10-24-25 YMS HR1 Gambling scandal…who would have thunk it??!!

Gambling scandal…who would have thunk it??!! 

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This is your morning show with Michael O'Dell Chorna.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Good morning one and all, and welcome to Friday. There's
a special Friday for Jeffrey. He's getting ready to finally
have a big When's the last time you had a
week off? Last Christmas? Last Christmas? First time I've been
out of like on a vacation out of the state
in seven years. Wow, you believe that I worked with

(00:57):
a guy named Rick Corey in Tulsa, Oklahoma. He alway
claimed your final day at work before a vacation is
the best of the all the days I may not
be here right now, because once this is over, you'll
just be you'll be counting, Oh, I got eight day,
seven days, six days, five. But right now it's all
in front of you, plus your vacations. Let's face it,

(01:20):
likely to be a little lousy, but right now the
expectations are high. Nothing could possibly go wrong or be aggravating,
nothing could be unenjoyable. Like you know, day three of
your vacation, where you're sitting there and you don't want
to say it out loud, especially in front of your spouse.
Stop it right now. I really miss Michael. I'd much
rather be at work right now. That's a horrifying thing.

(01:41):
When it happens, I'm going to put my feet in
the sand and let God remind me of how small
I am sitting next to an ocean. Well, you enjoy
your week off. You're a big part of this show.
You're faithful. You never miss read. Of course, was in
the mountains, hiking, drinking whatever he drinks along as Sime
dream read. When a year and a half without a vacation,

(02:04):
Yeah no, but it helps. Look how he came back.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Refreshed texts from Jeffrey saying is this true?

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Is this true? Actually? Actually you never know? Yeah, he
gets the he gets the price for the the views
anyway that he had though he didn't have good cell service,
he couldn't get to Chauncey Phillips to get his tips.
All right, So the big story the NBA head coach
and player could be players could be more coaches. Cash

(02:34):
betell In The FBI says this is an ongoing investigation
and there could be more arrest coming. Uh, it's already
pretty big. We'll get reaction from Shaq, who forgets your
innocent until proven guilty, and then from Kenny Smith, who
doesn't forget your innocent until proven guilty. But we'll get
their reaction. Red basically said, well, this ought to just

(02:56):
wind up Michael, and then three hours will be over Look.
It's laughable to think as a culture we can turn
to gaming as a solution that legalizing gambling is somehow
going to be beneficial. You want to bet, No, I
don't want to bet, but you know, and I've been

(03:18):
down this road, even wrote a book on this. I
was going to write a second book and got a
warning and decided not to write it. But legalized gaming,
you know, obviously you can make the case that it
brings in tax revenue and Tennessee We had a situation
where a governor thought he was, you know, doing something
really smart. We are not going to allow casinos in

(03:39):
our state, but we will allow sports betting. Are you
kidding me? Do you think casino owners want to own
buildings deal with you pay for cooks and waiters and
waitresses and dealers and maids and rooms and buffets. You

(03:59):
just handed them a twenty four hour a day product
that they pay nothing to create that people can bet.
I'll never forget in one city that had casino gave
me and I would go over the stats of problem gambling,
pathological gambling, and what that costs a community and crime

(04:22):
and other things. Lose gambling. Now, there's a difference when
you've got to drive five hours to it or fly
all the way to the desert for it, compared to
passing it every day on your way home. And suddenly
there were children one hundred degree days left in cars

(04:45):
because mom just wanted to pull a few slots but
then got hot. Meanwhile the kid was roasting, or the
money laundering at the table, or the prostitution, or the
drugs or the gangs, or are you kidding me? You're
gonna have legalized sports betting. It's every commercial. Look, if

(05:08):
you're watching news and information, that's all you see is
prescription drugs. If you're watching sports, all you see are
ads for betting. I don't know where Tiede went. I
missed the good old days of Nabisco Ford Chevy, but

(05:29):
a big shock. We have a sports betting mafia backed
poker scheme headline. So what happens when you have gambling?
Well one addiction. Addiction for the people that are legally gaming. Now, Look,

(05:50):
I don't know why it is. I have friends who
have struggled with alcohol. They are recovering alcoholics. For me,
I could have a drink to probably won't even if
I did, I wouldn't maybe for four months, and they
would look at me and go, man, that's insane. That's

(06:11):
the way I look at smokers. My dad was that way.
My dad could have a cigarette when he was fishing
and I go, Dad, why are you lighting the outside
of the cigarette? Well, I only have like one every
five months and they get stale. By the way, if
you've never done that, you just you hold it. You
can you hold the fire underneath the sides of the

(06:32):
cigarette and it'll take an old, stale cigarette and make
it taste fresh. O kidden. But I would look at
him like you're a zoo animal. You're a freak, because
Jeffrey knows we're one puff away from a solid pack
a day without missing a beat. I miss you, Marlborough Line.
So everybody has these predispositions to certain things and the

(06:55):
dopamine that is created. Well for an addicted gambler, you
you fall one of two ways. Problem gambler. A problem
gambler will not stop till all their money's gone. So
they're sitting right next to their wife. She thinks Bill
had a rough day at work. We're going to disney
World later next month. No you're not. He just lost,

(07:16):
don't be. I have got so much cleaning to do
this we get. No, you don't. We just lost the house.
You've just been cleaned. You've just been cleaned out. But
that's how good I mean that to me is what
you know? At least I have been in Vegas or
a woman. I'll I'll bout two things I'll never forget.
Why a guy drop This guy next to me goes

(07:36):
pull my bets and he dropped dead at my feet.
That was his last words, pull my bets and they're
working on him, they're trying to revive them, right right
at our feet, and the pit boss comes by and
goes keep dealing, keep dealing, And we were like, we
gotta we got to play a couple of hands while
this guy's dying. And he was clearly dead. I mean,

(07:59):
he wasn't coming back back. But that's nothing compared to
the woman who was at a blackjack table pulling on
her husband, weeping, please stop, come on, please, I'll never it.
It haunts me. So a problem gambler will lose until

(08:20):
they have nothing. A pathological gambler doesn't stop there. Once
they've lost everything, they start stealing to gamble. Now you
have rising crime and crime and prostitution and drugs and
you name it. And if any chief of police, after

(08:46):
they've just opened two casinos in their small town that
they've never had, suddenly wonders why they have so many
car break ins and burglaries and armed robberies, I'd like
to slap right across the face. Not because you were
dumb enough to wonder why all of a sudden, which
is what today's entire news cycle suggests. That we were

(09:09):
dumb enough to go down this road and think it
was all cool and fun and every now and then
run a Okay, the gamely problem gonna laters and that
makes it all better. No, but for being silent when
it was proposed. This was a train wreck waiting to happen.
So what comes with gambling addiction? What else? Financial hardship?

(09:32):
What happens with financial hardship? Oh, Kids' lives are destroyed,
their futures are irreparably harmed, Families are broken up, and
dependence on government rises, and it rises along with crime
beyond any revenue that has created impact on the families,
social inequality, crime and corruption. Legalize gaming attracts organized crime.

(09:58):
Your chat GPT would tell you that first. So before
we ever even get into this story today, you're shocked
that there was a mafia back to poker scheme. The
mental health consequence is the anxiety, the depression, the substance
abuse that all goes through the roof. Community impacts short

(10:19):
term boost but long term declines as spending shifts from
local businesses to casinos. I'm on a tass Oklahoma right now.
You don't go to a concert, You don't go to
any event that isn't in a casino. Sorry, there's a delay.
That didn't mean to be in a no. Sorry.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
I was like listening to Cash Betel going on and
on about Lakosa Nostra and this didn't you feel like
you were in Godfather too? I mean, do you want
to know what my first thought is? The long pause
was me saying do I want to say this out loud?
On one hundred and seven radio stations. I thought, this

(10:58):
whole candidate conspiracy trap is beginning. If something happened to
Donald Trump today? Was it a ginned up trunch Trump,
deranged leftist?

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Was it a transgender? Was it a gang member? Was
it the mafia? Now with the crackdown, this is everything
that led up to John F. Kennedy's killing, only instead
of Cuba, insert Venezuela and drugs and not missiles, mafia,
poker games, sports betting. I mean, this whole thing is

(11:42):
you talk about.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Day and this is basketball. When do we have version
of football in baseball?

Speaker 1 (11:51):
And you name it? Well, at least when they get
to football, we can get to the refs because you
know they're in on it. They're all at the gym
pumping iron. Yeah, yeah, tonight he's gonna go down the
first quarter, they're gonna claim it's a neat and they're
pumping iron at the gym.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
I've always said, with these prop bets, how could these
not be staged? How easy could it be to fix
that problem?

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Well, yeah, I mean it's not. Well, it's easy to
fix a game. But okay, I'm a wide receiver. Hey Michael,
here's one hundred thousand dollars. Don't get one hundred and
ten yards. Okay, I'm at one hundred yards. I run
a fifteen and out. I'll drop that one. Yeah, there's
just no telling. But anyway, that that's one of our
big stories today. The FBI arrest more to come. It's

(12:38):
an ongoing investigation involving sports betting mafia backed poker schemes.
This should be about as shocking as the Sun's gonna
come up today. Trump's reaction to Canada. You know, I
got accused of being I really loved your show, and
then you suddenly got Listen, there's one thing you can work.
You never have to worry about with me. I'm never
gonna go left on you. Now, I can open up

(13:00):
the Bible on you. I can talk to you about
your eternal destiny. And have you what have you done
with Jesus? But you're never gonna hear me go left.
But you know this, so they.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Run the.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
I don't know how to what would be the comparison.
So it's the Ontario government, right, it's not even the
you know, the Canadian government. So the Ontarian government, if
it's not a context, you can split hairs on that.
But they take old sound from Ronald Reagan speaking against
tariffs and they make it into a sixty second commercial

(13:37):
and yes, of course I have it to play for you.
And then Trump's just like, that's it. Never mind. Remember
how we got along with that new prime ministry. Loved them.
It was a LoveFest. I felt like I was, you know,
watching Love Connection. I was waiting for Chuck Worlery to
say we'll be back into it too, And now all
was a sudden boom. That's it. You run that at
All of our trade talks are off, and us said

(14:00):
to be one bomber just to kind of circle off
the coast of Venezuela. That's to waive and send a message.
And key inflation report is coming out today, you know,
tariff's inflation the economy. These are probably the only things
that Donald Trump hasn't really completely mastered yet or fixed,

(14:20):
like the border. He's doing a lot of great things,
and nobody's bashing the president. But this is a big
inflation report today. Every time we turn around, there's some
new stories about tariff negotiations going bad. I have this.
I heard something on they give me one of the
stations in my year, and I think it was a
Fox report claiming I could have swore I heard her

(14:42):
say the one hundred and twenty third Fall Classic. Now
I believe this is the one hundred and twenty first
World Series. It's been going on for one hundred and
twenty three years, but two were canceled. We could make
that our talk back trivia question of the day. Why
would world series have been canceled? You don't know, either

(15:06):
of you? Do you strike no COVID?

Speaker 4 (15:10):
No?

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Remember we played for cardboard World War two? Yeah, there
you go to my count and I'm paranoid. I think
I'm right, but I don't know. The one hundred and
twenty first Fall Classic begins tonight in Toronto, and if
the Blue Jays win. That said, he's cutting off all
teriff negotiations that he already cut off over around bringing

(15:33):
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Speaker 4 (16:46):
Morning.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Michael Jeffrin read, Hey, I have a question. Who's going
to attempt to fill in for Jeffrey for a week?
Just kind of curious. Hey, Jeffrey, you have a safe,
productive vacation. Thanks Rod Glynn read you guys have a
safe and productive weekend.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
It's very nice. That's a lot of pressure to be
both safe and productive. Who is the guy in Sherman Oaks.
It's in Los Angeles. Adam. That's a premier head. Adam, right,
Adam Thompson. Yeah, yeah, because I always do the Adam
Adam and he goes yeah yeah, and I go where
are you? Which is a reference to an old seventies

(17:24):
Don Francisco Christians. I mean, that kid is so young,
he's not even gonna know what you're talking about. He's good.
So are you going to do something productive on your vacation?
I think the whole point of vacation is not to
be product telling you, I'm going to put my feet
in the sand and let God remind me of how
small I actually Am, that's what the whole week is
going to be about. That long as there's no sharks,
that is both safe and productive. Andrea is in the

(17:46):
lou Saint Louis.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
I'm Michael.

Speaker 6 (17:49):
One of my friends who as a school teacher says
that she's already had students talking class about sports betting
and gambling and stuff using those sports betting websites when
they've really only been legalized in Missouri this year.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
So yeah, I don't you know, it's in everybody's conversation.
I'll never forget. Right after we legalized sports gaming. Here,
just coming off the Front nine to refill my waters
and get a hot dog, and all of a sudden,

(18:29):
I noticed all these guys sitting at the bar. There
was never people at the bar, and they were all
drinking and watching sports and talking about their bets and
rooting on their bets. And I thought, it's already begun,
and there are some kids that won't know a life.
I guess the good news is if they start gambling

(18:50):
really young, well at least they won't lose that much.
They won't have much to lose yet. But my son
and my nephews were betting on these apps. And I
would ask them questions about their bets, and they didn't
know anything about the game or the prop bet that
they were doing. They just wanted to bet, but they
didn't watch the sport. Well that's what happened. That's the worst. Yeah,

(19:12):
and that's an action player. That's somebody. Look when I
used to struggle. I never struggled with casino gaming. My
struggle was sports betting. And I didn't lose a lot
of money because I didn't bet a lot of money,
but I lost a lot of time. And then one
day I really put my finger on it. I was

(19:33):
an athlete and this was my way of still playing,
if that makes sense. And once I realized I'm not
in the game, I don't need an interest in the game. Now,
what was the first thing I noticed? If I wasn't gambling,
I really didn't care, unless at that time it was
the Saints, you know, or somebody that was your favorite team.

(19:54):
I have a nephew that comes to visit and he's
betting cricket in India in the middle of the night.
Now I can't say he has a problem because kind
of like me, you know, And Michael's even worse than me.
I mean he BET's like two dollars. Oh, I mean
two dollars wouldn't even get my interest, you know, kind
of a thing. But it's the distraction and the time.

(20:16):
But for many, it's losing money till you don't have
any left, or it's losing money, and then even when
you don't have anything left, then you begin to rob
and steal in order to keep gambling. This all comes
with it, which is why we'll get reaction from Shaq
and Kenny Smith here in a second, Andrew, But this
is throughout culture and society, and I think you see

(20:37):
the Trump administration trying to you know, we've called it
a war on drugs before. This looks like a war
on drugs. I mean, we're shooting down the drug ships
as they're headed this way. We're flying over Venezuela saying
get a hold of your drug lords because they're not
going to be allowed to come here. And eventually we're
going to hold you accountable. And now with gaming, you're
seeing cash Patel and the crackdown, the first one involving

(21:00):
the mafia poker and well, something our members of Congress
do very well Insider Trader information. Shannon, I believe it's
in Ontario, Canada. She's behind the enemy lines this morning.
Dug Ford is the premier of this province. I heard
the clip. It's disgusting. The amount of liberal voters here

(21:22):
that voted for Kearney and this province is outrageous, and
they're all believing the lies. And I think that Trump
likes Kearney because he can maybe try to control them,
but we all hate him. We need him to go.
They're messing with this beautiful country. Please help us. We've
got to get the word out. Thanks. Well, oh, that's

(21:44):
kind of me. Well, you can't control The orchestra just
starts playing. Yeah, this is the ad that they ran
in Ontario that upset the president so much he's terminated
all trade talks.

Speaker 7 (22:01):
Listen, when someone says, let's impose tariffs on foreign imports,
it looks like they're doing the patriotic thing by protecting
American products and jobs. And sometimes for a short violid works,
but only for a short time. But over the long run,
such trade barriers hurt every American worker and consumer. High

(22:26):
tariffs inevitably lead to retaliation by foreign countries and the
triggering of fierce trade warnings. Then the worst tactics, market
shrink and collapse, businesses and industry shut down, and millions
of people lose their jobs.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Throughout the world.

Speaker 7 (22:43):
There's a growing realization that the weight of prosperity for
foreign nations is rejecting protectionist legislation and promoting fair and
free competition.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
America's jobs and growth are at stake. That was one
of Reagan's famous radio addresses. Those were I'm surprised Trump
hasn't really mastered those the way of course he does
the rally. He masters the rally. Do they still do those? Well?
Obama did? Did he? Yeah? He's yeah. I think it

(23:16):
kind of became obsolete compared to tweeting lot moment. But
radio addresses, I mean, it was a different time and
it made sense then. It may not make sense now,
but no one did it better than I mean, Reagan
was the first to do the sound bite, right. He
knew that the news was going to pick a four
second clip, and so he'd feed him four or five.

(23:38):
And that's when we called him the sound bite President.
He knew how to master communication and small sound bites.
But the rags they would do different topics, you know,
the closest thing to like the Ronald Reagan radio address
was it's kind of like David Bonson's dividend cat. It's

(23:59):
very much like that, and that, you know, pick a top.
Reagan was so good at teaching, not bully teaching or
as fire addresses. He does Friday's with forty seven right
here every week. I mean, that's some that we have
shamelessly thank you, so you're not on vacation, welcome, Thank

(24:20):
you very much. Took your feet out of the sand
for a second. Yes, Friday with forty seven today, there's
a lot to discuss at the construction going on at
the White House. We have the tensions rising that we're
going to cover it all. Friday with forty seven coming
up in the third hour. So anyway, these are just
brilliant radio addresses that Reagan used to do. This one

(24:42):
the accused of taking some of it out of content
and moving it around. Bottom line is the government of
Ontario decides to run this ad and our president responds
by saying I'm terminating all trade talks. Not everything in
there is completely out of context, and it is the
argument for free trade obviously, but it is also there's

(25:03):
a point at the end of Reagan's discussing fairness, and
I think that's what Donald Trump is trying to do.
Not all countries are cooperating, and as they don't cooperate,
go ahead.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
I hate to remind Canada though they've been tariffing us forever.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Well, the goose and the gander never see eyed eye.
You know that. And then it's onto the sports gambling.
You know there is, and I am I'm burdened by
it before I even speak. There's nothing about this even
if these two are guilty, and everyone's innocent until proven guilty,
and these two particular cases, even if they trying to

(25:42):
be guilty, that's a tip of the iceberg. You don't
have sports gaming, and then acts shocked you have any
of this. I would have been genuinely shocked if we didn't.
You build a casino in a city and a time,
and I'll be shocked. If you don't have higher divorce rates,

(26:04):
I'll be shocked. If you don't have bankruptcy. I'll be shocked.
If you don't have increase in armed robbery, burglary, car theft.
It just comes with it. That's why you have to
have your eyes open when you choose to do it. Now,
this was a huge story. Chauncey Billips is a huge name.

(26:25):
The player not so much. Of course, You're going to
watch the NBA on ESPN and they're going to react.
And first up with Shaq Shack was probably the roughest
of the two on the story. You know what I'm
gonna do it we have time. I want you to

(26:46):
hear the beginning because Shaq talks about now he's not perfect,
but this is nothing that's ever been a problem for him.
Then he gets into the the chastising listen.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
The letter of the law when it comes to gambling
in sports gambling, And I don't want to sit up
here like I'm some perfect guy like I every now
and then when I go to Vegas, I play some
craps and you know, I play some roulette, but never
gamble at anybody's house. Don't know anything about pokers. I
don't know but what they're talking about when it comes
to the to the Chauncy thing. But I know, uh, Chauncey,

(27:19):
I know Damon very well. Play with Damon's I don't
want to sit up here, but I'm ashamed that that
those guys will put their families and their careers in
Jeopardy like that. There's old saying in the hood. All
money ain't good money. So if you're making nine million
dollars and you're dealing with certain things like how much
how much more do you need? Especially especially if you

(27:40):
know you get caught, you can do jail time, lose
your career. You know, put put you know, put put
a bad image on yourself or your family or on
the NBA. I agree with you, Truck. They they dropped
the ball. You know, you know they had dropped the ball.
Like you never you never want to have your name
involved in that when you know the level of And

(28:01):
again I know for a fact every year they they.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
I love that line, all money and good money. I
may use that one. Kenny Smith, of course remembers you're
innocent to a proven guilty, but he too had these comments.

Speaker 8 (28:15):
People that are involved, you know, we are surprised because
when you have access and you at the top of
your game, so to speak, as a coaching, professional player
or whatever, you at the top of the game, you
have access to millions and millions of dollars in this league.
So it was surprising that they would be put themselves
in that position. Possibly it is and then it's into
a proven guilty. I think the other part is we

(28:36):
have to realize that gambling is an addiction. So the
addiction of it is what makes you make illogical decisions.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
I'm so glad you're pat your chest. Why. It's just
funny because I hear Chuck going into his wind up.
He gets really upset with Kenny in the next clip,
and it's hilarious. Well, okay, but you see, I'm on kennyside. Look,
I understand exactly what Jack's saying. And in a sensible world,

(29:07):
of course, bad money ain't the same as good money.
Of course you wouldn't jeopardize your standing, your salary. Gambling
is an addiction, and once it's an addiction, you don't
do anything that makes sense. That's what I appreciated that
Kenny brought up. Oh don't worry, we're going to get
to Charles.

Speaker 8 (29:27):
So not because you make nine million dollars. There are
people who are making as FBI director says, there's a
man who lost one point eight million dollars. That means
he has a lot of money, so he has an
addiction to that. Those fish that they talk about that
they were bringing in, So gambling is an addiction which

(29:47):
can make you make illogical decisions regardless of your ethnic background,
regardless of your physical background, and regardless of your financial status.
So let's understand that. And I I disagree in terms
of the NBA dropping the ball. This is an ongoing investigation.
There's no way that any FBI or police even would

(30:08):
come to anyone and.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Say, hey, this is what we're doing.

Speaker 8 (30:12):
This is the surprise element always makes it happen, so
they cannot overextend the information that they're receiving. And this
is about individuals. And last, and I let you talk, Chuck,
I will wish you would. We're making me mad right here.
I can make you mad and you can make me mad.

(30:33):
I just have my opinion. You're gonna have yours. But
I also think that because there are people who get
speeding tickets doesn't mean everyone in the league speeds. And
so don't look at this group all right.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Before you get in. And you enjoyed the Chuck part.
So yeah, dude, I find Kenny so sensible like you.
You have guys that are worth a hundred million dollars
sitting at tables doing a million dollars a hand. They
it's not like they're risking how hard they worked and
all that they're addicted. So that's a good point. And
then you know, just because you catch one or fifty

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it doesn't mean all. But here comes.

Speaker 8 (31:10):
Starting to get investigated the entire.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Listen indictment of the league.

Speaker 8 (31:14):
Clear something up for me, Chuck, I'm won't clear it
up quickly, No, but.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
I really just want this.

Speaker 9 (31:20):
You say the league dropped the ball on the Rosier
part of it, Yes, because they had already looked at
it and said we didn't have enough, But not on
the Chauncey. They didn't drop the ball on different things, Yeah,
exact different things.

Speaker 8 (31:30):
Yeah, Chauncey out the equation.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Chauncey had nothing to do with basketball.

Speaker 8 (31:36):
And the reason I'm mad at Kenny is man, this
ain't got nothing to do with damn gambling addiction. This
ain't got none to do it addiction. These dudes are stupid.
Why are they stupid? You under no circumstances? Can you
fix basketball games? Under no circumstances? I love to gamble
The notion like Rosia makes twenty six.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Million dollars.

Speaker 8 (32:00):
Him been giving people information or or taking him.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Stelf out of games?

Speaker 8 (32:06):
How much is he gonna benefit taking himself out the
game to get unders like he's making twenty six million dollars,
the notion he gained how much of these guys he
gave a head up, he took himself out of games
on prop bits. How much money is he gonna make? Well,
if he did that, you're proving my point. What do
you mean that means that alical process? If you're making

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twenty six million dollars to try to win fifty thousand, like,
that's illogical, So that you're proving my point.

Speaker 9 (32:38):
That's not an addition.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
That's the same reason.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
What I loved the most about Kenny Smith is when
we think about gambling or sports gambling, we think of
the athletes as not being a part of it. Like
I am thoroughly convinced Pete Rose was addicted to gambling.
He could not stop. It wasn't a problem gambler. He
was a pathological gambler. Mythological gambler normally is defined is

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I've already run out of my money. Now I'm stealing
from mom and dad. Now I'm stealing from work. That's
not enough. Now I'm robin convenience stores. Now I'm breaking
into your house in the middle of the night. Now
I'm mugging you on the street. But it can also
mean now I'm going to do the unthinkable. I'm going
to risk everything I've achieved in life as an icon

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in a game to keep betting and get closer and
closer to betting games that I'm involved with. That's what
Pete Rose did. Now he claims he never would kill
Pete Roses. He should have come clean from the beginning.
He didn't me lied, but he started betting. You know,
the whole argument became, well, I never bet against the Reds.
I always bet on the Reds. Well, that doesn't cut it.

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But I like what Kenny introduces, and a lot of
people forget sometimes these great athletes who are making millions
can also get sucked in, or they can get big
fat stacks of cash tax free from somebody. And now
you just don't in the door of the Maffie and
everything else that's been revealed, I thought there were some
interesting thoughts. I mean, look, I can tell you that
exchange is better than probably anything you're gonna hear on

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sports talk radio today. It was pretty compelling.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
For one, sports talk radio is talking about the NBA.
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