war cry.
That's our creed, and there is a war going on
and it's not in the spirit realm, it's in the
matrix and depth of journalism realm to redefine our founding,
(12:59):
redefine our intent and frighteningly in this time of great
you know, violence, dare to redefine us at two hundred
and fifty years old, in the midst of turmoil is
unfinished revolution as opposed to one nation under God, indovisible
with liberty and justice for all. So this is important
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and I love the way you do that. Most people look,
most people this will go right over their head. Most
people just see phantom tools, start reading his eloquence and
rewriting of history and not even think about it. I
mean kudos to you for always seeing an author and going, well,
who's this Only to find a theater critic and an
Irish citizen who has never published anything on our founding fathers,
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our Republic or any of our documents.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
That's a journey of discovery. David. Good job.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Well, it gets worse, but we've got more time. Not
on the fourth as you're live, mister Goldberg has many
more surprises for us. Now again, Michael, Well, we're going
to talk about this a lot more. We're going to
talk about it this week on the Public Square as well,
so people can always.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Visit us there to learn more.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Yeah, and the Public Square can be heard on demand
anytime at the public Square dot com and on two
hundred stations nationwide, and hopefully we'll visit again tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
David, thank you so much.
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We covered premature proclamations because well, for one, we have
Flip who if he's not a minister, he should be.
He just sounds like one.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Mike Lee, what did the potato chips say to the battery?
If you're ever ready I'm free to lay. That doesn't
even know what that means.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Well, if you're the ever ready battery, I'm even start
free to l free to lay potatoes to stop flip
from the First Baptist Church of Our Lady of Holy
Sorrow with a potato chip joke. No lais is daring
to do like all the other disastrous rebrands, i e.
(17:00):
Cracker Barrel changing the potato chip bag from one hundred years.
This can't be good. Two real potatoes, which I don't
think anybody ever accused them of using fake to pay potatoes,
and we're dealing with potato chips.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Next up is Bob and I s Si s Sippi.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I'd just like to be clear, I'm not afraid of
the dark. I'm afraid of what's in the dark.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
But clip I I can relate. That has to do
with a pre tennis story that's coming up in moments
from now that we have played earlier. This is Columbus, Georgia.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Can't figure out why the news keeps talking about the
hardships of air traffic.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Controllers during the government shutdown.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
When air traffic controllers make one hundred and forty four
thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
If I made one hundred and forty four thousand dollars
a year, I imagine.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I'd be able to miss a few paychecks and it
wouldn't hurt a leg. One.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
I love you, Thank you for calling. Be careful. That's
you know. I don't want to play the game the
left place, which is envy that anybody who has more
than me has too much or has no room to complain.
The reality is one hundred and forty four thousand dollars
years and what it used to be depending on what
city or an air traffic controller're in, and that would vary.
(18:26):
Number Two, It has been my experience, and I'll use
me as an example. Doesn't matter how much I make,
I tend to spend ten dollars more.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
So.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
It's a it's a problem in America that we live
above our means, and so some live above their means
at fifty thousand, some at two hundred thousand. I suspect
if I made a half a million dollars a year,
I'd find a way to struggle.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
But yeah, I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
That's the focus because in the past that's the only
thing during shutdown that has gotten really disruptive. After a
couple of weeks and they'll start using vacation and they'll
start calling in sick, and then we start having travel issues.
That's why when we did our polls of plenty, it
was important to look at who's everybody blaming, and it's
(19:16):
shifting towards the Democrats, because the minute the Democrats realize
this political theater is a losing game for them, oh
will suddenly strike a deal only to be right back
in the same position in exactly twenty six days from now.
Jake is on w listening on WLAC and Nashville. Michael,
let me know if you ever want to come down
and play Henry Horton State.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Park golf course.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
I can get us a free round night.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Am I the only one that thinks that Fenton though
tool sounds like Fenton Old. Well, it is interesting. There
is going to be a war over our republics intent,
and they're going to seize this two hundred and fiftieth
birthday of the Declaration of Independence in our republic to
wage that war, and the Atlantic it informs universities and
(20:01):
the mass media, that of course is biased and in
the back pocket of the far left. They're going to
make it about unfinished revolution, and they're using Fentn O'Toole,
who is an Irishman, not an American, has never written
about There's no evidence he's ever even studied our founding
or founding fathers or founding documents. He's a theater critic
(20:24):
and a very good writer. He is their follow up
volley from their editor's opening statement, this is not about
one nation under God, in divisible with liberty and justice
for all that comes from God. This is about unfinished
revolution business. But yeah, now that you mention it, say
(20:45):
it fast enough, it'll sound like Ventanyl Keith is in Youngstown, Ohio.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Michael.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
I'm listening to your discussion about the two hundred and
fiftieth anniversary of our declaration and the Atlantic piece four
pieces that have been released, and I can't help but
think that this is very similar to the publication of
the sixteen nineteen project that came out of the New
(21:11):
York Times. Revision is history at its best.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Well, that's been their game plan all along, right, take
the indoctrination and socialization over education from our universities and
bring it all the way close to the parents' home
and common education K through twelve the youth of the
vanguard of the future. Play to the youth and don't
(21:37):
educate them, give them revised history, socialization and indoctrination, and
then reinforce it with the other thing you can control,
Hollywood and television, so the movies reinforce it, the sitcoms,
the dramas reinforce it. As you rewrite reality with revised
history already rewritten by the intelligentsia, and then shift everything
(22:03):
into a crazy matrix where you can actually not just
revise history and rewrite reality, you can create alternative realities
and then at ai to the mix. Now you're really
having fun. You can always email me at Michael d
atiheartmedia dot com. Find someone more adept at Islamic rule
in the Gaza than me. It's a pretty brief history.
(22:28):
This speaks to the two state solution problem. It's a
ridiculous notion. It's basically saying, if I give them this
portion of land inside Israel, they'll be happy. No, they
won't because they don't want a portion of Israel. They
want all of Israel. And they don't want all of Israel.
They want all the world, and you will be defeated
(22:48):
and you will submit to Islamist rule. You will be taxed,
or you will be killed. Therefore, the scenario becomes, you
can't have coexistence because one side doesn't see the others
right to exist. That's like a cancer. As cancer grows,
you die. As cancer is eliminated. You live in war.
(23:15):
The enemy has a say, and it either wins or
it's defeated. Now that doesn't mean you can't have an
end to this conflict. And this is what Israel is
tired of. Whoever the Dajure radical Islamist sect is attacking,
whether it's Muslim Brotherhood, whether it's Hasbellah, whether it's Hamas,
(23:38):
whether it's the Houthis, whether.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
It's the Muslim brother it doesn't matter the plo.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
They attack, they kill, they take hostages.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Eventually we pound them, they release.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
The hostages, and then they regroup for eight years and
we do it all over again. Now what makes this
different is they wouldn't give back the hostages. And it
kept going on and on, and it took Donald Trump
to get in the middle of it, get the living
hostages returned, get the beginning of the bodies and remains
of those who died returned, but created a coalition of
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the Arab world and Muslim reasonable nations to oversee this
territory inside Israel, hopefully for a future without thugs. But
already the thugs are trying to assert their control and
are killing people. They're jeopardizing twenty four hours in this
peace process, and the President making it clear they will
(24:38):
disarm or we will disarm them. So I suspect there'll
be some violent turbulence, if you will, in this flight
towards peace. But he goes on to say, well, Hamas
is a significant group the negotiators are dealing with. There
are other factions within the group who have their own
method and rule. I liken it to methodist negotiating on
(25:00):
half of Jehovah witnesses. Well, that's not that, Samples and Norths.
There's no question this is Amas in this territory. Now
the ultimate you know, it could be some that radically
don't agree with their leadership and they don't plan to
be to cease fire. My concern is that this is
(25:20):
a first and foremost a game Hamas is playing, and
you just release two thousand proven terrorists and convicted killers
to get your twenty live hostages back. They got reinforcements coming,
and if he keeps sending aid, they got aid coming.
I don't know how they thought they could reneg this
quickly and get away with it. Or it's some within
(25:45):
Hamas who aren't taking their leadership's deals seriously. Either way,
they either leave, disarm and leave, or they get disarmed
and killed. This is why my concern was over selling
what had been accomplished, because in the narrativevized United States
(26:06):
of America, where people hate Trump more than they love
their country, or love Israel or love peace. They wanted
you to build this up so they could tear you
down with it. And I'm surprised there's not already articles
Nobel Peace Prize. This piece didn't hold for twenty four hours.
It's coming probably sooner than later. Appreciate the email Bill
(26:33):
Michael Dee. In my opinion, the government won't open for
quite some time.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
And here's why. HAKEM.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Jeffries and Chuckie Schumer both see their power based slipping
as the socialist arm of the DNC gain popularity, and
this would cause them to lose power on Chuckie Schumer,
I agree, I don't know that HACKEM. Jeffries isn't a
part of that far left of the party. Plus those
(27:00):
in government the House and Senate won't miss the paycheck
during the shutdown. That could change. This shutdown is a
way to flex their muscle. Plus it takes it makes
Trump look bad. I wouldn't be surprised to see Trump
fire hegg Seth because he didn't pay the military today.
Enjoy the show listen money through Friday in Lexington, Kentucky. Well,
(27:23):
you're a you're a very special lister. I don't even
think we're on in Lexington, Kentucky. Army. Yeah, and I
know you're not hearing Nashville from Lexington, Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
All right, So on that point, I don't know that
about about Heg Sath.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
I do know that Christy Nome announced that the National
Guard and the Coast Guard, uh, they're going to be
getting their pay. Now, what about the rest of the military.
We went through the poll. America is ticking towards blaming
the Democrats. The longer this goes on and when that
starts beginning to a tipping point, And as far as
(28:01):
I'm concerned, even if you solved it today on the
twentieth of November. You're right back in this position again,
so you might as well get it straight. If it
lingers all the way to November, get both of them done,
and for goodness sakes, next year, how about somebody introduce
a prioritized, zero based, balanced budget tied to the two
(28:24):
years of legislature. Let's stop playing this game of growing government,
growing control, and continuing resolutions and growing debt. We're still
not getting to the big question. What is the proper
size and role of government? What is the role and
(28:44):
the responsibility of the self governed? And whose fault is this?
Both all of the above, But you know how that
game plays when the midterm rolls around.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Oh, all of Congress is worthless. Mine.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Keep the emails, keep the talkbacks coming. Can't have your
morning show without your voice. You'll find the talkback button,
which is a microphone on the iHeartRadio app. Of course,
you can always email me at Michael d at iHeartMedia
dot com.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
It's your morning show with Michael del Chino.
Speaker 8 (29:18):
This is how I learned how to tell miss Tippy
in my cricket letter. Cricket letter, I cricket letter, Cricket letter,
I help back back eye. Hey, my mom taught me
a lot of things. Can you riddle me? This railroad
passing look out for the cars?
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Can you spell that? Without any hours? Have a good day,
you guys, love your show.
Speaker 8 (29:36):
Guys eating lunch at a monastery restaurant, sees a monk
slicing potatoes.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
He asks the monk, are you the friar?
Speaker 8 (29:44):
The monk says, no, I'm the chipmunk.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Morning, Michael.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
With all due respect to your earlier caller on how
much air traffic controllers earn in salary, put it in
your position if you get a Social Security check and
it doesn't show up in your bank account and it's
kind of panic time, You've got to figure out what
to do, and there's someone to call. Federal employees don't
speak out because they are subject to the Hatch Act,
(30:12):
So silent protests like calling in sick is pretty much
what they can do.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Now, obviously social Security is not interrupted, but the analogy
is the same, and that's and that's usually what brings
an end to these as well. Keep the talkbacks, I
say that halfheartedly. Keep some of the talkbacks coming. All right,
if you're just waking up fifty four minutes after the
hour of the government shutdown continues. After the Senate once
(30:37):
again rejected a Republican backed funding measure last night, President
Trump warns AMAS, you will disarm or we will disarm you,
and multiple media outlets are refusing to agree to the
Pentagon's new press policies. Meanwhile, the US Secretary of Wall
Pete Hegsap is meeting with NATO and defense ministers later today.
(30:57):
Rory on the shutdown. Even if it ended today, I
might add, we'd be right back here in twenty days,
but last night was a failure. Any other attempts coming today. Yeah,
it's interesting.
Speaker 9 (31:08):
We're hearing more rumblings about senators saying, let's not even
bother because nothing's changed in the what eight votes that
they've taken so far, So there really isn't much of
a push to have another vote just for the sake
of having a vote at this point. Even yesterday the
Republicans lost John Fetterman, the Democrat from Pennsylvania who had
crossed over because he didn't even go to yesterday's session
(31:30):
for the vote. So you know, there's the definition of insanity.
I suppose unfolding there.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.
I did a poll earlier this morning. I don't think
it'll shock you, and forty one percent of those polled
blame Donald Trump and the Republican Party for the shutdown,
thirty percent blamed Democrats, twenty percent, in my opinion, rightly
blame both. But that's ticking and ry for the Democrats.
(32:02):
So as you trend this the longer at last, they
seem to be pointing at the Democrats more, suggesting perhaps
the Republican narrative of this is a clean bill, just.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Like the one they approved.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
What they're trying to do is relegislate the big, beautiful
bill that should be done by after winning an election.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
That seems to be resonating a little bit.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
I don't know if following that scoreboard might lead to
them finally talking seriously, But after watching the speaker reveal
the tactics of Chucky Schumer, I would say these two
are very much too dysfunctional to sit down and have
meaningful conversation.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
There. How is that for saying it all politically correct? Well,
there you go.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
But I also think that the senators are to the
point of, look, we've got the senators are the ones
and well more so the House members, but they're sort
of locked out. But the Senators are the ones saying, look,
we're starting to hear about it back home, whereas people
are struggling, they're not getting paychecks, they're starting to have issues.
So the senators outside of leadership for saying, hey, we've
already got eighty percent of the budget for twenty twenty
(33:05):
six done, let's get let's talk that another twenty percent
and see if we can bypass this whole see our
business and just pass a budget.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah, and you know how this always plays out too.
The minute the air traffic controllers start calling in sick
or you know, so on, and it disrupts travel and
disrupts business, the tone changes quickly and then they suddenly
find ways to talk. But even when they do, to
know that we're going to be right back at this
in three weeks now.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
I don't want to report for work.
Speaker 9 (33:34):
Well that's why, yeah, that's why the talk is, let's
just talk a bill for next year. Let's not even
bother with this November twenty first, nonsense, let's just go
into the budget for next year. That's been more the
rumbling up there, because really they're not negotiating at all.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Right now, great reporting as always, Roy O'Neil, our national correspondent.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
We'll talk again tomorrow. We're all in this together. This
is your Morning Show with Michael vindheld Jo now
Speaker 4 (34:01):
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