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November 7, 2025 21 mins

Two-time Emmy and three-time NAACP Image Award-winning television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Dr. Yolanda D. McElroy (aka “Dr. Yo-Yo”).


🎯 Purpose of the Interview

To spotlight Dr. McElroy’s work as a pharmacist, educator, and author of the children’s book It’s Not Candy, which promotes medication safety. The interview also highlights her consulting company, MediManage, and her mission to improve health outcomes through education and community engagement.


🧠 Key Takeaways 1. Professional Background

  • Dr. McElroy is a registered pharmacist in Louisiana with over 30 years of experience in retail and hospital settings.
  • She began her academic journey at Grambling State University (HBCU) studying chemistry before transferring to pharmacy school.

2. MediManage Consulting

  • Founded to promote medication safety and improve health outcomes.
  • Focuses on educating communities about proper medication use, adherence, and preventing medication-related problems.

3. Medication Safety Advocacy

  • Medications are a leading cause of accidental poisoning deaths in children.
  • Parents often leave medications and chemicals within reach of children.
  • Emphasizes the importance of locking up medications and educating both adults and children.

4. Target Age Groups

  • Focuses on children ages 3–10 to instill early awareness of medication safety.
  • Also highlights teens as a vulnerable group due to increased drug experimentation and access to medications at home.
  • Notes the importance of educating parents and senior citizens as well.

5. Book: It’s Not Candy

  • Inspired by her ministry work with youth in mental health hospitals.
  • Based on real-life experiences and includes a song to make learning fun and memorable.
  • Demonstrates how medications can resemble candy, making it difficult for children (and adults) to distinguish.
  • Aims to equip families with knowledge to prevent accidental overdoses and misuse.

6. Challenges in Pharmacy Profession

  • Pharmacists face heavy workloads, including vaccinations, insurance calls, and patient counseling.
  • Many are overworked and under-supported, leading to burnout and even strike considerations.

7. Book Creation Journey

  • Took years to develop after encouragement from her pastor.
  • Extensive research into publishing options and budgeting.
  • Partnered with a publishing company and built a team including an editor and illustrator.
  • Advises aspiring authors to be patient, budget generously, and seek support and education.

💬 Notable Quotes

  • “Medications are a leading cause of accidental poisoning deaths in children.”
  • “If you’re not sure, ask a professional. Ask your pharmacist.”
  • “We want to get them early and instill that training so they can make good decisions.”
  • “Many medication-related injuries are preventable.”
  • “If there’s no room at the table, bring a folding chair.”
  • “Our children are important and their lives are valuable.”

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
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(00:23):
to me.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Now let's get this show started.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
My next guest is doctor Orlanda d McElroy. She's a
registered pharmacist in the state of Louisiana. Been there many times.
She's been there nearly three decades of retail and hospital experience.
In her children's books, It's Not Candy, she incorporates a
beautiful tapestry of music and medicine that is fun yet
conveys the important message of medication safety. Please welcome to

(00:47):
the Money Making Conversation Masterclass, Doctor Ulanda d McElroy.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Hi, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Now, how did you get in the pharmaceutical field? What
attracted you there?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
And you know pharmacy right, Like a lot of kids
in high school, you really don't know what direction you
want to go in. So I started off in chemistry.
I went to Gramarin State University at HBCU, and so
I spent three years there in chemistry. I did some
internships and I discovered I don't want to be in chemistry.

(01:22):
And right here in our hometown, Monroe, there's a pharmacy school.
So someone suggested that I thought about it. I prayed
about it, and I transferred to pharmacy school. And it
was one of the best decisions that I made.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
I didn't know that. So educate me a little bit.
So because I was thought you had to go to
like a four year school to be a pharmacist.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
So you're telling me.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
That it's a school specifically that you could just go
to it to be a pharmacist. How many years is
that educational lane?

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Well, now, it's probably about six to seven years, because
you could go straight into a doctoral program. Back then,
we would get a bachelor degree. Okay, so it's about
a five year to six year program then, and so
I had to go back for another three years. So
I spent eight years total.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
You know, you made it sounded like that was like
a couple of years. Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
I about there, I about why I didn't hear about
this pharmacy opportunity to hear. Somebody told me about the
pharmacy school, and I went, you come back years.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
No matter what age people are, I just tell them
go because that time just goes by so quickly. You know,
time is moving.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Oh absolutely, But you know I'm telling you right now.
You made it sound like it was a couple of
years and you was out. Yeah, you're very casual with
that educational window there to be a pharmacist. Somebody had
told me about a pharmacy school and I just went
no time in. When you said the word doctoral program,

(02:56):
I went, okay, now she's been there for a minute. Yes,
that's what stopped me from being a lawyer.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
You know.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
So I can go to school and then then then
go to another school, and then so then have to
take a test and then they can tell me, hey,
you dumb. Okay, you're gonna send you back.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Right That final test does matter.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
It does matter. So congratulations on that now. Now, one
of the passions has led to you the development of
your Many Managed consulting company. Please tell us what that's
all about.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Okay, Well, the mission of medi Managed is to just
help build a healthy community, just by providing education on
the safe use of medications. So we want to prevent
medication related problems. We want to help increased medication adherents
and just improve overall health outcomes in our community.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Now when you say overall health outcomes, now, what did
you see? Now because you know medicine. I brought you
on the show because we're talking about you know, the
the children's book. It's not candy, and we're going to
get to that. But it all starts with the adults. Now,
I have a daughter, she's an adult now, but I
remember you know, see you know you put the little

(04:13):
locks on the on the on the on the child
locks on the doors, and then a week later they
opened in the child lock going there.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
See where you did. Good. A lot of people don't
do that. They just leave it lying around. And that's
part of the problem, right.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
It really seriously, it's people are that casual.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
And I'm just talking very honestly because my wife and I,
you know, we have bleaches underneath bleach underneath the cabin.
You have most of the more corrosive or dangerous items
are at the lowest level. Uh put underneath the cabin,
underneath the sink that is reachable for kids and stuff
like that. We don't keep them on the shelves, you know,

(04:56):
we want to hide those things.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
And so so that's what I'm saying is that when you're.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Telling me that, Rashan, what you're doing is kind of
like I would think would be normal if your parent,
and you're telling me. A lot of parents disregard that.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
A lot of parents disregarded. So there was a study
that came out that says medications are a leading cause
of accidental poisoning deaths in children. And so we have
to really get to a point where we're training adults
as well as children just safe medication practices, simple things
just like putting it up and a way and out

(05:34):
of the reach, out of the sight of the children.
Lock it up if you can that we know.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
Then the simple things like that, do you do like
sessions or when you you know, because you know, here's
a dame when you.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
When you.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
Always your parent and just like I am, and your
goal is you want your you want your children to
live you. And so as an adult, the number one
problem as we as adults is that we don't follow
the rules for ourselves. And man, know what I'm saying
is that, you know, it's just an example. I'm not

(06:10):
gonna name a medicine, but some medicine might call for,
you know, the little measuring cup every six hours, and
we'll mess around and say I'm gonna take two measuring
cups or a cup and a half of the measuring cup,
trying to act like that will expedite the healing process.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
You were from us.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Tell my audience to stop doing that.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Please stop doing that, because some medications have a delayed reaction.
You know, we want everything right now, right now, and
so sometimes it has a delayed reaction, and so if
you're compounding it, that is actually overdosing. You're getting too
much of something. And then we have to get better
with measurements, and we're actually on the medical side working

(06:59):
on that. Keeping things like if I say one teaspoonful,
but you might have a cup that has milli leaders
on it, we got to standardize things more. So I
say I'm gonna take one teaspoonful and you have a
cup that has like ten and mils, but you take
the full ten of mils, that's double the dose. And

(07:19):
so we just have to really be knowledgeable arm ourselves.
If you're not sure. I tell people, ask a professional,
axtra pharmacist. Don't just go ahead and go with it.
Ask questions. Try to learn your medications, learn the routine,
learn the measurements. Other little tips like don't hold on

(07:41):
to old medicine, put those things away. Make sure your
doctor knows all of your medications, especially if you use
more than one doctor. Old medicine. Medicine you go to
one doctor or I'll say, medicine that you should no

(08:03):
longer be taken, right, and now your health is improving,
but you want to hold onto this just in case
or something like that. But what happens is some people
get confused on drug names, drug dosages. Things change, So
it's best to get rid of medicine that you should
no longer be taken.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
Okay, Now I went to the pharmacists the other day,
you know, huh, you know, and I've never you know,
I'm gonna just tell you some doctor.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
You seem upbeat.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
You seem like if I go to the pharmacists, I'll
go back there. You're smiling, you're happy. I've never seen
a happy farmacist in my life.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Are they working in the death what's going on? Back
there behind that count. All I want is my medicine.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
But it looked like they want to throw the medicine
peels at me, like they yes, that's going on.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Why is it there are no happy pharmacists?

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Well, you know what, we used to be the happiest
people and it used to be the desired profession, right,
but now there's so many responsibilities placed on the pharmacists
that they don't have time to do their job. And
just imagine, you know, people, you have this mental health crisis,
people coming there with the attitude one. You know, they
go from one to ten. And you know, so you're

(09:19):
dealing with a lot of people. You're dealing with doctors,
you're dealing with customers. So it's just it's a lot
on the pharmacist. So everybody has to be patient with
one another.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Oh really, okay, all I wanted to buy medicine? Okay,
I sent in my little chair. You know, you know,
you go roughly through the little packages I called it in.
You know, please just don't be But I read there
was some issues about the working hours and the workload
that's being put on pharmacies that they were considering striking.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Correct, That is correct, You know, the pharmacists, they have
to give vaccinations, right, they have to talk to the
insurance companies, they have to cancel the patients they have
to deal with, they have to feel the prescriptions. You
may come in with one prescription, but somebody else may
come in with ten to twenty prescriptions. I think you
have hundreds of people like that. So that's why it

(10:14):
takes so long to get your medicine.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
You mean somebody comes in there with seriously, you pharmacists,
I mean one person, Yes, we'll come in.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
There, yes, ten prescriptions.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Absolutely. They call it polymedicine. Some people are just you're
treating one thing. You know, medications have side effects, so
then you got to treat that side effect. So it's
just one thing after another. Then people have multiple diseases,
so they may have heart disease, they may have asthma,
you know, they have all these other things. They may
have some kind of mental health issue going on. So

(10:48):
everything is just compounded and it's not uncommon for someone
to have that many medications. Now see it every day.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Now before we go to our break, how does one
reach out to you if they want to get some information,
follow up more, but learn more about your many managed
consulting company.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Okay, they can go to doctor yo yo dot org
or madymanaged dot org for more information.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Well that was said our real professional.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
And so as we close out this break, you know,
is is there an age you know?

Speaker 3 (11:19):
You have teams?

Speaker 4 (11:20):
You have your first of all, we only show talk
about three and four year old kids, which we're gonna
talk about the next break, and then you have you know,
middle school, then you have high school, then you have
all adults, you know what I'm saying, and then you
have senior citizens of that age group. Is it one
that stands out that says, hey, we need to pay

(11:41):
more attention to our senior citizens or we need to
pay more attention to our teens. Which group do you
think we need to focus on outside of the young
three and four and five year old kids?

Speaker 1 (11:53):
I really think we need to focus on the teams.
The teams are becoming there is more and more drug use.
There's more because of the medications in the home that
may be getting it from the parents, but they're sharing
it at school. So I really think we need to
focus on the teams.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
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(12:31):
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Preventing accidental overdoses, Empowering children with knowledge on medication, and
improving communications between the parents and the children. Please talk
to me about that last statement. I just improving communications
between the parent and the children. And we are talking

(12:51):
about that. What age group are we talking about? The
communication lane that you're.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Discussing, it's really from four years old. You may even
want to start at three years old. Up until nine
to ten years old is a very important age range.
We want to get them before they reach middle school
and before they go to high school to really instill
the importance of medication safety, how to keep themselves safe.

(13:19):
Those are important age That's an important age range right now.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
When you talk about age range, how do you you
an adult? How are you reaching this age range? Being
that you're an adult, you're not their parents, and you're
walking into an environment they're not even kindergarten yet. Okay,
how are you reaching them.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
So when I do these medication safety sessions, I tailor
it towards the age group. So you know, you're talking
to a little four year old, you can't it'll be
different from the nine year old. So I try to
tailor it. Just keep it as simple as possible, No
big words, just like you see this bottle, don't touch it,
you know, things like that. Because all the children, they

(14:06):
are so important, They're so valuable, and I want to
say our elderly are too. I thought about that before
we went to break We're all important, we're all valuable,
but we want to get them early and steal that
training so they can learn how to make good decisions
that would carry on through their adulthood.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Now, with that being said, please elaborate on your vision
for your book, you know, because it's important. I know
it's important. But what motivated you? You know, you know,
was it a personal crisis in your life or a
relative or something you read in the newspaper that said,
you know, I gotta do this.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
It wasn't a personal crisis, but in our ministry, we
would take our youth to a hospital for children with
mental health issues. They were either homicidal or suicidal. And
we were just minister to them and just spread the
love of God and give them hope and joy. And
so just working with children in that aspect just became

(15:04):
a passion of mine. And so the book is based
on actual events I had. When I was in school
working on my clinical I had to create a community
service project and I chose medication safety for children, and
so in that I created a song just to make
it fun, make it memorable, and I have actual demonstrations

(15:25):
when I do the sessions where medicines actually look like
candy and we try to see can they tell the difference,
and most of the time the children and the adults
cannot tell the difference. And so that is my main
motivation because many medication related injuries they are preventable, and

(15:46):
so the book is just designed to help arm and
just equip the parent and the child with knowledge that
would help prevent those medication related injuries or bring harm.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Let's let's bring it home back home to the parent,
because this is the whole issue. You know, you you know,
you can go to these schools, you can talk to
these children that you don't know, but somehow you care
about them. And like you said, there's some parents out
there don't latch cabinets, don't put safety locks on doors,
you know, keep dangerous chemicals and medicines at reachable levels

(16:23):
for these kids. And I say that because of the
fact that candy can look like medicine, sometimes can look
like chick lits, can look like chick lits, and all
these little gum drops and all these things. And so
that means that we have to be even more important
because of the fact that you all of when you're

(16:44):
getting it, and so you can see your child eating something,
you can think they're eating candy.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
You're not thinking anything about am I correct?

Speaker 1 (16:52):
That is so true. And now an even bigger problem
are these edibles that are in the homes that chilling
getting sick from edibles. They're taking it to school and
they're sharing it with each other and they're getting sick.
They're being rushed to the hospital. And I like to
tell people that it was a Virginia mother that was

(17:13):
charged with murder after her first four year old son
dies from eating THHC gummies. So even when we talk
about medications, I have to include edibles because it's so
much marijuana in the homes now that they have to
know that you need to put even those things up
in a way because kids think it's just a tasty snack,

(17:35):
you know, a good looking snack. It may be a cookie,
it may be a gummy, it may be a brownie
or anything like that. So we have to be vigilant
in educating our parents on how to keep their children safe.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
Okay, Now let's talk about the putting together the book. Okay,
because everybody has a bright idea, like you told me,
because I have to slow you down. You the one
told me you knew you heard about this Farmercys school
over it. You just went over there next thing, you know.
It sounded like it was two years. It was eight years. Okay,
So I got to slow you down. When you start
talking about putt together in this book, your inspirational window

(18:10):
is a lot bigger than you lead us to believe.
So what is idea for a book? How did you
start putting it together? And how did you start motivating
yourself that this was something that was necessary to be achieved? Right?

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Okay, So when I got the idea, actually it was
my pastor that sold the seed. She was like, you
need to put that in a book. After the presentation,
but it was until a couple of years later you
go that God reminded me to write the book. It's
like I heard it write the book, and so I
just started researching. I researched for like a year because

(18:45):
I had no idea where to start. So I would
talk to people that had a book. I would research,
Do I self published? Do I go through a publishing company?
So I researched for like a year, and finally I
settled on someone pastor that has a publishing company, and
he just helped me. We put together a team, an editor,
I found an illustrator, and it just went from there.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Now when people listen online here, I also want to
use your approach to advising them if they have a dream,
if they want to write a book, what were some
of the hiccups that you encountered and putting together your dream.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
I tell people, if you have set yourself a budget,
you may want to double it or triple it, because
every step it seemed like I needed more money for it.
It didn't work out, so I had to pay to
get something else done. So and I always tell people
to be patient and don't give up. Just keep edit,

(19:48):
keep researching, surround yourself. I surrounded myself with other authors.
I try to learn from them. I even went to
an author's class. So if it's something they want to
do research, take a class. If you have to just
arm yourself with knowledge. Now it's what I would do.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
Now, doctor Yoyo, are you rapping in it? Are you
rapping on this book? Are you rapping on your music?
I heard the word music tapestry. You know, because doctor
Yoyo sounds like a rapper to me.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Now, okay, you sound I sound like a rapper. I
ask the kids all the times I look like a rapper.
Give them some corny little rap and I'd be like,
oh that's terrible.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
Well, you know, you know you go for your London
to doctor Yoyo, that sounds like you're about to rap here.
But I want to congratulate you because, like I said that,
you know, the company met a man many managed consulting.
It's needed and I want I'm happy I brought you
on the show. As we close, can you tell us
again how we can find out more information and learn
more about your incredible or book. It is not candy

(20:53):
and it's about saving young kids from parents who need help.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yes, you can go to doctor Yoyo dot org or
madimanaged dot org get information. We look to partner with organizations.
We have school districts that buy the books and they
put it in the classroom so the teachers can read
it to the students. Just looking for partners, just to
get the book out there and get the message out

(21:18):
there is the most important thing, because our children are
important and their lives are valuable, and so together we
all can help build a healthy community just by arming
ourselves with that knowledge of medication safety.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
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master Class. You're fantastic. This has been money Making Conversations
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