Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Robin Wilson.
A clean design and wellness expert.
🎙️ Main Themes
- Clean Design Philosophy: Robin emphasizes creating allergen-aware, eco-friendly, and sustainable home environments.
- Health and Wellness: She discusses how indoor allergens—especially from pillows, bedding, and clothing—can significantly impact asthma and allergy sufferers.
- Personal Stories: Rashawn shares his own struggles with allergies and how small changes, like replacing a pillow, dramatically improved his health.
- Practical Tips:
- Take off shoes and outerwear at the door.
- Wash hands and change clothes after being outside.
- Replace pillows every 3 years and wash protectors regularly.
- Use non-toxic cleaning alternatives like toothpaste and baking soda.
🛏️ Robin’s Book: Clean Design – Wellness for Your Lifestyle
- A room-by-room guide to reducing allergens and toxins.
- Includes practical advice and beautiful imagery from her design work.
- Inspired by her personal experience with asthma and allergies.
🛍️ Retail Presence
- Robin’s brand, Clean Design Home, is available at Macy’s, Belk, and Bed Bah and Beyond.
- Focused on being the top allergen-aware lifestyle brand.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
I am Rashan McDonald, a host of weekly Money Making
Conversation Master Class show. The interviews and information that this
show provides are for everyone. It's time to stop reading
other people's success stories and start living your own. If
you want to be a guest on my show, please
visit our website, Moneymakingconversations dot com and click to be
a guest button Chris submit and information will come directly
(00:23):
to me. Now, let's get this show started. My guest
next guest is a clean design lifestyle expert and echo
friendly design, sustainability and hyperallergenic issues. She's an ambassador to
the Asthma and Allergy Foundation of America and previously served
on the board of the Sustainable Furnishings Council. Please welcome
(00:43):
to the Money Making Conversation Masterclass. Robin Wilson. How are
you doing, Robin?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I am doing well. How are you well?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Robin?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I got this fantastic looking book called Clean Design Wellness
for your Lifestyle and you autographed it. Thank you. That
means I get to keep it now. Now this is
a book. My wife is going to take this from
me because it's all these amazing pictures and she's always
on me, robbing about take off your shoes, shake your
(01:12):
coat before you bring it in the house. You know,
I'm so annoyed. I just ignore her, and then we
go into another conversation that we won't do on the show.
But she's after reading your book. I gotta say, Honey,
I apologize. I should have been listening to you, I forget.
I gotta go public with this. I apologize because after
reading your book, she has been absolutely telling me to
(01:35):
do the right thing. And I may have had a
much more breathing, a better breathing environment in my home
if I have listened to her talk about your company
and your brand clean Design.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Well, first of all, thank you for having me on
the show, and I wanted to let you know that
one in five people suffer from asthma or allergy. That
sixty million Americans. And one of the first places we
think of is the weeding and sneezing outside, But we
forget about our homes, which absolutely should be a sanctuary
(02:10):
for easy breathing. And so your wife is right.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
You had to go back because he's gonna record this
because I want to talk to the public here, the
general public in the sense that you know, we assume
a lot of things. We walk through life, you know,
you know, we go out there into pollend, you know,
we complain about it, and then we just come right
back into our house with that pollen, with that with
(02:37):
those flakes you may not see, and we might just
sit on the sofa. We might even dive into our
bed and watch TV. All that is what you're talking about,
and you're trying to tell us to stop and realize
that we are carriers.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Correct, Well, I think the first thing to say is
when you walk into your home, take your shoes off,
take your hat off, take your coda, and try to
leave all of that outside air, outside pollen and any
other issues at your doorstep, and then create a safe
(03:12):
home environment, not just for you but for your children.
A lot of people our get that your shoes. In
some places, you could be walking across a park and
you never know what's happened on the grass or on
that parkway. And so you don't want E. Coli in
your home, for example, you don't want other toxins in
(03:34):
your home. But my book Clean Design Home was actually
my second book. We've created a lifestyle brand over twenty
four years. I am the first black woman American woman
to have a global lifestyle brand focused on the allergen
aware consumer. We are sold at fifty one Macy stores
(03:54):
from Guam to Puerto Rico. We're at fifty six Belk
stores on Wayfair, Shopify, and every branch of the military.
Actually the TX basis have our brand. That should show
you that it is a problem that people are trying
(04:15):
to find a solution to and our Clean Design Home
brand hopes to be and remain the number one allergy
and aware brand. You might notice I'm not using the
term hypoallergenic. I say that because Jane Doe might be
allergic to something and the next person is not. So
I by saying allergy and aware, we actually are trying
(04:37):
to make sure people know what's in their product so
they can make a decision about what works for their skin,
or their or their environment at their home.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I remember you know, Robin, First of all, thank you
for coming on my show to talk about clean design,
talk about lifestyle, talk about the home, and we want
to get in detail in your book because I travel
a lot on the airplane in a nine flower of mask,
you know, and I'm very comfortable flying with a mask,
but every once in a while, I see people get
on the plane caring this little beat up pillows, you know,
(05:09):
these a little ugly pillows that I mean like, you know,
this pillow then saw another life. This pillow saw another life.
And I go and in my mind, I go, that pillow.
First of all, it is coming on a plane, and
then it's and it's being hugged up by this person.
And then this plane is this pillow is going off
on the plane. And you have a story about pillows
(05:29):
in your book that you talk about. I'm allowing you
to tell everybody about those pillows that we sometimes have
fallen in love with. We need to be doing something
else with them, call them putting them in the trash.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Well, you are so funny. I actually asked someone recently.
I was I spoke to a big group and I said,
when was the last time each of you washed or
replaced your pillow? And there was just a wave of
groans and grimaces across the room, and I said to
when I said, the average answer is six years. But
(06:03):
they're the outliers that have had their pillows since college
and they're now in their forties. So that's pretty gross.
When you think about the Dan dress, the paula and
the drool in any other number of passage pens that
could be in your pillow. But I make it funny
when I say to someone, break up with your pillow.
(06:25):
Get a pillow. And there's a simple test. If you
can fold your pillow over and it stays in place,
it probably weighs more now than when you bought it.
Pillows should pop back, you know, you fold it a
little bit and it just pops back into place. That's
a pretty healthy pillow. One of the things most people
(06:46):
don't know is I have a rule of threes because
you could actually wash a down alternative pillow. That means
that if you think about your pillow as an ecosystem
in and of itself, you can wash the pillow cover
every three weeks, wash the pillow protector that means a
(07:09):
zippered pillow protector every three months, and then every three years.
If you haven't done all those things, you need to
replace your pillows. Think like the batteries, you know, I
receive this, and then on top of that, it's also
a beauty story. Have you ever wondered when you're traveling,
you go to a hotel and you come back looking
so refreshed, and everybody's like, oh my god, you look
so good. What happened, you know? And you're like, oh,
(07:32):
it's so great. Three days later, you're stuffed up, you
have circles under your eyes again. And what you may
be doing is sleeping on a dirty pillow. And that
means when you think about a hotel, they're refreshing their
pillows all the time. You come home to that pillow,
you should be breaking up less right, and you should
(07:54):
absolutely go to Clean Design Home to check us out.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Well, that's why you're in the show because I'm gonna
share a couple of stories about I think some people
need to hear the truth. You know, I'm not the
person who I remember in about two thousand and one,
I was always coughing.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I was.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I mean, it was to a point I was coughing
so much that I'm submit was just I didn't really
I'm not saying suicidal, but it was just constant cough.
It was just a constant cough, and it was just
frustrating me because I didn't know how to get rid
of it. It wasn't a cold cough, it was a constant cough.
(08:30):
And that was and eventually learned that was tied to
my pillow in my Los Angeles apartment. Because what happened
was I traveled so much a Robin, and because I traveled,
I never could figure out where it was, you know,
And it turned out I was allergic to that pillow
that I don't know what the pillow was. Once I
got rid of that pillow, my cough went away. And
(08:50):
that's what we're talking about clean design, making sure the
environment you stay in. And then another story was when
I found out I was eventually found out I was
allergic to to feathers, to feathers, and I was in Austin,
my daughter was tourings you plantennas in my wife and
I just broke out and I was just laying on
(09:13):
a sofa and that's when I discovered I was allergic
to feathers. And again you have to I have to
realize these patterns, and these patterns can really lead to
a lifestyle that could be you know, it can kill you,
and not only not only kill you, can frustrate you.
And so when you wrote your book Clean Design, what
(09:35):
was the basic purpose of it?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Robin?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I think that the premise goes back to I grew
up with allergies and asthma. I jokingly say I was
the labrat for my lifestyle, and a lot of people
today recognize that allergens can create or allergic reactions can
create a chronic inflammation in your body. That means when
you really get sick, you're a I mean sistance weak.
(10:01):
So I recommend always using a down alternative pillow because
it can be washed. Number one. I also recommend that
you try to protect your mattress with a mattress protector
and also protect your pillow with a pillow protector. So
let me take it to another place I grew up
in Austin's exits. I'm surprised you mentioned mentioned oie and
(10:25):
I call it a weaving and stays in capital the
world right because it's blooming all year round, beautiful greenery,
and so you leave and feed outside, and if you
don't have certain protocols inside, then you're also weaving sneezing inside.
I also believe that a lot of people don't realize
and when they read the book, they'll learn that the
(10:45):
same pollen profile that you might be able to grasp
or a tree, you can come inside and eat a
fruit from that same profile. Or vegetable from that same profile,
and it will cause you to just double up your
load of allergens. And so let's say you're allergic to
(11:07):
grass or to trees, and then you come in and
eat a cucover, it might be the exact same pollen profile.
And so I'm trying to educate people about simple steps
they can use to protect themselves, especially during allergy and
asthma season in May, as you know, is allergy and
asthma awareness months. So you're way ahead of the curve
(11:29):
in talking about this subject.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Well have to because of the fact that it personally
impacts me, impacts my family, my daughter and my wife,
And if you don't realize what's going on, it can
run a relationship, can ruin your experience socially, can make
your sleeping habits can be impacted by It can make
you a grumpy person. It can make you a person
(11:52):
that people don't want to be around because you don't
understand what's bothering you. And that's what the clean design
is all at. And let me just before we go,
we're going to go to break to a minute, and
I want to just set up what we're going to
talk about it on the backside of this break clean
design is a room by Room Guy by Robin Wilson,
who I'm speaking to. She is an expert in creating
a wellness lifestyle and a lifelong allergy and asthma. She's
(12:16):
a life zone allergy and asthma sufferer just like me.
I'm an allergy sufferer, and this book will enable you
to eliminate and manage allergy triggers which I had to
find and had to discover and create a comfortable and
non toxic home environment before we go to break When
(12:37):
people come to you, I'm pretty sure people get pretty emotional, because,
like I said, when I was coughing in Los Angeles,
you know, I won't say the word suicide, but I
really didn't feel like living because it was just really
really bad and I was just constantly coughing and coughing.
(12:57):
It was always in the morning because I was during
the morning show with Steve Morning Show from six am
to ten am, and that whole run I was it
was about six months. I was just constantly coughing. And
so when people come to you and say thank you,
I'm pretty sure you get it. Can't get pretty emotional, correct.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Robin certainly and especially when it's a parent or a
child who maybe they've been rushing their child to the
emergency rooms in the middle of the night, and I
simply will say, change the pillow, test the pillow, change
the sheets, and dust under the bed, and a few
other places like get the ceilings and clean clean from
(13:35):
the top down. You give them simple tips and the
next thing you know, you get that nice letter and
they're told if they're telling me that their child isn't
doing ADHD medication anymore because they're getting a full night.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Sleep, please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with
more Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money
Making Conversations Masterclass, hosted by Rashaan McDonald.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I'm speaking to Robert Wilson, and you're listening to Money
Making Conversation Masterclass. Her book Clean Design Wellness for your Lifestyle.
When you this book is a beautiful book. By the way,
it was a lot of uh can one say it's
a coffee table book because it has that feeling with
all these beautiful photos and imagery, But it has so
much information that you you can't leave it on the
(14:27):
coffee table because you need to be reading this in
your bed, or reading that you're drinking coffee, reading it
at your office breaks because there's so much vital information
that can change a person's lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yeah, well, I those are all my designs from my
design work over the last you know, period of time.
With my client's permission, we published photos of their spaces.
But this book is a primer. It's not meant to
be read cover to cover. There's this for each room.
There's a kitchen, there's the nursery, there's flipped off or
(14:58):
you can read it, learn what you need to learn,
put it away, come back to it as you need to.
And so if you read it cover to cover it
will feel repetitive. But a lot of people gain so
much information. You learn simple things that I pay actually
homage to my grandmother who was a housekeeper in the
(15:19):
era of the help, and she had a book and
back then you didn't have the commercial cleaners that you
find in the grocery store. She used linen, juice and
toothcaste and baking soda and coca cola, And so people
are like coca cola and say, yeah, did you know
(15:39):
you can pour coca cola in your toilet overnight and
If you have a ring, it will be gone in
the morning with a little elbow grease. If you have
a child who puts crayon on the wall, you can
use toothpaste to get that crayon off instead of putting
a toxic cleanser at their nose level. And you can
also clean the tile in your bathroom and make it
(16:00):
white with toothpaste. Simple tips to prevent your home from
being overloaded with chemical Wow.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Uh, you know, I was just smiling when I was
listening to this information, because you know, when I get home,
my wife gonna be she won't be just wagging a finger,
but she will have a lot to say because she's
a She's like a kindred spirit with you. With this
information you have in this book. Now, we talked about
the entryways and the mud rooms. Now I'm gonna tell
you what I do. I come home, you know, put
(16:30):
my keys down, I unloaded the doorway. I guess you
can call that the entryway of the mudroom area, you know.
And then I then I come and I just flop
in the middle living room and I turn on the
room ote and I'm watching TV. Okay, what mistakes? If
you know what I've just said, I've done.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Did you take your shoes off? No? Did you maybe
wash your hands and then change your clothes? So you
have I call it your city street clothed, and then
you have your lunge wear that you have at home. No,
so you put whatever. Let's say you rode the train
that day, or you were in the park. You just
(17:11):
put all that pollen or whatever on your couch.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
So this is what she does. She goes, wash your hands.
I ain't got time for all that. I ain't got
timehile all I wanted to drink a glass of water,
wash your hands, I did so. So I'm saying that
I'm hearing the truth because of the fact that these
are things that I resist, and I eventually do it
with a little naggy and I wash my hands, and
(17:35):
h I grab her fruit, and then she said, wash
your hands before you before you eat that. And of
course I put the fruit on the water. But then
you know, is my hands washed?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Andy? If you if you were to imagine, and this
sounds really gross, but if you were to imagine that
every surface you touch, you got some glitter on your fingers.
Every surface, So that means you touch the railing on
the train, You touched your door handle, you touched your uh,
(18:07):
maybe you have to put gas in your cars. You
touch that pump that a million people have touched, and
so on. And then you come inside and you touch
a plate of food. How much glitter would be on
your fingers?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Mmm mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Now if you say those were germs right some your
body right now, maybe can fight it off. Maybe it can't,
but now you are putting that inside of you. Just
have that moment right, So now you wash your hands,
takes you the happy birthday. Saw wash your hands right,
(18:45):
and now you're now at least you've mitigated some of
the germs. That's all.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
But it's all about effort. It's all about consistency and
when you when you was going. Because in your book,
you go from room to room, you go from into ware,
you go to the living room. You talk about the kitchen,
you talk about the bedroom where you spend one thirty
of your life, baby nursery, bathroom, home offices, larger room, basement, garages,
and addicts. I'll do a living So you break it down,
(19:13):
you let there are no excuses to people going, Okay, Robin,
what about the attic? Okay, I got I got something
for you. Hey Robin, what about my bedroom? I got
something for you. Hey Robin, what about the kitchen? I
got something for you? Because you want to make sure
that when people when you talk to your honest about
clean design. You want to make sure this is how
(19:33):
you can design and live a good life. And that's
important to you. Correct, right it is.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I said this to someone recently. If you tomorrow were
diagnosed with diabetes, you're going to probably do whatever the
doctor tells you to do if you recognize that asthma
is a chronic condition, just like diabetes. In fact, before COVID,
(19:59):
I think the fourth leading cause of death, you would
do what your doctor says, and what he often will
say or she will say, is you need a clean environment.
You need to make sure you watch what you eat.
You need to have a clean pillow and bedding. You
need to dust your home. You need to take your
(20:20):
sees off at the front door. And you need to
make sure first and foremost that if you bring pollen
into the house, either you wash your hair or you
know what do you call it? You brush it out,
or you wear a sleep cap or something something to
(20:40):
make sure you're not turning over in the middle of
the night and having that reaction. Now, what is that reaction?
That's what most people are like, why is it three
in the morning. I don't feel well? And I remind
them that during the day, we have something called cortisol.
It's a stress hormone all others to get through the
day and all the stressful things we encounter, and at
(21:03):
some point it leaves your body. It goes to a
lower level so you can sleep and go into rim sleep. Well,
that's about the time when that stressful lungs gone, which
is when your body can react, for lack of a
better word, so reactions can be. When people think about this,
they are exema, hay fever, and asthma are all in
(21:28):
the same family. So you might wake up with a
rash on your arm, on your base that could be
an excellent reaction. You might wake up with the cough
or the wheezing that might be your hay fever reaction,
and you might have a full on asthma attack. All
in the same family, different degrees and different manifestations. Now,
(21:53):
if you just do simple steps to manage the triggers,
than the likelihood that it will go to full on
asthma attack is less just the same way in diabetes. Right,
if you you know, eat well, don't you know, binge
(22:15):
on a chocolate bar at the wrong time, The likelihood
you're going to go into full diabetic coma is very low, right,
And that's what people don't understand. And really, asthma is
like you're choking. You can't you can breathe in all
you want, but you can't breath out.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
It's like you're.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Suffocating from the inside out. It's very scary if you've
had an asthma attack.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Robin.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
As we close out the show, we've been talking about
your book, Clean Clean Design Wellness for your lifestyle, but
also want to remind people if you can your retail brand,
your platforms, where your designs are available in retail stores
across the country.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
The floors yours well. You know, Clean Design Home is
a lifestyle brand. We're sold, like I said, Macy felt
wayfair fed back beyond every branch, the military, the number
one hour dinner where brands. We hope that people will
visit at Clean Design Home on Instagram and Facebook and
(23:15):
friend us and also shop us. We want to really
push the one stop shop for a healthy lifestyle to
everyone and especially the one in five people who suffer
from asthma analogies.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Robert, thank you for coming on Money Making Conversation.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Mastically.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I'm glad you can time change my life and a
love me. Tell on the store and share with the
people and let them know that you know. Look, you
can be hard headed, you can not change, and guess what,
the only person who's going to not benefit from that
is you and your family. So change and again, thank
you for coming on my show.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Robin, Thank you here. Sean, have a wonderful day.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
This has been another edition of Money Making Conversation Masterclass
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Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
I am Rashan McDonald, a host of weekly Money Making
Conversation Master Class show. The interviews and information that this
show provides are for everyone. It's time to stop reading
other people's success stories and start living your own. If
you want to be a guest on my show, please
visit our website, Moneymakingconversations dot com and click to be
a guest button Chris submit and information will come directly
(00:23):
to me. Now, let's get this show started. My guest
next guest is a clean design lifestyle expert and echo
friendly design, sustainability and hyperallergenic issues. She's an ambassador to
the Asthma and Allergy Foundation of America and previously served
on the board of the Sustainable Furnishings Council. Please welcome
(00:43):
to the Money Making Conversation Masterclass. Robin Wilson. How are
you doing, Robin?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I am doing well. How are you well?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Robin?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I got this fantastic looking book called Clean Design Wellness
for your Lifestyle and you autographed it. Thank you. That
means I get to keep it now. Now this is
a book. My wife is going to take this from
me because it's all these amazing pictures and she's always
on me, robbing about take off your shoes, shake your
(01:12):
coat before you bring it in the house. You know,
I'm so annoyed. I just ignore her, and then we
go into another conversation that we won't do on the show.
But she's after reading your book. I gotta say, Honey,
I apologize. I should have been listening to you, I forget.
I gotta go public with this. I apologize because after
reading your book, she has been absolutely telling me to
(01:35):
do the right thing. And I may have had a
much more breathing, a better breathing environment in my home
if I have listened to her talk about your company
and your brand clean Design.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Well, first of all, thank you for having me on
the show, and I wanted to let you know that
one in five people suffer from asthma or allergy. That
sixty million Americans. And one of the first places we
think of is the weeding and sneezing outside, But we
forget about our homes, which absolutely should be a sanctuary
(02:10):
for easy breathing. And so your wife is right.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
You had to go back because he's gonna record this
because I want to talk to the public here, the
general public in the sense that you know, we assume
a lot of things. We walk through life, you know,
you know, we go out there into pollend, you know,
we complain about it, and then we just come right
back into our house with that pollen, with that with
(02:37):
those flakes you may not see, and we might just
sit on the sofa. We might even dive into our
bed and watch TV. All that is what you're talking about,
and you're trying to tell us to stop and realize
that we are carriers.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Correct, Well, I think the first thing to say is
when you walk into your home, take your shoes off,
take your hat off, take your coda, and try to
leave all of that outside air, outside pollen and any
other issues at your doorstep, and then create a safe
(03:12):
home environment, not just for you but for your children.
A lot of people our get that your shoes. In
some places, you could be walking across a park and
you never know what's happened on the grass or on
that parkway. And so you don't want E. Coli in
your home, for example, you don't want other toxins in
(03:34):
your home. But my book Clean Design Home was actually
my second book. We've created a lifestyle brand over twenty
four years. I am the first black woman American woman
to have a global lifestyle brand focused on the allergen
aware consumer. We are sold at fifty one Macy stores
(03:54):
from Guam to Puerto Rico. We're at fifty six Belk
stores on Wayfair, Shopify, and every branch of the military.
Actually the TX basis have our brand. That should show
you that it is a problem that people are trying
(04:15):
to find a solution to and our Clean Design Home
brand hopes to be and remain the number one allergy
and aware brand. You might notice I'm not using the
term hypoallergenic. I say that because Jane Doe might be
allergic to something and the next person is not. So
I by saying allergy and aware, we actually are trying
(04:37):
to make sure people know what's in their product so
they can make a decision about what works for their skin,
or their or their environment at their home.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I remember you know, Robin, First of all, thank you
for coming on my show to talk about clean design,
talk about lifestyle, talk about the home, and we want
to get in detail in your book because I travel
a lot on the airplane in a nine flower of mask,
you know, and I'm very comfortable flying with a mask,
but every once in a while, I see people get
on the plane caring this little beat up pillows, you know,
(05:09):
these a little ugly pillows that I mean like, you know,
this pillow then saw another life. This pillow saw another life.
And I go and in my mind, I go, that pillow.
First of all, it is coming on a plane, and
then it's and it's being hugged up by this person.
And then this plane is this pillow is going off
on the plane. And you have a story about pillows
(05:29):
in your book that you talk about. I'm allowing you
to tell everybody about those pillows that we sometimes have
fallen in love with. We need to be doing something
else with them, call them putting them in the trash.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Well, you are so funny. I actually asked someone recently.
I was I spoke to a big group and I said,
when was the last time each of you washed or
replaced your pillow? And there was just a wave of
groans and grimaces across the room, and I said to
when I said, the average answer is six years. But
(06:03):
they're the outliers that have had their pillows since college
and they're now in their forties. So that's pretty gross.
When you think about the Dan dress, the paula and
the drool in any other number of passage pens that
could be in your pillow. But I make it funny
when I say to someone, break up with your pillow.
(06:25):
Get a pillow. And there's a simple test. If you
can fold your pillow over and it stays in place,
it probably weighs more now than when you bought it.
Pillows should pop back, you know, you fold it a
little bit and it just pops back into place. That's
a pretty healthy pillow. One of the things most people
(06:46):
don't know is I have a rule of threes because
you could actually wash a down alternative pillow. That means
that if you think about your pillow as an ecosystem
in and of itself, you can wash the pillow cover
every three weeks, wash the pillow protector that means a
(07:09):
zippered pillow protector every three months, and then every three years.
If you haven't done all those things, you need to
replace your pillows. Think like the batteries, you know, I
receive this, and then on top of that, it's also
a beauty story. Have you ever wondered when you're traveling,
you go to a hotel and you come back looking
so refreshed, and everybody's like, oh my god, you look
so good. What happened, you know? And you're like, oh,
(07:32):
it's so great. Three days later, you're stuffed up, you
have circles under your eyes again. And what you may
be doing is sleeping on a dirty pillow. And that
means when you think about a hotel, they're refreshing their
pillows all the time. You come home to that pillow,
you should be breaking up less right, and you should
(07:54):
absolutely go to Clean Design Home to check us out.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Well, that's why you're in the show because I'm gonna
share a couple of stories about I think some people
need to hear the truth. You know, I'm not the
person who I remember in about two thousand and one,
I was always coughing.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I was.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I mean, it was to a point I was coughing
so much that I'm submit was just I didn't really
I'm not saying suicidal, but it was just constant cough.
It was just a constant cough, and it was just
frustrating me because I didn't know how to get rid
of it. It wasn't a cold cough, it was a constant cough.
(08:30):
And that was and eventually learned that was tied to
my pillow in my Los Angeles apartment. Because what happened
was I traveled so much a Robin, and because I traveled,
I never could figure out where it was, you know,
And it turned out I was allergic to that pillow
that I don't know what the pillow was. Once I
got rid of that pillow, my cough went away. And
(08:50):
that's what we're talking about clean design, making sure the
environment you stay in. And then another story was when
I found out I was eventually found out I was
allergic to to feathers, to feathers, and I was in Austin,
my daughter was tourings you plantennas in my wife and
I just broke out and I was just laying on
(09:13):
a sofa and that's when I discovered I was allergic
to feathers. And again you have to I have to
realize these patterns, and these patterns can really lead to
a lifestyle that could be you know, it can kill you,
and not only not only kill you, can frustrate you.
And so when you wrote your book Clean Design, what
(09:35):
was the basic purpose of it?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Robin?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I think that the premise goes back to I grew
up with allergies and asthma. I jokingly say I was
the labrat for my lifestyle, and a lot of people
today recognize that allergens can create or allergic reactions can
create a chronic inflammation in your body. That means when
you really get sick, you're a I mean sistance weak.
(10:01):
So I recommend always using a down alternative pillow because
it can be washed. Number one. I also recommend that
you try to protect your mattress with a mattress protector
and also protect your pillow with a pillow protector. So
let me take it to another place I grew up
in Austin's exits. I'm surprised you mentioned mentioned oie and
(10:25):
I call it a weaving and stays in capital the
world right because it's blooming all year round, beautiful greenery,
and so you leave and feed outside, and if you
don't have certain protocols inside, then you're also weaving sneezing inside.
I also believe that a lot of people don't realize
and when they read the book, they'll learn that the
(10:45):
same pollen profile that you might be able to grasp
or a tree, you can come inside and eat a
fruit from that same profile. Or vegetable from that same profile,
and it will cause you to just double up your
load of allergens. And so let's say you're allergic to
(11:07):
grass or to trees, and then you come in and
eat a cucover, it might be the exact same pollen profile.
And so I'm trying to educate people about simple steps
they can use to protect themselves, especially during allergy and
asthma season in May, as you know, is allergy and
asthma awareness months. So you're way ahead of the curve
(11:29):
in talking about this subject.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Well have to because of the fact that it personally
impacts me, impacts my family, my daughter and my wife,
And if you don't realize what's going on, it can
run a relationship, can ruin your experience socially, can make
your sleeping habits can be impacted by It can make
you a grumpy person. It can make you a person
(11:52):
that people don't want to be around because you don't
understand what's bothering you. And that's what the clean design
is all at. And let me just before we go,
we're going to go to break to a minute, and
I want to just set up what we're going to
talk about it on the backside of this break clean
design is a room by Room Guy by Robin Wilson,
who I'm speaking to. She is an expert in creating
a wellness lifestyle and a lifelong allergy and asthma. She's
(12:16):
a life zone allergy and asthma sufferer just like me.
I'm an allergy sufferer, and this book will enable you
to eliminate and manage allergy triggers which I had to
find and had to discover and create a comfortable and
non toxic home environment before we go to break When
(12:37):
people come to you, I'm pretty sure people get pretty emotional, because,
like I said, when I was coughing in Los Angeles,
you know, I won't say the word suicide, but I
really didn't feel like living because it was just really
really bad and I was just constantly coughing and coughing.
(12:57):
It was always in the morning because I was during
the morning show with Steve Morning Show from six am
to ten am, and that whole run I was it
was about six months. I was just constantly coughing. And
so when people come to you and say thank you,
I'm pretty sure you get it. Can't get pretty emotional, correct.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Robin certainly and especially when it's a parent or a
child who maybe they've been rushing their child to the
emergency rooms in the middle of the night, and I
simply will say, change the pillow, test the pillow, change
the sheets, and dust under the bed, and a few
other places like get the ceilings and clean clean from
(13:35):
the top down. You give them simple tips and the
next thing you know, you get that nice letter and
they're told if they're telling me that their child isn't
doing ADHD medication anymore because they're getting a full night.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Sleep, please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with
more Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money
Making Conversations Masterclass, hosted by Rashaan McDonald.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I'm speaking to Robert Wilson, and you're listening to Money
Making Conversation Masterclass. Her book Clean Design Wellness for your Lifestyle.
When you this book is a beautiful book. By the way,
it was a lot of uh can one say it's
a coffee table book because it has that feeling with
all these beautiful photos and imagery, But it has so
much information that you you can't leave it on the
(14:27):
coffee table because you need to be reading this in
your bed, or reading that you're drinking coffee, reading it
at your office breaks because there's so much vital information
that can change a person's lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yeah, well, I those are all my designs from my
design work over the last you know, period of time.
With my client's permission, we published photos of their spaces.
But this book is a primer. It's not meant to
be read cover to cover. There's this for each room.
There's a kitchen, there's the nursery, there's flipped off or
(14:58):
you can read it, learn what you need to learn,
put it away, come back to it as you need to.
And so if you read it cover to cover it
will feel repetitive. But a lot of people gain so
much information. You learn simple things that I pay actually
homage to my grandmother who was a housekeeper in the
(15:19):
era of the help, and she had a book and
back then you didn't have the commercial cleaners that you
find in the grocery store. She used linen, juice and
toothcaste and baking soda and coca cola, And so people
are like coca cola and say, yeah, did you know
(15:39):
you can pour coca cola in your toilet overnight and
If you have a ring, it will be gone in
the morning with a little elbow grease. If you have
a child who puts crayon on the wall, you can
use toothpaste to get that crayon off instead of putting
a toxic cleanser at their nose level. And you can
also clean the tile in your bathroom and make it
(16:00):
white with toothpaste. Simple tips to prevent your home from
being overloaded with chemical Wow.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Uh, you know, I was just smiling when I was
listening to this information, because you know, when I get home,
my wife gonna be she won't be just wagging a finger,
but she will have a lot to say because she's
a She's like a kindred spirit with you. With this
information you have in this book. Now, we talked about
the entryways and the mud rooms. Now I'm gonna tell
you what I do. I come home, you know, put
(16:30):
my keys down, I unloaded the doorway. I guess you
can call that the entryway of the mudroom area, you know.
And then I then I come and I just flop
in the middle living room and I turn on the
room ote and I'm watching TV. Okay, what mistakes? If
you know what I've just said, I've done.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Did you take your shoes off? No? Did you maybe
wash your hands and then change your clothes? So you
have I call it your city street clothed, and then
you have your lunge wear that you have at home. No,
so you put whatever. Let's say you rode the train
that day, or you were in the park. You just
(17:11):
put all that pollen or whatever on your couch.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
So this is what she does. She goes, wash your hands.
I ain't got time for all that. I ain't got
timehile all I wanted to drink a glass of water,
wash your hands, I did so. So I'm saying that
I'm hearing the truth because of the fact that these
are things that I resist, and I eventually do it
with a little naggy and I wash my hands, and
(17:35):
h I grab her fruit, and then she said, wash
your hands before you before you eat that. And of
course I put the fruit on the water. But then
you know, is my hands washed?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Andy? If you if you were to imagine, and this
sounds really gross, but if you were to imagine that
every surface you touch, you got some glitter on your fingers.
Every surface, So that means you touch the railing on
the train, You touched your door handle, you touched your uh,
(18:07):
maybe you have to put gas in your cars. You
touch that pump that a million people have touched, and
so on. And then you come inside and you touch
a plate of food. How much glitter would be on
your fingers?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Mmm mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Now if you say those were germs right some your
body right now, maybe can fight it off. Maybe it can't,
but now you are putting that inside of you. Just
have that moment right, So now you wash your hands,
takes you the happy birthday. Saw wash your hands right,
(18:45):
and now you're now at least you've mitigated some of
the germs. That's all.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
But it's all about effort. It's all about consistency and
when you when you was going. Because in your book,
you go from room to room, you go from into ware,
you go to the living room. You talk about the kitchen,
you talk about the bedroom where you spend one thirty
of your life, baby nursery, bathroom, home offices, larger room, basement, garages,
and addicts. I'll do a living So you break it down,
(19:13):
you let there are no excuses to people going, Okay, Robin,
what about the attic? Okay, I got I got something
for you. Hey Robin, what about my bedroom? I got
something for you. Hey Robin, what about the kitchen? I
got something for you? Because you want to make sure
that when people when you talk to your honest about
clean design. You want to make sure this is how
(19:33):
you can design and live a good life. And that's
important to you. Correct, right it is.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I said this to someone recently. If you tomorrow were
diagnosed with diabetes, you're going to probably do whatever the
doctor tells you to do if you recognize that asthma
is a chronic condition, just like diabetes. In fact, before COVID,
(19:59):
I think the fourth leading cause of death, you would
do what your doctor says, and what he often will
say or she will say, is you need a clean environment.
You need to make sure you watch what you eat.
You need to have a clean pillow and bedding. You
need to dust your home. You need to take your
(20:20):
sees off at the front door. And you need to
make sure first and foremost that if you bring pollen
into the house, either you wash your hair or you
know what do you call it? You brush it out,
or you wear a sleep cap or something something to
(20:40):
make sure you're not turning over in the middle of
the night and having that reaction. Now, what is that reaction?
That's what most people are like, why is it three
in the morning. I don't feel well? And I remind
them that during the day, we have something called cortisol.
It's a stress hormone all others to get through the
day and all the stressful things we encounter, and at
(21:03):
some point it leaves your body. It goes to a
lower level so you can sleep and go into rim sleep. Well,
that's about the time when that stressful lungs gone, which
is when your body can react, for lack of a
better word, so reactions can be. When people think about this,
they are exema, hay fever, and asthma are all in
(21:28):
the same family. So you might wake up with a
rash on your arm, on your base that could be
an excellent reaction. You might wake up with the cough
or the wheezing that might be your hay fever reaction,
and you might have a full on asthma attack. All
in the same family, different degrees and different manifestations. Now,
(21:53):
if you just do simple steps to manage the triggers,
than the likelihood that it will go to full on
asthma attack is less just the same way in diabetes. Right,
if you you know, eat well, don't you know, binge
(22:15):
on a chocolate bar at the wrong time, The likelihood
you're going to go into full diabetic coma is very low, right,
And that's what people don't understand. And really, asthma is
like you're choking. You can't you can breathe in all
you want, but you can't breath out.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
It's like you're.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Suffocating from the inside out. It's very scary if you've
had an asthma attack.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Robin.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
As we close out the show, we've been talking about
your book, Clean Clean Design Wellness for your lifestyle, but
also want to remind people if you can your retail brand,
your platforms, where your designs are available in retail stores
across the country.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
The floors yours well. You know, Clean Design Home is
a lifestyle brand. We're sold, like I said, Macy felt
wayfair fed back beyond every branch, the military, the number
one hour dinner where brands. We hope that people will
visit at Clean Design Home on Instagram and Facebook and
(23:15):
friend us and also shop us. We want to really
push the one stop shop for a healthy lifestyle to
everyone and especially the one in five people who suffer
from asthma analogies.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Robert, thank you for coming on Money Making Conversation.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Mastically.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I'm glad you can time change my life and a
love me. Tell on the store and share with the
people and let them know that you know. Look, you
can be hard headed, you can not change, and guess what,
the only person who's going to not benefit from that
is you and your family. So change and again, thank
you for coming on my show.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Robin, Thank you here. Sean, have a wonderful day.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
This has been another edition of Money Making Conversation Masterclass
posted by me Rushaun McDonald. Thank you to our guests
on the show today and thank you for listening to
audience now. If you want to listen to any episode
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