May 8, 2025 • 32 mins
Jessie sat down with Patrick and Dan from The Black Keys to talk about everything with their new album, the Record Hangs, working with new songwriters, what's inspired them over the years, and of course, their cameos on "The Righteous Gemstones." Jessie also quizzes Patrick and Dan to see how well they know their own songs!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The color wasn't and the answer was black. Yeah. That's
so terrible, I think so.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Dan.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Yeah, Dan, sit there, good to see you. How are you, sir?
I love all right? Yes, uh Dan, you're right there.
Will you give me some check checks.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Chack andy check check check check? Hello? Yep, check one too, one.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Too yo yo yo yo yo? Okay, Pat give hat?
You're so clear?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
How you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
All right? You guys look great? All right? Free?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Cool? Cool? Cool? Cool?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
What is up? What the heck? I did you and
I did you separately and now I have you together? Yep,
this is so great.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
We formed the Blackies Voltron specifically for this. This is
the only radio this is the only album press we're doing.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Really, I really appreciate that. Did you see the shirt Jumpstones?
Do you remember this from season three?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
How the hell was that? That was incredible. I'm watching it.
I recognize you, but I'm like, wait a second, no,
I could be wrong. Whatever, didn't google it get to
your episode? It's you talking to teen jis what the hell?
Whose idea was that?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Not my idea? I don't know who wrote it, but.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
It was crazy were there were a lot of people
in the scene and it was all I had to
play out and then like there were like fifty people
when they yelled, action had to move, and then I
had to hit the line right. And the first time
I did it totally biffed it, and but I got
it the next couple of times.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Dan, it was so buddies in your face, You're like soldiers.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Stop.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
That helmet was so heavy. It was like fifty pounds
on my head all day. It was a thousand degrees
in Charles.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
You were both soldiers. How was Bradley Cooper?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, my scene was with Bradley Cooper, which I didn't
know until I got there. And then you know, they
kept just taking lines away from me, and I just
kept screwing.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
The same up. They were like, why don't you just
just say okay, that would be good.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
You made a hell of a Civil War soldier.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
They spent like three hours getting like that sideburns on.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
That's why at first I didn't realize it was you.
I'm like, wait a second.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Well, I look like hell that yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Well, hey man, it was a Civil War, you know. Yeah,
all right, record hangs and I know you guys did
the after party for Righteous Jumpsons. Was that during like
the Kelvin and Keith wedding scene was like towards because
that was already set up for a party.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
No, it was like we did it. I think Dan
shot his scene and then the next day they wrapped
it and then that night we we did. We DJed
the party they had in Charleston at this venue on
the beach called the wind Jammer.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
It was cool, like all the extras, all the all
the crew were there. It's hundreds of people.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Walter Goggins as teen just ridiculous. Okay, so you're doing
these record hanks. Rave Reviews Gandhi gave it five stars.
A masterclass in controlled chaos. Jordan Belford, the Wolf of
Wall Streets, has a spiritual journey disguised as a house party.
I saw God in a disco ball. Talk to me
(03:44):
about these record hanks, because you guys have been doing
them for like a couple of years now.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I mean, I think the idea was was just Dan
looking for something to do after we had done a concert,
you know, because uh, you know, the options are slim.
It's like go sit on the bus, hang out in
the venue, or like you know, try to like find
a bar or something. So Dan started bringing his forty
five's on the road like in twenty twenty two and
(04:13):
occasionally would spin some records after the show, and then
it just kind of from there.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Dan asked me if I.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Bring some, and then we then we we're you know,
like we went to like England to do some recording
with our friend Leon Michaels, and so then you know,
you just realized, like the formula was like the two
of us spinning with a friend.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Did you have to teach yourself like DJ equipment?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yo?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Was that a pain in the ass? Well, it's not
like you're you're a wizard with you know.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I mean, no, we kind of knew, but we you know,
we weren't. We're not trying to like, you know, beat match, yeah,
I mean we're just not capable of.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Figure. I'm figuring that out yet.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
But the idea is just to kind of play music
that gets people dancing, which is you know, like and
not dance musics, you know, not d M, which is
it's kind of weird that it's so hard to that
that as a as a pastime is not like, you know,
more common, and it should be, so, you know, the
(05:20):
hard part, the hardest part about the record handing thing
is when we do them to keep it from being
populated by fans that just stand there and that we
call them fomers, just like the foam in the mouth,
don't dance and and that's like that's that's that is.
It's harder than you think because it's like it's all
about like do we have to charge ticket to charge list?
(05:40):
Can we do we make a guest list? Do we
make people sign up for it? And it's like it's
kind of like if it seems like if you throw it,
if you just announced it last minute, and then you
kind of have a better shot of like keeping the
fans from standing right in front of the stage staring
ah boemers.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yo. But like everything, I feel like these record hangs
inspired at least the songs that I've heard. This is
like a really like free spirited Black Keys thing that's happening. Dance.
I'm like moving my body to the music. Did the
record hangs kind of inspire? Like, Yo, you know what
I'm in this frame of mind, let's just go with it.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Yeah, And you know it also sparked this like healthy
competition where we're trying to like find the hot record. Yeah,
every record hang, we would try to you know, bust
out something new, something no one's heard before, and you know,
being able to like play these songs too in front
of a crowd and see how they react. It's like
the ultimate test. You know, you instantly know if it's
(06:44):
working or not. And it was really kind of eye
opening some of these records that we thought maybe would
be hot and they kind of they kind of fell flat. Yeah,
or ones that work so good, and and then you know,
we do it. We've been doing it so much together
that we start dice secting these songs and then we
get in the studio and we started thinking about it
in terms of that, and it's like it's definitely affected
(07:06):
the music we've been making.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
That's so cool. That really really that that's how you
kind of drew inspiration every everything that I've heard obviously,
and then what I've watched on like the videos. By
the way, who's your videographer for these like hangs.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
We've had a couple of people then they're they're all great, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
They're killing it. So yeah, free, free spirited. I feel
like the black it's very inviting Black keys, like you're
not playing at us, you're playing like for us, everybody's dancing,
everybody's moving the other the night before baby girl, who
yo piano?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
What?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Who's doing that?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Well, you know the very first song, Well, I guess
I should go back for this album. Like in the
last album, we were you know, we were really like
it was all about collaborating and and we started with
you know, other I guess essentially songwriter singers, rock star guys.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
It was like Noel Gallagher, Beckham.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
We just did a ton of work with specifically with
those two guys, writing songs with them, and then.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
For this, for this, for this.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Album, uh, you know, we were like, well, maybe we
should instead of work with other like singers, work with
other songwriters.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
And so the first person that was suggested to work
with was.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
This guy, Rick Knowles, who who's written a ton of
big songs but specifically worked with Lana del Rey on
a bunch of her stuff, including an album that Dan produced,
Ultra Violence, And so we should reach out to Rick,
and so we did, and it just so happened that
he was coming to Nashville like the following week for
the first time.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
First time, which was a lifelong songwriter. It was the
first time he'd ever booked a trip to Nashville.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Weird, weird time.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
It was just meant to be.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Yeah, And we got together with him in the studio
and instantly hit it off and and within the first
hour we had a song.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
And he writes specifically mostly on piano. So that was
the first time we had been.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
We'd never done that forever. Remember twenty years of playing music.
We we've never really written a song with piano.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
What was it that? Were you like maybe old minds
that would be like, oh what, but were you in
a more fresh like you're like, dude, Okay, fine, let's
roll with that. This sounds dope.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
No, I mean I think, uh, you know, we invite
people that we really admire, Yeah, and we kind of
you know, when they.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Come into the studio with us, we were putting them
through our filter basically.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
So it's just as fun. It's fun as hell for
us to do that.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
And so you know what with Rick, you know, pulling
cords out because actually that like the first song we
wrote was the title track. One of the first songs
we wrote with the title track, I write no flowers
In that song, it started with a melody and it
was like getting to see like how Rick's process of
you know, like you get that, you kind of get
you're going through like school, music school essentially, because Rick
(09:58):
Steel was like he he he was interested in song titles.
So he asked us to to write, you know, come
up with some ideas for potential song titles. And one
of them was no writing, no followers that Dan had,
and so he he just was like asking Dan to like,
how you how would you sing that?
Speaker 5 (10:14):
So just were you without any music, nothing, no piano,
how would you just sing.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
That in space?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Did you just stare at him? Or did you eventually
do no?
Speaker 5 (10:22):
I just kind of went I sang no ray, no flowers,
and he just said, okay, stop and then he just
starts finding the notes, figuring out what key I naturally
went to, and then he starts building the song just
right and right in front of us, you know, and
we were just flowing and that's how it went.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And so but to hear someone that you know, to write,
you know, when when he's like a great piano players
able to voice chords in a way that would be
nearly impossible in a standard tuning our guitar especially, and yeah,
then you know, like when we decided, you know, when
we get you know, went back in the studio. A
(11:01):
couple of weeks later, we had talked about asking Scott
Storch into the studio because we've both been like, you know,
watching him on YouTube and just like you since.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
We were in high school. Yeah, he's watching videos.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
At him, you know, written some of the most iconic
parts and also just such a character that it was like,
you know, just like a long shot, like, but.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
He was down. He flew up to Nashville and.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Baby Girl was one of the songs we wrote with
with Scott, and.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
He got He came into the studio and you know,
he's used to doing hip hop sessions where he plugs
keyboard in the control room and just flips through presets
and stuff. And we had all the acoustic pianos and
all of the organs and synthesizers and shit.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
He was going crazy.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Yeah, I don't think he really ever recorded with like
live instruments sort of like that. So when we're cutting piano,
like you can hear him grunting into the microphone, the
kind of thing you don't hear when he's plugged in
in the control room.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, if you hear the very end of the Baby Girl.
That's the thing that sounds just like percussion is.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Just his.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
That's so black. He's though, so raw, so gritty.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
All right.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
So you've also too with what I've heard. You still guys,
you're still maintaining the Black Keys like famous sound it
comes through. It's crazy. Do you ever go back to
the old albums or really old songs just to kind
of draw a little bit of inspiration? Did you do
it for No Raindow Flowers a little bit? Or do
you not not?
Speaker 5 (12:27):
I mean, I think like we go back to the
well often it is a source of inspiration and like
re energizing us. Yeah, when we did Delta Cream, that
was us going back to the well, and I think
that we've kind of been on a tear ever since.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
All right, So you worked on it for about three months.
Where where were your heads at? Like what was your
frame of mind going into this album? Just like from
the beginning where you're like here we go again, or
like damn, okay, let's conquer this. What hour was your
head at?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I mean, I mean, you know, essentially, you know from
the time we released Delta Cream, which is you know,
like a Blues essentially tribute album to some guys that
really inspired us.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
So from the moment that came out, which was.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
You know, like May April May of twenty twenty one,
we immediately went in the studio and we recorded what
became Dropout Boogie, and then we just kept recording, you know,
And so then we toured and and that next thing
became Ohio Players, And when that was done and we
(13:43):
were touring, you know, we kept recording, and then that
that tour got canceled, and then we just kept We've
just been recording.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
So I think, like like Dan said, we've been on
a tear. You know.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I think that each wreck, each album we've made, is
like you know, they feel it feels like you know,
actual uh documents that they cover like a specific period
of this era we're in. But I think for this,
you know, it was like, you know, the thing for
(14:17):
this album was just like we just started writing and
got a bunch of songs ideas down. Then it was
like at some point you flipped the thing like Okay,
we have a ton of songs that now we.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Have to finish them.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
How many songs we finished I think eighteen songs, Damn
for this album, and we finished nineteen for the last.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
You're gonna keep all of them? Or are you whittling
it down for no raindow Flowers?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I mean for our album.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I think we're putting on eleven and we'll probably put
out a few more, but I mean we've Yeah, this
is I think like since twenty twenty one. By the
end of next year, we will put out like sixty
songs or something.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
It's crazy, you know, I think about it too. By
the way, this is freaking album number thirteen, which is
absolutely insane. Next year's twenty fifth anniversary. You've released four
albums in five years. I mean, you guys are like
your work horses. You have more albums than Food Fighters,
Pearl Jam, the Frogs.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
The Frogs, Yeah, my daughter, the.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Your band, dude, Yeah, freaking Frogs.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I like everything from Milwaukee.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
You guys have a lot of albums, crazy work ethic.
When I think of the Black Keys, it's resilience. You're
just your work horses. Was there anybody like growing up?
I don't know. Maybe it was a family member that
taught you the work ethic. Because a lot of bands
they get successful and they're just like cool all right,
and then that's that.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I don't know, We've always we've always had a strong
work ethic.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah yeah, I mean my mom right amount of autism.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, they're right around autism.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
We're all on the spectrum.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, you know. I mean my mom taught me, you know,
I had to get.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
A job when I was like fourteen, okay, and then
then at that point she was like, you can you
have to save half your money, then you can spend
another half. So eventually she basically taught me like, you
can't enjoy anything until you've worked your ass off and
so old world.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
You're lucky though, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's so important.
You're constantly working. What do you do when you're not working?
What do you draw inspiration from? Crypto?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Well, I mean when we when we're not working, I
think that Dan are talking.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
About working I see, okay.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Or planning something, or he's working on you're scheming on
another job.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yeah, something you never stop.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I mean I feel like if you're if you're twenty
plus years into your band and you're still feeling like
you got you know, like it's it's coming, you know,
you're you're you know, there's still something left approve or
their music is still you know, pulling you. You've got
to take advantage of that, you know, because yeah, like
you said, like, there aren't many bands that have lasted
(16:58):
twenty some years and then band have made albums and
then also made I think I think the hard thing
is I'm making an album that stands up once you
get into that like twenty plus year, you know, I
think that that gets rare.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
You know, your albums have aged so well, it's nuts,
it's crazy. So all right, we got album number thirteen
and then you guys have you said maybe eleven tracks?
What else? I mean do you do? You know, walk
me through? And I know that you've built your own equipment,
(17:35):
like you're like a wizard with that kind of stuff.
Is there anything like what's the most unconventional piece of
equipment or technique that you used during the recording of
this album?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Mmmm?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
We we've actually been using Dan's. Dan acquired a universal
audio mixing desk from the early sixties, late fifties. It's
like the tube desk called as six' ten and there're very,
sauty very solid after and it's the kind of thing
where we've always been trying to sort of make something
(18:08):
sound what we thought sounded like, that and then to
actually be able to work on, it it's a whole different.
Ballgame but, yeah back in the day we.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Were, like how can we make it sound shitty?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Again that's kind, yeah because back in the day we plug.
It we plugged something into like the four, track and
then be, like sounds like. Shit, oh we turn it
up all the, way it sounds. Better and then then
when we got like a digital, recorder, like plug it,
in it sounds like.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Shit then turn it up all the way it sounds even.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Worse so then we're, like if we plug it into
like a guitar distortion pedal, first that sounds more like
A wu tang kick From. Yeah but with the, YEAH
i think that we're both very interested In dan's a
huge collective gear and you know it's always, ACTUALLY i
think gears pretty inspirational if you're on the right.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Stuff for.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Sure any moment in, studio any moment that you could
think of that you both looked at each other you're, Like,
okay this is absolute magic where you just knew it
was like, perfect that's how you wanted it to.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Sound, no but in the movie of our. Career that
scene will take.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Face i'm gonna ask you a question about the movie
of your career. SHORTLY i DO i do have questions about? That,
Okay either Or crypto Or.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
CRISCO I I i don't own or use Either.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
No, Crisco, hell no M crisco Or. Cisco like the thong, Song,
Cisco cisco Or GENUINE i want.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
It i'm taking the. SONGS i think that is not?
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Genuine, yeah for? Sure would you drop some genuine tonight
for the? Record? Hang or is that like not on the?
Setlist think about?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
It?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Please what if we play like m, HMMM i don't.
Know i've still Taking cisco on.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
That, well, Okay i'll Take cisco, too A. Ravi i'm,
like it's eleven o'clock at. Night you how do you
do that so? Late i'm in bed by nine oh?
Five all? Right this is my other. Question you have
thirteen freaking albums to work. With are there any songs
that you feel like you never got to performing off
and you're just, like what the? Hell we never really
did this? One any like favorite song to perform of
(20:25):
all time or any song that you guys haven't gotten
to play a lot that you're looking forward to maybe
putting in the set for this.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Tour, YEAH i mean there's a lot of songs that
we've actually never performed other than the performance it's on
the on the, Record so, yeah we you, know it's
a constant battle for us to like we've been talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
How we're going to crack into the.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Catalog to start busting stuff, out and then are writing
guys Like, okay well just give me an idea of
what you're going to play and then what. Order AND
i was, like that's not, ideas like we're going to
like maybe like just pull some stuff out randomly and, think, okay,
great but this is give me like more of A zach.
SETTLIST i was, like, no, Bro like every time it was, like,
yeah but they get has gotten to a few part
(21:12):
parts of like a tour, Words it's like this is
how the show.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Goes The Kobookie, Drop i'm, like Dud.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Dylan i've never seen a review where someone's like The
Kobookie drop.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Made the.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Show everything was, okay but then the spotlight was so
perfectly shine that The.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Kobookie drop that would be a really good album titled
it would Be.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
No we've got a bunch of songs that we're Gonna
we're gonna pick, through some like a fan, favorite some.
Oldies we're gonna start, to like pull a couple of
songs in here and there during the, sets switch it
up to.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
If we wanted to be really, popular we would bring
fans on stage and let them. Perform that seems to
be the, Thing and every TIME i see, It i'm,
like this just sucks so.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Much you, know, look it could make or break a.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Shell i've NEVER i.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Mean like, Honestly i've seen so man people doing. IT
i would be not.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Thrilled what if they like stepped On you're like it.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
NO i mean like.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
You're there to see like the song won by the
guy saying, that not by like some like thirteen year
old that can barely play the.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Guitar it's so, annoying isn't. It CAN i just SAY
i get annoyed by.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
That it's.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
ANNOYING i MEAN i remember MY i was like, ten
my dad and our drive around were listened to The
Cleveland indians game and the short stop at the time
was like, sucking AND i was, Like i'm probably as
good AS J, bell and my dad stopped the cars
like J bell is a professional baseball.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Player there he. Did he's, like there's no way.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Years good As jaybell your ten year old kid, Driving
AND i kind of feel like it's like the same
thing with, like you, know bringing the eleven year old
up On it's, like, Okay.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
God bless your dad for shooting it. Straight he literally
pulled over to tell you, that.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Oh, yeah maybe we should we should get some kids
on stage and just roast like, yeah, like, okay you
have to, practice you have to.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Practice that would be so, funny just like have them
play then, stop be, like, okay, bro.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
We thought you could.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Team we thought you could do.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
It you're really not good at. It it would be
so black.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Keys because it's also like maybe they've just are so
well rehearsed that they it's so boring, Too like you
can make fun of him for. That but you, know
there's that mister show sketch that imminent death syndrome where
basically this, guy you, know it's a fake disease where
you know the person could die at any, moment and
so like everyone's going out of the way to be
(23:45):
nice to, them and then and then they keep he
keeps finding out that he doesn't actually have, it and everyone's,
like you suck, actually and then like the, Callback, no
he actually does have. IT i feel like every TIME
i see like that fan up on stage doing, that
it feels like there's emminent death.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Syndrome all, right listen next, year twenty, forth the. Anniversary
you guys have been freaking through it looking. Back is
there any, moment like after all these years where you
learn something, pivotabal pivotal about your, partnership like something about
working together that sticks out to you that was just
(24:23):
a major part of why you've stuck around so?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
LONG i, mean how to answer?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
That come? On think was it a time where you
did the kabuki drop like seven tours?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
AGO i MEAN i think you, know, uh just having
the same goals in, mine you know that, alone that's
probably most. Important, YEAH i recognizing the same levels of
bullshit and agreeing to never do that shit, again and
then doing it, again and then saying we're never gonna
(24:56):
do it, again and then keep doing.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
It it's a bad, relationship is what we like to.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Be these are external.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Forces we're just along for the, ride but at least
we recognize it.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Together pivotal, moment we're like we never whenever time we
go to this, place we never make any. Money we
shouldn't go there.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Anymore, yeah we're, Done like, okay you guys are gonna
be going there, Again, okay. Okay and it's always like you,
know this is this is really going to be the
time that you break through, there and we're, like it's
been twenty, years like this is.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
It, okay this is.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
It like we've been a band like twice as long
as The beatles and we're still trying to break Open.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Sweden, wait all, right.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
We're gonna play one more game before you. Go it's
Called guests of The. Song So i'm gonna read you.
Lyrics i'm gonna see if you guys know what freaking
Black eus song it, is because you have a LOT i.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Don't know the lyrics to any, song Including Louie.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Louis all, Right, Dan you're gonna try, here all, right just,
try oh just.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Try feel we're not feeling. Good we caught something on the.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Airplane, yeah, Listen JUST i know it's probably. Tough you
have a lot of, songs BUT i.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Won't read how contagious is bird? Flu because we think
we've both been Exposed. Sars, yeah we've Got sars.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Three all, right, Ready i'm gonna read it to. You
i'm not like a, song so you got to figure it. Out,
okay you know, ME i had, plans but they just
disappeared to the back of my. Mind that's easy.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
One, yeah we play that one every, night every single.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Night what is?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
IT i don't know there's to Any blacky song to tell.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
You that one starts with the kus are.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yea, HONESTLY i don't know a single line from A
Wu Tang clan. Song it's LIKE i literally have like
a it's a mental WELL.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
I feel ever easy it. Is he's got to have
them written down in front of him on the floor
when they. Perform there's a lot of. Music it's a
lot of.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
SONGS i barely know the. WORDS i see my kids twinkle.
TWINKLE i forget the.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Work i'm not even. JOKING i have some sort.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Of thing one point for.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Damn then.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
All, right, READY i thought you, changed BUT i should have.
Known you play nice for a time and then do me.
WRONG i don't, remember probably give the.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
WAY i read, It, yeah you're definitely trying to throw us.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
OFF i thought you, changed BUT i should have known
you'd play nice for a time then do me.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Wrong this sounds like a song we've never.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Performed Psychotic GIRL whoa put it on the.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Tour the time we ever played that was when we recorded.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
It, dude what that's.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Like that's one of those ones that we.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Get, yeah, okay well then since you're talking about that,
one see the moonlight shining on your window. Pane see
you leave you as a faithful as.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
It came the.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Lengths all, right you already got that. One, okay, ready
here's another. One but if the night gets dark all is,
Still i'll pray for, you, KNOW i will throwing it.
Back this is an old.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
One, yeah we never played that.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
One mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Hard.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Row, yeah, yeah we used to play, it played it
for like and also think dance.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Dad MIGHT i was going to say to your. Dad
your dad's on that, right, okay.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah he wrote and that we played it for the
year of two thousand.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
And, three you. Did, yeah that's when it came. Out all,
Right you have a thing no one could ever be sure,
of never even had a pure, love and never no
cure for. Him that's, nice all, right let's, see all.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Right one, more just all that's gonna, happen is you
could get a viral moment where we just the band fair.
THING i guess, WHAT i just want to, say we
WE i think The Black. Keys it could be, off
BUT i think We've we've released like one hundred and
eighty five. Songs and then this guy also has like
two solo album two solo, albums two arcs, albums plus
(29:22):
he's co written like twenty other albums with other. People
like it's like five hundred songs for this.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Guy.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Nuts, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Like the real thing is to Get Robert pollard in
here and throw this set, up because that guy's got
like a thousand. Songs AND i bet you he could do.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
IT i, REMEMBER i think he remember all of. Them spectrum. Stuff,
man all, right, fine one, more one, more one. More
sometimes the lights all shining on. Me other TIMES i
can barely. See lately it occurs to, me what a
long stream trip it's.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Been keep on. Trucking Grateful, Dead.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Oh the hell of a song you guys? Wrote how
to throw that in? There BECAUSE i think that was
one of your favorite. Concerts, YEAH i was a.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Kid, YES i went to See The Grateful dad With Jerry.
Garcia my dad took. ME i think it was like fifteen, yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Gd, baby amazing all, Right, yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
That Rich coliseum where The caves used to play nice
when they Had Brad dougherty And Mark.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Price good, memory BECAUSE i think it was nineteen ninety.
Four it would have been right a year Before. Homeboy, yeah,
yeah that's.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah and, dude when he, died he was only fifty.
Two look at pictures, THEM i.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Know oh, yeah he's only like six years older than you,
are crazy seven than.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Me, yeah, dude he looks like your Uncle ned does?
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Now yeah at?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Eight, yeah eight years? Old all?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Right, brothers which was a great. Album, well one last,
question come, on give me something. Good when's the album coming?
Out just tell me we're announcing it soon here right. Now,
no but hey, Man i'll take. It i'll take WHAT
i can.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Get.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Gent thank you for doing.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
This, yeah thanks for having, Us thanks for putting us
on the spot like.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
That.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, no it's, cool really.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Cool i'm GONNA i want to play this game with,
you BUT i want to like get just read you
text from like fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Ago did you? What who'd you text this? To you're
a piece of.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah say, it say it all?
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Right.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Brothers thank, you.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Thank you so, much thanks for having us all.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Right good, ship good, ship
The color wasn't and the answer was black. Yeah. That's
so terrible, I think so.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Dan.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Yeah, Dan, sit there, good to see you. How are you, sir?
I love all right? Yes, uh Dan, you're right there.
Will you give me some check checks.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Chack andy check check check check? Hello? Yep, check one too, one.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Too yo yo yo yo yo? Okay, Pat give hat?
You're so clear?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
How you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
All right? You guys look great? All right? Free?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Cool? Cool? Cool? Cool?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
What is up? What the heck? I did you and
I did you separately and now I have you together? Yep,
this is so great.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
We formed the Blackies Voltron specifically for this. This is
the only radio this is the only album press we're doing.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Really, I really appreciate that. Did you see the shirt Jumpstones?
Do you remember this from season three?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
How the hell was that? That was incredible. I'm watching it.
I recognize you, but I'm like, wait a second, no,
I could be wrong. Whatever, didn't google it get to
your episode? It's you talking to teen jis what the hell?
Whose idea was that?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Not my idea? I don't know who wrote it, but.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
It was crazy were there were a lot of people
in the scene and it was all I had to
play out and then like there were like fifty people
when they yelled, action had to move, and then I
had to hit the line right. And the first time
I did it totally biffed it, and but I got
it the next couple of times.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Dan, it was so buddies in your face, You're like soldiers.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Stop.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
That helmet was so heavy. It was like fifty pounds
on my head all day. It was a thousand degrees
in Charles.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
You were both soldiers. How was Bradley Cooper?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, my scene was with Bradley Cooper, which I didn't
know until I got there. And then you know, they
kept just taking lines away from me, and I just
kept screwing.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
The same up. They were like, why don't you just
just say okay, that would be good.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
You made a hell of a Civil War soldier.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
They spent like three hours getting like that sideburns on.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
That's why at first I didn't realize it was you.
I'm like, wait a second.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Well, I look like hell that yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Well, hey man, it was a Civil War, you know. Yeah,
all right, record hangs and I know you guys did
the after party for Righteous Jumpsons. Was that during like
the Kelvin and Keith wedding scene was like towards because
that was already set up for a party.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
No, it was like we did it. I think Dan
shot his scene and then the next day they wrapped
it and then that night we we did. We DJed
the party they had in Charleston at this venue on
the beach called the wind Jammer.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
It was cool, like all the extras, all the all
the crew were there. It's hundreds of people.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Walter Goggins as teen just ridiculous. Okay, so you're doing
these record hanks. Rave Reviews Gandhi gave it five stars.
A masterclass in controlled chaos. Jordan Belford, the Wolf of
Wall Streets, has a spiritual journey disguised as a house party.
I saw God in a disco ball. Talk to me
(03:44):
about these record hanks, because you guys have been doing
them for like a couple of years now.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I mean, I think the idea was was just Dan
looking for something to do after we had done a concert,
you know, because uh, you know, the options are slim.
It's like go sit on the bus, hang out in
the venue, or like you know, try to like find
a bar or something. So Dan started bringing his forty
five's on the road like in twenty twenty two and
(04:13):
occasionally would spin some records after the show, and then
it just kind of from there.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Dan asked me if I.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Bring some, and then we then we we're you know,
like we went to like England to do some recording
with our friend Leon Michaels, and so then you know,
you just realized, like the formula was like the two
of us spinning with a friend.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Did you have to teach yourself like DJ equipment?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yo?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Was that a pain in the ass? Well, it's not
like you're you're a wizard with you know.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I mean, no, we kind of knew, but we you know,
we weren't. We're not trying to like, you know, beat match, yeah,
I mean we're just not capable of.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Figure. I'm figuring that out yet.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
But the idea is just to kind of play music
that gets people dancing, which is you know, like and
not dance musics, you know, not d M, which is
it's kind of weird that it's so hard to that
that as a as a pastime is not like, you know,
more common, and it should be, so, you know, the
(05:20):
hard part, the hardest part about the record handing thing
is when we do them to keep it from being
populated by fans that just stand there and that we
call them fomers, just like the foam in the mouth,
don't dance and and that's like that's that's that is.
It's harder than you think because it's like it's all
about like do we have to charge ticket to charge list?
(05:40):
Can we do we make a guest list? Do we
make people sign up for it? And it's like it's
kind of like if it seems like if you throw it,
if you just announced it last minute, and then you
kind of have a better shot of like keeping the
fans from standing right in front of the stage staring
ah boemers.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yo. But like everything, I feel like these record hangs
inspired at least the songs that I've heard. This is
like a really like free spirited Black Keys thing that's happening. Dance.
I'm like moving my body to the music. Did the
record hangs kind of inspire? Like, Yo, you know what
I'm in this frame of mind, let's just go with it.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Yeah, And you know it also sparked this like healthy
competition where we're trying to like find the hot record. Yeah,
every record hang, we would try to you know, bust
out something new, something no one's heard before, and you know,
being able to like play these songs too in front
of a crowd and see how they react. It's like
the ultimate test. You know, you instantly know if it's
(06:44):
working or not. And it was really kind of eye
opening some of these records that we thought maybe would
be hot and they kind of they kind of fell flat. Yeah,
or ones that work so good, and and then you know,
we do it. We've been doing it so much together
that we start dice secting these songs and then we
get in the studio and we started thinking about it
in terms of that, and it's like it's definitely affected
(07:06):
the music we've been making.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
That's so cool. That really really that that's how you
kind of drew inspiration every everything that I've heard obviously,
and then what I've watched on like the videos. By
the way, who's your videographer for these like hangs.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
We've had a couple of people then they're they're all great, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
They're killing it. So yeah, free, free spirited. I feel
like the black it's very inviting Black keys, like you're
not playing at us, you're playing like for us, everybody's dancing,
everybody's moving the other the night before baby girl, who
yo piano?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
What?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Who's doing that?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Well, you know the very first song, Well, I guess
I should go back for this album. Like in the
last album, we were you know, we were really like
it was all about collaborating and and we started with
you know, other I guess essentially songwriter singers, rock star guys.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
It was like Noel Gallagher, Beckham.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
We just did a ton of work with specifically with
those two guys, writing songs with them, and then.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
For this, for this, for this.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Album, uh, you know, we were like, well, maybe we
should instead of work with other like singers, work with
other songwriters.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
And so the first person that was suggested to work
with was.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
This guy, Rick Knowles, who who's written a ton of
big songs but specifically worked with Lana del Rey on
a bunch of her stuff, including an album that Dan produced,
Ultra Violence, And so we should reach out to Rick,
and so we did, and it just so happened that
he was coming to Nashville like the following week for
the first time.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
First time, which was a lifelong songwriter. It was the
first time he'd ever booked a trip to Nashville.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Weird, weird time.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
It was just meant to be.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Yeah, And we got together with him in the studio
and instantly hit it off and and within the first
hour we had a song.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
And he writes specifically mostly on piano. So that was
the first time we had been.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
We'd never done that forever. Remember twenty years of playing music.
We we've never really written a song with piano.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
What was it that? Were you like maybe old minds
that would be like, oh what, but were you in
a more fresh like you're like, dude, Okay, fine, let's
roll with that. This sounds dope.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
No, I mean I think, uh, you know, we invite
people that we really admire, Yeah, and we kind of
you know, when they.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Come into the studio with us, we were putting them
through our filter basically.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
So it's just as fun. It's fun as hell for
us to do that.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
And so you know what with Rick, you know, pulling
cords out because actually that like the first song we
wrote was the title track. One of the first songs
we wrote with the title track, I write no flowers
In that song, it started with a melody and it
was like getting to see like how Rick's process of
you know, like you get that, you kind of get
you're going through like school, music school essentially, because Rick
(09:58):
Steel was like he he he was interested in song titles.
So he asked us to to write, you know, come
up with some ideas for potential song titles. And one
of them was no writing, no followers that Dan had,
and so he he just was like asking Dan to like,
how you how would you sing that?
Speaker 5 (10:14):
So just were you without any music, nothing, no piano,
how would you just sing.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
That in space?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Did you just stare at him? Or did you eventually
do no?
Speaker 5 (10:22):
I just kind of went I sang no ray, no flowers,
and he just said, okay, stop and then he just
starts finding the notes, figuring out what key I naturally
went to, and then he starts building the song just
right and right in front of us, you know, and
we were just flowing and that's how it went.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And so but to hear someone that you know, to write,
you know, when when he's like a great piano players
able to voice chords in a way that would be
nearly impossible in a standard tuning our guitar especially, and yeah,
then you know, like when we decided, you know, when
we get you know, went back in the studio. A
(11:01):
couple of weeks later, we had talked about asking Scott
Storch into the studio because we've both been like, you know,
watching him on YouTube and just like you since.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
We were in high school. Yeah, he's watching videos.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
At him, you know, written some of the most iconic
parts and also just such a character that it was like,
you know, just like a long shot, like, but.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
He was down. He flew up to Nashville and.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Baby Girl was one of the songs we wrote with
with Scott, and.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
He got He came into the studio and you know,
he's used to doing hip hop sessions where he plugs
keyboard in the control room and just flips through presets
and stuff. And we had all the acoustic pianos and
all of the organs and synthesizers and shit.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
He was going crazy.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Yeah, I don't think he really ever recorded with like
live instruments sort of like that. So when we're cutting piano,
like you can hear him grunting into the microphone, the
kind of thing you don't hear when he's plugged in
in the control room.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, if you hear the very end of the Baby Girl.
That's the thing that sounds just like percussion is.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Just his.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
That's so black. He's though, so raw, so gritty.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
All right.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
So you've also too with what I've heard. You still guys,
you're still maintaining the Black Keys like famous sound it
comes through. It's crazy. Do you ever go back to
the old albums or really old songs just to kind
of draw a little bit of inspiration? Did you do
it for No Raindow Flowers a little bit? Or do
you not not?
Speaker 5 (12:27):
I mean, I think like we go back to the
well often it is a source of inspiration and like
re energizing us. Yeah, when we did Delta Cream, that
was us going back to the well, and I think
that we've kind of been on a tear ever since.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
All right, So you worked on it for about three months.
Where where were your heads at? Like what was your
frame of mind going into this album? Just like from
the beginning where you're like here we go again, or
like damn, okay, let's conquer this. What hour was your
head at?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I mean, I mean, you know, essentially, you know from
the time we released Delta Cream, which is you know,
like a Blues essentially tribute album to some guys that
really inspired us.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
So from the moment that came out, which was.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
You know, like May April May of twenty twenty one,
we immediately went in the studio and we recorded what
became Dropout Boogie, and then we just kept recording, you know,
And so then we toured and and that next thing
became Ohio Players, And when that was done and we
(13:43):
were touring, you know, we kept recording, and then that
that tour got canceled, and then we just kept We've
just been recording.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
So I think, like like Dan said, we've been on
a tear. You know.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I think that each wreck, each album we've made, is
like you know, they feel it feels like you know,
actual uh documents that they cover like a specific period
of this era we're in. But I think for this,
you know, it was like, you know, the thing for
(14:17):
this album was just like we just started writing and
got a bunch of songs ideas down. Then it was
like at some point you flipped the thing like Okay,
we have a ton of songs that now we.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Have to finish them.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
How many songs we finished I think eighteen songs, Damn
for this album, and we finished nineteen for the last.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
You're gonna keep all of them? Or are you whittling
it down for no raindow Flowers?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I mean for our album.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I think we're putting on eleven and we'll probably put
out a few more, but I mean we've Yeah, this
is I think like since twenty twenty one. By the
end of next year, we will put out like sixty
songs or something.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
It's crazy, you know, I think about it too. By
the way, this is freaking album number thirteen, which is
absolutely insane. Next year's twenty fifth anniversary. You've released four
albums in five years. I mean, you guys are like
your work horses. You have more albums than Food Fighters,
Pearl Jam, the Frogs.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
The Frogs, Yeah, my daughter, the.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Your band, dude, Yeah, freaking Frogs.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I like everything from Milwaukee.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
You guys have a lot of albums, crazy work ethic.
When I think of the Black Keys, it's resilience. You're
just your work horses. Was there anybody like growing up?
I don't know. Maybe it was a family member that
taught you the work ethic. Because a lot of bands
they get successful and they're just like cool all right,
and then that's that.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I don't know, We've always we've always had a strong
work ethic.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah yeah, I mean my mom right amount of autism.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, they're right around autism.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
We're all on the spectrum.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, you know. I mean my mom taught me, you know,
I had to get.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
A job when I was like fourteen, okay, and then
then at that point she was like, you can you
have to save half your money, then you can spend
another half. So eventually she basically taught me like, you
can't enjoy anything until you've worked your ass off and
so old world.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
You're lucky though, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's so important.
You're constantly working. What do you do when you're not working?
What do you draw inspiration from? Crypto?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Well, I mean when we when we're not working, I
think that Dan are talking.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
About working I see, okay.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Or planning something, or he's working on you're scheming on
another job.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yeah, something you never stop.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I mean I feel like if you're if you're twenty
plus years into your band and you're still feeling like
you got you know, like it's it's coming, you know,
you're you're you know, there's still something left approve or
their music is still you know, pulling you. You've got
to take advantage of that, you know, because yeah, like
you said, like, there aren't many bands that have lasted
(16:58):
twenty some years and then band have made albums and
then also made I think I think the hard thing
is I'm making an album that stands up once you
get into that like twenty plus year, you know, I
think that that gets rare.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
You know, your albums have aged so well, it's nuts,
it's crazy. So all right, we got album number thirteen
and then you guys have you said maybe eleven tracks?
What else? I mean do you do? You know, walk
me through? And I know that you've built your own equipment,
(17:35):
like you're like a wizard with that kind of stuff.
Is there anything like what's the most unconventional piece of
equipment or technique that you used during the recording of
this album?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Mmmm?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
We we've actually been using Dan's. Dan acquired a universal
audio mixing desk from the early sixties, late fifties. It's
like the tube desk called as six' ten and there're very,
sauty very solid after and it's the kind of thing
where we've always been trying to sort of make something
(18:08):
sound what we thought sounded like, that and then to
actually be able to work on, it it's a whole different.
Ballgame but, yeah back in the day we.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Were, like how can we make it sound shitty?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Again that's kind, yeah because back in the day we plug.
It we plugged something into like the four, track and
then be, like sounds like. Shit, oh we turn it
up all the, way it sounds. Better and then then
when we got like a digital, recorder, like plug it,
in it sounds like.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Shit then turn it up all the way it sounds even.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Worse so then we're, like if we plug it into
like a guitar distortion pedal, first that sounds more like
A wu tang kick From. Yeah but with the, YEAH
i think that we're both very interested In dan's a
huge collective gear and you know it's always, ACTUALLY i
think gears pretty inspirational if you're on the right.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Stuff for.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Sure any moment in, studio any moment that you could
think of that you both looked at each other you're, Like,
okay this is absolute magic where you just knew it
was like, perfect that's how you wanted it to.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Sound, no but in the movie of our. Career that
scene will take.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Face i'm gonna ask you a question about the movie
of your career. SHORTLY i DO i do have questions about? That,
Okay either Or crypto Or.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
CRISCO I I i don't own or use Either.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
No, Crisco, hell no M crisco Or. Cisco like the thong, Song,
Cisco cisco Or GENUINE i want.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
It i'm taking the. SONGS i think that is not?
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Genuine, yeah for? Sure would you drop some genuine tonight
for the? Record? Hang or is that like not on the?
Setlist think about?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
It?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Please what if we play like m, HMMM i don't.
Know i've still Taking cisco on.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
That, well, Okay i'll Take cisco, too A. Ravi i'm,
like it's eleven o'clock at. Night you how do you
do that so? Late i'm in bed by nine oh?
Five all? Right this is my other. Question you have
thirteen freaking albums to work. With are there any songs
that you feel like you never got to performing off
and you're just, like what the? Hell we never really
did this? One any like favorite song to perform of
(20:25):
all time or any song that you guys haven't gotten
to play a lot that you're looking forward to maybe
putting in the set for this.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Tour, YEAH i mean there's a lot of songs that
we've actually never performed other than the performance it's on
the on the, Record so, yeah we you, know it's
a constant battle for us to like we've been talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
How we're going to crack into the.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Catalog to start busting stuff, out and then are writing
guys Like, okay well just give me an idea of
what you're going to play and then what. Order AND
i was, like that's not, ideas like we're going to
like maybe like just pull some stuff out randomly and, think, okay,
great but this is give me like more of A zach.
SETTLIST i was, like, no, Bro like every time it was, like,
yeah but they get has gotten to a few part
(21:12):
parts of like a tour, Words it's like this is
how the show.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Goes The Kobookie, Drop i'm, like Dud.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Dylan i've never seen a review where someone's like The
Kobookie drop.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Made the.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Show everything was, okay but then the spotlight was so
perfectly shine that The.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Kobookie drop that would be a really good album titled
it would Be.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
No we've got a bunch of songs that we're Gonna
we're gonna pick, through some like a fan, favorite some.
Oldies we're gonna start, to like pull a couple of
songs in here and there during the, sets switch it
up to.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
If we wanted to be really, popular we would bring
fans on stage and let them. Perform that seems to
be the, Thing and every TIME i see, It i'm,
like this just sucks so.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Much you, know, look it could make or break a.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Shell i've NEVER i.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Mean like, Honestly i've seen so man people doing. IT
i would be not.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Thrilled what if they like stepped On you're like it.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
NO i mean like.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
You're there to see like the song won by the
guy saying, that not by like some like thirteen year
old that can barely play the.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Guitar it's so, annoying isn't. It CAN i just SAY
i get annoyed by.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
That it's.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
ANNOYING i MEAN i remember MY i was like, ten
my dad and our drive around were listened to The
Cleveland indians game and the short stop at the time
was like, sucking AND i was, Like i'm probably as
good AS J, bell and my dad stopped the cars
like J bell is a professional baseball.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Player there he. Did he's, like there's no way.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Years good As jaybell your ten year old kid, Driving
AND i kind of feel like it's like the same
thing with, like you, know bringing the eleven year old
up On it's, like, Okay.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
God bless your dad for shooting it. Straight he literally
pulled over to tell you, that.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Oh, yeah maybe we should we should get some kids
on stage and just roast like, yeah, like, okay you
have to, practice you have to.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Practice that would be so, funny just like have them
play then, stop be, like, okay, bro.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
We thought you could.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Team we thought you could do.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
It you're really not good at. It it would be
so black.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Keys because it's also like maybe they've just are so
well rehearsed that they it's so boring, Too like you
can make fun of him for. That but you, know
there's that mister show sketch that imminent death syndrome where
basically this, guy you, know it's a fake disease where
you know the person could die at any, moment and
so like everyone's going out of the way to be
(23:45):
nice to, them and then and then they keep he
keeps finding out that he doesn't actually have, it and everyone's,
like you suck, actually and then like the, Callback, no
he actually does have. IT i feel like every TIME
i see like that fan up on stage doing, that
it feels like there's emminent death.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Syndrome all, right listen next, year twenty, forth the. Anniversary
you guys have been freaking through it looking. Back is
there any, moment like after all these years where you
learn something, pivotabal pivotal about your, partnership like something about
working together that sticks out to you that was just
(24:23):
a major part of why you've stuck around so?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
LONG i, mean how to answer?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
That come? On think was it a time where you
did the kabuki drop like seven tours?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
AGO i MEAN i think you, know, uh just having
the same goals in, mine you know that, alone that's
probably most. Important, YEAH i recognizing the same levels of
bullshit and agreeing to never do that shit, again and
then doing it, again and then saying we're never gonna
(24:56):
do it, again and then keep doing.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
It it's a bad, relationship is what we like to.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Be these are external.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Forces we're just along for the, ride but at least
we recognize it.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Together pivotal, moment we're like we never whenever time we
go to this, place we never make any. Money we
shouldn't go there.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Anymore, yeah we're, Done like, okay you guys are gonna
be going there, Again, okay. Okay and it's always like you,
know this is this is really going to be the
time that you break through, there and we're, like it's
been twenty, years like this is.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
It, okay this is.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
It like we've been a band like twice as long
as The beatles and we're still trying to break Open.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Sweden, wait all, right.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
We're gonna play one more game before you. Go it's
Called guests of The. Song So i'm gonna read you.
Lyrics i'm gonna see if you guys know what freaking
Black eus song it, is because you have a LOT i.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Don't know the lyrics to any, song Including Louie.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Louis all, Right, Dan you're gonna try, here all, right just,
try oh just.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Try feel we're not feeling. Good we caught something on the.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Airplane, yeah, Listen JUST i know it's probably. Tough you
have a lot of, songs BUT i.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Won't read how contagious is bird? Flu because we think
we've both been Exposed. Sars, yeah we've Got sars.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Three all, right, Ready i'm gonna read it to. You
i'm not like a, song so you got to figure it. Out,
okay you know, ME i had, plans but they just
disappeared to the back of my. Mind that's easy.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
One, yeah we play that one every, night every single.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Night what is?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
IT i don't know there's to Any blacky song to tell.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
You that one starts with the kus are.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yea, HONESTLY i don't know a single line from A
Wu Tang clan. Song it's LIKE i literally have like
a it's a mental WELL.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
I feel ever easy it. Is he's got to have
them written down in front of him on the floor
when they. Perform there's a lot of. Music it's a
lot of.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
SONGS i barely know the. WORDS i see my kids twinkle.
TWINKLE i forget the.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Work i'm not even. JOKING i have some sort.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Of thing one point for.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Damn then.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
All, right, READY i thought you, changed BUT i should have.
Known you play nice for a time and then do me.
WRONG i don't, remember probably give the.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
WAY i read, It, yeah you're definitely trying to throw us.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
OFF i thought you, changed BUT i should have known
you'd play nice for a time then do me.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Wrong this sounds like a song we've never.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Performed Psychotic GIRL whoa put it on the.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Tour the time we ever played that was when we recorded.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
It, dude what that's.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Like that's one of those ones that we.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Get, yeah, okay well then since you're talking about that,
one see the moonlight shining on your window. Pane see
you leave you as a faithful as.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
It came the.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Lengths all, right you already got that. One, okay, ready
here's another. One but if the night gets dark all is,
Still i'll pray for, you, KNOW i will throwing it.
Back this is an old.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
One, yeah we never played that.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
One mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Hard.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Row, yeah, yeah we used to play, it played it
for like and also think dance.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Dad MIGHT i was going to say to your. Dad
your dad's on that, right, okay.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah he wrote and that we played it for the
year of two thousand.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
And, three you. Did, yeah that's when it came. Out all,
Right you have a thing no one could ever be sure,
of never even had a pure, love and never no
cure for. Him that's, nice all, right let's, see all.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Right one, more just all that's gonna, happen is you
could get a viral moment where we just the band fair.
THING i guess, WHAT i just want to, say we
WE i think The Black. Keys it could be, off
BUT i think We've we've released like one hundred and
eighty five. Songs and then this guy also has like
two solo album two solo, albums two arcs, albums plus
(29:22):
he's co written like twenty other albums with other. People
like it's like five hundred songs for this.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Guy.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Nuts, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Like the real thing is to Get Robert pollard in
here and throw this set, up because that guy's got
like a thousand. Songs AND i bet you he could do.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
IT i, REMEMBER i think he remember all of. Them spectrum. Stuff,
man all, right, fine one, more one, more one. More
sometimes the lights all shining on. Me other TIMES i
can barely. See lately it occurs to, me what a
long stream trip it's.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Been keep on. Trucking Grateful, Dead.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Oh the hell of a song you guys? Wrote how
to throw that in? There BECAUSE i think that was
one of your favorite. Concerts, YEAH i was a.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Kid, YES i went to See The Grateful dad With Jerry.
Garcia my dad took. ME i think it was like fifteen, yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Gd, baby amazing all, Right, yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
That Rich coliseum where The caves used to play nice
when they Had Brad dougherty And Mark.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Price good, memory BECAUSE i think it was nineteen ninety.
Four it would have been right a year Before. Homeboy, yeah,
yeah that's.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah and, dude when he, died he was only fifty.
Two look at pictures, THEM i.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Know oh, yeah he's only like six years older than you,
are crazy seven than.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Me, yeah, dude he looks like your Uncle ned does?
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Now yeah at?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Eight, yeah eight years? Old all?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Right, brothers which was a great. Album, well one last,
question come, on give me something. Good when's the album coming?
Out just tell me we're announcing it soon here right. Now,
no but hey, Man i'll take. It i'll take WHAT
i can.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Get.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Gent thank you for doing.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
This, yeah thanks for having, Us thanks for putting us
on the spot like.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
That.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, no it's, cool really.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Cool i'm GONNA i want to play this game with,
you BUT i want to like get just read you
text from like fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Ago did you? What who'd you text this? To you're
a piece of.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah say, it say it all?
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Right.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Brothers thank, you.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Thank you so, much thanks for having us all.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Right good, ship good, ship
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