November 22, 2024 • 34 mins
Twenty-six-year-old Jose Antonio Ibarra, an illegal immigrant, was arrested after police identified him as a suspect in the tragic murder of college student Laken Riley, who was killed while jogging on the University of Georgia campus in February. Riley was found dead with signs of blunt force trauma and asphyxiation.
Today, Sheryl McCollum and Nancy Grace discuss the recent conviction of Jose Antonio Ibarra for the brutal murder of Laken Riley in Athens, Georgia. They reflect on the courtroom proceedings, the lack of remorse from Lbarra, and the heart-wrenching impact statements from Laken's family and friends. Nancy shares her personal experience with loss and the long-term effects of dealing with the murder of a loved one. This episode will close with an 18-minutes of silence in honor of Laken's fight for her life.
Show Notes:
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(0:00) Welcome! Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week’s crime roundup
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(0:20) Justice served - conviction of Laken Riley's Killer
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(1:00) Emotional impact the trial had on the family
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(4:00) Nancy shares personal reflections
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(6:00) “Her friends and family have a life sentence.”
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(9:00) Discussion on the term “Peeping Tom” and its trivialization of crimes
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(12:00) Concerns about the sufficiency of the life without parole sentence
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(14:00) Reflections on grief and moving forward
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(15:45) Eighteen minutes of silence in Laken’s memory
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(34:30) Thank you for listening!
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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome to the Crime Round DUB.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm Cheryl McCollum and I am joined as always with.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
The one and only Nancy Grace. Good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Good morning. How are you, Cheryl?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
I am fantastic because I watched justice be served yesterday
in Athens, Georgia, with the conviction of Lake and Riley's killer.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
You know Antonio Vora may He rotten Hill. Did you
notice when he was sentenced He's had no emotion at all.
The most painful part for me. I mean, family friends
testified and gave statements in aggravation. But when the video
(00:54):
was played of when the mom learned Lake and This
is dead and she had to just lay down on
the ground, she was in so much pain. I can't
get that out of my mind. Cheryl.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
You know when Sheila Ross stood up and said, I'm
going to play.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
One minute, only one minute of the impact this family
has felt, family, friends, and community.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
It was gut wrenching video I think I've ever.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Seen, because you knew watching it when she got out
of that truck what she was fixing to find out
and learn, even though on some level you could tell
she already knew. And you know, I thought about.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
You, you've been.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
There, you've gotten that death notification, and watching her she
laid down on her back and then she just had
to turn almost in the fetal position, Sobby and to me,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I appreciated their statements and they meant so much in court,
the family and the friends. But when you're reading off
of a statement, I mean, it can never it can
never replicate what happened at the moment, the moment you
discovered the death, and it was just so raw and painful,
(02:17):
and the dichotomy of Jose Antonio Vara just sitting there
like a nerf ball, does nothing, no response, no remorse, nothing,
And I think back on Lacan and the brutal attack
that take down her, fighting, fighting like hell, and then
(02:39):
when she refused to be his rape victim, him batching
her head in with that rock still covered in her blood.
It was just seeing the mother lying on the ground
that way, I just I can't get out of my mind.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Eryl, And you know it was so just visually correct.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Because you talk about the twins a lot, I talk
about hunting Carolina a lot. I still cannot convey to
you what they mean to me, what their everyday jokes
or you know when they make fun of my parents.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
In or cooking or driving.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I mean, I can't tell you you know.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
How beautiful I think they are, how smart I think
they are.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
How talented and athletic and funny and giving and loving.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I can't express that verbally. I can't do it.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I mean, Cheryl, think about it. Just think about it,
if you can let yourself think about it. It's hard
for me to allow myself to think about this, But
imagine trying to put your loss of your child down
on paper and read it in a court of law,
(04:00):
the killer's sentencing. I mean, I don't even know if
I could walk out of that courtroom.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I don't know that I could walk in or out
of it.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I would almost pray that I lost my mind and
I just couldn't understand it.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, they were there every day, and I remember I
remember every day. It's all like a blur. Like people
I knew, you know, in high school, people that I
knew later in college, say hey, do you remember that time.
I'm like, no, I have no memory of it at all.
Because Cheryl, for a couple of years before and after
(04:40):
Keith Murder, I have all sorts of memory loss. I
don't have mis memory. I don't have false memory. I
just I can't remember. It's all a horrible, horrible blur.
But I do remember going to court every day, and
my father, who as you know, work for the railroad,
(05:03):
would have to take off of work and drive me,
oh gosh, almost two hours each way to the courthouse.
But my mother has told me that she also went.
I have no recollection of that at all. Both of them,
who you know, we were poor. You know, there's no
(05:23):
question about that. Taking off of work, not getting paid
and driving me two hours each way to a courthouse.
And all I can remember is sitting in the back
seat of my dad's car, just crying or just lying
their numb. I had to lay down in the back
(05:44):
seat and then get out and go into the courtroom.
It just, oh gosh.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And that family you said her friends and family have
a life sentence.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
They really do. And you don't know until it happened
to you how it affects your life. It changed, the course,
of course, my career, but that's nothing. I'm supposed to
be Shakespeare and English professor for Pete's sake, but that's nothing.
What it has changed. I mean, I couldn't stand the
(06:18):
thought of ever remarrying. For Pete's say, that was out
of the question, and so what did I do. I
waited until I was in my forties to get married
and then tried to have a family, and it was
so late that Lucy and I almost died for Pete's
sake because of the effect that murder had on me
over twenty years before. It just and then the way
(06:41):
I you know, when I watched the children drive out
of the driveway, I can't help but think will I
ever see them again? You know, it changes everything.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Nancy. You started telling me years ago, how am I
ever going to let them go off to college?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
And now you're doing college visits and I think, you know,
it goes through your mind. They're not just going to
pull out of the driveway one day.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
They're going to pull out and move out.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
And that is something that you know you watched again
Lacoln's mom. I mean, here was on this beautiful campus,
a safe campus, and surrounded by wonderful.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
People, and then here is this person that just takes
it all away.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
You know, so many of the visuals and the trial
have deeply, deeply affected me and anyone that was in
the courtroom. I mean, I know you were a lot,
but sitting in the courtroom. Three things, really, I can't
get them out of my mind. One is the video
(07:51):
caught of Jose and Antonio Ebara hiding stalking in a
densely wooded area, just waiting for a victim to come by,
sucking on a styre froam cup of alcohol, and he's
caught on video. Idiot, I mean, there was a video
(08:11):
cam catching a lot of what was going on. And
then the second thing, I mean, that's intent right there.
He stood there and waited, waited to see a woman
go by. The second thing, Cheryl is seeing him in court,
(08:32):
sitting like about eleven feet behind him, and seeing his
lack of remorse, lack of emotion. A complete sociopath, which
means I've been told by shrinks that you do not
feel empathy or sympathy with other people. You like, if
(08:53):
you see someone in pain or suffering, you don't think,
oh no, how can I help them? None of that
bothers you. Okay, that's him. That's the second thing. And
the third thing. Many people think of Lacan in depth.
They think of the crime scene photos of her a
(09:13):
lying there with her head disfigured. But I will always
think of Lacan and one of the last idiots off
her running free a lot happy, full of vitality, hopes
and dreams, and running running free.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Well, you know, my pet peeve about Peeping Tom. I
cannot stand that term.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
You know how many rate and murder cases I prosecuted
and when I would look back in criminal history and
arrest Peeping Tom.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
One hundred and I think the charge should be criminal surveillance.
So I'm going to stay on that bandwagon until I'm
off this earth.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Keeeping Tom does not even again to its sounds like
a game exactly, and then go.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Seek or you know how you you pay pikaboo with
a baby, So.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
It sounds like it lessens what this criminal is doing.
And we watched Joseah Bara for seventy three minutes try
to gain entry into an apartment, hide behind trees, walk
down to the path, and come back and again his
roommate said, oh, that's an area he went a lot. Well,
(10:32):
you and I already knew that he had scoped out
the first floor apartment.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
He had scoped out where he could hide and attack
a jogger from the back.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
We already knew that this was an accomplished predator.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I just wish the judge could have done more. I
do for some reason, life without role just doesn't seem
like enough, does it, Because he's never going to feel
any pain or remorse, and we're stuck with paying for
him for the rest of his life. Now, there's always
a fear. Remember Charles Manson got the death penalty and
(11:11):
Wepsie they changed the law and its community to life.
I just hope and pray that some quote enlightened legislature
or assembly doesn't suddenly decide, you know, life for that
barul is cruel and unusual and everybody walks free.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
The cruel and unusual happened to Lacan Riley.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
It really did. That poor girl, That poor girl and
that poor family.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
You know, I cried several times yesterday. I cried.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Frienkindly spoke and said she was wearing one of her
shirts that she had been given.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I cried when her mama spoke.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Crowd Winter Stepdaddy got up and read the letter that
Lacan had written to her future husband.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I mean, if that didn't tell that child's.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Heart, you know, I'm just wondering how the friends are
going forward and how it's affecting them. Seeing them in
court yesterday was just brutal, brutal. But again, did you
notice whose e Borah sat there nothing, with no emotion
(12:18):
at all. What do you make of that?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Well, he's a sociopath, psychopath and a piece of crap.
But you know, one great thing that I heard Sheila
Row say that I think is so important is when
she told the judge there's one person, Lauren Phillips that
will inherit this sentence and she is now an only
(12:42):
child and she should not have.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
To worry that he is ever going to be released.
I thought that was so powerful and accurate.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I will never forget when I was working at Court
TV and I read an email from one of the
viewers that said, did you know Keith's killer has been released?
(13:15):
And I had no idea, And I just would dread
the day that this family gets some sort of a
notification of some type. I don't know. Just the thought
that he is going to be behind bars, getting his
(13:37):
ged and having three hots and a cod and probably
getting his tablet his iPad like Murdoch has just it's
just too raw to think about it right now. But
he did get life without parole. That's the maccentence other
(13:58):
than the death penalty. A lot of second guessing this
morning about why the death penalty was not sought. To me,
that is a waste of effort. Now, that was an
argument that should have been made a long time ago,
but it wasn't, and I'm very curious about that. But
(14:20):
that said, now we have to move forward because guess what, Cheryl,
there are other cases that need you. There are other
cases that need me. And it reminds me so much
of trying cases and you devote all your time, all
your energy, your blood, sweat and tears literally, and then
(14:41):
the verdicts read and everybody leaves the courtroom and you're
just sitting there going, what the hell just happened? And
then somehow you have to start all over again with
the next case. And that's what we have to do now.
It pains me to know that her family can't just
(15:02):
pick up and keep going. They're never going to be
able to.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
And you always say to me, forward onward.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Somebody else does need us, and that's exactly what we're
going to do today.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Cheryl, thank you for letting me be a part of
today's crime Round. Up, and I just imagine Laken. You know,
every morning I get up for five and I have
to go outside do chores. I look up at the
sky and I see the stars are still out, and
I imagine that Laken is up there as one of
(15:36):
those stars. So let's just keep.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Going, Cheryl, y'all, I'm going to tell you how we're
going to end the crime roundup. We are going to
have eighteen minutes of silence for every minute that lake
In fought her killer, and you finished driving, and you
finish what you're doing at work, and finish what you're
(16:00):
doing around the house, and you think about the next
eighteen minutes she was.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Fighting for her life be made.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Then at Devil I'm Cheryl mc column with Nancy Grays,
and this is a crime round up. M
Welcome to the Crime Round DUB.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm Cheryl McCollum and I am joined as always with.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
The one and only Nancy Grace. Good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Good morning. How are you, Cheryl?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
I am fantastic because I watched justice be served yesterday
in Athens, Georgia, with the conviction of Lake and Riley's killer.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
You know Antonio Vora may He rotten Hill. Did you
notice when he was sentenced He's had no emotion at all.
The most painful part for me. I mean, family friends
testified and gave statements in aggravation. But when the video
(00:54):
was played of when the mom learned Lake and This
is dead and she had to just lay down on
the ground, she was in so much pain. I can't
get that out of my mind. Cheryl.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
You know when Sheila Ross stood up and said, I'm
going to play.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
One minute, only one minute of the impact this family
has felt, family, friends, and community.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
It was gut wrenching video I think I've ever.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Seen, because you knew watching it when she got out
of that truck what she was fixing to find out
and learn, even though on some level you could tell
she already knew. And you know, I thought about.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
You, you've been.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
There, you've gotten that death notification, and watching her she
laid down on her back and then she just had
to turn almost in the fetal position, Sobby and to me,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I appreciated their statements and they meant so much in court,
the family and the friends. But when you're reading off
of a statement, I mean, it can never it can
never replicate what happened at the moment, the moment you
discovered the death, and it was just so raw and painful,
(02:17):
and the dichotomy of Jose Antonio Vara just sitting there
like a nerf ball, does nothing, no response, no remorse, nothing,
And I think back on Lacan and the brutal attack
that take down her, fighting, fighting like hell, and then
(02:39):
when she refused to be his rape victim, him batching
her head in with that rock still covered in her blood.
It was just seeing the mother lying on the ground
that way, I just I can't get out of my mind.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Eryl, And you know it was so just visually correct.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Because you talk about the twins a lot, I talk
about hunting Carolina a lot. I still cannot convey to
you what they mean to me, what their everyday jokes
or you know when they make fun of my parents.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
In or cooking or driving.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I mean, I can't tell you you know.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
How beautiful I think they are, how smart I think
they are.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
How talented and athletic and funny and giving and loving.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I can't express that verbally. I can't do it.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I mean, Cheryl, think about it. Just think about it,
if you can let yourself think about it. It's hard
for me to allow myself to think about this, But
imagine trying to put your loss of your child down
on paper and read it in a court of law,
(04:00):
the killer's sentencing. I mean, I don't even know if
I could walk out of that courtroom.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I don't know that I could walk in or out
of it.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I would almost pray that I lost my mind and
I just couldn't understand it.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, they were there every day, and I remember I
remember every day. It's all like a blur. Like people
I knew, you know, in high school, people that I
knew later in college, say hey, do you remember that time.
I'm like, no, I have no memory of it at all.
Because Cheryl, for a couple of years before and after
(04:40):
Keith Murder, I have all sorts of memory loss. I
don't have mis memory. I don't have false memory. I
just I can't remember. It's all a horrible, horrible blur.
But I do remember going to court every day, and
my father, who as you know, work for the railroad,
(05:03):
would have to take off of work and drive me,
oh gosh, almost two hours each way to the courthouse.
But my mother has told me that she also went.
I have no recollection of that at all. Both of them,
who you know, we were poor. You know, there's no
(05:23):
question about that. Taking off of work, not getting paid
and driving me two hours each way to a courthouse.
And all I can remember is sitting in the back
seat of my dad's car, just crying or just lying
their numb. I had to lay down in the back
(05:44):
seat and then get out and go into the courtroom.
It just, oh gosh.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And that family you said her friends and family have
a life sentence.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
They really do. And you don't know until it happened
to you how it affects your life. It changed, the course,
of course, my career, but that's nothing. I'm supposed to
be Shakespeare and English professor for Pete's sake, but that's nothing.
What it has changed. I mean, I couldn't stand the
(06:18):
thought of ever remarrying. For Pete's say, that was out
of the question, and so what did I do. I
waited until I was in my forties to get married
and then tried to have a family, and it was
so late that Lucy and I almost died for Pete's
sake because of the effect that murder had on me
over twenty years before. It just and then the way
(06:41):
I you know, when I watched the children drive out
of the driveway, I can't help but think will I
ever see them again? You know, it changes everything.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Nancy. You started telling me years ago, how am I
ever going to let them go off to college?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
And now you're doing college visits and I think, you know,
it goes through your mind. They're not just going to
pull out of the driveway one day.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
They're going to pull out and move out.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
And that is something that you know you watched again
Lacoln's mom. I mean, here was on this beautiful campus,
a safe campus, and surrounded by wonderful.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
People, and then here is this person that just takes
it all away.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
You know, so many of the visuals and the trial
have deeply, deeply affected me and anyone that was in
the courtroom. I mean, I know you were a lot,
but sitting in the courtroom. Three things, really, I can't
get them out of my mind. One is the video
(07:51):
caught of Jose and Antonio Ebara hiding stalking in a
densely wooded area, just waiting for a victim to come by,
sucking on a styre froam cup of alcohol, and he's
caught on video. Idiot, I mean, there was a video
(08:11):
cam catching a lot of what was going on. And
then the second thing, I mean, that's intent right there.
He stood there and waited, waited to see a woman
go by. The second thing, Cheryl is seeing him in court,
(08:32):
sitting like about eleven feet behind him, and seeing his
lack of remorse, lack of emotion. A complete sociopath, which
means I've been told by shrinks that you do not
feel empathy or sympathy with other people. You like, if
(08:53):
you see someone in pain or suffering, you don't think,
oh no, how can I help them? None of that
bothers you. Okay, that's him. That's the second thing. And
the third thing. Many people think of Lacan in depth.
They think of the crime scene photos of her a
(09:13):
lying there with her head disfigured. But I will always
think of Lacan and one of the last idiots off
her running free a lot happy, full of vitality, hopes
and dreams, and running running free.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Well, you know, my pet peeve about Peeping Tom. I
cannot stand that term.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
You know how many rate and murder cases I prosecuted
and when I would look back in criminal history and
arrest Peeping Tom.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
One hundred and I think the charge should be criminal surveillance.
So I'm going to stay on that bandwagon until I'm
off this earth.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Keeeping Tom does not even again to its sounds like
a game exactly, and then go.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Seek or you know how you you pay pikaboo with
a baby, So.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
It sounds like it lessens what this criminal is doing.
And we watched Joseah Bara for seventy three minutes try
to gain entry into an apartment, hide behind trees, walk
down to the path, and come back and again his
roommate said, oh, that's an area he went a lot. Well,
(10:32):
you and I already knew that he had scoped out
the first floor apartment.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
He had scoped out where he could hide and attack
a jogger from the back.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
We already knew that this was an accomplished predator.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I just wish the judge could have done more. I
do for some reason, life without role just doesn't seem
like enough, does it, Because he's never going to feel
any pain or remorse, and we're stuck with paying for
him for the rest of his life. Now, there's always
a fear. Remember Charles Manson got the death penalty and
(11:11):
Wepsie they changed the law and its community to life.
I just hope and pray that some quote enlightened legislature
or assembly doesn't suddenly decide, you know, life for that
barul is cruel and unusual and everybody walks free.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
The cruel and unusual happened to Lacan Riley.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
It really did. That poor girl, That poor girl and
that poor family.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
You know, I cried several times yesterday. I cried.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Frienkindly spoke and said she was wearing one of her
shirts that she had been given.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I cried when her mama spoke.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Crowd Winter Stepdaddy got up and read the letter that
Lacan had written to her future husband.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I mean, if that didn't tell that child's.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Heart, you know, I'm just wondering how the friends are
going forward and how it's affecting them. Seeing them in
court yesterday was just brutal, brutal. But again, did you
notice whose e Borah sat there nothing, with no emotion
(12:18):
at all. What do you make of that?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Well, he's a sociopath, psychopath and a piece of crap.
But you know, one great thing that I heard Sheila
Row say that I think is so important is when
she told the judge there's one person, Lauren Phillips that
will inherit this sentence and she is now an only
(12:42):
child and she should not have.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
To worry that he is ever going to be released.
I thought that was so powerful and accurate.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I will never forget when I was working at Court
TV and I read an email from one of the
viewers that said, did you know Keith's killer has been released?
(13:15):
And I had no idea, And I just would dread
the day that this family gets some sort of a
notification of some type. I don't know. Just the thought
that he is going to be behind bars, getting his
(13:37):
ged and having three hots and a cod and probably
getting his tablet his iPad like Murdoch has just it's
just too raw to think about it right now. But
he did get life without parole. That's the maccentence other
(13:58):
than the death penalty. A lot of second guessing this
morning about why the death penalty was not sought. To me,
that is a waste of effort. Now, that was an
argument that should have been made a long time ago,
but it wasn't, and I'm very curious about that. But
(14:20):
that said, now we have to move forward because guess what, Cheryl,
there are other cases that need you. There are other
cases that need me. And it reminds me so much
of trying cases and you devote all your time, all
your energy, your blood, sweat and tears literally, and then
(14:41):
the verdicts read and everybody leaves the courtroom and you're
just sitting there going, what the hell just happened? And
then somehow you have to start all over again with
the next case. And that's what we have to do now.
It pains me to know that her family can't just
(15:02):
pick up and keep going. They're never going to be
able to.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
And you always say to me, forward onward.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Somebody else does need us, and that's exactly what we're
going to do today.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Cheryl, thank you for letting me be a part of
today's crime Round. Up, and I just imagine Laken. You know,
every morning I get up for five and I have
to go outside do chores. I look up at the
sky and I see the stars are still out, and
I imagine that Laken is up there as one of
(15:36):
those stars. So let's just keep.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Going, Cheryl, y'all, I'm going to tell you how we're
going to end the crime roundup. We are going to
have eighteen minutes of silence for every minute that lake
In fought her killer, and you finished driving, and you
finish what you're doing at work, and finish what you're
(16:00):
doing around the house, and you think about the next
eighteen minutes she was.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Fighting for her life be made.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Then at Devil I'm Cheryl mc column with Nancy Grays,
and this is a crime round up. M
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Sheryl McCollum
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