Corina Nobles on Life with Angela Nobles | Allison Foy's Murder, Part 4 - Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Y'all, if you miss last week's episode with District Attorney
Ben David, it would benefit you to go back and
listen to it. He is an incredible speaker, and he
lays the case out against Timothy, I and One beautifully.

(00:20):
He walks us through it, just like the mind of
a prosecutor would, succinctly and based on facts. My sister
Charlene and I have walked the same streets as Jack
the Ripper. We strolled the same streets as his victims.

(00:44):
We went at night, in the dark and fog, just
after midnight. White Chapel is still a red light district.
A hundred years later. I was amazed at how even
now sex workers are unseen, unnoticed, even purposely ignored by others. Now,

(01:05):
there are many reasons for this, and there's many reasons
they're selected by killers. One nobody's gonna care. Two, she
makes it easy to gain access to her. Three she
will go with you willingly, and nobody's gonna look twice.
Four nobody's gonna call the police. On April two, eight

(01:30):
skeletal remains were found off Carolina Beach Road in Wilmington,
North Carolina. It was soon even more horrifying and sinister
when it was discovered to be the remains of not one,
but two victims. Later, these victims were identified as Alison
Foy and Angela Nobles Rossing. Police could find no connection

(01:55):
in these two victims. They didn't know each other. They
didn't go to the same church, it's the same grocery store,
they didn't have the same friendship circle. They could find
nothing that these two victims had in common except where
they lived. The second victim in this case, Angela Noble Rossen,
I'm gonna tell you straight out, was a prostitute. I

(02:17):
had a prosecutor years ago. Tell me, if you don't
say it first, the jury will always think you've got
something to hide. We don't have anything to hide here.
This is just a fact about her life. It's one fact.
It's not her whole life. It's not all of who
she was. And I will tell you. In my forty years,
I've worked with many different police departments and sheriff's departments

(02:40):
and prosecutor offices. I've worked probation victim witness I have
never worked with one prostitute that was not first a victim.
Not once we got to visit with Lisa Valentino and
hear her talk about her sister Alison lovingly and just

(03:07):
with such a heartache steal. That bond she still has
with Alison is remarkable. And this week we get to
visit with Karna, the sister of Angela Rossa, and Karina
is gonna walk us through what their life was like.

(03:29):
Their life was very different than Lisa and Allison's, but
you still have that sister bond. If you remember, Alison
had some struggles, she moved to Wilmington's to try to
save her marriage. Angela had some struggles too. There was
some drug use, there was some dependency, she struggled with

(03:50):
that addiction, she struggled with personal relationships, She struggled with
being in and out of jail for different crimes. And
Angela rothen was a sex worker and because of that
increase the likelihood that she would meet someone that would
want to do her harm. In law enforcement, we look

(04:13):
at risk factors. Anytime we're doing a victimology. You certainly
sit down at one point and say, Okay, the risk
factors to this victim is our suspect. Pool broader are
more narrow. So, for example, if you are a third
grade teacher who was married with four children. You typically

(04:38):
go to work, you're at the school house all day,
then you might swing by the grocery store, and then
you're probably going straight home. Someone like Angela, she meets
all kinds of people that are mostly strangers or have
also been in and out of the criminal justice system.
So for Angela, she's gonna know drug dealers, she's gonna

(04:59):
know other sex workers, and she's going to know people
that seek those people out John's and drug addicts. So
Angela's life was much more at risk, her behavior much
more at risk than the teacher. I'm just trying to

(05:20):
paint the picture that for her and her life, she
wasn't more risk than Alison Foy. Now, Angela and Alison,
they didn't know each other. Law enforcement could never make
a connection where these two had even crossed paths briefly.
The two families could not put it together. There is

(05:42):
nothing that says they ever met even for a moment.
Even though they didn't know each other, it certainly would
suffice to say the killer knew them both, and the
killer came into contact with them both. We have the
opportunity to speak with a sister of Angela Nobles Rothin.

(06:03):
Angela was forty two years old, a mother, a sister,
and a daughter. Angela was last seen alive on June tenth,
two thousand seven. Karina, thank you so much for being
here and welcome to his own seven. Thank you. Now,
you and I have talked before, and you are one
of the most honest and open and carrying sisters I've

(06:26):
ever talked to. So I just want you to take
a minute and tell us about Angela. She was a
loving sister. She was a mother of three kids, two
sons and a daughter. She would give the shirt off
her back for anyone. She was just a happy person.

(06:48):
The last time I saw her was on her granddaughter's
third birthday party. I had left that day and I
didn't say bye tour or that I loved her, because
I thought I would see her again. I talked to
her about a week or two later, and that's the
last time I talked to her. Next thing I know

(07:10):
comes July and she's gone. She hadn't been missing, and
then in the oh eight her main her remains were found. Now,
when you first learned that she was missing, what were
your first thoughts. The last time I saw her was

(07:32):
on her granddaughter's third birthday party. I left that day.
I didn't say bye too, I didn't tell I loved her,
because I thought I would see her again. And about
a week later she had called me and I talked
to her. Next thing, I know, July, she had went missing,

(07:54):
and from what my family was telling me is I
had moved away and then oh eight roped around and
her remains were found. And when you first learned she
had gone missing, what was your first thought? To be honest,
I really didn't know what the thing because she was

(08:14):
always disappearing and then reappearing, and then momthed for a
birthday and their anniversary. She never called them like she
always did, and that's when we really knew something was wrong.
And patterns matter, people's habits matter, So when those patterns

(08:36):
are broken or those habits are broken, that's usually a
pretty good flag. And then, yes, now she had some
hard times, there's no question about it. Tell us about
a couple of them. She was into drugs, what draw
her drew her took the drugs I'll never notice, and
the prostitution she was in that so you don't know

(08:59):
anything in her background, any victimization in her background, what
made her do the drugs and the prostitution. I don't
never know, because I really want around. I had moved away,
okay for a little while, so when she was younger.
You don't know anything about her being assaulted or mistreated

(09:23):
or abused in any way. No, me, my don't. Would
it surprise you to learn that? Yes? Me, and it
would because I've never known her to be mistreated or anything.
Sometimes folks that don't do what I do for a living,

(09:44):
they don't really understand their community. And so I tell
them all the time, if you really want to know
what's going on in your community, see who was in
the jail. There's probably a whole lot more drug dealers
and gang members and say ex offenders then you think
there are. And you know, when you start talking about
these cases and people say, well, you know, I mean,

(10:09):
I know what you're trying to tell me, Cheryl, But
maybe her life was so risky because of things she
did and it was kind of on her. Let me
just stop you. I want you to think for a minute,
not about the sex worker, but the john. You think
about the man that gets in his car and drives

(10:30):
up and down the street and convinces a woman to
get into his car to perform some type of sexual
act for money, and then that man goes back to
his life. Every one of you, in your own separate state,
in your own city, has seen where they've done a
big prostitution sting. And every time they do it, they

(10:55):
tell you the highlights of the men that have been
charged as John's. Oh, and there might be a preacher
or a coach, a student, a construction worker, or a
businessman that I want you to think about. That that
sex worker Shane Hyde and new she is. She is

(11:16):
literally standing on the street corner. But those John's, they're tricky,
they're sneaky. They're gonna go into the dark shadows in
the back alleys and they're gonna do things two young girls,
two older women, every race, and it's gonna be sometimes

(11:39):
horrific and sometimes so sexually twisted you wouldn't believe it
if I told you. And then they're gonna go back
to quote their real life end quote where they're lying
to you. So I ask you who's the real criminal.
She wanted a better life, and she yes, she did.

(12:02):
She had gotten off the drugs and got clean, and
then she got back on on how long was she cleaned?
You know, maybe about a year. She wentn't clean very
long before she got back on on. That was ten
months before police would locate the remains that they believed
was Alison and Angela, and then it took several more

(12:23):
months to positively identify them. Did you know what you
heard there was some police activity that there was some
remains found. Did you feel like it was gonna be Angela?
Angela had false ta and she had accidentally dropped one
of them on the floor, and she super glued on back.
When she was murdered, she had this in her mouth,

(12:47):
and then we we all knew it was Angelo. I mean,
that's got to be one of the most unusual ways
to identify somebody I've ever heard. Now more information came
out later when we were able to do the autopsy.
So Angela's skull was fractured and bones in her face
were broken, and then the cause of death they determined

(13:09):
was because her throat had been cut. Now, Allison was
stabbed over forty times, and it appears that your sister
was also beaten. A straight edge weapon was used with
her as well, but they were treated slightly different. Do
you have any reason to understand why that might be.
Did the prosecutor or police ever tell you why she

(13:31):
might have been treated differently? No, ma'am, the police that's
never spoke to me the first time about this. You've
never talked to the police even today. No, ma'am. That
was one that that they have talked to is her
daughter and and my mom. Dad never wants contacted me

(13:53):
because you would think, I mean, the daughter is going
to have some information and the mom will have some information.
But that's sister bond. You would have information the two
of them wouldn't have in this case. There's only one suspect,
Timothy iron One. I mean, there is nobody else. There's
not another person that has surface that has any real

(14:14):
credence to them. But did your sister know him? Do
you know that? No, ma'am, I don't know she knew
him or not. If she did, she never said anything. Well,
he was known to do favors like give people a
ride somewhere for free if they would give him a

(14:35):
sexual favor. So I just didn't know what there has
crawls that you knew of for sure. How is her
daughter doing today? She seems to be doing pretty good.
How are you doing. I'm hanging in there, but I
still break down even now and then I have my
bad days and good days with it. What is your

(14:56):
fondest memory of Angela? It would have to beat She
loved Christmas. She always wanted to be home for Christmas.
She loved the holidays. I mean, she loved her family.
There were layers to her. I want people to absolutely
understand that when you hear what somebody does for a living,

(15:17):
you tend to think of them now in this box,
whether they're a CEO of a big corporation or a
sex worker. But there are layers to Angela. She was
a sister, she was a daughter, she was a mom. Yes,
she made my snake. She was not perfect. Well, honey,
I mean, if we were counting on people being perfect,

(15:40):
how many people be on this podcast? None? And come on,
I don't even want to go there and start listing
off stuff me and you shouldn't have done. But again,
I think having you be able to speak to what
she was like as a child, what she was like
as a teenager, what she was like as an adult,
what she was like as a mom. You're one of

(16:02):
the only people that can truly do that So if
you were to try to explain to a jury, this
is who this killer took from me? Who was she?
She was a wonderful sister. She she loved life. If
I needed to do anything, she was right there. And

(16:24):
she was a loving mother. She was wonderful, and I
can't understand why somebody was want want to take someone
else's life or take her life. I had a chance
to talk to Lisa Valentino and to distric attorney Ben David,
and we talked about the case. They recently were successful

(16:47):
in prosecuting timoth Day I one four and he got
forty eight years for rape. So he is now most
likely never going to see the light of day. So
I'm hoping that there's gonna be some folks that feel
safer to come forward and tell what they know. I

(17:08):
think there are people that he was incarcerated with that
have information. I think he's got friends that he would
go drinking with that's got information. I'd know in my
gut there are other victims out there, and I have
a feeling the same thing. I just pray that that
would come forward and tell the truth. Karna, is there

(17:29):
anything you want to be sure that we know about
the case or anything that you think needs to be
said that hasn't been said, Anything you haven't put out
there that people need to understand anything at all. I
just wish that that would come forward now that he's
locked up. They they can't do nothing else too long,

(17:52):
so that we can get closer for this. I can't
thank you enough for talking to me through the years
that I can't thank you enough for coming home today
so that we can all understand more about this case
and think about your sister and collectively try to think
of ways we can push this case forward other than

(18:14):
pleading for people to come forward. Thank you. You know, y'all.
I've talked to Karina over the years. She has been
steadfast in the fight to keep her sister's case alive,
and she was open and honest with me that it's

(18:34):
difficult to do because a lot of people don't want
to give her sister the same outreach or the same
compassion that they would what they might consider an innocent victim.
But the bottom line is what happened to Angela should
have never happened, regardless of what she did for a living,

(18:55):
no matter where she lived, no matter who she hung
out with, no matter who she befriended. Even if you're
a sex worker standing on a corner, you have every
right to survive that night. One thing Corna did she
got her sister, Jennifer Jackson, to also call me. And
when Jennifer and I we talking, a couple of things

(19:17):
struck me about Jennifer immediately, absolutely fearless. She would go
right now with me and kickings and doors if she could.
I just loved talking to her, and I loved the
energy that she put out as far as what she
hoped would happen with this case and what she personally
would do if she could. She also told me that

(19:40):
she knew Timothy I and one that she had accepted
rides from him, but then there was a night or
so he wanted a little more favor than she was
willing to give, and that's the last time she ever
food with him at all. She also mentioned that she
had never spoken to the disc attorney about anything that
she knew from back in the day. So I encouraged

(20:02):
her to reach out to Ben David. Even if it's
a small, you think, insignificant story, it's gonna do a
couple of things. It might solidify that hey I've heard
this same thing about this guy over and over and over. Well,
I don't think you hear it too many times. I
think everybody needs to know who he is and what

(20:25):
he is. That's how you start keeping people safe. Don't
help him hide. You know. I've been asked tell us
your thoughts on this case. My thought on this case
is knowing it and proving it or not the same thing.
If you were to ask me to put cash money
on a bed of who murdered Alison Foy and Angela Rothan,

(20:50):
I put a thousand dollars on Timothy ain One. Can
I prove it? No? Do I know it in my gut?
Do I know it in my heart? Do I know
it from all my years of experience and education? Yep?
But can I give Ben David anything right now that
he doesn't currently have to take it to court? No?

(21:12):
And that's where you come in. We need one witness.
We need his wife to come forward. She shouldn't be
afraid any longer. I've reached out to her, I've offered
to help her. I've told her he's never getting out again.
She doesn't have anything to fear from him ever. Again.

(21:35):
I know without hesitation he's bragged to somebody, an exhale
mate or a drinking buddy. There's no doubt in my
mind there are other victims out there. Remember how Ben
David got the last rape victim into court. They had
over five hundred rape gets and reports spread out, and

(21:59):
one female detective went through every single one slowly, and
she finally came upon one that had Timothy Ayanoni's name
in it, and the rape kid had never been tested.
It only takes one because that untested rape kit got

(22:20):
him forty five years to serve. That's one of those
things that when it happens, you're just high five and
everybody in the room. That's our super Bowl right there.
So my final thought is knowing it and proving it.
They're not the same thing. But it's not over, and

(22:41):
you get up and you go back to work, because again,
it only takes one. If you have any information on
who murdered Alison Foy and Angela Nobles Rothan, there's a
tipline three zero zero, contact the Wilmington's Police Department and

(23:02):
let them know what you know. It doesn't matter if
it's a little thing and you don't think it's significant,
let them decide whether or not it's significant. You may
have the information that could crack this case wide open.
If you don't want to contact law enforcement, contact the
Q Center, contact Zone seven, reach out to someone, whether

(23:24):
it's crime stoppers or anybody you trust. You can make
all calls anonymously, but let somebody know what you know, y'all.
I'm gonna end Zone seven like I always do, with
a quote from somebody from my Zone seven. Tonight's quote
comes from Beth Carris, former d A and TV commentator.

(23:47):
Find or create a platform to keep your case, your
story alive in the public conscious Trust and stay positive
that you will find a resolution. Always be truthful. I
want to thank Corina for coming on tonight and sharing

(24:09):
her truth. I know it's not easy, but it's much appreciated.
I'm Cheryl McCollum and this is Own seven.

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