Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Patrice Washington.
A transformational speaker and founder of Redefining Wealth, discusses personal development, financial success, and the importance of setting intentional goals.
🔑 Key Themes & Highlights
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Defining Success at Different Life Stages
- Washington explains how her definition of success evolved from her 20s to her 40s.
- Early success was driven by external validation, while later success focused on personal fulfillment.
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The Importance of a Life Blueprint
- Compares life planning to architectural blueprints—without a plan, success is difficult to achieve.
- Encourages listeners to set clear goals for the year to avoid feeling lost by year-end.
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The Six Pillars of Wealth
- Washington emphasizes integrating financial success with personal well-being.
- Advocates for balancing career, relationships, faith, and health to avoid burnout.
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Avoiding Burnout & Setting Realistic Goals
- Discusses the importance of safe goals (small, achievable steps) and support goals (seeking help from mentors or professionals).
- Encourages people to set reasonable expectations rather than overwhelming themselves.
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Results, Not Resolutions
- Washington promotes her Results, Not Resolutions framework, helping individuals create tangible action plans.
- Shares strategies for maintaining motivation and accountability throughout the year.
📘 About Patrice Washington
Patrice Washington is a personal finance expert, speaker, and author recognized by Success Magazine as one of the top 25 influential leaders in personal development. She is dedicated to helping individuals redefine wealth by focusing on well-being, purpose, and financial literacy.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
I am Rashan McDonald, a host the weekly Money Making
Conversation Masterclass show. The interviews and information that this show
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Guest button. Press submit and information will come directly to me. Now,
(00:24):
let's get this show started. My next guest, she's on
the call. She knows about setting it goes. I've known
her for over two decades. If you are a preaching church,
everybody needs a good deacon. Everybody needs a good deacon. Well,
my guest is my deacon for this. She is not
a deacon really, but she preaches the gospel of success.
Cceess Fortress, a transformational speaker, host and founder of Redefining Wealth,
(00:51):
named by Success Magazine, is one of the top twenty
five influential influential leaders in personal development, consistently called on
by top national media athletics Just Good Morning America, c NBC, Cosmopolitan,
Women's Health, NBC, Essence Magazine, and more. Patricers where personal development,
spiritual growth, and personal finance success converged and create a
(01:13):
roadmap for your ultimate success. Please welcome to Money Making
Conversations Master Class, Patrise, Washington. How you doing, Patrese?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Hey, I'm well. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Oh with great First of all, it was First of all,
thank you for taking the time to come on the show.
When you when you're talking about success, and I've watched
a lot of your videos. I'm a fan of yours.
I've seen your TV many times. Washington, What is success?
Can you put it in a lane? Or? Because does
it mean so many things to so many different people.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I think that success is ultimately an individual journey because
what success looks like to me now in my forties
is not what success looked like to me in my
twenties when I initially met you. Right, So, every year,
as my life has evolved, as you are exposed to
new things, as you are exposed to new concepts, new people,
(02:07):
new perspectives, new perceptions, your definition of success may evolve.
And that's okay. And that's why I love what you
said about you're never too old to dream. You're never
too old to dream a new dream and to set
some new goals. But the main thing is you're going
to never hit the things that you don't prepare for
if you don't prepare for it, if you don't plan
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for it, and if you don't have a clear vision
for what you desire out of your life. In these
next twelve months, you're going to get to December thirty
first and say, what the heck just happened? Just like
there's people listening right now who are like, my god,
where did the year go? Nowhere it went because you
didn't define where you wanted it to go, and at
least start with an initial blueprint at the beginning of
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the year.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
When you say blueprint, Patrice, what does that look like?
What is? You know?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Men?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Women? We have old people in their sixties who oh,
you know. I'm in my sixties, So I know that
there are people out there always those places that go
I do. I don't walk like that. I know, I
don't talk like that. I know I don't look like
that because I'm not under the idea that my life
is ended. And are people walking around here look like
their life have ended by the way they walk, the
way they talk, you know, and because they have not
prepared for success. And that's why I brought you on
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the show to talk about because it is you and
I have been on the journey. I've seen you you
know before, you know, just turning twenty you know, and
I see you now and I've charged your growth through
in years as you go. Can you talk to us
about twenty period for you, thirty period for you, and
now the forties talk about those three different lanes and
(03:43):
take your time as you talk.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, I would like to say, you know, I think
for many of us in our twenties, we don't really
have a clear understanding of what the blueprint is. And
let me take a step back and say what the
blueprint is when we think about a building, For example,
there's so much building going on right now in Atlanta,
you know where we are. There's a new building, a
new construction, a new something every day that's going up.
(04:09):
Without a blueprint, no one knows what to do without
that finance, that that foundational idea of well, how many
rooms is it, how many floors is it? How many
doors will we need to purchase? How many windows do
we need? What does the heating and cooling look like?
When we think about our own lives, If we dream
a new dreams and we have a vision for our lives,
(04:29):
right Rashan, we will have to take a step back
and say what are the different elements and pieces that
are required in order to make this come to life.
So when you think about what the vision is for
twenty twenty four, the blueprint is essentially the roadmap for
how I'm going to get there, because that roadmap is
what's going to determine what are my monthly goals or
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what are my quarterly goals, what are my daily objectives?
What should be on my calendar. Everything on my calendar
should be taking me one step closer every day to
get into that, you know, that finish line of whatever
this vision is. So for me in my twenties, my
blueprint was what did my mama say?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Or what your friends say, or what your like, your parents,
your teachers. That's I always tell people. You know, you've
driven by what other people think you should be.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, I think early in my life success looked like
to me earning external validation. As long as my mentors,
people like you were clapping, I was like, well, for
Shan said, that's good, That's what I'm gonna do. Forshaw
seems to be pleased, right, or any of these people
who have considered mentors or like my parents, grandparents, you know, pastors.
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So for many of us, we have maybe passed success
in things, but we can't always say that it was
authentic to who we really were. It just was this
is what people said we should do, so we did it.
And so for me, that's what success look like and
the goals that I set. While I'm proud of the
things I've accomplished, I can't always say that I went
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after them for the right reason, right right. And then
I would say in my thirties, as I you know,
became a mom, and some of the things that matter
to me started to shift and I started to learn
myself more and build my own voice. Then it started
to become a bit more, you know, about what I
really wanted, Like I can see myself doing these things?
(06:29):
What is my purpose? What do I see my life
vision really being? Who are the people that I want
to serve? What are the experiences I would like to have?
So then success stopped looking so much like what what
do my mentors applaud me for? And it became like
what do I want to clap for myself for?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Like my annual goal is going to have more fun.
It's going to have more joy. It's going to be
about more things that make me personally fulfilled, not just
financially fulfilled. Because you know, my background is financial psychology,
and so a lot of people now will make all
these big money goals and financial goals and work goals,
and then they leave out making sure that they're clear
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about what they want to create in the other parts
of their life. And then when those things fall by
the wayside, you're gonna waste the money anyway trying to
pick up the pieces. You're not really even going to
enjoy the things that you achieved. So for me in
my thirties, it became being clear that my goals couldn't
just be about working money. I needed to have some
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personal goals about what I wanted my relationships to look like,
What does my faith look like at this season, What
does my mental and physical well being look like? As
I pursue those things? And now in my forties, now
in my forties, what I really lean towards is just
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making sure that everything is integrated, that as I look
at my life, I just make sure sure that I
have an awareness of what I call the six pillars
of wealth, so that as I'm setting goals, I'm not
like burning myself out trying to chase money or trying
to chase things. It really is about success looks like
for me in this season of my life, making sure
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that I'm living a purposeful, meaningful life. To me, I'm
not looking for external information to validate that. I'm leaning
on my internal intuition. Does this feel good to Patrese?
For me, That's what success looks like.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Now, co congratulations on that because it was well spoken.
I'm speaking with Patrice Washington, Success Magazine named as one
of the top twenty five influential leaders and personal development.
You know, you can know some of somebody for a
long time, but as social media allows you to stay connected,
and how the website social media give us the contact inituation.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It's that Patrice Washington dot com, slash results.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I want to talk about the pillars of success that
I've you know, it's almost like a mantra if it's
heard it so many years, seeing the little Steve Harveys's
talk show that you're sitting down and the ifamus naety
day framework. You know, Steve Harvey made it famous using
that with his relationship book, and we all know jobs.
I just did a big old series about nainty day probation.
Every period we're going to talk about her dainty days.
(09:18):
But more importantly, Patrice, your goal in coming on this
show today is to accomplish what.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I really want to help more people get results. I
think that for the last few years we've just been
tossed to and fro and it's simply because we don't
have a framework and a blueprint, and I want to
break it down step.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
By step giving advice and then watching people not follow
that advice. Does that frustrate you?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
It can be frustrating. But something that I have leaned
into is that my job is to plant the seeds
and give people games they pick it up. If they
pick it up, that's on them. But I'm always going
to share freely. That's just who I am, you know, because.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Of the fact that we go through life, you know, Patresa,
and it's really fun talking to you from a standpoint
because of the fact that you're younger than me, but
we also have had a journey together in a period,
and so you know, being that I'm older, I know
exactly how what you think. When you said in your twenties,
because I always tell people you, between the ages of
(10:18):
eighteen and twenty four and that little window right there,
you're kind of like fearless, you know, but then all
of a sudden, people start shaping you. While you're doing that,
you should be doing this, and then you let those people,
like you were saying, those people start diving into your mindset,
then they can offer you know all to your true dreams.
And I say this to you, now, between you the
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age of eighteen and twenty four, are you doing now
what you wanted to do between the ages of your
age of eight that period between eighteen and twenty four.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
The only thing I would say that it's similar is
that I always knew I wanted to be an entrepreneur,
like one thing that I was always clear on. And
this is really just because I had a hard working
you know mom. You know I'm American, and my mom
works so far away from home that she couldn't attend
any of my school stuff. And I used to just
say to myself, even in elementary school and middle school,
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when I grow up, I just want to be an
entrepreneur so I can control more of my time. I
want to be a present mother. And so the only
thing that's spot on is that I was really clear
pretty much my whole life that I wanted to really
be an entrepreneur and create my own lane. And so
that's still the same, but the way that I'm doing
it is not the same, not at all.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
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Speaker 2 (12:04):
You know, it's really interesting because you know, I'm a
type of person where it looks like I do work hard.
I work hard, and I and some people that I
don't sleep enough. But I enjoy my life, Patrice, And
I remember, uh, Cicily was asking you cisely is my wife?
She was asking me? She said, uh, we was going
to the airport. And I've said this on the radio before.
(12:24):
She said when do you get tired? When are you tired?
And I looked at her, I went, I'm tired now,
I said, I'm tired right now? You know, so and
I say that because of the fact that when you're
pursuing your dreams, are you living your life, whether you're
an athlete or a person, they're They're doctors who are
doing surgery, who are tired, They're people who are but knowing.
(12:48):
But I do know I need to sleep. I do
know there's a moment that when I do stop. But
I know why I am in the moment, Patrice. I
can be tired, I can be, but what I'm not
going to be is frustrated. What I'm not going to
do is give up. What I'm not going to be
is let somebody tell me I cannot achieve something if
I've set goals and proper planning in place. And when
(13:11):
I listen to you, and I do listen to you,
you talk about, you know, how to avoid burnout and
pursue your goals with intentions and abundant mindset. What exactly
does that mean? Because I may be too extreme, and
I may be the extreme person because I can get
away with three four hours of sleep at night and
people look at me, go really, brother, really, and no
(13:31):
call I'm a no coffee guy and I still do
it like that. And so being that I am an extreme,
and I may be that a plus plus type person.
What is the person that your policies, that your practice
of who you are trying to reach and mold to
be successful.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
So one of the things that I believe too is
because I'm gonna be honest with you, I be tired
to Rashan, we are doing the things that really light
us up. But I believe that when people are not
doing what is authentically aligned with who they are designed
to be in the world, really their soul is exhausted.
And I think sol exhaustion is way worse than physical
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like being physically tired, when you are running away from
the things that you're supposed to do because you refuse
to set up a plan, because you refuse to prioritize,
because you refuse a set boundaries until other people know,
that's why you exhausted. Like, that's different. That's not the
same as just oh I need a nap. I just
want to be clear. But in the people that I
(14:34):
you know, coach and what I do. One of the
things we're going to talk about at results in my
resolution is the three step system that I use to
set goals. And I started to develop this two decades ago.
And the way that I avoid burnout is because I
don't treat all goals equally. So when I say that
I have a vision, I've learned to break it down
into three types of action steps. The first type of
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action step I call it safe goals. What are the
safe goals? What are the easy things that I can
do to get to the vision I say I have? Right,
So let's say, rishond, what's the goal that you have?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I could easily say make more money, but I think
the plan better. I want to plan better, and my
short term goals make them reachable.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Okay, perfect. So if the vision is to plan better,
and let's say there's some specific events that resid right, okay,
So the safe goals for that are order a new planner,
use a different calendaring system like or research different calendaring systems,
use a different planner. What are just the things that
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you could do that are easy to do you just
won't sit down and do it. Those are safe goals. Now,
the thing is, we don't want to have a million
safe goals, because if you just do the easy stuff,
you never really accomplish anything big. So we want to
get some of those things out the way. So we
can stop making those an excuse, right. The next level
would be support goals. Okay, who do you need on
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your team or in your life to support you with
planning better? Maybe you need a new executive assistant, or
maybe you need a different admin person on your team.
Maybe you need a coach of some kind. Maybe you
need like who can support you in getting there, who
already knows what to do and they can help you
do it sooner, quicker, faster. So now the thing is,
(16:24):
we don't want to have a million support goals because
people use well I called so and so and they
didn't call me back, So that means you just dropped
the whole. Yes, yes, you can't use people as escape
go but you do need support.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
If people use that all time, well you know she
didn't call me back. I said, I just threw my
hands up, went whatever, you know, And then they come
around and complained. The whatever excuse for not achieving your
goal is real popular and because you because you was
funny when you were saying, if you tell us the
truth at the same time you said rashan January, people
said sous February. They forget them and forget and that's
(17:04):
why I was just saying about myself. I want to
set goals. I want to plan goals that are reachable,
because usually people set goals that are not reachable. You know.
In other words, if you say you're gonna lose five
pounds versus thirty pounds, you probably you're probably gonna get
to that five pounds, which will incentivize you to go
to another five pounds, right. And so so if you
(17:27):
say in January, my dudes, is a resolution, I'm gonna
lose thirty pounds. Okay, come February you might have just
lost five pounds. All you know is wow, I never
get you that thirty. So what I'm saying, and I'm
telling the listeners and is that set a reasonable goal.
Five pounds is a lot of weight. It's a lot
of weight to lose and keep it off. And so
(17:48):
if you set more reasonable goals and she said safe,
that's a safe goal. That And I know because I
should teach aerobics when I was in college, so I
know what people will do. My classes will packed the
first two weeks. The last two weeks it was empty.
Because people do that, They set a goal at the
top of them up and then they'll disappear, and they'll disappear.
(18:10):
And that's all you're saying. You're saying, Rashan and anybody
who's listening, set safe goals and reasonable expectations.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Correct, Yeah, And I mean so that's a great example though.
So if it's about losing weight, right, it might be
to the safe goal is to go toward three different
types of gyms in your neighborhood to see which one
is more aligned with like what feels good for you.
Everybody don't want to be in the gym with a
bunch of muscle men. I just want to go to
(18:38):
a little pilates class, but like, go toward take a
free class, do the console, see what works for you. Right.
The other thing could be I'm gonna get some que
workout clothes so I feel inspired. The only thing is
a safe goal is I'm gonna put my workout clothes
on the edge of my bed so when I wake
up in the morning, I just roll into that workout clothes. Like,
you have to set it up in a way that
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supports you. Well. You can't have these expectations of yourself
to do a lot of things you haven't done all
at once.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And I'm gonna take you to the next level on
this workout. Okay, See, I'm not a person. I don't run.
You know I got the treadmill. I walk on my trip.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
On a treadmill. Though you are you been walking on
that treadmill the whole time.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I'm I'm walking. You know I'm walking. You know I'm walking.
I'm walking. Jiall if the if I barll bere weights,
I'm doing twenty pounds. Okay, I'm curling twenty pounds. See,
what you're not going to do to me is create
additional work in my life. And so knowing that I'm
not going down there trying to pick up forty and
fifty curl forty and fifty pounds, I'm probably gonna go
(19:38):
down there and guess what all you're trying to do
as you get older is keep your muscles stretched, keep
them stretched so when you walk, and then take that
knee and bend it to your chest. So it's amazing
people don't understand this. And I went to the hospital
and that because my knee was bothering me. So I
thought I thought I had to have surgery. You gotta go. No,
(20:01):
we're gonna send you to therapy, physical therapy, And when
I went to the physical therapy, the guy was telling
me just bend my knee towards my chest. I said,
hold up, hold up, my knee is hurting. He said,
you're hurting. It's hurting because you're not stretching your muscles.
And because I started bending my knee, the pain went away.
The pain went away.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
It was me.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
And that's that's a beautiful example, though, of a support goal.
When you when you went to the doctor, you went
to go get the support you needed to get the
problem fixed. You didn't sit up there on web and
be trying to diagnose yourself. Right, because I'm telling.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
You something, Patrie, I would have never thought bending my
knee to stop pain. I stretched my need to stop paying.
I just knew this guy go, well, we're gonna have
do some a c L you know, go in there
and scope it out. Gotta go No, he said, the
problem with most people just like you, You over exercise,
but you don't stretch. Stretching is the key to success.
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And when I when I when I talk about success
and that when I saw you on social media, I
just knew I had to bring you back into my
life on this show just to talk about your program,
just talk about you and if you don't mind, missus
Washington love to have you on this show at least
once a quarter.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I would love to come back. Are you kidding? It
would be my honor.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
We're good. We'll tell everybody what you're trying to do
next week so we can get lined up and the
work because they caught my eye. And if anybody's listening,
this is Patrise Washington. She's a success coach and she's
there to change your life. She's not trying to force
you to change your life, but put plans in place.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
So I would love to invite you out. If you
are tired of just thinking and wishing that something will
change for you in this next year, I would love
to invite you to results, not resolutions at like tangible
steps that you can use to create the vision, but
then also the blueprint for how you can get there.
And it will be authentic to you. It will be
in alignment with what you desire. And I'm going to
(21:56):
share with you the actual tools and processes and strategies
that I've used in my own life for the last
two decades to do everything from write you know five
books in less than seven years, launch a podcast that
now has seventeen million downloads, engage in entire community, and
I don't burn out around it. And I want to
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show you how you can create what you want without
the burnout.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Hopefully we have a group that wants to finish strong
instead of some stragglers.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Okay, yes, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Okay. Thank you for coming on Money Making Conversations for Trees.
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Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
I am Rashan McDonald, a host the weekly Money Making
Conversation Masterclass show. The interviews and information that this show
provides are for everyone. It's time to stop reading other
people's success stories and start living your own. If you
want to be a guest on my show, please visit
our website, Moneymakingconversations dot com and click the be a
Guest button. Press submit and information will come directly to me. Now,
(00:24):
let's get this show started. My next guest, she's on
the call. She knows about setting it goes. I've known
her for over two decades. If you are a preaching church,
everybody needs a good deacon. Everybody needs a good deacon. Well,
my guest is my deacon for this. She is not
a deacon really, but she preaches the gospel of success.
Cceess Fortress, a transformational speaker, host and founder of Redefining Wealth,
(00:51):
named by Success Magazine, is one of the top twenty
five influential influential leaders in personal development, consistently called on
by top national media athletics Just Good Morning America, c NBC, Cosmopolitan,
Women's Health, NBC, Essence Magazine, and more. Patricers where personal development,
spiritual growth, and personal finance success converged and create a
(01:13):
roadmap for your ultimate success. Please welcome to Money Making
Conversations Master Class, Patrise, Washington. How you doing, Patrese?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Hey, I'm well. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Oh with great First of all, it was First of all,
thank you for taking the time to come on the show.
When you when you're talking about success, and I've watched
a lot of your videos. I'm a fan of yours.
I've seen your TV many times. Washington, What is success?
Can you put it in a lane? Or? Because does
it mean so many things to so many different people.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I think that success is ultimately an individual journey because
what success looks like to me now in my forties
is not what success looked like to me in my
twenties when I initially met you. Right, So, every year,
as my life has evolved, as you are exposed to
new things, as you are exposed to new concepts, new people,
(02:07):
new perspectives, new perceptions, your definition of success may evolve.
And that's okay. And that's why I love what you
said about you're never too old to dream. You're never
too old to dream a new dream and to set
some new goals. But the main thing is you're going
to never hit the things that you don't prepare for
if you don't prepare for it, if you don't plan
(02:29):
for it, and if you don't have a clear vision
for what you desire out of your life. In these
next twelve months, you're going to get to December thirty
first and say, what the heck just happened? Just like
there's people listening right now who are like, my god,
where did the year go? Nowhere it went because you
didn't define where you wanted it to go, and at
least start with an initial blueprint at the beginning of
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the year.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
When you say blueprint, Patrice, what does that look like?
What is? You know?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Men?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Women? We have old people in their sixties who oh,
you know. I'm in my sixties, So I know that
there are people out there always those places that go
I do. I don't walk like that. I know, I
don't talk like that. I know I don't look like
that because I'm not under the idea that my life
is ended. And are people walking around here look like
their life have ended by the way they walk, the
way they talk, you know, and because they have not
prepared for success. And that's why I brought you on
(03:21):
the show to talk about because it is you and
I have been on the journey. I've seen you you
know before, you know, just turning twenty you know, and
I see you now and I've charged your growth through
in years as you go. Can you talk to us
about twenty period for you, thirty period for you, and
now the forties talk about those three different lanes and
(03:43):
take your time as you talk.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, I would like to say, you know, I think
for many of us in our twenties, we don't really
have a clear understanding of what the blueprint is. And
let me take a step back and say what the
blueprint is when we think about a building, For example,
there's so much building going on right now in Atlanta,
you know where we are. There's a new building, a
new construction, a new something every day that's going up.
(04:09):
Without a blueprint, no one knows what to do without
that finance, that that foundational idea of well, how many
rooms is it, how many floors is it? How many
doors will we need to purchase? How many windows do
we need? What does the heating and cooling look like?
When we think about our own lives, If we dream
a new dreams and we have a vision for our lives,
(04:29):
right Rashan, we will have to take a step back
and say what are the different elements and pieces that
are required in order to make this come to life.
So when you think about what the vision is for
twenty twenty four, the blueprint is essentially the roadmap for
how I'm going to get there, because that roadmap is
what's going to determine what are my monthly goals or
(04:52):
what are my quarterly goals, what are my daily objectives?
What should be on my calendar. Everything on my calendar
should be taking me one step closer every day to
get into that, you know, that finish line of whatever
this vision is. So for me in my twenties, my
blueprint was what did my mama say?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Or what your friends say, or what your like, your parents,
your teachers. That's I always tell people. You know, you've
driven by what other people think you should be.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, I think early in my life success looked like
to me earning external validation. As long as my mentors,
people like you were clapping, I was like, well, for
Shan said, that's good, That's what I'm gonna do. Forshaw
seems to be pleased, right, or any of these people
who have considered mentors or like my parents, grandparents, you know, pastors.
(05:44):
So for many of us, we have maybe passed success
in things, but we can't always say that it was
authentic to who we really were. It just was this
is what people said we should do, so we did it.
And so for me, that's what success look like and
the goals that I set. While I'm proud of the
things I've accomplished, I can't always say that I went
(06:06):
after them for the right reason, right right. And then
I would say in my thirties, as I you know,
became a mom, and some of the things that matter
to me started to shift and I started to learn
myself more and build my own voice. Then it started
to become a bit more, you know, about what I
really wanted, Like I can see myself doing these things?
(06:29):
What is my purpose? What do I see my life
vision really being? Who are the people that I want
to serve? What are the experiences I would like to have?
So then success stopped looking so much like what what
do my mentors applaud me for? And it became like
what do I want to clap for myself for?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Like my annual goal is going to have more fun.
It's going to have more joy. It's going to be
about more things that make me personally fulfilled, not just
financially fulfilled. Because you know, my background is financial psychology,
and so a lot of people now will make all
these big money goals and financial goals and work goals,
and then they leave out making sure that they're clear
(07:10):
about what they want to create in the other parts
of their life. And then when those things fall by
the wayside, you're gonna waste the money anyway trying to
pick up the pieces. You're not really even going to
enjoy the things that you achieved. So for me in
my thirties, it became being clear that my goals couldn't
just be about working money. I needed to have some
(07:31):
personal goals about what I wanted my relationships to look like,
What does my faith look like at this season, What
does my mental and physical well being look like? As
I pursue those things? And now in my forties, now
in my forties, what I really lean towards is just
(07:54):
making sure that everything is integrated, that as I look
at my life, I just make sure sure that I
have an awareness of what I call the six pillars
of wealth, so that as I'm setting goals, I'm not
like burning myself out trying to chase money or trying
to chase things. It really is about success looks like
for me in this season of my life, making sure
(08:16):
that I'm living a purposeful, meaningful life. To me, I'm
not looking for external information to validate that. I'm leaning
on my internal intuition. Does this feel good to Patrese?
For me, That's what success looks like.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Now, co congratulations on that because it was well spoken.
I'm speaking with Patrice Washington, Success Magazine named as one
of the top twenty five influential leaders and personal development.
You know, you can know some of somebody for a
long time, but as social media allows you to stay connected,
and how the website social media give us the contact inituation.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It's that Patrice Washington dot com, slash results.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I want to talk about the pillars of success that
I've you know, it's almost like a mantra if it's
heard it so many years, seeing the little Steve Harveys's
talk show that you're sitting down and the ifamus naety
day framework. You know, Steve Harvey made it famous using
that with his relationship book, and we all know jobs.
I just did a big old series about nainty day probation.
Every period we're going to talk about her dainty days.
(09:18):
But more importantly, Patrice, your goal in coming on this
show today is to accomplish what.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I really want to help more people get results. I
think that for the last few years we've just been
tossed to and fro and it's simply because we don't
have a framework and a blueprint, and I want to
break it down step.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
By step giving advice and then watching people not follow
that advice. Does that frustrate you?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
It can be frustrating. But something that I have leaned
into is that my job is to plant the seeds
and give people games they pick it up. If they
pick it up, that's on them. But I'm always going
to share freely. That's just who I am, you know, because.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Of the fact that we go through life, you know, Patresa,
and it's really fun talking to you from a standpoint
because of the fact that you're younger than me, but
we also have had a journey together in a period,
and so you know, being that I'm older, I know
exactly how what you think. When you said in your twenties,
because I always tell people you, between the ages of
(10:18):
eighteen and twenty four and that little window right there,
you're kind of like fearless, you know, but then all
of a sudden, people start shaping you. While you're doing that,
you should be doing this, and then you let those people,
like you were saying, those people start diving into your mindset,
then they can offer you know all to your true dreams.
And I say this to you, now, between you the
(10:40):
age of eighteen and twenty four, are you doing now
what you wanted to do between the ages of your
age of eight that period between eighteen and twenty four.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
The only thing I would say that it's similar is
that I always knew I wanted to be an entrepreneur,
like one thing that I was always clear on. And
this is really just because I had a hard working
you know mom. You know I'm American, and my mom
works so far away from home that she couldn't attend
any of my school stuff. And I used to just
say to myself, even in elementary school and middle school,
(11:13):
when I grow up, I just want to be an
entrepreneur so I can control more of my time. I
want to be a present mother. And so the only
thing that's spot on is that I was really clear
pretty much my whole life that I wanted to really
be an entrepreneur and create my own lane. And so
that's still the same, but the way that I'm doing
it is not the same, not at all.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more
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(11:58):
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Speaker 2 (12:04):
You know, it's really interesting because you know, I'm a
type of person where it looks like I do work hard.
I work hard, and I and some people that I
don't sleep enough. But I enjoy my life, Patrice, And
I remember, uh, Cicily was asking you cisely is my wife?
She was asking me? She said, uh, we was going
to the airport. And I've said this on the radio before.
(12:24):
She said when do you get tired? When are you tired?
And I looked at her, I went, I'm tired now,
I said, I'm tired right now? You know, so and
I say that because of the fact that when you're
pursuing your dreams, are you living your life, whether you're
an athlete or a person, they're They're doctors who are
doing surgery, who are tired, They're people who are but knowing.
(12:48):
But I do know I need to sleep. I do
know there's a moment that when I do stop. But
I know why I am in the moment, Patrice. I
can be tired, I can be, but what I'm not
going to be is frustrated. What I'm not going to
do is give up. What I'm not going to be
is let somebody tell me I cannot achieve something if
I've set goals and proper planning in place. And when
(13:11):
I listen to you, and I do listen to you,
you talk about, you know, how to avoid burnout and
pursue your goals with intentions and abundant mindset. What exactly
does that mean? Because I may be too extreme, and
I may be the extreme person because I can get
away with three four hours of sleep at night and
people look at me, go really, brother, really, and no
(13:31):
call I'm a no coffee guy and I still do
it like that. And so being that I am an extreme,
and I may be that a plus plus type person.
What is the person that your policies, that your practice
of who you are trying to reach and mold to
be successful.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
So one of the things that I believe too is
because I'm gonna be honest with you, I be tired
to Rashan, we are doing the things that really light
us up. But I believe that when people are not
doing what is authentically aligned with who they are designed
to be in the world, really their soul is exhausted.
And I think sol exhaustion is way worse than physical
(14:13):
like being physically tired, when you are running away from
the things that you're supposed to do because you refuse
to set up a plan, because you refuse to prioritize,
because you refuse a set boundaries until other people know,
that's why you exhausted. Like, that's different. That's not the
same as just oh I need a nap. I just
want to be clear. But in the people that I
(14:34):
you know, coach and what I do. One of the
things we're going to talk about at results in my
resolution is the three step system that I use to
set goals. And I started to develop this two decades ago.
And the way that I avoid burnout is because I
don't treat all goals equally. So when I say that
I have a vision, I've learned to break it down
into three types of action steps. The first type of
(14:58):
action step I call it safe goals. What are the
safe goals? What are the easy things that I can
do to get to the vision I say I have? Right,
So let's say, rishond, what's the goal that you have?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I could easily say make more money, but I think
the plan better. I want to plan better, and my
short term goals make them reachable.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Okay, perfect. So if the vision is to plan better,
and let's say there's some specific events that resid right, okay,
So the safe goals for that are order a new planner,
use a different calendaring system like or research different calendaring systems,
use a different planner. What are just the things that
(15:39):
you could do that are easy to do you just
won't sit down and do it. Those are safe goals. Now,
the thing is, we don't want to have a million
safe goals, because if you just do the easy stuff,
you never really accomplish anything big. So we want to
get some of those things out the way. So we
can stop making those an excuse, right. The next level
would be support goals. Okay, who do you need on
(16:01):
your team or in your life to support you with
planning better? Maybe you need a new executive assistant, or
maybe you need a different admin person on your team.
Maybe you need a coach of some kind. Maybe you
need like who can support you in getting there, who
already knows what to do and they can help you
do it sooner, quicker, faster. So now the thing is,
(16:24):
we don't want to have a million support goals because
people use well I called so and so and they
didn't call me back, So that means you just dropped
the whole. Yes, yes, you can't use people as escape
go but you do need support.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
If people use that all time, well you know she
didn't call me back. I said, I just threw my
hands up, went whatever, you know, And then they come
around and complained. The whatever excuse for not achieving your
goal is real popular and because you because you was
funny when you were saying, if you tell us the
truth at the same time you said rashan January, people
said sous February. They forget them and forget and that's
(17:04):
why I was just saying about myself. I want to
set goals. I want to plan goals that are reachable,
because usually people set goals that are not reachable. You know.
In other words, if you say you're gonna lose five
pounds versus thirty pounds, you probably you're probably gonna get
to that five pounds, which will incentivize you to go
to another five pounds, right. And so so if you
(17:27):
say in January, my dudes, is a resolution, I'm gonna
lose thirty pounds. Okay, come February you might have just
lost five pounds. All you know is wow, I never
get you that thirty. So what I'm saying, and I'm
telling the listeners and is that set a reasonable goal.
Five pounds is a lot of weight. It's a lot
of weight to lose and keep it off. And so
(17:48):
if you set more reasonable goals and she said safe,
that's a safe goal. That And I know because I
should teach aerobics when I was in college, so I
know what people will do. My classes will packed the
first two weeks. The last two weeks it was empty.
Because people do that, They set a goal at the
top of them up and then they'll disappear, and they'll disappear.
(18:10):
And that's all you're saying. You're saying, Rashan and anybody
who's listening, set safe goals and reasonable expectations.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Correct, Yeah, And I mean so that's a great example though.
So if it's about losing weight, right, it might be
to the safe goal is to go toward three different
types of gyms in your neighborhood to see which one
is more aligned with like what feels good for you.
Everybody don't want to be in the gym with a
bunch of muscle men. I just want to go to
(18:38):
a little pilates class, but like, go toward take a
free class, do the console, see what works for you. Right.
The other thing could be I'm gonna get some que
workout clothes so I feel inspired. The only thing is
a safe goal is I'm gonna put my workout clothes
on the edge of my bed so when I wake
up in the morning, I just roll into that workout clothes. Like,
you have to set it up in a way that
(18:59):
supports you. Well. You can't have these expectations of yourself
to do a lot of things you haven't done all
at once.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And I'm gonna take you to the next level on
this workout. Okay, See, I'm not a person. I don't run.
You know I got the treadmill. I walk on my trip.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
On a treadmill. Though you are you been walking on
that treadmill the whole time.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I'm I'm walking. You know I'm walking. You know I'm walking.
I'm walking. Jiall if the if I barll bere weights,
I'm doing twenty pounds. Okay, I'm curling twenty pounds. See,
what you're not going to do to me is create
additional work in my life. And so knowing that I'm
not going down there trying to pick up forty and
fifty curl forty and fifty pounds, I'm probably gonna go
(19:38):
down there and guess what all you're trying to do
as you get older is keep your muscles stretched, keep
them stretched so when you walk, and then take that
knee and bend it to your chest. So it's amazing
people don't understand this. And I went to the hospital
and that because my knee was bothering me. So I
thought I thought I had to have surgery. You gotta go. No,
(20:01):
we're gonna send you to therapy, physical therapy, And when
I went to the physical therapy, the guy was telling
me just bend my knee towards my chest. I said,
hold up, hold up, my knee is hurting. He said,
you're hurting. It's hurting because you're not stretching your muscles.
And because I started bending my knee, the pain went away.
The pain went away.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
It was me.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
And that's that's a beautiful example, though, of a support goal.
When you when you went to the doctor, you went
to go get the support you needed to get the
problem fixed. You didn't sit up there on web and
be trying to diagnose yourself. Right, because I'm telling.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
You something, Patrie, I would have never thought bending my
knee to stop pain. I stretched my need to stop paying.
I just knew this guy go, well, we're gonna have
do some a c L you know, go in there
and scope it out. Gotta go No, he said, the
problem with most people just like you, You over exercise,
but you don't stretch. Stretching is the key to success.
(20:56):
And when I when I when I talk about success
and that when I saw you on social media, I
just knew I had to bring you back into my
life on this show just to talk about your program,
just talk about you and if you don't mind, missus
Washington love to have you on this show at least
once a quarter.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I would love to come back. Are you kidding? It
would be my honor.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
We're good. We'll tell everybody what you're trying to do
next week so we can get lined up and the
work because they caught my eye. And if anybody's listening,
this is Patrise Washington. She's a success coach and she's
there to change your life. She's not trying to force
you to change your life, but put plans in place.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
So I would love to invite you out. If you
are tired of just thinking and wishing that something will
change for you in this next year, I would love
to invite you to results, not resolutions at like tangible
steps that you can use to create the vision, but
then also the blueprint for how you can get there.
And it will be authentic to you. It will be
in alignment with what you desire. And I'm going to
(21:56):
share with you the actual tools and processes and strategies
that I've used in my own life for the last
two decades to do everything from write you know five
books in less than seven years, launch a podcast that
now has seventeen million downloads, engage in entire community, and
I don't burn out around it. And I want to
(22:16):
show you how you can create what you want without
the burnout.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Hopefully we have a group that wants to finish strong
instead of some stragglers.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Okay, yes, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
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