Florida teen kidnapped and possibly dismembered after meeting man from social media. Miranda Corsette, 16, was lured through a social media app to meet 35-year-old Steven Gress. If you know anything about this case please call the tipline: ST. PETERSBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT (727) 893-7780 or Text: Send “SPPD” to TIP411
Nancy Grace and Sheryl McCollum dissect the tragic case of Miranda Corsette, a 16-year-old girl from Gulfport, Florida. Miranda, who recently lost her parents and moved in with her grandmother, was targeted by a 37-year-old man she met online. Nancy recounts the horrifying details of Miranda's four-day torture and eventual murder, including shocking video evidence captured by a neighbor's ring camera. Nancy and Sheryl break down how this could become a heartbreaking “no body, no crime” case, where the lack of physical remains threatens to silence justice for a girl whose pain was all too real.
Show Notes:
- (0:00) Welcome! Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week’s crime roundup
- (0:15) Sheryl starts CRU with the tragic case of 16-year-old Miranda Corsette
- (1:30) Nancy details out the crime - Valentine’s day date
- (3:30) Ring video evidence
- (4:00) Nancy details out the pool ball and the cellophane
- (8:00) Possible questions of confession and discovery
- (9:00) The relationship with fellow neighbors with the perpetrator
- (10:00) The harpoon gun incident
- (14:30) “If this is not a death penalty case, I don’t know what is.” -Nancy Grace
- (17:00) Closing remarks
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to the Crime Roundup. I'm Cheryl McCollum and i
am joined this morning by Nancy Grace, and I'm going
to go ahead and tell y'all.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
You better hang on. Nancy, good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
You often say to me when I say hey, how
are you? You say angry and won't justice? Well, baby,
I am right with you this morning.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I take it that you have looked at the YouTube.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I watched your YouTube on that poor child who was
tortured for four days by that monster that she met online.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
You know what this little girl, and I'm talking about
Brandon because that of Flora, she was from Gulf Court,
has happened a little bit down the road from Gulfport.
It's so upsetting. She had just turned sixteen. I mean,
just emphasize that, by all accounts, she's fifteen, just turned right.
(01:17):
She suddenly lost both of her parents. Can you imagine
at that age? No, and she moves in with grandma. So,
you know, Grandma's doing, you know, the best she can,
but it's all I can do to keep up with
the twins. One of those twenty twenty five years older
and had no idea about social media or anything else.
(01:41):
So this little girl knows nobody right, new area, the
whole thing. She looks for, acceptance, love, you know, everything
they look at on TikTok online. Meet someone and the
grandma's she's so happy. The granddaughter has a Valentine Day date.
(02:09):
She's sixteen, She's going to have a Valentine's Day date.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
It's this guy that she meets, thirty seven year old
herve and I didn't get There's two things.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Online I want you to look at. One is the
flip that we managed to obtain, and.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
We got it.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
By the way, Cheryl from a real ham of the
upstairs neighbor a pretty nice little neighborhood. They live in
a home. This poor she meets her line and he's
got a woman with him, a woman who you in
bee with a lot of motherly love. At least. Jury's
deep is with the guy and she goes along with
(02:55):
all this.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Oh she goes along.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Oh, yes, more than going along, well the tow of
these people. Anyway. It's a home, a single family home,
but it's split into a duplex, so the upstairs is
one home, the downstairs is another home. Thank Heaven, because
this may never have come to light if we hadn't
gotten hold of that ring video. The ring video upstairs
(03:23):
catches the downstairs neighbor. I hain't to even say it
carrying the little girl's body. It looks wrapped like in blankets,
possibly carrying the body to his trunk. There's a more
video that I couldn't show for other reasons, and I'll
(03:43):
tell you what they are. It implicates authorite party and
that I don't know who it is and I don't
know enough about it to put it out there. Understood
everything I could show I did. It's awful. It's awful,
and when you look at it, we're so desensitized to
sing things like this in the movies. This is a
grown man, you only forty years old, carrying the body
(04:07):
of this little girl. He has had her tied to
a cheer for days, beating her. This devil and his
bills abub get the girl. They rape her, beat her.
The woman that makes up some excuse that she's lost
her ring accuses the little girl, and the little girl's
(04:29):
crying as I hope you find it. I help you
find it, but instead I hope you're sitting down. That
pays me to even say this.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
They get a.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Pool ball and cram it into the little girl's mouth.
Then they wrap her face and head in cellophane, and
of course she's sixty eights with a pool ball crammed
in her head. You have no idea what I want
to do to these people. Then they take her body
(05:00):
and they rapid in material of some sort. It looks
to me like blankets or sheets, put her in the truck,
and then cant this. Then, Cheryl, I've got them on video.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
It's way.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
They're packing up to go to a picnic, taking all
the stuff with them to go dismember and dispose of her.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Daddy, Yeah, tell everybody where they went to dismember her.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Well, we've got conflicting accounts of where they went, some accounts.
Of course, all this has to be preven in a
court of law. They're inocent until proven guilty. We all
know that. Some accounts say they go to the code defendant,
the female code defendant, who's thirty five, obviously knows better.
(05:46):
Mother's house. We don't know that, but there is a
tertiary crime. See where the body was dismembered. I know
that they then take her either to a dump or
a waste to energy plant where she's incinerated. So it's
very likely this is going to be a nobody, no
(06:09):
case scenario. Now do I believe there's no case? No
tell I believe there is a case thanks to this
ring video. It's amazing to me the callous nature how
they treated not only her but her body, and the
torture she went through. And in the pictures that we show.
There's a brief YouTube I put up it's like twenty minutes.
(06:34):
Then there's a full on discussion for like forty minutes
where you see more. We go into more depth. There
are a ton of photos that we got. We went
inside the house and you can see for the police
have gone for fingerprints. There's black fingerprint powder. I talk
about you all over the walls and in one corner.
(06:57):
I don't know if they knew the significance of this
when they saw it, but the prosecutor will now in
one corner there is a mop leaned against the wall
in the corner. A neighbor came over. Wait for it, Cheryl.
A neighbor came over across the street, comes to the door.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
We believe we don't know this yet, sees the girl
curled up in a fetal position in the corner where
that mop is crying and doesn't do anything, and then.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Turn around he goes back. Well, I mean, maybe, for
all I know, she thought, I don't know what she thought.
Maybe there's an innocent explanation. I don't know what that
would be, but maybe there is one. But that child
may have been saved. But I don't want to take
away the responsibility of the man and the woman the
(07:50):
double and builds them up. It's them, it's not the
neighbor's fault. But still, when I think about how close
she was to being saved, First.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Of all, I don't know how you get a pool
ball all the way in somebody's mouth with their teeth intact.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I just don't know how that's possible.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
And second, if she was incinerated, how do we know
about the pool ball?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
It seems like law enforcement has.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Information that would only be available if she were recovered.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
No, she was not recovered. What I'm guessing is that
one of the two of them spoke. I don't know
to whom they spoke.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Maybe they told I don't know who they told, but
they told somebody. There are reports that one of them
have confessed. We'll see so Boleeth, saying she was lured
through a social media app to meet This guy's name
is Stephen Gress. He's got a horrible history. Guess what
(08:50):
else I found? Let me rephrase that, guess what else
we found? I owe a lot to Robert Crispin. You
know a former dea former DOJ. He found a neighbor.
That a former neighbor that agreed to talk to me.
Just a beautiful woman. This guy stalked and harassed her
(09:12):
when she lived near him, and would send her all
sorts of lude, sex advances, just whatever you can imagine,
that's what he proposed to her. He would come and
bang on her door at midnight, claiming that mail to
her had come to him. Then she had a fender
(09:34):
bender and left her number on the car, saying, hey,
I ran into your car. I'm sorry, here's my number.
He went and got the numbers started bombarding her with
texts and calls. She was so upset she went to
go get an injunction, a temporary straining order, and even
showing the judge all of the texts, he would not
(09:57):
give her an injunction. Now Miranda is.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Dead and in the top neighbor the upstairs neighbor.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Aren't they afraid of him too?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Well, this is what happened. Thank you Lord for harpoon guns.
Why do I say that? Because this idiot, after Miranda
had been murdered, the ting girl, Miranda Cosette, after her murder,
this guy takes a harpoon gun and threatens to shoot.
(10:31):
The woman builds a bub as I call her to
live in domestic gets called. Police come to a domrail
domestic relations attack. They get there, they arrest him. He
goes to jail on that and as soon as he
is out of his place, the neighbors an anonymous tip
from a neighbor comes in about Miranda. Once they thought
(10:55):
he was away and that they were safe, they immediately called.
And when you see, as I said, there's some like
a twenty three or four minute on YouTube. Then there's
a forty four minute the interview with the neighbor that
describes what happened, and I also revealed the name of
(11:17):
the judge that refuses trro Is on the forty four
minute one. And there's a whole interview with her about
living next to this guy and her fear, and finally,
of course she moved and another woman we've managed to
find also moved hastily, broke the least, just got out
of there because this guy was harassing them, stalking them,
(11:40):
and they were afraid of this guy. And then he
collides with a sixteen year old little girl.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Right, you can see it.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
And at thirty seven he's got a string of victims
in his path.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Oh yeah, he's got a rap sheet. He's got a
rap sheet at the EA. The immediate question is can
we convict him without a body? That's the immediate question.
I hate to see the state turned to codefendant testimony.
They may have to, but with this ring camera video
(12:15):
we got, they may not need to. And another thing,
I hope, hope, hope they've sent cadaverdogs to hit on
the trunk of that car to corroborate the video.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Right, agreed, Yes, then of course there's a possibility of
a tertiary crime scene where the body was dismembered, so that.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Will give us evidence as well. I mean, I don't
want him to get a gold star A plus because
he managed to get rid of the body.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Here's what's baffling. Crime scene you're talking about wasn't even
necessary where they're physically dismembering her to do that. It's
not necessary. That's just another level of evil. You're in Florida,
You've got a dead body in your car. How many
places could did you go and hide that body?
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Get rid of a million?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
A million?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I mean, if it hadn't been for red white, blue methane,
red blue with a can you remember them that happened
to see Gabby Petito's for a transit? We never found
her body.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Never, But they choose not to do that.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
They choose to go somewhere, get her out of the trunk,
torture her more, dismember her, place her back in the car,
and take her wherever they take her. But again, I'm
just saying that wasn't necessary.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
That was just more pure evil.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I think that they killed her in the home with
the keyball in her mouth. How they did that, I
don't know. Painful, awful. The girl was alive when that happened.
Miranda then wrapped her head and cell phane. Then they
took her body in full wrapped in blankets as you
(13:56):
can see on the video, put it in the vehicle.
Then they packed the crawl they're going on a picnic.
Then they leave, I don't know, probably stopped to drive
through on the way with the girl in the trunk,
the dead body in the trunk, then go to the
tertiary crime scene where they dismember the body. Don't know
(14:19):
where that happened yet, there are allegations yet to be proven.
But wherever they went, that could be a witness right there,
there could be a witness at that scene. Anyway, dismember
her body there and you know, the idiots left behind evidence.
Then they go dispose of her body either at a landfill,
(14:42):
a dump, or a waste of energy recycling, which means
she was incinerated. Now again, those waste to energies usually
have cameras. A lot of dumps have cameras, so hopefully
it will obtain da evidence from there. But I want
a witness because without a body, we're gonna need more.
(15:04):
You know, under our constitution, the interpretation of our constitution,
you cannot try a case based on a confession alone. No,
you have to have corroboration. So that's what I'm looking
for right now. Maybe the video could do that with
a dog also hitting on the trunk, a cadaver dog.
(15:25):
So we'll see what the State of Florida does. But
I mean if This is not a death penalty case.
I don't know what is a sixteen year old girl
the video when he's just casually walking to the car,
not even running, not even trying to hide.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
He is not in a hurry in the front yard,
in the front yard, in the front yard, in and
out of the house.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Like you said, they're just packing up to go on
a day trip, a little picnic.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Well, I thought of the way, you know, when you're
going to unload your car with groceries. He was going
about that speed. He put her in the car, shut
the trunk, walk just saunters back in. Oh yeah, if
you look at the we may have it in both
we may have it in both versions. But we also
got video of Maranda herself like dressed up for a date,
(16:14):
so cute. You know how the girls now they wear
a little midriff top with long sleeves and then they
wear big, baggy like sweatpants or I don't. They're certainly
not sweatpants as we know sweatpants, but they're like fashion sweatpants.
She had on these baggy little sweatpants from waist to
(16:35):
ankle and a long sleeve middriff top matching for her
quote date so cute, and we see her in the
front yard going into the house just before she's murdered.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
And let's talk about four days.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
So it's that four days she's got to go to
the bathroom, she's got at least maybe have a drink
of water.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
But between attacks, she's crying, she's begging, she's miserable. For
four days.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
They allow this repeated abuse, these repeated crimes, assaults, and
in between, when there's a down, there's a lull in
their abuse. They are still privy to this just tortured
(17:30):
child that they render no aid, no care, no concern,
and not one, but two people, possibly three people allow
it to happen. Four hours, eight hours, twenty four hours,
thirty six hours.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Seventy two hours. That's that's beyond the devil Nancy.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
You know what else, Sharyl, I keep thinking about she
didn't even have any parents to call out to know, God,
Elmody didn't even have a mom and dad and grandma.
You know, she didn't know what was going on. She
had nobody, nobody. I mean, this child, when I think
about it, I mean, it hurts me to think about it.
(18:17):
But we have to, Cheryl, because there has to be justice.
There has got to be justice, and they cannot be
rewarded because they got rid of the body.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Amen, that's what I'm screaming, Cheryl.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
I hate to leave you on that note, but guess
who's here, My sister from California to Brady Emick.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Lovely, y'all go and celebrate, and I'll tell you what, Nancy,
You're not gonna forget it.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
You're not gonna let this go. Oh No, that child
like her mama, and we will all stand with you.
So let's go fight.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Honey, help me, Cheryl, help me, help me get it
out there.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Amen, Let's do it. Love you, Love you to honey,
Welcome to the Crime Roundup. I'm Cheryl McCollum and i
am joined this morning by Nancy Grace, and I'm going
to go ahead and tell y'all.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
You better hang on. Nancy, good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
You often say to me when I say hey, how
are you? You say angry and won't justice? Well, baby,
I am right with you this morning.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I take it that you have looked at the YouTube.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I watched your YouTube on that poor child who was
tortured for four days by that monster that she met online.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
You know what this little girl, and I'm talking about
Brandon because that of Flora, she was from Gulf Court,
has happened a little bit down the road from Gulfport.
It's so upsetting. She had just turned sixteen. I mean,
just emphasize that, by all accounts, she's fifteen, just turned right.
(01:17):
She suddenly lost both of her parents. Can you imagine
at that age? No, and she moves in with grandma. So,
you know, Grandma's doing, you know, the best she can,
but it's all I can do to keep up with
the twins. One of those twenty twenty five years older
and had no idea about social media or anything else.
(01:41):
So this little girl knows nobody right, new area, the
whole thing. She looks for, acceptance, love, you know, everything
they look at on TikTok online. Meet someone and the
grandma's she's so happy. The granddaughter has a Valentine Day date.
(02:09):
She's sixteen, She's going to have a Valentine's Day date.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
It's this guy that she meets, thirty seven year old
herve and I didn't get There's two things.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Online I want you to look at. One is the
flip that we managed to obtain, and.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
We got it.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
By the way, Cheryl from a real ham of the
upstairs neighbor a pretty nice little neighborhood. They live in
a home. This poor she meets her line and he's
got a woman with him, a woman who you in
bee with a lot of motherly love. At least. Jury's
deep is with the guy and she goes along with
(02:55):
all this.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Oh she goes along.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Oh, yes, more than going along, well the tow of
these people. Anyway. It's a home, a single family home,
but it's split into a duplex, so the upstairs is
one home, the downstairs is another home. Thank Heaven, because
this may never have come to light if we hadn't
gotten hold of that ring video. The ring video upstairs
(03:23):
catches the downstairs neighbor. I hain't to even say it
carrying the little girl's body. It looks wrapped like in blankets,
possibly carrying the body to his trunk. There's a more
video that I couldn't show for other reasons, and I'll
(03:43):
tell you what they are. It implicates authorite party and
that I don't know who it is and I don't
know enough about it to put it out there. Understood
everything I could show I did. It's awful. It's awful,
and when you look at it, we're so desensitized to
sing things like this in the movies. This is a
grown man, you only forty years old, carrying the body
(04:07):
of this little girl. He has had her tied to
a cheer for days, beating her. This devil and his
bills abub get the girl. They rape her, beat her.
The woman that makes up some excuse that she's lost
her ring accuses the little girl, and the little girl's
(04:29):
crying as I hope you find it. I help you
find it, but instead I hope you're sitting down. That
pays me to even say this.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
They get a.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Pool ball and cram it into the little girl's mouth.
Then they wrap her face and head in cellophane, and
of course she's sixty eights with a pool ball crammed
in her head. You have no idea what I want
to do to these people. Then they take her body
(05:00):
and they rapid in material of some sort. It looks
to me like blankets or sheets, put her in the truck,
and then cant this. Then, Cheryl, I've got them on video.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
It's way.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
They're packing up to go to a picnic, taking all
the stuff with them to go dismember and dispose of her.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Daddy, Yeah, tell everybody where they went to dismember her.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Well, we've got conflicting accounts of where they went, some accounts.
Of course, all this has to be preven in a
court of law. They're inocent until proven guilty. We all
know that. Some accounts say they go to the code defendant,
the female code defendant, who's thirty five, obviously knows better.
(05:46):
Mother's house. We don't know that, but there is a
tertiary crime. See where the body was dismembered. I know
that they then take her either to a dump or
a waste to energy plant where she's incinerated. So it's
very likely this is going to be a nobody, no
(06:09):
case scenario. Now do I believe there's no case? No
tell I believe there is a case thanks to this
ring video. It's amazing to me the callous nature how
they treated not only her but her body, and the
torture she went through. And in the pictures that we show.
There's a brief YouTube I put up it's like twenty minutes.
(06:34):
Then there's a full on discussion for like forty minutes
where you see more. We go into more depth. There
are a ton of photos that we got. We went
inside the house and you can see for the police
have gone for fingerprints. There's black fingerprint powder. I talk
about you all over the walls and in one corner.
(06:57):
I don't know if they knew the significance of this
when they saw it, but the prosecutor will now in
one corner there is a mop leaned against the wall
in the corner. A neighbor came over. Wait for it, Cheryl.
A neighbor came over across the street, comes to the door.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
We believe we don't know this yet, sees the girl
curled up in a fetal position in the corner where
that mop is crying and doesn't do anything, and then.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Turn around he goes back. Well, I mean, maybe, for
all I know, she thought, I don't know what she thought.
Maybe there's an innocent explanation. I don't know what that
would be, but maybe there is one. But that child
may have been saved. But I don't want to take
away the responsibility of the man and the woman the
(07:50):
double and builds them up. It's them, it's not the
neighbor's fault. But still, when I think about how close
she was to being saved, First.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Of all, I don't know how you get a pool
ball all the way in somebody's mouth with their teeth intact.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I just don't know how that's possible.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
And second, if she was incinerated, how do we know
about the pool ball?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
It seems like law enforcement has.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Information that would only be available if she were recovered.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
No, she was not recovered. What I'm guessing is that
one of the two of them spoke. I don't know
to whom they spoke.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Maybe they told I don't know who they told, but
they told somebody. There are reports that one of them
have confessed. We'll see so Boleeth, saying she was lured
through a social media app to meet This guy's name
is Stephen Gress. He's got a horrible history. Guess what
(08:50):
else I found? Let me rephrase that, guess what else
we found? I owe a lot to Robert Crispin. You
know a former dea former DOJ. He found a neighbor.
That a former neighbor that agreed to talk to me.
Just a beautiful woman. This guy stalked and harassed her
(09:12):
when she lived near him, and would send her all
sorts of lude, sex advances, just whatever you can imagine,
that's what he proposed to her. He would come and
bang on her door at midnight, claiming that mail to
her had come to him. Then she had a fender
(09:34):
bender and left her number on the car, saying, hey,
I ran into your car. I'm sorry, here's my number.
He went and got the numbers started bombarding her with
texts and calls. She was so upset she went to
go get an injunction, a temporary straining order, and even
showing the judge all of the texts, he would not
(09:57):
give her an injunction. Now Miranda is.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Dead and in the top neighbor the upstairs neighbor.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Aren't they afraid of him too?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Well, this is what happened. Thank you Lord for harpoon guns.
Why do I say that? Because this idiot, after Miranda
had been murdered, the ting girl, Miranda Cosette, after her murder,
this guy takes a harpoon gun and threatens to shoot.
(10:31):
The woman builds a bub as I call her to
live in domestic gets called. Police come to a domrail
domestic relations attack. They get there, they arrest him. He
goes to jail on that and as soon as he
is out of his place, the neighbors an anonymous tip
from a neighbor comes in about Miranda. Once they thought
(10:55):
he was away and that they were safe, they immediately called.
And when you see, as I said, there's some like
a twenty three or four minute on YouTube. Then there's
a forty four minute the interview with the neighbor that
describes what happened, and I also revealed the name of
(11:17):
the judge that refuses trro Is on the forty four
minute one. And there's a whole interview with her about
living next to this guy and her fear, and finally,
of course she moved and another woman we've managed to
find also moved hastily, broke the least, just got out
of there because this guy was harassing them, stalking them,
(11:40):
and they were afraid of this guy. And then he
collides with a sixteen year old little girl.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Right, you can see it.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
And at thirty seven he's got a string of victims
in his path.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Oh yeah, he's got a rap sheet. He's got a
rap sheet at the EA. The immediate question is can
we convict him without a body? That's the immediate question.
I hate to see the state turned to codefendant testimony.
They may have to, but with this ring camera video
(12:15):
we got, they may not need to. And another thing,
I hope, hope, hope they've sent cadaverdogs to hit on
the trunk of that car to corroborate the video.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Right, agreed, Yes, then of course there's a possibility of
a tertiary crime scene where the body was dismembered, so that.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Will give us evidence as well. I mean, I don't
want him to get a gold star A plus because
he managed to get rid of the body.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Here's what's baffling. Crime scene you're talking about wasn't even
necessary where they're physically dismembering her to do that. It's
not necessary. That's just another level of evil. You're in Florida,
You've got a dead body in your car. How many
places could did you go and hide that body?
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Get rid of a million?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
A million?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I mean, if it hadn't been for red white, blue methane,
red blue with a can you remember them that happened
to see Gabby Petito's for a transit? We never found
her body.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Never, But they choose not to do that.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
They choose to go somewhere, get her out of the trunk,
torture her more, dismember her, place her back in the car,
and take her wherever they take her. But again, I'm
just saying that wasn't necessary.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
That was just more pure evil.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I think that they killed her in the home with
the keyball in her mouth. How they did that, I
don't know. Painful, awful. The girl was alive when that happened.
Miranda then wrapped her head and cell phane. Then they
took her body in full wrapped in blankets as you
(13:56):
can see on the video, put it in the vehicle.
Then they packed the crawl they're going on a picnic.
Then they leave, I don't know, probably stopped to drive
through on the way with the girl in the trunk,
the dead body in the trunk, then go to the
tertiary crime scene where they dismember the body. Don't know
(14:19):
where that happened yet, there are allegations yet to be proven.
But wherever they went, that could be a witness right there,
there could be a witness at that scene. Anyway, dismember
her body there and you know, the idiots left behind evidence.
Then they go dispose of her body either at a landfill,
(14:42):
a dump, or a waste of energy recycling, which means
she was incinerated. Now again, those waste to energies usually
have cameras. A lot of dumps have cameras, so hopefully
it will obtain da evidence from there. But I want
a witness because without a body, we're gonna need more.
(15:04):
You know, under our constitution, the interpretation of our constitution,
you cannot try a case based on a confession alone. No,
you have to have corroboration. So that's what I'm looking
for right now. Maybe the video could do that with
a dog also hitting on the trunk, a cadaver dog.
(15:25):
So we'll see what the State of Florida does. But
I mean if This is not a death penalty case.
I don't know what is a sixteen year old girl
the video when he's just casually walking to the car,
not even running, not even trying to hide.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
He is not in a hurry in the front yard,
in the front yard, in the front yard, in and
out of the house.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Like you said, they're just packing up to go on
a day trip, a little picnic.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Well, I thought of the way, you know, when you're
going to unload your car with groceries. He was going
about that speed. He put her in the car, shut
the trunk, walk just saunters back in. Oh yeah, if
you look at the we may have it in both
we may have it in both versions. But we also
got video of Maranda herself like dressed up for a date,
(16:14):
so cute. You know how the girls now they wear
a little midriff top with long sleeves and then they
wear big, baggy like sweatpants or I don't. They're certainly
not sweatpants as we know sweatpants, but they're like fashion sweatpants.
She had on these baggy little sweatpants from waist to
(16:35):
ankle and a long sleeve middriff top matching for her
quote date so cute, and we see her in the
front yard going into the house just before she's murdered.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
And let's talk about four days.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
So it's that four days she's got to go to
the bathroom, she's got at least maybe have a drink
of water.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
But between attacks, she's crying, she's begging, she's miserable. For
four days.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
They allow this repeated abuse, these repeated crimes, assaults, and
in between, when there's a down, there's a lull in
their abuse. They are still privy to this just tortured
(17:30):
child that they render no aid, no care, no concern,
and not one, but two people, possibly three people allow
it to happen. Four hours, eight hours, twenty four hours,
thirty six hours.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Seventy two hours. That's that's beyond the devil Nancy.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
You know what else, Sharyl, I keep thinking about she
didn't even have any parents to call out to know, God,
Elmody didn't even have a mom and dad and grandma.
You know, she didn't know what was going on. She
had nobody, nobody. I mean, this child, when I think
about it, I mean, it hurts me to think about it.
(18:17):
But we have to, Cheryl, because there has to be justice.
There has got to be justice, and they cannot be
rewarded because they got rid of the body.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Amen, that's what I'm screaming, Cheryl.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
I hate to leave you on that note, but guess
who's here, My sister from California to Brady Emick.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Lovely, y'all go and celebrate, and I'll tell you what, Nancy,
You're not gonna forget it.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
You're not gonna let this go. Oh No, that child
like her mama, and we will all stand with you.
So let's go fight.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Honey, help me, Cheryl, help me, help me get it
out there.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Amen, Let's do it. Love you, Love you to honey,
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