November 5, 2024 • 33 mins
The path for Trump and the path for Kamala
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:15):
Three, starting your morning off right.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
A new way of talk, a new way of understanding
because we're in this together. This is your morning show
with Michael Gill Jordan. I'll give you one I didn't
see coming.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Kamala Harris stealing that line and using it over and
over again. I may have to change it. She's been
pushing that we're all in this together. Our question of
the day is, it's been a crazy election year. What
did you see coming that happened? What did you never
see coming that happened? To Nashville we Go?
Speaker 6 (00:51):
I didn't see Kamala Harris being the one running for president.
I believe that the election results will go in Donald
Trump's favor, But the real winners of tonight's election is
going to be the American people. Trump's going to change
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things for the better.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Well, that all depends on who gets control of the
House quite frankly, I think, look, things look very good
for Donald Trump, very good for the Republicans in the
United States Senate, but I can't put my finger on
the House. There are some who believe that if Donald
Trump pushes turnout the way he does, the House would
follow with him.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
But it's going to be a very close call, and.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
You can't get closer than Dixonville Notch, New Hampshire. Although
I think it was Rick that emailed earlier and said, well,
keep in mind, Joe Biden took five of those votes
in twenty twenty. This time it's split three to three.
Even that may be a sign. And podcaster Joe Rogan
has endorsed Donald Trump. Who knows if he's the one
that literally pushed Donald Trump over the finish line. I'm
trying to think, Gred, you sent me the latest. The
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Joe Rogan podcast increased another seven hundred thousand. I think
it was so Trump On Rogan reached forty five million people.
Jd Vance on Joe Rogan reached another fourteen and a
half million. Kamala Harrison no show. And that's not even
adding the million from Elon Musk, which was along with
his endorsement, the big happening last night on the final
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night of campaigning, and abortion on the ballot in ten states,
marijuana on the ballot and four other states on this
election day, and the Boeing strike is over. David Snati,
the CEO of American Policy Roundtable, most of the public square,
and our senior contributor is joining us throughout most of
this election day coverage. The reason I end up at
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three hundred and six or three hundred and twelve with
Nevada is the way the Republicans negated the registration advantage
for the Democrats engaged in mail in voting and early
voting and negated that advantage. Usually Republicans are way behind
at this time when the polls open. Not the case
this time around. Although we don't know what's coming on
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election Day, I think Donald Trump has been the better candidate.
They seized the moments the best. Even though he had
a disastrous I mean it was a disaster of a debate,
he managed to overcome that in the end. He closed
strong with the mistakes that they made. And I think
the kind of like the trifecta. When first he did
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the rally in Madison Square Garden then they hand them
the deplorable two point zero and then of course the
garbage truck. At the end, I think he was clearly
the better candidate, and all she managed to do really
was proved she wasn't Donald Trump. So in the end
they end up with abortion, which, by the way, they
kind of negated themselves because the way these abortion votes
have been going, it wasn't nearly the scare tactic that
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they needed it to be for this general election. But
they basically have abortion versus the boogeyman, and the boogeyman
didn't sell. And I think in the end, the thing
I didn't see where the alliance is. I thought RFK
Junior would be a key factor in the third party
of a race, and it didn't. He ended up out
of the race and a line himself with Donald Trump.
So yeah, the Telsea Gabberd Democrat presidential candidate, RFK Democrat
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turned independent presidential candidate aligning with Trump, then the Elon Musk,
then the Megan Kelly, and then the Joe Rogan and
you know throughout Tucker Carlson alliance. I think that's all
too much, And because I believe that as Pennsylvania goes
so Michigan Wisconsin will go.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I'm going to give him the sweep.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
I think it's going to be a very close race,
but in the end and not a close result at all.
And I have Donald Trump with three hundred and six
or three hundred and twelve. That's my pathway for him.
And why anything you want to add to that? Because
I gave you the task of kamalom primarily.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
Well, I know, I appreciate that, and I appreciate your
consistency throughout. I think then when we look back at
this election is going to be a question of who
the most significant influencers were. And that's that's a word
that is used and is usually thought about new media
or online or digital media. But the fact is is
that the intellectual mainstream of the left, out of the
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Atlantic and now out of the Associated Press, controlled by
foundations and others, and other of their publications that then
work their way through the New York Times and the
Washington Post, etc. They clearly have been a campaign mechanism
for the entire Democrat left. They have left all forms
of objectivity.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
They're gone. But they could never make talk radio work.
What if they can't make social media and podcasting work,
they're in real trouble.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
Those are the kinds of questions that will have long
term impacts here looking back, because as hard as it
is to believe, as grateful as America is that we
finally got to this day, we can get all with
our lives in about twenty four more hours in the
suspended animation, there is going to be another election, and
it starts tomorrow. It will culminate in two years, and
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then there'll be another one, and so we'll be at
this for a while. So the institutional changes on how
we get our information and how we make our decisions
are significant. And this is the year you've talked about
the death of journalism. Well, journalism has come back. It's
just not called journalism anymore. It's called campaign advocacy. Now,
maybe the undertone in this will come down if the
margins are as tight as we think they're going to
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be in regards to actual vote councilor you're looking at
electoral college, let's look underneath as to what the numbers
will be.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
That will turn those electoral college numbers. Oh, they're not
going to be effact.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
They're going to be close maybe a thousand votes in
a state or three thousand votes in a state.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
So it's that close.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Oh, America is very divided, and America will be divided
tomorrow no matter what the result is, and almost equally.
But in the end, if we're doing post mortem, the
choice to get rid of Joe Biden and replaced with
Kamala Harris. I did that stat right before the debate.
She is basically by numbers, and they could be underpolled
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in her favor and oversampled in her favor. But if
the polling is even accurate, they're no better off for
having replaced Joe Biden.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
Well, but and that's fair, then that's accurate. But if
Biden was in this race this we wouldn't even be
having a conversation.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, I would have, personally, I am.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
I am convinced that suddenly John Podesta and Democrats strategist
to aren idiots. If they wanted to win the preregistration game,
they would have won it. If they wanted to win
the early vote and mail in vote game, they would
have won it decidedly. I don't think they want the presidency.
I think they want common to lose and be rid
of her and not have to deal with her for
forty eight years and come back with Wes Moore or Shapiro.
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They want control of the House, and that is the
big question mark for me. I think America is going
to be everything's going to be great now Donald Trump won,
but if the Democrats control the House, you are grossly mistaken.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
Once again, being way ahead of all the rest. I
haven't heard that theory projected anywhere. And the fact that
that that that's really where they.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Want to go with this, I don't buy. That's stupid.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
If they really wanted to win, they'd have gone Shapiro
or Awsom, and they certain would have done knucklehead, and
they certainly would have gone this woke and over the line.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
Not at a time she shows that they still don't
have absolute complete control over all of the divisions of
the Democrat Party because you got to remember Joe Biden
was the nominee because of the Black Caucus and because
of South Carolina in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Let me do that was the deal that had to
be cut.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Assuming we wake up tomorrow morning and boy do I
have egg all over my face, and Kamala Harris is won,
and we'll know early if she wins North Carolina or
Georgia early.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
It's over. You'll be having an omelet by midnight.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
If she wins Wisconsin and Michigan and we're waiting on Pennsylvania,
I got news for you.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
It's over. I don't.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
I mean, it's a close race, but it's not going
to be a close result, and I don't think we're
going to be.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Waiting for days. This is your morning show with Michael
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You, but better late than ever. We're grateful you're here now.
Enjoy the podcast.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
I laid out the case of voter enthusiasm, engaging and registration,
engaging in mail in voting, engaging and early voting.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I made the case of.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Capitalizing on viral moments, the better candidacy, the trying to
hide kamala and plain sight that failed, and then the
embracing of where people really are now and that would
be what Rogan's Trump interview is at forty five million.
JD Vansis is at seven. You want to know something
outstand astounding, The Elon Musk Joe Rogan interview from last
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night is already at six and a half million. This
alliance with RFK, Tulsey Gabbard, Joe Rogan, Elon Musk, you know,
it just it seemingly is just too much. And in
the end, the bait and switch that betrayed their own voters,
Kamala not being really much better than Joe Biden and
really only to have nothing but abortion and Trump the boogeyman.
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I don't think it's enough. I got Trump winning three
hundred and six or three hundred and twelve on the
electoral map. It'll be close getting there, but the result
won't be close. The House, I'm a little more concerned about.
And the Senate. You know, I'm really astounded at this
race in Ohio. If that hangs and Brown loses, I
think it could be I said plus three all along,
and I think that's what it'll be, and then it'll
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have the tiebreaker. But again, if it's not sixty, it's
really not of that much significance. The control of the
House will be very, very key for change, although Elon
Musk made it very clear the future of x and
the future of free speech is certainly on the line
in this election. All Right, if we wake up tomorrow
morning and I have egg all over my face and
Kamala Harris is the president elect, how did she get there?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
That's my question. Yeah, there's nobody else here, David san
NAUGHTI is here, so I get to answer that question.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
Well, she got there by winning Georgia, which means that
in spite of all of the regrets that were expressed
by so many people in Georgia about what happened in
twenty twenty and how it really was Zuckerbucks and all
that sort of stuff, and the whole Stacey Abrams saying
that somehow that whole move back toward a center in
Georgia fell apart.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
That's that's critical.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
And then the other thing is the fact that everybody
got faked out by Pennsylvania, because Pennsylvania is not anything
other than a deep blue state and you're not going
to change it no matter how many rallies you hold
in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
That would, in essence be how she did it.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
If that's what and then surprisingly she's going to win
Wisconsin or miss if she loses Michigan.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
To pulls it off in Wisconsin. That's how she did it, right.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
So you've got basically the wishful thinking that the leftist
trend in those three states has somehow been abated, and
it has.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
That's not good news for the future of America. By
the way.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
Now, on the other hand, I will say one other thing, Michael,
there is some good news. You notice that these are
middle aged adults now younger to middle aged adults, people
like Megan Kelly, like Joe Rogan, like Elon Musk. These
are people who are grown ups who are saying politics
is too dangerous to keep playing this like it's a
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student council race. Yeah, right, And that maturity bodes well
for the future if those people can stay and pay attention.
I don't think Donaldchoyce Trump would be their absolute first
choice for a president of the United States if we
could start over again.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
But the maturity of their position in saying we have.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
To do its best, that's that's a grown up approach,
and that's that goes well for the future.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
David hosts the Public Square heard on two hundred stations,
the CEO of American Policy Roundtable, and also presides over
I Voters and as a senior contributor to your morning show.
He's been with us throughout the selection day coverage. We
started with the question what are the things in this
crazy year we saw coming? What are the things that
we didn't see coming? You know, when the year started,
I talked about, you know, when it comes time, if
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Donald Trump gets a nomination and it's not time, was
trump Ism best being passed on either to DeSantis or
to Probably at that point, we wouldn't have said JD.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Vans.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
We would have clearly said Marco Rubio or would it
be best carried on with Donald Trump? Well, it ended
up being Donald Trump. And then we started saying, well, then,
what's the future of trump Ism after Donald Trump? That
picture is completely different now because the future of trump
Ism isn't limited to Republicans. Figuring this out now with
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Elon Musk, now with our FK Junior, now with Telsey Gabbert,
it's becoming a whole day different thing. It may be
the most hopeful significant thing. You just said it. I
just said it in different words, But I think we're
in complete agreement, and we should add that to our
list because that's huge.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I did not see that.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
I thought, well, the Republicans made a big mistake absorbing
and neutering the Tea party movement. Would they do the
same with trump Ism and then move back towards establishment Republicanism.
I don't think that's the case. In fact, I think
they become the new People's Party. The question becomes what
does a Democrat party become, especially with a loss here,
I think they get more woke, more militant, more left.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
I'm going to add one more thing, and you're not
going to like it, so we might have an argument
later today.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute. Just
in case we haven't had to do.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
This yet, let's get it on little bit on me.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
I would add the growth of your radio program over
the last year into that mix of ascending things people
did not see coming. Just listen to the talkbacks across
the country. These people have been listening to you for
a year. As the stations continue to expand and continue
to grow, and you made the talk about talk radio
not being there, hold on, hold on their partner, AM
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radios are going to stick around. Because of things like
North Carolina, because we need to be able to go
somewhere where we can turn on a radio with batteries
and it's still free when we need it. And that
means talk radio is going to be around because people
are listening and they care. So it's this country is
very very closely divided, and media plays a big role
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in it. And so what we've seen with Megan Kelly
and Joe Rogan and RFK and even jeff Bezos pulling
out from the endorsement arena bodes hopeful.
Speaker 8 (15:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Yeah, No, I would not add myself to that list.
I would say this backfires.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
You're that Jeffrey wouldn't ad himself was That's okay, That's
why I did it.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
No, I wouldn't. I absolutely do not.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
I absolutely disagree, and I don't think I've had any
influence whatsoever, But I would say this, All their plants
have backfired. Law fair backfired. That's huge, that's result defining
the assassination attempts backfired.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
That was huge.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
They actually played the deplorable two point zero card from
Biden slapping us and that you know what to what
was this last one? I'm buying my blank on it.
Come on, it's garbage. Yeah, you called this all garbage.
Donald Trump, you know, showed up with the garbage truck.
I mean, but the way they've embraced rather than gripe about,
embraced registration, embraced get out to vote, embraced mail and vote,
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embraced early voting. The fact that they're starting today not
behind playing ketchup. I think that's defining. And just as
the Liberals didn't see talk radio then couldn't compete in
talk radio, they didn't see the shift away from mainstream media.
Nobody gives a you know what about debates and ABC
or CNN or MSNBC or even Fox for that matter.
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In fact, the two biggest Fox o's are now independent
and changing the world with influence in podcasting. That's the
stuff they didn't see coming.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Hey, this is top cop Kathy Hinters in My Morning
show is your Morning Show with Mike Joornou.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Trust me, I never underestimate the Democrats, And I don't
buy they were this dumb this time around, from podcasting
to early registration to early voting to mail in voting,
I just don't buy it, to not going on Brogan
and other things that they did I don't buy that
this dumb. Maybe they are, but I don't buy it,
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and I think they've got a bigger play in hand.
But first things first, I do have Donald Trump winning
either three oh six or three twelve, so very close race,
not a very close result. And by the way, I
disagree with most people. I think we're going to know
early because either way, if North Carolina or Georgia falls
early to Kamala Harris, she's the next president. If Michigan
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or Wisconsin, If North Carolina and Georgia hold for Trump,
and I believe they will, and he takes Michigan or Wisconsin,
it's over early.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
That's just me. But it is election day and White.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
House correspondent John Decker will be following whoever wins. It
has been a crazy year, John Decker, how do we
get here? And what's good morning?
Speaker 9 (18:01):
Yeah, it's a crazy election, that's for sure. You know,
one of those elections where we talk about these seven
swing states that will decide who our next president is.
Nothing's changed, nothing's really changed in the polling over the
course of the.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Past month or so.
Speaker 9 (18:17):
We don't know if the polls are accurate. So I
think that's the reason why you just have to be patient, patient,
not only for tonight, but maybe patient for the next
two days beyond that as all the votes are counted.
Speaker 8 (18:31):
I agree with what you said.
Speaker 9 (18:32):
You know, I think that in North Carolina, that's the
state that I'll follow very closely tonight. It's really interesting
to me that Donald Trump visited North Carolina Saturday, Sunday,
he visited Monday. Is this eighty one in twenty sixteen,
He won it in twenty twenty, and yet he felt
the necessity to travel to that state three days in
a row, which means perhaps it's a little too close
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for comfort for Donald Trump in that state. And if
Kamala Harris wins North Carolina, that could be all whether
for her. If Donald Trump secures North Carolina, which I
expect he will do, then we'll have to be patient
to see what happens in.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
Some of these other swing states.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Pennsylvania.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Pennsylvania is relevant because I think if Pennsylvania goes, Kamala Harris,
Michigan to go along Kamala Harris as well. They tend
to go together. But I don't think we're going to
be waiting on that. I think he's got Arizona, whether
he gets Nevada or not as what we call land.
Speaker 9 (19:24):
Yeah, just because Arizona's on the west coast. So that's
the reason why wait for that?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, you're wait for that. But but you are so
you were so right.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
She was all in on North Carolina and he went
all in in the end in Michigan.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
That was the place.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
No, No, you didn't hear what I said.
Speaker 9 (19:38):
I said that Donald Trump visited North Carolina three days
in a row, Saturday, Sunday, at Monday. Yeah, because Kamala
Harris state that he should have it firmly.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
In his column, you know, having won it in about twenty.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Sixteen in the twenty twenty No, I agree, but you
have to admit that's where she really If I had
to look at her campaign schedule, I would say she
prioritized trying to knock him out by winning North Carolina,
and that's why he engaged there as well, and that's
why she closed the gap there. So I think she is.
She made a play for North Carolina. He's made a
play for Michigan.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
And we'll see who effectively knows in Michigan.
Speaker 9 (20:11):
You know, Michigan is a state he lost by one
hundred and fifty four thousand votes four years ago.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
Can he flip them?
Speaker 9 (20:16):
Can he flip all those votes, you know, get the
new voters in. That's a big unknown. We'll have to
wait and see what the results are in Michigan. But
you know, Michigan, in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, they make up the
Blue Wall. And I think you're right. You know, if
Harris loses one of those blue Wall states over, Donald
Trump will be the next president of the United States.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
John Decker is our White House correspondent. All right, So,
I think you bring up a good point. In the unknown,
we don't know, We don't know if these polls are accurate.
If they are, it's very troublesome for Kamala Harris because
he's right there and there might still be some underpolling
in there. So if they're this close and Trump is
underpolling as always and they haven't solved how to get
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that number, it looks very favorable for Trump. Two big
unknowns election day turnout and the abortion question on ballots.
Speaker 9 (21:06):
You agree, and and well, and I'd added three one more,
one more, And that's the gender gap. You know, the
gender gap. You know, it's either going to be the
story of the twenty twenty four campaign or the oversold
story of the twenty twenty four campaign. But to me,
that is one of those things that I'll be paying
a lot of attention to as it relates to exit
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polling and how voters that, for instance, voted for Nicki
Haley and the Republican primaries, what they decided to do?
You know, how did they vote? You know, because we're
talking about a significant percentage of the Republican vote from
the spring, and what.
Speaker 8 (21:42):
Did those voters ultimately decide to do?
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Final question? We tend to in America obsess on the presidency.
I don't think that was our intent. I don't think
that was our founding father's focus. But we do obsess
on the presidency. Not a lot of talk about it,
but the House, far more of it and far too
close to call. Senate looks favorable for the Republicans, but
it better be a plus three or larger. And by
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the way, I don't know about Casey necessarily, but the
fact that Brown looks like he could lose in Ohio
would be the shock of all shocks for me compared
to where.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I was a year ago. House and Senate.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Why aren't we talking as much about that, and do
you have any gut feelings.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
There, Yeah, I do.
Speaker 9 (22:23):
You know, I think that Democrats are playing defense in
the Senate, and the reason being is because they have
more seats to defend this election cycle than they had
to defend in the twenty twenty two mitterm election cycle.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
You know, we know they're already.
Speaker 9 (22:38):
Going to pick up one seat in West Virginia Joe
Manchins retiring. It's going to be built by the Republican
governor of that state is running for that seat. So
then you're at fifty to fifty, which means Republicans only
need to pick up one more seat, and Democrats have
very few seats that they can flip. You know that
they're looking at Texas. I think that's a long shot
in terms of knocking off Ted Cruz. You're a you're
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looking at Ohio if you're a Republican, you're looking at
Montana as one of the two seats that they could
pick up. And you know, for Republicans, they really, as
you point out me, to have a larger margin than
fifty one forty nine. Why because of Susan Collins and
because of Lisa Murkowski. You know, they are not you
know going to always go along with the rest of
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the Republican Party as it relates to what the Republican
Party wants.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
To do in terms of if it's a Kamala Harris.
Speaker 9 (23:29):
Presidency blocking nominees, or in terms of a Donald Trump
presidency going along with some of the names that he
may be considering for cabinet positions.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Forty love caution, forty love caution.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
I said this off the air, I'm grateful for this show,
especially forgetting to have you be a part of it.
And what I said off the air stands. I'm grateful
to this election. It's got us texting and I treasure that.
John Decker, there you go. We'll talk again tomorrow. Well
tomorrow we should have results, should have results.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Appreciate We'll see.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
We don't know.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
Thankfully, you got a White House correspondent, John Decker, Well, David,
he gets the Senate.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
The House, uh, the you know on the Senate side.
We'll post more than that.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
With in some of these key races, distancing themselves from
Biden and Harris. And if that worked. He missed West Virginia.
I think West Virginia Montana in the bag for the Republicans.
And if you get the White House, then you've got control.
But we turned to Pennsylvania and Casey and Ohio and
Brown and in Ohio in particular, they're looking really in trouble. Arizona.
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I think they're fine. Yeah, that's a surprise, there's no doubt.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
He did talk about mansion leaving though, and the Republicans
being projected to win that, and they have been from
the beginning.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
So no, I think that's one of the great political
characters of our time.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
By the way, we'll be taking that send seat with
his dog. Yeah, So it's going to be some very
interesting changes.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
Michael, I think the important thing for me is that
the sun's coming up tomorrow morning either way, and the
construct of America does not change based upon a presidential election.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
It feels like it changes, but it doesn't.
Speaker 8 (25:09):
Right.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
It's like the presidency's the giant aneurism that every four
years threatens to pop and blow up everybody's understanding of America.
But it doesn't because there is a House, there is
a Senate, there are state legislatures, and there are governors
underneath it. So the sun will come up tomorrow and
our responsibilities will be the same, and it will be
twice as interesting as it is right now. And I'm
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not saying that because I get paid to be on
this show or because I get paid to be in politics.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
It's because this is how America works. Quite frankly, I've
known you for a long time. You don't get paid
for either.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
I'm from Phoenix to Tampa with Nashville Akron and you
in between. It's your morning show with Michael del Chuano.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
On this election day, it's your morning show, So your
voice matters most what But Amy, I have no idea where.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
It's coming from.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
So doring your show, Michael, Pennsylvania that you've been talking
a lot about went from minus one to eighteen for
Trump to minus one point thirty one during your show.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Is that good?
Speaker 8 (26:11):
That?
Speaker 5 (26:11):
That is a shocking number shift though, I mean, I
don't think I was any to do with my show,
but in the timeframe of election day and Paul's opening,
that's a huge shift going towards Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
What was the other one?
Speaker 9 (26:22):
I was trying to figure out who to vote on
the school boards, so I did a little research and
I found something almost as good as the goal of
a ticket.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
It was blue vote.
Speaker 9 (26:33):
They have it for each district and basically it's Democrats
telling you who to vote for, then you.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Do the opposite. I guess, uh, thanks for your talking
Mark move.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Yeah, David, you you've met you know I voters dot Com.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
And eye voters dot com.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
Yeah, we do the same thing on eye voters dot
Com have been since for al since nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
We put up ranking endorsements left and right, and a
lot of people just go there and say, Okay, if
I'm I want to know what the right's doing, and
it's vice versus referencing, it's invaluable.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Fastest way to know is check the endorsing organizations.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Yep, this is going to be an interesting This is
gonna be an interesting conversation because I do think it's.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Going to be a very very close race.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Who knows, maybe even one thousand, ten thousand decide votes
that swing entire states. So close race but not a
close electoral college result is what I'm anticipating. And because
if she takes North Carolina early, I know it's over.
Or if Donald Trump holds in Georgia and North Carolina
and takes either Michigan or Wisconsin, I believe it's over.
So I actually don't think it's gonna be one of these,
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but I could be wrong. And you know, the pollsters
are saying the election is too close to call. We're
even tight in Dixville Notch, New Hampshire three to three Rory.
What do we anticipate in terms of results and when
we'll know it?
Speaker 10 (27:47):
Yeah, you know, North Carolina and Georgia should come in
relatively early. We heard though from Maricopa County, we're home
of Phoenix, Arizona, that they could take ten to thirteen
days before they hit the final is there.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
It's a two page ballot.
Speaker 10 (28:02):
There are new rules about how you can correct your
ballot if you mailed it in, and that sort of
thing that.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Drag out the process.
Speaker 10 (28:09):
But of course, as you've said, Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, they
have started the process of at least opening the envelopes
now to begin to count all the mail in ballots.
But that's a lot of work to do, and when
the state is as close as it is, we need
that absentide ballot count in order to name a winner.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
You know, Red brought up something earlier off the air
that I thought was really important. The reluctance of these
networks to make these calls too, and the role that
will play. They'll be very hesitant to make early calls, right,
I mean, well, they've got burned in Florida.
Speaker 10 (28:42):
Look at all the trouble Fox got in for rightly
calling Arizona for Joe Biden early, right, and.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
That guy lost his job.
Speaker 10 (28:49):
So yeah, no one wants to get these calls wrong.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Because what I'm looking.
Speaker 10 (28:55):
For too is to see if a candidate Trump ra
Harris comes out early to declare victory when maybe the
numbers aren't all there yet. But now you've got to
try to claw back that victory from them, and you
know you've already swayed popular opinion.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Remember twenty sixteen. But Esta comes out on the lawn
and says, we're not willing to concede. Then a few
hours later, two in the morning, Hillary finally did. But
we'll see, all right, Roy, great reporting tomorrow. We may
or may not know, but we'll talk then. Thanks Michael,
you got it all right. Final say time for me.
I've kind of laid out the case. I think there
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are three big hurdles for those of you like watching
tips tonight, your first eyes when the polls close on
the East Coast have them laser focused. I believe on
North Carolina more than Georgia. But Georgia and North Carolina,
Donald Trump has to win both. If Kamala Harris looks
laser close in one and it's going to drag out
(29:50):
for a long time, or she wins North Carolina Georgia,
it's over. Kamala is the next president. But if Donald
Trump can hold North Carolina and Georgia, then your eyes
go next next to the Midwest. Pennsylvania. I think that's
been oversold. They improved a lot of things in twenty
twenty two over twenty twenty. You may not wait days
for Pennsylvania. Then again you might. I think it's going
(30:12):
to be irrelevant if Donald Trump can win Wisconsin or Michigan.
I actually this is a fun one. I actually think
it's going to be Wisconsin. David thinks it's going to
be Michigan. I actually have it on my map as both.
But I actually think Wisconsin looks better for Trump than Michigan.
And I think it's possible she could take Pennsylvania and
Michigan together. Even though I have my map, He's gonna
(30:35):
take Pennsylvania and Michigan in Wisconsin, but keep your eyes
laser focused after North Carolina and Georgia on Michigan or Wisconsin.
Trump has to win one of those two where it
does come down to Pennsylvania and out west. I think
Arizona looks very secure for Donald Trump. I don't care
how long it takes to count. I think he's gonna
get Nevada too, but he only needs one of the two. David,
if am I missing anything in terms of windows or
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time zone, I.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Think you're right about Wisconsin.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
The only reason I've changed from Wisconsin and Michigan is
is because of the time that Trump seemed to spend.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
So he either feels that.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
He's got it and he's now going for Michigan as well,
or he doesn't. But Decker brings up a good point,
John Decker, because Wisconsin, the actual margin of victory for
Biden was only ten three hundred and forty two votes
in twenty twenty, so Trump goes in needing to change
that number, where he's got to change a lot bigger
number in the ninety thousand range in Michigan, so it
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would be an easier state for him. And it's about
to say it's not the same in electoral votes, but.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
It's pretty close. Yeah, so he only needs one or
the other. Tech technology has impacted certainly. Our mailboxes are
for junk mail. We have no home phones, we have
mobile phones and we don't answer them. We're a divided
state and a social dilemma. So and we have a
great deal of mistrust. Rightly so for media and universities,
these things have all affected polling. The other big issue
(31:52):
is how Donald Trump underpolls because his people in particular,
who are told their garbage and deplorable don't like to answer.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Don't think they've solved that.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
So if we go through all the swing states and
Harris is only up by a half a point when
Biden was up by seven at this point, I think
Wisconsin's in trouble for her. Pennsylvania Trump's up four. Hillary
was up two point one in twenty sixteen. I think
Pennsylvania is a problem for them. Michigan, Harris is only
up a half a point. Hillary was up three and
(32:21):
a half and Donald Trump took Michigan. Arizona. Trump is
actually up three and in Arizona Trump's up a half.
I think he sweeps them all. I have him at
three twelve that's my final say. They embraced podcasting in
the future and where people really are. They embraced early voting,
mail in voting, and early registration. They've done everything right
and they've earned it. I don't have them necessarily winning
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the House. I do not know, and I think it'll
be chaos if they don't. And I have them plus
three in the Senate. Your final map twenty seconds. My
final map is I don't know you're going.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
With I don't know. Don't know I'm going with I
don't know, So, in other words, vinced you to not know.
We're all in this together. This is Your Morning Show
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
A new way of talk, a new way of understanding
because we're in this together. This is your morning show
with Michael Gill Jordan. I'll give you one I didn't
see coming.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Kamala Harris stealing that line and using it over and
over again. I may have to change it. She's been
pushing that we're all in this together. Our question of
the day is, it's been a crazy election year. What
did you see coming that happened? What did you never
see coming that happened? To Nashville we Go?
Speaker 6 (00:51):
I didn't see Kamala Harris being the one running for president.
I believe that the election results will go in Donald
Trump's favor, But the real winners of tonight's election is
going to be the American people. Trump's going to change
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things for the better.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Well, that all depends on who gets control of the
House quite frankly, I think, look, things look very good
for Donald Trump, very good for the Republicans in the
United States Senate, but I can't put my finger on
the House. There are some who believe that if Donald
Trump pushes turnout the way he does, the House would
follow with him.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
But it's going to be a very close call, and.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
You can't get closer than Dixonville Notch, New Hampshire. Although
I think it was Rick that emailed earlier and said, well,
keep in mind, Joe Biden took five of those votes
in twenty twenty. This time it's split three to three.
Even that may be a sign. And podcaster Joe Rogan
has endorsed Donald Trump. Who knows if he's the one
that literally pushed Donald Trump over the finish line. I'm
trying to think, Gred, you sent me the latest. The
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Joe Rogan podcast increased another seven hundred thousand. I think
it was so Trump On Rogan reached forty five million people.
Jd Vance on Joe Rogan reached another fourteen and a
half million. Kamala Harrison no show. And that's not even
adding the million from Elon Musk, which was along with
his endorsement, the big happening last night on the final
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night of campaigning, and abortion on the ballot in ten states,
marijuana on the ballot and four other states on this
election day, and the Boeing strike is over. David Snati,
the CEO of American Policy Roundtable, most of the public square,
and our senior contributor is joining us throughout most of
this election day coverage. The reason I end up at
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three hundred and six or three hundred and twelve with
Nevada is the way the Republicans negated the registration advantage
for the Democrats engaged in mail in voting and early
voting and negated that advantage. Usually Republicans are way behind
at this time when the polls open. Not the case
this time around. Although we don't know what's coming on
(02:57):
election Day, I think Donald Trump has been the better candidate.
They seized the moments the best. Even though he had
a disastrous I mean it was a disaster of a debate,
he managed to overcome that in the end. He closed
strong with the mistakes that they made. And I think
the kind of like the trifecta. When first he did
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the rally in Madison Square Garden then they hand them
the deplorable two point zero and then of course the
garbage truck. At the end, I think he was clearly
the better candidate, and all she managed to do really
was proved she wasn't Donald Trump. So in the end
they end up with abortion, which, by the way, they
kind of negated themselves because the way these abortion votes
have been going, it wasn't nearly the scare tactic that
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they needed it to be for this general election. But
they basically have abortion versus the boogeyman, and the boogeyman
didn't sell. And I think in the end, the thing
I didn't see where the alliance is. I thought RFK
Junior would be a key factor in the third party
of a race, and it didn't. He ended up out
of the race and a line himself with Donald Trump.
So yeah, the Telsea Gabberd Democrat presidential candidate, RFK Democrat
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turned independent presidential candidate aligning with Trump, then the Elon Musk,
then the Megan Kelly, and then the Joe Rogan and
you know throughout Tucker Carlson alliance. I think that's all
too much, And because I believe that as Pennsylvania goes
so Michigan Wisconsin will go.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I'm going to give him the sweep.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
I think it's going to be a very close race,
but in the end and not a close result at all.
And I have Donald Trump with three hundred and six
or three hundred and twelve. That's my pathway for him.
And why anything you want to add to that? Because
I gave you the task of kamalom primarily.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
Well, I know, I appreciate that, and I appreciate your
consistency throughout. I think then when we look back at
this election is going to be a question of who
the most significant influencers were. And that's that's a word
that is used and is usually thought about new media
or online or digital media. But the fact is is
that the intellectual mainstream of the left, out of the
(05:00):
Atlantic and now out of the Associated Press, controlled by
foundations and others, and other of their publications that then
work their way through the New York Times and the
Washington Post, etc. They clearly have been a campaign mechanism
for the entire Democrat left. They have left all forms
of objectivity.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
They're gone. But they could never make talk radio work.
What if they can't make social media and podcasting work,
they're in real trouble.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
Those are the kinds of questions that will have long
term impacts here looking back, because as hard as it
is to believe, as grateful as America is that we
finally got to this day, we can get all with
our lives in about twenty four more hours in the
suspended animation, there is going to be another election, and
it starts tomorrow. It will culminate in two years, and
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then there'll be another one, and so we'll be at
this for a while. So the institutional changes on how
we get our information and how we make our decisions
are significant. And this is the year you've talked about
the death of journalism. Well, journalism has come back. It's
just not called journalism anymore. It's called campaign advocacy. Now,
maybe the undertone in this will come down if the
margins are as tight as we think they're going to
(06:12):
be in regards to actual vote councilor you're looking at
electoral college, let's look underneath as to what the numbers
will be.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
That will turn those electoral college numbers. Oh, they're not
going to be effact.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
They're going to be close maybe a thousand votes in
a state or three thousand votes in a state.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
So it's that close.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Oh, America is very divided, and America will be divided
tomorrow no matter what the result is, and almost equally.
But in the end, if we're doing post mortem, the
choice to get rid of Joe Biden and replaced with
Kamala Harris. I did that stat right before the debate.
She is basically by numbers, and they could be underpolled
(06:48):
in her favor and oversampled in her favor. But if
the polling is even accurate, they're no better off for
having replaced Joe Biden.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
Well, but and that's fair, then that's accurate. But if
Biden was in this race this we wouldn't even be
having a conversation.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah, I would have, personally, I am.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
I am convinced that suddenly John Podesta and Democrats strategist
to aren idiots. If they wanted to win the preregistration game,
they would have won it. If they wanted to win
the early vote and mail in vote game, they would
have won it decidedly. I don't think they want the presidency.
I think they want common to lose and be rid
of her and not have to deal with her for
forty eight years and come back with Wes Moore or Shapiro.
(07:29):
They want control of the House, and that is the
big question mark for me. I think America is going
to be everything's going to be great now Donald Trump won,
but if the Democrats control the House, you are grossly mistaken.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
Once again, being way ahead of all the rest. I
haven't heard that theory projected anywhere. And the fact that
that that that's really where they.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Want to go with this, I don't buy. That's stupid.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
If they really wanted to win, they'd have gone Shapiro
or Awsom, and they certain would have done knucklehead, and
they certainly would have gone this woke and over the line.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
Not at a time she shows that they still don't
have absolute complete control over all of the divisions of
the Democrat Party because you got to remember Joe Biden
was the nominee because of the Black Caucus and because
of South Carolina in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Let me do that was the deal that had to
be cut.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Assuming we wake up tomorrow morning and boy do I
have egg all over my face, and Kamala Harris is won,
and we'll know early if she wins North Carolina or
Georgia early.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
It's over. You'll be having an omelet by midnight.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
If she wins Wisconsin and Michigan and we're waiting on Pennsylvania,
I got news for you.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
It's over. I don't.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
I mean, it's a close race, but it's not going
to be a close result, and I don't think we're
going to be.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Waiting for days. This is your morning show with Michael
Del Trono.
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You, but better late than ever. We're grateful you're here now.
Enjoy the podcast.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
I laid out the case of voter enthusiasm, engaging and registration,
engaging in mail in voting, engaging and early voting.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I made the case of.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Capitalizing on viral moments, the better candidacy, the trying to
hide kamala and plain sight that failed, and then the
embracing of where people really are now and that would
be what Rogan's Trump interview is at forty five million.
JD Vansis is at seven. You want to know something
outstand astounding, The Elon Musk Joe Rogan interview from last
(09:58):
night is already at six and a half million. This
alliance with RFK, Tulsey Gabbard, Joe Rogan, Elon Musk, you know,
it just it seemingly is just too much. And in
the end, the bait and switch that betrayed their own voters,
Kamala not being really much better than Joe Biden and
really only to have nothing but abortion and Trump the boogeyman.
(10:23):
I don't think it's enough. I got Trump winning three
hundred and six or three hundred and twelve on the
electoral map. It'll be close getting there, but the result
won't be close. The House, I'm a little more concerned about.
And the Senate. You know, I'm really astounded at this
race in Ohio. If that hangs and Brown loses, I
think it could be I said plus three all along,
and I think that's what it'll be, and then it'll
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have the tiebreaker. But again, if it's not sixty, it's
really not of that much significance. The control of the
House will be very, very key for change, although Elon
Musk made it very clear the future of x and
the future of free speech is certainly on the line
in this election. All Right, if we wake up tomorrow
morning and I have egg all over my face and
Kamala Harris is the president elect, how did she get there?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
That's my question. Yeah, there's nobody else here, David san
NAUGHTI is here, so I get to answer that question.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
Well, she got there by winning Georgia, which means that
in spite of all of the regrets that were expressed
by so many people in Georgia about what happened in
twenty twenty and how it really was Zuckerbucks and all
that sort of stuff, and the whole Stacey Abrams saying
that somehow that whole move back toward a center in
Georgia fell apart.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
That's that's critical.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
And then the other thing is the fact that everybody
got faked out by Pennsylvania, because Pennsylvania is not anything
other than a deep blue state and you're not going
to change it no matter how many rallies you hold
in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
That would, in essence be how she did it.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
If that's what and then surprisingly she's going to win
Wisconsin or miss if she loses Michigan.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
To pulls it off in Wisconsin. That's how she did it, right.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
So you've got basically the wishful thinking that the leftist
trend in those three states has somehow been abated, and
it has.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
That's not good news for the future of America. By
the way.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
Now, on the other hand, I will say one other thing, Michael,
there is some good news. You notice that these are
middle aged adults now younger to middle aged adults, people
like Megan Kelly, like Joe Rogan, like Elon Musk. These
are people who are grown ups who are saying politics
is too dangerous to keep playing this like it's a
(12:37):
student council race. Yeah, right, And that maturity bodes well
for the future if those people can stay and pay attention.
I don't think Donaldchoyce Trump would be their absolute first
choice for a president of the United States if we
could start over again.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
But the maturity of their position in saying we have.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
To do its best, that's that's a grown up approach,
and that's that goes well for the future.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
David hosts the Public Square heard on two hundred stations,
the CEO of American Policy Roundtable, and also presides over
I Voters and as a senior contributor to your morning show.
He's been with us throughout the selection day coverage. We
started with the question what are the things in this
crazy year we saw coming? What are the things that
we didn't see coming? You know, when the year started,
I talked about, you know, when it comes time, if
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Donald Trump gets a nomination and it's not time, was
trump Ism best being passed on either to DeSantis or
to Probably at that point, we wouldn't have said JD.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Vans.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
We would have clearly said Marco Rubio or would it
be best carried on with Donald Trump? Well, it ended
up being Donald Trump. And then we started saying, well, then,
what's the future of trump Ism after Donald Trump? That
picture is completely different now because the future of trump
Ism isn't limited to Republicans. Figuring this out now with
(13:55):
Elon Musk, now with our FK Junior, now with Telsey Gabbert,
it's becoming a whole day different thing. It may be
the most hopeful significant thing. You just said it. I
just said it in different words, But I think we're
in complete agreement, and we should add that to our
list because that's huge.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I did not see that.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
I thought, well, the Republicans made a big mistake absorbing
and neutering the Tea party movement. Would they do the
same with trump Ism and then move back towards establishment Republicanism.
I don't think that's the case. In fact, I think
they become the new People's Party. The question becomes what
does a Democrat party become, especially with a loss here,
I think they get more woke, more militant, more left.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
I'm going to add one more thing, and you're not
going to like it, so we might have an argument
later today.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute. Just
in case we haven't had to do.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
This yet, let's get it on little bit on me.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
I would add the growth of your radio program over
the last year into that mix of ascending things people
did not see coming. Just listen to the talkbacks across
the country. These people have been listening to you for
a year. As the stations continue to expand and continue
to grow, and you made the talk about talk radio
not being there, hold on, hold on their partner, AM
(15:04):
radios are going to stick around. Because of things like
North Carolina, because we need to be able to go
somewhere where we can turn on a radio with batteries
and it's still free when we need it. And that
means talk radio is going to be around because people
are listening and they care. So it's this country is
very very closely divided, and media plays a big role
(15:24):
in it. And so what we've seen with Megan Kelly
and Joe Rogan and RFK and even jeff Bezos pulling
out from the endorsement arena bodes hopeful.
Speaker 8 (15:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Yeah, No, I would not add myself to that list.
I would say this backfires.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
You're that Jeffrey wouldn't ad himself was That's okay, That's
why I did it.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
No, I wouldn't. I absolutely do not.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
I absolutely disagree, and I don't think I've had any
influence whatsoever, But I would say this, All their plants
have backfired. Law fair backfired. That's huge, that's result defining
the assassination attempts backfired.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
That was huge.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
They actually played the deplorable two point zero card from
Biden slapping us and that you know what to what
was this last one? I'm buying my blank on it.
Come on, it's garbage. Yeah, you called this all garbage.
Donald Trump, you know, showed up with the garbage truck.
I mean, but the way they've embraced rather than gripe about,
embraced registration, embraced get out to vote, embraced mail and vote,
(16:23):
embraced early voting. The fact that they're starting today not
behind playing ketchup. I think that's defining. And just as
the Liberals didn't see talk radio then couldn't compete in
talk radio, they didn't see the shift away from mainstream media.
Nobody gives a you know what about debates and ABC
or CNN or MSNBC or even Fox for that matter.
(16:45):
In fact, the two biggest Fox o's are now independent
and changing the world with influence in podcasting. That's the
stuff they didn't see coming.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Hey, this is top cop Kathy Hinters in My Morning
show is your Morning Show with Mike Joornou.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Trust me, I never underestimate the Democrats, And I don't
buy they were this dumb this time around, from podcasting
to early registration to early voting to mail in voting,
I just don't buy it, to not going on Brogan
and other things that they did I don't buy that
this dumb. Maybe they are, but I don't buy it,
(17:22):
and I think they've got a bigger play in hand.
But first things first, I do have Donald Trump winning
either three oh six or three twelve, so very close race,
not a very close result. And by the way, I
disagree with most people. I think we're going to know
early because either way, if North Carolina or Georgia falls
early to Kamala Harris, she's the next president. If Michigan
(17:42):
or Wisconsin, If North Carolina and Georgia hold for Trump,
and I believe they will, and he takes Michigan or Wisconsin,
it's over early.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
That's just me. But it is election day and White.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
House correspondent John Decker will be following whoever wins. It
has been a crazy year, John Decker, how do we
get here? And what's good morning?
Speaker 9 (18:01):
Yeah, it's a crazy election, that's for sure. You know,
one of those elections where we talk about these seven
swing states that will decide who our next president is.
Nothing's changed, nothing's really changed in the polling over the
course of the.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Past month or so.
Speaker 9 (18:17):
We don't know if the polls are accurate. So I
think that's the reason why you just have to be patient, patient,
not only for tonight, but maybe patient for the next
two days beyond that as all the votes are counted.
Speaker 8 (18:31):
I agree with what you said.
Speaker 9 (18:32):
You know, I think that in North Carolina, that's the
state that I'll follow very closely tonight. It's really interesting
to me that Donald Trump visited North Carolina Saturday, Sunday,
he visited Monday. Is this eighty one in twenty sixteen,
He won it in twenty twenty, and yet he felt
the necessity to travel to that state three days in
a row, which means perhaps it's a little too close
(18:54):
for comfort for Donald Trump in that state. And if
Kamala Harris wins North Carolina, that could be all whether
for her. If Donald Trump secures North Carolina, which I
expect he will do, then we'll have to be patient
to see what happens in.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
Some of these other swing states.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Pennsylvania.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Pennsylvania is relevant because I think if Pennsylvania goes, Kamala Harris,
Michigan to go along Kamala Harris as well. They tend
to go together. But I don't think we're going to
be waiting on that. I think he's got Arizona, whether
he gets Nevada or not as what we call land.
Speaker 9 (19:24):
Yeah, just because Arizona's on the west coast. So that's
the reason why wait for that?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, you're wait for that. But but you are so
you were so right.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
She was all in on North Carolina and he went
all in in the end in Michigan.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
That was the place.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
No, No, you didn't hear what I said.
Speaker 9 (19:38):
I said that Donald Trump visited North Carolina three days
in a row, Saturday, Sunday, at Monday. Yeah, because Kamala
Harris state that he should have it firmly.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
In his column, you know, having won it in about twenty.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Sixteen in the twenty twenty No, I agree, but you
have to admit that's where she really If I had
to look at her campaign schedule, I would say she
prioritized trying to knock him out by winning North Carolina,
and that's why he engaged there as well, and that's
why she closed the gap there. So I think she is.
She made a play for North Carolina. He's made a
play for Michigan.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
And we'll see who effectively knows in Michigan.
Speaker 9 (20:11):
You know, Michigan is a state he lost by one
hundred and fifty four thousand votes four years ago.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
Can he flip them?
Speaker 9 (20:16):
Can he flip all those votes, you know, get the
new voters in. That's a big unknown. We'll have to
wait and see what the results are in Michigan. But
you know, Michigan, in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, they make up the
Blue Wall. And I think you're right. You know, if
Harris loses one of those blue Wall states over, Donald
Trump will be the next president of the United States.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
John Decker is our White House correspondent. All right, So,
I think you bring up a good point. In the unknown,
we don't know, We don't know if these polls are accurate.
If they are, it's very troublesome for Kamala Harris because
he's right there and there might still be some underpolling
in there. So if they're this close and Trump is
underpolling as always and they haven't solved how to get
(20:58):
that number, it looks very favorable for Trump. Two big
unknowns election day turnout and the abortion question on ballots.
Speaker 9 (21:06):
You agree, and and well, and I'd added three one more,
one more, And that's the gender gap. You know, the
gender gap. You know, it's either going to be the
story of the twenty twenty four campaign or the oversold
story of the twenty twenty four campaign. But to me,
that is one of those things that I'll be paying
a lot of attention to as it relates to exit
(21:28):
polling and how voters that, for instance, voted for Nicki
Haley and the Republican primaries, what they decided to do?
You know, how did they vote? You know, because we're
talking about a significant percentage of the Republican vote from
the spring, and what.
Speaker 8 (21:42):
Did those voters ultimately decide to do?
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Final question? We tend to in America obsess on the presidency.
I don't think that was our intent. I don't think
that was our founding father's focus. But we do obsess
on the presidency. Not a lot of talk about it,
but the House, far more of it and far too
close to call. Senate looks favorable for the Republicans, but
it better be a plus three or larger. And by
(22:07):
the way, I don't know about Casey necessarily, but the
fact that Brown looks like he could lose in Ohio
would be the shock of all shocks for me compared
to where.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I was a year ago. House and Senate.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Why aren't we talking as much about that, and do
you have any gut feelings.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
There, Yeah, I do.
Speaker 9 (22:23):
You know, I think that Democrats are playing defense in
the Senate, and the reason being is because they have
more seats to defend this election cycle than they had
to defend in the twenty twenty two mitterm election cycle.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
You know, we know they're already.
Speaker 9 (22:38):
Going to pick up one seat in West Virginia Joe
Manchins retiring. It's going to be built by the Republican
governor of that state is running for that seat. So
then you're at fifty to fifty, which means Republicans only
need to pick up one more seat, and Democrats have
very few seats that they can flip. You know that
they're looking at Texas. I think that's a long shot
in terms of knocking off Ted Cruz. You're a you're
(23:00):
looking at Ohio if you're a Republican, you're looking at
Montana as one of the two seats that they could
pick up. And you know, for Republicans, they really, as
you point out me, to have a larger margin than
fifty one forty nine. Why because of Susan Collins and
because of Lisa Murkowski. You know, they are not you
know going to always go along with the rest of
(23:22):
the Republican Party as it relates to what the Republican
Party wants.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
To do in terms of if it's a Kamala Harris.
Speaker 9 (23:29):
Presidency blocking nominees, or in terms of a Donald Trump
presidency going along with some of the names that he
may be considering for cabinet positions.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Forty love caution, forty love caution.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
I said this off the air, I'm grateful for this show,
especially forgetting to have you be a part of it.
And what I said off the air stands. I'm grateful
to this election. It's got us texting and I treasure that.
John Decker, there you go. We'll talk again tomorrow. Well
tomorrow we should have results, should have results.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Appreciate We'll see.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
We don't know.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
Thankfully, you got a White House correspondent, John Decker, Well, David,
he gets the Senate.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
The House, uh, the you know on the Senate side.
We'll post more than that.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
With in some of these key races, distancing themselves from
Biden and Harris. And if that worked. He missed West Virginia.
I think West Virginia Montana in the bag for the Republicans.
And if you get the White House, then you've got control.
But we turned to Pennsylvania and Casey and Ohio and
Brown and in Ohio in particular, they're looking really in trouble. Arizona.
(24:35):
I think they're fine. Yeah, that's a surprise, there's no doubt.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
He did talk about mansion leaving though, and the Republicans
being projected to win that, and they have been from
the beginning.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
So no, I think that's one of the great political
characters of our time.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
By the way, we'll be taking that send seat with
his dog. Yeah, So it's going to be some very
interesting changes.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
Michael, I think the important thing for me is that
the sun's coming up tomorrow morning either way, and the
construct of America does not change based upon a presidential election.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
It feels like it changes, but it doesn't.
Speaker 8 (25:09):
Right.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
It's like the presidency's the giant aneurism that every four
years threatens to pop and blow up everybody's understanding of America.
But it doesn't because there is a House, there is
a Senate, there are state legislatures, and there are governors
underneath it. So the sun will come up tomorrow and
our responsibilities will be the same, and it will be
twice as interesting as it is right now. And I'm
(25:31):
not saying that because I get paid to be on
this show or because I get paid to be in politics.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
It's because this is how America works. Quite frankly, I've
known you for a long time. You don't get paid
for either.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
I'm from Phoenix to Tampa with Nashville Akron and you
in between. It's your morning show with Michael del Chuano.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
On this election day, it's your morning show, So your
voice matters most what But Amy, I have no idea where.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
It's coming from.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
So doring your show, Michael, Pennsylvania that you've been talking
a lot about went from minus one to eighteen for
Trump to minus one point thirty one during your show.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Is that good?
Speaker 8 (26:11):
That?
Speaker 5 (26:11):
That is a shocking number shift though, I mean, I
don't think I was any to do with my show,
but in the timeframe of election day and Paul's opening,
that's a huge shift going towards Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
What was the other one?
Speaker 9 (26:22):
I was trying to figure out who to vote on
the school boards, so I did a little research and
I found something almost as good as the goal of
a ticket.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
It was blue vote.
Speaker 9 (26:33):
They have it for each district and basically it's Democrats
telling you who to vote for, then you.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Do the opposite. I guess, uh, thanks for your talking
Mark move.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Yeah, David, you you've met you know I voters dot Com.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
And eye voters dot com.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
Yeah, we do the same thing on eye voters dot
Com have been since for al since nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
We put up ranking endorsements left and right, and a
lot of people just go there and say, Okay, if
I'm I want to know what the right's doing, and
it's vice versus referencing, it's invaluable.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Fastest way to know is check the endorsing organizations.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Yep, this is going to be an interesting This is
gonna be an interesting conversation because I do think it's.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Going to be a very very close race.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Who knows, maybe even one thousand, ten thousand decide votes
that swing entire states. So close race but not a
close electoral college result is what I'm anticipating. And because
if she takes North Carolina early, I know it's over.
Or if Donald Trump holds in Georgia and North Carolina
and takes either Michigan or Wisconsin, I believe it's over.
So I actually don't think it's gonna be one of these,
(27:34):
but I could be wrong. And you know, the pollsters
are saying the election is too close to call. We're
even tight in Dixville Notch, New Hampshire three to three Rory.
What do we anticipate in terms of results and when
we'll know it?
Speaker 10 (27:47):
Yeah, you know, North Carolina and Georgia should come in
relatively early. We heard though from Maricopa County, we're home
of Phoenix, Arizona, that they could take ten to thirteen
days before they hit the final is there.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
It's a two page ballot.
Speaker 10 (28:02):
There are new rules about how you can correct your
ballot if you mailed it in, and that sort of
thing that.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Drag out the process.
Speaker 10 (28:09):
But of course, as you've said, Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, they
have started the process of at least opening the envelopes
now to begin to count all the mail in ballots.
But that's a lot of work to do, and when
the state is as close as it is, we need
that absentide ballot count in order to name a winner.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
You know, Red brought up something earlier off the air
that I thought was really important. The reluctance of these
networks to make these calls too, and the role that
will play. They'll be very hesitant to make early calls, right,
I mean, well, they've got burned in Florida.
Speaker 10 (28:42):
Look at all the trouble Fox got in for rightly
calling Arizona for Joe Biden early, right, and.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
That guy lost his job.
Speaker 10 (28:49):
So yeah, no one wants to get these calls wrong.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Because what I'm looking.
Speaker 10 (28:55):
For too is to see if a candidate Trump ra
Harris comes out early to declare victory when maybe the
numbers aren't all there yet. But now you've got to
try to claw back that victory from them, and you
know you've already swayed popular opinion.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Remember twenty sixteen. But Esta comes out on the lawn
and says, we're not willing to concede. Then a few
hours later, two in the morning, Hillary finally did. But
we'll see, all right, Roy, great reporting tomorrow. We may
or may not know, but we'll talk then. Thanks Michael,
you got it all right. Final say time for me.
I've kind of laid out the case. I think there
(29:30):
are three big hurdles for those of you like watching
tips tonight, your first eyes when the polls close on
the East Coast have them laser focused. I believe on
North Carolina more than Georgia. But Georgia and North Carolina,
Donald Trump has to win both. If Kamala Harris looks
laser close in one and it's going to drag out
(29:50):
for a long time, or she wins North Carolina Georgia,
it's over. Kamala is the next president. But if Donald
Trump can hold North Carolina and Georgia, then your eyes
go next next to the Midwest. Pennsylvania. I think that's
been oversold. They improved a lot of things in twenty
twenty two over twenty twenty. You may not wait days
for Pennsylvania. Then again you might. I think it's going
(30:12):
to be irrelevant if Donald Trump can win Wisconsin or Michigan.
I actually this is a fun one. I actually think
it's going to be Wisconsin. David thinks it's going to
be Michigan. I actually have it on my map as both.
But I actually think Wisconsin looks better for Trump than Michigan.
And I think it's possible she could take Pennsylvania and
Michigan together. Even though I have my map, He's gonna
(30:35):
take Pennsylvania and Michigan in Wisconsin, but keep your eyes
laser focused after North Carolina and Georgia on Michigan or Wisconsin.
Trump has to win one of those two where it
does come down to Pennsylvania and out west. I think
Arizona looks very secure for Donald Trump. I don't care
how long it takes to count. I think he's gonna
get Nevada too, but he only needs one of the two. David,
if am I missing anything in terms of windows or
(30:57):
time zone, I.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Think you're right about Wisconsin.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
The only reason I've changed from Wisconsin and Michigan is
is because of the time that Trump seemed to spend.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
So he either feels that.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
He's got it and he's now going for Michigan as well,
or he doesn't. But Decker brings up a good point,
John Decker, because Wisconsin, the actual margin of victory for
Biden was only ten three hundred and forty two votes
in twenty twenty, so Trump goes in needing to change
that number, where he's got to change a lot bigger
number in the ninety thousand range in Michigan, so it
(31:27):
would be an easier state for him. And it's about
to say it's not the same in electoral votes, but.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
It's pretty close. Yeah, so he only needs one or
the other. Tech technology has impacted certainly. Our mailboxes are
for junk mail. We have no home phones, we have
mobile phones and we don't answer them. We're a divided
state and a social dilemma. So and we have a
great deal of mistrust. Rightly so for media and universities,
these things have all affected polling. The other big issue
(31:52):
is how Donald Trump underpolls because his people in particular,
who are told their garbage and deplorable don't like to answer.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Don't think they've solved that.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
So if we go through all the swing states and
Harris is only up by a half a point when
Biden was up by seven at this point, I think
Wisconsin's in trouble for her. Pennsylvania Trump's up four. Hillary
was up two point one in twenty sixteen. I think
Pennsylvania is a problem for them. Michigan, Harris is only
up a half a point. Hillary was up three and
(32:21):
a half and Donald Trump took Michigan. Arizona. Trump is
actually up three and in Arizona Trump's up a half.
I think he sweeps them all. I have him at
three twelve that's my final say. They embraced podcasting in
the future and where people really are. They embraced early voting,
mail in voting, and early registration. They've done everything right
and they've earned it. I don't have them necessarily winning
(32:42):
the House. I do not know, and I think it'll
be chaos if they don't. And I have them plus
three in the Senate. Your final map twenty seconds. My
final map is I don't know you're going.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
With I don't know. Don't know I'm going with I
don't know, So, in other words, vinced you to not know.
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