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Speaker 3 (00:30):
Trump and the administration have until Friday to release the
so called Jeffrey Epstein files. Australia's Prime Minister says this
shooting at a Jewish event in Australia is an act
of pure evil. All remaining classes have been canceled at
Brown University for the remainder of the semester following this
weekend's deadly mass shooting and famed Hollywood director Rob Reiner
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and his wife Michelle found dead in their home and Brentwood,
Los Angeles, and all indications are the suspect is their
thirty two year od old troubled son Nick. Good morning
and welcome to eight Minutes after the Hour on this
Monday December, the fifteenth year of our Lord, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
That's a lot of violence.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
And I didn't even include the ambush of two US
soldiers as well as an interpreter in Syria, the President
promising retaliation. Just a very very violent and deadly weekend
in all different ways to tear our hearts apart. So
we're trying to avoid narratives and talking points and told
(01:30):
just soohs or gotcha's and just kind of take this
in and process it and resolve it. And so our
thoughts and prayers are with all the victims, family members
and friends. You may want to pray for Billy Crystal today,
who is completely torn apart that a few houses down
two of his friends were killed, let alone the tragedy
of it being a son that did it. There's just
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a lot and a lot to process. I also mentioned
in our conversation with John Decker, White House Correspondent, that
this is the week if anything and be thought of
and agreed upon and done. Concerning healthcare, I went on
a big ti rade that well, we got to first
look at the actuarial pool, and we got to also
look at why we get insurance and is it an entitlement,
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and why do we keep living like it is? We
have never passed government healthcare in this country, a single
payer system, why do we live like it? If young
people choose to not have insurance, they should rightfully get
the consequence for that. So it's a very complex issue,
and we wonder what can be done and in this
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political environment agreed upon and done. Obamacare you have to
start with admitting failed. I believe it failed on purpose
and was designed to fail on purpose, But it didn't
ensure everyone, and even the young people that you got
to finally insure themselves, it was only because it was free,
because you subsidized it. So I don't know what the
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bigger scandal is. How we have used taxpayers money from
taxpayers who probably prioritize insurance or get it through their work,
and their employees have to split it with them, and
we've been taking their money in addition to pay for
the subsidies for those who choose not to do it.
(03:17):
This picking and choosing of winners and losers is really
at the heart of this tangled mess. I want to
get one quote. Well, I guess we've got time to
maybe get to one for sure. Brian Wilmington, Delaware.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Hey Michael, good morning.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Regarding the issue with marriage and insurances, there's also not
much incentive for marriage when I can stay single, stay
with my love and have children, stay in love, and
exploit a tax bracket by being single as opposed to marriage.
I'm current, I'm presidently Mary, but several friends are not.
For that reason, they get a tax benefit, and that's
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not fair.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Well, the incentives are are supposed to support marriage. It
should be more tax beneficial to be married, because that
promotes responsibility and an umbrella of care. I can understand
if some people are on government programs or getting certain
grants or loans, why that may be beneficial for a season,
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But by and large, the government and again the problem
is the picking and choosing of winners and losers. For
the most part, marriage should give you more tax advantages,
but that's not what's at the root. There's a birthing
crisis that's going to bankrupt all of our entitlement programs
in our country.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Along with it.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
If there's a surge of people not having children and
not getting married, it breaks up the formula. It's a
really complex issue. Let's bring in Chris Walker. All things Republican.
I think, you know, like everything we talk about Chris
all the time. We got to be bigger than narratives.
(05:01):
We've got to be bigger than talking points. We also
got to be big enough to admit what has failed
and what we're doing isn't working. I'm not even sure
we're there yet, are we?
Speaker 6 (05:11):
No, we're not. And I mean, looking at looking at
it from a standpoint of you talk about insurance and incentives,
let's not forget that there are really smart people that
are giving people advice to say, don't even have insurance
because because hospitals and emergency rooms have to take patients
and you can take them cheaper than you can by
paying insurance. And so a lot of times you're going
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to get a bill from a hospital hold that is
actually cheaper than what the insured rate is because you're
not I mean just the whole system is completely disincentivized
to actually reward good behavior and you know, good choices.
And so from a standpoint of what's even being what's
even happening from like a realistical, real worldview, Obamacare didn't
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even fail from a standpoint of policy. It's failed from
a standpoint of like, what's actually happening, and how peoper
gaming the system, and so from every every aspect of it,
it's it's it's an abbe failance. The issue is, you know,
we don't have anything that's actually addressing how to lower cost,
and that's introducing a pre market system. You have insurance,
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you have pharma, you have doctors, you have hospitals, all
of which are incentivized to continue to pump up prices
with a you know, federal you know, pump of money
continuing to help springboard all four of those major issues
from those four major industries. And nothing is in there
that's actually driving costs down through competition and and you know,
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actual market economics. So you know, that's the way to
get through this is to actually start to know what
the price of going to the dentist, knowing what the
price of going to a doctor is and going from there. Instead,
we don't have healthcare, in fact, sick care.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Well, that's true.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
And I can't be the only one that said a
mother that needed an MRI and I was waiting on Medicare,
back and forth, back and forth, and I needed the
MRI asap. This is the kind of thing you don't
want to wait on that could be a cause of
immediate death. So I just went and got one, and
I was shocked to find out that what I paid
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out of pocket with no insurance ended up cheaper than
what my portion would have been with insurance. Wouldn't Medicare
got around and finishing the undergo. So in other words,
you can get overwhelmed. And overwhelmed usually means freeze and
status quo continues. But there are some crises brewing. One
is the marriage gap that we see in America, the
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birthing crisis that we see in America, and jobs and
loss of jobs, or you know this gig culture that
we have where you do two or three jobs but
none of them pay half of your insurance and your
benefits or more than half. And as we get away,
if you had every that's why when the lockdown happened,
it was a problem. But if you didn't have businesses,
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you know, picking up some of this health insurance cost,
well we could never keep it standing. Well that's slowly
going in that direction. The birthing crisis is going in
that direction. This, this is status quo has to be
off the table because this whole thing's going to crumble
in five to six years.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Well, I would add to that a couple of pieces.
One a piece of Obamacare is allowing kids to stay
on their parents' health insurance for a lot longer than
they had. You know, people won't talk about that enough,
but I mean to combine that with with online culture
and social media and gaining and everything else, and you
have incentivized extended adolescents. And so by the time these
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these kids in their twenties waked up and realized that
they're in the mid thirties, half these women are going
to have really difficult times for pregnancy and other things
because they've they've squandered a lot of their productive, youthful
era for you know, drinking and partying. And fine, look
I did that too. Like I'm not suggesting I'm not
approved here on this, but like there needs to be
a goal here outside of you know, self self fulfillment daily.
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And from that perspective, I think along there was a
big part of that's like all just beyond my parents
health care. It's just it's just an idea of incentivized adolescens.
And I think we have a big tech problem in
this country that goes beyond the digital economy. It goes
from digital consumption where everyone is on their iPad all
day and everyone has a you know, kind of an
addiction to some type of technical device, which is prohiboting
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the ability for them to find it, find a make
a family, and and and be part of the community,
becoming an individualized consumer rather than a you know, a
community based provider and producer. And that's an even bigger
cultural problem than even the health insurance thing we're seeing.
We have a we have a strong, solid digital issue
here that's not being addressed, and right south of them
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are making all the decisions in the White House right now,
and it's scary.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Dop consultant and analyst Chris Walker joining us as he
does every Monday, We're talking about this being the week
for everyone to put their political divisions aside and try
to solve an issue. I think step one is admitting
that Obamacare is a failure. You need both sides to
admit the obvious. That's why the premiums are unaffordable. They
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didn't ensure everyone. Premiums were driven up. It did not
improve quality of care. And all they've done is created
a game which they put on steroids. During the Biden
administration in COVID of subsidizing these premiums, and you can't
do that forever. It was a temporary subsidy. And now
that you take the subsidy away, you're just now seeing
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the failure of Obamacare. So you got to start by
admitting that. But I can't be the only one who
When I married my wife and I was thrilled to
and happy to my father in law, who I love
and miss, it was hilarious.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
He couldn't hand everything off to me quicker.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I mean, handed me over the insurance, handed me over
health insurance, car insurance, you know that kind of a thing.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
But at some point this is not a patch fix.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I think we've got to ideologically go back to the beginning.
What is the role of government, What is the role
of the self governed? What should be individual's responsibility to
prepare for things that could happen that they can't afford
in a way that they can afford and prioritize. And
if they don't do it, they don't get care and
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they die in an alley. But there's got to be consequence,
because you can't cover both those conversations. I don't think
anybody's got the political courage to have, but anything. If
you don't have them, you won't do anything but patchwork.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Well, and I would look at this and let me
put it on political hat for a second. I think
we're talking very existential, but let me put on political
hat for a second. What we have a real issue
with right now, at least on the conservative side is
look at the event from the lections this past year
and everything in Tennessee and our home state, what happened
with Matt Manets's right. The Democrats are putting up women
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candidates as kind of a precursor over half of the
populaps who are really upset with the Trump administration and
the general direction of the country. Democrats are going to
put that. But there is no male leadership right now
in any way that people. And again this goes to
the family, that goes to kind of creating families from
like twenties and thirties. There are no male cultural leaders
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right now for these people look up to, even for
Republicans conservatives to have like this is the vision for
where we need to go. We have a man leadership
vacuum right now that needs to be a drect.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I think I think jd Vance has addressed this and
been ridiculed for it. I know Charlie Kirk addressed this,
he was ridiculed for it. I know Marco Rubio's addressed it.
He's been ridiculed for it. Look, the American people love
to reject and then forget what they reject when the
consequence arrives. I'm just saying that it's not enough. I
don't mean to be essential, but the narrative is Obamacare failed.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Okay, now what and there.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Is they can't afford these premiums.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
We can't allow them to go up. Okay, now what?
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Well, and look what happened. You have the Republican Party
caving in less than a month from the shutdown on
it and doing the doing the extension of it. Like
that's part of the problem. You know, there there is
a we haven't There is an issue here where people
are unwilling to step up. And I think Jad obviously
yeah okay, and Marco Riuvio and others can are saying that,
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but like, when are the policy positions where we're going
to actually start addressing it? And I think that's something
that you know, Republicans need to start stepping up to
the plate on and saying, okay, we have solutions to this.
Pre market principles work, hard work works. You know, I'm
sympathetic to the presence point on the affordability affordability issue
a little bit. It is a talking point, but it
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is a real problem. And you know, we know with
conservatives how to address the affordability crisis. It's hard work.
It's you know, making sacrifices, it's you know, living further
away to be a buy a house, and other things
like that. All of that's gone out the window for
the sake of trying to kind of protect some adolescent
the people who live in New York. And that's just
not that's not the right message for how we actually
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get through this crisis.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
What I always say, going into the new year, the
ball will drop, it will light up a new year.
But if we live and think and do in twenty sixteen,
twenty twenty six what we lived and thought and did
in twenty twenty five, happy new year.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
I suspect the same type of new year.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
We've got to look at this differently, and both parties
have to put narratives and talking points aside, and there
does seem to be a feeling of insanity to continue
to rely on the people that cause the problem, both
parties to solve it, especially with the American people in
between playing political games at a time of a real
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crisis where we need to have real solutions and maybe
have to make real sacrifices as oh, hey this, I
think this does it for us. Merry Christmas, my dear friend.
Happy New Year to you and yours, and we look
forward to talking in the new year. Thank you for everything, Chris,
your family, all things Republican, Chris Walker. I don't think
conditions were warned between now and the end of the week,
(15:10):
although we do have one week to get the Epstein
files out, one week to get any legislation done on healthcare. Meanwhile,
the rest is all death and shooting. We'll get to
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Speaker 3 (16:37):
Famed Hollywood director Rob Reiner his wife Michelle are dead,
killed in their Brentwood, Los Angeles home and the apparent
suspect is their troubled thirty two year old son, Nicholas.
That is a very difficult story to process this morning,
all remaining classes have been canceled at Brown University after
a shooting where two were dead nine wounded. The suspect
is at large and the manhunt continues. The person suspect
(17:00):
overnight was released. Meanwhile, the ambush in Syria with two
American soldiers killed plus an interpreter.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
The President.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Saying he will respond to this isis appears to be
the perpetrator, and it is the final week for the
White House and the government to release the Epstein files
and for the Congress to find a solution for healthcare.
That's just some of what we're chewing on on this Monday,
December fifteenth, twenty twenty five.
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Thirty six minutes after the hour in the Central time zone,
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eight o'clock and thanks to bringing us along, kind of
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got a side talking point conversation going on about healthcare. Really,
what we thought we were dealing with today and I
think we're dealing with today is an awful lot of
death and violence over the weekend, which is almost overwhelming
to process on a Monday morning. In fact, I think
as humans we have capacity issues. I don't think we
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have the human capacity to survive social media. That's just
too many people with parents dying, too many people with
dogs dying.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
It's just it's overwhelm.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
The Bible pretty much addresses our normal life circumstances and
our immediate family and immediate neighbors and surroundings is going
to be more than we can handle.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
We got to give that to God.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
But when we feel like, you know, we're taking all
this in, it's beyond what we're capable of. And nobody
on everybody on radio milks it. Nobody tells you, hey, look,
you can't sit here all day thinking about Rob Ryan
and his wife being stabbed to death or having their
throat slit by their own son. That's just beyond what
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you can process. But what you can do is say,
God is everywhere. God is real, He is living. Go
bring peace that passes all understanding. Bottle tears time, release
this pain to all their family and loved ones, and
then we would do the same at Brown University. We
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would do the same in Syria for the two soldiers
and the interpreter's family, and the same in Australia for
sixteen dead, and pray for the healing of the remaining
that are recuperating. And there is say time to understand
the complexities of these You're gonna hear a lot of
(20:05):
talk radio and you're gonna watch a lot of talk
television today, and it's gonna say, look at Australia with
all their stiff gun laws, how that worked? For you,
and there will be something that will tell you. These
father and son shooters, they're evil. This is Islam. They
must be stopped, You must understand them. But you got
to look at these in totality. There's a brave Muslim
(20:26):
who didn't run and seek cover. He snuck up from
behind and attacked one of the shooters and paid a
price for it.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
And he was Muslim.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
You got a father and son teaming up to do
mass murder. You got a son killing his mother and father.
This is just more than we can process. And what
I'm saying is narratives and talking points. They're not nearly
as important as reality and truth and what we're capable
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of as human beings and what God's capable of as God.
And you got to let go of the stuff, for
it'll overwhelm you. But yeah, this is the time of
the year we sing the song Lead the bps on
Earth and let it be get. How many times have
we talked about comparing twenty twenty five to nineteen sixty eight,
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And in nineteen sixty eight what happened. Well, RFK was killed,
MLK was killed and led a multiple race presidential race
that was finally won by Richard Nixon, who talked to
the sensible center and ignored the extreme left and right,
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and three men orbited the moon and looked back and
saw the Earth for the first time. And on Christmas
Eve read the Genesis creation story from lunar orbit. As
one woman telegraphed you saved nineteen sixty eight, and I
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said this six months ago, and it's about two weeks
from being true. In this weekend, certainly felt like it
was true. What saves twenty twenty five because if nothing
does and if nothing changes, I know twenty six is
going to be just like twenty five, only worse. Now
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out of these stories, first and foremost, what we know
is two people were found dead in Brentwood, Los Angeles.
Didn't take long to figure out that was the address
of Rob Reiner. Then the releasing of the ages seventy
eight and sixty eight. Then it was obvious to everyone
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this is Rob Reiner and his wife Michelle dead in
their home and the LA burglary and homicide investigators are
on the scene. And then the announcement of no suspect
being looked for in one person of interested in custody,
And then I think it was people magazine that was
(23:18):
the first to release. It appears as though their very
own son, thirty two year old Nick, killed his mother
and father, Rob Reiner and Michelle Reiner. Then we got
to talk about all the movies. And I think the
interesting part of it is while Rob Reiner was in
real life a lot more like Meathead, his famous character
(23:43):
on all in the family in terms of being far
left and vocal, and if you were far right or center,
I'm sure he stepped on your toes. As I have said,
I have nothing worldview or politically in common with Rob Reiner,
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and I don't know that he was any more vocal
from his worldview than I am from mine. But I'm
not gonna make him more in death than he was
in life. I didn't have a lot. I agreed with
him on some of the things he said I found
really shallow and offensive. It doesn't mean he deserved to
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be betrayed by his own son and killed in such
a violent way in his own home. On a Sunday afternoon,
one caller called up and said, oh, Karma is a
you know what. And I'm like, well, look, Carl Reiner,
his father, that looks like a guy that would have been.
I mean him and mel Brooks comedic treasures, but human treasures.
(24:48):
I would look at you and say, I think Carl
Reiner was probably a great dad. I'd look at Rob
Reiner and I could say I bet he was difficult.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
But that doesn't excuse.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
The Son's got to own his drugg One hundred million
dollars can't stop the kinds of troubles that life can
bring through bad choices, and you'll have to own this
murder like he refused to own his addiction. That's just
an example of how you go. You avoid the narratives,
talking points and positions and judgments and just have human compassion.
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A terrible way to die and no worse person to
have do it. That doesn't draw you to your knees
to pray for them. I'm encouraged you to do it,
just to let go because it'll overwhelm you. At Brown University,
there there was a person of interest held overnight but
(25:44):
then released, and so the suspect is at large could
strike again, no wonder All remaining classes have been canceled
at Brown University. We have no idea who the suspect is.
We've got one image of them walking down the street
not very good and there weren't any other videos in
and around that university. We talked earlier about look at
(26:06):
the scrutiny with Charlie Kirk and conspiracy theories. Do we
just have three four really tragic events this weekend and
do we have four big ongoing circuses to come?
Speaker 4 (26:22):
I hope not. So.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
We pray for the families of the victims and those
that were hurt. We pray for law enforcement to find
this person and secure this area. The world wants to
move on and talk about guns or knives, let them.
But if you just play that game, you're going to
walk with this human capacity issue breached and it's going
to overwhelm you. Now, Australia seems to be what has
(26:53):
gotten people most angry and some of the things that
the Prime Minister has said or refused to say. What
we pointed out was it appears obviously the target and
motive was anti Semitism. It appears obvious to be a
terrorist shooting, but it was also a Muslim who risked
(27:16):
his life to take down one of the shooters. Physically,
no weapons, he could have run hid. His wife said,
he just couldn't stand there and watch people being killed,
so he risked his own life. Now, the smart way
to look at this is there is an Islamist element here,
and because there were three contradictory lives of Muhammad, you
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have three different types of Muslims today. Some are peace
loving like his early teachings. That's the kind that would
hate seeing innocent people being killed and would stop it.
There are political Islamists who want to terrorize you because
they don't want you to have a choice. You must convert,
pay the tax, or die. So they populate, they infiltrate,
(28:04):
they agitate, and then they wage war, and then there's
a jihadist who will kill you immediately. And if they
die in the process, that's the only promise of eternal
life they have. Now, our problem moving forward is we
don't know which of the three they are until it's
too late.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
And in this particular case, you have both a father
and son. Can you imagine doing such a thing together
with your son.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Exercising either extreme political Islam or jihadism, and one being
stopped by a courageous first type of Muslim. There's a
lot to process now, I know, in our culture and
in our society, and driven by social media, in twenty
four hour news cycles. Everybody grabs a firm immediate position,
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but it doesn't change anything. It doesn't stop the next thing.
So all of this is relevant, reality, truth, resolve. That's
the way to move forward, not narrative in talking point. Certainly,
timing is everything now on the ISIS attack. That was
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classic Donald Trump in the first term, and everybody forgets
what the Obama administration wasn't doing to target and destroy.
You don't defeat enemies with rhetoric and appeasement or political correctness.
You identify them and you defeat them. And Donald Trump
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did and as often as the case with Islam, just
another head gross well, it appears first and foremost. I mean,
we'll talk to Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano about this, but
apparently the head is growing back of ISIS itself. ISIS
seems to be responsible for the death of two American
soldiers and one interpreter, and the president is promising retaliation.
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There's two years, right, The first half of twenty twenty
five was all about ending wars and peace and trying
to achieve peace, and then it's the second half of
twenty twenty five or none of it sticks and whether
it's Venezuela or now in Syria with isis perhaps more
war brewing which to end full circle, because I can
(30:33):
tell by the way Jeffrey's staring at me, I'm out
of time. In addition to praying for all these victims,
family members and friends and loved ones and handing all
this over to God, I am reminded of those three
astronauts orbiting the Earth. I'm still waiting for a political
(30:54):
leader to talk to the sensible center, and I'm still
waiting for someone to save twenty five five.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
It's your morning show with Michael del Journo.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
There was a lot of violence this weekend. There's a
lot to sort through. We'll go by the latest. When
you went into sleep, you may or may not have
known that even anyone was found dead in Brentwood, Los Angeles,
let alone. It turned out to be famed Hollywood director
Rob Reiner and his wife Michelle let Alone, who was
believed to be the suspect. Roy O'Neal is joining us.
(31:26):
Our national correspondent Rory. What's the very latest.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
Well, it looks like according to People magazine, and the
investigation is focused on the yinders, thirty two year old son, Nick,
who has a history of a drug addiction, homelessness, even
and that seems to be where the investigation is focused.
We got a brief press conference from LAPD late last night.
They were still trying to get a surge warrant in
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order to enter the property because for Judah's standing rules
and things like that. But yeah, they were still saying
that this was going to be They were still the
very preliminary part of the investigation. But at the same
time we're saying they really weren't looking for any suspect
as the attention falls to the couple's son.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Yeah, what we knew first was, Okay, two people were
found dead. Then we knew pretty quickly at the address
of Rob Reiner. Then the police wouldn't identify the victims
but said it was a seventy eight year old male
and a sixty eight year old female. Then I think
we all knew it was Rob Reiner's seventy eight years
old as wife Michelle sixty eight years old. And I
think the key to what you were just talking about
(32:30):
was Firstly, first the burglary and homicide divisions were there
on the scene. So my first thought was that somebody
break in and kill him. But then when they say
there are no they're not looking for any suspects, that's
usually the queue that they know who it is, and
it's usually often always family.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
Exactly and whether or not it's someone who suddenly regrets
what happened, or typically they stay at the scene and
there's enough evidence there to link them to the scene
as well. So that seems to be how the investigation
is moving forward. Again, haven't alerted the community that someone
else may be out there or given another name of
someone else.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
I shared a story here in Franklin, Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
It was a terrible, terrible story about a son who
had a very very unique disorder and a mother that
just couldn't live with watching her son suffer anymore. And
so what you thought was, well, that's weird, we don't
have murders here. And then when they said that there
was the community was safe and there are no suspects
being sought, well then you kind of can put two
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and two together. And that's what this felt like, just
a tragic story, and I feel like we need to
do this. But whether you agreed or disagreed with Rob
Reiner's political worldview, and I disagreed his movies have touched
your life and they're cherished ones. I mean some of
my all time favorites. Harry met Sally a few good men.
(33:52):
We talked about misery. American President one of my all
time favorites. He was a remarkable storyteller and director and
burst out of the scene being the son of Karl
Reiner and his meat head on all in the family.
All right, what do we know about the ambush in Syria?
Because the President is obviously coming to the realization isis
is not decapitated, it's regrown ahead and it just attacked
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two of his soldiers.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
Right and clearly sending out the message that the US
is prepared to respond with overwhelming force and strength. And look,
we're trying to get this budding relationship off the ground
with Syria and its new president. He invited him to
the White House. You know, we're trying to stabilize things
a little bit. So for this kind of action to
happen sets that process back significantly. And again, you've said
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it so many times before, this president abhors this kind
of violence, but is ready to stand up and defend
America as necessary.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Well, there'll be a targeted struck again, we were hoping
this the last half of this year would be all
about peace. It's getting about further war now in Syria.
You no progress with Russia and Ukraine, and an escalation
with Venezuela.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
This is all very troubling.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I think the obvious the motive is clear father and
son killers in Sydney, mode of clear anti semitism. And
then one brave, courageous Muslim who didn't go hide or run.
He risked his life to take down one of the
gunmen running to the danger.
Speaker 7 (35:23):
Forty three years old, suffered a couple of gunshot wounds,
but Ahmed al Ahmed is recovering in the hospital now
and as you said, the world calling him a hero.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
After we watch that video a right twenty seconds, we
have no motive and no suspect in the brown shooting.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Right No, And again a setback with the announcement last
night that the person of interest has now been released,
they still don't have any video from inside the building
that's going to do them any good at all. They're
urging the public to say, look, if you got a
dash cam, a doorcam or whatever cam, check it out.
You might have captured the video of this suspect who
killed two and wounded nine.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
More.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Pretty busy news day. Lucky to have you to go
through it with me. Thank you Roy for great reporting.
We'll see you on the morning at five o'clock.
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Trump and the administration have until Friday to release the
so called Jeffrey Epstein files. Australia's Prime Minister says this
shooting at a Jewish event in Australia is an act
of pure evil. All remaining classes have been canceled at
Brown University for the remainder of the semester following this
weekend's deadly mass shooting and famed Hollywood director Rob Reiner
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and his wife Michelle found dead in their home and Brentwood,
Los Angeles, and all indications are the suspect is their
thirty two year od old troubled son Nick. Good morning
and welcome to eight Minutes after the Hour on this
Monday December, the fifteenth year of our Lord, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
That's a lot of violence.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
And I didn't even include the ambush of two US
soldiers as well as an interpreter in Syria, the President
promising retaliation. Just a very very violent and deadly weekend
in all different ways to tear our hearts apart. So
we're trying to avoid narratives and talking points and told
(01:30):
just soohs or gotcha's and just kind of take this
in and process it and resolve it. And so our
thoughts and prayers are with all the victims, family members
and friends. You may want to pray for Billy Crystal today,
who is completely torn apart that a few houses down
two of his friends were killed, let alone the tragedy
of it being a son that did it. There's just
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a lot and a lot to process. I also mentioned
in our conversation with John Decker, White House Correspondent, that
this is the week if anything and be thought of
and agreed upon and done. Concerning healthcare, I went on
a big ti rade that well, we got to first
look at the actuarial pool, and we got to also
look at why we get insurance and is it an entitlement,
(02:11):
and why do we keep living like it is? We
have never passed government healthcare in this country, a single
payer system, why do we live like it? If young
people choose to not have insurance, they should rightfully get
the consequence for that. So it's a very complex issue,
and we wonder what can be done and in this
(02:33):
political environment agreed upon and done. Obamacare you have to
start with admitting failed. I believe it failed on purpose
and was designed to fail on purpose, But it didn't
ensure everyone, and even the young people that you got
to finally insure themselves, it was only because it was free,
because you subsidized it. So I don't know what the
(02:55):
bigger scandal is. How we have used taxpayers money from
taxpayers who probably prioritize insurance or get it through their work,
and their employees have to split it with them, and
we've been taking their money in addition to pay for
the subsidies for those who choose not to do it.
(03:17):
This picking and choosing of winners and losers is really
at the heart of this tangled mess. I want to
get one quote. Well, I guess we've got time to
maybe get to one for sure. Brian Wilmington, Delaware.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Hey Michael, good morning.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Regarding the issue with marriage and insurances, there's also not
much incentive for marriage when I can stay single, stay
with my love and have children, stay in love, and
exploit a tax bracket by being single as opposed to marriage.
I'm current, I'm presidently Mary, but several friends are not.
For that reason, they get a tax benefit, and that's
(03:54):
not fair.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Well, the incentives are are supposed to support marriage. It
should be more tax beneficial to be married, because that
promotes responsibility and an umbrella of care. I can understand
if some people are on government programs or getting certain
grants or loans, why that may be beneficial for a season,
(04:20):
But by and large, the government and again the problem
is the picking and choosing of winners and losers. For
the most part, marriage should give you more tax advantages,
but that's not what's at the root. There's a birthing
crisis that's going to bankrupt all of our entitlement programs
in our country.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Along with it.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
If there's a surge of people not having children and
not getting married, it breaks up the formula. It's a
really complex issue. Let's bring in Chris Walker. All things Republican.
I think, you know, like everything we talk about Chris
all the time. We got to be bigger than narratives.
(05:01):
We've got to be bigger than talking points. We also
got to be big enough to admit what has failed
and what we're doing isn't working. I'm not even sure
we're there yet, are we?
Speaker 6 (05:11):
No, we're not. And I mean, looking at looking at
it from a standpoint of you talk about insurance and incentives,
let's not forget that there are really smart people that
are giving people advice to say, don't even have insurance
because because hospitals and emergency rooms have to take patients
and you can take them cheaper than you can by
paying insurance. And so a lot of times you're going
(05:31):
to get a bill from a hospital hold that is
actually cheaper than what the insured rate is because you're
not I mean just the whole system is completely disincentivized
to actually reward good behavior and you know, good choices.
And so from a standpoint of what's even being what's
even happening from like a realistical, real worldview, Obamacare didn't
(05:54):
even fail from a standpoint of policy. It's failed from
a standpoint of like, what's actually happening, and how peoper
gaming the system, and so from every every aspect of it,
it's it's it's an abbe failance. The issue is, you know,
we don't have anything that's actually addressing how to lower cost,
and that's introducing a pre market system. You have insurance,
(06:14):
you have pharma, you have doctors, you have hospitals, all
of which are incentivized to continue to pump up prices
with a you know, federal you know, pump of money
continuing to help springboard all four of those major issues
from those four major industries. And nothing is in there
that's actually driving costs down through competition and and you know,
(06:35):
actual market economics. So you know, that's the way to
get through this is to actually start to know what
the price of going to the dentist, knowing what the
price of going to a doctor is and going from there. Instead,
we don't have healthcare, in fact, sick care.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Well, that's true.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
And I can't be the only one that said a
mother that needed an MRI and I was waiting on Medicare,
back and forth, back and forth, and I needed the
MRI asap. This is the kind of thing you don't
want to wait on that could be a cause of
immediate death. So I just went and got one, and
I was shocked to find out that what I paid
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out of pocket with no insurance ended up cheaper than
what my portion would have been with insurance. Wouldn't Medicare
got around and finishing the undergo. So in other words,
you can get overwhelmed. And overwhelmed usually means freeze and
status quo continues. But there are some crises brewing. One
is the marriage gap that we see in America, the
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birthing crisis that we see in America, and jobs and
loss of jobs, or you know this gig culture that
we have where you do two or three jobs but
none of them pay half of your insurance and your
benefits or more than half. And as we get away,
if you had every that's why when the lockdown happened,
it was a problem. But if you didn't have businesses,
(07:58):
you know, picking up some of this health insurance cost,
well we could never keep it standing. Well that's slowly
going in that direction. The birthing crisis is going in
that direction. This, this is status quo has to be
off the table because this whole thing's going to crumble
in five to six years.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Well, I would add to that a couple of pieces.
One a piece of Obamacare is allowing kids to stay
on their parents' health insurance for a lot longer than
they had. You know, people won't talk about that enough,
but I mean to combine that with with online culture
and social media and gaining and everything else, and you
have incentivized extended adolescents. And so by the time these
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these kids in their twenties waked up and realized that
they're in the mid thirties, half these women are going
to have really difficult times for pregnancy and other things
because they've they've squandered a lot of their productive, youthful
era for you know, drinking and partying. And fine, look
I did that too. Like I'm not suggesting I'm not
approved here on this, but like there needs to be
a goal here outside of you know, self self fulfillment daily.
(09:07):
And from that perspective, I think along there was a
big part of that's like all just beyond my parents
health care. It's just it's just an idea of incentivized adolescens.
And I think we have a big tech problem in
this country that goes beyond the digital economy. It goes
from digital consumption where everyone is on their iPad all
day and everyone has a you know, kind of an
addiction to some type of technical device, which is prohiboting
(09:31):
the ability for them to find it, find a make
a family, and and and be part of the community,
becoming an individualized consumer rather than a you know, a
community based provider and producer. And that's an even bigger
cultural problem than even the health insurance thing we're seeing.
We have a we have a strong, solid digital issue
here that's not being addressed, and right south of them
(09:53):
are making all the decisions in the White House right now,
and it's scary.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Dop consultant and analyst Chris Walker joining us as he
does every Monday, We're talking about this being the week
for everyone to put their political divisions aside and try
to solve an issue. I think step one is admitting
that Obamacare is a failure. You need both sides to
admit the obvious. That's why the premiums are unaffordable. They
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didn't ensure everyone. Premiums were driven up. It did not
improve quality of care. And all they've done is created
a game which they put on steroids. During the Biden
administration in COVID of subsidizing these premiums, and you can't
do that forever. It was a temporary subsidy. And now
that you take the subsidy away, you're just now seeing
(10:37):
the failure of Obamacare. So you got to start by
admitting that. But I can't be the only one who
When I married my wife and I was thrilled to
and happy to my father in law, who I love
and miss, it was hilarious.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
He couldn't hand everything off to me quicker.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I mean, handed me over the insurance, handed me over
health insurance, car insurance, you know that kind of a thing.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
But at some point this is not a patch fix.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I think we've got to ideologically go back to the beginning.
What is the role of government, What is the role
of the self governed? What should be individual's responsibility to
prepare for things that could happen that they can't afford
in a way that they can afford and prioritize. And
if they don't do it, they don't get care and
(11:26):
they die in an alley. But there's got to be consequence,
because you can't cover both those conversations. I don't think
anybody's got the political courage to have, but anything. If
you don't have them, you won't do anything but patchwork.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Well, and I would look at this and let me
put it on political hat for a second. I think
we're talking very existential, but let me put on political
hat for a second. What we have a real issue
with right now, at least on the conservative side is
look at the event from the lections this past year
and everything in Tennessee and our home state, what happened
with Matt Manets's right. The Democrats are putting up women
(12:01):
candidates as kind of a precursor over half of the
populaps who are really upset with the Trump administration and
the general direction of the country. Democrats are going to
put that. But there is no male leadership right now
in any way that people. And again this goes to
the family, that goes to kind of creating families from
like twenties and thirties. There are no male cultural leaders
(12:23):
right now for these people look up to, even for
Republicans conservatives to have like this is the vision for
where we need to go. We have a man leadership
vacuum right now that needs to be a drect.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I think I think jd Vance has addressed this and
been ridiculed for it. I know Charlie Kirk addressed this,
he was ridiculed for it. I know Marco Rubio's addressed it.
He's been ridiculed for it. Look, the American people love
to reject and then forget what they reject when the
consequence arrives. I'm just saying that it's not enough. I
don't mean to be essential, but the narrative is Obamacare failed.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Okay, now what and there.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Is they can't afford these premiums.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
We can't allow them to go up. Okay, now what?
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Well, and look what happened. You have the Republican Party
caving in less than a month from the shutdown on
it and doing the doing the extension of it. Like
that's part of the problem. You know, there there is
a we haven't There is an issue here where people
are unwilling to step up. And I think Jad obviously
yeah okay, and Marco Riuvio and others can are saying that,
(13:28):
but like, when are the policy positions where we're going
to actually start addressing it? And I think that's something
that you know, Republicans need to start stepping up to
the plate on and saying, okay, we have solutions to this.
Pre market principles work, hard work works. You know, I'm
sympathetic to the presence point on the affordability affordability issue
a little bit. It is a talking point, but it
(13:49):
is a real problem. And you know, we know with
conservatives how to address the affordability crisis. It's hard work.
It's you know, making sacrifices, it's you know, living further
away to be a buy a house, and other things
like that. All of that's gone out the window for
the sake of trying to kind of protect some adolescent
the people who live in New York. And that's just
not that's not the right message for how we actually
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get through this crisis.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
What I always say, going into the new year, the
ball will drop, it will light up a new year.
But if we live and think and do in twenty sixteen,
twenty twenty six what we lived and thought and did
in twenty twenty five, happy new year.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
I suspect the same type of new year.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
We've got to look at this differently, and both parties
have to put narratives and talking points aside, and there
does seem to be a feeling of insanity to continue
to rely on the people that cause the problem, both
parties to solve it, especially with the American people in
between playing political games at a time of a real
(14:50):
crisis where we need to have real solutions and maybe
have to make real sacrifices as oh, hey this, I
think this does it for us. Merry Christmas, my dear friend.
Happy New Year to you and yours, and we look
forward to talking in the new year. Thank you for everything, Chris,
your family, all things Republican, Chris Walker. I don't think
conditions were warned between now and the end of the week,
(15:10):
although we do have one week to get the Epstein
files out, one week to get any legislation done on healthcare. Meanwhile,
the rest is all death and shooting. We'll get to
that in a moment with your top five stories.
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Sorry.
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This is your Morning Show with Michael del Chrono.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Famed Hollywood director Rob Reiner his wife Michelle are dead,
killed in their Brentwood, Los Angeles home and the apparent
suspect is their troubled thirty two year old son, Nicholas.
That is a very difficult story to process this morning,
all remaining classes have been canceled at Brown University after
a shooting where two were dead nine wounded. The suspect
is at large and the manhunt continues. The person suspect
(17:00):
overnight was released. Meanwhile, the ambush in Syria with two
American soldiers killed plus an interpreter.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
The President.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Saying he will respond to this isis appears to be
the perpetrator, and it is the final week for the
White House and the government to release the Epstein files
and for the Congress to find a solution for healthcare.
That's just some of what we're chewing on on this Monday,
December fifteenth, twenty twenty five.
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got a side talking point conversation going on about healthcare. Really,
what we thought we were dealing with today and I
think we're dealing with today is an awful lot of
death and violence over the weekend, which is almost overwhelming
to process on a Monday morning. In fact, I think
as humans we have capacity issues. I don't think we
(18:41):
have the human capacity to survive social media. That's just
too many people with parents dying, too many people with
dogs dying.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
It's just it's overwhelm.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
The Bible pretty much addresses our normal life circumstances and
our immediate family and immediate neighbors and surroundings is going
to be more than we can handle.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
We got to give that to God.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
But when we feel like, you know, we're taking all
this in, it's beyond what we're capable of. And nobody
on everybody on radio milks it. Nobody tells you, hey, look,
you can't sit here all day thinking about Rob Ryan
and his wife being stabbed to death or having their
throat slit by their own son. That's just beyond what
(19:25):
you can process. But what you can do is say,
God is everywhere. God is real, He is living. Go
bring peace that passes all understanding. Bottle tears time, release
this pain to all their family and loved ones, and
then we would do the same at Brown University. We
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would do the same in Syria for the two soldiers
and the interpreter's family, and the same in Australia for
sixteen dead, and pray for the healing of the remaining
that are recuperating. And there is say time to understand
the complexities of these You're gonna hear a lot of
(20:05):
talk radio and you're gonna watch a lot of talk
television today, and it's gonna say, look at Australia with
all their stiff gun laws, how that worked? For you,
and there will be something that will tell you. These
father and son shooters, they're evil. This is Islam. They
must be stopped, You must understand them. But you got
to look at these in totality. There's a brave Muslim
(20:26):
who didn't run and seek cover. He snuck up from
behind and attacked one of the shooters and paid a
price for it.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
And he was Muslim.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
You got a father and son teaming up to do
mass murder. You got a son killing his mother and father.
This is just more than we can process. And what
I'm saying is narratives and talking points. They're not nearly
as important as reality and truth and what we're capable
(21:02):
of as human beings and what God's capable of as God.
And you got to let go of the stuff, for
it'll overwhelm you. But yeah, this is the time of
the year we sing the song Lead the bps on
Earth and let it be get. How many times have
we talked about comparing twenty twenty five to nineteen sixty eight,
(21:30):
And in nineteen sixty eight what happened. Well, RFK was killed,
MLK was killed and led a multiple race presidential race
that was finally won by Richard Nixon, who talked to
the sensible center and ignored the extreme left and right,
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and three men orbited the moon and looked back and
saw the Earth for the first time. And on Christmas
Eve read the Genesis creation story from lunar orbit. As
one woman telegraphed you saved nineteen sixty eight, and I
(22:16):
said this six months ago, and it's about two weeks
from being true. In this weekend, certainly felt like it
was true. What saves twenty twenty five because if nothing
does and if nothing changes, I know twenty six is
going to be just like twenty five, only worse. Now
(22:36):
out of these stories, first and foremost, what we know
is two people were found dead in Brentwood, Los Angeles.
Didn't take long to figure out that was the address
of Rob Reiner. Then the releasing of the ages seventy
eight and sixty eight. Then it was obvious to everyone
(22:58):
this is Rob Reiner and his wife Michelle dead in
their home and the LA burglary and homicide investigators are
on the scene. And then the announcement of no suspect
being looked for in one person of interested in custody,
And then I think it was people magazine that was
(23:18):
the first to release. It appears as though their very
own son, thirty two year old Nick, killed his mother
and father, Rob Reiner and Michelle Reiner. Then we got
to talk about all the movies. And I think the
interesting part of it is while Rob Reiner was in
real life a lot more like Meathead, his famous character
(23:43):
on all in the family in terms of being far
left and vocal, and if you were far right or center,
I'm sure he stepped on your toes. As I have said,
I have nothing worldview or politically in common with Rob Reiner,
(24:03):
and I don't know that he was any more vocal
from his worldview than I am from mine. But I'm
not gonna make him more in death than he was
in life. I didn't have a lot. I agreed with
him on some of the things he said I found
really shallow and offensive. It doesn't mean he deserved to
(24:26):
be betrayed by his own son and killed in such
a violent way in his own home. On a Sunday afternoon,
one caller called up and said, oh, Karma is a
you know what. And I'm like, well, look, Carl Reiner,
his father, that looks like a guy that would have been.
I mean him and mel Brooks comedic treasures, but human treasures.
(24:48):
I would look at you and say, I think Carl
Reiner was probably a great dad. I'd look at Rob
Reiner and I could say I bet he was difficult.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
But that doesn't excuse.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
The Son's got to own his drugg One hundred million
dollars can't stop the kinds of troubles that life can
bring through bad choices, and you'll have to own this
murder like he refused to own his addiction. That's just
an example of how you go. You avoid the narratives,
talking points and positions and judgments and just have human compassion.
(25:23):
A terrible way to die and no worse person to
have do it. That doesn't draw you to your knees
to pray for them. I'm encouraged you to do it,
just to let go because it'll overwhelm you. At Brown University,
there there was a person of interest held overnight but
(25:44):
then released, and so the suspect is at large could
strike again, no wonder All remaining classes have been canceled
at Brown University. We have no idea who the suspect is.
We've got one image of them walking down the street
not very good and there weren't any other videos in
and around that university. We talked earlier about look at
(26:06):
the scrutiny with Charlie Kirk and conspiracy theories. Do we
just have three four really tragic events this weekend and
do we have four big ongoing circuses to come?
Speaker 4 (26:22):
I hope not. So.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
We pray for the families of the victims and those
that were hurt. We pray for law enforcement to find
this person and secure this area. The world wants to
move on and talk about guns or knives, let them.
But if you just play that game, you're going to
walk with this human capacity issue breached and it's going
to overwhelm you. Now, Australia seems to be what has
(26:53):
gotten people most angry and some of the things that
the Prime Minister has said or refused to say. What
we pointed out was it appears obviously the target and
motive was anti Semitism. It appears obvious to be a
terrorist shooting, but it was also a Muslim who risked
(27:16):
his life to take down one of the shooters. Physically,
no weapons, he could have run hid. His wife said,
he just couldn't stand there and watch people being killed,
so he risked his own life. Now, the smart way
to look at this is there is an Islamist element here,
and because there were three contradictory lives of Muhammad, you
(27:39):
have three different types of Muslims today. Some are peace
loving like his early teachings. That's the kind that would
hate seeing innocent people being killed and would stop it.
There are political Islamists who want to terrorize you because
they don't want you to have a choice. You must convert,
pay the tax, or die. So they populate, they infiltrate,
(28:04):
they agitate, and then they wage war, and then there's
a jihadist who will kill you immediately. And if they
die in the process, that's the only promise of eternal
life they have. Now, our problem moving forward is we
don't know which of the three they are until it's
too late.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
And in this particular case, you have both a father
and son. Can you imagine doing such a thing together
with your son.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Exercising either extreme political Islam or jihadism, and one being
stopped by a courageous first type of Muslim. There's a
lot to process now, I know, in our culture and
in our society, and driven by social media, in twenty
four hour news cycles. Everybody grabs a firm immediate position,
(28:56):
but it doesn't change anything. It doesn't stop the next thing.
So all of this is relevant, reality, truth, resolve. That's
the way to move forward, not narrative in talking point. Certainly,
timing is everything now on the ISIS attack. That was
(29:22):
classic Donald Trump in the first term, and everybody forgets
what the Obama administration wasn't doing to target and destroy.
You don't defeat enemies with rhetoric and appeasement or political correctness.
You identify them and you defeat them. And Donald Trump
(29:45):
did and as often as the case with Islam, just
another head gross well, it appears first and foremost. I mean,
we'll talk to Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano about this, but
apparently the head is growing back of ISIS itself. ISIS
seems to be responsible for the death of two American
soldiers and one interpreter, and the president is promising retaliation.
(30:11):
There's two years, right, The first half of twenty twenty
five was all about ending wars and peace and trying
to achieve peace, and then it's the second half of
twenty twenty five or none of it sticks and whether
it's Venezuela or now in Syria with isis perhaps more
war brewing which to end full circle, because I can
(30:33):
tell by the way Jeffrey's staring at me, I'm out
of time. In addition to praying for all these victims,
family members and friends and loved ones and handing all
this over to God, I am reminded of those three
astronauts orbiting the Earth. I'm still waiting for a political
(30:54):
leader to talk to the sensible center, and I'm still
waiting for someone to save twenty five five.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
It's your morning show with Michael del Journo.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
There was a lot of violence this weekend. There's a
lot to sort through. We'll go by the latest. When
you went into sleep, you may or may not have
known that even anyone was found dead in Brentwood, Los Angeles,
let alone. It turned out to be famed Hollywood director
Rob Reiner and his wife Michelle let Alone, who was
believed to be the suspect. Roy O'Neal is joining us.
(31:26):
Our national correspondent Rory. What's the very latest.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
Well, it looks like according to People magazine, and the
investigation is focused on the yinders, thirty two year old son, Nick,
who has a history of a drug addiction, homelessness, even
and that seems to be where the investigation is focused.
We got a brief press conference from LAPD late last night.
They were still trying to get a surge warrant in
(31:51):
order to enter the property because for Judah's standing rules
and things like that. But yeah, they were still saying
that this was going to be They were still the
very preliminary part of the investigation. But at the same
time we're saying they really weren't looking for any suspect
as the attention falls to the couple's son.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Yeah, what we knew first was, Okay, two people were
found dead. Then we knew pretty quickly at the address
of Rob Reiner. Then the police wouldn't identify the victims
but said it was a seventy eight year old male
and a sixty eight year old female. Then I think
we all knew it was Rob Reiner's seventy eight years
old as wife Michelle sixty eight years old. And I
think the key to what you were just talking about
(32:30):
was Firstly, first the burglary and homicide divisions were there
on the scene. So my first thought was that somebody
break in and kill him. But then when they say
there are no they're not looking for any suspects, that's
usually the queue that they know who it is, and
it's usually often always family.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
Exactly and whether or not it's someone who suddenly regrets
what happened, or typically they stay at the scene and
there's enough evidence there to link them to the scene
as well. So that seems to be how the investigation
is moving forward. Again, haven't alerted the community that someone
else may be out there or given another name of
someone else.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
I shared a story here in Franklin, Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
It was a terrible, terrible story about a son who
had a very very unique disorder and a mother that
just couldn't live with watching her son suffer anymore. And
so what you thought was, well, that's weird, we don't
have murders here. And then when they said that there
was the community was safe and there are no suspects
being sought, well then you kind of can put two
(33:31):
and two together. And that's what this felt like, just
a tragic story, and I feel like we need to
do this. But whether you agreed or disagreed with Rob
Reiner's political worldview, and I disagreed his movies have touched
your life and they're cherished ones. I mean some of
my all time favorites. Harry met Sally a few good men.
(33:52):
We talked about misery. American President one of my all
time favorites. He was a remarkable storyteller and director and
burst out of the scene being the son of Karl
Reiner and his meat head on all in the family.
All right, what do we know about the ambush in Syria?
Because the President is obviously coming to the realization isis
is not decapitated, it's regrown ahead and it just attacked
(34:15):
two of his soldiers.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
Right and clearly sending out the message that the US
is prepared to respond with overwhelming force and strength. And look,
we're trying to get this budding relationship off the ground
with Syria and its new president. He invited him to
the White House. You know, we're trying to stabilize things
a little bit. So for this kind of action to
happen sets that process back significantly. And again, you've said
(34:41):
it so many times before, this president abhors this kind
of violence, but is ready to stand up and defend
America as necessary.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Well, there'll be a targeted struck again, we were hoping
this the last half of this year would be all
about peace. It's getting about further war now in Syria.
You no progress with Russia and Ukraine, and an escalation
with Venezuela.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
This is all very troubling.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I think the obvious the motive is clear father and
son killers in Sydney, mode of clear anti semitism. And
then one brave, courageous Muslim who didn't go hide or run.
He risked his life to take down one of the
gunmen running to the danger.
Speaker 7 (35:23):
Forty three years old, suffered a couple of gunshot wounds,
but Ahmed al Ahmed is recovering in the hospital now
and as you said, the world calling him a hero.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
After we watch that video a right twenty seconds, we
have no motive and no suspect in the brown shooting.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Right No, And again a setback with the announcement last
night that the person of interest has now been released,
they still don't have any video from inside the building
that's going to do them any good at all. They're
urging the public to say, look, if you got a
dash cam, a doorcam or whatever cam, check it out.
You might have captured the video of this suspect who
killed two and wounded nine.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
More.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Pretty busy news day. Lucky to have you to go
through it with me. Thank you Roy for great reporting.
We'll see you on the morning at five o'clock.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
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