Take It Personal Flashback (DJ Premier Interview)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Yo, take it personal. You're checking out, taking person over
with my bam.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yeah, yeah, y'all checking out to take your person to
rat yourself and yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Your boy foul month. You already know what it is
right now. You're taking out to.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Take a personal show nothing but the real hip hop
pop the way it.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Should be, shouldn't Yo, what's up?

Speaker 4 (00:22):
This is cool?

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Keith ak doctor doctor god. You get checking out taking
personal with my p J three sixty.

Speaker 5 (00:30):
Cipher for that for that out Now, I'm cool that
my man law he law man, my.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
Man, my man black. We're gonna black and playing nothing
but that on her than in classical for your back ship.

Speaker 6 (00:46):
Check check them out, check them out, check them out.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
Check it out. This is Marco Polo.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
You'll check this out.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
It's the soul brother number one peep rock for men,
your lib and director speak. You checking out, take it personal,
take your personally?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
What up?

Speaker 4 (00:58):
Though? This is first Muslim type of Miss Dell the puny.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
You are checking out taking personal.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
One call.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Loge d announced, but that's it. No frames, thank you personal.

Speaker 7 (01:20):
When my people spend in that fly ship, you heard
hip hop stay winning.

Speaker 8 (01:24):
Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, we have the man who I
consider the goat.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Mister.

Speaker 8 (01:36):
DJ Premiere has returned to take a personal radio What's up,
DJ Premiere?

Speaker 4 (01:40):
I'm good, I'm good man. How's everybody feeling?

Speaker 6 (01:43):
Good man?

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Thank you for stopping by.

Speaker 8 (01:45):
Ironically, tomorrow is the official physical release of the album
one of the best yet. So uh, I can't I
can't believe. I mean, I can't believe. But it's got
to feel really good to know the type of support
that you guys have been getting on this album.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
It's yeah, man, that was one of the one things
that I was confident about when I went into working
on on it. It was my team and everybody. I
have a dope team that's down with me. But the
one thing that I was confident about, and even J
Cole said this when we were when we were when

(02:23):
with his single First, because bad Name was supposed to first,
and then Family and Loyalty was supposed to be second.
So Cole asked me to switch it and I was like, nah, man,
I don't want to switch it because when we come
out the box, we always come with this irregular street
joint and just some dope rhymes of beat and scratching

(02:46):
and family and liality. Is a little more you know, emotional,
it's more, you know, a different, different mood, a different
feeling that I didn't want to come out with that
as our first song. And he was like, look, man,
your audience is already built and you are going to
be fine because once they hear it together through our

(03:07):
coming or just a new gang so anything, all your
fans are to work to it even before they hear it.
But they're gonna trust you. He said, So my audience
may not know who Gang Starry is and they're gonna
start looking back and check all the streamings and be like, oh,
thank you. Guys. Got a lot of hours, you know,
and let me start going through the other stuff and
they're going to see how much greatness you've done. He said,

(03:29):
you don't have to build a fan base. And he said, honestly,
in our world, when you drop a single, you usually
let it live for six eight weeks before you drop
another one. He said, with this one, you can drop
another one in two weeks and it's not going to
harmony thing. And he said, so why don't you do that?

(03:50):
And that way you still satisfied h your audience and
because you don't have to stretch it that far and
then Ma, you're gonna drop your album right after that.
I'm like, I'm still against you, but I'm gonna go
aready trust your word on that, and I went cold
with make.

Speaker 7 (04:05):
It depend right in the since Clintons ladies be damn
playing for friends, make a few him, then do it again,
Jay Cole, you would have been running with Jose Guru
Flows forever like a demon, and most could never offerign
depression shoes.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
That's for safety why I'm blessing you.

Speaker 6 (04:19):
We take a messages of destined to invest in urban.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Sections were depression rules.

Speaker 7 (04:23):
I hope to hear the destitute the flying this restibule.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
So that was him and finding me. Even though I
know it would have worked either way. I wasn't mad
at his reasoning and I went with it. So I
applaud him because of the fact that he he already
knew everything about us at the level of being able
to tell me that and not leave that part out
about how how we already have an organic audience that

(04:50):
and fan base that that's gonna support it, asserting they
know this a new gangstar that had my production art
it because that's always been the way. You know, some
the time I joined, you know. Uh, and and that's
the reason why I said, I I'm go ahead and
go with this and it works, you know, and it's
working so uh, it's there being a thing and the

(05:13):
receptions just phenomenon. I'm so happy for Gool, for Gul's
you know family and his son, you know, who was
nine years old when he passed and now he's nineteen.
You know, he's a man now. So we've been we've
been taking care of him since his dad pass to
make sure the financing straight and and he's able to

(05:33):
you know, maintain you know, living off his dad's money
and financing his legacy. And then he has being ensured
just all the love wants that really really care and
off no no, you know, no greed or anything like that.
He keeps around that type of energy. So he's very

(05:53):
focused and it.

Speaker 8 (05:55):
Comes through on this album as a Gang Star fan,
purest what what have you. It's a good, feel good
album and I know, you know, things and end the
way everybody wanted them to.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
But this is like proper closure and as.

Speaker 8 (06:10):
It doesn't feel like a posthumous album where you hear
like tracks that you question this, So this feels organic.

Speaker 6 (06:18):
Yeah, not a cut and paste job, not at all.

Speaker 8 (06:20):
It almost feels as if Guru was here while, you know,
making this with you and and to me, that's kind
of fascinating that you were able to bring that out
because you know obviously.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
You worked with vocals.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah, well that that part is just for me being
a producer and and and and and a DJ and
and a fan, and I combine all three when I
approach any project, a being that I'm in the group
of gangs, dar and I didn't you have them here
even though we had to ask you control or so
I could be motivated with it, knowing that a part

(06:53):
of his body is in the room. That's that's what
helped me to And then I prayed to ask give
him amber. I did, like my little voodoo ritual and everything,
but it was all positive warding. I follow negative energy
and just focus and then I know how we make records.
So that's why I had the only difference whether I
could do it backwards. I'm used to making the beats

(07:16):
for him, you know, based on this team makes of
song titles, where this one I had to listen and
and none of these had titles. I brought him from
his partner. Uh, they were off to said track one,
track two, track three, track four, track five, track six.
You know, so I would just either go by the
way he's said in the hook or something he said
in the line, and I would just make a I

(07:37):
call him thummy names. I'll just make a little gummy
name that could change later, but just something for me
to go by, because I can't go by track or
track track three good, I'll get confused. So I had
to listen to his lyrics. And then then, you know,
after listen to the lyrics, I got to say to myself, okay,
well this one though this I bought thirty tracks. Some

(07:58):
of them was not that good, but I felt like,
you know what, I'd rather home than him, so let
me buy him anyway, you know what I'm saying. So
I bought them, and uh, you know, there and again
there's some more things. But when it came to shaping
and powerbum, I just told the one that really stood
out to me where it sounds like I could turn

(08:21):
it into something. And then, like you said, I wanted
it to feel like I'm not salvaging some old crimes
that just are so out of date that even the
dope beat won't say it, you know what I'm saying,
And it does sound like you know, in my own
Even other people are friends of ours that we've known
for years to sit down with us m OP and

(08:43):
all them came by the studio record they were like, yo, man,
it sounds like he just wrote this ship.

Speaker 9 (08:48):
You know.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
So it was definitely an emotional time, but I was
very excited through the whole process. I knew I could
make it, make it work, just based off of me
knowing how how cool UH likes to you know, make
joints like I know what he likes. Uh. You know,
we love the same thing. Yeah, we saw many times

(09:09):
once because of the shave everything, and even after all
that stuff, we'd go out to the bar and get
drunk and hang out and that that was routine for us.
So you know, all the fights we had and you know,
all the argument over the over stupid ship, I mean,
it was usually just unnecessary arguments. But I would always

(09:30):
do what I could avoid going there because I have
a temper too, and I don't want to get to
the level of that fight and stuff because I can't.
It's hard to stop me with my temple goes that way,
and I'm not a ship. I've got a since started
food will start shipping with you and not getting not
care how you feel. If he's in that clue, if
he's in that mood that he's from, he's not gonna

(09:51):
let up until he mentally just decides to let up.
He's like a rope over and over and over, and
you'll turn around.

Speaker 10 (10:00):
To be like, damn, we took a day back up
over the crown, you.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Know, like like he was like a battery man. So uh,
it really pained me to see him go the way
he did. But uh, it ain't got everybody the fans,
all of us have been on tour us. I lived
with him from eighty eight to ninety four, you know
what I'm saying. So that's that's uh three albums, you know,

(10:24):
no four albums really, no one, Well there no moments
the nice guy stepping the arena daily operation that we
lived together, you know, different out different cribs. But but uh,
and and even when I was producing other artists, Google
was still still very well paid. You know. He had
three houses. Uh you know, he had five cars, He

(10:47):
had tons of just success financially, so he was never
stopping you know, even in my mind producing five sixty
seven other acts, we all and during you during that time,
we took four year breaks and we reunited good another
plolid albums and you know, saying give me to another

(11:08):
break after my work truth and still did and they
did a folklip real quick knocked that out and then
we still be the owners later in two thousand and three,
and and that was consistent from our last album, you know,
prior to that. So we've always been a focused group.
And again we know each other that well. Even photo shoots,

(11:31):
video shoots, performances. We never be like, yo, what you wear,
what you're gonna wear? We can show up. And we
just happened to jail, you know what I'm saying on everything.
So and then I don't know if you followed me
but on like Instagram, but you know, we've been pulling
out all my whole video sage, clipping all these little

(11:53):
clips and it shows we'll be coming a good time
back together. You know what I'm saying. I'm doing that
purposely to show anybody that balbtfle up and spreading wrong
rumors about me, about us, It's like, okay, well you
can't deny this footage. The answers about four You know
what I'm saying when they when it's supposed to be

(12:14):
all all bad looking at every much fine, we're joking around.
We last cooking each other as the whole nine, you know.

Speaker 8 (12:22):
So I don't think you need to justify that. I
think everyone really knows the history and and any relationship
to fan. You're always going to have those people out there,
and we know what Soular saying and doing, But the
reality is, no one's really feeding into that. Everyone knows
what you the legacy you guys had, the brotherhood you had,
the history you had, and you can't deny that. And

(12:44):
this album just reassures everybody of what you guys really were.
And that's why I said it's a feel good album
for me because it is that closure as a Gangstar fan,
we wanted to hear another album and and it comes.
It brings me to my next question, when did you
conscious we make that that that decision to purchase those

(13:04):
tracks from Soular to do.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
This album.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
About almost two years ago because my father got sick.
So when he got sick and then passed away, I
had to deal with you know that first, and I
was going on tour for Prime Too, and you know,
second day into the tour, my dad called, you know,
my sister, and my sister calls me, and then Daddy

(13:29):
wants to talk to you, and he's like, you know,
I need you to get down here and call them
the funeral home and start making my funeral arrangements. And
I'm just like, whoa, you know, you know this isn't good.
This is not good. And on top of that, we
were just on there, we were playing in Boston, so
you know, he's like, I really need the son, and
right there I might shut out there Daddy. So I

(13:52):
flew down there, made sure I got him home. He said,
please do what you can to let me die out
of my house, and I said, you at it. I'm
gonna make sure you pass it pass away in your house.
And I got him there two days, two days after
you got gon on me fast, you know, And so
that that that made me feel good that I carried
out his wishes. But I wasn't even the record for

(14:13):
a minute, you know what I'm saying. But at that
time I had I had bad name done blessed Mica
was first, bad name was second, and then I had
a song called h so many Rappers, but it was
a really really black version that I was just experimenting
with and it just wasn't coming out right. And that's

(14:34):
when I asked Cold to get on and uh uh,
I was like damn, and I hit Cole right back
at it. Man for my apology, dude, I ain't really
tell you that one because the topic that schools talking
about out so many rappers UH just wasn't just wasn't
jelling uh with with stuff Cole already said and his

(14:56):
rhyme was subject wise, so he was like, he was like, man,
you said that because I was feeling him this one
based off of that what you just said as well
to give us simply something else, you know, I wanted
to think I can get on. I was like that.
And so after that I stopped. Bro. My father had
to give my mom, you know, situations. My father took

(15:18):
care of my mom. And then once I got out
of all of that straight and everything was moving school again,
I went back in. But Bad Name was supposed to
drop right after the Moment of Truth anniversary. Uh and
and then uh we were going to drop to the
anniversary and then sell all our little merch was uh
from the mondu and uh in an anniversary and the

(15:42):
next day, I'm going to drop bad name.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Where to God was still here. Some of these widows
were acts of traveling. We all know that the game
has changed.

Speaker 6 (15:51):
It's crazy, how yeah, Rat's got a bad name.

Speaker 11 (15:54):
Think about it, What if the name never happened in
the true artists were getting rich for the rapping where
to dry Let's lead the politics.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
Even back then, like col google Son, man, I don't
I want you. I wanted to be down to play
your father just one time. That not on every video,
just the first one. He was like, hell, yeah, I'll
do it, and uh. And even back then, I was like, damn, man,
you've got dreads. I said, I can't really you know

(16:25):
your father never they had never had dreads that long.
And he's like, now i'll cut it, let me know
when they're gonna shoot it, And damn me. A year
and a half later, I still have that same vision.
You know that that whole vision of that video of
my vision day one And I told us so Spice
Adams already do all of this almost a half so

(16:48):
that this is why I want to shoot it. And uh.
Then I still that that was still my vision. So
even with the J Cole record, I wasn't ready to
have a director for that yet because dude, that was
a be our second single. So I said, we got
time to come up with that one. But uh, when
he said let's switch it, I didn't have nobody that.
I was like, damn, I don't even have an idea

(17:10):
for this one yet. That's what I called fast for
Freddy and said, y'all make you help me shoot the
video and uh, then we could come up with a
concept together. And I told him what I visioned. He
told me when he's been And first thing for Freddy
said was, man, I ain't like that fake will letter
ship that I saw the good fast, I ain't like
all that. We need to re enact that will and

(17:32):
clean it up that and make it make it fly.
I was like, all right, we'll write a treatment and
sent it to me. Send me the treatment and when
he said what he wanted to do, send the good
signing to his family. As soon as they saw that,
they were like, yo that So yeah, yeah, the Ruffle Trouble,
I'm like, I'm with it, and uh and then we
shot it, you know, shot it and we want to

(17:54):
talk Gelina Cole's bark. He just come from vacation literally
and he said, Dude, after this one, I'm not gonna
be doing those features. I'm about to this year. And
you know they work. And that's why I didn't know
he's gonna post on Twitter. But you know, next thing,
you know, he's posted to say he was my last feature.
So UH shout it going back to New York hollow

(18:17):
and UH shot the rest of it, and uh should
have came down and just came down because they had
a very key parts of you know, all the bullshit
was going on and uh, and I said, I definitely
gotta make sure they have in the video. And sure
was the co founder of the group, so so I
always made sure I hold him up hie, seeing the

(18:39):
day he had a long journey of gangstar. Wait before
I do it, you know. So you know, uh, like
I said, Man, my whole model is always didn't do
the right thing they wanted. And uh, you know, I
just knew that that dude had had some music. And
I went to court. I was going the court with
this family. So I was there to witness the doctor

(19:00):
down college is that operating on them all the way
till it when he died, and you know, I was, Yeah,
so I got to seeing myself with all the lives
and lying on the old. I got to witness all
that ship. So now I just got to figure out
how can I get that music? Because he's not gonna
want to sell it to be because that you know,
you don't fuck like that. So I was like, how

(19:21):
can I get it? I just been thinking, like, this
is seven years. Took me seven years to get it.
You know what I'm saying. For seven years I've been
taking him, how can I get it? Every day that
something across in my mind. I'm like, man, somehow I'm
gonna get this ship. And then my manager Ian started
just reaching out on his own. Man, no emotional attachment

(19:41):
to this because I'm new when I'm younger, and uh,
I'm gonna figure out how we get it to it.
You can have it, heal possession and you know, buy
even gott to buy him. I'm like, yeah, I'll pay
for it. It just has to be a number that
I'm comfortable to pay for. I'm not gonna say no
astronomical amount because it's not that serious. Since we got
seven novels that I'm proud of you know, we ain't

(20:04):
gonna do nothing. But she was like, uh, don't figure
it out. And he got to a point where, you know,
he got closer. The closer the man I happened. I happen.
One day. He was like, Yo, She's take this one out,
and I was.

Speaker 12 (20:18):
Like, cool, Yeah, like family, there's always so much drama
when it comes to you know, music and records. But
I have to tell you, from my perspective, there was
so much positivity.

Speaker 6 (20:28):
Behind this record.

Speaker 12 (20:29):
I mean from the points of you bringing the you know,
the ashes into the studio and you know, kind of
reconvening the Gang Star foundation. And the truth is, you
really have a proper foundation with all those guys, and
it was really cool for me. It was cool seeing
you renite with Group Home on What's Real on the record.

Speaker 6 (20:48):
And look, man, just hearing the.

Speaker 12 (20:52):
Union between you and Group Home, are you ever going
to do another record with them?

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Five Street Poetry in the game a long time.

Speaker 11 (21:02):
So you know, with me, niggas, motherfucker we live or
you fact niggas running.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
And if you want to know what is that be
the place to be re living fool Superstar.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
You see, we want to know what thread the foundation.

Speaker 12 (21:17):
You know, we presidential, but for what we been through,
as crazy as the synergy is, it just works, man,
and it just puts it puts my ears in that place, man,
and then my heart comes out strong and it's I
just love the way it feels.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Thank you man. Yeah, well we we uh we talk
about doing some more stuff. Yeah that when I wrote
the hook, I wrote the hook, I was still down
in Texas. Please take care of some family stuff and uh,
we're at and we were just getting all my dad
you know, you know, you know, just all the family
stuff straight, you know, and make sure you pensions going

(21:52):
to my mom and stuff like that. So I was down.
They just buy my toe and playing that beat over
and over. Because when I heard Royce say knocking maum
Center's group home like bela Kila nutcracker right there. Mdamn, man,
I wonder, I wonder if I should put them on
here with Royce, because I had my plan was to

(22:13):
put them on something I just couldn't take a win,
you know, what would fit, you know, and I'm very
good at that matching. This hard should be on this song.
That's hard to be on that song. And I just
started writing. I started writing that hook, and I started
going thirty five street poetry. I just started freestyling ove
my head and I did it in my phone, but

(22:34):
I was doing it with David Belakai in in mind.

Speaker 12 (22:37):
Well it's funny because it sounded like you're a scratch technique,
but yet it's you wrote it right.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
It was interesting, and so so I run it and
we we tell them to making of the album. It
wouldn't be dropping. A gangster documentary was still finishing because
we have so much footage from nineteen eighty nine all
the way to two thousand and fourths. I mean I
have know, we've already dumped a thousand, over a thousand
hours of footage. So that's why again all the stuff

(23:05):
we've been doing little short clips because we don't want
to put all of it up where you get beat
of it. We got fights and everything on table. I
mean really wild ships, fights, airports and everything, so uh,
really really wild stuff. And I'm like, you know on Alive,
Sugars Alive doing the World lives, somebody else could do,

(23:28):
so I'm like, we'll do it. So uh, that's why
we've been digitizing all these tapes and when we keep
discovering stuff. Oh man, we got a clip and just
post that. Oh look at all man, make that a
Cliples post that. So the same thing with goop home. Uh.
We we film me idicating them into food and them

(23:48):
laughing at me and everything, and then they just spit
it over my my my reference and then uh, you know,
but it sounded I wrote it with them in mind
because it's out like what they would say. Absolutely, you know,
the Melochi nutcrack is always just gang so fucking that stuff.
That's just him, you know what I'm saying. So he's

(24:09):
all about fighting people and step to the biggest dude
telling him that he'll hurt him box. Yeah he used
to box yep. So yeah, So uh, I just did
it basically with did the fine and uh and uh
they just just wrapped over my reference. It's not you know,
and and there we uh we we we recorded it.

(24:32):
But like I said, we filmed all of them and everything,
so you know, it'll show me acting like him, dabout
like them mail and all that stuff and just having
having a nice laugh or whatever and jabrew we're talking
about Man, it's been so long, you know, we should
definitely do another album. You know when the apple, when
the time is right, I'll do another album. Whatever do
so you know we uh, we got a long way

(24:56):
to go.

Speaker 6 (24:56):
He's in Berlin, isn't he.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
It's overseas right yeah, so so premium you got.

Speaker 9 (25:02):
You have so many great appearances on the album and
the the song with Jayrus my favorite from a distance.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
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Speaker 13 (25:11):
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and sixty degrees.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
We come in full circle, open the portal. Now you
witness Jardsy, mortal.

Speaker 13 (25:19):
Verbles, shine and light, infinity like the Cosmosis, a lot
of science with the finest rolemas Cosmosis.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
We're through your faction a second one of days, a
pain focused. You see, if that was a crime, we'd
be on one. It posted us.

Speaker 13 (25:30):
We kind of liked the team that killed the white
and longest my feet from on the ground and group
almost showed us. The concentration is the formulation now again
Voison pen Maestro chopped the violence.

Speaker 9 (25:41):
The line that stuck out to me the most was
the line from Royce about having the ashes on the console.
Were there any other appearances that you had planned on
lining up for the album, but it just didn't shake out.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yeah, I have Drake to get on it, because I
had just done Sandrews Rose his album Sound Like, you know,
maybe get on this, but he was so deep into
getting his tour together. Uh, it just wasn't the right confidence.
But just knocking out real fast. Not that I needed done,
like really really yesterday at that time. So uh, from there, well,

(26:17):
when Kuile Lee said his gang started a black Star gang,
I said, yo, I need both Stefan and uh and
and he was supposed to do it. I kept stressing
them and stressing them, stressing them, stressing, stressing, stressing, stressing,
and it never got done. And I said, you know
what he he he owes me. So after this show

(26:39):
in Colorado in another week, he wanted to give me,
give me a person. You know. I was stressful about it,
you know, before I do the show. And uh, if anything,
I'll do a part to the business art, you know,
because we're telling I'm doing re mixes things like that.

Speaker 8 (26:55):
Just play mathematics on that. I was just about saying
about an hour and just remind him, you guys, the.

Speaker 7 (27:03):
Supreme mode for all my negros did not say nos.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Yeah, so so you know, one of him Nas was
supposed to get on it, but it just wasn't clashing
right at the time. And honestly, Nov was like, you know,
I'm just not right. I just have no writing in
me right now. And if I'm gonna do it, I
gotta kill it because you know, I gotta sound as

(27:32):
good as grow and I just have no writing, uh
feelings right now. So I just don't want to have
to ask it. And I respected that, you know what
I'm saying, me me and go way back to be
talking like that. We hanged all the time from here
to there. So I was like, not only even sure
mass up and I ain't even manage it's gonna great.
I was gonna ask Jay without a sight now I'm

(27:53):
not gonna even approach him about it. Keep him moving.
But uh, it would have been cool I have them
on there, but uh, you know I didn't. That's it,
that's it. I could go with your cut and uh
uh Kendrick, and they said, right now he's locked in
on folks on what he's got to do next. So

(28:14):
and that's so I gave it the cold. He immediately
hit me back and was like if you heard it,
like it took it literally ten minutes. I'll show the
people in my text when I gave it to him
and ten minutes to the tee, he said, bro, I
have got the chills right now, Like, Yo, this is dope.
He's like, yo, what you put on his vocal? And

(28:35):
you know he was you know, he could even producers
either asked me, what did I used the texture in
his voice to sound like that on the feat all
this stuff. I was like, man, you know, just gave
him some some stuff of whatever was plugins I use
this and that. We started to having a producer conversation.
He's like, yo, I'm definitely on this. I got you.
He's the only thing is I did bought the sixteen

(28:57):
bars that okay. I'm like, no, you can do a
thousand ball. Whenever you're done, I'll range. I'll moved of
the hook and the rain and myself after you spit
what you gotta spend. And he did a great guy with.

Speaker 12 (29:10):
The first I'm still bugging off the non story because
he's the one who broke this story in my mind.

Speaker 6 (29:16):
On social you know, it's.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
Like, yeah, well I asked, I asked him unless we
inact the IH skin and when I explained it to him,
you're my god, I'm sending a voice voice message on
your text. He sent me that, and then I just
took the same music that Lost Professor was playing in
the background on the original I'll buy a chill, and
then I just you know, just timed it out and my, my, my, my,

(29:44):
my boy Poe, who my videographer for Headquarters, I was like, uh,
just just filmed that office phone real quick and then
blend the audio went into the and just just leave
the camera standing at the front home and he's like,
all right, cool, I'll take it home and send it
right back to you. And by the time I got home,

(30:05):
he was like, Yo, check this out like this, and
I was like, that's perfect, I said, I said, man.
And when we launched this tomorrow and it's going to
start everything off when people see this this little.

Speaker 8 (30:17):
Skit YouTube tease us for it seems like decades now
because when that when that little teaser dropped with NAS,
my first thought was, oh, ship, this is coming out
on MASSI Appeal Records or or or or NOAs and
and Premiere are finally coming to Fruition, Like this is
going to happen. So to hear, you know, the story
that he wasn't in the writing mode is a little

(30:38):
crazy because oh my god, can you only imagine? But
I have to say this, as far as the album goes,
it doesn't feel forced. You hear a lot of albums
like with a lot of guest appearances, like like Dray said,
hearing Jay ruin Group Home and Shug and Fox, it's
just and Emilta, Yeah, it feels. It feels rightly. You

(30:59):
got Q tip from what I heard and tell me this,
but you wanted to drop a verse. But he had
surgery I think prior to recording that.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he had a minor thrust so it
wasn't a major but it was his minor throw surgery.
So he was when I talked. When I called him,
his voice very raspy, and I was like, damn, man,
I said, I show want you to do a hook
on on this song. I didn't want to first hook.
He said, well, man, he said, I can't really record

(31:28):
right now. He just send it to me and I said,
just send it on sex to me on my phone,
touched it to him. He hit me back. I was like, yo, man,
this ship is dope. He said, my boye actually could
sound kind of dope, a little raspy, you know. But
he said, you don't like the way it sounds. You
gonna have to wait till my voice gets clear. And
and he said, I'm gonna sending a little video of

(31:50):
me doing it. And he he said, uh, city thought
he was describing a hit man wife and how he
has to live. So he said, how the hit man
just say I'm ready to do another job. So I
was like, all right. He sharing me back a few
minutes later, set the little video clip on the playing
like in it lab. You can't see him on the screen,

(32:12):
but you see the board Hawaiian. So godall I I
the boost to the music or whatever. And it was
like smoothing around and out. He had all the film
or like lights and ship. So he played it. He
turned it on and goes, yo, you might go and said,
then you know's how the clips get it. I called him,
like that ship that is perfect. So I've seen the

(32:35):
vocals and so many forms of the vocals right away,
and I got the bag.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Back, I got the ding.

Speaker 14 (32:42):
Thing that's in the sling here is let me let
it brings down you got.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
The bag back, I got the ding.

Speaker 14 (32:52):
Thing that's in the sling here is let me let
it bring. I got potatoes and the mufflers and the
whole thing.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
With the.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
It sounds like he was totally doing that off the cuff.

Speaker 6 (33:03):
Not only that, I thought he was in studio.

Speaker 12 (33:05):
So I was like, I had these like visions of
these two like amazing production minds together, and I was
going to ask you if there was any like clash
on synergy or anything like that. But that's the great
thing about this where we're at in hip hop. I mean,
if you guys ever collaborate the greats, just come together,
we can work forever.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
Yeah, you're right, absolutely right man. For us to be
you know, in our forties. I'm fifty three, you know,
Goove with the fifty eight, you know, for him to
you know, he would still be around me like that
if we were letting the lamb together working on an album.
So but that's why I already told myself, if it

(33:48):
sounds like it's gonna sound like a like the Biggie Duet,
I'm like, I'm not putting the shit.

Speaker 8 (33:54):
Out well, And like I said, it does not sound
like that kind of an album. When you when you
got the the acapellas from from Solar, did you hear
them first before you bought them or you just.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
Yeah, yeah, I want to make sure I wasn't get
the charge.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
So you knew what you were getting. So you didn't
have that first.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
Time with lawyer and brother, I was like, well, you know,
I said we can't see each other because I didn't
want to see him, and I didn't, you know, I
just so with my tip over the dog. So I
was like, I don't want to see him. My lawyer
was like, oh, just have and bringing to you that
you hear him, because you got to know if he
round uh familiar to you, you know. First time he

(34:40):
brought him, they were all slipped to me, you know,
like sad out. At the thirty second, I'm like, I know, damn,
this is bullshit, you know. And then he set up
another meeting because I was like, how do I know
that he don't really fade out like that like you
see still revenant and buy you know, to buy him.
The second time he brought it at them in full

(35:01):
and uh, I started hearing just silently to myself, that's
what I said to work.

Speaker 12 (35:16):
So I just want to give our listeners a little
bit of background because originally Solar said he had nothing
of of Guru, right, and it was years he was
throwing this under right, yeahn and like he came he
came out after after all these years like a fucking
cockroach and decided, Hey, it's time to make some money

(35:37):
on this situation and it and basically exploit Guru.

Speaker 8 (35:41):
We we wanted to give a little backstory to the listeners,
letting them know that Solar obviously didn't he was lying,
he he didn't have anything, and.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Then he did.

Speaker 9 (35:49):
Hey, when this is all said and done, this motherfucker
is going to go down as one of the biggest
villains in the history hip hop.

Speaker 8 (35:54):
But I got to praise you, Primo. You've always taken
the high road with this and and it's very admirable.
Most people would not and and I don't condone violence,
but I don't know how how in this day and age,
when you have Big Sugar and Freddie Fox with like
Finn Raims, how does Solar walk around, you know, getting
away with this is what I.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Just don't every bone broken.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
You hear me talking, Hell, billy boy, I ain't do
with you my damn sight, I'm gonna take medieval on
your ass.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Well, the best way is to not not run into anybody.
And he's never around where we are, so you know,
I'm pretty good smart, you know, being being in any
of our territory, because you know all of us ought
to fight. I can fight, you know, all of us

(36:47):
group and all of the fight. You know, we've been
so a height with m O T. You know, I
love how to even use my left cook because of
Billy two to me out of prow to throw my
left better to each other. He said, if I didn't
get perfected, I could end up getting my job tapped

(37:08):
where where my left could protect can't knock somebody down.
So he's always that's when getting me improving on my
left punch. At one time we started playing around with
me building, you know, throwing punches at me, and my
left hand is st right that at Billy. He didn't
connect out of playing around, but he was like, Dad,
you got it now, okay, so h now my left

(37:31):
is always ready when when it needs to be used.
But uh, you know, obviously we're just not in the
same area. I mean, we were to the point where
when Google was gonna be performed the FOP. We were like, Yo,
we're going to that show and we're going to corner
him and find out why the hell he's breaking out
on the diff appearance. What the fuck is going on?

(37:54):
You know, like like and in the day of the shouting,
can't like, oh boy, if I had to think clife Frank, Yeah,
I know all my guys just showing up to find
out why did I everybody? Well? Then they then they
were playing. Then they were playing in Boston. Sure, it

(38:14):
was like, no, I'm gonna go to Boston show, So
don't worry. I got it. I'll see them and find
out with their phone all night break out. Day of
the Boston show, he gets canceled. They're like this motherfucker,
you know. So it's home the strain. But you know,
at the end of the day, uh, we got we
gotta be smart. Adupe. You know, i'thing happening to that kid.

(38:36):
I'm I'm the highlight of the whole prama. So laughing.
You have anybody questions for something, they're happened to that guy.
So you gotta take the road. It's like Carver, it's
gonna do what it's gonna do. So I'm gonna car
my hand, you know. And then I just saw the

(38:56):
claim that I stole astonishing played dry. It's like we
just laugh because it's like, come on, man, like I'm
not even also being a sisty dude in the industry.
And I've been in the thirty years. You know, I
don't lie about being a Grammy Award with a producer
you know, which he's not. And but you look at
it is our Instagram and says he's a Grammy and

(39:17):
water win the producer. It's just really scary. It's actually
scary because I've just never had a fan sweat being
Google so much, you know, ever, like like even the
biggest fans of everything like this, and then you claim
and everything is yours, and it's like, why won't you
give to his son? It's you have a nine year
child at that time when he died, he was nine

(39:40):
years old. Everything you feel about his son and his
son's future, that's it. And then you're saying you're five
percenter and you're a puzzlem but you're not dealing with equality.
Everything you're doing is against God, you know what I'm saying.
So then a book is like how could you write
a book and you don't even know us that well,
Like you know our people that I know that bought

(40:03):
the book, uh know, they didn't buy it. They were
able to pay a copy and show me a few pages,
and I you know when I read those, and I'm like, man, uh,
he never stuff saying when I would to show up
to the studio, he would produce the songs. But on
the owners, I'm like, play you would because he and

(40:23):
d knows when I'm in the wrong that will be
spot that my engineer is out the doing because Goody
ain't gonna stay when I'm not there. Goo likes to
be there when I record his vocals because he knows
I know how to how to coach the vocals well.
And we never had nobody outside of us through the
vocals gangst us. So it's like, uh, you produced it

(40:45):
when I left like them, you know, whenever I would
show up, I show up all the time. That stuff
up well. And then on top of that, Uh, why
would I need a producer when that's what I do.
That's what I'm doing for money transaction? So you want
the money transaction to buying thirty tracks? Why would you

(41:07):
be under the assumption that I'm gonna I'm gonna produce
it together. For what, I don't have nobody to do whatever.
I've done everything myself, the baseline and guitar, the keys,
everything I'd come doing that way since I started, he said,
for no one, mister nice guy, because I was still
learning how to produce it. That album was mean by

(41:28):
engineering cool. We would always all have the butt together.
You hit that, I'll hit that. I'm hit the stand,
you hit the high you know, go and hit it
right there. That's why we did at nice that. That's
why I have such a more amateur sound. But once
when I want step in the arena, uh came out.

(41:49):
I was getting better at making feet and and and
understanding of science of mixing and production, and then by
daily operation, I was really confident, like okay now, but
I was strolling by the ears, you know. But still
through all that, I was still doing everything by myself.

(42:10):
So I'm not going to ask for help down after
all these years of do a gang star, I'm excited
to do it myself anyway, you know, because I can't
wait to see what I'm want to come out with.

Speaker 8 (42:20):
I think his lifeline has always been connected to guru
and gangstar. That's why he calls himself the DJ Gangstar.
I mean, the reality is that he doesn't really have
much people that don't have a lot on on everything,
and he's a guy who seems to want the credit.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
He can't allow you to enjoy the success that you
guys currently.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
Have with the new album still spooky fucking spooky, but yeah,
I like Carmon deal with it. Like I said, Uh,
you know, get physical and all that stuff you can
lead to to too many other things that that that
could incriminate being I'm not doing those ships like that.

(43:03):
I'm in John life. I got a young son who
he was dead. I'm in a great place. My team
is always always one point and ready for whatever. Grouping myself,
I know how to move in this in this world
because we've been doing so much during our hip hop career.
You have to know how them home around. When you're

(43:23):
in hip hop, it's different, you know what I'm saying.
These street music because you're dealing with nuckleheads. You're dealing
with people that want to Robbie, deal with gun plays,
dealing with all kinds of things to fight ball, you know,
so much stuff. So with all of that. That's another
reason why I have been smart with how I own
and smart with how I handle all of the emission.

(43:45):
You know what I'm saying. And it's at fifty three
years old. You think I'm gonna moving into super moves
a fucking out.

Speaker 8 (43:54):
Well, ironically, it's funny because the last time you were
on the show was when Podgy passed and we had
a special and you were one of the one of
the guests, uh, and you were talking about you guys
getting into it. I think it was Jack the Rapper
with with Prodigy and Fight. So it seems like for
a guy that I don't think we associate you with
being physical like You've always been classy. You've always been

(44:16):
like you know, maintained a certain but.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
You roll with motherfuckers that will people.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
You won't play. You got that that that age town
blood in you. You definitely don't play.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
And got the praise you in that too, Uh, which
is where I moved. We moved to what's up, moved
out of Neuston to the towns called Prairie and uh,
that's where I went to college. College and we're in
you know, I love sports, you know, we're with me
Swack with the South Southwest uh conference. So we we

(44:52):
uh we were a smaller town or a division one
or anything like that, but uh, you know we're one
of the town of uh of great people. So you know, yeah, man,
I enjoy what I do and I still love doing
hip hop every day.

Speaker 9 (45:10):
You know what's funny based on what you just said,
being from Houston Prairie View, you're touching on all that.
Your sound is very quintessential East Coast and you're Houston, dude.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
It's amazing that it went where it went.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
Well, you gotta remember when I got in that we
didn't have any other sounds from other other cities to
go by, like West Coast came a little later, but
all we had was the guy was It was just no,
there was no other go to believe that. If there
was Kansas City at the time, that's where I would

(45:45):
have been. New York. Yeah. So so I was raised
on I want to even say raised on because we
were around when it starts, so you know, in seven
three when it's just a break beats and all that stuff,
all the way leading into the MC aspect of it.

(46:06):
I got to witness and be a part of understanding
that that phenomenon to where when it got to the
point of MEVI in an artist, I already knew exactly
how I did, knew how I wanted it. Child wants
to just teach me how to work the equipment that
makes it do it, you know, Like I was like,
is that the thing that's making it sound like that
with the samples? Teach me how to do that through

(46:29):
which I give King a chill.

Speaker 6 (46:31):
Uh uh.

Speaker 4 (46:34):
He's the audio too, in line, right, you know, he
his paper thing and shot shot, shot and so forth.
He was the one I was like, Yo, this do
you do this, do this, do this, and it makes
you do that? And once I used to go over
his moms out to practice. Once I had it down

(46:56):
pack mentally, I was like, Okay, I'm exactly a lot
of them, like when I want to sound like and
I know how to mast to the artist. And again
it's just sort of into it that deep Brown I've
always into. I'm just such a music jump so and
not just hip hop. Hip Hop is just my my

(47:19):
major part of my career, but I love all our
rock jazz constantly.

Speaker 6 (47:25):
Matter well, the production changed a lot on this record.

Speaker 12 (47:28):
I mean normally, you know, there is that Uh, there's
definitely that premiere catalog of snares and kicks, and it
was nice to hear some different sounds out of the
norm from you man on this record. And uh, I
don't know if it's it's about sample clearance and things
of that nature, but you definitely stepped outside of your norm.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Like I know, y'all, this is the one I owe,
y'all when you see an act like you.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
Know, I know, y'all know what what what a lock? Y'all?

Speaker 15 (47:57):
Motherfuckers can't even handle what I know, y'all.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
This is the one y'all when you see you know,
I know ya'll can't even.

Speaker 15 (48:09):
Handle what I know, y'all.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
It was just just like I said, I found it
down like a very different but still solid gangster house.
And and then they had to match the artists. That
was repair enough with you know so, and it sounds
like a continuation of where where the owners left off,
you know what I'm saying. It doesn't sound like uh,

(48:33):
you know, like I said, it doesn't sound like a
thousand stouts. It sounds like a complete gangster album. They're
always from the artwork, you know, from going through Danny
Hastings Old the Hard to Earn photos eating going, Yo,
look at this two top grouse and I'm all don't
I'm like yeah, he said, yo, maybe that could be

(48:54):
which is for the cover. I'm like, yo, you know what?
Because Jake Cole was the one that was like, no,
the pictures pictured by some of the recent stuff before
he before he passed and I was still together, and
he's like, uh, you should be something. That's why I said,
Danny Hayston. We started messing with Danny from Hard to

(49:16):
Iron always. All of our other album all went from
Hard Iron Trump the owners and for Cliffs and shot
went Rollins who did the did the hard on all
those including this one. So I said, Danny got the
photo shoot of Hard to Earn. He's like, yeah, the
drop box. I started going through the pictures, even one

(49:36):
with bad name. I don't know if he said was
a bad name blurry that yeah, he's really blurry like
that for real. So that's why I'm mighty man was
like that ghost, great bother one together and the point
all one too, and all that's from the Hard to
Earn photo shoot. But when Cole was at the video shooting,

(50:00):
you know a sup more vintage. That's how we ended
up saying, you know, they have to take this right
here because that thing that shot right there on the
cover is some when we were doing with the massive
and that thing Home had on that one. It's just
it's black and white and there was no gangs over

(50:20):
on the wall. Some point you know, doctored it in
and so the he was the itally at the time,
going young man about dope. You know that I want
to be almost like we're on to just play at
you know that guy thought, but no matter what, I
want a tot in a fight, so you don't sure

(50:41):
she returned to fighting and that got that cover and
even guys got invested Nation lock up, don't use the
museum in Italy and they got the dope lights that
look almost different track lights like a call for poll.
He's just coming with streaking. He's put a picture in it.

Speaker 8 (51:08):
It's funny you had mentioned that Danny Hastings cover.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
I have that.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Danny sent it to me.

Speaker 8 (51:12):
He's autographed sitting above my piano, the hard darn cover
and that I just found.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Out was the same.

Speaker 8 (51:18):
I don't know if it's a studio, but it's the
same set for thirty six Chambers.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
The backdrop, Yeah, yep, yep, which is crazy.

Speaker 8 (51:25):
You you look like a rating from Mortal Kombat with
that hat on, and for me, the glasses like you
guys are just too cool for school. And to me,
it's one of the greatest, most iconic covers and I
love I'm a huge Hastings fan obviously.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
But yeah, yeah, he did, he did, he did. Uh
uh summarized, he's He's done a lot of covers Nasu.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
Ray Kwan krs, He's done everybody.

Speaker 8 (51:55):
Hastings is a legend and he's archive like that golden
era of hip hop. Everything goes links right.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Back to Danny.

Speaker 8 (52:02):
Yeah, let's let's get in some fun stuff because we
were talking about fighting and and and solar and I
feel like the energy.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
Let's get in a little little fun stuff.

Speaker 8 (52:11):
I want to know this because I think it was
either you or Pete Rock when he was on our
show last What's up with this Dayla album that you
guys have worked on.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
We're almost done. We started off where we let each
other hear the first three tracks and now we're we're
in a battle situation where Pete doesn't want me to
hear the rest of his and I don't want to
hear the rest of mine, so uh so we'll it's

(52:41):
almost like a friendly battle, but uh we're both bringing
the noise. It's gonna be a dope fucking Have.

Speaker 6 (52:48):
You guys named that record?

Speaker 4 (52:50):
No, not yet. We're just doing the tracks and uh,
you know they come up to New York and they
go to shit with him, and it's like, I'll call Pete. Yeah,
you know, you'll suck them. Man. You know it's gonna
be go.

Speaker 6 (53:07):
Is it track for track?

Speaker 4 (53:10):
Right now? We're like, you know, let's do eight out
do eight and then let's see where we are. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (53:16):
I think it's a tail of the tape on that
one Man Ship.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Yeah, I'm coming over with it. I got some man,
I'm playing this daylight. You know, I got excited. I
am as a fan.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 9 (53:27):
If this was the nineties man, and we were still
cassettes beside a premiere side side B.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
Yeah, December sixth, it will be the finyl of the album,
and that was to make cassettes as well.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
Oh wow, I know I ordered that.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
I think I ordered off Amazon a while ago. So
that's good to hear that.

Speaker 8 (53:50):
The date is the sixth, and the physical comes out
tomorrow in stores, so that's great. So we talked about
The Daylight and you the Pete Rock. I love the
way you got you guys together. I know you've always
talked about doing an album. We've already heard about the
Nas thing. Maybe we need to have Jake Disnas again
to get him writing again for you, because I think
you and not before, you know, before it's too late,

(54:12):
Like we do want to hear that. I mean that
that's something we've all been waiting for. But you know,
can I make a suggestion. This is a random one
that may have more likelihood of happening, but I would
absolutely fucking love to hear you do an album of
like bun Be or or even just Houston cast like
k Rhino or even.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
Faces K Yeah yeah, k Reno. Yeah. We already talked
about doing a project and being fun. I have fun
to do one a while ago and you're like, oh,
I don't have time right now, like uh okay, now
before Gangs album dropped or even knowing about it. He's like, oh,
you're ready to do it, and I'm like, damn, man,

(54:53):
I said, damn it, fun, I pull, I can't do first,
and he was like, I know, I know, I know,
so let's do it real quick quick ep And I'm
like I can't right now, but I said, I'll tell
you why later, and I told him my gang so
so like what we've talked about doing it, uh b Ka,
Reno and buff By.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
So then, so you nailed it.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
I nailed it.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
Ship.

Speaker 11 (55:16):
That's it.

Speaker 8 (55:17):
I mean, because I'm thinking you could do a West
Coast album, East Coast album.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
I would love to hear you sell that album.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
And I'm mixing the NYGS album right now.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
That that was a question A lot of the fans
wanted to know, when is.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
That album problem? Finally we're finally finished. We're just mixing
it right now. It's a dope album. It's really really gun.
I can't wait to goe here.

Speaker 12 (55:38):
I'll even take it a step further. You could even
do the next installment of Jazzmintas and bring Ship back. Now,
a lot of a lot of our listeners don't even
know this, but you were actually offered the original Jazmintas
project and you turned it over to Google. You want
to talk about that a little bit and give them
a little insight.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
Google just was tired of that during the nineties era,
we were being called jazz rap because of the jazz
samples that I was using, and you know, but we
weren't rapping about jazz. You though. We did a couple
of jazz UH tribute songs like Jazz Thing and Jazz Music,
but those are dedicated to our grandfathers who were jazz

(56:16):
performers and fans of the music, so we did it
as a tribute to them.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
The music called jazz.

Speaker 11 (56:40):
It's rutu in the sounds of the Africans or should
I say the mother bringing us back to Jack from
the drummer on the cargo.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
It came with a strong.

Speaker 11 (56:47):
Fluff and continued to drum beat, moved to the beat
of the to bollow and I think the story and
follow but then Atlantic on American soil, to the sweat,
blood and the soil.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
Like we heard that when he saw Manifest, because he
said school with him Malcolm X to the video which
made him by the album and he was fucking Hope
at the Blues at the time, which I was such
jazz oriented, uh, subject of the movie with Denzel Washington
and Westy Steps. So because of that, he said, man

(57:24):
that jazz music did on some of them. That's nice guy,
it's dope, but you didn't go as in depth as
I would like you to go. If I gave this poem,
it doesn't rhyme, but it's still a poem uh by
this guy named Eric Eli. I think Google would take
that poem and like flip into a rhyme style and
you can do it and we'll put it on the soundtrack.

(57:45):
Was like yeah, and that's how I met brand from
oursellers and we buckled down did the song.

Speaker 9 (57:50):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
The obviously the soundtrack version is very enhanced with the
band and everything like that, but my original demo version
is the one that's in the video. That was how
I presented it from the top. So he was like,
Fike was like, you know what, when we do the video,
I want to go with your original demo version, which

(58:11):
is just looping up the sample and and the way
you cut the you know, I kept I looked to
me doing that on a you know, I'm turning table
and then I just looped that and uh, if you're like, yeah,
this is the person I want from that point, Uh,
we were always being labeled a jazz rapped like us

(58:33):
did we plant us three a couple other artists, and
Google said, ye, I'm tired of the calling and stuff
because we're not there. Jazz rap means you are rapping
about jazz. Were wrapped about topics like people getting robbed
and and uh, you know, going out with a chick
or just robber about how nice I am on the bike.
So when, uh when the when the project was pissed

(58:55):
to me, I was like, well, man, society, you know,
I'm producing so of the artists outside of Gangstar. When
we have a break, why don't you do it? And
that could be a new project that you do aside
from your ill Kid project and your bought split project.
And he was like cool, you know, I figured what
to call it Jay with the Damage and named it Jabad.

(59:17):
So he paid Jay Row. We picked him up in
Google's card to pay him the money because he came
up with the name.

Speaker 6 (59:24):
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
Yeah. So I was like, yo, you doing man and
in that way? And Google said, Yo, you know this
this would be dope because it will protect Gangstar from
being labeled as that and then I could just do
this whole other thing. I think exactly, Okay, take it, it's.

Speaker 6 (59:40):
All good, great story.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
I didn't know that, so those Jaw named it. That's
why even when dudes and that guy's even claiming that
our damage minds like no, that's Guru and Jay Row,
that that created that Patrick Boxy Gool I'll manage at
the time, and Patrick created Payday Record. That's why all

(01:00:04):
of us were being managed by Patrick. Patrick was like
the superducedo going with Jaw. I'll put all those on
my label. He gave us like one hundred and fifty
thousds per project, and we gave us straight to gays.
We didn't the money.

Speaker 12 (01:00:23):
Those Jasmintas budgets were much greater than what you guys
were probably like six.

Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
Went down. I did. I did.

Speaker 10 (01:00:32):
My ship for freaking was like, I got you are.

Speaker 6 (01:00:37):
Drug got that was cool. You passed it off too.

Speaker 8 (01:00:39):
Yeah, you mentioned Jay Row and going back to the
album where it feels good to not just hear you guys,
but it's like a reunion of sorts, like the guys
are all back together and I know I know jarews
in Germany, but nowadays it's very easy to work together.
That that that chemistry. I mean, it sounds like, you know,
nothing changed. You guys were back making you know, uh

(01:01:03):
music like it was it was, you know, the mid
nineties again, it's my favorite. Can can we expect to
hear more material between you and Jeri?

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Yeah? We would talk about doing another album again, you
know really well, we definitely said that. Man, I definitely
want to do another album for sure.

Speaker 6 (01:01:19):
What's the title of that one? Sunsets?

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah we have we haven't. I haven't
even thought that far into it. I see, I still
got a lot of other products. I got to finish
it out. But once we get that open window that
makes sense. Yeah, I'll go back in the windle.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Well, I was good.

Speaker 9 (01:01:38):
I was about to ask you, Pream, how backed up
are you? I mean, are you in the studio every
single day? Do you go in there a couple of
days a week? Do you have like eight projects lined up?
But how backed up are you?

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
No? Every day? Because I don't just make beats just
to be making them. I only make from the spot
when I have something to do. So I'm like, you know,
this is let's get crack if I go every day?

Speaker 12 (01:02:02):
And how important like is your radio show? Like what's
your normal uh, what's your more normal routine? As far
as like what takes precedence production to family.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
How do you balance.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Everything when it comes to my radio show with Tuesday nights,
I don't listen to new music until the day before,
and I just thumb through everything real quick, you know.
If it holds me between you know, a good you know,
twenty seconds or so, then I'll kind of listen to
it a little bit longer. And then you know, based
on who it is, especially if somebody I'm not familiar,

(01:02:35):
and I'll put it in the folder for you know,
it'll be the always updated every week, so it'll be
the newest folder. And out of that stuff that I
listened to, the stuff that's not really hot, I delete
it and take it out of my computer, you know,
and just you know, I might not even do it
that day, but I'll just, i know, put folder, draw

(01:02:56):
all that other stuff away, and then from there, I
don't have a set where I mixed. I just make
that being I know that that's the latest quarter for
this week, I just go, you know what I'm saying, like,
I'll figure out what I'm gonna start with, and uh,
once I know when I'm start with, then I just
I just freestyle everything, you know, and and I think
it's better that way because you're anuine live so you've

(01:03:20):
got to constantly be on point to like keep the
floor of the show going. And when I scripted, you know,
I just use my Instagram, like see what I posted
the last five six days Friday and Tuesday, and then
you know I might go, oh yeah, shout out to
so and so we had a birthday, you know, or
stuff like that. But we don't have like notes, We

(01:03:41):
don't have anything, uh a pay piece of paper we
used to uh pass around talk about topics. We just
kind of it's like going to hang out with your boys,
spoke a little read and have something to drink and
kicking and watching some football or any sports. And that's
how we feel when we're together. It's like we look
forward to it because it's a hangout type of atmosphere.

(01:04:01):
And then from there, I just make sure I play
many records as possible. I'd like to always get it
like having guests, because time to take stuf to them,
do real live calls, and then just even the interview
based off where it's going to go. I can't get
a lot of new records in and I want people.
I see so many people that sent me that tag

(01:04:22):
me and they're like, show up the radio screen and
they're going, yo, pree's cutting my record up. I don't
even know these guys, the Records Dough, the the records Dove.
I cut it up and they're all excited in the card.
They like, well, this thing is starting, and I'm like, wow, man,
that's how it was for us when Read and Learned
and Marley Laul and Chuck Chill Out and also two

(01:04:44):
were doing that to us. That's how we felt. So
I know that feeling when somebody's cutting your record up
on them stop two wheels. It's like, I love giving
that feeling. That's doing my radio show is one most
fun things to ever do. Because I'm breaking these records
based off of my ear. I'm not playing it because
everybody else is playing it. I think it's dope.

Speaker 8 (01:05:06):
I'm playing the the amount of music that you have
to go through, so you have a twenty second kind
of rule if it's if it's popping, you'll continue to
listen to it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
Not all the time, but you know it just has.
You know. Sometimes there's some little cuts. I'm like, cut,
cut this up, and then the round sucks and I'm
like I'm playing this, you know what I'm saying, because
the rom sucks even though the beats singing and the
cuts are though, there's no way I'm playing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
Well, you've done.

Speaker 8 (01:05:34):
You kind of stepped outside of your camp and you
did something with Griselda, which is very cool because here
and know, the eyes over your beat was refreshing for.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
A lot of us.

Speaker 8 (01:05:44):
But how do you keep you know, you got to
keep you obviously here to the streets and the pulse
on new music.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
What is it that you know it's been moving you
this year?

Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
I mean it's it's so I mean a big deal
because you know, they they showed that they you know,
Danager giving them a sound of Buffalo and and just
doing it the way that they do it. Now, you
have a lot of people that are starting to just
do slow beats, that are saying a sixty eats a minute.

(01:06:19):
I'm just saying, don't don't start making slow beats like
Griselda just because that's the way that works for them.
I keep on bringing some some shit of your own,
you know, it's just it just has to sound original
to me and sound like some some raw underground boom
back Predominantly boom back. I like West Coast stuff, playing confidence,
most wanted around because they got some ship. But uh,

(01:06:43):
you know, I'm not at the traffic types down. That's
not things uh predominantly. You know, my son loved it
eight years old. But I want to. I want to.
I like the traditional sound that I was right that
I came up home to more pronominally Boombath is rhyming
and scratching, but didn't have anything close to that. That's

(01:07:03):
without play.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
That's what we love, I know.

Speaker 8 (01:07:06):
I mean, if there can only be more of it,
if we can relive ninety three, ninety four, ninety five,
if we would, let me ask you this question, because
I know sometimes you're hesitant to to say something because
they're all your babies. But if I had to say,
Gun to Head, what would you feel represented you the
best as far as production right, Hard to Earn, Living

(01:07:28):
Proof or The Sunrises in the East. Out of those
three albums, what do you think was your best? They're
all classics, no denying that. Well, if you had a
big one gun Tohead.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
Well that's a plus one. Yeah, musicals everybody that live I.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Proved undeniable classics, but some around the.

Speaker 4 (01:07:51):
East was a big building. He was our first artist.
You know that that that came out of the gangst
Our stable. I mean, we're a big sugar but boundary
of the gangs. Job Jay Rue. When when Groole told
me this, both picked three groups to sign the gangst
Our productions, I said, uh, Group Home, Sue and Jane

(01:08:13):
Rude to be my three. I was like, okay, well
let me produce it. And I'm making most of the
pops because I said, what we gotta come out. They
got to come off as strong as we already coming
off the gas. Start the production. You can get sit
back and collected, collect your half of the money. I'm
fine with that. And and that's why even when I

(01:08:34):
when I heard so much about money missing and that
time miss and now we got robbed one time back
in ninety two, our bus got robbed, actually it was
it was actually ninety three and we got robbed on
our bus. Groogle forgot to lock the bus. Uh you know,

(01:08:55):
because obviously he gets a key to the you know,
the luggage thing. We do all the luggage and turned
it back. Then who carried Turnty was on tour and
googled into it with a guy and a young kid,
not not a child, but a younger kid, and he
wasn't got it. Drunk. Brother came back top of the
ship and uh, we were staved at the time, but

(01:09:18):
Jamie Rue was back at the bus, and Jim Rue
was a stand up guy, so he told the fuck
off and they got to a fight that brought more
people out, and they started grabbing our luggage off the bus,
and he just happened to take one of the bag
that held some of our tour money. And and and
you know, the cops came and we were able to

(01:09:40):
retrieve our bags. And they were strolling all over the
fall up the street clothing where because they found too
bad that they took to the police station. We did
the station and the claim, make sure it's our bag.
The bag all ripped up and the money gone. And
now that happened in France and Marseille, France, and three

(01:10:00):
other than that, nothing else ever happened in club. When
it comes to all the money that uh that we
split fifty fifty and he can't take more than me
and I can't take more than him. So there's no
way that either one of us can can rip each
other off. Because of the accountant. We don't choose accountant.

(01:10:22):
We're some little working out of somebody's house and stuff.
You know, you know that that's not the slight accountants
that don't come from you know, a certified CPA level.
But we're with amazing company at that time where when
he take that one hundred dollars not don't you know
one hundred dollars or I can take that one hundred

(01:10:42):
dollars to offset the balance, and and for time I
will or another would because we were both bringing him
money on solo stuff and together stuff. Solo stuff he
done a different accountants so that I anything getang stuff,
we would deal with it together. So in it he
doesn't do anything on Jerry's album, I still give his

(01:11:04):
hat and I'm happy to give it to him. I'm
nothing going, oh well, he has to do it, so
like to go out. Now that's a real business partner.
But that's cool. I don't like rob, you know, so
you know it's it's really a figy take the day.
And then you know, so when my fat is my

(01:11:26):
money and gone and.

Speaker 10 (01:11:28):
I'm getting a robed and I was like, why would
I want to rob my part when that's maybe that's
a bad look for us to get at the crew.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
Now he gets robbed big you know this, the fucking
uh beats for the for the robber might go damn,
well they just change took his car or whatever, and
his money get dext and that they see, you know,
more vulnerable for target. At least they fined gonna lads

(01:12:00):
the idea gool be getting robbed, Like that's what I
don't want to knowing that ship that ships might be
and thus so why would I want to be Bobby
Hobby or the friend of minds because we had a
few flights here and there, and that's my the the
gun actually goes off and kills him, Like, come on,
we're not We're not We're not foul people. There's a

(01:12:23):
difference between being a bad person and a foul person
and people. So that's why when I see him just
talk and talk and talk, I'm just like, yo, yeah,
you'll you know, coma is going to really fuck you
up because it's like, I don't know where you get
all this monstens from, and I don't hear you certain
things when he's drunk or you know, when he then

(01:12:46):
know he several meal was over now as always you
never follow over over anything that was worthy of extending
the argument. But you know, just all the crazy stuff
that comes out with with like you you went around
us to live it. And then on top of that
we you know again, we've always split everything fifty fifty

(01:13:10):
except for outside project and outside projects was just a
successful gangst our. Tours were successful and uh, you know,
just thinking that, I know, I know, I rambled a
little bit, you know what.

Speaker 8 (01:13:25):
I feel like this is more like a shrink session
because I feel you you know, no, you you've been
more vocal about this than I think you've ever been.

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
You know, you know what because because I because I
don't want to talk about this shit no more like
after I've got off my chest. And that's fine, like
you know, even when I was the New York Times,
like that would pretty for me. The only time I
got off my chest because I don't want to. I
don't want to put light on solo and all like
like he doesn't deserve any shine coming out of my

(01:13:57):
mouth because he's not. He'll never be on my level.
No one should be allowing him to do interviews. Its
like I'll say this, I'm to you right now. I'll
never let the source interviewing for anything anymore because they
just didn't interview with him. I thought him excusing mere
stealing all this music for the album, And it's like,

(01:14:19):
why do y'all think this guy even interviews like that
means you're I'm going against the culture. You know what
I'm saying. This is irrelevant to me. This is going
against the culture because y'all don't this guy have a
fraud and you're fucking interview this you won't send up
somewhere else, you know what I'm saying. Like it's like,
don't let these guys do interviews with when when you

(01:14:43):
say you represent the culture, otherwise you're doing it for
click bad and cloud. Oh we got a response from man,
It's like, I don't if he wants to respond to them,
find it all the way, but don't put these these
pumplications allow him to be valuing our culture like that.
That's it's far. It's not cool Pitchfork. I had say
anything Pitchfork out on a guy review our album and

(01:15:07):
he's like, oh that main sounds like an old man
sit to them kids to get off his arm. And
he's just saying all the stuff sound about Guru and
I'm just like yeah, and he gave it a six
point three out of ten. I wasn't even worried about
the rating. It was more of the way he roved
and dashed, like you know the album. I just after

(01:15:27):
the song afters hollow and there's nothing there, And again
I thought, mind is not liking it, but you're writing
it like you just can't stand us, and I'm not.
I'm not buying that.

Speaker 10 (01:15:40):
So you know, let those type of guys speak.

Speaker 4 (01:15:42):
On us and throw shitty dares, not fucking with you.

Speaker 12 (01:15:46):
I think everything goes out the window after he fucked
with Guru's nephew at the hospital, so like after that point,
it's so fucking dirty with him and his wife.

Speaker 6 (01:15:57):
That is just it's impossible to even bring the guy in.

Speaker 9 (01:16:00):
So many people ten years ago, maybe a little more,
when Guru is doing a lot of interviews, making making
the rounds for a bald bald head slick and and
one of the stipulations.

Speaker 8 (01:16:14):
I know, I wasn't it was Jasmin Taz was seven.
I was actually one of the last people to interview
Guru and Solar.

Speaker 9 (01:16:21):
Yeah, so I was kind of maybe a little before that. Yeah,
there was a stipulation that he had to be in
an interview.

Speaker 8 (01:16:28):
It had to be with Solar, and there was no
discussion of gang Star and and or Premiere. Of course
I mentioned I.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
Mentioned Premier and oh my god that Solar went on.

Speaker 8 (01:16:40):
Look, let's just wrap it up because I don't want
to keep talking about Solarcas. To me, he's not worth it,
and this is your moment, this is your moment. And
and he's envious. He's always been envious of what you
guys are. He can't emulate what you do, and he
can always chit chat. And there's others. I by the way,
we're not naive. We've seen what went on with for
Rah and Crumb snatched. There's always going to be people

(01:17:02):
out there talking.

Speaker 4 (01:17:04):
Even that caught me, all god, I'm like, I feel,
what are you doing? You you're a boy. It's like,
we're cool. We got no beabling, got no problems with
the other. He was never gangst on Basic.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
I never heard That's what I was doing. I was saying.

Speaker 4 (01:17:19):
And he's never been on a Gangster.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
However, he's never been on album.

Speaker 4 (01:17:23):
But we've been on his We've done on three of
his albums. It's like damn after always contributed. We didn't charge,
no money nothing. Yeah, yeah, you're mad because you're not
on the album. Like like, well, I can't believe everybody
in their forties and fifties complaining when the prior of
that album dropping, no one was reaching out to us
and checking on us at all, No, none of them.

(01:17:46):
You know what I'm saying. I heard about the Crumb
joint today and uh so it's here, say until I
check it out myself. But that's what you know. And
Crumb is he's what, He's an extent and an extension.
Gainst Our Foundation is Jamie Gallager, Big should and group on.

(01:18:06):
That's it, you know what I'm saying. Anything outside of
that our extension of the gainst Our lineage, you know
for Bumpy Knuncles and what pe. They all have their
own team as well. You know, it won't be his
first family, you know, but we still call them Gangsto Foundation,
but you know, and you know in the connection and

(01:18:27):
the man, they can ride that flag and figure it
up as well because we welcome them to do it.
Even Crumb can do it. It is cool, but uh
we never from what I heard again, you know that
he he he said, Uh, from what I heard from
the guy that told me today, he said he said,

(01:18:47):
you know he was suning and uh, he's front of
the man. Saw and disappointment a little like we never said,
you've cut off everything and they're done. You know what
I'm saying. You know, we don't bucket to anymore, none
of us where you said there before? You know what
I'm saying. So what is there? What everybody else said about?

(01:19:08):
It's like, what the hell is going on? And due
to the years I have been taking care of the grouse,
some I was opposed to making sure his money is
not in some of our hands, which he was stealing money.
We got that fixed in court. And because supposed to
go to his son, his son be running bead and

(01:19:29):
the throw. And that's what all I did was pep
in because I do all the proper information. Should also
did the proper information because Shank was on the journey
against our way before I joined, so should it was helpful.
I was helpful in court because you know, again we
lift such a long ride. I think none of these

(01:19:51):
people were part of repairing the situation. When he died,
I was like, what's a fucking deal? You know? What
I'm saying, and I I'm not mad at one of
them when when I started, I see joint one of
the guy cool, you know, like I'm not gonna lead
on social media and going back and forth many kids.
You know what I'm saying. I'm a fifty three other

(01:20:13):
man that knows the other des on social media about
anybody but you and all that. When I see his
arm that ship they're they're showing the trailer how they
feel fine, I mean, you know, I would still be
the regular, same old guy and whatever issue they got,
that's that's all. Don't have a bis with himself, had

(01:20:35):
nothing to do with me or go and again audition
is to make sure his family off the proceeds, like
Wolf said, and that's what that's what I didn't had
any of them. Rea stopped. We got for me and
right and man, we want to make sure so I
got a little paper or you would take him out

(01:20:55):
to dinner and make sure. You know, he being mentored
by stropping man, that that that's gonna raised him to
be a man. And he, Bob was raised the box,
so you know, and I'm like, yeah, and he will
with me. He's been hands on all the time. That's
why I love him. The groom's nephew Justine all if
so I said that he was lying about him is

(01:21:16):
not alive. He was talking true and his brother Dinzel.
I love him especially because he condiced me to go
to the hospital. Wasn't sing and I didn't want to go,
and he was like, you got to go. I don't
care if nobody else he gets to go. Even if
everybody goes, you gotta sing him. And I was like,
all right, I'll think about it, goes, no, you go,

(01:21:39):
you find a way, and he said it like that.
I was like, tired, I'm going Monday. It was like
it was like a Friday or Saturday. I bet I
got him on Monday. And then I went and you
know so and I and I wanted to attack to
get in there after else the interviews, but I got
in there and and and I got that closer. So
the next thing that my mom wasn't pad man. I

(01:22:01):
know he sit on music, so proud because that dude
records a lot. You know what I'm saying. I know gooles,
it will work at it. So I was like, if
I could find a way to get my hands on
my shit, man, I know I could do another album again.
Seven years later from still thinking that way, I finally
got you know, so I've been there. You know. That's

(01:22:21):
why I speak well other night. I don't know why
everybody upseting them out on the album and stuff like
this is about whom putting an album together, and then
I'm proud of that. I knew who to call it
based off with the words ship to see when I
heard the live They have to speak to me, you
know what I'm saying, what you spokes to me. I'm like,

(01:22:42):
this person will fit on here, this person even on
lights out. I don't like when ghool yeah like that,
but shot the aga who actually wrote that hook to
the original Agla wrote that wrote that hook and the sound.

Speaker 5 (01:22:59):
And I'm taking them the boy and Slick He'll kid
records me and my whole clique. You know what I'm saying,
Come from the bottom underground straight on up to the top.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
Put myself.

Speaker 15 (01:23:12):
I told y'all this is the one I owe y'all
when you're shitty like you know, I know, y'all, no
one but ba lah.

Speaker 6 (01:23:19):
God hold y'all aage.

Speaker 15 (01:23:20):
Motherfuckers can't even hand and what I know, y'all myself.
I told y'all, this is the one I owe, y'all
when you're shitty like you know, I know, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
No one lah hold y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Motherfuckers can't even.

Speaker 15 (01:23:32):
Handle what I know, y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:23:34):
No, my god, law and Good did original. And when
I heard it, I'm like, yeah, that's the original way
when I wanted from doo, there was nothing. There was
just good wants to complete. I don't know what the
original source was, right because I've never heard a song
about life, so it was gonna two thousand, even know

(01:23:57):
about two I can while here, you know, and we
don't keep out in too how did he have it?

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
Due to the sensitive subject matter, at request of DJ Premiere,
we cannot air parts of this exclusive interview. However, we
will air the interview.

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
In its entirety very soon.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
And on that note, let's get back to the program.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
Oh wow, Okay, yeah, I did he tell me he
was ruin? Then I just didn't hear him.

Speaker 4 (01:24:24):
Okay, But I'm saying I have my demarket to and
let's see what happened, and you know, to to this, uh,
the end of the garbage ship going on and then, uh,

(01:24:47):
I think it will even be more special then because
you will have you know what I'm saying, because I'm
not gonna talk about it anymore. You know, y'all about weekend?
Uh to go out there and I'm just a dancing around,
but I can't. I wouldn't go there because it put

(01:25:08):
out there in New York Times was the most out
there and the Roman Stone was very accurate as well.
And then everything else was what you saw me say
on Negro and and highlinety seven and and happened and
Husa and uh pretty much. I'm I'm drawing back from
anything else regarding that guy. But uh so, but that

(01:25:31):
what I just told you, I've told you no one. Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
Yeah, well we will keep it in the vault until
you say run with it.

Speaker 6 (01:25:40):
And all I got to say is you should play
the bitches right now loud.

Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
This is where I'm at, absolutely absolutely, and and uh
but yeah, man, it was just crazy all this stuff.
I'm discovering it. And again, like I said, we just discovered.
Now That's why I'm like, okay's just gone to nail
and you know, like I'm I'm already in a plant
and I was in the world and he's a shark.

(01:26:11):
And uh again, I think Google is Lily your son.
He's like, that's can you cruise to this? Dude's nonsense,
you know what I'm saying. And I'm like, yeah, I agree.
I think Google is helping us close this whole shit death.

Speaker 8 (01:26:27):
Well, I will say this in ending. The album is fantastic.
It is necessary. It feels good.

Speaker 15 (01:26:34):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:26:34):
I got to think he's he's smiling down. He feels good.
You you not only created the exact album that we
need in twenty nineteen, but the exact gangs are closure
we all needed to hear.

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
And uh so, thank you for that.

Speaker 8 (01:26:49):
And it's very very admirable what you're doing with Casey.
I think it's so cool how you're incorporating you and everything.

Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
Did they do a good job? Video good, really good.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
It gave good, good feelings the whole I was smiling
the whole time I'm watching it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
I had chills.

Speaker 4 (01:27:05):
Man, it was his hair and in Chicago at the
barber shop and and Spice Avathe was doing.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
How everybody loves him.

Speaker 12 (01:27:16):
Just a dedication on all levels. I mean, everyone was
all in from the beginning because this is the type
of thing that we need.

Speaker 6 (01:27:23):
This is what's missing.

Speaker 4 (01:27:24):
Yeah, and now I'm I'm gonna I still we still
have like five more videos to shoot, so I'm gonna
make sure all of them really creative. I've always been
a creative person and uh, I've always been a music
video so that's why I was hands on with co
directed my man Drew Morris. Drew Morris did all the

(01:27:44):
basement balls with playing Robin played bass, and then Rober
had Cross of Artist rap and then uh he tried
a video with Miguel that I did, talk Loving You,
and he did. My crew caught Cherub that I did,
and uh so, but this one for Drew, he was like, Yo,
this one is very heavy on my head to make

(01:28:07):
sure it comes out right. And I described everything to him.
I said, this got do this guy shooting like this,
shoot like that. So I said, you know it's going
to come out right in the bed and we did it.
You know. He asked what the cover was like. I said,
it's kind of damn ship that like dam And then
when I saw M Hotel, I said, yo, man just

(01:28:27):
put a gang starf shirt on m Hotel. You know
what I'm saying. And there's an almost shirt that got
the airbrush for Guru back in ninety two, and I
gave it to my assistant Jeff and keeping it and
they when we were shooting, they said, can we bring
some vented stuff like floppy gears pictures and we parted.

(01:28:49):
Ashes you see was asking at the very end of
the video that blue thing, that's who's Ashes fresh? Now?

Speaker 6 (01:28:58):
I was going to say, what's what's going to be
the next single off the album?

Speaker 4 (01:29:01):
We said definitely either from a distance, yes, even the
moment Nitty and Neo, because Nitty didn't thing, Neo did
his thing.

Speaker 6 (01:29:10):
That's what we were saying earlier. Nitty Nitty reminds me
of like Shorty from Daylight. She comes correct, dude comes correct.

Speaker 4 (01:29:18):
Yeah, yeah, so we're talking about doing that when we're
talking about doing what's real?

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
There you go those two from the distance, what's.

Speaker 4 (01:29:28):
It takes light? You know what I'm saying? And we
got we got different remixes that we're going to come
up with a buck. I'm waiting to pursue him. Sees
to finish body in the Bad Name joint, so I
can put that out like another week or two, So
hopefully that will happen. If it doesn't. It doesn't, but

(01:29:48):
uh it should uh drop that.

Speaker 6 (01:29:53):
I won't lie. I do mix in a little bon Jovi.

Speaker 12 (01:29:56):
Uh you give love a bad name over over that
part in this particular episode, and it's fucking fresh.

Speaker 4 (01:30:03):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
Hey, by the way, the Big Sugar, the new Big
Sugar is dope to that's dope.

Speaker 4 (01:30:09):
Oh thanks man. I love the ms man a.

Speaker 8 (01:30:13):
More importantly, are you still taking that green Juice ship?
Last time you were on the show, You're heavy.

Speaker 6 (01:30:18):
Into the diet.

Speaker 4 (01:30:20):
What are you? Fell and got really flat and now.

Speaker 6 (01:30:28):
I didn't want to say it, but it was like,
I know you're still doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:32):
You were very very committed to that.

Speaker 4 (01:30:34):
You were yeah, yeah, yeah. When we actually just started
training begin about a week ago, I've got so I
haven't gotten to gym so long. And so my fifth
day back at it, you know, with with the with
the guy one of my longtime friends who in one
of the best ship almost sixty years old. He's we

(01:30:55):
have six packs and everything, and he's been on my ass.
So I've changed my diet in and uh this time
we're getting ready for this for the show up early
because they like put our way during the winter. Come
up with heavy plows and then everybody starts back right
around the ind of football season. So I'm like, no,
We're going to guard and start get decided so that

(01:31:16):
i can shake off a lot of ladies. I'm put
on my downs and I'm like, I'm going to get
it off and do it now. So I'm on my
fifth day. We went today, played with my face player.
We even went today this morning, early in the morning
and give them six five in the morning and we
rock out. So, uh, you'll see me, You'll see me,
you know, just plate.

Speaker 8 (01:31:37):
Shortly you and Spice Adams we need to see doing
some workout videos together.

Speaker 4 (01:31:41):
Maybe.

Speaker 8 (01:31:45):
Well, look what I want to thank you again for
stopping by. This is the second time. I'm sure you
do so many interviews you don't remember everything, but you
are probably burnt out after doing your your your run
with this.

Speaker 4 (01:31:57):
So no, this is what I found out for it,
and the fact that we signed up for this is
a profession. I treated as a profession, and part of
it to do the interviews. My main thing is just
being killing how I talk about him, because I don't
like him to have the upper hand on how we
bold because he's not that savvy and he's not that
street even though he claims to be, you know what

(01:32:20):
I'm saying. So with that in mind, she'll never be
able to top my moods ever so so you know,
because he's he's too loud. You're loud and just boyshous
like that, you'll never ever ever top my moves, you know. So.
And then I got grued and my soul to make

(01:32:40):
sure I fix what was fucked up before he passed.
So that's what I mean to do. And I'm making
share again. I'm making sure his family is even comfortably
of his money and they're all doing well, man, because
that's what our hearted. His heart is not there that
part you need to put out there, I don't care,
but that's car is so again, I've been with quality

(01:33:07):
for real. That's what was a lie and the good
fan of college just like come on, I mean, you know,
to put out all this to get soon and shut
down for steeling, like come on, and I stole a
pack of tombs. I'm just drinking all about the whiskey

(01:33:30):
one night with if you want to call me a
beef apology that.

Speaker 3 (01:33:37):
You're doing good things. You're good man, people like I
know everybody knows.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
Everybody knows it.

Speaker 8 (01:33:42):
Really you could tell it's gotten to you. And and
the fact that he's come out. Let's just put all
that aside. You're doing great things, like I said, and
so admirable what you're doing with Casey. You have a
great team behind you, Ian Jeff, and and the love
that this album is getting seeing it in Times Square,
are are all the He's billboards like worldwide.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
It's great.

Speaker 4 (01:34:03):
Google des earned that years ago. How he's getting it.
I'm so happy that I'm happy for him. I'm not
worried about me. I always have so I just want
to make sure my child right. I love just seeing
it's awful Google and the family and the fan you
know again, me I got contemplating the plans. I got money,

(01:34:26):
you know, the Blue family has money. It's like you know,
and now the shine is giving a tom friend Amazon
posted everything I posted on Unit. That is just one
incredible feeling that I cannot describe.

Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
It's a tribu.

Speaker 3 (01:34:49):
He's proud, you got you.

Speaker 8 (01:34:51):
Everybody who grew up listening to you, I want to
make you sound too old grew up listening to you.

Speaker 3 (01:34:55):
But everyone who who who love your kid, you know
I'm actually.

Speaker 6 (01:35:01):
Not a kid, but age they call me uncle Dre here.
I'm like the fucking old old sire of the group here,
so I get it.

Speaker 8 (01:35:09):
But again it was it was great. You're doing great things.
We don't need to talk about the other guy. Karla
will take care of him. And if Karma doesn't take
care of him, I would love for maybe Freddie Fox
and do what he did to Benzeno on the Flavor
Unit bus uh uh to to solar one day, so
eventually it will catch up to him it did to

(01:35:30):
a stringer Bell. But listen, premiere, I can't thank you enough.
I thank you as a hip hop fan, thank you
as uh as just a good person and and really
doing You're kind of like the uncle who looks after
his brother's son when he passes.

Speaker 4 (01:35:46):
And that's what you guys are doing. And you know, man,
all of us know families. My father and his father,
the goose father godless all of this soul past, and
his mom pass as well. But uh, there are the
their fraternity brothers that won't make it out for our fraternities.
But my mother with teachers. My mother taught me in

(01:36:07):
high school and in junior igh art that's where my
right side and my time comes home from her. And
then I time that we don't even know that this
guy's parents and school. You know, he had claims he
was from bad twenty years now he's from Bush was
nowice from all of them, like we have no stripes

(01:36:28):
and and that's the thing, the rap ship everybody was
from me front and you know, and even when I
mentioned when he's making sometimes certain certain people like, well
who is it? You know what I'm saying, I've never
heard of. So I just don't know. We don't know
anything about him except his government day. And I don't
know who his mom and daddy is. But boy, i'd

(01:36:52):
love to see what they look like. I kind of
what they look like.

Speaker 12 (01:36:56):
Yeah, anyway, at the end of the day, we appreciated always.
The listener is gonna love these stories and uh and
the exclusive content we have.

Speaker 4 (01:37:09):
You know, we just I guarantee you. I guarantee you
when everything really hits the same, that's gonna come in
handy to play that because you got the like I said,
you got the pre warning my discoveries before we got
to the corner. Finally just ended up this nonsense.

Speaker 6 (01:37:29):
Yeah, Hey man, I appreciate all you do. Jesus dude,
I just want to hang out with you.

Speaker 3 (01:37:38):
But you know, at the end of the day, us man,
we're in We're in Boca, which is so.

Speaker 12 (01:37:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:37:50):
Well, well, if you ever come to Miami, will take
you out for a nice t bone steak and and
uh yeah some green juice.

Speaker 4 (01:38:03):
Oh yeah yeah. If I don't come to Miami, same thing,
you know. I was there was that took my son
there for a New Years and I spent five days
out there and then tired of that, I did Drake Champs.
But uh yeah, if you either way, you give us
a head up. And if I'm around, which as usually.

Speaker 6 (01:38:23):
Start to do it, do it and uh all the
best man, man, premuch. I just appreciate you on every level.

Speaker 4 (01:38:30):
So uh appreciate thanks for respecting uh the little exer
because I've told no one kid, but uh, I said,
I was going so far with it, like yeah, I
have it, and this is when the right time is right.
Do what you want.

Speaker 8 (01:38:47):
The rest of the well, we appreciate it and we'll
obviously respect it. And can I say this brought the
record you have nothing to like. You don't even need
to let that dude, bother.

Speaker 4 (01:38:58):
You, it's going to get to where he gets fully exposed.
And he've been getting those already.

Speaker 3 (01:39:03):
All over for years, he's been exposed.

Speaker 4 (01:39:05):
But yeah, but finally like the like finally like over
over that, think that that's coming and when that happens,
naturally fire off that piece then of what I what
I found out and last he's told me that, thank God,
telling me the same thing. I'm like, what, And then
how do you account for stuff that when you want

(01:39:27):
around us from ninety nine, two thousand, two thousand and one,
you can't account for those?

Speaker 6 (01:39:33):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 4 (01:39:34):
I just to get those if you can know us
and how to get them. Yeah, there's so many things,
you know, Like I said, we're already been just completely
taking out. We're just going to keep keep paying serve
and do all the stuff and please and saying do
an interview with them out job. Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:39:55):
Hey, I'm going to ask you a quick question that's
none of the people at the round table are gonna
understand by you and I, But uh, what is the
best plug?

Speaker 6 (01:40:03):
And you've been using for me it's been isotope lately
for you? What's what's best.

Speaker 4 (01:40:09):
You're talking about the Yeah, I have used you because
I mean I have something I like the music still
in the sample say when you scratch it like that
to where you know what's coming from. But everybody likes
to talk about right now. But I have a program,
but I'm not talking.

Speaker 6 (01:40:29):
To what you're using. Telling you all right, what's what's
your favorite plug in?

Speaker 4 (01:40:38):
I'm not gonna tell you that either.

Speaker 6 (01:40:40):
Fucking crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:40:43):
Hey, sorry about the astros you know that must have?

Speaker 4 (01:40:49):
Yeah, thank you, thank you? Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:40:53):
And what college team you support in these days? Football?

Speaker 4 (01:40:56):
College football? I mean, you know, everybody always Ohio State,
CLO and all stuff, all you know, all brands and
all that. But I'm swack man, so I'm still they
don't have a record. I'm still going to swat conference.

Speaker 1 (01:41:20):
Sticking to it.

Speaker 4 (01:41:23):
I watched but even though I watched all n c
A and all that stuff, I watch all so but
I don't have any any none of them like my teams.
You know what this year they got what.

Speaker 6 (01:41:39):
Crazy? Uh we'll see I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:41:44):
That good.

Speaker 6 (01:41:45):
He's a special dude.

Speaker 12 (01:41:46):
Man brings in a little bit of religion. Those guys
got faith. It's his next level. Anyway, I'd love to
have you for a college game one but one day. Brother,
But anyway, that took just a man just.

Speaker 4 (01:42:02):
Told him down just the case, and so collided. Uh.
His son just got a full round at the University
of Miami.

Speaker 6 (01:42:10):
So you're gonna be down here, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:42:14):
All the time.

Speaker 4 (01:42:15):
I'm gonna coming down. We have to pick and then
and the show son got a full rout to have
University of Football. The two of the my family member
got four right sons playing football schools all.

Speaker 6 (01:42:29):
The best, man, I appreciate everything, Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:42:33):
Thank you children.

Speaker 4 (01:43:06):
Yo, what's up? You all premiere? Take your personal radio
and what you're here and right now you've got to
get real personal and you haven't even listening up because
that's how deep about to go. All right, chill

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