April 29, 2025 • 13 mins
The Strawberry Letter for Tuesday, April 29th, 2025: "My Husband Thinks Every Man Wants Me"
A woman writes in because her husband's jealousy is getting out of control. It has even started to effect her business...but there may be a little more to the story.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It is time now for today's Strawberry Letter, and if
you need advice on relationships, dating, works, sex, parenting, and more,
please submit your Strawberry Letter to Steve BARBFM dot com
and click submit Strawberry Letter. We could be writing you,
and I mean we could be reading your letter live.
Not we're writing you.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
No, we could be reading your letter live on the
upright myself.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Live on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
So right, oh, please come on, tom right, buckle up
and hold on tight. We got it for it you
here it is letter.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah, I don't know what that was. Thank you. Subject.
My husband thinks every man wants me. Dear Stephen Shirley,
My husband is a very jealous man and I lost
a big client because of him. He thinks I've flaunt
my assets too much wherever I go. I still have
my twenty one year old body and I run all
the time to stay in shape. As one of the
(00:55):
leading mortgage brokers in our area, I am always competing
with a younger women and men. When my husband and
I are out, he gets uncomfortable by how men look
at me, and for the past twenty five years, I've
tried to tell him that it's a good thing. That
I'm still attractive. The biggest issue we always have is
(01:15):
how he interferes with my job. The last time is unforgivable.
I had a multi millionaire couple that was interested in
buying a multi use complex. I told my husband about
it and how much commission I could make. He googled
a man and started hating on him immediately. The evening
of my third meeting with my millionaire client, I told
(01:38):
my husband where I would be, but I did not
mention that the man's wife was enjoining us. They had
seen this space already, so he wanted to give me
an offer. But guess who popped up my husband. As
soon as we were seated, he scooted into the booth
next to me. He greeted my client and made a
comment about it being a romantic business meeting because the
(02:00):
lights were dim. My client knew what was going on,
and he let my husband know it was strictly business
and he was welcome to stay. My husband got offended
by my client giving him permission to be there. As
a result, I lost the business and my husband looks
like Booboo the fool. My husband said that I don't
know how men think. Am I missing something here or
(02:21):
is his jealousy justified? Now, none of this is justified.
Your husband is simply out of line. I mean, this
is business and he blew it for you, which means
he blew it for the family. I mean, yes, he
is jealous and controlling. And how is it your fault
that you still have a nice body and you look good?
I mean, what's wrong with taking care of yourself? I
(02:44):
mean I would think that it would help in your business,
help with your image, help make your profession. You know,
you look good and your profession all of that. It's
a very competitive field, as you mentioned, with a lot
of money to be made. Your husband is not being supportive,
I mean, flighting in the booth with you and you're
on a business meeting. He's blocking and he's losing major
(03:06):
money because of it. You're losing major money. Your husband
and his jealousy are going to be your downfall if
you keep letting this happen. It's affecting your job and
your marriage. Because you're sick of it. You guys need
some counseling. That's what I recommend for you, some therapy
for any of this to work, and I suggest you
do it immediately. If your man won't go to therapy
(03:27):
with you, I just think you should go because this
is a major problem.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Steve, what's she gonna go to therapy before? If he
don't go, she ain't got the problem, he do. Yeah,
but you going to therapy by yourself ain't gonna fix none.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
It'll fix how she reacts and how she deals with
it and how she feels about herself in these situations.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Well, this is the problem that we left out that
we're not looking at.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
The subject is my husband thinks every man wants me.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Okay, my husband is a very jealous man, and this
letter is about her losing a big client because of him.
The reason though, it's in line number two. He thinks
I flaunt my ass sets. He thinks I flaunt my
assets too much wherever I go. Now I hear the problem. See,
(04:26):
everybody want to address this right here. But she says
he thinks she flaunts her assets. What assets are we
talking about? Well, let's break the word down, and the
key word in here is sets, because everything you're flaunting has.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Sets, notable.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
It sets. Now what does a woman have.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
That men are attracted to where she has two of them? Well,
let's start with the august. Two beautiful eyes, two gorgeous lips,
two nice fingernail sets. Now let's get down to business.
You got two breasts, ah, you got two nice legs.
(05:22):
Everything is as sets, and now let's get down to
the key. Your butt has two parts, left and right,
really right butt cheek and a left butt cheek. Everything
comes in sets. So your husband thinks you flaunch your
(05:42):
assets too.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Much wherever I go.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Now let's get into a deeper I still got my
twenty one year old body, and I run all the
time to stay in shape. As one of the league
more brokers in our area. I'm competing with younger women
and me. So now she's telling you, I'm competing with
young amoenmen and women and men.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I got to come out here cracking. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
So, now that's why she's flaunting her assets because she
still has her twenty one year old body.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
My husband I out. He gets uncomfortable how.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Men look at me for the past twenty five years
because you are flaunting your assets.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And he's insecure. Yeah, we come back. All of this
has come to a head.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Hang on, Steve, We'll have part two of your response
coming up at twenty three minutes after the hour of
today's Strawberry Letters, subject my husband thinks every man wants me.
We'll get back into it right after this. You're listening
Steve Hardy Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And there are a lot of reasons to like Hyundai.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Hyundai's done a lot to support American consumers. I mean,
they announced their investment of twenty one billion dollars in
the United States over the next three years that will
expand manufacturing and create more jobs for Americans.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
And they just announced that they will not be raising
MSRP through June second, no matter what. Called five six'
two three one four four six zero three for more.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Details all, right come, on see let's recap Today's strawberry.
Letter the subject is my husband thinks every man wants.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Me and the reason he thinks this is because you
say he's a jealous.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Man he could.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Be and the reason for this letter is you've lost
a big climb because of. Him but here's the reason
he thinks THAT i the ladies, saying is he thinks
THAT i flaunt my assets too much WHEREVER i. Go,
assets As i've explained to, you is always means comes in.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Tunes.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Sex assets can be, eyes, legs, Hands but the assets
that draws the most attention when you're out in. Public
years you have two breasts and two butt, cheeks and
that's what you are. Flaunting you ain't out here batting your.
(08:23):
Eyes see when you walk, by don't nobody see your face,
then so we don't care about your, lips all your.
Eyes and when we see you coming, them headlights is.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
On. See so now we got a.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Problem and she, SAYS i still have my twenty one
year old, body AND i run all the time to
stay in shape Because i'm a leading mortgage broke in
my area AND i have to compete with the younger
men and. Women and the way she's competing is flotting her.
Assets it's obvious, here but that's. Okay you want your
wife to still be. Flying but she, says when we,
(09:00):
out my husband gets uncomfortable how men look at me
for the past twenty five. Years so let's do a
little bit of. Math if she still got her twenty
one year old body and he been looking at that
for twenty one, years let's just say she forty six
(09:20):
and got it. CRACKING i tried to tell him it's
a good thing That i'm still. Attractive you wouldn't have
had to told me, that because it is a good
thing that you're still, attracted because once you're not attracted
him no, more we're not Gonna we're not gonna be
here this man of visual and women are Too and
if your man becomes, unattractive you ain't gonna like that,
(09:40):
either and you.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Should the Biggest i've tried to tell, him it's a
good thing.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Anyway the biggest issue we have is now here interfield
with your, job and this last time is.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Unforgivable or what did he?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Do he had a multimillion dollar couple that was interested
in buying a multi use. Complex he googled the man
and started hating on. Him he meeting it because the
man was. Rich your husband got some real insecurities going.
On hein in shape like he used to, be his
half falling, down he got a little. Potbelly he got
(10:16):
same old job you out, here possibly making them more
money than. HIM i told, him AND i told my
husband WHERE i would, be and WHAT i didn't mention
him that the man's wife wasn't joining.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Us they had seen the.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Space, already so he wanted to give me an. Offer
so guess who popped up.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
My.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Husband as soon as we got, seated he scooted in
the booth next to, me greeting my client and made
a comment about it being a romantic business meeting because
the lights were. Dim could possibly. BE i, mean you
are very attracted and you do flaunt your. Assets the
head in this boot for you by. Yourself hubby that
(11:08):
jumped in the car and found out where he was,
at he probably got a track on your. Car, anyway
he found out where he was, at slid into the.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Booth now your client knew what was going.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
On he let your husband know it was strictly business
and he was welcome to. State well what else he gonna?
SAY i mean y'all sitting there all the. Others he
could have made the offer over the. Phone he could
have made the off at your. Office he could have
made the off. Anyway but this dinner come on. HIM
i see this right. Here then your husband got offendited
(11:40):
by he was given permission to. State as a, RESULT
i lost the business and my husband like. Boo my
husband looked like, boo.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Boo the. Food my husband, SAID i don't know how men, think.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
And you, don't, ladies if you really knew how we,
thought meaning what?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Shock so in this, case how does that apply with
the he.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Saw the, assets.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
He knows she, Fined i'm gonna make an, offer BUT
i ain't gonna bring my wife and you didn't bring your.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Husband, now if.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
You agree to, it is you think this whole hour of,
dinner we're just gonna be talking about that.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
BUILDING i promise you he.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Won't he's not gonna stay on, subjects not sitting across
from an attractive woman in a. Restaurant we got buttons
that automatically click in. Us your husband is, right you
don't know? Men AM i missing something? Here or is
his jealousy? Justified, well it's jealousy's justified because he's. Insecure,
(12:45):
now he'd have messed up your money and it's.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Unforgivable. Now even though he slid in the booth and was.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Able to tell the Man i'm, here this looked like
A bomanic business, dinner because that's what it looked, like.
Y'ALL a man at a restaurant that's dimly, lit y'all
in the. Booth how you think this man for the
city and talk about this building for?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Now so the fact that the Man, steve the millionaire
didn't give her the money is no longer her. Client
is that proof that he wanted?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
More come on, Now i'm, yes it's.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Crazy, oh since your husband like, this ain't no need
us doing.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Business, well what if you want the, building get the building,
Exactly but maybe if you.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Want it more than the. Building now a husband look
like he already gonna be a. PROBLEM i can buy
the building from somebody, else all.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Right post your comments on Today's Strawberry letter At STEVE
harbfm On instagram And, facebook and check out The Struwberry
letter podcast on the Free iHeartRadio App Free Never Sounded So.
Good you can download It today you're listening to The
Steve Harvey Morning show
It is time now for today's Strawberry Letter, and if
you need advice on relationships, dating, works, sex, parenting, and more,
please submit your Strawberry Letter to Steve BARBFM dot com
and click submit Strawberry Letter. We could be writing you,
and I mean we could be reading your letter live.
Not we're writing you.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
No, we could be reading your letter live on the
upright myself.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Live on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
So right, oh, please come on, tom right, buckle up
and hold on tight. We got it for it you
here it is letter.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah, I don't know what that was. Thank you. Subject.
My husband thinks every man wants me. Dear Stephen Shirley,
My husband is a very jealous man and I lost
a big client because of him. He thinks I've flaunt
my assets too much wherever I go. I still have
my twenty one year old body and I run all
the time to stay in shape. As one of the
(00:55):
leading mortgage brokers in our area, I am always competing
with a younger women and men. When my husband and
I are out, he gets uncomfortable by how men look
at me, and for the past twenty five years, I've
tried to tell him that it's a good thing. That
I'm still attractive. The biggest issue we always have is
(01:15):
how he interferes with my job. The last time is unforgivable.
I had a multi millionaire couple that was interested in
buying a multi use complex. I told my husband about
it and how much commission I could make. He googled
a man and started hating on him immediately. The evening
of my third meeting with my millionaire client, I told
(01:38):
my husband where I would be, but I did not
mention that the man's wife was enjoining us. They had
seen this space already, so he wanted to give me
an offer. But guess who popped up my husband. As
soon as we were seated, he scooted into the booth
next to me. He greeted my client and made a
comment about it being a romantic business meeting because the
(02:00):
lights were dim. My client knew what was going on,
and he let my husband know it was strictly business
and he was welcome to stay. My husband got offended
by my client giving him permission to be there. As
a result, I lost the business and my husband looks
like Booboo the fool. My husband said that I don't
know how men think. Am I missing something here or
(02:21):
is his jealousy justified? Now, none of this is justified.
Your husband is simply out of line. I mean, this
is business and he blew it for you, which means
he blew it for the family. I mean, yes, he
is jealous and controlling. And how is it your fault
that you still have a nice body and you look good?
I mean, what's wrong with taking care of yourself? I
(02:44):
mean I would think that it would help in your business,
help with your image, help make your profession. You know,
you look good and your profession all of that. It's
a very competitive field, as you mentioned, with a lot
of money to be made. Your husband is not being supportive,
I mean, flighting in the booth with you and you're
on a business meeting. He's blocking and he's losing major
(03:06):
money because of it. You're losing major money. Your husband
and his jealousy are going to be your downfall if
you keep letting this happen. It's affecting your job and
your marriage. Because you're sick of it. You guys need
some counseling. That's what I recommend for you, some therapy
for any of this to work, and I suggest you
do it immediately. If your man won't go to therapy
(03:27):
with you, I just think you should go because this
is a major problem.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Steve, what's she gonna go to therapy before? If he
don't go, she ain't got the problem, he do. Yeah,
but you going to therapy by yourself ain't gonna fix none.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
It'll fix how she reacts and how she deals with
it and how she feels about herself in these situations.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Well, this is the problem that we left out that
we're not looking at.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
The subject is my husband thinks every man wants me.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Okay, my husband is a very jealous man, and this
letter is about her losing a big client because of him.
The reason though, it's in line number two. He thinks
I flaunt my ass sets. He thinks I flaunt my
assets too much wherever I go. Now I hear the problem. See,
(04:26):
everybody want to address this right here. But she says
he thinks she flaunts her assets. What assets are we
talking about? Well, let's break the word down, and the
key word in here is sets, because everything you're flaunting has.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Sets, notable.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
It sets. Now what does a woman have.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
That men are attracted to where she has two of them? Well,
let's start with the august. Two beautiful eyes, two gorgeous lips,
two nice fingernail sets. Now let's get down to business.
You got two breasts, ah, you got two nice legs.
(05:22):
Everything is as sets, and now let's get down to
the key. Your butt has two parts, left and right,
really right butt cheek and a left butt cheek. Everything
comes in sets. So your husband thinks you flaunch your
(05:42):
assets too.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Much wherever I go.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Now let's get into a deeper I still got my
twenty one year old body, and I run all the
time to stay in shape. As one of the league
more brokers in our area. I'm competing with younger women
and me. So now she's telling you, I'm competing with
young amoenmen and women and men.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I got to come out here cracking. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
So, now that's why she's flaunting her assets because she
still has her twenty one year old body.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
My husband I out. He gets uncomfortable how.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Men look at me for the past twenty five years
because you are flaunting your assets.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And he's insecure. Yeah, we come back. All of this
has come to a head.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Hang on, Steve, We'll have part two of your response
coming up at twenty three minutes after the hour of
today's Strawberry Letters, subject my husband thinks every man wants me.
We'll get back into it right after this. You're listening
Steve Hardy Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And there are a lot of reasons to like Hyundai.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Hyundai's done a lot to support American consumers. I mean,
they announced their investment of twenty one billion dollars in
the United States over the next three years that will
expand manufacturing and create more jobs for Americans.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
And they just announced that they will not be raising
MSRP through June second, no matter what. Called five six'
two three one four four six zero three for more.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Details all, right come, on see let's recap Today's strawberry.
Letter the subject is my husband thinks every man wants.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Me and the reason he thinks this is because you
say he's a jealous.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Man he could.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Be and the reason for this letter is you've lost
a big climb because of. Him but here's the reason
he thinks THAT i the ladies, saying is he thinks
THAT i flaunt my assets too much WHEREVER i. Go,
assets As i've explained to, you is always means comes in.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Tunes.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Sex assets can be, eyes, legs, Hands but the assets
that draws the most attention when you're out in. Public
years you have two breasts and two butt, cheeks and
that's what you are. Flaunting you ain't out here batting your.
(08:23):
Eyes see when you walk, by don't nobody see your face,
then so we don't care about your, lips all your.
Eyes and when we see you coming, them headlights is.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
On. See so now we got a.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Problem and she, SAYS i still have my twenty one
year old, body AND i run all the time to
stay in shape Because i'm a leading mortgage broke in
my area AND i have to compete with the younger
men and. Women and the way she's competing is flotting her.
Assets it's obvious, here but that's. Okay you want your
wife to still be. Flying but she, says when we,
(09:00):
out my husband gets uncomfortable how men look at me
for the past twenty five. Years so let's do a
little bit of. Math if she still got her twenty
one year old body and he been looking at that
for twenty one, years let's just say she forty six
(09:20):
and got it. CRACKING i tried to tell him it's
a good thing That i'm still. Attractive you wouldn't have
had to told me, that because it is a good
thing that you're still, attracted because once you're not attracted
him no, more we're not Gonna we're not gonna be
here this man of visual and women are Too and
if your man becomes, unattractive you ain't gonna like that,
(09:40):
either and you.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Should the Biggest i've tried to tell, him it's a
good thing.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Anyway the biggest issue we have is now here interfield
with your, job and this last time is.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Unforgivable or what did he?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Do he had a multimillion dollar couple that was interested
in buying a multi use. Complex he googled the man
and started hating on. Him he meeting it because the
man was. Rich your husband got some real insecurities going.
On hein in shape like he used to, be his
half falling, down he got a little. Potbelly he got
(10:16):
same old job you out, here possibly making them more
money than. HIM i told, him AND i told my
husband WHERE i would, be and WHAT i didn't mention
him that the man's wife wasn't joining.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Us they had seen the.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Space, already so he wanted to give me an. Offer
so guess who popped up.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
My.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Husband as soon as we got, seated he scooted in
the booth next to, me greeting my client and made
a comment about it being a romantic business meeting because
the lights were. Dim could possibly. BE i, mean you
are very attracted and you do flaunt your. Assets the
head in this boot for you by. Yourself hubby that
(11:08):
jumped in the car and found out where he was,
at he probably got a track on your. Car, anyway
he found out where he was, at slid into the.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Booth now your client knew what was going.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
On he let your husband know it was strictly business
and he was welcome to. State well what else he gonna?
SAY i mean y'all sitting there all the. Others he
could have made the offer over the. Phone he could
have made the off at your. Office he could have
made the off. Anyway but this dinner come on. HIM
i see this right. Here then your husband got offendited
(11:40):
by he was given permission to. State as a, RESULT
i lost the business and my husband like. Boo my
husband looked like, boo.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Boo the. Food my husband, SAID i don't know how men, think.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
And you, don't, ladies if you really knew how we,
thought meaning what?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Shock so in this, case how does that apply with
the he.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Saw the, assets.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
He knows she, Fined i'm gonna make an, offer BUT
i ain't gonna bring my wife and you didn't bring your.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Husband, now if.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
You agree to, it is you think this whole hour of,
dinner we're just gonna be talking about that.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
BUILDING i promise you he.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Won't he's not gonna stay on, subjects not sitting across
from an attractive woman in a. Restaurant we got buttons
that automatically click in. Us your husband is, right you
don't know? Men AM i missing something? Here or is
his jealousy? Justified, well it's jealousy's justified because he's. Insecure,
(12:45):
now he'd have messed up your money and it's.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Unforgivable. Now even though he slid in the booth and was.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Able to tell the Man i'm, here this looked like
A bomanic business, dinner because that's what it looked, like.
Y'ALL a man at a restaurant that's dimly, lit y'all
in the. Booth how you think this man for the
city and talk about this building for?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Now so the fact that the Man, steve the millionaire
didn't give her the money is no longer her. Client
is that proof that he wanted?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
More come on, Now i'm, yes it's.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Crazy, oh since your husband like, this ain't no need
us doing.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Business, well what if you want the, building get the building,
Exactly but maybe if you.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Want it more than the. Building now a husband look
like he already gonna be a. PROBLEM i can buy
the building from somebody, else all.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Right post your comments on Today's Strawberry letter At STEVE
harbfm On instagram And, facebook and check out The Struwberry
letter podcast on the Free iHeartRadio App Free Never Sounded So.
Good you can download It today you're listening to The
Steve Harvey Morning show
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