November 22, 2025 • 26 mins
Two-time Emmy and three-time NAACP Image Award-winning television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Dexter B. Jenkins.
The uploaded document features an insightful conversation with Dexter B. Jenkins, a real estate entrepreneur, financial strategist, and pastor, on Money Making Conversations Masterclass hosted by Rashawn McDonald. Here’s a breakdown of the key topics and highlights:
Key Themes & Highlights
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Overcoming Fear in Real Estate
- Jenkins explains that fear is the biggest obstacle for first-time buyers.
- He emphasizes education and networking as tools to overcome fear.
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Faith & Financial Success
- He discusses the intersection of faith and wealth creation, referencing biblical principles.
- Jenkins highlights how faith can guide financial decisions and real estate investments.
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The Real Estate Wealth Creator Blueprint
- Jenkins shares his personal journey as a second-generation real estate investor.
- He outlines strategies for building wealth through real estate ownership.
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The Importance of Partnerships
- He stresses the value of teaming up with others to invest in real estate.
- Jenkins explains how clear roles and agreements can prevent conflicts in partnerships.
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Common Myths About Real Estate Investing
- He debunks the misconception that large amounts of money are required to invest.
- Jenkins highlights programs like VA loans and FHA loans that make real estate accessible.
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Financial Literacy & Generational Wealth
- He advocates for financial education to ensure wealth is preserved and passed down.
- Jenkins discusses mentorship and how learning from experienced investors can accelerate success.
About Dexter B. Jenkins
Dexter B. Jenkins is a faith-based financial mentor, pastor, and real estate investor. He is the author of The Real Estate Wealth Creator Blueprint, which provides strategies for overcoming fear, financial limitations, and inexperience in real estate. Through his work, Jenkins helps individuals build generational wealth by combining faith, financial literacy, and strategic investing.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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to me. Now let's get this show started. My guest
is a real estate entrepreneur, financial strategists, and host of
Less Talk real Estate. He's also the author I'm Telling
book with number one on Amazon on the real estate
and sales, The Real Estate Wealth Creator Blueprint Key's the
Overcoming Fear, lack of money, and inexperience to possess real estate.
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Speaker 2 (00:51):
Why did you have that?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Because I got that directly from the information you sent
to me. It's buying property, it's houses, there's lots of
empty Why would that be overcome and fear?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Well, because I think real estate is probably the in
most people's cases, is the largest purchase.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
They're ever going to make.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
So for the most part you're looking at I am
about to make a purchase for six hundred thousand dollars
and maybe I've never done it before. And so that's
why I believe fear is the biggest thing you tell
people overcome and you overcome that through education, you overcome
that through networking and things that nature. And so that's
why we attack fear first, because if you can get
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past the fear and purchase your first house, brother Sham,
I believe is life changing.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Okay, cool, We know you're religious man. You have a church, yes, sir,
you know you speak to them, and so faith has
a role in your life that every a person may
not have. But so I have to bring that up
first because a lot of people are conflicted with faith
and business. And I remember I asked Jelanda Adams about that.
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Is there a difference between faith and business? She said, Rishond,
they is the one and the same. So when I
have to ask you, Dexter B. Jenkins emphasize the role
of faith in real estate and wealth creation. Can you
elaborate on how faith intersects with financial success based on
your experience?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
What will go back to what you know? You mentioned?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Elanda Adams who I've never met, but I know I
was able and most people know who she is. Right,
she's right on point in that the only the only
people who separated faith and money were for people.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
God never did. So if you go to his Manual,
which for us.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Is the Bible, you know, but Jesus spoke more on
money than anything else. So from that perspective, there's no difference. Now,
I think a lot of times, you know, there have
been some misquoted scriptures, you know, one Timothy chapter six,
the money is the root of all evil, which the
scripture said the love of money. And then you know,
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you hear people talk about, you know, what does a
profit a man to gain the whole world and lose
his soul? And so and some of us, and those
are valid points. What God just wants you to keep
him first in everything that you do. So if you
keep him first, he has no problem. But when you
start talking about real estate. Real estate is a major
theme in the Bible, starting in Genesis chapter one, where
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where we see God is the original developer. He looks
out there and he sees darkness, and then what he
does is he speaks lighter. Then he begins to he spends,
he begins to develop.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I love him.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
And then you go and you look at you know,
he was sending Abraham to a land and then a
promise and then to did you they were going to
a land and so there's a major theme in the
Bible of the land. And so I was just trying
to pull that out in the scripture from scripture in
the book, that you know, God was the original developer,
and that you know, there should be no conflict with
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individuals with with with them desiring to own real estate
and then you know, obviously desiring to be spiritual on
whatever level.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Like obviously we said, we're coming from a Christian stancepoint.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Now you may have people who may not, or you
may not even who may not even you know that's
not an area of their life that they tend to
go after. But whatever it is, if you're looking at
your faith and even your just your your basic belief system,
I believe you have to let people understand that it's
okay to desire wealth. And that's why that's why I
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love what you do, because these classes are really getting
people to think, Okay, it's okay for me to do that.
And as long as I'm moral and ethical about it.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
It's all good, Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Your book, The Real Estate Wealth Creator Blueprint. What is
the purpose of that title, The Real Estate Wealth Creator Blueprint.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Well, because all success leaves clues, you know, you know,
and so there's a there's a blueprint that I followed.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I'm a second generation real estate investor. My dad was
a was a guy who grew up in a small
town called Saint Stephen, South Carolina, and then migrated up
to New Haven, Connecticut, where he was a barber for
sixty years. But dad always taught me the importance of
owning where you live, in owning where you have your business.
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Got it sub state? Yeah, yeah, so that's real estate.
So you know, the house I grew up in, you know,
from the time I was eight to the time I
still own now because I inherited that house, we still
own that. It's a two family There's another commercial property
that he left for me that he worked out of
for part twenty five years or so, and so, you know,
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so that was my blueprint and so what I desired
to do, and then my wife and I have followed suits.
So since twenty sixteen, I mean, we've been involved in
millions of dollars of real estate transactions.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
And so what we have.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Done is laid out the blueprint that I really got
from my dad and other successful people who have leveraged
real estate to build wealth.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Okay, if we build wealth, sometimes you may not have
the money, right, so you need to team up. Let's
talk about that team, Dexter. That's that team, because you
talk about it in the book, because a lot of
people that's part of the fear too, like you said,
not being able to afford the dream. How does one
put that team together and moving forward so it won't
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later on get into any arguments about you owe me this,
you owe me this, I did all the work.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Talk about that, Dexter. Well, I will say this, there
is no full proof way to.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Say things wi't happen down the line, right, you know,
to think about marriage, you know, people all we all
come to the altar, you know, with the right mindset
of to death do us part, and then stuff happened,
you know. And so I just think in any time
when two people come together or even sometimes even more,
you can't guarantee that. But I do think what help
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happens is if you could do some vetting on the
front end.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I found brother Seana.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
People who have gotten in trouble with partnerships is this first,
let's go back to even to even some people are
even afraid to partner because for the most part, we've
been trained to work independently, and particularly at our people.
I'm talking about black and brown folk, and there's a
lack of trust there. But you recognize you can get
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more done through partnerships. You know, you and I are
building partnerships and talking and other people don't build a
partnership with Well, we can do more together, and so
you So you got to break through that fear of partnerships.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Even entering into it.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
And then when you enter into a partnership, I believe
the most important thing you have to do partnerships if
you have to.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You have to have clarity who's doing what.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
So if I'm entering into a real estate transaction, so
maybe I don't have the time, but I have the money,
Well maybe I don't have the money, but I got
the time, or I have the connections. And so I
think the clearer you can be with who's gonna do
what in your partnership and then watch this if things
break down, what do we do right, because that has
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to be spelled out too, because obviously we going into
a believing that it's going to work with just like a marriage.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You know, you you went down I believe it.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
You stood in front of somebody like me and said
I do and you and when I said till death
do you part?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
You believed it. But then it didn't go like that way.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
And so I think you have to you have to
have a contingency plan for when things don't go right,
and that has to be spelled out of writing.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Let me ask you this because I got that. You know,
I grew up with my parents did buy their first
homes or a two bedroom shotgun house, and they sold
that and got a two bedroom house and still nine kids,
but we all got in there, you know. But it
was owned by my mom and dad owned it, owned
it real estate. That's why I want to keep saying
the word real estate because a lot of people are
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confused about what exactly is real estate. And I guess
you said it from a biblical standpoint, dextra what real
estate is. But but breaking down to people about what
is real estate? The vacant lot, the old yeah, the house.
But I almost steal your thunder. But talk about what
is real estate?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Well you you you said to me real estate.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I mean I brought it down to the to what
you've already said, it's a land. Now that it is land,
I gotta decide how I'm what am I gonna put
on the land.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
So it could be a that you said, a two
bedroom house.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
It could be a parking lot, it could be it
could be a shock, it could be a barn, so anything.
So I define real estate as this first of all land,
and then you you anything that you can put on
it to monetize it. Right, So so sometimes it's gonna
be a three family house, sometimes it's gonna be a six.
You sometimes it's gonna be a commercial property that you
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can put a major store in. And so anything that
we can monetize, or sometime I sometimes the land I
can I can farm it, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
So there's just a lot of different ways that you know.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
That owning it is the key, and that's what the
basis of this book.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Owning is the key.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
And then watch there's finding out how to monetize because
I know a lot of them, but I know a
number of people who have things but don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
How to monetize it, right, right?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
And look good is it if you don't know how
to monetize it? So what I want to do is
I want to make sure brother Sean, two things happen
that when I have some land I put either I
learned how to monetize it, so it produces two things,
number one cash flow.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
And number two appreciation.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Cool, Well, let's talk about that. Let's talk about some
of the common myths of mixed conceptions by real estate investing,
because I don't know what could be a misconception, you know,
But again, this is what you do, right, I'm an interviewer.
You are the subject matter expert. Please tell us what
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misconceptions a myths that people run from, because I would
just tell you this. You know, we talk about faith,
we talk about fear, we talk about money. Okay, those
are three things that if they don't come together, if
you don't overcome that fear, you don't have the money.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I don't care how much faith you have.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Real estate's not going to be purchased. So when you
talk about myths that are common and misconceptions, what are
some of them when it comes to investing in real estate.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I find the biggest one is that people think think
they need a lot of money to do it. Wow,
that's the biggest one. And there are some programs. Actually,
I was talking to my godson yesterday. He lives in
the Virginia, DC area, and so he called me. He
said hey, Uh, he said hey, he called me uncle, Hey, Uncle, Dexter.
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You know, I'm a I'm a veteran and uh, I
got a v A loan that I haven't taken advantage of. Now,
if you don't think about a v A loan, a
V loan, a v A loan allows you to get
into a piece of property.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
With no money down.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
And he was saying a lot of people, he said,
a lot of my friends have taken advantage of the
v A loan and I'm trying to figure out how
to do it. And I said, man, there are a
lot of ways, So I'm gonna walk them through that.
But my point being is a lot of times we
haven't even taken the time to do the research to
find out what what what can I get into a
property for?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
So that's on the VIA side.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
But then there's also FHA loans where you could get
in for as little as three percent down, and their
lenders who will sometimes they will even give you the
down payment. And so the biggest thing I find is
that most people think that it takes tons of money
to get involved, and it doesn't. It just takes you
thinking strategically. And then number two, I believe in fact,
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actually number one is this. It takes you believing it's possible. Right,
that's one. Then number two it becomes now you you
begin to think strategically about, Okay, how am I gonna
get this done?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
So? Is it partnerships? Is it me looking at looking at.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Grants and things that I can get involved in? Well,
they well they will. Smaller banks, you know, a great
resource for people in their communities is tapping into community
banks because they a lot of times they keep they
have they have what they called portfolio loans, and a
portfolio loan simply means that what they do is they
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have set aside a certain amount of money that they're
going to lend out and they're going to keep it.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
They're not gonna sell it.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
And so what happens is that a lot of time
they'll be able to give you a lot more money
for down payments, which will allow you to begin to invest.
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Speaker 2 (13:44):
Ye I'm talking to Dexter B.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Jenkins. He's the author of his new book, The Real
Estate Wealth Creative Blueprint.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Now it's called balancing.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Okay, you can go out there and just start buying, buying,
buying what you have to realize that taxes.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Come with the lane, access, insurance, maintenance, all.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
That is part of the game. Come on now, come
on now, and it's called balancing.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
You know, we don't want to just have people run
out there thinking that all about this, about this, by
this gotta be insured. You know, if you don't take
care of the property, then guess what the neighborhood association
might be coming after you, the city may be coming
after you. Okay, how does one take that property, especially,
let's look at it if it's a real estate purchase
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of a home and turning that into an investment, maybe
a rental home property or buying up the block. Let's
talk about a little bit about that, because that's how
a lot of people, especially the African American the people
of color, are rising up in the economic ladder because
they are making purchases of homes, flipping them or renovating
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them and turning them into monthly fees.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
They create income for them. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah, but but I think that and that's I mean,
there are a number of different strategies. So some people
do what you say. You know, I'm I flipped a
number of houses my wife and that that was out
and we still do. That was one of my main
strategies getting started. So we do have buy and whole
properties where you know, we went and actually bought a property,
uh two or three of them actually and you know,
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fix them up and then.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Now we have rent off.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
And so if really, when I'm talking people about investing,
you have to decide what you really want real estate
investing to produce for you. That's number one. Number two,
you got to decide do you want to and be
an active investor or a passive investor? Now what's an
active investor and an active investor someone who like myself who.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Goes out and flips buys and holes and all that.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
A passive investor someone who look, I ain't got time
for all that, they'll have time or the desire to
do right and so, but they have cash. And so
what they'll do is they'll they'll they'll put money in
someone's hands to go ahead and be an investor.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
And actually that's a phenomenal way.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
For people who don't have a lot of time who
listen to us, Hey, look, I want to get involved
in real estate, but I don't have a lot of time.
Maybe you know, they got maybe their high income earner
doing whatever they do. Maybe they got family obligations, maybe
they taking care of a parent or whatever. They don't
have a lot of time in the hands, but they
do have cash. And so what you can do is
you can deploy your money in the real estate while
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you're doing those other things.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Got it.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
So number one, I got to decide what real estate want,
what I want real estate to produce me to the
number two. I want to, you know, decide what I
want to be active and passive. And then number three
what I gotta do is I gotta decide what strategy
I'm a user? Am I gonna be one who fixing flips.
Am I gonna buy it hole, or I'm gonna help
other people do it, you know. So it really just
depends on what where you are. So there is no
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one set way of doing it. And this is what
I believe. Sometimes you have to go one strategy and
find out, you know what, I don't like this, you know,
you gotta do. I don't like this, so I'm gonna
try this, you know. And so that's that's what I
advise people to do.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
You know. When I was reading the book, in your book,
which is newly published, the Real Estate Wealth Creative Blueprint,
financial literacy kept popping up, popping up, you know, because
in the sense that that's important. I'm just telling everybody,
we all want you to be wealthy, we all want
you to buy real estate, but we don't want you
to make a mistake. We don't want you to miss steps.
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Like you said, Rushan, I said taxes. You reminded me
about insurance, you know, I say an insurance. You reminded
me about property. Yes, okay, So it keeps moving along.
Before we get to financial literacy, the word mentorship are
mentoring pops up because again I'm a pretty smart dude.
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I've been very successful. But even in this interview I
forgot some things. How important is mentorship? And you talk
about it in your book in the Blueprint.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
It's priceless, Meaning everything in everything you've a compist, everything
I've a scomplished has been because I've had mentors say so. So,
whether it's an official mentor so sometimes it's a book.
So it doesn't necessarily mean I even know you personally.
I may have never met you, but I've read your book.
I'm entering into a mentoring relationship, meaning there's an exchange
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of information that helps me to grow correct. So but
but I mean I've I've had paid mentors, I've had
unofficial mentors.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
You know, you and I abild relationship.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I mean, so you're certain as a mentor man in
respects to me and in this media stuff, you know,
And so it's just and in anything in life. I mean,
I'm my my background, brother, Sean, is that of an athlete.
See I look at mentoring and it's like coaching. I
was a basketball player, so every so every team I
played on, there was like what a coach? And so
the coach was the one who was instructing us and
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teaching us on how to do what we need to
do in order to reach whatever goal we need to reach.
So and this money making real estate thing. The reason
why I talk so much about financial literacy is because
if you make it, the goal is to keep it right.
It ain't just seeuse. Really, what we want to do
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is we want to earn it. We want to keep
it watch, we want to pass it on right because
we want this multi generational welfare, you know, So why
should every generation have to have to start over?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I don't think that's the case.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Well, if we teach people how to become financially literate, right,
it allows them to be able to not knowledge to
enjoy it for themselves. But how can we enjoy this thing?
Two and three and four and five generations down line?
So many many many years from now, when you and
I are not here, our great great grandchildren are benefiting
off of something that we did.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Now, young people, old people, I'm gonna tell you something.
If you're fifty, please listen to this conversation. If you're sixty,
please listen to this conversation. If you seventy, please listen
this conversation. We're talking to YouTube. We're not just talking
to twenty years old and thirty old and forty old
people the opportunity to still build your wealth and also
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create a foundation that you can pass to your relatives,
pass to your.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Your peer group.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
It's important that you understand that there's never too late
to get in the real estate game. But but, but,
but there's always a butt in this conversation.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
You can be overwhelmed.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Getting into the real estate game. And you talk about
that in your book, and I think that's very important,
is to how do you get in Dexter and not
be overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Well, it starts with education.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
You know when I'm not for me because I've grown
up around My dad was my first mentor. I wouldn't
have called him that, but just looking at his life,
he was. And then I started searching the other mantons.
And one of the things I talked about in the
book is there's something called READS which stands for real
estate or social right now.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
But our ei A. You can look it up your
in your local area.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
There are tons of them, and you know, they are
local meetings that you could go to for Some have feeds,
some don't, and you can just go and start sitting
in and getting the education.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
You can pick up a book, you know, like obtusly
pick up my pick up my book.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
But you know, so it starts with that process and
then get around some people who are doing that. You know,
this is what I found, And this is one of
the things one of the mistakes I think people don't make.
Go find somebody who's doing what you're doing and offer
to serve them. Say look, hey, I want to learn
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this real estate game.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I know how to do X, Y and Z.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Hey look I'll drive you around if you need if
need be, but I just need to be around so
I can get a sense of how this thing works.
And then once people get around it, you know, I
just think after a point in time, you will. In
the book, one thing I talk about this thing called courage.
I talk about courage being something that's cultivated, encourage, something
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that can be passed down. So you hang around courageous people,
it rubs off on you.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
As we close out the interview, Dexter, you focus on
creating generational wealth. That's words, it's passed around the world,
generational wealth. And you can't get that work in afore
They all week job No, but you can't get it
by what you are talking about in your book. Tell
us how families can gain generational wealth. It is real estate,
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but follow your advice. That's why I have you on
the shelf. Yeah, talk to us. Well.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I think, first of all, let's look at generational wealth
being more than just money. It's a lot of things.
Now we're talking money because this is the topic. But
I think the a wealthy mindset is something that needs
to be passed down. First of all, that's the first thing,
meaning that my dad passed that out of recognize, but
he passed that down to me. I inherited that that
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was generational, but he got that from his father, you know.
So I think the mindset first of all, and then
as the mindsets passed down, then you begin brother Sean
to find out the different avenues are doing it, because
real estate is not the only avenue of doing that.
Some people don't do no real estate, but they have
a business or some people have stocks. So it doesn't
matter the asset class. You just need one, and you
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need one that will allow you to create this thing.
Call leverage and talk a lot about my book about
their power of the importance of having the leverage, because
what leverage does. It allows you to make more money
with less effort. And so more so, it's the mindset.
It's the having the people come together to work together
to get something done, and then now we can we
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can pass it on to the next generation. Now watch this,
because I heard bishey Jake said TDJA said this years ago.
He said, it's now only important what you leave to them,
it's also what you leave in them. So I don't
want to leave my son and my grandson a whole
bunch of money and they gonna go there and kill
themselves because I haven't put the right morals in there.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
And the right beliefs in them. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Because I am a pastor, I'm a descripture. It says
in Proverbs chapter wanted to talk about prosperity ruins the
fool right, So if somebody's foolish, their money would kill them,
you know. And so it has to be a mixture
of the right the materials. But then also recognize that,
hey man, there's some things there, some ways I got
to teach you how to live so that this money
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don't kill you.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
As always, your book is fascinating from a standpoint of
we drive around communities, we see open lots, we see
rundown houses, we see houses that we may feel we
can never afford, but they all are real estate.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yes, sure, and.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
That's what this conversation from a Jump is about. Opening
your eyes to financial gains that you are passing by
every day. Get with your friends, get with your families,
pool money and you can can get into game. And
it's not a game that you can technically start by yourself.
So to get that out your mind, you may need
help and help us through. Like you said, vetting people,
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everybody understanding writing down in a contract, none of the
handshake stuff. I'm talking about money. Get it right and
you can start winning in the game of real estate.
And in his book The Real Estate Wealth Creative Blueprint
next to be Jenkins. As usual, you give my show credibility.
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is a real estate entrepreneur, financial strategists, and host of
Less Talk real Estate. He's also the author I'm Telling
book with number one on Amazon on the real estate
and sales, The Real Estate Wealth Creator Blueprint Key's the
Overcoming Fear, lack of money, and inexperience to possess real estate.
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Please work with the Money Making Conversation Masterclass exter B Jenkins.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Why did you have that?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Because I got that directly from the information you sent
to me. It's buying property, it's houses, there's lots of
empty Why would that be overcome and fear?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Well, because I think real estate is probably the in
most people's cases, is the largest purchase.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
They're ever going to make.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
So for the most part you're looking at I am
about to make a purchase for six hundred thousand dollars
and maybe I've never done it before. And so that's
why I believe fear is the biggest thing you tell
people overcome and you overcome that through education, you overcome
that through networking and things that nature. And so that's
why we attack fear first, because if you can get
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past the fear and purchase your first house, brother Sham,
I believe is life changing.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Okay, cool, We know you're religious man. You have a church, yes, sir,
you know you speak to them, and so faith has
a role in your life that every a person may
not have. But so I have to bring that up
first because a lot of people are conflicted with faith
and business. And I remember I asked Jelanda Adams about that.
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Is there a difference between faith and business? She said, Rishond,
they is the one and the same. So when I
have to ask you, Dexter B. Jenkins emphasize the role
of faith in real estate and wealth creation. Can you
elaborate on how faith intersects with financial success based on
your experience?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
What will go back to what you know? You mentioned?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Elanda Adams who I've never met, but I know I
was able and most people know who she is. Right,
she's right on point in that the only the only
people who separated faith and money were for people.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
God never did. So if you go to his Manual,
which for us.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Is the Bible, you know, but Jesus spoke more on
money than anything else. So from that perspective, there's no difference. Now,
I think a lot of times, you know, there have
been some misquoted scriptures, you know, one Timothy chapter six,
the money is the root of all evil, which the
scripture said the love of money. And then you know,
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you hear people talk about, you know, what does a
profit a man to gain the whole world and lose
his soul? And so and some of us, and those
are valid points. What God just wants you to keep
him first in everything that you do. So if you
keep him first, he has no problem. But when you
start talking about real estate. Real estate is a major
theme in the Bible, starting in Genesis chapter one, where
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where we see God is the original developer. He looks
out there and he sees darkness, and then what he
does is he speaks lighter. Then he begins to he spends,
he begins to develop.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I love him.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
And then you go and you look at you know,
he was sending Abraham to a land and then a
promise and then to did you they were going to
a land and so there's a major theme in the
Bible of the land. And so I was just trying
to pull that out in the scripture from scripture in
the book, that you know, God was the original developer,
and that you know, there should be no conflict with
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individuals with with with them desiring to own real estate
and then you know, obviously desiring to be spiritual on
whatever level.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Like obviously we said, we're coming from a Christian stancepoint.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Now you may have people who may not, or you
may not even who may not even you know that's
not an area of their life that they tend to
go after. But whatever it is, if you're looking at
your faith and even your just your your basic belief system,
I believe you have to let people understand that it's
okay to desire wealth. And that's why that's why I
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love what you do, because these classes are really getting
people to think, Okay, it's okay for me to do that.
And as long as I'm moral and ethical about it.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
It's all good, Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Your book, The Real Estate Wealth Creator Blueprint. What is
the purpose of that title, The Real Estate Wealth Creator Blueprint.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Well, because all success leaves clues, you know, you know,
and so there's a there's a blueprint that I followed.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I'm a second generation real estate investor. My dad was
a was a guy who grew up in a small
town called Saint Stephen, South Carolina, and then migrated up
to New Haven, Connecticut, where he was a barber for
sixty years. But dad always taught me the importance of
owning where you live, in owning where you have your business.
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Got it sub state? Yeah, yeah, so that's real estate.
So you know, the house I grew up in, you know,
from the time I was eight to the time I
still own now because I inherited that house, we still
own that. It's a two family There's another commercial property
that he left for me that he worked out of
for part twenty five years or so, and so, you know,
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so that was my blueprint and so what I desired
to do, and then my wife and I have followed suits.
So since twenty sixteen, I mean, we've been involved in
millions of dollars of real estate transactions.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
And so what we have.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Done is laid out the blueprint that I really got
from my dad and other successful people who have leveraged
real estate to build wealth.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Okay, if we build wealth, sometimes you may not have
the money, right, so you need to team up. Let's
talk about that team, Dexter. That's that team, because you
talk about it in the book, because a lot of
people that's part of the fear too, like you said,
not being able to afford the dream. How does one
put that team together and moving forward so it won't
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later on get into any arguments about you owe me this,
you owe me this, I did all the work.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Talk about that, Dexter. Well, I will say this, there
is no full proof way to.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Say things wi't happen down the line, right, you know,
to think about marriage, you know, people all we all
come to the altar, you know, with the right mindset
of to death do us part, and then stuff happened,
you know. And so I just think in any time
when two people come together or even sometimes even more,
you can't guarantee that. But I do think what help
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happens is if you could do some vetting on the
front end.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I found brother Seana.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
People who have gotten in trouble with partnerships is this first,
let's go back to even to even some people are
even afraid to partner because for the most part, we've
been trained to work independently, and particularly at our people.
I'm talking about black and brown folk, and there's a
lack of trust there. But you recognize you can get
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more done through partnerships. You know, you and I are
building partnerships and talking and other people don't build a
partnership with Well, we can do more together, and so
you So you got to break through that fear of partnerships.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Even entering into it.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
And then when you enter into a partnership, I believe
the most important thing you have to do partnerships if
you have to.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You have to have clarity who's doing what.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
So if I'm entering into a real estate transaction, so
maybe I don't have the time, but I have the money,
Well maybe I don't have the money, but I got
the time, or I have the connections. And so I
think the clearer you can be with who's gonna do
what in your partnership and then watch this if things
break down, what do we do right, because that has
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to be spelled out too, because obviously we going into
a believing that it's going to work with just like a marriage.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You know, you you went down I believe it.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
You stood in front of somebody like me and said
I do and you and when I said till death
do you part?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
You believed it. But then it didn't go like that way.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
And so I think you have to you have to
have a contingency plan for when things don't go right,
and that has to be spelled out of writing.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Let me ask you this because I got that. You know,
I grew up with my parents did buy their first
homes or a two bedroom shotgun house, and they sold
that and got a two bedroom house and still nine kids,
but we all got in there, you know. But it
was owned by my mom and dad owned it, owned
it real estate. That's why I want to keep saying
the word real estate because a lot of people are
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confused about what exactly is real estate. And I guess
you said it from a biblical standpoint, dextra what real
estate is. But but breaking down to people about what
is real estate? The vacant lot, the old yeah, the house.
But I almost steal your thunder. But talk about what
is real estate?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Well you you you said to me real estate.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I mean I brought it down to the to what
you've already said, it's a land. Now that it is land,
I gotta decide how I'm what am I gonna put
on the land.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
So it could be a that you said, a two
bedroom house.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
It could be a parking lot, it could be it
could be a shock, it could be a barn, so anything.
So I define real estate as this first of all land,
and then you you anything that you can put on
it to monetize it. Right, So so sometimes it's gonna
be a three family house, sometimes it's gonna be a six.
You sometimes it's gonna be a commercial property that you
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can put a major store in. And so anything that
we can monetize, or sometime I sometimes the land I
can I can farm it, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
So there's just a lot of different ways that you know.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
That owning it is the key, and that's what the
basis of this book.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Owning is the key.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
And then watch there's finding out how to monetize because
I know a lot of them, but I know a
number of people who have things but don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
How to monetize it, right, right?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
And look good is it if you don't know how
to monetize it? So what I want to do is
I want to make sure brother Sean, two things happen
that when I have some land I put either I
learned how to monetize it, so it produces two things,
number one cash flow.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
And number two appreciation.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Cool, Well, let's talk about that. Let's talk about some
of the common myths of mixed conceptions by real estate investing,
because I don't know what could be a misconception, you know,
But again, this is what you do, right, I'm an interviewer.
You are the subject matter expert. Please tell us what
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misconceptions a myths that people run from, because I would
just tell you this. You know, we talk about faith,
we talk about fear, we talk about money. Okay, those
are three things that if they don't come together, if
you don't overcome that fear, you don't have the money.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I don't care how much faith you have.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Real estate's not going to be purchased. So when you
talk about myths that are common and misconceptions, what are
some of them when it comes to investing in real estate.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I find the biggest one is that people think think
they need a lot of money to do it. Wow,
that's the biggest one. And there are some programs. Actually,
I was talking to my godson yesterday. He lives in
the Virginia, DC area, and so he called me. He
said hey, Uh, he said hey, he called me uncle, Hey, Uncle, Dexter.
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You know, I'm a I'm a veteran and uh, I
got a v A loan that I haven't taken advantage of. Now,
if you don't think about a v A loan, a
V loan, a v A loan allows you to get
into a piece of property.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
With no money down.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
And he was saying a lot of people, he said,
a lot of my friends have taken advantage of the
v A loan and I'm trying to figure out how
to do it. And I said, man, there are a
lot of ways, So I'm gonna walk them through that.
But my point being is a lot of times we
haven't even taken the time to do the research to
find out what what what can I get into a
property for?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
So that's on the VIA side.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
But then there's also FHA loans where you could get
in for as little as three percent down, and their
lenders who will sometimes they will even give you the
down payment. And so the biggest thing I find is
that most people think that it takes tons of money
to get involved, and it doesn't. It just takes you
thinking strategically. And then number two, I believe in fact,
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actually number one is this. It takes you believing it's possible. Right,
that's one. Then number two it becomes now you you
begin to think strategically about, Okay, how am I gonna
get this done?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
So? Is it partnerships? Is it me looking at looking at.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Grants and things that I can get involved in? Well,
they well they will. Smaller banks, you know, a great
resource for people in their communities is tapping into community
banks because they a lot of times they keep they
have they have what they called portfolio loans, and a
portfolio loan simply means that what they do is they
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have set aside a certain amount of money that they're
going to lend out and they're going to keep it.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
They're not gonna sell it.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
And so what happens is that a lot of time
they'll be able to give you a lot more money
for down payments, which will allow you to begin to invest.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
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Speaker 2 (13:44):
Ye I'm talking to Dexter B.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Jenkins. He's the author of his new book, The Real
Estate Wealth Creative Blueprint.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Now it's called balancing.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Okay, you can go out there and just start buying, buying,
buying what you have to realize that taxes.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Come with the lane, access, insurance, maintenance, all.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
That is part of the game. Come on now, come
on now, and it's called balancing.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
You know, we don't want to just have people run
out there thinking that all about this, about this, by
this gotta be insured. You know, if you don't take
care of the property, then guess what the neighborhood association
might be coming after you, the city may be coming
after you. Okay, how does one take that property, especially,
let's look at it if it's a real estate purchase
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of a home and turning that into an investment, maybe
a rental home property or buying up the block. Let's
talk about a little bit about that, because that's how
a lot of people, especially the African American the people
of color, are rising up in the economic ladder because
they are making purchases of homes, flipping them or renovating
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them and turning them into monthly fees.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
They create income for them. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah, but but I think that and that's I mean,
there are a number of different strategies. So some people
do what you say. You know, I'm I flipped a
number of houses my wife and that that was out
and we still do. That was one of my main
strategies getting started. So we do have buy and whole
properties where you know, we went and actually bought a property,
uh two or three of them actually and you know,
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fix them up and then.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Now we have rent off.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
And so if really, when I'm talking people about investing,
you have to decide what you really want real estate
investing to produce for you. That's number one. Number two,
you got to decide do you want to and be
an active investor or a passive investor? Now what's an
active investor and an active investor someone who like myself who.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Goes out and flips buys and holes and all that.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
A passive investor someone who look, I ain't got time
for all that, they'll have time or the desire to
do right and so, but they have cash. And so
what they'll do is they'll they'll they'll put money in
someone's hands to go ahead and be an investor.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
And actually that's a phenomenal way.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
For people who don't have a lot of time who
listen to us, Hey, look, I want to get involved
in real estate, but I don't have a lot of time.
Maybe you know, they got maybe their high income earner
doing whatever they do. Maybe they got family obligations, maybe
they taking care of a parent or whatever. They don't
have a lot of time in the hands, but they
do have cash. And so what you can do is
you can deploy your money in the real estate while
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you're doing those other things.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Got it.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
So number one, I got to decide what real estate want,
what I want real estate to produce me to the
number two. I want to, you know, decide what I
want to be active and passive. And then number three
what I gotta do is I gotta decide what strategy
I'm a user? Am I gonna be one who fixing flips.
Am I gonna buy it hole, or I'm gonna help
other people do it, you know. So it really just
depends on what where you are. So there is no
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one set way of doing it. And this is what
I believe. Sometimes you have to go one strategy and
find out, you know what, I don't like this, you know,
you gotta do. I don't like this, so I'm gonna
try this, you know. And so that's that's what I
advise people to do.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
You know. When I was reading the book, in your book,
which is newly published, the Real Estate Wealth Creative Blueprint,
financial literacy kept popping up, popping up, you know, because
in the sense that that's important. I'm just telling everybody,
we all want you to be wealthy, we all want
you to buy real estate, but we don't want you
to make a mistake. We don't want you to miss steps.
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Like you said, Rushan, I said taxes. You reminded me
about insurance, you know, I say an insurance. You reminded
me about property. Yes, okay, So it keeps moving along.
Before we get to financial literacy, the word mentorship are
mentoring pops up because again I'm a pretty smart dude.
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I've been very successful. But even in this interview I
forgot some things. How important is mentorship? And you talk
about it in your book in the Blueprint.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
It's priceless, Meaning everything in everything you've a compist, everything
I've a scomplished has been because I've had mentors say so. So,
whether it's an official mentor so sometimes it's a book.
So it doesn't necessarily mean I even know you personally.
I may have never met you, but I've read your book.
I'm entering into a mentoring relationship, meaning there's an exchange
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of information that helps me to grow correct. So but
but I mean I've I've had paid mentors, I've had
unofficial mentors.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
You know, you and I abild relationship.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I mean, so you're certain as a mentor man in
respects to me and in this media stuff, you know,
And so it's just and in anything in life. I mean,
I'm my my background, brother, Sean, is that of an athlete.
See I look at mentoring and it's like coaching. I
was a basketball player, so every so every team I
played on, there was like what a coach? And so
the coach was the one who was instructing us and
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teaching us on how to do what we need to
do in order to reach whatever goal we need to reach.
So and this money making real estate thing. The reason
why I talk so much about financial literacy is because
if you make it, the goal is to keep it right.
It ain't just seeuse. Really, what we want to do
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is we want to earn it. We want to keep
it watch, we want to pass it on right because
we want this multi generational welfare, you know, So why
should every generation have to have to start over?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I don't think that's the case.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Well, if we teach people how to become financially literate, right,
it allows them to be able to not knowledge to
enjoy it for themselves. But how can we enjoy this thing?
Two and three and four and five generations down line?
So many many many years from now, when you and
I are not here, our great great grandchildren are benefiting
off of something that we did.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Now, young people, old people, I'm gonna tell you something.
If you're fifty, please listen to this conversation. If you're sixty,
please listen to this conversation. If you seventy, please listen
this conversation. We're talking to YouTube. We're not just talking
to twenty years old and thirty old and forty old
people the opportunity to still build your wealth and also
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create a foundation that you can pass to your relatives,
pass to your.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Your peer group.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
It's important that you understand that there's never too late
to get in the real estate game. But but, but,
but there's always a butt in this conversation.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
You can be overwhelmed.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Getting into the real estate game. And you talk about
that in your book, and I think that's very important,
is to how do you get in Dexter and not
be overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Well, it starts with education.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
You know when I'm not for me because I've grown
up around My dad was my first mentor. I wouldn't
have called him that, but just looking at his life,
he was. And then I started searching the other mantons.
And one of the things I talked about in the
book is there's something called READS which stands for real
estate or social right now.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
But our ei A. You can look it up your
in your local area.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
There are tons of them, and you know, they are
local meetings that you could go to for Some have feeds,
some don't, and you can just go and start sitting
in and getting the education.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
You can pick up a book, you know, like obtusly
pick up my pick up my book.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
But you know, so it starts with that process and
then get around some people who are doing that. You know,
this is what I found, And this is one of
the things one of the mistakes I think people don't make.
Go find somebody who's doing what you're doing and offer
to serve them. Say look, hey, I want to learn
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this real estate game.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I know how to do X, Y and Z.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Hey look I'll drive you around if you need if
need be, but I just need to be around so
I can get a sense of how this thing works.
And then once people get around it, you know, I
just think after a point in time, you will. In
the book, one thing I talk about this thing called courage.
I talk about courage being something that's cultivated, encourage, something
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that can be passed down. So you hang around courageous people,
it rubs off on you.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
As we close out the interview, Dexter, you focus on
creating generational wealth. That's words, it's passed around the world,
generational wealth. And you can't get that work in afore
They all week job No, but you can't get it
by what you are talking about in your book. Tell
us how families can gain generational wealth. It is real estate,
(22:31):
but follow your advice. That's why I have you on
the shelf. Yeah, talk to us. Well.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I think, first of all, let's look at generational wealth
being more than just money. It's a lot of things.
Now we're talking money because this is the topic. But
I think the a wealthy mindset is something that needs
to be passed down. First of all, that's the first thing,
meaning that my dad passed that out of recognize, but
he passed that down to me. I inherited that that
(22:59):
was generational, but he got that from his father, you know.
So I think the mindset first of all, and then
as the mindsets passed down, then you begin brother Sean
to find out the different avenues are doing it, because
real estate is not the only avenue of doing that.
Some people don't do no real estate, but they have
a business or some people have stocks. So it doesn't
matter the asset class. You just need one, and you
(23:21):
need one that will allow you to create this thing.
Call leverage and talk a lot about my book about
their power of the importance of having the leverage, because
what leverage does. It allows you to make more money
with less effort. And so more so, it's the mindset.
It's the having the people come together to work together
to get something done, and then now we can we
(23:42):
can pass it on to the next generation. Now watch this,
because I heard bishey Jake said TDJA said this years ago.
He said, it's now only important what you leave to them,
it's also what you leave in them. So I don't
want to leave my son and my grandson a whole
bunch of money and they gonna go there and kill
themselves because I haven't put the right morals in there.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
And the right beliefs in them. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Because I am a pastor, I'm a descripture. It says
in Proverbs chapter wanted to talk about prosperity ruins the
fool right, So if somebody's foolish, their money would kill them,
you know. And so it has to be a mixture
of the right the materials. But then also recognize that,
hey man, there's some things there, some ways I got
to teach you how to live so that this money
(24:30):
don't kill you.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
As always, your book is fascinating from a standpoint of
we drive around communities, we see open lots, we see
rundown houses, we see houses that we may feel we
can never afford, but they all are real estate.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yes, sure, and.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
That's what this conversation from a Jump is about. Opening
your eyes to financial gains that you are passing by
every day. Get with your friends, get with your families,
pool money and you can can get into game. And
it's not a game that you can technically start by yourself.
So to get that out your mind, you may need
help and help us through. Like you said, vetting people,
(25:12):
everybody understanding writing down in a contract, none of the
handshake stuff. I'm talking about money. Get it right and
you can start winning in the game of real estate.
And in his book The Real Estate Wealth Creative Blueprint
next to be Jenkins. As usual, you give my show credibility.
Money Making Conversations Master Class. Thank you for always coming
(25:33):
on my show, Dexter, thank you for having me, sir.
This has been another edition of Money Making Conversation Masterclass
posted by me Rashaun McDonald. Thank you to our guests
on the show today and thank you listening to audience now.
If you want to listen to any episode I want
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(25:56):
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