May 13, 2025 • 15 mins
5.13.25
Rock & Roll HOFer Alice Cooper has stories for days.
Alice shares a drugged-up encounter with David Letterman, chugging Budweiser with Ed McMahon, the genius of Johnny Carson and his hatred of disco! Alice also chats about being nominated for the Radio Hall of Fame. Oh, and his golf handicap is RIDICULOUS! Its a fun conversation!
Rock & Roll HOFer Alice Cooper has stories for days.
Alice shares a drugged-up encounter with David Letterman, chugging Budweiser with Ed McMahon, the genius of Johnny Carson and his hatred of disco! Alice also chats about being nominated for the Radio Hall of Fame. Oh, and his golf handicap is RIDICULOUS! Its a fun conversation!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Is this Alice Cooper?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
This is Alice Cooper. Is this the famous Gunner?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Oh my goodness, we could drop the famous part because
I might I might be talking to as soon to
be Radio Hall of Famer. Congratulations on your nomination.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well, thank you. It's been about twenty three years now
that I've been doing nights with Alice Cooper, and now
Alice is addic and it's you know, for me, it's
so funny. It's just fun. It's just really fun to
do this.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, you know, I love radio because it's kind of
in a lot of ways, the last one on one medium.
You know, people are alone in their cars, maybe they're
alone in their living room listening in some way. I
want to go way back, young Vincent in Detroit. How
did radio affect your life and how did you consume
radio When you were a.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Kid, it was everything. The radio was on constantly, and
then we got to transistor radios over those Yeah, and
every kid in school had a transistor radio and you
listen to Top forty and on Top forty was like everything
from the Beatles to Frank Sinatra. You know, that was
like all we talked about was, hey, man, look at
(01:09):
the charts. You get these little piece of paper with
the top forty yeah, to see if your song moved up,
you know, the song that you really like moved up. Yeah.
Radio was everything at that point for me.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I remember looking at the charts like you did. I
remember a time where and I'm sure you did it
as well. I would get up every day and look
at baseball box scores in the paper too.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Absolutely, that was so important. I'm from Detroit, so my Tigers,
you know, I mean that was it. I was how
the Tigers do? You know? How the Lions do? How
did the Red Wings do? So? Yeah, totally. I am
dying in the wool Detroit.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
We are speaking with Alice Cooper. The Too Close for
Comfort Tour going to be at Emmons Auditorium this Thursday night,
May fifteenth, the campus of ball State University. You will
not be able to escape the name of David lettermanutes
everywhere at ball State. What is your relationship like with Dave?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
You know, I did the show a couple of times
with Dave, and it was so funny. The night that
I did the show with Dave, he had just had
oral surgery and he was still high, you know, And
I remember he was. I could tell just by looking
at him that he was drifting him off every once
in a while, you know. But it was really funny
(02:29):
and I had a really good relationship with him.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
We are speaking with Alice Cooper, you know. I mean,
you ran with such an interesting crowd in the seventies
in the eighties. Did you ever do Johnny Carson's Tonight
Show or run into him anywhere?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I did it about ten times.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, a couple of times performing, But he really liked
me on the das, you know, just sitting there and
talking because Ed McMahon and I would split a six
pack of Budweiser before the show, and that was the
kind of the funny thing that was going on and on.
I brought a book Constrictor one night, and no, I
(03:08):
did Johnny a lot. The great thing about Johnny was
he would set you up for the joke and you
would get the laugh wow, And all he would have
to do was look at the audience and he'd get
a second laugh.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It was such a great time. A lot of you know,
appointment television back in the day. What are your thoughts today?
Is it good for an artist to have so many
different platforms. Do you have to work harder as an artist?
I mean, these aren't the album seventies anymore, I know,
you know, and it was.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I feel sorry for young bands. Young bands don't have
the record companies to support them like they did back then.
You know, like when we were tik with Warner Brothers,
they said, whatever it takes, how much money you need
to keep going until your records catch up with sales
and everything, And the head of the record company would
(04:00):
be there at three in the morning talking to you
about lyrics. I mean, that's that's when radio, I mean,
and that's when record companies and artists really mattered, really
really mattered. You know, Columbia wanted Bowie for twelve albums,
they wanted Elton for this, they wanted us for twelve albums. Wow,
(04:20):
so we were now family with that record company. That
doesn't happen anymore. I don't know how young bands now survive.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, it's very hard. They got to make their money
on the road, they got to make their money with
merch but I mean, you know, you look at Spotify
and you know it's pennies, pennies on the dollar that
you're making.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, you're absolutely right. Where in our era, all the
guys from our era are already financially forever.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
So now I tour because I want you, not because
I have to. And that's the same with Elton, that's
the same with Bowie. That's the same with I mean
not Bowie, but that's been with the Rolling Stone everybody.
We toured because this is what we do. You know.
Back then, we toured because we had to pay bills.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, and some of us had to pay for cocaine.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Oh my gosh. Back then, well a lot of times
you didn't ah, it would just say it was yeah,
it was currency. At some point, you know, I stopped
all that forty two years ago, you know, I mean,
I'm doing everything forty two years ago, or I would
have joined the twenty seven Club, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, I mean you were really close. You've openly said
there's a handful of albums that you don't even remember recording.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
There were three albums that I don't remember, and that
was right before I got sober, and I listened to
those albums, and they do They're charming. There's some really
interesting things going on in those albums. In fact, the
real Alice Cooper Core loves those albums more than the
big albums.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Wow, you know, Wow, we are speaking with Alice Cooper.
Did you ever do radio junkets? Did you guys travel
and do all the radio hosting things or whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Absolutely, in fact, you had to do that. That was
part of promotion, you know. I mean I'd be on
tour the record just came out, say schools Out just
came out, or a billion dollar Babies, and I'd get
to the city, go right to the radio station, do
the promo, do the thing, and then go do the
show that night. That happened every single day. But when
(06:25):
Bernie Talking and I did from the Inside. After I
got out of the hospital, we wrote an album about
that hospital and it was from the inside. So Bernie
and I would travel and we would go to every
radio station. At one point when we did the Trash album,
we would do the radio stations, but we'd show up
in a garbage truck.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
That is so funny. I mean, now see there's a
visual for social media right there.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah. Oh, absolutely no. We knew exactly how to milk
the social media, you know, if you show up in
a garbage truck. And here was the great one. We
went to Houston, and you know, you wrench a garbage truck. Yeah,
And the guy says, well, he says, I really don't
want the name of our garbage company to be related
(07:16):
with Alice Cooper. What what? I don't believe I lived
on that promo forever because it was so funny.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, God forbid, we besmirched the image of the garbage people.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, so you don't want those people manage?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, all right, I want to just throw this to
you out of the blue. What was the reaction to
disco when it came.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
By, oh, our number one enemy?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
It was the enemy. And if you think of it,
when disco happened, only thing they would play from Kiss
or Alice Cooper or Aerosmith or ballads. They wouldn't play
any rock and roll. They would just play disco. There
is an unspoken truth that if you have Saturday Night Fever,
(08:08):
it doesn't matter if your Cannibal Corpse or any of
these heavy metal bands, that album is allowed to be
in your collection. Wow, because it was. It was the
Sergeant Pepper of disco and all those songs were great,
and it was the Beags. They were one of us,
you know, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I mean as a songwriter. You cannot deny the power
of Barry Gibb.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Oh my gosh. When they did Sergeant Pepper the movie,
it was the Beg's not the Beatles in that. And
the only reason I took a part in that I
played a father's son was that I got to work
with George Martin.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And at one point I got to beat up the Beg's.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
To which your friends laughed with delight.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah, oh yeah, they love that.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Did you ever go to Studio fifty four? What the
hell was that?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Like? Only every night?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, it was so I hated the music, but the
scene was very crazy. But that really wasn't the hard
rock scene. The really cool place with maxis Kansas City.
You would go in and you go to the back
room and it would be political, it would be like
the Kennedy's, it would be actors, it would be rock stars,
(09:26):
and you couldn't count everybody at every table with somebody
that was an.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
A lister man at Max's Kansas City in New York.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Right, yeah, in New York City? Yeah yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
If I remember correctly, gosh, and I could be off
on this. I read Jerry Lewis's tribute to Dean Martin.
Dean and Me, didn't they play Maxis Kansas City quite
a bit.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Lewis and Martin, you know what, they probably could have
very easily. Look, you know, one of the oddest things
that Jerry Lewis said was that Dean Martin can do
every single thing that I do, all the pratfalls, all
of the crazy voices, all of the dumb stuff. He says,
(10:08):
Dean can do all of that.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You know, he says. The difference is that I was
not as good looking as him, and he had a
great voice, you know, so he was the leading man
and I was the dummy.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
When they broke up. I mean, Jerry always liked to
kind of talk about his money interviews that I've seen
and stuff like that. And they had they had at
the time what was close to maybe I don't know,
a half billion dollars or more in engagements on the books.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
In the fifties, they were, I mean, they were untouchable,
you know. They was. There was Abaton, Costello, Lewis and Martin,
Hope and Crosby. You know, you had those combinations of
people that really really worked together and and still holds
up today.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, incredible. I was watching a snippet from the Smothers
Brothers the other day, and to be that sharp politically
and so socially aware in the way that they delivered it,
it was amazing. It was at the highest level of talent.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
They were very, very subtle, and you know it had
to be or they would have gotten taken off the air.
They suggested everything, you know, and you know they're writers.
They're writers at that time, were Steve Martin, Albert Brooks,
you know people like that. Wow, And I knew all
those guys when they were writers for the for This
(11:31):
Mother's Brother's Show.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Incredible. So glad to see Steve Martin and Martin Short
have success with only murders in the building. It's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
It's so good. I think I think Martin Short might
be with the funniest person on the planet.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, I mean, we lost Robin Williams, so you got
to pass it to somebody. He's the most versatile. And
if you've you know, I'm talking to the listener here.
If you've never seen Steve Martin and Martin Short in
concert together, it is a hilarious show. Alice.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Oh, yeah, you're talking about two of the greatest and
that show, like you mentioned that murders in the bill,
So I was surprised at how good Gomez wasn't that?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, Selena Gomez, she's incredible in that. All right, Well
we've got Alice Cooper. Too Close for Comfort Tour Thursday Night,
fifteenth of May, Emmons Auditorium, Munsee Ball State before I
let you go. You may have seen the viral video.
There was a young wife on social media and this
is about the Masters, and I have the audio, but
(12:31):
I don't have it at my fingertips. She goes viral.
In the video, she basically says, my husband, we've been
married for two years. He did not cry at our wedding.
My father gave a great speech, didn't cry when I
came down the aisle. And then some Irish kid wins
a golf tournament and he's crying in my living room.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well, everybody wanted to see that. Everybody wanted to see
the Grand Slam. And now I want to see Beef
win because he'll be a Grand slammer.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Oh my god. Really so Rory mcelroys, who were talking
about Jordan Speed, We're talking about golf here, folks, great golfer.
There was a time where I thought he might get
ten majors, but he kind of evened out over time.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, he was so hot for two years, but now
all he needs is this PGA Championship to have the Grand.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Slam Man amazing. So how's your golf game, Alice?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I am a four handicap, damn, and I shoot my
age every day.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Get out of here, now, what are you? Seventy seven?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Seventy seven? So I'll shoot No, I have a few
rounds wor I'll shoot even you know, wow, if I'm
putting really good that day. But when we're on the road,
we play a different course every day. Yeah, you know,
and so you never know your putting is going to
be really you don't know. Everything breaks, You don't know
if that goes left or right, you know. But it's
(13:57):
just fun to get out and play. My guitar player
plays and my bass player plays.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
So you know, well, thank god, because I don't I
need to see Alice on a golf course in not
a pickleball court like all the other people.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Now, now you'll ever see that. In fact, you know,
the crazy thing is is Alice Cooper, the character I
play on stage, hateskull everything that I like. But the
crazy thing is is this band I have. They're all
best friends and Hurricane Nita Strauss is unbelievable. Lead guitar
(14:34):
player Ryan is an amazing guitar player. We have the
best drummer in the business. And the show is startling.
It's not like anything you've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Cannot wait to see it. You're going to be at
Emmon's Auditorium, ball State this Thursday, the fifteenth of May,
Alice Cooper the two Close for Comfort tour. Hey, truly,
I hope you get into the Radio Hall of Fame.
Telling stories? Is you know what radio used to be about?
You do it so well? Good luck with that nomination.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Well, thank you, Ia. My theory is never let the
truth get in the way of a good story.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Oh dude, absolutely, we embellish everything. I've been married now
for thirty two years, and I can see it in
my wife's eyes, which she goes, that isn't how it happened. Dave, Well, I.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Have fifty years next year with ryl Oh.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
That is great. Man. Well listen, Alice, thank you for
all the music over the years, all the great conversation,
and we cannot wait to see you at Emmons Auditorium.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Cool. I'll see you then, all right, Thank
Speaker 1 (15:40):
You, Alice Cooper, everybody, Hey, safe travels, Alice, Thank you man.
Hello, Is this Alice Cooper?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
This is Alice Cooper. Is this the famous Gunner?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Oh my goodness, we could drop the famous part because
I might I might be talking to as soon to
be Radio Hall of Famer. Congratulations on your nomination.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well, thank you. It's been about twenty three years now
that I've been doing nights with Alice Cooper, and now
Alice is addic and it's you know, for me, it's
so funny. It's just fun. It's just really fun to
do this.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, you know, I love radio because it's kind of
in a lot of ways, the last one on one medium.
You know, people are alone in their cars, maybe they're
alone in their living room listening in some way. I
want to go way back, young Vincent in Detroit. How
did radio affect your life and how did you consume
radio When you were a.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Kid, it was everything. The radio was on constantly, and
then we got to transistor radios over those Yeah, and
every kid in school had a transistor radio and you
listen to Top forty and on Top forty was like everything
from the Beatles to Frank Sinatra. You know, that was
like all we talked about was, hey, man, look at
(01:09):
the charts. You get these little piece of paper with
the top forty yeah, to see if your song moved up,
you know, the song that you really like moved up. Yeah.
Radio was everything at that point for me.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I remember looking at the charts like you did. I
remember a time where and I'm sure you did it
as well. I would get up every day and look
at baseball box scores in the paper too.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Absolutely, that was so important. I'm from Detroit, so my Tigers,
you know, I mean that was it. I was how
the Tigers do? You know? How the Lions do? How
did the Red Wings do? So? Yeah, totally. I am
dying in the wool Detroit.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
We are speaking with Alice Cooper. The Too Close for
Comfort Tour going to be at Emmons Auditorium this Thursday night,
May fifteenth, the campus of ball State University. You will
not be able to escape the name of David lettermanutes
everywhere at ball State. What is your relationship like with Dave?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
You know, I did the show a couple of times
with Dave, and it was so funny. The night that
I did the show with Dave, he had just had
oral surgery and he was still high, you know, And
I remember he was. I could tell just by looking
at him that he was drifting him off every once
in a while, you know. But it was really funny
(02:29):
and I had a really good relationship with him.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
We are speaking with Alice Cooper, you know. I mean,
you ran with such an interesting crowd in the seventies
in the eighties. Did you ever do Johnny Carson's Tonight
Show or run into him anywhere?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I did it about ten times.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, a couple of times performing, But he really liked
me on the das, you know, just sitting there and
talking because Ed McMahon and I would split a six
pack of Budweiser before the show, and that was the
kind of the funny thing that was going on and on.
I brought a book Constrictor one night, and no, I
(03:08):
did Johnny a lot. The great thing about Johnny was
he would set you up for the joke and you
would get the laugh wow, And all he would have
to do was look at the audience and he'd get
a second laugh.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It was such a great time. A lot of you know,
appointment television back in the day. What are your thoughts today?
Is it good for an artist to have so many
different platforms. Do you have to work harder as an artist?
I mean, these aren't the album seventies anymore, I know,
you know, and it was.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I feel sorry for young bands. Young bands don't have
the record companies to support them like they did back then.
You know, like when we were tik with Warner Brothers,
they said, whatever it takes, how much money you need
to keep going until your records catch up with sales
and everything, And the head of the record company would
(04:00):
be there at three in the morning talking to you
about lyrics. I mean, that's that's when radio, I mean,
and that's when record companies and artists really mattered, really
really mattered. You know, Columbia wanted Bowie for twelve albums,
they wanted Elton for this, they wanted us for twelve albums. Wow,
(04:20):
so we were now family with that record company. That
doesn't happen anymore. I don't know how young bands now survive.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, it's very hard. They got to make their money
on the road, they got to make their money with
merch but I mean, you know, you look at Spotify
and you know it's pennies, pennies on the dollar that
you're making.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, you're absolutely right. Where in our era, all the
guys from our era are already financially forever.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
So now I tour because I want you, not because
I have to. And that's the same with Elton, that's
the same with Bowie. That's the same with I mean
not Bowie, but that's been with the Rolling Stone everybody.
We toured because this is what we do. You know.
Back then, we toured because we had to pay bills.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, and some of us had to pay for cocaine.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Oh my gosh. Back then, well a lot of times
you didn't ah, it would just say it was yeah,
it was currency. At some point, you know, I stopped
all that forty two years ago, you know, I mean,
I'm doing everything forty two years ago, or I would
have joined the twenty seven Club, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, I mean you were really close. You've openly said
there's a handful of albums that you don't even remember recording.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
There were three albums that I don't remember, and that
was right before I got sober, and I listened to
those albums, and they do They're charming. There's some really
interesting things going on in those albums. In fact, the
real Alice Cooper Core loves those albums more than the
big albums.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Wow, you know, Wow, we are speaking with Alice Cooper.
Did you ever do radio junkets? Did you guys travel
and do all the radio hosting things or whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Absolutely, in fact, you had to do that. That was
part of promotion, you know. I mean I'd be on
tour the record just came out, say schools Out just
came out, or a billion dollar Babies, and I'd get
to the city, go right to the radio station, do
the promo, do the thing, and then go do the
show that night. That happened every single day. But when
(06:25):
Bernie Talking and I did from the Inside. After I
got out of the hospital, we wrote an album about
that hospital and it was from the inside. So Bernie
and I would travel and we would go to every
radio station. At one point when we did the Trash album,
we would do the radio stations, but we'd show up
in a garbage truck.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
That is so funny. I mean, now see there's a
visual for social media right there.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah. Oh, absolutely no. We knew exactly how to milk
the social media, you know, if you show up in
a garbage truck. And here was the great one. We
went to Houston, and you know, you wrench a garbage truck. Yeah,
And the guy says, well, he says, I really don't
want the name of our garbage company to be related
(07:16):
with Alice Cooper. What what? I don't believe I lived
on that promo forever because it was so funny.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, God forbid, we besmirched the image of the garbage people.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, so you don't want those people manage?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, all right, I want to just throw this to
you out of the blue. What was the reaction to
disco when it came.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
By, oh, our number one enemy?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
It was the enemy. And if you think of it,
when disco happened, only thing they would play from Kiss
or Alice Cooper or Aerosmith or ballads. They wouldn't play
any rock and roll. They would just play disco. There
is an unspoken truth that if you have Saturday Night Fever,
(08:08):
it doesn't matter if your Cannibal Corpse or any of
these heavy metal bands, that album is allowed to be
in your collection. Wow, because it was. It was the
Sergeant Pepper of disco and all those songs were great,
and it was the Beags. They were one of us,
you know, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I mean as a songwriter. You cannot deny the power
of Barry Gibb.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Oh my gosh. When they did Sergeant Pepper the movie,
it was the Beg's not the Beatles in that. And
the only reason I took a part in that I
played a father's son was that I got to work
with George Martin.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And at one point I got to beat up the Beg's.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
To which your friends laughed with delight.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah, oh yeah, they love that.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Did you ever go to Studio fifty four? What the
hell was that?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Like? Only every night?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, it was so I hated the music, but the
scene was very crazy. But that really wasn't the hard
rock scene. The really cool place with maxis Kansas City.
You would go in and you go to the back
room and it would be political, it would be like
the Kennedy's, it would be actors, it would be rock stars,
(09:26):
and you couldn't count everybody at every table with somebody
that was an.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
A lister man at Max's Kansas City in New York.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Right, yeah, in New York City? Yeah yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
If I remember correctly, gosh, and I could be off
on this. I read Jerry Lewis's tribute to Dean Martin.
Dean and Me, didn't they play Maxis Kansas City quite
a bit.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Lewis and Martin, you know what, they probably could have
very easily. Look, you know, one of the oddest things
that Jerry Lewis said was that Dean Martin can do
every single thing that I do, all the pratfalls, all
of the crazy voices, all of the dumb stuff. He says,
(10:08):
Dean can do all of that.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You know, he says. The difference is that I was
not as good looking as him, and he had a
great voice, you know, so he was the leading man
and I was the dummy.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
When they broke up. I mean, Jerry always liked to
kind of talk about his money interviews that I've seen
and stuff like that. And they had they had at
the time what was close to maybe I don't know,
a half billion dollars or more in engagements on the books.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
In the fifties, they were, I mean, they were untouchable,
you know. They was. There was Abaton, Costello, Lewis and Martin,
Hope and Crosby. You know, you had those combinations of
people that really really worked together and and still holds
up today.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, incredible. I was watching a snippet from the Smothers
Brothers the other day, and to be that sharp politically
and so socially aware in the way that they delivered it,
it was amazing. It was at the highest level of talent.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
They were very, very subtle, and you know it had
to be or they would have gotten taken off the air.
They suggested everything, you know, and you know they're writers.
They're writers at that time, were Steve Martin, Albert Brooks,
you know people like that. Wow, And I knew all
those guys when they were writers for the for This
(11:31):
Mother's Brother's Show.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Incredible. So glad to see Steve Martin and Martin Short
have success with only murders in the building. It's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
It's so good. I think I think Martin Short might
be with the funniest person on the planet.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, I mean, we lost Robin Williams, so you got
to pass it to somebody. He's the most versatile. And
if you've you know, I'm talking to the listener here.
If you've never seen Steve Martin and Martin Short in
concert together, it is a hilarious show. Alice.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Oh, yeah, you're talking about two of the greatest and
that show, like you mentioned that murders in the bill,
So I was surprised at how good Gomez wasn't that?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, Selena Gomez, she's incredible in that. All right, Well
we've got Alice Cooper. Too Close for Comfort Tour Thursday Night,
fifteenth of May, Emmons Auditorium, Munsee Ball State before I
let you go. You may have seen the viral video.
There was a young wife on social media and this
is about the Masters, and I have the audio, but
(12:31):
I don't have it at my fingertips. She goes viral.
In the video, she basically says, my husband, we've been
married for two years. He did not cry at our wedding.
My father gave a great speech, didn't cry when I
came down the aisle. And then some Irish kid wins
a golf tournament and he's crying in my living room.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well, everybody wanted to see that. Everybody wanted to see
the Grand Slam. And now I want to see Beef
win because he'll be a Grand slammer.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Oh my god. Really so Rory mcelroys, who were talking
about Jordan Speed, We're talking about golf here, folks, great golfer.
There was a time where I thought he might get
ten majors, but he kind of evened out over time.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, he was so hot for two years, but now
all he needs is this PGA Championship to have the Grand.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Slam Man amazing. So how's your golf game, Alice?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I am a four handicap, damn, and I shoot my
age every day.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Get out of here, now, what are you? Seventy seven?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Seventy seven? So I'll shoot No, I have a few
rounds wor I'll shoot even you know, wow, if I'm
putting really good that day. But when we're on the road,
we play a different course every day. Yeah, you know,
and so you never know your putting is going to
be really you don't know. Everything breaks, You don't know
if that goes left or right, you know. But it's
(13:57):
just fun to get out and play. My guitar player
plays and my bass player plays.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
So you know, well, thank god, because I don't I
need to see Alice on a golf course in not
a pickleball court like all the other people.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Now, now you'll ever see that. In fact, you know,
the crazy thing is is Alice Cooper, the character I
play on stage, hateskull everything that I like. But the
crazy thing is is this band I have. They're all
best friends and Hurricane Nita Strauss is unbelievable. Lead guitar
(14:34):
player Ryan is an amazing guitar player. We have the
best drummer in the business. And the show is startling.
It's not like anything you've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Cannot wait to see it. You're going to be at
Emmon's Auditorium, ball State this Thursday, the fifteenth of May,
Alice Cooper the two Close for Comfort tour. Hey, truly,
I hope you get into the Radio Hall of Fame.
Telling stories? Is you know what radio used to be about?
You do it so well? Good luck with that nomination.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Well, thank you, Ia. My theory is never let the
truth get in the way of a good story.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Oh dude, absolutely, we embellish everything. I've been married now
for thirty two years, and I can see it in
my wife's eyes, which she goes, that isn't how it happened. Dave, Well, I.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Have fifty years next year with ryl Oh.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
That is great. Man. Well listen, Alice, thank you for
all the music over the years, all the great conversation,
and we cannot wait to see you at Emmons Auditorium.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Cool. I'll see you then, all right, Thank
Speaker 1 (15:40):
You, Alice Cooper, everybody, Hey, safe travels, Alice, Thank you man.
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