October 20, 2025 • 32 mins
Two-time Emmy and three-time NAACP Image Award-winning television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Dr. Leola Anifowoshe.
🎯 Purpose of the Interview
The interview aims to:
- Educate listeners on the science and solutions behind hair loss.
- Introduce Dr. Leola Anifowoshe’s work in functional medicine, trichology, and holistic hair restoration.
- Share her personal journey and expertise.
- Promote her clinic, products, and diagnostic approach to hair and scalp health.
🧠 Key Takeaways 1. Hair Loss is Treatable and Often Misunderstood
- Hair follicles may be dormant, not dead—where there’s life, there’s hope.
- Hair loss is often a symptom of deeper health issues, such as stress, inflammation, or liver dysfunction.
2. Holistic and Functional Approach
- Dr. Leola emphasizes testing over guessing.
- Her clinic uses microscopic scalp analysis, cell inflammation tests, and custom treatment plans.
- She avoids pharmaceuticals, relying on natural remedies and nutraceuticals.
3. Hair Loss as a Health Crisis
- Especially prevalent among Black women, often due to scarring alopecia from early perms.
- The American Hair Loss Association had not studied this demographic adequately.
4. Innovative Technology
- Her clinic developed a patented machine called the ResourciStation, which:
- Diagnoses scalp conditions.
- Removes debris.
- Stimulates follicles.
- Can transform salons into restoration centers.
5. Personal Story and Motivation
- Dr. Leola experienced hair loss due to sarcoidosis, a form of lupus.
- Her husband’s reaction to her baldness inspired her to create effective products.
- She was raised by blind family members, teaching her to rely on senses beyond sight, influencing her product development.
6. Product Highlights
- Ditch the Itch Shampoo: Detoxifies scalp.
- Smooth & Restore Conditioner: Nourishes hair strands.
- Awakening Complex: Stimulates dormant follicles using natural DHT blockers like pumpkin seed.
- Meltdown Scalp Oxygen Foam: Clears buildup and energizes follicles.
💬 Notable Quotes
- “Where there’s life, there’s hope—as it relates to hair follicles.”
- “Hair loss is a bully. You can’t fight it with a butter knife.”
- “We don’t guess—we test.”
- “Hair loss is a whistleblower—it tells you something deeper is wrong.”
- “I kill men back their wives. I give women back their husbands.”
- “I was born on the 4th of July. I was born for this.”
- “You can’t out-give God. Create a vacuum effect—give something to get something.”
🌱 Emotional and Cultural Impact
- Dr. Leola’s work is deeply rooted in community healing, especially for underserved populations.
- She challenges mainstream dermatology and beauty standards, advocating for natural, culturally aware solutions.
- Her clinic offers telehealth, making her services accessible nationwide.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Now, let's get started.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
My guest is a parent enforce in the intersection of science,
scalp health and rejuvenated hair loss.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I'm all here to do it may be a reason
I got her own this show.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
She's founder of the American Technology Academy which is ATA
and the Texas Hair Restoration and Wellness Center. She has
become a nationally recognized force or expert and functional matters
at regards root hair gain and hair restoration. She's on
the show to talk about that. She has some products.
(01:08):
Who's gonna talk about She's gonna talk about the process
of health. She's gonna talk about the different, but you
what she does and the dermatologist does. Please work with
the show, Doctor Leola and the Faro show.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I'm well, thank you. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
First of all, doctor, thank you for coming on my
show having me one. I'm a ball.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Headed man, and we're going to start that because I
think that you have to be honest about how this
I have. My mom had thin in hair and my
father had a full head of hair, but here he
turned great quickly, so I got a mix of both.
I got grand thin hair, okay, and so you know
at the top of my part my head, that's what
(01:51):
my hair got thin, okay. And basically you know, I
just I've been shaving my head. I don't know if
I can grow hair or not, but I've been shaving
my head since probably since two thousand and six, okay,
and not even trying to grow it back.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
But I do know I have thin half.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
So how do you and get into the engaged portion
of a potential person like me who just confessed. I
guess you could say I'm not comfortable with not having
this basically having this issue, but it is an issue
that I can talk to you because you are a
professional and a leader in your field.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Talk to me.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Well, the first question is do you want that look?
Some people like the kojack look and it looks right
mighty good? Are you? So did you want that look?
Or you just kind of like settle for that look
because you didn't like the thinning? That would be the
first one. I'm a settler, okay, So if you're a seller,
the first thing I want to tell you, don't have
to settle, at least without knowing that you had to settle, right,
because there will always be that question mark did I
(02:52):
take the right course of action? Did I have to settle?
Because once we look at you under a scalp analysis
and see that those follicles are still alive, they may
be dormant, but they may not be dead. And where
there's life, there's hope as it relates to hair follicles.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Okay, So when we go back through this journey and
I'm a black man, okay, and you know, I see
all this advertised may white men. I've been watching television
by you know, hair fro men, hair clubs and all that,
and it seems like it's just a proliferation of everybody
talking about they can grow your hair.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
But I don't trust nobody. I do not trust anybody
doctor rightfully.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
So it's weird, some real strange stuff going out there. Show.
It's some real strange stuff going on in the hair
loss where I was just telling like a part of
the other day, I'm like, where are all these people
coming up as proliferating everywhere? And that causes more skepticism.
But the irony of it is, the longer you wait,
the more the hair loss becomes pervasive. And I call
hair loss a bully. Okay, so imagine for a moment
(03:49):
you had a bully in your house. You don't want
to guess what type of bully it is. You might
think it's the neighborhood bully, but it may be something
more serious. So you got to meet forced with force.
Because if you're going in to fight the neighborhood bully
with a butter knife, you might win. But suppose it's
not the neighborhood bully. How do you win that? And
that's the same with hair loss. You're trying to deal
(04:10):
with hair loss with pills, potions, creams, lotions, but it
maybe require something more serious, right, more testing, and so
we can deal with it and then we work our
way back so one of the things we say is
we don't guess. We test. It's too much guessing.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Now, you send me a book that I went through
and I read, and it was more of a in
some way as a technical book, but it also offered
other reasons why you could be suffered from hair loss.
It's not always birth related or hereditary.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Let's talk about that.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
So that is the hair loss detective, and I call
myself that because we saw the mystery of hair loss
one strand at a time. And just like a detective,
the more clues we have, the closer we are to
getting to salve. We get to solve in the case.
So it may not be just your mom or your dad.
And however, if your mom and dad both have it,
you have a higher appropriate to have it. Doesn't necessarily
(05:02):
mean you're going to have it. I always tell people
this analogy. If both your parents are probably alcoholics, if
I can say that doesn't mean you'll be one, but
you probably have a higher chance to be one than
someone who isn't. Same with hair loss. But then you
know there's a lot going on post COVID. We're seeing
a lot more parallels post COVID, depending on how your
(05:22):
body responded to the vaccines from COVID, so we see
a lot more of that. It could be your food,
But let me tell you the one that's really hiding
and playing sight stress. When you stress, it literally cuts
off the hair growth cycle because the way your cartisol,
your body releases cortisol, right, so cortisol. Stress strangles cortisol.
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So when cortisol is strangled, then it's stopping your It's
like it's cutting it off. It's like it's strangling it.
It's like the vollicles are yelling for help, but they can't.
So you got to learn. People have to learn either
through mindfulness, prayer or something to say, you know what,
I gotta let go and let God or whatever your
mantra is. But we're doing way too much. And if
you look back at our great grandparents, our grandparents, they
(06:09):
didn't even have the same type of hair loss. Even
the grandmothers, the women, they didn't have the same life.
So you have to see how things are changing with time.
So we got to start smelling the roses a little
bit more. And that's not just a that's just not
a clichey.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I'm speaking of doctor Leola Anna for Wilshe. You know,
she is a prior and enforce at the intersection of science, scalp,
health care and regenitive innovation when it comes to hair
and scalp. Now you're the founder of Americanchology Psychology Academy.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
What is trichology.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Trichologist the study of hair loss. So actually alopecia just
means hair loss. So tricologists the study of the science
of hair loss. So we diagnose and treat disorders and
diseases of the scalp. We're not medical, we're clinical, So
we deal with a holistic functional medicine part of it.
What's causing the root cause, and we get to the
solution without medications and drugs. We use nature. We believe
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that nature presents everything that you need to heal your body.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Okay, so give us our background.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
What makes you an expert from a medical and a
research standpoint.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
What makes me an expert is, first of all, I'm
a PhD. Although my PhD is an organizational leadership, it
still taught me how to do research. So I researched deeply.
I have over fifty products, and being raised by blind
today brought some here today. And I was raised by
blind people. So my grandfather was the co president of
the Lighthouse for the Blind, so he's the manufacturer when
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I was a little girl, so I started manufacturing very early.
But being raised by blind people, I learned a very
fundamental premise. You can't rely on your just your eyes.
You got to use your other senses. They didn't have
their eyes. So that's when my products are superior because
people can trick you with your eyes, but they can't
trick you with efficacy or something. How it feels. That's
(08:00):
why blind people stay married because they didn't get attracted
through their eyes. They got attracted through other things. So
that's the way I create my products. And when I
create my products, like I have my products and one
store in Houston and men in Texas, and they literally
can't keep it on the shell because it works.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
So you have to what product is that you're talking
Let's find out what they can't keep on the shell.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Well, it's a tonic, right, It's called Zuri Zurivita. It's
a tonic, and I'm creating new ones. I have liquid
hair vitamins I have. They just can't keep it on
the shell because it's sell food and when you feed
the cells, you feel well and your body's always communicating.
That's why when you eat something awful, you feel awful.
But when you eat whole foods, live foods, you feel alive.
(08:42):
So you have a day, a busy day, you have
things to do, eat well, and then you'll keep your
energy because food has vibrations. Did you know that foods
carry vibrations? So if you eat something really gunky or junkie,
your energy will just go down and you'll feel kind
of weird and don't know why, right, right, and so,
so you know, I'm just asking questions. Okay, I love questions.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Why are you now.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
All these all these white folks out here, all these
products are billions of dollars behind it. Why this little
young black lady right here in Texas third world?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Why I know third world? I'm used to born there
fifth forth.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Went to college third world Texas Southern University and University
Houston is in third world along with Yates High School.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
That's my school.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
How this young black lady figure all this out?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
You know, sometimes being born in the inner city has
some serious advantages because we knew how to if an
outfit didn't work, we knew how to make it work.
So we have some things that's intricate. And I'm saying
this out of love. But one man once told me
that a black American woman has such a unique advantage
of more than I mean, out of many people in
(09:52):
the world, just the way that the opportunity is given
to us.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Right.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
So like we here in Houston, when we were in elementary,
they would take cans to the opera in symphony and
my husband didn't know that because there was doing something
different than now Louisiana. But I'm saying I'm wanted them people.
I see the glass half full, so I can make
Even if you come on my clinic and I invite
you there in.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Houston, I'm coming. I kid you not because I know
I'm cutting you off, but you invited me. I gotta
I gotta follow it up.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
With yes, I'm coming, cause you know, here's my whole
thing is that I'd like to know.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
It's like going to a doctor.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
To me, I go to it. I go to a dennist.
Why can't I go to a hair doctor. That's how
I look at it. Why can't I send an appointment
to you for you and go look at my head?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Is this issue? Can it be fixed. Just like you know.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I've had my I've had surged you on my lung,
i had my gallbladder removed, I had my thyro arch
but removed. So I'm not opposed to somebody telling me
you do this and make this part of your life better.
And so I'm seeking information and I'm seeking truth because
if you tell her Shan, we.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Can't do anything for you, I'm gonna be happily living
my life.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
We will.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
But if you can tell me, Rashan, we can work
with you. Just what. I'm gonna be your number one patient.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
And we'll show you in real time. Right, there's no
hocus pocus that will show you in real time when
you're coming to the clinic. We have real diagnostic tools
that's gonna check most things. We do have medical side,
so there's always a place for medical in the world
of any type of healing, but we do mostly hole
list of healing. We'll be able to tell if your
kid needs a liver or something isn't functioning the way
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it should. And we're the third largest tricology center in
the country. I thought in Texas, but I just found
out in the United States.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Okay, talking to doctor Leola and the four o'shay. And
when I look at you and you say rashan emotionally,
you are impacting people at the very core. Both men
and women talk about that.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I killed men back their wives. I've had women coming
in there with their husbands literally didn't know they have
hair loss. Because a woman's hair is truly her glory.
It's biblical. He knew the number of hairs on our
hair before we were formed. I give men back there women,
I mean women back their husbands. It's a level of
shame that a company's hair loss that some people don't
have it don't realize. But this is your crown, this
(12:17):
is the roof. I always tell people if your house flood,
do you prefer the floor of the roof? They say
the floor, because if the roof is flooding, everything under
it's gonna suffer. So the hair is more significant than
people give it credit for. So when you take care
of your hair. But the good news about hair loss,
did I tell you it's good news?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, well, please tell me the good news.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
The good news about hair loss. Hair loss is a
whistle blowy, it's a tattle tale on the body. You
can't just have hair loss. Even if it's a hereditary,
and unless you're like seventy five years old, it could
be it's something in a body that's not connecting. So
hair loss is like, hey, mom, dad, you're not listening
your blood pressure, your dibit's your cholesterol, your liver with
Kenny Colon sums off. But perhaps God made us a
(12:59):
little vein that we'll just pay attention tower hair and
then when we look at that, we'll start testing and
I'll find something with the liver.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, and you said the secret body part that helps
your hair grow long and strong.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
This is your other book. These books are available.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
They're available, And I'll be sure wrote the forward and
there because you know he had some liver failure, so
he was real happy to write the forward in that book.
But yeah, the liver is untold secret gold. If you
don't listen to anything else, I say, get on a
liver supplement.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I wanted to just bring that out, but I know
we're going to focus on hair. Yes, because I always
tell people when you veer into too many topics, do't
nobody know what you're what you're good at, what you
good at, what you are an expert is is hair
loss recovery. Yes, okay, cool, now you had a hair yes,
talk about that.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
So I had a condition called sorry Cary Dolls, and
I said had because I don't claim any disease and
so for I'm a loopers. But you may know when
Bernie mag passed, he passed, and also my best friend
one home. Yes, and then I think Gina from Martin
had sorry quite doses. So that requires to be on medications.
It will swell you up all kinds of problems. So
at that time it swowed me up. And at that
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time I was married and my husband and his Nigerian
voice said, I can't deal with bald women. And that
was devastating. He did and he knows this is my story.
And he said, but that out of that pain, I
created products because I couldn't go.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I was not laughing at your voice. I was laughing
at your accent.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, no, he knows, he knows this part of the story.
And uh, it was just devastating because it took me
so long to get my hair. I wasn't born with
the open winfred hair that was naturally long. I had
to grow because some women have to nurture their hair.
But when it starts shading. I'm telling you, when your
hairs you start losing and don't know why, that's a
deep feeling in your body like something is way off.
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So it was devastating. So that's when I set out
to your story. I was already in nutraceuticals selling vitamins,
so I'm like, if my vitamins can help people feel better,
they could help hair grow, and they did. So I
used to just give it to people, Rashaan, but people
don't follow that structures. So we're like, come in and
let us do it for you. So that's how we
grew the Trichology Center. It grew organically for people coming in.
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We're treating them and you see all the results. People don't.
It looks like they had a transplant, but they didn't.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Don't go anywhere.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
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Master Class with me Rashawn McDonald. Right you when you
said it look like you have a transplant, because you
said that twice.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
People can have hair transplants.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
They can, but we don't do that. We don't have
to do it because.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I know that. But what is that a hair transplant.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
A hair transplants when they take care from your donut
area in the back and put it up here. Because
these are two that if you notice most men who
lose their hair, it's called the call to sect like
George Jefferson, the perimeter being but the top will be
missing because that's two different parts of where the hormone
that causes hair loss are tax That's why men with
Verry Harry Chess will also are more prone to bondness.
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It's because DHT is the hormone that causes hair loss
and attacks this area most. So what you have to
do is create an environment where they doesn't want to live.
So you can change the environment up your scalp, which
is what we do with this machine invented, and recalibrate
the scalp where the DHT doesn't want to bully you
because he doesn't want to live there.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Okay, cool.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Now just used to me as an example, and the
example meaning that if you can this is going to
be playing back at audio. It's gonna be on TV,
but from an audio perspective. With Sean McDonald, you don't
know me, I'm coming in. How does the process work?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
We don't guess we test. I mean, with my experience
offer ninety percent of the time I can tell. But
that wouldn't do you a service, right, So we have
diagnostic tools. We'll look at you under microscope and magnify
your scale by one thousand percent, and we'll look at
those focalus. We'll see if there's any clogging around it,
kind of inflammation or anything like that. And then sometimes
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we'll do what we call a sailor test to see
if you have inflammation in your cells and so not.
Based on that, then we present your treatment plan and
we only take cases we feel like we can solve.
So that's why we have the hair lot.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
So you're telling me you would kick out of the
office of Reshard, we can't do nothing for you.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
We'll tell you the truth. We can say, well, we're
gonna get most of your perimeter back, which I have
for a photo to show you that we actually bought
up one guy's ninety percent of his hair back, and
he'd been involved like twelve years, so he doesn't he
didn't need to.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
When you say perimeter, it feels like George Jefferson.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, the George Jefferson, the colder sack a kids, So why.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Would I want to look like georgepes.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Oh no, no, he came in that way, but he
didn't leave looking that way.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Okay, okay, he came in.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
No they don't. The most men are going to already
have the parameter hair. But as long as the follicles
are alive, endorment, we can revitalize those follicles as long
as they're not idea. But the longer you take, they may.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Now let's talk about this machine. You've said several times
it's doing this interview. What is this machine?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
It's something totally phenomenal. Now speaking of a little girl, yes,
it's patter and penned, but speaking of a little girl
from third reward, this machine had to be a gift
from God. Because in my clinic, we're also a testing center.
So I found a lot of things that were missing.
I'm like, it's some odd stuff here and some things
that were missing. So through trial and tribulation, my husband
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was also a decent mechanical engineer. He just dissects everything
and we look opened up machines and so he helped
me develop this machine. And I'll tell you that that
machine can literally tearn any hair. Salon until a hair
restoration center. Oh okay, it's got literally ten I would
say gadgets on it. But it can do everything. Look
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at your scalp. It can penetrate deep to the bulb
the stomach of the hair and folic and get the
food there. It can remove the breed. It's truly. It
can extrapolate pimples out of the scalp. It's something. It's
called the receussle station, resuscitate a person, a state.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Words you made up they did.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
It's a station, the station, the station. We weren't sitting
up the parking lot. One day I told my husband,
I said, honey, it's to call the station.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Because you know what I was reading. I was doing
my homework. I came across that word. I said, I
don't think I can enunciate that word.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
It's a station, the state. Just think about resuscitating or heart.
But it's a station. So we put everything in one station. Yes,
it's two feet around and you just carried.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Them Outstand, got love it.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I'm talking to doctor Leola and Fosha, and you know
she's a hair restoration expert.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I'm a chief tricologist. That means I teach tricology to us.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
And so with that being said, when we talk about
being a nice litt we talked about a lot of
crisis in this country, and you said hair loss is
a national health crisis.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
It is.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Talk to us, Well, you know, here's one really good
for you that hair. There's one a partic hair losses,
particularly for Black women, that the American UH hair Loss
Association wasn't even studying. They weren't putting any dollars to it.
And the reason I found out because the Black Queen
of Maryland at one point she was totally ball and
she said, doc, you need to look into this. I
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looked into It's called CCC eight scarring alopecia. If black
girls got a perm when they were in elementary school. Right,
most of us have that scarring alopecia, and most doctors,
especially dermatologists, don't know what to do about it. So
I have the whole program laid out.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Sperm spur apologies talk about those perms.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Now. You know, my wife refused to let my daughter,
but she did it one time and kind of like damage.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
My daughter's hair. And that was I was like nine
years old. She never did it again.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Ye, Well, their articles out there can be a cause cancer,
especially in black women and black Yeah. By the FDA,
I think right now is looking at to repeal of
those chemicals that are involved in perms.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Your take on perms and a black women hair loss, I.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Think it's never gonna go away. It's sort of like wigs, right,
They're never gonna go away. But there's a time and
place for everything. Is the frequency, and I think as
it concerns black women, there's never enough research dollars behind it,
so you have to proceed with caution. Like who told
us we have to relax our edges every six weeks?
Who told us that? So when you get past that,
you gotta be comfortable with your edges curling up a
(21:31):
little bit, because when this stuff permeates your body, the
problems that can associate with a hormone problems. Sometime we
walk around angry and don't know why. It's those perms,
it's those wigs. We're Black women angry and don't know why.
Take those wigs off. You'll be nicer than your husband.
I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I've seen it now, doctor Leola. I hear your voice
and it changes a little bit. So it means that
I feel you talk to a lot of people, it
frustrates you. It frustrates you when you know you have
the truth and people don't believe you.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Am I if that's what I'm hearing, Well, a lot
of my patients do believe me. In fact, they love
me because they get results. They get tired of Oh no,
they don't. They don't want to because they're they're addicted
to the creamyk stuff, you know, and it's like, okay,
if you want to relax it, do it twice a year,
three times a year, but every six weeks come on.
It's the frequency. So sometimes that's the harm. But have
(22:30):
you ever seen anybody give a relaxer. Every time they
put on a relaxer, they wear gloves. So if you're
if you're putting gloves on your to protect your head,
what are you doing to protect your scalp? So if
your hand more important than your scalp, because because the
brain protects controls everything, nobody.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
That's that's the sign right there.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Yeah, put no glove to protect your head. But they're
not putting in on anything to protect your scalp. That's
how dangerous it is, because that's why that's so Oh
your head for sometimes thirty minutes Uncle barn sodium hydroxide.
And now and when you get thirty, forty or fifty,
you're gonna have hair loss and sometimes it could be
permanent scarring. And that's that CCCA. They call it hotcomb alabisia. Right,
(23:11):
we were burned as little girls and all that if
you got to relax in the elementary. But when you
know better, you do better.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Right now, we've got some some products here. You know,
we're gonna talk about it. If you're watching on television,
you can see it on YouTube. Now let's talk about
ditch to itch shampoo, Smooth and Restore shampoo.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
What exactly is that?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Just what it says, dish to itch is a carbon
based shampoo that pulls the toxins out a lot of
times when you're itching excessively. It's just like your follicles
are trapped in so they just trying to get out.
So we have that bigae. So that's what dish to
itch does. And it has a magic shampoo.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
And that's a shampoo and a condition. So I've raised
up to ditch to itch, hydrate and nourish.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
But you know, let mention this. I hear the word shampoo.
I hear the word conditioning. What is the difference.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Oh that's a great question. Oh my god, that's why
you are who you are. Okay, people confuse it for
a while. Everybody on YouTube is talking about coal washing
all that, so they were using condition as a shampoo. No,
it's two different things. Scientifically, shampoo it's meant to cleanse
the scalp. That's why I say use a quarter size.
Shampoo is for the scalps, conditioners for the hair because
(24:22):
shampoo lifts up the strand and conditioner closes it. Don't
use condition on your scalpe because it's going to close
the follicles. We don't want to do that.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Oh okay, okay, cool.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
And then I'm holding up Awakening complex that's advanced follicles
follicle So.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
One thing you can bet on my product since we
ship all around the world. The brochure is on the way.
But the labor's going to tell you if you read
the and read that bag, Oh what is a folloical awakening?
If you read it back, it's awakening. The follow holes right,
got to tell you what it does.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Awakens dominant follicles, boost scalp oxygenation, oxygenation. Most sca roots
and hairstrands nourishes with calligen roseberry and pumpkin seed.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Infusion, and pumpkin seed is a DHT blocker. So there
are some things like when oxidal that's in nature. You
don't have to use some things in nature.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Then you have meltdown scaff oxygen phone.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Well, just what it says, melt down, all that build up,
all that gunk melted down.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
And if I had a sky, I have a ball head,
So what would I be us?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
You put this on here right now, you'll feel your
follicles dance. If I spray this on your scalp right now,
your follicles were dancing two men and one and three seconds.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I got makeup on.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Okay, well but I can I this is all yours.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Okay. Cool.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
So I was just talking about, you know, from a
male perspective, because I'm very sincere when I say this,
I'm going to make an appointment.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Please, we're about uh in the Houston area.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
You locate to night in Hollister.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
How big is your staff? Did you say you're the
third largest in the country.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Yeah, but we're very profisi that's right. But we have
eight people who work with us. We're very profriate and
we work up. We do a lot of telehealth, so
we work with people all over the country. Right virtual,
we're virtual, and we're very systematized. Because we're gonna teach you.
I give you official for a day, I teach you
official for life. So I'm gonna teach you. I'll be
like your coach. So we put people on a six
(26:19):
month on why you're playing. Sometimes I have to alter
your diet to something anti inflammatory because inflammation is a
silent killer.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
For the following.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
So with this man, who are let me ask you
this because I want to do it right. Yes, doctor Liola,
is that cause you said, Rachelle, you can spread this
on your head right now?
Speaker 3 (26:38):
You will?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Should I do that or should I come see you first? Both?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I mean, but these products are testing and proven right
before something gets passed me. I mean you ought to
just see my house. My house has been taken over
by bottles. I mean, I am a mad scientist.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
They have this big kid here, the advanced follical Rejuvenation
technology KISS.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
So this a trichopus right, So that one there uses
ions to I call them jumper cable to really rejuvenate
your pole because a lot of time they just resting.
It's like, come on, get out vacation, let's go. We
got something new. So when you use that too, This
one ours is unique because he can go up to
eight levels. Most of them on the market, no one
size fits on all these men in here. Y'all not
(27:20):
the same, right, so no one size fits all. And
that's what makes us special. You are different, so we
can you're not a monolithic person like a regular dermatologist.
They go if you're a black man, page twenty eight. Regardless,
they go to page twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
That's just And that's what this kid is is. This
kid is just.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
This will help you. This you'll put you You put
one of these on and then you use this. You
plug it up and you have your own truck call
if you say it. It's like the builder cables.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Now there now for a ball headed man too, August
for women.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
You got especially men, So like a phone, you use
it like a coms.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I'm just asking you all, head, how am I used
to like?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Well, we got to gadget for you. One of them
is shaped like a spoon, right, so it's different gadgets
shaped different ways depending like in your kis. You're gonna
start with this one lack of mushroom. Uh huh, so
that went flat? Go just manufactured just for your scalp.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Okay, uh huh okay.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
And then this one is the cone for somebody like
him with a longer hair. Yep, so a different one.
See you, one side doesn't fit off.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Now I'm being honest with you. Now you just this
actual productated this. So you have to have revenue to
create your dream. How are you able to pull this off?
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Well, my husband, so can I tell you he sold
his bigger yacht and bought a smaller one, and so
we use some of that money, right, and then, uh,
we work hard. We just sell a lot of stuff
and yeah, yeah, but we we we're looking to sell
the recessor station and offer that to people. So we're
looking forward to having a recess station in every city
(29:01):
so we can empower people. So you won't have to
come in. He'll see. You can go right to one
of these local hairstyllars and get a full scap revivlation.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Okay, cool again. Name of your business.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Texas Hair Restoration and Wellness Center.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Any phone numbers, any websites, Yes.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Texas Hair loss Clinic dot com and my phone number
is two LIKEE one eight five zero four five seven one.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Well, as we close this interview, because it's a personal
interview to me, rarely do I have people going to
show that. I asked just many personal questions because you know,
I can live with this. Look, I'm comfortable, But like
I told you earlier, I'm uncomfortable because I don't want that.
I like to live my life with options. Yeah, and
(29:44):
right now I don't feel I have an option. This
is how I have to live my life. So I'm
looking I'm seeking comfort. Does that make sense? You've heard
that story before.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Far. One thing you'll know for sure, after dog finished
with you, you will have without any uncertainty, that you've
made the right choice. And whatever I can come back
is going to come back under my cap. If it
don't come back, it can't come back, So you will
never have to live in another five or ten years
wondering if I would it, should have could have. Right, Yeah,
we'll get rid of that part. We're going to see
(30:12):
what can come back. And often people are surprised.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Wow, you've heard our story.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
She's a an expert doctor straight out of the third
Ward I'm out of fifth Ward, born and.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Raised in Houston, Texas. But you know, as I look
at you, what made you a dreamer? What made you?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Because I know where you're from and you know where
I'm from. And I just I always tell people when
I walked outside, I just saw black people. I moved
to another neighbor I walked outside, I still saw black people,
But I felt the world was bigger for me than
the black people that I saw.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
What did you see?
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I was born on the fourth of July. I was
born for this. So I just remember sitting on that
porch and at Cune was saying, one day, I'm going
to get out of here. But you know what, we
were broke, but we weren't poor. We didn't know it
because we had everything with our parents. So we probably
was broke, but we were never poor. It because we
just and I think it's a mindset, but some things
have to do with how you were born. So I
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was born on Independence Day. I love America. I love
everything about it. I love the opportunities and I you
know what, I think, entrepreneurs, we could do a lot more.
You gotta get up and you gotta hit it. Man,
you gotta get up and do stuff and share. You
cannot give God. You gotta give stuff away. You gotta circulate.
We hold stuff too close, but you cannot give God
(31:28):
because if you want more close, give away something. You
got to create a vacuum effair. Give out something so
you can get something. We're holding stuff too close, right.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
She's doctor Liola Anna for well Share. She's special because
guess what, She's trying to change people's lives.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
One head at a time, one strain at a time,
on one straight. I like that even better. There's a
lot of straine on our head in need help.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Absolutely.
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Thank you for coming on Money Making Conversation Masterclass.
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This has been amaze and thank you so timely.
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Now, let's get started.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
My guest is a parent enforce in the intersection of science,
scalp health and rejuvenated hair loss.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I'm all here to do it may be a reason
I got her own this show.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
She's founder of the American Technology Academy which is ATA
and the Texas Hair Restoration and Wellness Center. She has
become a nationally recognized force or expert and functional matters
at regards root hair gain and hair restoration. She's on
the show to talk about that. She has some products.
(01:08):
Who's gonna talk about She's gonna talk about the process
of health. She's gonna talk about the different, but you
what she does and the dermatologist does. Please work with
the show, Doctor Leola and the Faro show.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I'm well, thank you. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
First of all, doctor, thank you for coming on my
show having me one. I'm a ball.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Headed man, and we're going to start that because I
think that you have to be honest about how this
I have. My mom had thin in hair and my
father had a full head of hair, but here he
turned great quickly, so I got a mix of both.
I got grand thin hair, okay, and so you know
at the top of my part my head, that's what
(01:51):
my hair got thin, okay. And basically you know, I
just I've been shaving my head. I don't know if
I can grow hair or not, but I've been shaving
my head since probably since two thousand and six, okay,
and not even trying to grow it back.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
But I do know I have thin half.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
So how do you and get into the engaged portion
of a potential person like me who just confessed. I
guess you could say I'm not comfortable with not having
this basically having this issue, but it is an issue
that I can talk to you because you are a
professional and a leader in your field.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Talk to me.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Well, the first question is do you want that look?
Some people like the kojack look and it looks right
mighty good? Are you? So did you want that look?
Or you just kind of like settle for that look
because you didn't like the thinning? That would be the
first one. I'm a settler, okay, So if you're a seller,
the first thing I want to tell you, don't have
to settle, at least without knowing that you had to settle, right,
because there will always be that question mark did I
(02:52):
take the right course of action? Did I have to settle?
Because once we look at you under a scalp analysis
and see that those follicles are still alive, they may
be dormant, but they may not be dead. And where
there's life, there's hope as it relates to hair follicles.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Okay, So when we go back through this journey and
I'm a black man, okay, and you know, I see
all this advertised may white men. I've been watching television
by you know, hair fro men, hair clubs and all that,
and it seems like it's just a proliferation of everybody
talking about they can grow your hair.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
But I don't trust nobody. I do not trust anybody
doctor rightfully.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
So it's weird, some real strange stuff going out there. Show.
It's some real strange stuff going on in the hair
loss where I was just telling like a part of
the other day, I'm like, where are all these people
coming up as proliferating everywhere? And that causes more skepticism.
But the irony of it is, the longer you wait,
the more the hair loss becomes pervasive. And I call
hair loss a bully. Okay, so imagine for a moment
(03:49):
you had a bully in your house. You don't want
to guess what type of bully it is. You might
think it's the neighborhood bully, but it may be something
more serious. So you got to meet forced with force.
Because if you're going in to fight the neighborhood bully
with a butter knife, you might win. But suppose it's
not the neighborhood bully. How do you win that? And
that's the same with hair loss. You're trying to deal
(04:10):
with hair loss with pills, potions, creams, lotions, but it
maybe require something more serious, right, more testing, and so
we can deal with it and then we work our
way back so one of the things we say is
we don't guess. We test. It's too much guessing.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Now, you send me a book that I went through
and I read, and it was more of a in
some way as a technical book, but it also offered
other reasons why you could be suffered from hair loss.
It's not always birth related or hereditary.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Let's talk about that.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
So that is the hair loss detective, and I call
myself that because we saw the mystery of hair loss
one strand at a time. And just like a detective,
the more clues we have, the closer we are to
getting to salve. We get to solve in the case.
So it may not be just your mom or your dad.
And however, if your mom and dad both have it,
you have a higher appropriate to have it. Doesn't necessarily
(05:02):
mean you're going to have it. I always tell people
this analogy. If both your parents are probably alcoholics, if
I can say that doesn't mean you'll be one, but
you probably have a higher chance to be one than
someone who isn't. Same with hair loss. But then you
know there's a lot going on post COVID. We're seeing
a lot more parallels post COVID, depending on how your
(05:22):
body responded to the vaccines from COVID, so we see
a lot more of that. It could be your food,
But let me tell you the one that's really hiding
and playing sight stress. When you stress, it literally cuts
off the hair growth cycle because the way your cartisol,
your body releases cortisol, right, so cortisol. Stress strangles cortisol.
(05:48):
So when cortisol is strangled, then it's stopping your It's
like it's cutting it off. It's like it's strangling it.
It's like the vollicles are yelling for help, but they can't.
So you got to learn. People have to learn either
through mindfulness, prayer or something to say, you know what,
I gotta let go and let God or whatever your
mantra is. But we're doing way too much. And if
you look back at our great grandparents, our grandparents, they
(06:09):
didn't even have the same type of hair loss. Even
the grandmothers, the women, they didn't have the same life.
So you have to see how things are changing with time.
So we got to start smelling the roses a little
bit more. And that's not just a that's just not
a clichey.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I'm speaking of doctor Leola Anna for Wilshe. You know,
she is a prior and enforce at the intersection of science, scalp,
health care and regenitive innovation when it comes to hair
and scalp. Now you're the founder of Americanchology Psychology Academy.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
What is trichology.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Trichologist the study of hair loss. So actually alopecia just
means hair loss. So tricologists the study of the science
of hair loss. So we diagnose and treat disorders and
diseases of the scalp. We're not medical, we're clinical, So
we deal with a holistic functional medicine part of it.
What's causing the root cause, and we get to the
solution without medications and drugs. We use nature. We believe
(07:07):
that nature presents everything that you need to heal your body.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Okay, so give us our background.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
What makes you an expert from a medical and a
research standpoint.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
What makes me an expert is, first of all, I'm
a PhD. Although my PhD is an organizational leadership, it
still taught me how to do research. So I researched deeply.
I have over fifty products, and being raised by blind
today brought some here today. And I was raised by
blind people. So my grandfather was the co president of
the Lighthouse for the Blind, so he's the manufacturer when
(07:39):
I was a little girl, so I started manufacturing very early.
But being raised by blind people, I learned a very
fundamental premise. You can't rely on your just your eyes.
You got to use your other senses. They didn't have
their eyes. So that's when my products are superior because
people can trick you with your eyes, but they can't
trick you with efficacy or something. How it feels. That's
(08:00):
why blind people stay married because they didn't get attracted
through their eyes. They got attracted through other things. So
that's the way I create my products. And when I
create my products, like I have my products and one
store in Houston and men in Texas, and they literally
can't keep it on the shell because it works.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
So you have to what product is that you're talking
Let's find out what they can't keep on the shell.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Well, it's a tonic, right, It's called Zuri Zurivita. It's
a tonic, and I'm creating new ones. I have liquid
hair vitamins I have. They just can't keep it on
the shell because it's sell food and when you feed
the cells, you feel well and your body's always communicating.
That's why when you eat something awful, you feel awful.
But when you eat whole foods, live foods, you feel alive.
(08:42):
So you have a day, a busy day, you have
things to do, eat well, and then you'll keep your
energy because food has vibrations. Did you know that foods
carry vibrations? So if you eat something really gunky or junkie,
your energy will just go down and you'll feel kind
of weird and don't know why, right, right, and so,
so you know, I'm just asking questions. Okay, I love questions.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Why are you now.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
All these all these white folks out here, all these
products are billions of dollars behind it. Why this little
young black lady right here in Texas third world?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Why I know third world? I'm used to born there
fifth forth.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Went to college third world Texas Southern University and University
Houston is in third world along with Yates High School.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
That's my school.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
How this young black lady figure all this out?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
You know, sometimes being born in the inner city has
some serious advantages because we knew how to if an
outfit didn't work, we knew how to make it work.
So we have some things that's intricate. And I'm saying
this out of love. But one man once told me
that a black American woman has such a unique advantage
of more than I mean, out of many people in
(09:52):
the world, just the way that the opportunity is given
to us.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Right.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
So like we here in Houston, when we were in elementary,
they would take cans to the opera in symphony and
my husband didn't know that because there was doing something
different than now Louisiana. But I'm saying I'm wanted them people.
I see the glass half full, so I can make
Even if you come on my clinic and I invite
you there in.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Houston, I'm coming. I kid you not because I know
I'm cutting you off, but you invited me. I gotta
I gotta follow it up.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
With yes, I'm coming, cause you know, here's my whole
thing is that I'd like to know.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
It's like going to a doctor.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
To me, I go to it. I go to a dennist.
Why can't I go to a hair doctor. That's how
I look at it. Why can't I send an appointment
to you for you and go look at my head?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Is this issue? Can it be fixed. Just like you know.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I've had my I've had surged you on my lung,
i had my gallbladder removed, I had my thyro arch
but removed. So I'm not opposed to somebody telling me
you do this and make this part of your life better.
And so I'm seeking information and I'm seeking truth because
if you tell her Shan, we.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Can't do anything for you, I'm gonna be happily living
my life.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
We will.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
But if you can tell me, Rashan, we can work
with you. Just what. I'm gonna be your number one patient.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
And we'll show you in real time. Right, there's no
hocus pocus that will show you in real time when
you're coming to the clinic. We have real diagnostic tools
that's gonna check most things. We do have medical side,
so there's always a place for medical in the world
of any type of healing, but we do mostly hole
list of healing. We'll be able to tell if your
kid needs a liver or something isn't functioning the way
(11:31):
it should. And we're the third largest tricology center in
the country. I thought in Texas, but I just found
out in the United States.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Okay, talking to doctor Leola and the four o'shay. And
when I look at you and you say rashan emotionally,
you are impacting people at the very core. Both men
and women talk about that.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I killed men back their wives. I've had women coming
in there with their husbands literally didn't know they have
hair loss. Because a woman's hair is truly her glory.
It's biblical. He knew the number of hairs on our
hair before we were formed. I give men back there women,
I mean women back their husbands. It's a level of
shame that a company's hair loss that some people don't
have it don't realize. But this is your crown, this
(12:17):
is the roof. I always tell people if your house flood,
do you prefer the floor of the roof? They say
the floor, because if the roof is flooding, everything under
it's gonna suffer. So the hair is more significant than
people give it credit for. So when you take care
of your hair. But the good news about hair loss,
did I tell you it's good news?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, well, please tell me the good news.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
The good news about hair loss. Hair loss is a
whistle blowy, it's a tattle tale on the body. You
can't just have hair loss. Even if it's a hereditary,
and unless you're like seventy five years old, it could
be it's something in a body that's not connecting. So
hair loss is like, hey, mom, dad, you're not listening
your blood pressure, your dibit's your cholesterol, your liver with
Kenny Colon sums off. But perhaps God made us a
(12:59):
little vein that we'll just pay attention tower hair and
then when we look at that, we'll start testing and
I'll find something with the liver.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, and you said the secret body part that helps
your hair grow long and strong.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
This is your other book. These books are available.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
They're available, And I'll be sure wrote the forward and
there because you know he had some liver failure, so
he was real happy to write the forward in that book.
But yeah, the liver is untold secret gold. If you
don't listen to anything else, I say, get on a
liver supplement.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I wanted to just bring that out, but I know
we're going to focus on hair. Yes, because I always
tell people when you veer into too many topics, do't
nobody know what you're what you're good at, what you
good at, what you are an expert is is hair
loss recovery. Yes, okay, cool, now you had a hair yes,
talk about that.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
So I had a condition called sorry Cary Dolls, and
I said had because I don't claim any disease and
so for I'm a loopers. But you may know when
Bernie mag passed, he passed, and also my best friend
one home. Yes, and then I think Gina from Martin
had sorry quite doses. So that requires to be on medications.
It will swell you up all kinds of problems. So
at that time it swowed me up. And at that
(14:10):
time I was married and my husband and his Nigerian
voice said, I can't deal with bald women. And that
was devastating. He did and he knows this is my story.
And he said, but that out of that pain, I
created products because I couldn't go.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I was not laughing at your voice. I was laughing
at your accent.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, no, he knows, he knows this part of the story.
And uh, it was just devastating because it took me
so long to get my hair. I wasn't born with
the open winfred hair that was naturally long. I had
to grow because some women have to nurture their hair.
But when it starts shading. I'm telling you, when your
hairs you start losing and don't know why, that's a
deep feeling in your body like something is way off.
(14:48):
So it was devastating. So that's when I set out
to your story. I was already in nutraceuticals selling vitamins,
so I'm like, if my vitamins can help people feel better,
they could help hair grow, and they did. So I
used to just give it to people, Rashaan, but people
don't follow that structures. So we're like, come in and
let us do it for you. So that's how we
grew the Trichology Center. It grew organically for people coming in.
(15:10):
We're treating them and you see all the results. People don't.
It looks like they had a transplant, but they didn't.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Don't go anywhere.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
We will be right back with more insights from Money
Making Conversations master Class. Welcome back to Money Making Conversation
Master Class with me Rashawn McDonald. Right you when you
said it look like you have a transplant, because you
said that twice.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
People can have hair transplants.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
They can, but we don't do that. We don't have
to do it because.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I know that. But what is that a hair transplant.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
A hair transplants when they take care from your donut
area in the back and put it up here. Because
these are two that if you notice most men who
lose their hair, it's called the call to sect like
George Jefferson, the perimeter being but the top will be
missing because that's two different parts of where the hormone
that causes hair loss are tax That's why men with
Verry Harry Chess will also are more prone to bondness.
(16:08):
It's because DHT is the hormone that causes hair loss
and attacks this area most. So what you have to
do is create an environment where they doesn't want to live.
So you can change the environment up your scalp, which
is what we do with this machine invented, and recalibrate
the scalp where the DHT doesn't want to bully you
because he doesn't want to live there.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Okay, cool.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Now just used to me as an example, and the
example meaning that if you can this is going to
be playing back at audio. It's gonna be on TV,
but from an audio perspective. With Sean McDonald, you don't
know me, I'm coming in. How does the process work?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
We don't guess we test. I mean, with my experience
offer ninety percent of the time I can tell. But
that wouldn't do you a service, right, So we have
diagnostic tools. We'll look at you under microscope and magnify
your scale by one thousand percent, and we'll look at
those focalus. We'll see if there's any clogging around it,
kind of inflammation or anything like that. And then sometimes
(17:04):
we'll do what we call a sailor test to see
if you have inflammation in your cells and so not.
Based on that, then we present your treatment plan and
we only take cases we feel like we can solve.
So that's why we have the hair lot.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
So you're telling me you would kick out of the
office of Reshard, we can't do nothing for you.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
We'll tell you the truth. We can say, well, we're
gonna get most of your perimeter back, which I have
for a photo to show you that we actually bought
up one guy's ninety percent of his hair back, and
he'd been involved like twelve years, so he doesn't he
didn't need to.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
When you say perimeter, it feels like George Jefferson.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, the George Jefferson, the colder sack a kids, So why.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Would I want to look like georgepes.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Oh no, no, he came in that way, but he
didn't leave looking that way.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Okay, okay, he came in.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
No they don't. The most men are going to already
have the parameter hair. But as long as the follicles
are alive, endorment, we can revitalize those follicles as long
as they're not idea. But the longer you take, they may.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Now let's talk about this machine. You've said several times
it's doing this interview. What is this machine?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
It's something totally phenomenal. Now speaking of a little girl, yes,
it's patter and penned, but speaking of a little girl
from third reward, this machine had to be a gift
from God. Because in my clinic, we're also a testing center.
So I found a lot of things that were missing.
I'm like, it's some odd stuff here and some things
that were missing. So through trial and tribulation, my husband
(18:23):
was also a decent mechanical engineer. He just dissects everything
and we look opened up machines and so he helped
me develop this machine. And I'll tell you that that
machine can literally tearn any hair. Salon until a hair
restoration center. Oh okay, it's got literally ten I would
say gadgets on it. But it can do everything. Look
(18:44):
at your scalp. It can penetrate deep to the bulb
the stomach of the hair and folic and get the
food there. It can remove the breed. It's truly. It
can extrapolate pimples out of the scalp. It's something. It's
called the receussle station, resuscitate a person, a state.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Words you made up they did.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
It's a station, the station, the station. We weren't sitting
up the parking lot. One day I told my husband,
I said, honey, it's to call the station.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Because you know what I was reading. I was doing
my homework. I came across that word. I said, I
don't think I can enunciate that word.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
It's a station, the state. Just think about resuscitating or heart.
But it's a station. So we put everything in one station. Yes,
it's two feet around and you just carried.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Them Outstand, got love it.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I'm talking to doctor Leola and Fosha, and you know
she's a hair restoration expert.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I'm a chief tricologist. That means I teach tricology to us.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
And so with that being said, when we talk about
being a nice litt we talked about a lot of
crisis in this country, and you said hair loss is
a national health crisis.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
It is.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Talk to us, Well, you know, here's one really good
for you that hair. There's one a partic hair losses,
particularly for Black women, that the American UH hair Loss
Association wasn't even studying. They weren't putting any dollars to it.
And the reason I found out because the Black Queen
of Maryland at one point she was totally ball and
she said, doc, you need to look into this. I
(20:16):
looked into It's called CCC eight scarring alopecia. If black
girls got a perm when they were in elementary school. Right,
most of us have that scarring alopecia, and most doctors,
especially dermatologists, don't know what to do about it. So
I have the whole program laid out.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Sperm spur apologies talk about those perms.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Now. You know, my wife refused to let my daughter,
but she did it one time and kind of like damage.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
My daughter's hair. And that was I was like nine
years old. She never did it again.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Ye, Well, their articles out there can be a cause cancer,
especially in black women and black Yeah. By the FDA,
I think right now is looking at to repeal of
those chemicals that are involved in perms.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Your take on perms and a black women hair loss, I.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Think it's never gonna go away. It's sort of like wigs, right,
They're never gonna go away. But there's a time and
place for everything. Is the frequency, and I think as
it concerns black women, there's never enough research dollars behind it,
so you have to proceed with caution. Like who told
us we have to relax our edges every six weeks?
Who told us that? So when you get past that,
you gotta be comfortable with your edges curling up a
(21:31):
little bit, because when this stuff permeates your body, the
problems that can associate with a hormone problems. Sometime we
walk around angry and don't know why. It's those perms,
it's those wigs. We're Black women angry and don't know why.
Take those wigs off. You'll be nicer than your husband.
I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I've seen it now, doctor Leola. I hear your voice
and it changes a little bit. So it means that
I feel you talk to a lot of people, it
frustrates you. It frustrates you when you know you have
the truth and people don't believe you.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Am I if that's what I'm hearing, Well, a lot
of my patients do believe me. In fact, they love
me because they get results. They get tired of Oh no,
they don't. They don't want to because they're they're addicted
to the creamyk stuff, you know, and it's like, okay,
if you want to relax it, do it twice a year,
three times a year, but every six weeks come on.
It's the frequency. So sometimes that's the harm. But have
(22:30):
you ever seen anybody give a relaxer. Every time they
put on a relaxer, they wear gloves. So if you're
if you're putting gloves on your to protect your head,
what are you doing to protect your scalp? So if
your hand more important than your scalp, because because the
brain protects controls everything, nobody.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
That's that's the sign right there.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Yeah, put no glove to protect your head. But they're
not putting in on anything to protect your scalp. That's
how dangerous it is, because that's why that's so Oh
your head for sometimes thirty minutes Uncle barn sodium hydroxide.
And now and when you get thirty, forty or fifty,
you're gonna have hair loss and sometimes it could be
permanent scarring. And that's that CCCA. They call it hotcomb alabisia. Right,
(23:11):
we were burned as little girls and all that if
you got to relax in the elementary. But when you
know better, you do better.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Right now, we've got some some products here. You know,
we're gonna talk about it. If you're watching on television,
you can see it on YouTube. Now let's talk about
ditch to itch shampoo, Smooth and Restore shampoo.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
What exactly is that?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Just what it says, dish to itch is a carbon
based shampoo that pulls the toxins out a lot of
times when you're itching excessively. It's just like your follicles
are trapped in so they just trying to get out.
So we have that bigae. So that's what dish to
itch does. And it has a magic shampoo.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
And that's a shampoo and a condition. So I've raised
up to ditch to itch, hydrate and nourish.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
But you know, let mention this. I hear the word shampoo.
I hear the word conditioning. What is the difference.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Oh that's a great question. Oh my god, that's why
you are who you are. Okay, people confuse it for
a while. Everybody on YouTube is talking about coal washing
all that, so they were using condition as a shampoo. No,
it's two different things. Scientifically, shampoo it's meant to cleanse
the scalp. That's why I say use a quarter size.
Shampoo is for the scalps, conditioners for the hair because
(24:22):
shampoo lifts up the strand and conditioner closes it. Don't
use condition on your scalpe because it's going to close
the follicles. We don't want to do that.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Oh okay, okay, cool.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
And then I'm holding up Awakening complex that's advanced follicles
follicle So.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
One thing you can bet on my product since we
ship all around the world. The brochure is on the way.
But the labor's going to tell you if you read
the and read that bag, Oh what is a folloical awakening?
If you read it back, it's awakening. The follow holes right,
got to tell you what it does.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Awakens dominant follicles, boost scalp oxygenation, oxygenation. Most sca roots
and hairstrands nourishes with calligen roseberry and pumpkin seed.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Infusion, and pumpkin seed is a DHT blocker. So there
are some things like when oxidal that's in nature. You
don't have to use some things in nature.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Then you have meltdown scaff oxygen phone.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Well, just what it says, melt down, all that build up,
all that gunk melted down.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
And if I had a sky, I have a ball head,
So what would I be us?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
You put this on here right now, you'll feel your
follicles dance. If I spray this on your scalp right now,
your follicles were dancing two men and one and three seconds.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I got makeup on.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Okay, well but I can I this is all yours.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Okay. Cool.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
So I was just talking about, you know, from a
male perspective, because I'm very sincere when I say this,
I'm going to make an appointment.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Please, we're about uh in the Houston area.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
You locate to night in Hollister.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
How big is your staff? Did you say you're the
third largest in the country.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Yeah, but we're very profisi that's right. But we have
eight people who work with us. We're very profriate and
we work up. We do a lot of telehealth, so
we work with people all over the country. Right virtual,
we're virtual, and we're very systematized. Because we're gonna teach you.
I give you official for a day, I teach you
official for life. So I'm gonna teach you. I'll be
like your coach. So we put people on a six
(26:19):
month on why you're playing. Sometimes I have to alter
your diet to something anti inflammatory because inflammation is a
silent killer.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
For the following.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
So with this man, who are let me ask you
this because I want to do it right. Yes, doctor Liola,
is that cause you said, Rachelle, you can spread this
on your head right now?
Speaker 3 (26:38):
You will?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Should I do that or should I come see you first? Both?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I mean, but these products are testing and proven right
before something gets passed me. I mean you ought to
just see my house. My house has been taken over
by bottles. I mean, I am a mad scientist.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
They have this big kid here, the advanced follical Rejuvenation
technology KISS.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
So this a trichopus right, So that one there uses
ions to I call them jumper cable to really rejuvenate
your pole because a lot of time they just resting.
It's like, come on, get out vacation, let's go. We
got something new. So when you use that too, This
one ours is unique because he can go up to
eight levels. Most of them on the market, no one
size fits on all these men in here. Y'all not
(27:20):
the same, right, so no one size fits all. And
that's what makes us special. You are different, so we
can you're not a monolithic person like a regular dermatologist.
They go if you're a black man, page twenty eight. Regardless,
they go to page twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
That's just And that's what this kid is is. This
kid is just.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
This will help you. This you'll put you You put
one of these on and then you use this. You
plug it up and you have your own truck call
if you say it. It's like the builder cables.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Now there now for a ball headed man too, August
for women.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
You got especially men, So like a phone, you use
it like a coms.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I'm just asking you all, head, how am I used
to like?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Well, we got to gadget for you. One of them
is shaped like a spoon, right, so it's different gadgets
shaped different ways depending like in your kis. You're gonna
start with this one lack of mushroom. Uh huh, so
that went flat? Go just manufactured just for your scalp.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Okay, uh huh okay.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
And then this one is the cone for somebody like
him with a longer hair. Yep, so a different one.
See you, one side doesn't fit off.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Now I'm being honest with you. Now you just this
actual productated this. So you have to have revenue to
create your dream. How are you able to pull this off?
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Well, my husband, so can I tell you he sold
his bigger yacht and bought a smaller one, and so
we use some of that money, right, and then, uh,
we work hard. We just sell a lot of stuff
and yeah, yeah, but we we we're looking to sell
the recessor station and offer that to people. So we're
looking forward to having a recess station in every city
(29:01):
so we can empower people. So you won't have to
come in. He'll see. You can go right to one
of these local hairstyllars and get a full scap revivlation.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Okay, cool again. Name of your business.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Texas Hair Restoration and Wellness Center.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Any phone numbers, any websites, Yes.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Texas Hair loss Clinic dot com and my phone number
is two LIKEE one eight five zero four five seven one.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Well, as we close this interview, because it's a personal
interview to me, rarely do I have people going to
show that. I asked just many personal questions because you know,
I can live with this. Look, I'm comfortable, But like
I told you earlier, I'm uncomfortable because I don't want that.
I like to live my life with options. Yeah, and
(29:44):
right now I don't feel I have an option. This
is how I have to live my life. So I'm
looking I'm seeking comfort. Does that make sense? You've heard
that story before.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Far. One thing you'll know for sure, after dog finished
with you, you will have without any uncertainty, that you've
made the right choice. And whatever I can come back
is going to come back under my cap. If it
don't come back, it can't come back, So you will
never have to live in another five or ten years
wondering if I would it, should have could have. Right, Yeah,
we'll get rid of that part. We're going to see
(30:12):
what can come back. And often people are surprised.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Wow, you've heard our story.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
She's a an expert doctor straight out of the third
Ward I'm out of fifth Ward, born and.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Raised in Houston, Texas. But you know, as I look
at you, what made you a dreamer? What made you?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Because I know where you're from and you know where
I'm from. And I just I always tell people when
I walked outside, I just saw black people. I moved
to another neighbor I walked outside, I still saw black people,
But I felt the world was bigger for me than
the black people that I saw.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
What did you see?
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I was born on the fourth of July. I was
born for this. So I just remember sitting on that
porch and at Cune was saying, one day, I'm going
to get out of here. But you know what, we
were broke, but we weren't poor. We didn't know it
because we had everything with our parents. So we probably
was broke, but we were never poor. It because we
just and I think it's a mindset, but some things
have to do with how you were born. So I
(31:07):
was born on Independence Day. I love America. I love
everything about it. I love the opportunities and I you
know what, I think, entrepreneurs, we could do a lot more.
You gotta get up and you gotta hit it. Man,
you gotta get up and do stuff and share. You
cannot give God. You gotta give stuff away. You gotta circulate.
We hold stuff too close, but you cannot give God
(31:28):
because if you want more close, give away something. You
got to create a vacuum effair. Give out something so
you can get something. We're holding stuff too close, right.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
She's doctor Liola Anna for well Share. She's special because
guess what, She's trying to change people's lives.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
One head at a time, one strain at a time,
on one straight. I like that even better. There's a
lot of straine on our head in need help.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Thank you for coming on Money Making Conversation Masterclass.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
This has been amaze and thank you so timely.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
This has been another edition of Money Making Conversations. That's
the class hosted by me Rashawn McDonald. Thank you to
our guests on the show today, and thank you our
listening audience.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Now.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
If you want to listen to any episode or want
to register to be a guest on my show, visit
Moneymakingconversations dot com. Our social media handle is money Making Conversations.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
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Speaker 5 (32:24):
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