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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
This is the most interesting season from Mahomes and the
Chiefs in years, potentially even ever, because there's so much change.
The last time we saw Patrick Mahomes play a game,
he got sillacked in the Super Bowl and said, I.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Didn't play to my standard.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
He threw an interception for the first time in almost
three hundred throws. Patrick Mahomes threw his first career playoff
pick six in twenty one playoff games. He had never
done that, and the Chiefs were broken in that game.
Now they show up and Patrick Mahomes' number one wing
man is going to be thirty six years old, his
number one wide receiver is facing a suspension. Arguably his
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best alignement is gone. And I think some of the
invincibility has gone. I think a little bit of the
aura is gone. And we know that the three pete
is gone. There's no three pee, there's no Chiefs pete.
That's all gone. What's not gone, though, is that the dynasty.
They are still in the middle of a dynasty. Guys,
Joe Montana didn't win three in a row. Terry Bradshaw didn't,
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Tom Brady, Troy Aikman. It's still the Chiefs. They lost
the Super Bowl. They were still in the Super Bowl.
And here's the measure of the Chiefs right now. All
those things I said about this guy's gone, and this
guy's old, and this guy this the Chiefs Open, Chargers Eagles,
Chargers Eagles, it's not great.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Would anybody have the.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Gall to say I think the Chiefs are going to
be going two to start the season? Hell no, and
that's playing against the Super Bowl champ and a continually
ascending Chargers team coach by Jim Harbaugh. I would never
say that about them. Despite all that I still listed
there's still the Chiefs. They are still in the middle
of a dynasty. Just a lot has felt like it's
changed outside of that since that Super Bowl. And it's
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the most interesting season I can remember from them years.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Listen, the West is tough.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
You're hearing all this great buzz from Pete Carroll's Raiders camp,
and then the other two are kind of self explanatory.
It's it's really tough, but I get the buzz just
watching that. I mean, you, guys, Jim Harbaugh can be
an unwieldy guy. Because he's eccentric. You guys did an
amazing job with it. There was a comfort there. I
got fired up talking about that running game. He said
mush like six times.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
That settled in.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And you know, last year was just the welcome back
to the NFL, the year for Jim Harbaugh get everything settled,
and of course ahead of schedule he makes the playoffs.
I think this year is when it's really like, all right,
now I got my guys. Now I'm going to reshape
the running game. Now my message is set in. It's
like it's year two. It's different. He's like a called
rookie quarterback, except he's a coach.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Now. It's like in my vision, so I'll call it
what it is. Guys.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
A week one, they're playing the Chiefs, and like, what
do you got, coach? I love Mush, and I love
talking about how great Herbert is, but you got to
beat that that other head coach with the mustache across
the field.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I love the interview.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
There's a lot to prove for the Chargers, but there's
a lot of excitement to him. We're certain givens for
the Cowboys seed He's gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I think that's gonna be great if he's healthy. Across
the board, there's things you can count on.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
The running game is interesting to me, but more importantly,
I think, really, if you're looking for a difference, look
at the biggest difference that they brought in.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I think George Pickens.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Is the most pivotal player right now on the Cowboys,
Like that's going to be.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
The difference between do they win in the playoffs or
do they not.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I'll be candid as you guys know. It was just
at Steelers camp. I talked to somebody with the team,
and I walked away with the belief that, let's just say,
no one was shedding tears in the hallway of the Steelers'
facility when George Pickens was traded.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I think there might have been a sigh of release.
I don't think it was a relationship that would needed
to continue for.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
A lot of reasons, and I don't think those reasons
had to do with football.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Fine, we've seen it a million times.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
You get a fresh start, new atmosphere and new teammates,
you light.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
It up, and that's a history. Is that the case?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Is this guy just plugging play a step in He's
gonna give you eighty five.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Catches as your number two receiver and light it up.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
And I don't know, but I know that they need
him because Dak and CD is not enough, especially with
the running game is unproven.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
So we take the Givens away. I know that CD
lamp he is incredible.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I don't know if George Pickens is incredible on the Cowboys.
And if I don't know if George Pickens is reliable
on the Cowboys, and if that sounds like I'm doubting
him being a skeptical, He's earned it.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
So we'll find out.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
The most pivotal Cowboys player is the newest Cowboys player.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
When Caleb came out and said this the four thousand
yard thing, I was a little bit disappointed because personally,
I don't care about that number.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I think it is really meaningless.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And for context, Josh Allen last year was the MVP
to not throw for four thousand yards. Jalen Hurts won
the Super Bowl did not throw for three thousand yards.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
You can go up and down.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
The list that the four thousand and five thousand Thay,
it's over right, and.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yet I like that he did it.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Now that I've had a second to think about it,
because it's not just about statistics and doing this and
doing that.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
It's about making the dumb joke go away.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
It's about the meme going away, and it's about you know,
the Bears are the only.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Team blah blah blah blah. Shut up. Yes, we know that.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
We've heard about it for years, and Caleb represents change
and renaissance and getting rid of all that dirty laundry
and garbage that the Bears have littered the floor with
for years. So if Caleb Williams wants to throw for
four thousand yards so that he never has to hear
again that no Bears quarterback has ever thrown for four
thousand yards, God bless him, do it. I hope he
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does it. I hope everything about it happens. Because there
are too many things clinging to this team, too many parasites,
too many things that just drag them down and worry
their reputation and get the fans upset, and the dumb
thing about four thousand yards is one of them. So
I don't think it's important you can win the MVP
in the Super Bowl this year and not throw for
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four thousand yards. But it is also just flicking off
one of those barnacles that cling to the Chicago organization.
And that is his job. Caleb's job. New bears, new future,
new everything. If it's important to him, then I completely
support it. And if he can stand up and he
can follow this whiz head coach he's got, he will
do it. Year two for quarterbacks is the new year five.
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Just just look around at what's going on. You have
to keep up. Joe Burrow was in the super Bowl
in his second year.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
All these guys that he's.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Competing with are going to be competing with.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
It's you don't wait, there's no It's not.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Like when I was a kid and you sit for
a backup for a couple of years, then there's a
warm up year and another warm up year, and now
you're in your prime.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
No no, no, no, no, that's all changed. And that all
changed when Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Took the field in his second year and was about
to be Brady in the title game. The standards are different.
I don't care that he is a new coach. I
don't care that he has to gel with his new players.
It's time you win in your second year or we
start looking so.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yes, Caleb has all the tools. But no, no, no.
If you were to tell me that Caleb.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Williamster's for forty five hundred yards this year and the
Bears are seven and ten, that is a bitterly disappointed year.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
This is a playoff.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Season for the Bears, and anything less of it is
like what are we doing? Something we would do here
in Good Morning Football would be like what is this
team slogan for twenty twenty five?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Like what would what would be their motto? Like on
the media guide And for.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
The Cleveland Browns, it's just the twenty twenty five Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
We have Miles Garrett, Like that's that's it.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
It's just that they have Miles Garrett and they have
a good coach and everything else is like, I don't
know what we're doing here?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
How do I dissect this?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Mister Haslam talked about Deshaun Watson and he's working his
way through this and looking to that.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Just a few matter of months ago.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
He's talked about Deshaun Watson and saying, quote, we took
a big swing and a miss with Deshaun Watson. We
thought we had a quarterback and we didn't. That's all
past tense. That's like he's speaking in the like it's over,
is completely disavowing it in terms of like we're done
with it, it's over.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
It's like it never happens.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
He also said, we've got to dig ourselves out of
that hole.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
All right.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
So now there's this who did what in turn of
who drafted Shador and he says, oh, no, that's not
going to happen when we talk Friday night. So it's
basically saying I didn't want to draft Shador. Trust me,
you think I did, I didn't. I let the GM
do that. So now the franchise quarterback is disavowed, the
famous rookie quarterback is.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
That's not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I'm going to do the Browns fans a favor and
not even mention the rookie running back because that's completely
unsavory and terrible. But they do have Miles Garrett and
they do have Kevin Stefanski. We've had questions about this
team for months.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
There he is. He looks great.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Just put that on the scoreboard, put that in the standings,
because they do have him, and they paid everything not
nailed down to keep him. I don't know where this
team is headed. I know they have a coach and
a pass rusher. They don't have a running back. They
don't really have any clarity on quarterback. It's hope springs
eternal and this time of year, and let's go and
let's win.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I just don't know where we're going.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
And normally, guys, when the owner comes in, it's to
shed clarity and to set the map for this season.
And you're supposed to walk away from that session feeling like, Okay,
all right, we can do I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I know they have a good pass rush and a
good coach.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
That the only answer to any question I know about
this team, FDR. And I'm gonna go to nineteen thirty
three Franklin Dell and Or roosevelt inaugurial inauguration in which
he told the American people the only thing we have
to fear is fear itself.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
And I'm going to say this about the New York
Giants now. FDR was saying, listen.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
We have the resources to be successful as a nation.
We are just crippled by anxiety and fear. Rise up,
United States. Let's be a strong country. And people went
nuts for it. I look at the New York Giants. Yes,
maybe you have a starting quarterback on his last chance. Yes,
maybe you have a head coach on his last chance.
The only thing you have to fear is fear itself.
You're not afraid of the Eagles. You're not afraid of
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the Copeges. You're not afraid of the Commanders. You the
New York Giants have the pieces to win this year.
You have pieces with experience, with his talent, with coaching.
Brian Dable has won in the playoffs before. He can
do it again. Just don't be afraid to do it.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Now. You have offense, you have defense.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
You have quarterbacks, you have leadership, you have a fan
base that is.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Dying for it.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Don't be afraid because the only thing you have to
fear New York Giants is fear itself.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Three reasons why you do it won the money.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Obviously, to Trey Hendrickson's like a lunch paal type of guy.
He wants to be around. He likes to be with
the guys. He likes to show his face. I think
that's important to him. But also guys, this is a
good strategy in terms of the media. When the player
is there standing on the sideline and you can have
video of him and you do that shot where you
pan from him to the head coach, from him to ownership.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
That's very compelling.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
In avenues like ours, you can see him and it's
on sight unseen. He's off training somewhere in Florida or wherever.
You don't talk about it as much. It's very similar
to you if you have a blow up with your
wife or husband and you got just knocked down, drag
out when.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
You're sitting there watching TV.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
If they just leave and they're like, I'm out of here,
out of sight, out of mind. If they're sitting on
the other end of the couch next to you, sign
and you feel the tension and you feel the presence,
I think you're more inspired to resolve it, to turn
and be like, all right, I'm sorry, let's make amends.
Trey and the Bengals are now sitting on opposite sides
of the couch, looking at their phone and signing, and
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that is much more difficult to deal with than if
they just get the car and drive off. The Jet
Steelers thing I think week one is hilarious. The fact
that Rogers begins his Steelers career in Jet Life Stadium,
as used to call it, I have Rogers versus Sauce.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I love this. I love that.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
The fact that you're hearing that Sauce Gardner now may
or may not travel with number one receivers more and more.
That means, guys, we have Sauce on DK, we have
Rogers throwing to them. We have Just twenty minutes ago,
it felt like these two guys were going to Broadway
plays and hanging out in New York City and best buds.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
And I'm sure they still are. But let's be honest here.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
The real headline matchup is going to be Aaron versus Aaron,
and that is Rogers versus Glenn. Rogers goes into that
stadium of the coach GM and brain trust that released
him for the first time in his career and said
we're moving on.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
That is perfect. We're not even.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Giving him a warm up week or warm up month.
First game at Mett Life in Jersey.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
I love this one, Rogers versus Soft, but you could
pick fifty of them.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
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Speaker 3 (12:46):
It'll be there,