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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Joe. Truly great to see you, man, You too, Man,
How's life ups and downs?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Yeah, but steadily going.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm gonna start you with a curveball. I think you
can hit it. I have never sat with you like
this before.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
And when words circulated that I was going to I
got two texts from colleagues and they were like, good.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Luck with Joe. Really interesting guy. Can be a little
tricky to interview, for real.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Why do you think they said that. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
I feel like I critically think about each question and
I pause, think about what I want to say to
potentially give the best, most well thought out answer that
I can give. Maybe because of the way I talk,
or my voice inflections or my face, I often have
trouble interacting with people sometimes, and so that can potentially
(00:59):
throw some people off.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I think you're also high, IQ, and I think you
have this halo of mystery to keep it bout you
that can be intimidating. You're also a chess player, So
do you go into media? Do you have a strategy
or a philosophy at all?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Depends on the question that's asked.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Okay, I don't necessarily go into any interview thinking that way,
but I can think on my feet and if a
question is posed that I think I could steer one
way or the other, and I will certainly steer it
that way.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
This is gonna be fun.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Somehow.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
You were in your sixth.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Year, I know, right, crazy.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yeah, it wasn't that long ago that you were Joe
in Ohio and you were talk kid who played sports
and Jim and Robinson the seven to four to ozho
And now, dude, you are an international celebrity.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
What is your relationship like right now with fame.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
I'm certainly getting more and more comfortable with it.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
It is.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Not a place I ever thought I would find myself,
and it certainly comes with its own set of challenges.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I would say the pros.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Definitely outweigh the cons, but the cons are there and
you have to learn how to deal with them. And
it's not necessarily something that you can rely on a
lot of other people to help you with. There's certainly
not a lot of people in this kind of position.
So you just live and you learn, and you grow
through all the mistakes that you make and try to
find people who have been there and done that, And
(02:29):
sometimes those people don't necessarily want to share advice or
share because they've done it so many times. But then
you find some people that don't mind it. You learn
a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
From those who's someone that you could possibly relate to
that maybe helped you in that regard, cause.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
It's a small small little people.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Odell m I think I learned how to move around
and move efficiently a lot from him. Kevin Durant have
developed a nice relationship with and he's a good friend
now and we talk a lot about a lot of
different things and how to make life easier, make your
job easier, how to be great, things like that. Whenever
(03:14):
I see Tom, I try to get something, get something
out of him?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
What do you ask? How do you ask Tom Brady
like that? That's why I live life.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
It depends on how the conversation is going.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Yeah, you know, he's been through a lot the last
couple of years, and uh, he has a lot of
wisdom to to share. Yeah, and you don't wanna be
the guy that's just constantly like, hey, how do you
do this?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
How do you do this?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
What do you do there?
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Totally Uh, you just wanna kind of hang out sometimes,
but you know, when the opportunity presents itself, you try
to find a place that you can fit something in
and maybe learn something.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
This is really personal, so I I say this respectfully.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I want you know I think it is what you
went through with the violation of your home, and I
hate that you had to go through that.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
How did that change you as a person.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I'm not sure did really. It certainly affects you in
the moment.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
But I'm not gonna be the guy who's constantly anxious
about anything that's gonna happen to me on the day
to day. I just like going with the flow. Yeah,
living life. I'm not worried about all the potential things
that could happen in life or in football.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I don't like to worry about hypotheticals too much.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Joe, you do have an aura. I I I pick
it up.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
You have a vibe, you have a panache, and you
have all these incredible things in your life, whether it
be fashion or wealth that I wonder if it makes
it difficult to walk into some place like a locker room,
how do you have those things and connect then with
an undrafted free agent rookie lineman whose life is just
so different from your life.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Yeah, it's certainly as I've become older and more experienced
and more established in the league, it's certainly, uh more
challenging to do that. Guys come in and think of
you a certain way and oftentimes think of you as
just an extension of the organization or the coaching staff.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, and uh that's.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
A tough place to be because you want to connect
and and be friends with all the guys on the team,
but you also, yeah, have a job to do and
have some things to say when you need to say it.
So that's you're always trying to walk that that line.
And then sometimes you just don't have a lot to saying.
You wanna be by yourself, and you don't your social
battery is pretty low. Yeah, uh and so those are
(05:29):
a lot of things that I think about, critically, think
about a lot. It's certainly difficult. I try my best
and uh.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Pick my spots.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
When the social battery is low, that's when you can
make mistakes. So you gotta really behind your game, I
would imagine.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Yeah, when that happens, I usually you don't You might
not hear from me for a couple of days a week.
But uh doesn't mean I don't care about the people
that I care out and that's certainly.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
A difficult spot to be in.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
The way that I am, the way that I talk,
and the way that I look can often come off
a certain way to people. And you know, if I'm excited,
if I'm sad, You're not necessarily always gonna know it.
So if something I've gone through this a lot of
different areas of my life, if something cool happens and
(06:21):
or I get rewarded, and yeah, I look like this, right,
And sometimes people were like, oh, you look.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
So mad, and I was like, dude, I was pomped,
right Like.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
That happened a couple times last year and multiple facets
in my life. Yeah, and that's something that I guess
is just part of it.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Is so interesting, you know, because you do have the
undrafted rookie free agent lineman and then you have Jamar.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
And I look at you guys like you have this
football marriage.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
You met in college, moved to the same city where
put the same company, parents get along. Yeah, how is
the marriage evolved over the years.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
There's certainly probably less words exchanged on the day to
day now, m it's just cause we understand each other.
It's great. You know when you're just like a husband
and wife.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Once you understand each other and you're comfortable with each other,
you don't necessarily have to what's understood doesn't need to
be spoken, and I would say we have that relationship. Uh,
we still have intellectual conversations about football and different looks
on the day to day depending on you know, the
play that's in or the look that we expect of
(07:30):
the defense that we're playing. But the efficiency of communication
is so great now that, uh, there's not a lot
that needs to be said. We've seen all the looks,
we've run, all the routes, we've thrown, all the we've
had all the reps, so you can just recall something
quickly and be like.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Hey, you remember when we did it like that? I
do it like that, M boom, you got it.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Whereas you know, if you have a new receiver that
you haven't had all those conversations and reps and experiences
with the you might have to sit down with them
and explain exactly what you're looking at, asking what they're
thinking about, how do they wanna run in this look?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Where to where?
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Can they expect the ball against Yeah, uh, certain leverage
or coverage.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
And we don't have to do that anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
One part of a marriage, trust me. Do you guys fight?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
You and Jamar, have we ever focked?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Did you get into it? You bicker, You're on each other,
you're pushing each other.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
We certainly have been frustrated with each other. Do we
verbalize it? Not often?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Really?
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Typically, if that happens, one of us knows that either
we didn't play the play the way we wanted to,
or I didn't throw it to him when I should
have or and usually it's just one of us is
really mad and the other ones it's frustrated that he's mad.
And then we see the clip and they're like, ah
my bad bro, and he's like yeah, or I'm like, yeah,
(08:54):
we gotta be better.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
And that's about it.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I mean, I take it back. It's not like a
marriage at all. This is way better than any marriage.
But that was so healthy. What you just said is
amazing you.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Uh, I'm sure you've seen you've seen the The Last
Dance the Bulls Jordan documentary. We're gonna do the MJ
treatment with you because we're gonna give you an eyepine
way to watch a video. Okay, there's a video going
around right now that people are losing their minds about
in the NFL. You can press to play Joe and
just tell me what you think of this video, cause
a lot of people are watching it.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
It's certainly a big hit.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
That's football. That's football football Where I wanted to it
was pretty dang good throw.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Great throw.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
That's football.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
That's just casual feud.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
That doesn't blow your hair back.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
I mean, you don't feel much when you're out there.
That on specifically didn't hurt. Miles usually takes care of me.
He gets there and takes me to the ground, but
doesn't necessarily try to hurt me.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
He's good like that.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Yeah, I love Miles. He's a good guy, great player.
Got a lot of respect for him. The ones I've
heard are the ones where they're falling on you or yeah,
that's really the only one that ever hurts you.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Amuse me.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
In the Netflix series when you you grab one of
your lineman Kappa and you're like, hey, is all line fun?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I look at that clip? Is quarterback in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Fun Depends on the day, Yeah, depends on the day.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
I wouldn't say as you get older and more experienced,
I actively try to make myself have fun.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah, you know, try still trying to find the fun
in the game.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
You know, part of football when you're younger is you know,
it's a lo a lot of new experiences. Every game
is new, every practice could be new. As you get older, it's, uh,
you've seen a lot, done a lot, experienced a lot,
and there's.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Not a lot of new that can be thrown at you.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Sure, and so I'm you actively try to find the
the joy and the fun on the day to day.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
You talked earlier about it's it's can be difficult to
find people that you can relate to.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
You're part of a club that really just has three.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Members, and it's it's you, and it's Lamar and it's Josh.
And the guys in the club are universally respected, liked, loved, deven,
But you guys seem to carry this burden with you
that no matter what you do and no matter what
you accomplish, like you have to bring home a Super
Bowl and it follows you everywhere. It's not like an award,
it's almost like this obligation. How do you deal with
(11:19):
that up here to.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Try to get better every day the same way. It
sounds cliche, but mm, it's how we all got to
where we're at right now.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
And the only way that we're gonna keep improving is
if we attack every day with the same intensity that
we did five years ago to try to prove ourselves,
try to find that next edge in our game, to
take that little next step that you can take.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
When you're at this level, there's always room to improve.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
And you know, I've been through a lot in this
league with injuries, losses, wins, championships, losing championships, sure, and
then you just try to find ways to get better.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
I showed you the play with Miles Garrett. I don't
have video for this play, but it's something that's been
around for you. There's cause not Myles Garrett's Aaron Donald
and it's Rams Bengals Sofi Stadium. It's fourth down, He
makes a play, calls a game. How often do you
think about that play?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
More often than I'd like to, Yeah, more.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
The further away that I'd get from it, I would say,
you know, that year was kind of a whirlwind. That
was really I played ten games on our rookie year
got hurt, and that was kind of my first full
season of playing, and things fall our way and we
end up in the super Bowl, and yeah, you you
wanna go and win the game and be Super Bowl champs.
(12:44):
But at the time, I was really excited to be there. Yeah,
really excited to be in the situation that we were
really excited that we had the season that we had.
And then as you get further and further away, it's like, dang,
you know, we had a big opportunity there that we
didn't quite take advantage of. Yeah, and that weighs on
you sometimes.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
For sure.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
We're gonna wrap this up to One of the things
I was talking to Josh about recently that was interesting
was the idea that in your draft folder, your mental
or motivational draft folder, you have a Super Bowl speech,
like something you would say on parade day through downtown Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Do you have that in your draft folder?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I would say you. I periodically think.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
About how I would feel, what I would say, the
emotions that I would be feeling when I reach any
goal that I set out for myself.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
MM.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
I play through that in my head, just like I
play through the game in my head, just like I
play through m individual plays in my head. You can
see it, Yeah, I can see it, you can feel it,
you can experience it before it happens. That's usually more
of an off season kind of thought process, not a
(14:00):
lot of time during the season to to really think
about that until you get towards the end.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
You've been through the.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Season, you know, play as well as you can, and
now you're at the prespice of something at the end
of the year, whether it's going on vacation or going
and trying trying to win a Super Bowl, so you
certainly think about it.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I started with the curve ball, last questions of fastball,
belt high right where you want it.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Marvel You're a Marvel guy. I'm way into it.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
What Marvel character do you relate to? Do you maybe
see some of yourself in mm hmm?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Maybe iron Man? How come Tony? He's pretty straightforward.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I thought you're saying he's pretty.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
He is pretty, but pretty straightforward to just the way
that he interacts, looks, talks. I feel like I'm a
pretty straightforward guy.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
If I care about you, you're gonna know where you
stand with me.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
For the most part.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Joe Burrow has a heart like Tony Stark.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Yeh heart?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Can I just tell you mine?
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
I see fanos not the evil part, most powerful, most interesting,
most layered, fashionable, not afraid of color jewelry, but also
consumed with this thing that he wants to do and
he can't take a breath until it's finally done and
it's over.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
And he can just chill in the garden. Do you
relate to that?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:32):
I can relate to that. Yeah, can certainly be the
way you described it for sure. Can be a little
exhausting sometimes.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Yeah, but it'd be nice to take those pads off,
hang that thing up and just sit.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
There a certainly think about it sometimes.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I bet you do. I have to tell you this
wasn't tricky at all, not even at all.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
You're super cool, You're very generous, and I just can't
thank you enough for doing this, Joe, thanks for having
awesome to see you, mane.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
You think care?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Joe. Truly great to see you, man, You too, Man,
How's life ups and downs?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Yeah, but steadily going.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm gonna start you with a curveball. I think you
can hit it. I have never sat with you like
this before.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
And when words circulated that I was going to I
got two texts from colleagues and they were like, good.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Luck with Joe. Really interesting guy. Can be a little
tricky to interview, for real.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Why do you think they said that. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
I feel like I critically think about each question and
I pause, think about what I want to say to
potentially give the best, most well thought out answer that
I can give. Maybe because of the way I talk,
or my voice inflections or my face, I often have
trouble interacting with people sometimes, and so that can potentially
(00:59):
throw some people off.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I think you're also high, IQ, and I think you
have this halo of mystery to keep it bout you
that can be intimidating. You're also a chess player, So
do you go into media? Do you have a strategy
or a philosophy at all?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Depends on the question that's asked.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Okay, I don't necessarily go into any interview thinking that way,
but I can think on my feet and if a
question is posed that I think I could steer one
way or the other, and I will certainly steer it
that way.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
This is gonna be fun.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Somehow.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
You were in your sixth.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Year, I know, right, crazy.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yeah, it wasn't that long ago that you were Joe
in Ohio and you were talk kid who played sports
and Jim and Robinson the seven to four to ozho
And now, dude, you are an international celebrity.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
What is your relationship like right now with fame.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
I'm certainly getting more and more comfortable with it.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
It is.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Not a place I ever thought I would find myself,
and it certainly comes with its own set of challenges.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I would say the pros.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Definitely outweigh the cons, but the cons are there and
you have to learn how to deal with them. And
it's not necessarily something that you can rely on a
lot of other people to help you with. There's certainly
not a lot of people in this kind of position.
So you just live and you learn, and you grow
through all the mistakes that you make and try to
find people who have been there and done that, And
(02:29):
sometimes those people don't necessarily want to share advice or
share because they've done it so many times. But then
you find some people that don't mind it. You learn
a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
From those who's someone that you could possibly relate to
that maybe helped you in that regard, cause.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
It's a small small little people.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Odell m I think I learned how to move around
and move efficiently a lot from him. Kevin Durant have
developed a nice relationship with and he's a good friend
now and we talk a lot about a lot of
different things and how to make life easier, make your
job easier, how to be great, things like that. Whenever
(03:14):
I see Tom, I try to get something, get something
out of him?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
What do you ask? How do you ask Tom Brady
like that? That's why I live life.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
It depends on how the conversation is going.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Yeah, you know, he's been through a lot the last
couple of years, and uh, he has a lot of
wisdom to to share. Yeah, and you don't wanna be
the guy that's just constantly like, hey, how do you
do this?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
How do you do this?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
What do you do there?
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Totally Uh, you just wanna kind of hang out sometimes,
but you know, when the opportunity presents itself, you try
to find a place that you can fit something in
and maybe learn something.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
This is really personal, so I I say this respectfully.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I want you know I think it is what you
went through with the violation of your home, and I
hate that you had to go through that.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
How did that change you as a person.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I'm not sure did really. It certainly affects you in
the moment.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
But I'm not gonna be the guy who's constantly anxious
about anything that's gonna happen to me on the day
to day. I just like going with the flow. Yeah,
living life. I'm not worried about all the potential things
that could happen in life or in football.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I don't like to worry about hypotheticals too much.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Joe, you do have an aura. I I I pick
it up.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
You have a vibe, you have a panache, and you
have all these incredible things in your life, whether it
be fashion or wealth that I wonder if it makes
it difficult to walk into some place like a locker room,
how do you have those things and connect then with
an undrafted free agent rookie lineman whose life is just
so different from your life.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Yeah, it's certainly as I've become older and more experienced
and more established in the league, it's certainly, uh more
challenging to do that. Guys come in and think of
you a certain way and oftentimes think of you as
just an extension of the organization or the coaching staff.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, and uh that's.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
A tough place to be because you want to connect
and and be friends with all the guys on the team,
but you also, yeah, have a job to do and
have some things to say when you need to say it.
So that's you're always trying to walk that that line.
And then sometimes you just don't have a lot to saying.
You wanna be by yourself, and you don't your social
battery is pretty low. Yeah, uh and so those are
(05:29):
a lot of things that I think about, critically, think
about a lot. It's certainly difficult. I try my best
and uh.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Pick my spots.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
When the social battery is low, that's when you can
make mistakes. So you gotta really behind your game, I
would imagine.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Yeah, when that happens, I usually you don't You might
not hear from me for a couple of days a week.
But uh doesn't mean I don't care about the people
that I care out and that's certainly.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
A difficult spot to be in.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
The way that I am, the way that I talk,
and the way that I look can often come off
a certain way to people. And you know, if I'm excited,
if I'm sad, You're not necessarily always gonna know it.
So if something I've gone through this a lot of
different areas of my life, if something cool happens and
(06:21):
or I get rewarded, and yeah, I look like this, right,
And sometimes people were like, oh, you look.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
So mad, and I was like, dude, I was pomped,
right Like.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
That happened a couple times last year and multiple facets
in my life. Yeah, and that's something that I guess
is just part of it.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Is so interesting, you know, because you do have the
undrafted rookie free agent lineman and then you have Jamar.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
And I look at you guys like you have this
football marriage.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
You met in college, moved to the same city where
put the same company, parents get along. Yeah, how is
the marriage evolved over the years.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
There's certainly probably less words exchanged on the day to
day now, m it's just cause we understand each other.
It's great. You know when you're just like a husband
and wife.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Once you understand each other and you're comfortable with each other,
you don't necessarily have to what's understood doesn't need to
be spoken, and I would say we have that relationship. Uh,
we still have intellectual conversations about football and different looks
on the day to day depending on you know, the
play that's in or the look that we expect of
(07:30):
the defense that we're playing. But the efficiency of communication
is so great now that, uh, there's not a lot
that needs to be said. We've seen all the looks,
we've run, all the routes, we've thrown, all the we've
had all the reps, so you can just recall something
quickly and be like.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Hey, you remember when we did it like that? I
do it like that, M boom, you got it.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Whereas you know, if you have a new receiver that
you haven't had all those conversations and reps and experiences
with the you might have to sit down with them
and explain exactly what you're looking at, asking what they're
thinking about, how do they wanna run in this look?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Where to where?
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Can they expect the ball against Yeah, uh, certain leverage
or coverage.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
And we don't have to do that anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
One part of a marriage, trust me. Do you guys fight?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
You and Jamar, have we ever focked?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Did you get into it? You bicker, You're on each other,
you're pushing each other.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
We certainly have been frustrated with each other. Do we
verbalize it? Not often?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Really?
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Typically, if that happens, one of us knows that either
we didn't play the play the way we wanted to,
or I didn't throw it to him when I should
have or and usually it's just one of us is
really mad and the other ones it's frustrated that he's mad.
And then we see the clip and they're like, ah
my bad bro, and he's like yeah, or I'm like, yeah,
(08:54):
we gotta be better.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
And that's about it.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I mean, I take it back. It's not like a
marriage at all. This is way better than any marriage.
But that was so healthy. What you just said is
amazing you.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Uh, I'm sure you've seen you've seen the The Last
Dance the Bulls Jordan documentary. We're gonna do the MJ
treatment with you because we're gonna give you an eyepine
way to watch a video. Okay, there's a video going
around right now that people are losing their minds about
in the NFL. You can press to play Joe and
just tell me what you think of this video, cause
a lot of people are watching it.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
It's certainly a big hit.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
That's football. That's football football Where I wanted to it
was pretty dang good throw.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Great throw.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
That's football.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
That's just casual feud.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
That doesn't blow your hair back.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
I mean, you don't feel much when you're out there.
That on specifically didn't hurt. Miles usually takes care of me.
He gets there and takes me to the ground, but
doesn't necessarily try to hurt me.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
He's good like that.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Yeah, I love Miles. He's a good guy, great player.
Got a lot of respect for him. The ones I've
heard are the ones where they're falling on you or yeah,
that's really the only one that ever hurts you.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Amuse me.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
In the Netflix series when you you grab one of
your lineman Kappa and you're like, hey, is all line fun?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I look at that clip? Is quarterback in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Fun Depends on the day, Yeah, depends on the day.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
I wouldn't say as you get older and more experienced,
I actively try to make myself have fun.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah, you know, try still trying to find the fun
in the game.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
You know, part of football when you're younger is you know,
it's a lo a lot of new experiences. Every game
is new, every practice could be new. As you get older, it's, uh,
you've seen a lot, done a lot, experienced a lot,
and there's.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Not a lot of new that can be thrown at you.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Sure, and so I'm you actively try to find the
the joy and the fun on the day to day.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
You talked earlier about it's it's can be difficult to
find people that you can relate to.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
You're part of a club that really just has three.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Members, and it's it's you, and it's Lamar and it's Josh.
And the guys in the club are universally respected, liked, loved, deven,
But you guys seem to carry this burden with you
that no matter what you do and no matter what
you accomplish, like you have to bring home a Super
Bowl and it follows you everywhere. It's not like an award,
it's almost like this obligation. How do you deal with
(11:19):
that up here to.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Try to get better every day the same way. It
sounds cliche, but mm, it's how we all got to
where we're at right now.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
And the only way that we're gonna keep improving is
if we attack every day with the same intensity that
we did five years ago to try to prove ourselves,
try to find that next edge in our game, to
take that little next step that you can take.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
When you're at this level, there's always room to improve.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
And you know, I've been through a lot in this
league with injuries, losses, wins, championships, losing championships, sure, and
then you just try to find ways to get better.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
I showed you the play with Miles Garrett. I don't
have video for this play, but it's something that's been
around for you. There's cause not Myles Garrett's Aaron Donald
and it's Rams Bengals Sofi Stadium. It's fourth down, He
makes a play, calls a game. How often do you
think about that play?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
More often than I'd like to, Yeah, more.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
The further away that I'd get from it, I would say,
you know, that year was kind of a whirlwind. That
was really I played ten games on our rookie year
got hurt, and that was kind of my first full
season of playing, and things fall our way and we
end up in the super Bowl, and yeah, you you
wanna go and win the game and be Super Bowl champs.
(12:44):
But at the time, I was really excited to be there. Yeah,
really excited to be in the situation that we were
really excited that we had the season that we had.
And then as you get further and further away, it's like, dang,
you know, we had a big opportunity there that we
didn't quite take advantage of. Yeah, and that weighs on
you sometimes.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
For sure.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
We're gonna wrap this up to One of the things
I was talking to Josh about recently that was interesting
was the idea that in your draft folder, your mental
or motivational draft folder, you have a Super Bowl speech,
like something you would say on parade day through downtown Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Do you have that in your draft folder?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I would say you. I periodically think.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
About how I would feel, what I would say, the
emotions that I would be feeling when I reach any
goal that I set out for myself.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
MM.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
I play through that in my head, just like I
play through the game in my head, just like I
play through m individual plays in my head. You can
see it, Yeah, I can see it, you can feel it,
you can experience it before it happens. That's usually more
of an off season kind of thought process, not a
(14:00):
lot of time during the season to to really think
about that until you get towards the end.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
You've been through the.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Season, you know, play as well as you can, and
now you're at the prespice of something at the end
of the year, whether it's going on vacation or going
and trying trying to win a Super Bowl, so you
certainly think about it.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I started with the curve ball, last questions of fastball,
belt high right where you want it.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Marvel You're a Marvel guy. I'm way into it.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
What Marvel character do you relate to? Do you maybe
see some of yourself in mm hmm?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Maybe iron Man? How come Tony? He's pretty straightforward.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I thought you're saying he's pretty.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
He is pretty, but pretty straightforward to just the way
that he interacts, looks, talks. I feel like I'm a
pretty straightforward guy.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
If I care about you, you're gonna know where you
stand with me.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
For the most part.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Joe Burrow has a heart like Tony Stark.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Yeh heart?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Can I just tell you mine?
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
I see fanos not the evil part, most powerful, most interesting,
most layered, fashionable, not afraid of color jewelry, but also
consumed with this thing that he wants to do and
he can't take a breath until it's finally done and
it's over.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
And he can just chill in the garden. Do you
relate to that?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:32):
I can relate to that. Yeah, can certainly be the
way you described it for sure. Can be a little
exhausting sometimes.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Yeah, but it'd be nice to take those pads off,
hang that thing up and just sit.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
There a certainly think about it sometimes.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I bet you do. I have to tell you this
wasn't tricky at all, not even at all.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
You're super cool, You're very generous, and I just can't
thank you enough for doing this, Joe, thanks for having
awesome to see you, mane.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
You think care?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
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