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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If you're about to make a change in your life
and you feel uncomfortable, that's the best feeling you can
have because for the first time in your life, you'll
makeing a decision that's going to be best for you
and not what somebody told you to do, and that's
when all bets are off. Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass.
I'm your host with Sean McDonald. Our theme is there's
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no perfect time to start following your dreams. I recognize
that we all have different definitions of success.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
For you and maybe decide to.
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Your Aham, it's time to stop reading.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Other people's success stories to start living your own. Keep winning.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I am your host with
Sean McDonald. Like I say every week when I start
my episodes, it's time to stop reading other people's success
stories and start writing your own. And I always tell
people they talk about gifts, they talk about passion. If
you have these gifts, leave with your gifts and they'll
let your friends, your family, or your age stop you
from planning or living your dreams. The interviews I do
on Money Making Conversation with consumers, celebrities, CEOs, entrepreneurs, and
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what I like to call industry decision makers, and they're
from all walks of life. My next guest is a
former NFL star, Herman Moore. Herman isn't the football player
who now owns a business. He's a businessman who happens
to have played professional football. Football is his playing career.
That's something he did, Like everybody has something they've done
in their past.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
But should you hold on to it? And he's made
that transition as.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
A very successful NFL analysts promoting products as a vendor Centabon.
I love Centabon business consultant, corporate and nonprofits. He has
been trading cryptocurrency, which I know nothing about, and I'm
not saying he's an expert. Well, we definitely got to
talk about that because that has been the top of
my list, has been the headlines of every financial trade
magazine the last couple of years.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Is Crystal Currency.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
And he is the founder of what all these products
you see in front of me, Golden Grooming Company.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I've had this product for about a.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Month the schedule interview, but guess what, I've been sneaking
and using it. Now you know, you kind of hold
on to it, and it's product so good. And this
little comb right here I'm holding up. It sits on
my desk because I have everybody know I have a
nice little beer that keep my beer tight.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
The company's mission is to help black young men and
adult men look and feel their best, because we believe
that when you look good, you feel good, and then you.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Also do good. Please welcome the money making conversation, Herman.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Moore, pleasure. Thank you very much for having me.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Hey, Herman, I'm telling you man, this is right here
because my staff, they said with Sean, we finally got
her onin and I said, hey man, I kind of
know him because this little comb here sits on my
desk every day, so at least for three or four
times on my face. And so these are the type
of products that you have for Golden Grooming that makes
everything accessible and makes it comfortable for a person like
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me can carry in your bag. I can, like this
little comb right here, I can slip it into my
top pocket and nobody would ever notice it.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Correct, that's correct.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
What we look for is I mean, it's something that
I think we all need to pay attention to, especially
when you're looking at trying to make sure you present
yourself as your best. And we know that when you
feel good and you look good, you do good.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I mean, that's just that's just the fact.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
And I think if we provide those products, and we
not just products, but high quality products at an affordable price,
that allows us to be able to make an impact there.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Well, you know the interesting thing about all your products,
cause they send me this nice little line from the
brush to like off air.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I shared a little secret with you.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
You have this small patch solid colonne, which I've never
seen in my life. You know, we all know colognes
coming a little squirt bottle, a little spray you have.
What what what made you think of this idea? Because
I love it? And again something else I care with
me when I travel, So it really it makes me
believe that you are a forward thinking individual because you're
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thinking of things that a person like me who's super busy,
who wants to stay groom but also likes to smell good,
but not I would like to use the word discreetly
and also carried con neccessories discreetly but still have them
available because they have high quality. Talk about this this
small past solid cologne.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yeah, The solid cologne is a nice little product because
when you typically use aerosol or you use a spray,
there's a lot of it that's being lost in the air,
and you know when you're trying to transition it from
that actual packaging to your body or your fabric or
wherever you place your colone. With this, it's just an
application that is simply you rub it on and it
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stays on pretty good. It really has nice sense and smells.
We're going to be coming out with a different line,
so the solid colone. It not only gives you a further,
a longer yield in terms of the product, but it
also gives you the convenience that you've mentioned of being
able to take it with you wherever you want and
if you want to, you know, just tap it in
and refresh up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
You do that. I can't take credit for that. That
is our our development team.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
That is our scientists and our chemist that we have
that constantly are working on ways to provide better quality
products and also just innovative products to the marketplace.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Well, you know this is why I love it because
of the fact you're absolutely right, because you've seen some
people they spread in the air and.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
They walk into the walk into the aroma of this scent.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Or sometimes when I have the aerosol I pointed towards
me and then it hits sometimes on my clothes, not
exactly where I want it, and then I finally have
control of my cologne. That's what I really like about it.
If I want to put it on my neck, I
want to put it on my wrist. I feel comfortable
with that. And I really really think that this is
something I've never seen this before. That's why I have
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to bring it up at the top of our conversation Hermann,
because of the fact that I know you're giving credit
to somebody else for doing it, but.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
You have to be the visionary and bringing it to
the stores. Correct.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
And we always look at also coming you mentioned earlier
some of my earlier ventures like Centabon, and we looked
at everyone had to have, for instance, like the cinnamon
role was a big cinnamon role and you had to
have the knife and the fork to eat it. Then
we started getting into what was called mini's because we
wanted to have something that was a little bit more affordable.
It has a different functionality to it. That's no different.
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You have to constantly look at ways to improve and
innovate within your product category or your service category. And
that's what allows you to be a distinguish yourself and
differentiate yourself from the competition. But also you're also addressing
a need anytime you can solve problems. And then also
we can also eliminate waste and add profitability to our company,
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but also give a greater yield to the customer.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
You're giving a minute of a mutually beneficial.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Value back, and I will take credit in the fact
that that is what we look for. That's what I
look for all the time, because you want to make
sure that you have a very balanced business approach.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I'm gonna just tell some man by cenebo i w
I was just gonna say it as a cret, you know,
but you're gonna just bring it up in our conversation.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
So now you're because I'm a desert nothing. Everybody knows
that about me.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Now you have the minis and then you have the
regular huge one. And I like to get that right
when they putting the putting the cream on top, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I like it when you know it's hot.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I'm just telling you man, and so I'm gonna just
tell you it's the same bond now, the Mini and
the regular, but the regular tastes so much better.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I'm just gonna let you hear it.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
For some reason, getting that big old piece of bond
and breaking it up and taking that fark and separating it,
you can't go wrong.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Man.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I know, I know the whole packaging about the minis,
but those those giants, I call them giants since you
have the minute now, but those are.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
The way to go, man, the regular size of the
way to come.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I can tell you this.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
I could tell you're not eating many of those because
those things packed calories.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Everybody, don't let the sounds.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
That was roll with love.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
It was, and we had that to make sure that
we know, hey, Sean's coming in and make sure his
has got that extra icing on it and.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
A glass of milk.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Come on, now, brother, you you're gonna run me out
that store. We're gonna run me out that store. And
I really you know, being let's go a little history
because I'm a football fan and so I know about
your athletic abilities on the field, but we all know
there is a time that you're going to realize.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
That you can't play anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
You can hear it every day average life, especially a
football player.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Maybe five years, five or six years of a full
time NFL player.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Now, when did you start transitioning mentally into saying I
want to be what is my life after football?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Well? I started doing it.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
My career ended in two thousand and two, and I
really started making that transition my final year two thousand
and two thousand and one. I started reading for about
a year and learning a little bit about the industries
that I wanted to approach. Understanding also was I going
to basically start to a startup or was I gonna
take on a franchise system.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
And I chose to go with Mailbox, Etc.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Which was my very first franchise that I purchased, and
then from there I ended up becoming the second largest
center bond partner, owning all of Florida and all of
Michigan stores. And during that process, I assembled and put
together a team that will help me with the operations
because that wasn't my background.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
My background is in marketing and communications.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
But I want to make sure I surrounded myself with
those that would give me the right advice. Now we'll
say this you can put all the people around you
that you want, but if you don't understand what they're
doing and the direction that they're leading you or the
information that they're giving you, then it's really not doing
you that great of because because then it's all based
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on who they are and the character that they possessed,
on whether or not they're leading down the right path.
So I learned I had some bumps and bruises in there,
But at the same time, it's allowed me to become
a very disciplined business owner now going through all those experiences.
So it'd be tough to change any of those things.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
See, I've been keeping you in business.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Now that you say you in Florida and all that,
I actually have been keeping you in business because I
used to go to Orlando all the time because they
got a center bond right there in Orlando that I
would go into all the time. But when I look
at you as a leader, because this is this is
about leadership, this is about team by walking in because
you're also saying you you you because I'm assuming you're
based in the Detroit area of my correct that's correct. Okay,
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So when you saying you have businesses that are not drivable.
How do you maintain that level of management, that level
of professionalism to make sure you're meeting your your bottom
line and your expectations of service to people, even though
you can't just walk in the door and check.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah, Well, what I did is interesting.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
I've always been into technology, and getting involved with this
allowed me to bring some of the discipline only as
an athlete and just having this very regimented process on
which we go by, but I brought the concept of
team knowing that it was more than just myself.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
So you when you talk about that leadership, it's no different.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
It's transitioning that into the business world and knowing that
you're willing to go in not only learn all the
things that my employees were doing and my team members,
but also to show them that I was willing to
put in the work. And and by doing that, they
saw I was an absentee owner, that I was very
much hands on, but I wasn't so much where it
was granular and that I was micro managing them, but
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I was showing that there was there was an expectation,
that there was accountability on all levels from your top down. Uh,
and then from there it's it's really learning from your mistakes.
You're going to make mistakes in business, You're going to
make mistakes in life. It's all about what do you
do with those lessons in those those things that don't
quite work sometimes and the things that do work well,
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how do you utilize that to help you continue along
that path? And for me, I was able to take
all of those elements and really start to develop what
I call a playbook. So it's again bringing in a
lot of those that you know. I don't try and
use the analogy of sports all the time, but it
is is developing a playbook that leads you down this
path to success, and that that's really been all about it.
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So watching my business, when you mentioned that I put
technology in place, I actually started to develop a back
end piece on our pint of sale systems which will
allow me at that time to receive real time receipts
to my computer, which wasn't was unheard of at that
point because you typically had to get the printt receipts
and then have everyone fact that to you.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
But we're able to develop programs to do that.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
And every time I've been part of any type of
business or startup, I've looked at what resources are available,
including technology as being a platform and a foundation of
that work.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Well, you know, an interesting thing is when I listened
to you, your articulation, your professionalism.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
You just happen to play football Herman, you.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Know, because I consider Magic Johns are a good friend
of mine. And you know, even before he became a
basketball start, he wanted to be a business owner. He
wanted to be an entrepreneur, and he's and he's shown
it after his basketball life has ended, he's equally as
a Hall of Famer in the business world as he
has been on the basketball court. What did it all
start for you? This mentality to be an entrepreneur? What
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did it start for you know, you came from a
single parent home. Talk about that upbringing that shifted you
in this direction about where you are at.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Today, It was always you know, it goes back to
my youth.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
I started out in school and I was in the
head Start program, which has been in the news as
of late in some areas. And you're giving you're already
put at a limitation sometimes before you get started.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I noticed when I went into a college or high school,
I was.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Always directed into courses that were really weren't challenging me.
They weren't going to They weren't going to stretch me
or put me in a place where I get to
go and say, okay, can I test and utilize all
the ability that I have now? They give me that
opportunity in sports when they can see that potential in
the athleticism, But why can't you see that pretend my
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ability from a mental standpoint and from an intelligence standpoint,
and quite often sometimes we start to buy into that.
So I stopped buying into that long into you know,
very early into my football career.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Midway through my.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
College career, I started realizing that, you know what, I'm
not going to take these classes just that it's going
to keep me eligible. I want to take classes that
were going to provide me a career any event that
football doesn't work out, because it's not going to be
long term transition that into the football professional football stage.
I started to see that as much as we think
we're in control, we don't own the team. We don't
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own the ability to really create our faith. You could
be a great player, and at that time I was
doing really well. But if I have a disagreement with
my coach, he still has the ability, just as an
owner of a business to basically fire me or let
me go. So I want to make sure I always
had control of my destiny. And from there I decided
I would never settle for good when great is available.
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And I heard that one place, and I say, you
know what, going forward, everything that I do, I'm always
going to push me envelope. I'm always going to try
and figure out disruption in a good way.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Not in a negative way, yes, but one that.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Would always say am I truly trying and achieving at
that level that is afforded to me as a person,
as an individual.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
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Speaker 1 (15:43):
You know, it's really interesting when I hear you because
you know the modern athlete, And I said the modern
athlete maybe the last I put you in that modeln
athlete group, because it was after two thousand that the
mentality change it was all about you know.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Football and then football in and in.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Players were just shocked, you know what they was going
to do with the next step. Now we have the
modern athlete who are planning after the game. You know,
a classic modern athlete is Lebron James. A classic modern
athlete is Magic John's. A classic modern athlete is Jef Curry.
You are a classic modern athlete, but you are earlier
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than them.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
So who are your role models?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Herman to point you in the right direction that you
should be like this, that you should be prepping for this,
because you seem to have laid a great foundation for
a future as an entrepreneur post football.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
All right.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
So being in Detroit, we are around a lot of
very successful former athletes like Bennie Johnson owning and running
a billion dollar enterprise, Dave being former basketball player, professional
basketball player, becoming a mayor as well as having successful businesses.
I watched Magic Johnson. I looked at how he started
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to manned his brand, not just on the basketball court,
but what he started to do in terms of getting
the value out of that, not just I'm going to
show up and be the face of something, but actually
owning it. That that was impowerble and impactful for me
to see Michael Jordan going in and saying, you know what,
I'm gonna have a brand that runs a line if
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I want to stand in the sports world that we have
with the Nike, but I'm gonna have my own brand
that is just that is solely him, and it's going
to run parallel but just as powerful and more recognized
than even that. And he elevates Mike in my opinion,
So it's it's those are the people that.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I can look at.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
And there's many, many more, I'm sure if I really
start to think back about it, But I said, you
know what, I see people who are pet have paved
the way out of a profession like mine, and that
you can talk about entertainment, you can talk about actors
and actresses, you can talk about successful business people as
a whole. But if the playbook is there, right, you
just have to be a student and willing to. And
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I was listening to Tdjason one time. He talked about
how sometimes we run behind opportunities, sometimes we run ahead
of it, but we got to figure out a way
in which we put ourselves to where we're running parallel
after where.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
We're not missing it.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
We're not there before we're supposed to be, and we're
not behind it, always never being able to catch up.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
And I've tried to figure out the position myself that way.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
And so you can take all these things in and
you have a recipe, but you got to be willing
to put in the work.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Well you know that the key is we is work.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
But also when I read on your history, it's always
about young people here, like even the Golden Groom, it's
about young people preparing themselves, looking professional, feeling good about themselves.
And then you have a new an entrepreneurship program or
your foundation tackle life foundation that you have you launched
already or what stage is it of that foundation called
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tackle life. We're just like tackling somebody, but tackling life
instead of a player on the field. So you're about
tackling life. And that's the foundation that it's based on.
Talk about it.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
So the Tap of Life Foundation, I actually started running
it as a private organization in two thousand and nine.
Then I got my foundation certified in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
And I've always done camps.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
I've always done something that would try and bring empowerment
or have a touch point with young adults to where
we can still touch them and influence their foundational growth.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
And what I see is that you have to be able.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
To reach back and it's not about what I do
and what's appealing to me, but it's what does the
world itself offer and how do we extract those different
abilities in the mindset from individuals say who am I?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
And how can.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
I take this knowledge or this opportunity and apply it
to my vision and my goal. So everything that we
do has been around that. We've done programs from computer programming,
so we design websites and build different types of projects
that require We also now are into e gaming and
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e sports, which is a big thing. There's grants and scholarships,
especially at HBCUs that are getting really big into the
sports and e gaming platforms with this entrepreneurship program. If
you look at the African American community, we're very entrepreneurial. However,
the failure rate is high because we don't have access
to not only the partnerships, the revenue, the tools.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
When I go on I meet with these large manufacturers.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
The first thing I saw for Sean was that they
mentioned they would love I want to name these big retailers.
These are your major major retailers. They said, you know what,
we want the African American products. We want the minority
based products. But you know what, the product quality isn't there,
the labeling isn't there. They don't have the systems and
the logistics to be able to handle the workload or
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the capacity of.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
The distribution that we need. They don't have these these things.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Well, question I have for them is are you providing
resources through your manufacturing partner to afford them that opportunity
and not many work?
Speaker 3 (21:04):
And then I looked at who we were.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
And that's what spawned this entrepreneurship program to say, we
are a manufacturer. We're not relying on someone to help us.
We get the raw goods. We also, through teammateing for
my parent company, we do logistics and transportation and procurement
and all these things and packaging.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
So we know what we'll do this ourselves.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
We'll create an entrepreneurship program to help us bring those young,
aspiring people in who would love to learn about manufacturing
of products and services that we offer, and then we
would team up with them to actually launch that vision.
And we're going to create this marketplace. So we've already
started this program under leadership of a person I brought
in who's done a great job.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Her name is chrissy's Avacar.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
She's our chief marketing and communications officer, but she also
runs our program. And we're gone, we're on our way,
and we already have identified about four or five different
companies or that we're going to start with youth. So
we're very excited, very very excited about it. And it
costs them nothing, right, that's the beautiful thing. What's not
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going to cost them any things?
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Well, let's slow it down and talk about it because
you said a lot, but you mentioned your communication director
and your CMO, and we know the name Tackle Life
Foundations started in twentusand and nine official twenty sixteen, which
was officially recognized as a foundation. How does one is
it a limited amount of students young adults? Is it
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the age requirements? What are the requirements for participating in
the Tackle Life Foundation opportunities?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Well, for that particular program, the Entrepreneurship program, it starts
with the age of eighteen. We will go below that,
but you have to get parents involved and then you're
executing documents with them. So we're looking at for those
particular programs at a different age group. Right, we don't
necessarily play cap because people could be entrepreneurial all their lives, yes,
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and for us, we don't put respects the limitations there.
And to qualify for that, we've created a website we
put we picked a few groups to work with. We're
working with the juvenile justice system to work with some
that are incarcerated and or are getting out that need
to have a place and a vision, So we wanted
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to start where areas of need would be there. We're
also working with some of the youth organizations where we
will handslect a few that have vision to come in
and participate in our program. But we're going to open
this up and if you qualify, that'll be great. But
we will do you know, some contract manufacturing as well.
I have to mention that for those that are looking
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for partnerships that will help them scale so they don't have.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
To do it out their house, right.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Uh, So they can definitely reach out to us and
at that capacity, and we're going to do as much
as we can within our means to be able to help.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Well, I would tell you this, I want to know
more and I would love to learn more be a
part of this for you, uh my talents. I've been
doing this since I was eighteen years old, uplifting educating
by my backgrounds degrees in mathematics.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
My mind and sociology.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Work five years for IBM, so I have a executive
training and I'm an entrepreneur. So and hearing this for
the first time on this show, I'm gonna just let
you know if you're looking for volunteers, always know I'm available.
I'm not just saying that because I'm on this show
trying to get in.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Good good with you. Because I already got my grooming stuff.
I don't need you no more.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
But I just know that what you're doing is important,
especially for men of color. And if I'm in a
position to help you, I will help you.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
I really appreciate that, and by all means I will
reach out because I can't do it alone.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
So I appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Cool.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Well, I'm gonna go to switch skars to another subject
that I know nothing about, but it's making the headlines.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Crypto currency. First of all, explain to my.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Listeners and viewers what exactly is cryptocurrency.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Depends on who you're speaking with.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
The there are many of us who think that it
is a decentralized service in the financial market that allows
very seamless transactions and the purchase of of of just
basically this this coin that people think is just a
fantom value, but it is a way in which to
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be able to move dollars around in a digital space
versus using fiat, which is you know what we use now,
the American dollar, or something that is more physical and
tangible that's tied to a some type of collateral. But
it's something that I think it's worth looking at. And
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as I mentioned to you earlier, I'm not an expert
on it, but what I've learned is I look at
the value of systems, I look at blockchain technology, and
I look at a way in which you improve on
some of the deficiencies that you find in the financial system.
And that's what I think is grown. Has pretty much
grown quite a bit, and it's caught the attention of
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many of those in the financial space. But the regulations
are a lot lighter than what in unregulated than what
you see in the central banking system. But as those
things get ironed out, I think there is a play here.
I don't think it's going away. Well, I'm pretty sure
it's not. You can put regulations there, but there's just
too many places and parts of the world, and it's
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a global participation. This isn't just about the United States.
So for me, I mainly just play around with some
of the smaller coins, but I will find some that,
especially the ethereum, that is.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Where I put more of my time and effort.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Well, before I close, you know, we talked about the
Golden Grooming, which I like. I said, this is at
my desk every day. I'm letting you know Herman, I
use this.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I use this.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Man makes me feel good. I like to believe it
makes me look good. Okay, that about it. Right there,
I'm grooming brother, right in front of you on this interview.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
But more importantly, we talked about you're giving back. We
talk about your ability to run a country from running
run your business from.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
State across this country. I love it, Tay you. It's
a great interview, man.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I appreciate the product promoting your products, and my newsletter
on my social media got like a million followers. So
I've just been waiting to get you on the show.
And I have some friends of mine. I'm gonna tell
her about tell her the contact with me. I'll geting
my boy steven A. Smith on your show soon. Asie
all the pre said you can entertain. I'm gonna let
them know about the show. So I just want to
help you blow up man, because you're a great person.
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You're doing a lot for the community. You made the transition,
you're smart, and you got a sense of humor. And
you with my boy Lomas Brown.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Breaking Lomas Brown.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
I appreciate that, and uh feeling is mutual. And thank
you so much for having me on to.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Talk about.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
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