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April 24, 2024 48 mins

Amanda welcomes Megen Mundy, a seasoned herbalist, and proud owner of Austin’s oldest apothecary shop, The Herb Bar, to the show today! Megen shares her profound insights in the world of herbal medicine demystifying its ancient wisdom and empowering listeners to connect with their bodies on a deeper level.

Megen shares her personal journey having explored various SSRI medications and anti-anxiety treatments and feeling disconnected to her body while living in a “fight or flight” state. Feeling drawn to holistic alternatives to combat her anxiety and depression without side effects, Megen discovered that plant medicine provided a unique bridge between mind, body, and spirit. 

Our bodies are telling us that the work, grind, hustle mentality isn’t working and people are seeking alternate ways to live their lives. There is a curiosity in thinking about what your life could be like versus just following what society has said is the golden standard of happiness. 

 

Ask yourself: 

  • What do I want my life to look like? 
  • Is this lifestyle really working?
  • Can I move into something more aligned that makes me happier? 
  • Do I want to work this much? Do I want to go into an office every day? 
  • Is this food really nourishing my body? 
  • What boundaries do I want in my life? 

 

By tuning in to our bodies and intuition, we raise our frequency and consciousness. The relentless pursuit of “getting it all done” loses its grip as we learn to take life one step at a time.

 

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Hi everyone, It's Amanda Riga Green. Welcome to Soul Sessions today.
I have a special guest joining me. Her name is
Megan Mundy and she is the owner of the herb Bar,
Austin's oldest apothecary. But she's not only the owner of
the herb Bar. She is an herbalist herself, and her

(00:30):
journey began through self exploration and her own personal spiritual
mental health journey, of course, the route that so many
of us have taken with mental health and being on
SSRIs and different types of prescription medications. Having that awakening
and awareness where we sometimes many of us began to

(00:53):
open up to more holistic ways of healing and plant medicine,
and that journey really kicked off I think her avocation
which she is an herbalist. She studied under matthew Wood
at the Herbal Institute and Ginger Web per Holistic Nutrition.
She's also studied through Cornell's Program of Holistic Nutrition. She

(01:19):
can tell you more about this, but without further ado.
Welcome Megan, Oh, thank you so much for having me.
I want to start at the beginning with what you
and I were discussing before we started recording and it's
having personal and mental health challenges and the first thing
that we are taught or we go to our prescription remedies,

(01:42):
which I am an advocate for when they are needed.
There's a time and a place. But I have been
able to really find herbalism and herbal remedies to be
actually so much more healing from a mind, body, spirit perspective,
and then also healthier.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
For my body.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
So will you talk a lot little bit about your
personal journey and how that led you into integrative medicine
and herbalism.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Absolutely, yeah, I desfolutely did not grow up around herbal medicine.
I grew up in the suburbs. I grew up eating
you know, fast food. I spent a lot of time
alone in my reading, I honestly didn't spend a lot
of time outdoors book My parents are kind of nerdy
book people, but not really outdoor people. And coincidentally, I

(02:30):
grew up to be a rather anxious child, and growing
up I've been on just about every kind of SSRI
anti anxiety medicine that you can think of. And you know, again,
like you said, I never want to say I'm against
medication because there are.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Times in place where it. There's no judgment for that.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
But for me, it just there wasn't really any plan
for me to like, Okay, you're going to take this
and then eventually you'll be off that. It was just like,
take these for the rest of your life to feel normal,
and they had a lot of side effects, you know ours.
So I would say kind of in my mid to
late twenties, I sort of started looking for alternatives to

(03:12):
kind of help combat some of my symptoms and my
anxiety and depression, but do it in ways that were
more natural and holistic and didn't have as many of
those side effects. And you know, for a long time,
I feel like I did a lot of researching on
my own and reading. But to be honest, I was
a little bit intimidated, you know, because I didn't grow

(03:33):
up with these things. I didn't really start studying them
until I was, you know, in twenty five, twenty six,
and you know, I think for a long time I
just kind of told myself like, oh, that's for other people,
you know, like the riches and the woods and things
like that. And then I had a really good friend
of mine who took me to dinner and was like, listen,
this is what you're really interested in. You're always suggesting

(03:56):
think me, You're always tinkering and making like thinking Sure.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
She was like, why don't you.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Actually like go to school, And I kind of thought
about it, and then like next week she had bought
me a Godling course just to kind of get the
ball rolling. And I'm so appreciative of that. Even that
first Allline class light took.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
It really kind.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Of gave me the confidence to really say like, hey,
this is something that I'm really interested in, and I
do want to share this with other people. So then
I kind of began my process and started studying herbal medicine,
you know, like I said, you mapping would, and then
I did in house here with did your web at
Sacred Journey School of Herbalism.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
But I think for me.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
A lot of the process has been really helpful in
connecting to my body. That's something that I think I've
really always struggled with is like disconnection, disassociation, things like that,
especially when you kind of live in like a fight
or flight, you become very disconnected from your body. Of course,

(05:00):
when we're doing like Western medicine, where you just go
to the doctor you tell them what's wrong.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
You don't even know what.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Pill you're taking, and they just send you on your way.
You know, with herbal medicine. With plants, there's just so
much more of a connection, right, You're like learning about
the plant you're drink, if you're drinking it as tea,
you're smelling it, you're tasting it. There's like that visceral reaction.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
And then I started growing no.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Plant, right, I would forage the plants. I would grow that,
I would nursure them myself. So even then deepening like
connection with the plants and with nature and how we're
all sort of connected. So that's really what I started
to kind of have all of the pieces connect for me,
was that the more I would say, the more hands

(05:43):
on approach that I thought with like you know, going
out on walks and like being like, oh, you know
that's cleavers, or like you know, making a soup with
chick weed, you know, so like just using the plant
in different ways and like forming a bigger relationship to it.
I think that's really when the medicine became more potent

(06:04):
for me, is when I really like understood where the
medicine and what I was using came from.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
And first of all becoming approachable.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Like you said, initially, you were intimidated, and I think
a lot of people feel that way. I've felt that
way before in herbalism or plant medicine, and it's certainly
not my wheelhouse and area of expertise. However, whenever I
set intentions and become open to it, the teacher appears
or the apothecary appears, and I walk in and there's

(06:37):
someone that guides me to it, and you and I
are connected. And she's going to be at the Austin,
Texas event on May seventh, and she's going to have
all sorts of teas and tinctures and things that will
relate to what we're doing at the event that will
really help open up and accelerate your journey and your

(06:57):
awareness of how plant medicine and herbalism can it enhance
and really add value to your experience. But I went
into the herb bar and I hadn't been in in
years since we lived in Belize, and we connected, and
then all of a sudden, the puzzle pieces came together
and realized that we have a mutual, very dear friend

(07:18):
who is connected in the plant world, and it is
his magic and his medicine and his calling, but both
of us share this, dear friend, And when I came
into the herb Bar, we were talking about the event,
and what I love is you were leading me and
guiding me to things on the shelves in the herb
bar that we could use at the event, and you

(07:40):
intuitively knew what I was really wanting to bring forth
for this event and support the group that will be
there and having plant medicine, and we just had this
synergistic knowing. And then I felt safe enough to tell
you what was going on in my life and some
grief and loss, and we'll share lie little bit about
that later, but I'm sharing that with everyone so you know,

(08:05):
if you are totally new to erbalism and utilizing plant medicine,
don't be intimidated. And even if you don't live in Austin, Texas,
there may be an apothecary near you. I encourage you
to seek that out or seek out local herbalist in
your area. If not the Herb Bar in Austin, Texas,

(08:28):
they've got an online presence and you can get started there.
But it's one thing at a time, and I've found
for me and you really are knowledgeable in this area.
But I am driven and I want to get it
all done and get it done yesterday. That is the
unnatural nature that I am unlearning is let me get

(08:49):
it all done, and let me get it done yesterday.
So my natural nature is give me every single tincture
in the place.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
So I can do it all next week.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
And I have learned to say, here's what's going on
with me, here is the thing that is most present
and pressing, what do I need now? And do one
or two things at a time. And that's been what's
so effective for me, because one I don't get overwhelmed
in trying to heal ten different things going on in

(09:21):
my life and my psychology and my spiritual journey. I say,
this is the thing that's really creating the most turmoil,
or if it's physical pain, you know, here is the
physical symptom I have going on. Let's work on this
healing because it'll usually bring about a spiritual healing. So
one or two things at a time has also given

(09:43):
me the intuition to recognize the value in working with
plant medicine.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yes, and I.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Love what you said about not being intimidated. That's Honestly,
one of the biggest things that I really tried to
we ate with the herb arm you know. As I mentioned,
I was intuidated by it when I first began. And
it's so interesting because.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Every single one of us had.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
This knowledge in our lineage, right, Like we're so accustomed
to Western medicine and adoptors, but like everybody's great great
great great grandmother, no matter what culture you were in,
has some form of herbal medicine, some form of like
magic that they use in the kitchen or you know,
things like that.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
So it's wisdom that's in our DNA.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
It's just kind of reintroducing yourself to that. And I say,
creating safe spaces where people feel comfortable coming in and
asking questions or you know, dipping their toe into something
that feels overwheling, because it is there's like a million
different herbs, you know, And that's really what we try
to do at the shop, because that's what the shop

(10:54):
was for me before I even owned it, right. I
used to live in the neighborhood and I would come
and spend all my money and I would ask the
staff like, hey, you know, what do you think about
this herb and how does this interact? And I would
just learn that and much like you said, like an
herb or two at a time. And I always like
to suggest that to people anyway, because it's like, you know,

(11:16):
I noticed whenever I teach, like, you know, herbalism one
oh one class, there's there's something people.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Get so excited.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
They want to try everything, they want to make all
the formulas all at once, and you know, that's fun.
But I really like people to get to know an
herb singularly on its own, because that's really going to
give you an opportunity to get to know that ins
and outs and all of it can offer for you.
And if you're kind of combining a bunch of different

(11:42):
things all at once, you're really not going to know
like the singularity of like what that herb.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Can offer you. Kind of like what we were talking
about the melosa, right.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
You really want to get to the root of the
issue because so many symptoms are all compiled for, like,
you know, one thing, and so so much of it
is grief and so much of it is nervous system regulation.
And then a lot of the time I see like
physical pain coming from one of those two things, right.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
And it's crapy.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
When I started studying herbs, I realized how many herbs
and plants that were medicinal that were just around me
that I had absolutely no concept of. So I think
that's that's the fun discovery.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Absolutely and I know that that's been my experience. Is
when I focus on what is going on now and
I ask for the help the teacher, and the medicine appears.
And you know this, a lot of times wherever we
are locally, plants or weeds that pop up in our

(12:45):
yard seemingly randomly or showing up as medicine or guides
for us. I know that friends in the herbal community
will say, well, this popped up in my yard, and
sure enough, this is what it's known for healing, and
that's what's going on, and I didn't even realize it.
So there is this sacred nature to what goes on

(13:05):
in herbalism. And the more just like when I talk
about numerology or astrology and signs and synchronicities and spirit animals,
any of those things, when you look for them, they appear,
and they appear more prolifically and abundantly. And what Megan
was alluding to, so when I went into the herb
Bar a few weeks ago. It was just after I

(13:26):
had lost my Labrador text literally the day after, so
I was kind of raw and exhausted, and I had
gotten into Austin. I knew I was going to go
to the herb Bar, and I thought, well, you know,
I'm just going to tell Megan what is going on.
I've just lost texts and I've been through a massive
season of two years of loss, and he's kind of like,

(13:47):
hopefully the last passage, the last rite of passage, and
it felt very different, but I also just felt exhausted,
and I said, Megan, this is immense grief. What do
you recommend? And you went straight to Mimosa and said,
I'm really excited for you to try this. It's heart opening,
it's soothing. You gave me a handful of qualities, and

(14:10):
right after I got in the car, I opened it up,
took a few droppers, and within really within about an hour,
it was almost like a warm elixir, like a warm bath.
And it's not like I was just zoned out in
a warm bath. But throughout the evening in the afternoon,
I started to feel a sense of my sadness and

(14:34):
my loss and the grief that was coming up. But
it was like a gentle healing salve or bath. And
what is very strange is over the course of the evening,
and this was just after taking a few droppers and
being excited to introduce that medicine and knowing that it

(14:54):
was going to provide whatever I needed, there was even
a little bit of exc static release or happiness. And
I left that evening and I just want to share
this with you. And I had a women's meeting that
evening in Wimberley, so i'd driven back to Wimberley. The
weather was beautiful and I felt really a sense of
peace in driving. And then when I got into that community,

(15:17):
and you know, anyone out there who's going through grief,
it's sometimes really hard to be around people when you
were like an active bereavement in the midst of it.
It had, you know, really just been twenty four hours.
But I knew I was committed to this women's thing
and I was going to go. But I felt so

(15:37):
much love from that experience. I had a woman come
up to me who's a long term friend of mine,
and she just came up and put her hand on
my shoulder and said, hey, how are you? I just
she knew about what had happened with text, how are you?
I just wanted to check on you. And I said,
thank you for asking, I'm really okay, and she walked away,

(15:59):
and I I thought to myself, Wow, I am loved.
People love and appreciate me, and so the reason. And
I'm getting emotional even as I'm saying it, because not
only was there this gentle opening, I also could receive
support and recognition in a very respectful and holistic way.

(16:25):
So it wasn't just about my heart opening. It was
about a receiving while I was grieving, and that to
me felt amazing. And I shared with this with you
and I want to share it with everyone. Megan gave
me this sweet Mimosa tincture and I used it. It
took me three weeks.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
I used it.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
I used a few droppers a couple times a day,
and I just I felt the grief. It was there
and present and heavy, but it was also moving and
fluid and very much through my heart center.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah. That means the world to me because I have
also used mimosa in that way, and I love that
we keep talking about it as like.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
Gentle, because you know, there's a lot of other.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Things and sometimes when they're too powerful, it almost kind
of like doesn't allow you to really do the work
that's necessary to move through grief. Right, So you're still
feeling it, you're not numb to it, but it's like
these have stoppened you're able to really look at it differently.
And another thing that I love about Memosa, and kind

(17:30):
of speaking to what you said, the crazy thing about
grief that we forget is that it should be kind
of a wide range. It's not just sadness, because when
you're grieving a loss like your dog or a friend
or something like that, you're really supposed to move through
like the happy moment too, right, And I think when
you have the sporch of a plant that's gentle and loving,

(17:53):
especially something like Mimosa, you're able to feel those range
of happiness and sadness and the support of your friend
while still.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
Navigating their grief.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
But it's like you know, for me, sometimes when something
feels so heavy, I almost get stuck in like a
freeze where I'm not really able to move through it.
And that's what I love about Mimosa is you're still
able to do the work and go to your women's.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Group and do those things. But it's just softer. It's
just a holding space for your grief, is what the
BOTHA does.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
It's like a friend that's like, let me take some
of that on for you, you know. And so many
plants are are like that, and that's what I love
about it.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, thank you for sharing that, And that definitely was
my experience. I think right now we've had massive astrology happening.
We're in the midst of unprecedented times, some revolutionary astrology

(18:55):
that is really opening us up into the opportunity to
integrate higher consciousness. And there's a lot of chaos, confusion, anxiety,
things that are coming up that feel beyond control. And
I know that I get a lot of physical symptoms.
I can feel my neck tense up or my jaw,

(19:18):
so it'll be throat chakra related stuff, or I'll get
things in my bladder, you know, it'll be more root
and sacral chakra. And I know how to attribute those
things in my body. But for anyone out there who
is growing in their intuition expanding their consciousness, most people
are experiencing extreme inner turmoil or physical symptoms. Have you

(19:42):
been seeing that lately with people coming in the herb
bar or just clients in general.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Oh yeah, I mean, you know, Pluto hit Aquarius with
a bang, We're in a clip seat. Then we just
came out of airy season, so there's just a lot
of like kind of sprenetic energy in the air, you know.
I think we're just kind of collectively moving through that.
I think, you know, we're still kind of coming off

(20:09):
the trauma of like.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
Lockdown and all of the thing.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah, personally for me, I turned forty in September of
last year, and my transit our Pluto.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
And Saturn to have their foot on my neck right now.
So I just feel like a lot of people are
kind of going.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Through a transformational process right now, you know. And I
don't necessarily think that's a bad thing, right I think
we're good on that. But I just feel like, I
would say, definitely, since COVID and Lockdown, people are seeking
alternate ways to live their life.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
Just across the board, Like do I want to work
as much? Do I want to go into the office
as much?

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Do I really want to eat this food that makes
me feel bad about myself? Do I really want to
continue on not holding boundaries, you know what I mean.
I just think in general there is a curiosity onto
like what could my life be like versus what has
society told me that, you know, is the gold standard

(21:08):
of happiness. And I think herbalism and medicine and holistic
medicine is just like a small.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
Part of that.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
But I do see like the shift in more interest
of that which it speaks to a.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
Bigger idea of like is this really working?

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Can I move into something that's maybe more aligned and
makes me happier. I feel like a lot of us
are crumbling under society and capitalism and kind of that,
go go go. I was talking about this with my therapist,
how like everyone's always like, oh, everybody has ADHD now,
and it's like, yeah, we do, because our brains are

(21:47):
not able to work where for work grind, grind and griy.
You know, it's like our bodies are telling us like
this is not working. And I think it's exciting times
because I do think the shift and the change is coming.
But you know, when things change, there's always like a
little bit of like, ah, you know, fut on the

(22:07):
gap kind of an energy.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
So tell me, for people who are new who come
in and I know you will have the most amazing
library of teas and teas are such a great place
to start. And the herb Bar, by the way, has
beautiful mixtures and we have some that we will have
at the event on May seventh, and Megan is going

(22:31):
to showcase those some that we have handpicked and hand selected.
But talk a little bit about utilizing teas and even
what is your practice with teas.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
For me, my favorite way to take my medicine and
teat form and I think that's largely because I much
like yourself and just being a business owner, it's go, go,
go go, and making yourself a cup of tea is
a very very small way to add a little bit
of ritual and intention and slow down, even if it's
just for ten minutes out of the day. So when

(23:03):
we talk about traditional tea, it's black tea, it's green tea,
all of those yeah, great, those are fun.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
But herbal tea we actually call that to vain.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
If you want to be fancy and impress your friend,
you know, working with herbs and making a tea with
herves is such a great way to get to know
it because it's such a visceral experience, right, So you're
going to be looking at the tea like, what are
the colors involved, how does it smell, what does it
make me feel like? So it's a really good way

(23:31):
to get to know a plant and kind of how
it interacts with your body. And it's just a really
good way to kind of nourish yourself, right, Like we
all love like a warm bath, Like drinking a hot
cup of tea is so relaxing and nourishing to the spirit,
and it's such an easy thing to do. So you
really only need like a cheese spoon of dried herb

(23:54):
per one cup of water, so you don't need to
throw in all your tea, just a little bit per
one of water. You steep it for about fifteen twenty minutes.
For me, I sleeep it a little bit longer because
the longer you steep it, you're really going to be
breaking those cell wall down and really making a more.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
Potent cup of tea.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
I mean, obviously, before you're ingesting anything that you've never
jested or worked with before, you know, do a little research, right,
make sure it's not contraindicated with anything Like Saint John's
word is a great example of an herb that has
a lot of really wonderful benefits, but it's also kind
of contraindicated with some medication, So you know, like do

(24:33):
your research, make sure your medications are not contraindicated. But
the really is not a wrong way to.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
Make a cup of tea.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
It's fun to experiment and just be like, ooh, I
seep that a little too long, you know.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
Cammon Mill is a great example.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
I think many of us have had cammimil tea, but
I think a lot of us have realized that if
you steek cannonbil tea for too long, it's going to
be really bitter, right.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
It's going to be It is flavorful and delicious. So
I just like to encourage people to kind of make
it a.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Fun thing and sit down, spend ten to fifteen minutes
drinking the tea seeing how it makes you feel. And
once you kind of get to know that on a
different level, then you can sort of start to think like, hmm,
this tastes this way, and this makes me feel this way.
Wouldn't it be nice to pair it with this other herb,

(25:26):
you know? And that's where you can kind of experiment
with but I honestly think tea is one of my
favorite things to work with as far as plant medicine,
just because you do set an intention and a ritual
practice around it. And I think anytime you can create
a little ritual for yourself, it's like you learn deeper.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Absolutely, and it's that mind body connection, and it's the
cognition of the intention. Just like the sweet mimosa you recommended.
I trusted you and your knowledge and your wisdom, and
I said, here's what's going on, take me to the
plant medicine. And so I was already in a state

(26:07):
of expectancy versus expectation.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
You know.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
I wasn't like, well, the plant's going to do this
and I'm going to feel better tomorrow. So it's just
like getting energy work, you know. So many people will say,
well I went, I didn't feel anything, you know, And
anytime anytime I go into any kind of session, whether
it's an intuitive reading or energy work or the chiropractor.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
I go in with this state of I'm going to
meet the ideal person or the ideal guide, and they're
going to guide me to the crystal or the book
or the plant or the herb, you know, whatever it is,
and then I'm going to let it do its magic.
And sometimes it's subtle and other times it's louder, and
in my face, that is the journey, and I think

(26:55):
getting intentional that's also a gift for people to recognize
that as we shift in our awareness and we ask
these big questions like what could my life be like?
That can be a daunting question, but it's coming up
for so many of us. Is what is my meaning?
What is my evolving meaning? What is my life looking like?

(27:16):
How is it changing? And how do I become sovereign
in that process and being able to explore and know
it is a journey. I mean, I'm going to be
trite for a second, but it's like we get so
focused on the destination that we forget the journey. And
the plant medicine I think is stop and smell the roses.
This has come up frequently, you know, and look at

(27:38):
the flowers, look at the plants around you. And even
like you said, with the tea's, what I loved is,
apart from the relaxation and the ritual and the intention
around it, the colors because it's just like eating vibrant foods,
you know, vibrant fruits and vegetables. I think, gosh, when
I do a vegetable medley and it's so bright and beautiful,

(28:01):
I think, Wow, you are nourishing my body and activating
things in my cells and clearing things that I don't
even understand. But there is medicine in this and whatever
is meant to be. You do your work and I'm
open to it. So it feels that way. I know
that when we connected, you were talking a lot about

(28:22):
saffron being one of your new favorite things, and saffron
both of us said, first of all, is just so beautiful.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
The character is gorgeous.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
But talk about saffron because you have it as an
ingredient in some of your tea's and some other things
in the shopping you've been using it lately, and talk
about the benefits of saffron and how you were saying
you think it's going to become more widely utilized, and
it's been utilized in the Eastern world and ancient times,

(28:53):
but coming back, making a kind of a comeback or
revitalization is something that I think is activating and awakning us.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
It's honestly one of my favorite things to talk about,
but because it's something that I use in my.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
Own practice almost daily.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
You know, we're all used to the saffron thread. I
think a lot of us have cooked with them before.
But it's such a heart opening, heart chakra herb, much
like the vivosa. It's really soft and gentle. It kind
of allows you to open up to vulnerability, which I love.
It's very relaxing to the nervous system. I feel like

(29:31):
for me it's it's allowed me to tap into joy
a little bit easier.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
You know, I get so stuck in the oh, I.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Need to do this, I need to do this, this
can be better, I need to optimize this. But I
have trouble kind of looking around and going, oh, but
look what I've manifested here, and like, look at this
that I'm moving through this, And so I think saffron
just was really such a lovely counter point to that.
And like I mentioned to you before, I'm really seeing

(29:58):
when we're talking about natural medicine working towards anxiety and depression.
You know, I think if you are looking for an
alternative something that maybe isn't necessarily like a pill form,
saffron is really really great for that, and unlike Saint
josh Wort, which has also been traditionally eased for that,

(30:19):
it is not as contraindicated, right, so you could be
able to drink like staff on tea. It's been one
of my favorite severies I didn't say in the last
few years. And it's also just really cutey and delightful.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
You know, there's a lot of really great.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Herbs, but not all the delicious and a tea form
saffron is that is that girl for sure.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
When I was at the shop, I got the what
are they called the little smoking the.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Earth euphoria euphoria LUs.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
So I smoked those on the day one of those
on the day of the eclipse, and I had some
sacred cacao that had rows in it because you and
I had been talking about rose, and there's a theme
here too that keeps going back to the heart because rose,
as you told me, is.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
It is beautiful, but it is a heart opener.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
And it was so relaxing because on the day of
the eclipse, instead of going out and being in community
and out in the world, I kept it as a
very sacred, intimate time and just and I used one
of those and felt this just this sense of peace.
And I have to tell you it's really funny. During

(31:31):
the eclipse, I just relaxed and I meditated, and I
smoked this herb and just felt very peaceful. And then
my husband and I played dominoes, and so there's this
element of let's do something very playful, let's just connect,
and it doesn't need to be super ritualistic or very

(31:54):
planned out. So we played dominoes and we cooked dinner
and had a relaxing evening and it felt very much
like go with the flow energy and quit piling things
on your plate that are accomplishment driven or task oriented,
and just do what's in front of you. The work

(32:15):
will be waiting and you will have the creativity or
the energy to do it when it is time, versus
forcing it into a schedule. And that's the experience that
I received in conjunction with some sacred cacao.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
I mean, first of all, those three things are a
wonderful combat that was ever really didn't talk about that?

Speaker 4 (32:35):
You thought, yeah, yeah, I was.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Thinking about this and phone the other day, and you
think about the eclipse itself, the energy of the eclips
right like the sun. When you think of the sun
and astrology. It's like shining light, doing where are you
going create.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
Things like that?

Speaker 3 (32:51):
And so when the universe is shadowing that and it
becomes dark, and everything was quite at least where we were,
everything was silent, you know, and it's like, no, that's
what we're supposed to be doing during that it's going, inWORD,
not necessarily doing a whole bunch of stuff, but like
really taking that time to be quiet and to go within.

(33:15):
And I think all of those things, how and the euphoria,
I think those were a really nice choice.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, And it was What was really sweet about it
from a synchronistic standpoint is our neighbors. They have three
little girls and they were outside giggling and laughing and playing.
So it was very still and quiet, and then we
had their little playful giggles in the yard next door.

(33:42):
There was almost like a childlike element to it of
freedom and play. And when I think about when people
ask me or I've really gone within and ask myself,
what is happiness to you, Amanda, I go straight to
my grandparents' fig tree in their backyard, and my cousins
and us playing barefoot and laughing and all of those things.

(34:07):
I go back to that age, that space, and there
was a stillness and a happiness that came through, and
it was like, Oh, it's this remembering, this is who
I am. And when I live in this space or
create sacred time for it, it shows up more in
my daily life, even amongst the responsibilities of the day

(34:31):
to day and the multitude of things we have on
our plate that can create all of the nervous system
deregulation and disruption and stress and all the things that
life seems to breed. So adding these plants for me
and I know for other people, they can open us

(34:52):
up to remembering parts of who we are and reclaiming
those disassociated parts, Like you said, because so many people
relate to disassociating, and we have so many distractions or
we distract, or we distract with busyness, that finding that
simplicity and stillness helps us to remember and rekindle our

(35:14):
essence and our awareness. And for me, when I get
to bring that into my daily life in very intentional ways,
life becomes easier. And I don't mean that that I
don't go through my day to day and my pains
and stressors and challenges, but I seem to get out
of my own ego and way faster. And it's that

(35:37):
disillusion of the ego that is fusing with my higher consciousness.
So one thing I would love for you to recommend,
because so many people have stomach issues, that relates directly
back to our seat of empowerment or disempowerment, And that's
the numerology of this year, the solar plexus. What do
you recommend right now or what are you loving when

(35:58):
it comes to really softening the ego so you can
open into that heart space of vulnerability. What do you
recommend right now or what are you loving when it
comes to really softening the ego so you can open

(36:22):
into that heart space of vulnerability.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
You know, I think for the fire and the stomach
and an earth that I really love that very soothing
and coating and softening is marshmallow roots. Marshmallow root is
an herb that we call muculogenous.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
Was just just a.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
Very fancy way to say like coating, right, So it's
great if you have a sore throat.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
It basically just goes into any.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Inflamed or irritated tissue in the body and helps soften it.
I also really love to use it in like a
cold infusion instead of like a hot.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
Hot water infusion.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
So I'll pour cold water over it let it sit overnight,
because then you're really going to get that soft coating
that you would maybe kind of burn away with.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
A hot water.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
And I use that all the time in this summer
just to kind of stay cool. Like if I work
a really hot market, I'll take a bandana and dip
it in marshmallow infusion and kind of keep it on
my body. So it's cooling, it's nourishing, it's softening. But honestly,
I would say the IRB that I'm going to most lately,
and it kind of correlates with that, is milky oat.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
So oat straw is very common plan You'll see it
all over here. And the oat straw itself is very nourishing.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
It's full of all kinds of vitamins, minerals, things like that.
But there's a certain time of the year where the
top of the oat planet produces, like you squeeze it,
and it's like this white latex stuff that comes out.
It's only during a certain time of year. And if
you kink sure that fresh, if you tink sure the
oat top itself, it is an almost immediate response into

(38:04):
the body's nervous system. So I find a lot of
people who have kind of nervous tummy issues or have
trouble kind of like stepping into their power or like
that s frazzled feeling. Milky oats is one of my
favorite things because you're going to fill that immediate relaxation,
but it's also going to work to kind of restore

(38:25):
those nerve endings that have gotten kind of disattached, and
like frattle, it's a really lovely medicine to work with,
and that's something that I'm usually suggesting to people, especially
when they have those kind of like stomach issues.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Also, and I'm I'm wilty of this too, Like when.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
I'm nervous and I'm stressed, I tend to eat food
that isn't necessarily good for me. Yes, because your body's
like this is what you need to feel better, but
actually it makes it infinitely worse. So I would say,
you know, obviously the oat straw, but also us like
really putting in clean things into your body that are

(39:05):
going to nourish you rather than take away, right, and
you want to be built like pouring from a full cup,
not an empty cup, right, And.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
That's that's never something that people want to hear.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
But I do like to introduce that when I'm talking
to people, because you can take all the herbs you want,
but if you're putting trash food into your body, it's
it's not.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
Really gonna help.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
And unfortunately, your nervous system, your brain, and your stummit
are just all so so so connected.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
You know, you can't have one without the other.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Like you said, the gut, the brain, everything, the nervous system,
it's also interconnected and what we ingest and what we
put into our body. I did find for me a
couple of things, just on a personal note that I
integrated over this last year. I realized I wasn't getting
the minerals I needed in my water, and it showed

(39:56):
up in my hair. My hair was really brittle, my
hair dressed. Or was like, Amanda, I don't like you
have filtered water in the house. Do you think you're
not getting the minerals it's showing up in your hair?
And I said, you know, I eat organic, healthy food.
I'm very mindful of that. But I said, you're right,
and I immediately I have and I saw them in
the earth bar. It's in a little blue container Thos

(40:19):
Yes Chase minerals. So we bought those and I ingest
those every day and I've seen a massive difference. My
hair is a lot softer, it's also thicker, and it's cleared.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Up my skin.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
So that's one of the things that I was at
my hairdresser. She said, hey, this is probably what's going on.
And immediately, you know, I just said, show me the
right thing, and I just got online and that's what
showed up. And I saw it in the Earth Bar
and I was like, and I remember thinking, well, I
must have chosen a good one because Megan chooses to
stock this in here, and you all use high quality,

(40:53):
high efficacy, very intentional products in there, and brands that
are intentional. So I remember, like, smile when I saw
it on your shelves and I thought, I've been using
this and this is what I was called to And
those are.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
The minerals you carry in there.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
So to me, those are synchronicities that, oh, I'm listening
and then the right you know, the ideal mineral or
medicine shows up for me. But the other thing that
I've always incorporated, chlorophyll spirillina chlorella, those sorts of things,
whether it's through vegetables or supplements. But recently, and this

(41:29):
is probably within the last eight months, in a very
consistent way, I make sure that I get in my
liquid chlorophyll and my spirit. I'll use a spirillina powder
and the liquid chlorophyll, and I just I drink it
in the morning. And I will tell you what I
have seen in my body change. That is, I've never

(41:50):
seen change before, and it was just that concoction and
me intuitively saying, I want to drink this every morning,
and it's beautiful because it's just so green.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
But I will tell you this, I do not crave sugar,
and I don't eat much processed sugar unless I'm somewhere
and I indulge, but I don't keep that in the house.
But I've found that I don't have that kind of
obsessive sugar craving to like have the sweetness of life,
you know, or that emotional eating sometimes that has really quelled.

(42:26):
And what's interesting is I feel like it's helped my
mental health because of course it works on the gut,
so I feel like it's greened my gut. So I
found that by having that consistently, I can indulge in
life and the things in the sweetness of life, and
it doesn't you know, my eating is it's not about
perfect eating, but it is about knowing that I can

(42:50):
show up in life and indulge and then there are
certain things that seem to get me back to a
healthier baseline easier. I'm so excited that you are at
you and representing the Herb Bar, are joining me on
May seventh in Austin, because you've already curated some medicinals,

(43:14):
plant medicine and different offerings, a variety of different things
so people can dip their toe in the water become
more familiar. But for people out there who obviously aren't
going to be at the event or in the Austin,
Texas area, tell everybody a little bit about the herb
Bar and then what recommendations you would have for listeners

(43:35):
to begin wherever they are, just like a one oh one,
like where to start, because I think that's what can
be overwhelming and intimidating. Like we talked about where where
do they start? But talk a little bit about the
herb Bar for sure.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Yeah, So the.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
Rth Bar it's all been around egy spix at atens
on original apothecarity and then a physical shop. I had
that of the eighties, but I've actually booked bared Omer.
I used to live in Bolden Creek, which.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
Is where the shop is.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
I used to go and spend all my money there then,
or I did in school for Urbal Medicine. I've worked
better as an employee and now I own it. So
the shop that has been a very very special place
for me for quite some time. And what's something I've
realized owning at this I am very far.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
From the early person who has bad experience.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
So many people have been coming in since eighty six
friend and bringing their kids. Then there's just a lot
of history and community that's wrapped up in the shop,
which I really love. I don't know, because that's.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
That's really what Rbal Medicine is about.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Like it shouldn't be gate cat right, it should be
wisdom that's shared with everyone to enjoy. And that's one
of the things that we do at the shop that.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
I'm really proud of.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
Lots of one of white class that is in work
thoughts where you can learn how to work with plants
at whatever level you're at, you know, to get our lappable, intermediate,
advanced stuff that we're always doing. So you can check
out our newsletter or our website. That's the way you
have that stuff on there. I would say for me,
just getting curious is the number one set. And don't

(45:19):
be intimidated any herbalist or any shop that you go
to that makes you feel like they're the one who
are going to tell you and that you.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
Know you don't know what you're talking about. That's not
the shop for you.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
You should be going for that wants to educate you,
that wants to make you so comfortable, is they ask
questions and things like that.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
So tell everybody Megan where they can find you the
herb Bar. And also getting on your mailing list. I
think that would be a great place for people to
start your social media and your mailing list.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
Yeah, so you.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
Can go to out www dot vorthbar dot com. Definitely
find up for our newsletter on our website. We don't
stand with you, but it's really it's a beautiful newslider
and it's always going to keep you updated at all
of the different things.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Yeah, just coming by the schwop.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Everybody there is really luckily and open to sharing them
and ALLEDG.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
I love that well, definitely check it out. Thank you
Meghan for spending the time today and weathering the mercury
retrograde storm of technology. Thank you all out there. If
there are some glitches in this, we both have shown up,
but we are just riding the waves. So thank you
for sharing all of your insights and your wisdom and

(46:34):
your time today. I really appreciate it. And for everybody
out there, you can look in the show notes. We'll
add links to the herb bar and obviously the event.
If you're not coming, there are still tickets available. We'd
love for you to join us. It's on the Tarus
new Moon, and I know Megan is going to bring
also a little Tarus new Moon kit, so that's something

(46:55):
you can get.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
While you're there too.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
It's very intentional, and we're going to going to use
the power of our presence and our community and being
together alongside of other plant medicinals to really help us
rise up in consciousness and heal and come back to ourselves.
And like what you said, and that's the note I

(47:18):
want to close on, what could my life be like?

Speaker 3 (47:21):
That?

Speaker 1 (47:22):
I think is a beautiful place to get curious, as
you said, and think about in the months ahead, especially
as we move into this full moon and the close
of mercury retrograde getting clear, and what can my life
be like and not being intimidated by that question. So,

(47:43):
if you're new to herbs and plant medicine, don't make
it intimidating, make it accessible, and start one question, one
intention at a time, one newsletter at a time, and
see where that takes you and have fun with it.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Thank you so much Meghan for joining us. By everyone,
take care, be well.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Mm hmm
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