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This is your morning.
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Show with Michael Bill Jordan.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
You do realize in twenty twenty six, I'm going to
be a chisel to a'donnis.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
It's going to make you all very uncomfortable. What are
you talking about? It's kind of like when I got
my beef tallow lotion.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, and just like everything I saw online, suddenly I
was thirty years younger.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, what are you going to start working out?
Speaker 5 (00:50):
No?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I've started a PhD diet one of our affiliates in Greenville,
South Carolina. We have a client and I'm walking through
with the doctor a new diet and exercise plan and
it is melting off. So you combine that a little
bit with my my lean pills, and I am I'm
a lean, mean machine. I'm gonna get cut. I've just
decided it's gonna be like that transition when you know,
(01:12):
all of a sudden, you know Joe Rogan has just cut.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
That kind of a thing just really drastically changed. Joe
Rogan gets in the cold bath. How about you getting
in a cold bath? See what that would do for you?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Uh, our bathtub is unused. Okay, I'm trying to think
when you just said that, I don't think I've had
a bath since my Wexford house in Tulsa. No, so
I don't think I've had a bath in twenty six years.
I'm a shower guy. Anyway, all this small talk aside.
It's twenty it's eight minutes after the hour. Welcome to
December tenth, Wednesday. We're expecting a rate cut. That's good news.
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Should be a quarter cut, and Australia did at least something.
And when you get into the details of this, it's
not as simple as all age verification.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Kids will get around that.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
No, this is a government requirement and all the penalties
are on the websites, the social media sites and the companies.
So if you go to your kid's history browser and
you see they're on something they shouldn't be on. There's
no threat to you as a parent, no threat.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
To your kids.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
But all you gotta do is reported with the government
and they get fined, and they get fined enough, trust me,
they'll do whatever it takes to make sure people under
sixteen or not on. Will it work, I don't know,
but at least they're doing something. Because these kids on
smartphones and on social media are lonely depressed, committing suicide,
they have eating disorders.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Something must be done.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
There's a reason why we don't let twelve year old
children drink or drive, or drink and drive. At least
Australia is doing something more on that coming up. So
Glenn Beck, who, by the way, Red is thoroughly convinced
is AI.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Redd fixed to Glenn no longer exists that he's AI.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
That theory aside, Glenn was probably David's not anybody the
way is the CEO of the American Policy Roundtable. He's
the host of the Public Square. He's even playing hurt
with the viruses joining us. I think you would agree
with me because you know me, You Glenn, we were
all on this AI as it was coming and trying
to learn as much as we could, as fast as
we could. We could see some good things and then
(03:27):
we could see a lot of really uncertainties and dangers
on the horizon. So Angela from Chandler Arizona called in
last hour and she said, wait a minute. The guy,
the Paul Revere, that was telling us all about the
dangers of AI, is now embracing AI to educate our children.
And his first ever George AI is of course an
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interview with George Washington. So let me ask you, David,
is this something we should be embracing, avoiding or waiting
and see?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Good morning, Michael.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
I think you're set up on The question from Australia
is very interesting and it leads us into the right
channel to talk about the bigger question that you're raising
regarding Glunbeck and Georgia AI. People will often say, you know, you, guys,
the technologies are neutral is how you use them, And
oftentimes that's true. People will say, well, money's neutral, it's
(04:23):
how you use it. There's a lot of things about
the technology. Algorithms make all the difference. Well, and that's
the point. So but when you think about what Australia
is now being forced to do, to protect their children.
You have to ask yourself this from a moral perspective.
If you were the person who invented Facebook or one
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of the major social media platforms, and you saw the
devastation that it was happening in the lives of young people,
would you have the moral courage to say, I'm closing
my company and I'm eliminating this technology because the unintended
consequences are too grave in regards to what benefits we
may have.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
The answer to that is no.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
But when we watched Social Dilemma, the documentary which I
encourage everybody to watch on Netflix. It's now four years old,
but just as powerful as the year came out because
nothing has changed. Unfortunately, while they won't do that, they
will look in the camera and say, none of our
children are allowed to be on social media and we
haven't decided if it'll be sixteen or eighteen before they can.
They all said that, whether it was Google, Facebook.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
All of them.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
So the bigger question is, while we're running around like
shocked teenagers getting into the candy store that we're not
our kids getting into a candy store that we're not
supposed to be in, and the forbidden fruit reality of GM.
I wonder whether this is really going to end up
and isn't this cool? And isn't this neat? And not
thinking about logical consequences. This is why we're supposed to
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have leaders in our culture and families are supposed to
lead for their own good and their own well being. Okay,
so we've got a problem. This is not a neutral technology.
That's the thing that we must understand. Because the technology
is predicated upon thievery. AI is predicated upon thievery. These
companies are stealing every word that's out there that they
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did not write, assembling it.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
You please forgive me another breaking a commandment that they
did not live, that they did not experience, that they
did not discern, that was not revealed to them. It's
taking the words with no human life experience or context.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
That's what makes it different.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
And because that's an excellent amplification, and you're exactly right,
words matter. Now, there is one set of words that
is living and active, and that's the Bible. And it
makes that claim about itself. You can try it out
and live it for yourself to see whether it's true
or not. But that's the claim that it makes. There
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is a reality that when Christmas happened, when God came
to earth and the person of Christ he came and
is called by the apostle John the Lagos. That's a
concept that was around for a long time before Jesus,
the idea that there is a communication from on high
that is significant, that is true truth, and that matters.
Words matter. So when you're say we're going to set
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up a reality of a technology where we're just going
to scrape all the words into large language models, and
then we're going to teach those words how to a
software program, how to answer questions, there's no interpretive reality
what soever.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
One million of us could communicate with AI on the
exact same topic and get one million different answers.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
That's the difference.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Now, it's funny you bring up that other the topic
of the supernatural and divine. People will talk about Jesus's
claim to a fed five thousand with fish and bread,
or walk on water, or raise Lazarus from the dead.
You forget the three greatest supernatural moments in human history,
(08:05):
the conception of Christ and birth of Christ, the Holy
Spirit's arrival when John the Baptist baptizes him, and the Resurrection.
Those are three moments that are not just historic or
in a book, They are the most divine supernatural moments
in all of mankind and human history so well.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
And others.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
And you could add a fourth and that would be
the Crucifixion in essence the fulfillment of all ancient prophecies
regarding them aside in Christ, in that moment there. So yeah,
So again, I didn't want to try to make the
answer here to be theological, and I'm trying to elevate
the answer to is the concept of what are words?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Now?
Speaker 6 (08:44):
We can go Christian, we can go Jewish, we can
go Greek, we can go Roman, we can go Babylonian,
we can go Mesopotamium. We can go as far back
as you want and move as far forward as you want.
Words have always mattered in culture. That's the one point.
Words matter, and there is no universal interpreter of words that.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
We can build.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
All we're doing with AI is reconstructing the Tower of Babble.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Well there's two things too.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
One is I can use AI as a tool, and
I can get some pretty good accurate responses based on
how I use that tool.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I remember when pro.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Tools came out, that was the taste, Yeah, but I
mean what we would do with the editing, you know,
with a with a grease pencil and a razor blade.
Now we could do digitally, but you were only as
good as you learned how to use that.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
And so.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
This is your morning show with Michael del Chno.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
It was my Albama City.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
I think AI got a little nervous when you started
talking about it and started setting your feed.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Actually, technically, what just happened is impossible, David and I
have experienced this for fifteen years. The minute you get
onto something and I don't know if it's a hack,
I don't know if it's the enemy himself, but these
crazy things happen. I'm trying to but I will tell
you from and I won't bore you with details. What
just happened is impossible, and that's why I'm freaked out.
(10:13):
But anyway, we're back, all right. So where we were
talking about AI, words matter and where they come from.
The big picture is Glenn Beck, who was one of
the first to come out and speak of the dangers
of AI, is now embracing AI. So it's got people saying,
which is it bad or good? And he starts with
an interview with George Washington, our founding father.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
We'll get to that in a minute.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
And then you're talking about well, ultimately, with the algorithms,
it's mostly danger you know. But I would add to
that quantum computing, which is to follow. I mean, this
is really beta. We haven't even gotten to VHS and
CD and where it's really headed, and that's where it
gets increasingly dangerous.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I think, yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
And I think if you look at the first premise
on anything, when we say that things are neutral, therefore
it depends on how we use them or are they
really I don't think that AI passes the neutral test.
I really do not, because of the fact that it's
based upon thievery and control. Those are the fundamental realities.
The scrape of all the data is then implanted into
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a software program that then controls the reality from there,
and once people begin to trust that, that becomes very dangerous.
Now I'm not suggesting this as a TI rate against Gunbeck.
I think what he's doing is a fascinating experiment. And
I sure love the way that Glenbeck respects American history
and is investing in American history the way most of
us are not.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
So that's not the question here.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
If this doesn't work out, well, I'm sure Glunback will
pivot and move to the next place. There's no plot
here for George AI to take over the world. I
will tell you, though, after spending fifty years of my
life studying people in the context of original documents and
in the context of trying to get one hundred years
behind their eyes on how history really works, that even
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just a few seconds that we've heard from the first
revealing of George AI responding are from someone that's studied
George Washington.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
It's laughable.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
It's just laughable, because if you don't understand the character
of the person, you can't ever answer the questions.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
So basically, he says, George, we have programmed a lot
of information and given you a lot of information on
what's going on in today's America based on your writings
and the writings of the rest of the founders. What
do you feel like is the biggest problem or where
we should start fixing? And then George Washington responds, well,
if I may speak plainly, my countryman, the danger and
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then Glenn interrupts, may I stop you for a second.
Can you dumb it down just a little bit, just
giving it more and more definition. He goes, Okay, I
do have twenty nine points, and they're all reference to
exactly what we said in the past, just in today's language. Okay,
can you do it just in today's language. All right,
let me speak to Americans. Now, we went from country
(12:58):
Rundt to Americans. If I'm honest, America's biggest problem isn't
political or economic.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
It's all moral.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
You have drifted from the virtues that make liberty even
possible in the first place. Freedom to be free, you
have to be disciplined, You have to have faith, you
have to have character. And if you don't have any
of those things, laws, laws can't stop anything. And I
mean and I mean little government terms either weak or oppressive.
(13:26):
You have grown skeptical of the truth. You're reckless with debt.
You're comfortable blaming instead of building anything. And this time
we've understood the self governance begins with self control. Whatever
this thing is, it is right that you can't have
a republic without self governed individuals. It has to be
about not mob rule and cool kids or anarchy. It
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has to be about moral, self governed people, living and
personal responsibility and a limited government protecting their property right.
I mean, the answers are all right. What makes it laughable?
I had to do that for them so they knew
what George said. No, I appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
Well, what makes it laughable is the idea of anyone
thinking that they're capable to put words in George Washington's mouth,
Because that's foolish. Now I care we whethery're putting words
in Harry Truman's mouth, or words in JFK's mouth, or
words in George Washington.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Trust me, that's coming sure.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
So what we've really done here is we've just decided
to build a software program loaded up with data, create
algorithms by which it functions and experiences and all the
different pieces of the construction of that whole process, the
construction of the whole process. And now we're testing the software,
like you know, here's the question, fill on the blanks. Well,
(14:49):
the blanks are being filled by the words that have
been placed in a technological.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
George Washington can't answer that question because George Washington is dead.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
He's in heavenit he doesn't live here anym more.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
You can go back at the way he answered questions
in his time and astutely try to translate that into
our time or contextually into our time, but you simply
can't do it, no matter how much data you have.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And we're down to twenty seconds because the enemy. You'll
memorize that for you.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
What you just said is the question of how do
you get to knowledge, not just words.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah, we're gonna have to come back tomorrow and do
part two of this, among other things.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Are you gonna be well enough?
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
All right? Sorry for the interruption. You know how Satan
is his morning show is my morning He likes to
shut it off. Job kidding you. We're five all right?
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Yo, Hi everybody, This is Dion the Wanderer.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
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Speaker 1 (16:08):
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Speaker 3 (16:10):
Merry Christmas from all of us to all of you
thirty five minutes after the hour. If you're in the
Central time zone, you got about twenty five minutes to
be to work by eight o'clock. I just got this
from Chuck. Chuck writes, FYI, just as you and Dave
we're really getting into the meat of your discussion about AI,
the radio went dead.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
At least Darren Tulsa. It was everywhere.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I'm used to that, but I can tell you, unlike
when I'm at a radio station and I don't really
know what's going on, this is my studio. I know everything,
and we have redundancy, and what happened was impossible.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
So I try to think no longer. Can you say
it was impossible?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Well, I mean it's like, well, that is one heck
of a coincidence if you're just getting up. The FED
is expected to cut the interest right by a quarter
point today.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
The President is not ruling out Venezuela.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
And one student is dead another hurt after a shooting
at Kentucky State University. The shooter is in custody. Well,
you know I love Christmas music and you know I
love war. We get to do both this morning. It's
the fiftieth anniversary of the song Why.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Can't We Be Friends?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
But finally the studios have talked War into doing a
Christmas song.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Will debut it for you, but first I get the
unique thrilled to talk to the lead singer, Lonnie Jordan.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Hey, Hey, all right, listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna try
to be as fair as I can to Jerry, but
oh my gosh, it's Lonnie Jordan, It's War It's why
can't We Be Friends. I'm gonna try to be judicious
in this, But Lonnie, thank you for a lifetime of
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music and one of my all time favorite songs.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Well thank you. You also have to thank Jerry because
he's the one who edit and recorded and pushed me
to the edge and all that stuff. So he's I
would say, partner in crime.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, And I don't know who wants to respond to this,
Lonnie or Jerry.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Probably this one would go to Lonnie.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
But I think it's one of the most interesting stories
in music, how the song came to be and the
and really it goes to the uniqueness of the music,
which I'm going to address. But the people that had
attracted and once they attracted all in one place, what
would happen, and it really birthed one of the most unique,
incredible songs and a song that's more relevant today. I
(18:23):
think would have never happened if people were not getting
along at your concerts.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Oh no, yeah, actually yeah. Actually it's interesting because in
Japan on a tour and we went out to get
some some sushi or kobe b or something, and we're
walking down the street and we you know, there's no
GPS's right, so we're you know, trying to find this
restaurant and ask people do you know where this is
or the street that we're looking for, And as we're walking,
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people are walking to the other side of the street
because we look like some kind of a gang or something.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
You know.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
It just came out of a battlefield, so, you know.
And that's with the whole concept of hey, why can't
we be friends, Why can't we talk to each other
about us?
Speaker 3 (19:05):
You know.
Speaker 8 (19:05):
And so that same night, we're playing.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
In the Budicon and we're backstage and we're coming up with,
you know, this concept, and there's a problem. We're late
because something wrong with the sounds, so they're fixing it.
Were late going on and there and the audience starts
to get upset and some rival groups or something start
to argue, and there's the place a little bit crazy,
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and you know, and Howard actually came out and said, hey, guys,
we're gonna be out in a Minute's just why can't
We be friends? Blah blah blah.
Speaker 8 (19:38):
And that's the origin of the song.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
And we would do and we basically wrote it in
addressing I'm backstage playing uh reggae groove, you know, and
the death and Howard started singing that. He just kept repeating,
why can't we be friends?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
That was basically it.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
And by the way, and we had just done the
why Can't We Be Friends? Album and we were going
back to finish a couple of songs, and.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
That was the last song we did for the album.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, oh man.
Speaker 8 (20:05):
It came back, came back.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
To the States, the mainland, and then went into the
studio and the finished yeah, finished it up from there.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Well, you know, it speaks to the uniqueness of the
war sound and the different people that it would attract.
I remember to this day the first time I heard
why can't We Be Friends? That's how amazing. The lyric
was amazing, the groove was the message. I mean, it
was just everything, and it was such a unique sound.
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And it's the fiftieth anniversary. Boy, time flies, right, I
hope we've been having fun. Yeah, and it's a song
we need more than ever. But I mean, you know,
all the different verses and then sung by different people.
It was just absolute magic. And it's hard to believe
it's fifty years and now it's Christmas. Yes, it's Christmas.
Let's talk about that song too.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Which came out of the song Summer. Nobody's ever done
that before. We took one of our other songs, the Summer,
which was an on More Hero all over the world,
and the record company kept saying, you guys should do
a Christmas record, you should do a Christmas record, and
we agreed we shouldn't do but we couldn't come up
you know, we didn't kind of didn't want to do
the same old, same old. So we came up with
the concept of taking the summer track and summer idea
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and relating it to Christmas. And it worked amazing.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
You remember remember the movie Love Actually where they featured
the You tell so many stories at once, but one
is taking a popular song and changing it to.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Make it Christmas. Uh that one was really bad. Yours
is really good.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
So hey Lonnie and or Jerry either, because Jerry is
the longtime manager and producer Lonnie one of the lead singers.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Where do you think that unique sound came from? What's
what's the magic that sets war apart?
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Well, if you remember Jimmy Hendricks saying are you experienced? Well,
I experience was from the streets, and uh we.
Speaker 8 (22:03):
You know, we bought different attitudes.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Genres of music, everything to the to the table together
and just mixed it up like a mixed salad bowl.
And without thinking. We didn't know what we were doing that.
To be honest with you, we didn't read music. We
didn't even know what the studio was, you.
Speaker 8 (22:23):
Know, a real studio put it that way.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
And uh so all those elements that we had lack of,
we just bought it to the table and just pretty
much made magic. It was really magic. A lot of
the music is jams, you know, we just jams and
ideas that they had musically. In fact, when when I
first met them, the one thing that I that stood
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out when I listened to what they were doing when
they auditioned for me was painted black. They had a
Latin version do you d D D? Painted Black? That
was like it's nothing I'd ever heard part of it
or anything, And I went, wow, you've got more of
that stuff. I'd be really interested, you know. And eventually,
you know, and then we you know, jams in the
(23:07):
studio with Eric, and we did solo wine and you know,
and on and on and on on, and I've spent
much of my life, you know, editing this stuff so
we can put it out as records and singles. Because
some of the jams were like forty five minutes long,
and I would find a small part of the jam
and I say, b gee, that's really cool, you know, right,
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and then boom, we'd go make a record, write a
song about it, and make the record. But they were
free to do whatever they wanted to do in the
studio because that's who that's Sue warriors. War was like
a free form, you know. That's why every song doesn't
sound like the last song. Every everyone's different, every jam
is different, and would you know, it's my job to
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create music, you know, pop music out of it.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
What's interesting to me because we could talk about songs
that were very popular a long time ago and are
still played today. But a lot of this was very
reflective of the time, and maybe it says more about
how America hasn't changed much, we haven't grown much. But
I mean it's not only that. There's that the sound
has stood the test of time. The message has two,
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don't you think, guys, Well for.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Sure, Yeah, we're all learning from each other in this world,
you know, more and more and which helps communication, you know,
and communication through music, which is therapy, especially ours, like
you were saying earlier.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
But I let me.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Hopefully I'm not changing the subject. But the more Jerry
and I do these interviews, the more I'm learning about
things that I can't remember that Jerry was bringing up
and I'm and it's helping me and the communications part
is even better. And that's basically how we've created a
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lot of this music in the studio, after experiencing the streets,
you know, to come up with ideas and stuff like that,
you know, because well, I.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Didn't think about to help you, Lannie. I used to
have an analogy. You know.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
People would ask me about you know, radio and television
and stuff, and I would say, well, television, college kind
of produces TV.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
People life produces radio. People.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I think that's kind of what you're talking about. You
guys were you know, just from the neighborhood. You lived
life and then you took this gifting and collaborated it.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
But you made magic.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
I mean, I was trying to think, I guess, and
this may sound shallow. Why can't we be friends? This
is probably my favorite? But spill the wine low Rider
Cisco kid. I mean, did you have a favorite, either
of you?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
All of them over all, kids, right?
Speaker 5 (25:52):
I lead the next one, yeah, and the next one.
But you have to understand I play all of them
on state. Well, not all of them because we have
too many of them. But h I play all the
major hits on stage, and they're all my favorite, to
be honest with you, because I love watching the fans
sing it. They won't let me sing it. I'm trying
(26:13):
to sing the song for this sing and over me.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Yeah, No, I would, I would, and I would be
guilty of that, Lonnie. It would be that would be
torture for me to watch you and not sing along.
And by and by the way, Lonnie, we would do
it in your voice, you know, it be our voice.
We're visiting with Lonnie Jordan of the group War on
the fiftieth anniversary of Why Can't We Be Friends? And
(26:37):
Jerry Goldstein, the longtime producer and manager and finally a
Christmas song out of War.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Jerry Well, the record company all these years has been
trying to get us to do a Christmas record, and
we finally, you know, looked at each other one night
and said, let's you know, I got this idea. Let's
take the summer track and making Christmas, you know, and
we started writing the lyrics and it all came together,
(27:04):
brought it to the company. Everybody loved it, and we
put it out here we are. We just made a
video and now we have a lyric video.
Speaker 8 (27:11):
Too, so we're kind of did what.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
They asked us to do and we love it. So
hopefully you guys love it.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
You know, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
I know I'm gonna because I know who made it.
And here we go, folks, Finally a Christmas song from War,
a holiday gift from War and your morning show.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yes It's Christmas.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
I Love down with my friends alone, playing pool.
Speaker 9 (27:44):
Song, sting cheese, Christmas trees, sly Can standing.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
To call it squ.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
Yesus Christ.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
The Best Time, his soul, dreaming sand.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
For this wee.
Speaker 9 (28:44):
Lots of special goodies by say.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Christmas Morning.
Speaker 9 (28:55):
Magicis Christmas Presence.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I told you you're gonna love it. Well, you love summer,
of course you're gonna love. Yes, it's Christmas from San.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Diego, California. That is Lonnie George, lead singer of.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
War and the band War with their finally long awaited
Christmas song, It's Christmas. Yes, It's Christmas, seventy seven years old.
Tell me Lonnie still can't sing. What a thrill it
was to visit with them? You can down that lot
that song everywhere songs are downloaded and on YouTube.
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a judge is going to allow the secret grand jury
testimony of the Jeffrey Epstein co conspirator Glene Maxwell to
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Speaker 1 (31:34):
Give Blondie a little repriz.
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It's your morning show with Michael del Chino more Mikey.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
I thought what Glenn Beck did with George AI was awesome.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
It brought back memories of that movie War Games with
the interaction between a human and a computer. Shall we
play a game? My question is is did Mike McCann
give out his voice for the voice of George Washington?
Because those two sound an awful lot alike. Anyway, love
your show, God bless, thank you so much. It's a
magical voice that Mike McGinn. It's always been that way.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
When I was a teenager, he would talk about post
nasal drip from Mother Nature with the chance of rain. WQUI,
I've got a bad voice for George Washington. I'll have
to go back and re listen if I'd expected to
lower the interest rate by a quarter of a point.
The President is not ruling out a Venezuelan ground troop,
a mission, and a winter storm hitting the Great Lakes
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were born, all right.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Closing moments with Roy O'Neil, our National correspondent. A judge
is allowing the secret grand jury test on Jeffrey Epstein's
co conspirator Gallaine Maxwell. Here's another one of those where
rule of law takes a back seat to public curiosity.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Rory, just what will we find out and when will
we find it out? Yeah?
Speaker 10 (33:13):
Not a whole lot is essentially what we're going to
find out. And that's from the judge himself. And again
this relates specifically to the Gelane Maxwell grand jury transcripts. Look,
there's plenty of other stuff out there, more directly from
the grand jury activities related to Jeffrey Epstein, but this
is just the Maxwell stuff. And then the judge even
wrote like quote, they do not discuss or identify any
(33:34):
client of Epstein's or Maxwell's unquote, So if you're looking
for names, they're not in these documents, and nor should
they be. Right, Well, we knew that Maxwell. You never
know what you're going to find, right when some of
these grand juries go fishing. When we know that Maxwell
essentially was rounding up the young girls who would be abused.
He didn't know if she mentioned specifically for Ben in particular,
(33:58):
and that would that may have been included there. So
the judge in this case says no names to be found,
but he said that, you know, go ahead, release it,
but make sure any information that identifies the victims is concealed.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Roory O'Neil, great reporting as always, We'll talk again tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
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It's going to make you all very uncomfortable. What are
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Yeah, and just like everything I saw online, suddenly I
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all of a sudden, you know Joe Rogan has just cut.
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That kind of a thing just really drastically changed. Joe
Rogan gets in the cold bath. How about you getting
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Uh, our bathtub is unused. Okay, I'm trying to think
when you just said that, I don't think I've had
a bath since my Wexford house in Tulsa. No, so
I don't think I've had a bath in twenty six years.
I'm a shower guy. Anyway, all this small talk aside.
It's twenty it's eight minutes after the hour. Welcome to
December tenth, Wednesday. We're expecting a rate cut. That's good news.
(01:48):
Should be a quarter cut, and Australia did at least something.
And when you get into the details of this, it's
not as simple as all age verification.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Kids will get around that.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
No, this is a government requirement and all the penalties
are on the websites, the social media sites and the companies.
So if you go to your kid's history browser and
you see they're on something they shouldn't be on. There's
no threat to you as a parent, no threat.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
To your kids.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
But all you gotta do is reported with the government
and they get fined, and they get fined enough, trust me,
they'll do whatever it takes to make sure people under
sixteen or not on. Will it work, I don't know,
but at least they're doing something. Because these kids on
smartphones and on social media are lonely depressed, committing suicide,
they have eating disorders.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Something must be done.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
There's a reason why we don't let twelve year old
children drink or drive, or drink and drive. At least
Australia is doing something more on that coming up. So
Glenn Beck, who, by the way, Red is thoroughly convinced
is AI.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Redd fixed to Glenn no longer exists that he's AI.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
That theory aside, Glenn was probably David's not anybody the
way is the CEO of the American Policy Roundtable. He's
the host of the Public Square. He's even playing hurt
with the viruses joining us. I think you would agree
with me because you know me, You Glenn, we were
all on this AI as it was coming and trying
to learn as much as we could, as fast as
we could. We could see some good things and then
(03:27):
we could see a lot of really uncertainties and dangers
on the horizon. So Angela from Chandler Arizona called in
last hour and she said, wait a minute. The guy,
the Paul Revere, that was telling us all about the
dangers of AI, is now embracing AI to educate our children.
And his first ever George AI is of course an
(03:50):
interview with George Washington. So let me ask you, David,
is this something we should be embracing, avoiding or waiting
and see?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Good morning, Michael.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
I think you're set up on The question from Australia
is very interesting and it leads us into the right
channel to talk about the bigger question that you're raising
regarding Glunbeck and Georgia AI. People will often say, you know, you, guys,
the technologies are neutral is how you use them, And
oftentimes that's true. People will say, well, money's neutral, it's
(04:23):
how you use it. There's a lot of things about
the technology. Algorithms make all the difference. Well, and that's
the point. So but when you think about what Australia
is now being forced to do, to protect their children.
You have to ask yourself this from a moral perspective.
If you were the person who invented Facebook or one
(04:43):
of the major social media platforms, and you saw the
devastation that it was happening in the lives of young people,
would you have the moral courage to say, I'm closing
my company and I'm eliminating this technology because the unintended
consequences are too grave in regards to what benefits we
may have.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
The answer to that is no.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
But when we watched Social Dilemma, the documentary which I
encourage everybody to watch on Netflix. It's now four years old,
but just as powerful as the year came out because
nothing has changed. Unfortunately, while they won't do that, they
will look in the camera and say, none of our
children are allowed to be on social media and we
haven't decided if it'll be sixteen or eighteen before they can.
They all said that, whether it was Google, Facebook.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
All of them.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
So the bigger question is, while we're running around like
shocked teenagers getting into the candy store that we're not
our kids getting into a candy store that we're not
supposed to be in, and the forbidden fruit reality of GM.
I wonder whether this is really going to end up
and isn't this cool? And isn't this neat? And not
thinking about logical consequences. This is why we're supposed to
(05:48):
have leaders in our culture and families are supposed to
lead for their own good and their own well being. Okay,
so we've got a problem. This is not a neutral technology.
That's the thing that we must understand. Because the technology
is predicated upon thievery. AI is predicated upon thievery. These
companies are stealing every word that's out there that they
(06:12):
did not write, assembling it.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
You please forgive me another breaking a commandment that they
did not live, that they did not experience, that they
did not discern, that was not revealed to them. It's
taking the words with no human life experience or context.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
That's what makes it different.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
And because that's an excellent amplification, and you're exactly right,
words matter. Now, there is one set of words that
is living and active, and that's the Bible. And it
makes that claim about itself. You can try it out
and live it for yourself to see whether it's true
or not. But that's the claim that it makes. There
(06:54):
is a reality that when Christmas happened, when God came
to earth and the person of Christ he came and
is called by the apostle John the Lagos. That's a
concept that was around for a long time before Jesus,
the idea that there is a communication from on high
that is significant, that is true truth, and that matters.
Words matter. So when you're say we're going to set
(07:17):
up a reality of a technology where we're just going
to scrape all the words into large language models, and
then we're going to teach those words how to a
software program, how to answer questions, there's no interpretive reality
what soever.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
One million of us could communicate with AI on the
exact same topic and get one million different answers.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
That's the difference.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Now, it's funny you bring up that other the topic
of the supernatural and divine. People will talk about Jesus's
claim to a fed five thousand with fish and bread,
or walk on water, or raise Lazarus from the dead.
You forget the three greatest supernatural moments in human history,
(08:05):
the conception of Christ and birth of Christ, the Holy
Spirit's arrival when John the Baptist baptizes him, and the Resurrection.
Those are three moments that are not just historic or
in a book, They are the most divine supernatural moments
in all of mankind and human history so well.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
And others.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
And you could add a fourth and that would be
the Crucifixion in essence the fulfillment of all ancient prophecies
regarding them aside in Christ, in that moment there. So yeah,
So again, I didn't want to try to make the
answer here to be theological, and I'm trying to elevate
the answer to is the concept of what are words?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Now?
Speaker 6 (08:44):
We can go Christian, we can go Jewish, we can
go Greek, we can go Roman, we can go Babylonian,
we can go Mesopotamium. We can go as far back
as you want and move as far forward as you want.
Words have always mattered in culture. That's the one point.
Words matter, and there is no universal interpreter of words that.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
We can build.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
All we're doing with AI is reconstructing the Tower of Babble.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Well there's two things too.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
One is I can use AI as a tool, and
I can get some pretty good accurate responses based on
how I use that tool.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I remember when pro.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Tools came out, that was the taste, Yeah, but I
mean what we would do with the editing, you know,
with a with a grease pencil and a razor blade.
Now we could do digitally, but you were only as
good as you learned how to use that.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
And so.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
This is your morning show with Michael del Chno.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
It was my Albama City.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
I think AI got a little nervous when you started
talking about it and started setting your feed.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Actually, technically, what just happened is impossible, David and I
have experienced this for fifteen years. The minute you get
onto something and I don't know if it's a hack,
I don't know if it's the enemy himself, but these
crazy things happen. I'm trying to but I will tell
you from and I won't bore you with details. What
just happened is impossible, and that's why I'm freaked out.
(10:13):
But anyway, we're back, all right. So where we were
talking about AI, words matter and where they come from.
The big picture is Glenn Beck, who was one of
the first to come out and speak of the dangers
of AI, is now embracing AI. So it's got people saying,
which is it bad or good? And he starts with
an interview with George Washington, our founding father.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
We'll get to that in a minute.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
And then you're talking about well, ultimately, with the algorithms,
it's mostly danger you know. But I would add to
that quantum computing, which is to follow. I mean, this
is really beta. We haven't even gotten to VHS and
CD and where it's really headed, and that's where it
gets increasingly dangerous.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I think, yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
And I think if you look at the first premise
on anything, when we say that things are neutral, therefore
it depends on how we use them or are they
really I don't think that AI passes the neutral test.
I really do not, because of the fact that it's
based upon thievery and control. Those are the fundamental realities.
The scrape of all the data is then implanted into
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a software program that then controls the reality from there,
and once people begin to trust that, that becomes very dangerous.
Now I'm not suggesting this as a TI rate against Gunbeck.
I think what he's doing is a fascinating experiment. And
I sure love the way that Glenbeck respects American history
and is investing in American history the way most of
us are not.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
So that's not the question here.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
If this doesn't work out, well, I'm sure Glunback will
pivot and move to the next place. There's no plot
here for George AI to take over the world. I
will tell you, though, after spending fifty years of my
life studying people in the context of original documents and
in the context of trying to get one hundred years
behind their eyes on how history really works, that even
(11:59):
just a few seconds that we've heard from the first
revealing of George AI responding are from someone that's studied
George Washington.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
It's laughable.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
It's just laughable, because if you don't understand the character
of the person, you can't ever answer the questions.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
So basically, he says, George, we have programmed a lot
of information and given you a lot of information on
what's going on in today's America based on your writings
and the writings of the rest of the founders. What
do you feel like is the biggest problem or where
we should start fixing? And then George Washington responds, well,
if I may speak plainly, my countryman, the danger and
(12:37):
then Glenn interrupts, may I stop you for a second.
Can you dumb it down just a little bit, just
giving it more and more definition. He goes, Okay, I
do have twenty nine points, and they're all reference to
exactly what we said in the past, just in today's language. Okay,
can you do it just in today's language. All right,
let me speak to Americans. Now, we went from country
(12:58):
Rundt to Americans. If I'm honest, America's biggest problem isn't
political or economic.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
It's all moral.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
You have drifted from the virtues that make liberty even
possible in the first place. Freedom to be free, you
have to be disciplined, You have to have faith, you
have to have character. And if you don't have any
of those things, laws, laws can't stop anything. And I
mean and I mean little government terms either weak or oppressive.
(13:26):
You have grown skeptical of the truth. You're reckless with debt.
You're comfortable blaming instead of building anything. And this time
we've understood the self governance begins with self control. Whatever
this thing is, it is right that you can't have
a republic without self governed individuals. It has to be
about not mob rule and cool kids or anarchy. It
(13:50):
has to be about moral, self governed people, living and
personal responsibility and a limited government protecting their property right.
I mean, the answers are all right. What makes it laughable?
I had to do that for them so they knew
what George said. No, I appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
Well, what makes it laughable is the idea of anyone
thinking that they're capable to put words in George Washington's mouth,
Because that's foolish. Now I care we whethery're putting words
in Harry Truman's mouth, or words in JFK's mouth, or
words in George Washington.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Trust me, that's coming sure.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
So what we've really done here is we've just decided
to build a software program loaded up with data, create
algorithms by which it functions and experiences and all the
different pieces of the construction of that whole process, the
construction of the whole process. And now we're testing the software,
like you know, here's the question, fill on the blanks. Well,
(14:49):
the blanks are being filled by the words that have
been placed in a technological.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
George Washington can't answer that question because George Washington is dead.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
He's in heavenit he doesn't live here anym more.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
You can go back at the way he answered questions
in his time and astutely try to translate that into
our time or contextually into our time, but you simply
can't do it, no matter how much data you have.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And we're down to twenty seconds because the enemy. You'll
memorize that for you.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
What you just said is the question of how do
you get to knowledge, not just words.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah, we're gonna have to come back tomorrow and do
part two of this, among other things.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Are you gonna be well enough?
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
All right? Sorry for the interruption. You know how Satan
is his morning show is my morning He likes to
shut it off. Job kidding you. We're five all right?
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Merry Christmas from all of us to all of you
thirty five minutes after the hour. If you're in the
Central time zone, you got about twenty five minutes to
be to work by eight o'clock. I just got this
from Chuck. Chuck writes, FYI, just as you and Dave
we're really getting into the meat of your discussion about AI,
the radio went dead.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
At least Darren Tulsa. It was everywhere.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I'm used to that, but I can tell you, unlike
when I'm at a radio station and I don't really
know what's going on, this is my studio. I know everything,
and we have redundancy, and what happened was impossible.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
So I try to think no longer. Can you say
it was impossible?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Well, I mean it's like, well, that is one heck
of a coincidence if you're just getting up. The FED
is expected to cut the interest right by a quarter
point today.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
The President is not ruling out Venezuela.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
And one student is dead another hurt after a shooting
at Kentucky State University. The shooter is in custody. Well,
you know I love Christmas music and you know I
love war. We get to do both this morning. It's
the fiftieth anniversary of the song Why.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Can't We Be Friends?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
But finally the studios have talked War into doing a
Christmas song.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Will debut it for you, but first I get the
unique thrilled to talk to the lead singer, Lonnie Jordan.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Hey, Hey, all right, listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna try
to be as fair as I can to Jerry, but
oh my gosh, it's Lonnie Jordan, It's War It's why
can't We Be Friends. I'm gonna try to be judicious
in this, But Lonnie, thank you for a lifetime of
(17:39):
music and one of my all time favorite songs.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Well thank you. You also have to thank Jerry because
he's the one who edit and recorded and pushed me
to the edge and all that stuff. So he's I
would say, partner in crime.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, And I don't know who wants to respond to this,
Lonnie or Jerry.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Probably this one would go to Lonnie.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
But I think it's one of the most interesting stories
in music, how the song came to be and the
and really it goes to the uniqueness of the music,
which I'm going to address. But the people that had
attracted and once they attracted all in one place, what
would happen, and it really birthed one of the most unique,
incredible songs and a song that's more relevant today. I
(18:23):
think would have never happened if people were not getting
along at your concerts.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Oh no, yeah, actually yeah. Actually it's interesting because in
Japan on a tour and we went out to get
some some sushi or kobe b or something, and we're
walking down the street and we you know, there's no
GPS's right, so we're you know, trying to find this
restaurant and ask people do you know where this is
or the street that we're looking for, And as we're walking,
(18:50):
people are walking to the other side of the street
because we look like some kind of a gang or something.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
You know.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
It just came out of a battlefield, so, you know.
And that's with the whole concept of hey, why can't
we be friends, Why can't we talk to each other
about us?
Speaker 3 (19:05):
You know.
Speaker 8 (19:05):
And so that same night, we're playing.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
In the Budicon and we're backstage and we're coming up with,
you know, this concept, and there's a problem. We're late
because something wrong with the sounds, so they're fixing it.
Were late going on and there and the audience starts
to get upset and some rival groups or something start
to argue, and there's the place a little bit crazy,
(19:28):
and you know, and Howard actually came out and said, hey, guys,
we're gonna be out in a Minute's just why can't
We be friends? Blah blah blah.
Speaker 8 (19:38):
And that's the origin of the song.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
And we would do and we basically wrote it in
addressing I'm backstage playing uh reggae groove, you know, and
the death and Howard started singing that. He just kept repeating,
why can't we be friends?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
That was basically it.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
And by the way, and we had just done the
why Can't We Be Friends? Album and we were going
back to finish a couple of songs, and.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
That was the last song we did for the album.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, oh man.
Speaker 8 (20:05):
It came back, came back.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
To the States, the mainland, and then went into the
studio and the finished yeah, finished it up from there.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Well, you know, it speaks to the uniqueness of the
war sound and the different people that it would attract.
I remember to this day the first time I heard
why can't We Be Friends? That's how amazing. The lyric
was amazing, the groove was the message. I mean, it
was just everything, and it was such a unique sound.
(20:33):
And it's the fiftieth anniversary. Boy, time flies, right, I
hope we've been having fun. Yeah, and it's a song
we need more than ever. But I mean, you know,
all the different verses and then sung by different people.
It was just absolute magic. And it's hard to believe
it's fifty years and now it's Christmas. Yes, it's Christmas.
Let's talk about that song too.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Which came out of the song Summer. Nobody's ever done
that before. We took one of our other songs, the Summer,
which was an on More Hero all over the world,
and the record company kept saying, you guys should do
a Christmas record, you should do a Christmas record, and
we agreed we shouldn't do but we couldn't come up
you know, we didn't kind of didn't want to do
the same old, same old. So we came up with
the concept of taking the summer track and summer idea
(21:17):
and relating it to Christmas. And it worked amazing.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
You remember remember the movie Love Actually where they featured
the You tell so many stories at once, but one
is taking a popular song and changing it to.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Make it Christmas. Uh that one was really bad. Yours
is really good.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
So hey Lonnie and or Jerry either, because Jerry is
the longtime manager and producer Lonnie one of the lead singers.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Where do you think that unique sound came from? What's
what's the magic that sets war apart?
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Well, if you remember Jimmy Hendricks saying are you experienced? Well,
I experience was from the streets, and uh we.
Speaker 8 (22:03):
You know, we bought different attitudes.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Genres of music, everything to the to the table together
and just mixed it up like a mixed salad bowl.
And without thinking. We didn't know what we were doing that.
To be honest with you, we didn't read music. We
didn't even know what the studio was, you.
Speaker 8 (22:23):
Know, a real studio put it that way.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
And uh so all those elements that we had lack of,
we just bought it to the table and just pretty
much made magic. It was really magic. A lot of
the music is jams, you know, we just jams and
ideas that they had musically. In fact, when when I
first met them, the one thing that I that stood
(22:46):
out when I listened to what they were doing when
they auditioned for me was painted black. They had a
Latin version do you d D D? Painted Black? That
was like it's nothing I'd ever heard part of it
or anything, And I went, wow, you've got more of
that stuff. I'd be really interested, you know. And eventually,
you know, and then we you know, jams in the
(23:07):
studio with Eric, and we did solo wine and you know,
and on and on and on on, and I've spent
much of my life, you know, editing this stuff so
we can put it out as records and singles. Because
some of the jams were like forty five minutes long,
and I would find a small part of the jam
and I say, b gee, that's really cool, you know, right,
(23:28):
and then boom, we'd go make a record, write a
song about it, and make the record. But they were
free to do whatever they wanted to do in the
studio because that's who that's Sue warriors. War was like
a free form, you know. That's why every song doesn't
sound like the last song. Every everyone's different, every jam
is different, and would you know, it's my job to
(23:49):
create music, you know, pop music out of it.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
What's interesting to me because we could talk about songs
that were very popular a long time ago and are
still played today. But a lot of this was very
reflective of the time, and maybe it says more about
how America hasn't changed much, we haven't grown much. But
I mean it's not only that. There's that the sound
has stood the test of time. The message has two,
(24:14):
don't you think, guys, Well for.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Sure, Yeah, we're all learning from each other in this world,
you know, more and more and which helps communication, you know,
and communication through music, which is therapy, especially ours, like
you were saying earlier.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
But I let me.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Hopefully I'm not changing the subject. But the more Jerry
and I do these interviews, the more I'm learning about
things that I can't remember that Jerry was bringing up
and I'm and it's helping me and the communications part
is even better. And that's basically how we've created a
(25:00):
lot of this music in the studio, after experiencing the streets,
you know, to come up with ideas and stuff like that,
you know, because well, I.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Didn't think about to help you, Lannie. I used to
have an analogy. You know.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
People would ask me about you know, radio and television
and stuff, and I would say, well, television, college kind
of produces TV.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
People life produces radio. People.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I think that's kind of what you're talking about. You
guys were you know, just from the neighborhood. You lived
life and then you took this gifting and collaborated it.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
But you made magic.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
I mean, I was trying to think, I guess, and
this may sound shallow. Why can't we be friends? This
is probably my favorite? But spill the wine low Rider
Cisco kid. I mean, did you have a favorite, either
of you?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
All of them over all, kids, right?
Speaker 5 (25:52):
I lead the next one, yeah, and the next one.
But you have to understand I play all of them
on state. Well, not all of them because we have
too many of them. But h I play all the
major hits on stage, and they're all my favorite, to
be honest with you, because I love watching the fans
sing it. They won't let me sing it. I'm trying
(26:13):
to sing the song for this sing and over me.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Yeah, No, I would, I would, and I would be
guilty of that, Lonnie. It would be that would be
torture for me to watch you and not sing along.
And by and by the way, Lonnie, we would do
it in your voice, you know, it be our voice.
We're visiting with Lonnie Jordan of the group War on
the fiftieth anniversary of Why Can't We Be Friends? And
(26:37):
Jerry Goldstein, the longtime producer and manager and finally a
Christmas song out of War.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Jerry Well, the record company all these years has been
trying to get us to do a Christmas record, and
we finally, you know, looked at each other one night
and said, let's you know, I got this idea. Let's
take the summer track and making Christmas, you know, and
we started writing the lyrics and it all came together,
(27:04):
brought it to the company. Everybody loved it, and we
put it out here we are. We just made a
video and now we have a lyric video.
Speaker 8 (27:11):
Too, so we're kind of did what.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
They asked us to do and we love it. So
hopefully you guys love it.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
You know, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
I know I'm gonna because I know who made it.
And here we go, folks, Finally a Christmas song from War,
a holiday gift from War and your morning show.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yes It's Christmas.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
I Love down with my friends alone, playing pool.
Speaker 9 (27:44):
Song, sting cheese, Christmas trees, sly Can standing.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
To call it squ.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
Yesus Christ.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
The Best Time, his soul, dreaming sand.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
For this wee.
Speaker 9 (28:44):
Lots of special goodies by say.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Christmas Morning.
Speaker 9 (28:55):
Magicis Christmas Presence.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I told you you're gonna love it. Well, you love summer,
of course you're gonna love. Yes, it's Christmas from San.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Diego, California. That is Lonnie George, lead singer of.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
War and the band War with their finally long awaited
Christmas song, It's Christmas. Yes, It's Christmas, seventy seven years old.
Tell me Lonnie still can't sing. What a thrill it
was to visit with them? You can down that lot
that song everywhere songs are downloaded and on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
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I thought what Glenn Beck did with George AI was awesome.
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It brought back memories of that movie War Games with
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Because those two sound an awful lot alike. Anyway, love
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When I was a teenager, he would talk about post
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The President is not ruling out a Venezuelan ground troop,
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(32:33):
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Speaker 3 (32:54):
Closing moments with Roy O'Neil, our National correspondent. A judge
is allowing the secret grand jury test on Jeffrey Epstein's
co conspirator Gallaine Maxwell. Here's another one of those where
rule of law takes a back seat to public curiosity.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Rory, just what will we find out and when will
we find it out? Yeah?
Speaker 10 (33:13):
Not a whole lot is essentially what we're going to
find out. And that's from the judge himself. And again
this relates specifically to the Gelane Maxwell grand jury transcripts. Look,
there's plenty of other stuff out there, more directly from
the grand jury activities related to Jeffrey Epstein, but this
is just the Maxwell stuff. And then the judge even
wrote like quote, they do not discuss or identify any
(33:34):
client of Epstein's or Maxwell's unquote, So if you're looking
for names, they're not in these documents, and nor should
they be. Right, Well, we knew that Maxwell. You never
know what you're going to find, right when some of
these grand juries go fishing. When we know that Maxwell
essentially was rounding up the young girls who would be abused.
He didn't know if she mentioned specifically for Ben in particular,
(33:58):
and that would that may have been included there. So
the judge in this case says no names to be found,
but he said that, you know, go ahead, release it,
but make sure any information that identifies the victims is concealed.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Roory O'Neil, great reporting as always, We'll talk again tomorrow.
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