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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
A few nights ago, my wife and I had our
spent our free time on the couch watching a little
motion picture called Holiday Touchdown, A Bill's love story. We
put on the Bills Hallmark movie. We watched it from
start to finish. I enjoyed it. There's Dawson Knox sus
in it. All kinds of bills show up and I
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watched that's Bobby bacal like. I enjoyed it. Here's why
I bring it up. What's up to mar Hamlin? The
movie was a lot like the Bills.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
It's like, it's fun, it's charming.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Sean McDermott is there, and you know how it's gonna
end in the first five minutes. And I wish I
could say that's not true, but my word is anxious
about the Bills. And I think I feel the same
way as a lot of people in Western New York
is that we have watched the last four or five
years of Josh Allen teams. Right now, this doesn't feel
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like one of the special ones. It may be if
you were to rank the last four teams, this might
be the fourth and that's really negative. And maybe it'll
flip because they have that kind of punching power. But
I would pick up with Cabinda was saying with the
basketball thing. I look at them as the Chicago and
it's like they have Jordan and James Cook is Pippin'.
I don't know who their Rodman is or their Horse Grant,
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or they Ron Harper. I don't know who their Luke
Longley is. I just don't know if this is a
team that is going to win three playoff games. And
this isn't a reality where we don't even think they
may have to go through the Chiefs when they get there,
because they're not going.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
To be there. It's just if they turn the corner.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
In terms of a lot of different things outside of Allen.
The problem is that Allen is such this giant, glowing
neon object that it takes a lot of the attraction
from all of the weaknesses in this team. And if
you've been watching them, if you watch them against Houston,
they're there. And that's so I'm anxious about this team.
If you were waiting for, like this is the one
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they finally get over the hump. They're not showing that
now that this team is special and transcendent, maybe they will,
but right now I'm anxious that they won't. Let's talk
about the Texans, because the Texans just held the Coast
of sixteen points, a week after they held the Buffalo
Bills to nineteen points. The Texas defense is probably the
strongest group in the AFC.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
What's better?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Are you gonna say the Bills offense with Josh Allen?
I don't know if you say the Bengals offense, They're
not as relevant as the Texans. Nobody wants to play
this defense. Nobody wants to try to pass against this defense.
It's a playoff defense and a playoff pass rush. Remember, guys,
there's an zero to three team, there's a three to
five team.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
They are now four in a row.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And the best part of all is if you think
they're not getting enough credit or exposure, I will direc
your eyes to this Sunday night when the Houston Texans
go to Arrowhead Stadium on Sunday Night, not only going
against the rainy and AFC champions, No, no, no, no no.
This is to put a steak into the Chiefs and
say bye bye. You can sit your starters because you
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are done. You are not making the playoffs. That is
a massive opportunity for the Texas. Nobody does that's the
chief Nobody does that to Mahomes. But if they go
into Arrowhead and hold the Chiefs under twenty points and win,
the Chiefs are done. We will not talk about anymore
by out and the Texans are the ones that shovel
the dirt on them. So, Houston, you're having a month,
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go have a week. It's an incredible time we're in
right now. Where not in the last week of the season,
even in week fourteen, the Houston Texans can eulogize the
Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
It's a nuts nuts thing to say.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Out loud, but it's Houston's that good that they can
do it. This is angry fan bases right now out there.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Oh yeah, take a quick account.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Like you have the Chiefs five hundred, but they just
count there and they have so much success. You have
the Eagles, who are really upset right now after what happened,
but they've had a lot of success too. I think
the most upset fan base right on in the NFL.
He has this steels and you know why, I know
this not only will you you understands not only were
they booing, a lot of teams boom. They started playing
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Renegade last night at the stadium.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
They're song by.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Styx, and they booed Renegade. They starting, oh Mama, they
didn't want to hear that. Don't play that nonsense. When
we can't do it, stop playing it. I'm seeing many
people online who cover the Steelers for a living who
say I have never heard Renegade the song. The guys
from Sticks whoever are still around, fell up their chairs
getting booed.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
And I found myself in this.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Game just just watching Rogers, and my god, they put
him on camera a lot, and I watched him on
the He's got a damn cast. He's about to turn
forty two. His noses may be broken, it's bleeding. He
looks miserable. The beard has never looked grayer. He's taking
hits from meatheads like Bosa like this. And I've seen
some suggestion of line about you know what you got
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apparently a big old house in Malibu. You got a
big old mountain of cash at home. You're gonna go
on the Hall of Fame five years after you retire,
Like what are you doing here, And to that, I say,
I think Rogers lives for this. I'm gonna flip on
that completely. He knew what was going to, what time
it was. He's played in a million cold weather games
where he gets his ass kicked and the team maybe
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is not playing that way.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
He's boot in Green Bay before.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
That's true, and I'm also gonna flip it right now
on Monday morning, right now, after one of the worst,
most listless Steelers losses you'll see in this generation. I
think They're gonna win next week at Baltimore. I do
because this is how the Steelers were. I love it,
Kyles how mikeel Doveland ross. You get to six and six,
all is lost. It's post apocalyptic. Everything that fired this person,
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cut this person, and like that, they find a way
to win and the gravity kicks in. This is right
where the Mike Tomlin Steelers live. When it seems like
all hope is lost.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Oh what do you know?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
They win two out of their next three and things
are going. I think that they're going to win at
Ballaltimore next week because I've seen this before. Maybe not
this dismal Rogers will play the defensive line out of
nowhere is going to be all over, Lamar. This is
how it works when all hope is lost.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Guess what happens next? Good thing.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I think they'll win at Baltimore next week. I don't
appollog this for it and Denver just.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
They never lose.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I feel like they have a little bit of the
dueling Spider Man thing with them in New England.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Is this the same team? They feel so similar.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
You have the second year quarterbacks who are really talented,
sometimes look great, sometimes look a little shaky than they
redeemed themselves. You have like the old the veteran Obi
wan Kenobi head coach who's not here for any bs,
who in one way or another has a Super Bowl
ring at home. And I feel like neither one of
these teams has lost since like two thousand and six.
They never ever lose, no matter what they got to.
The last four games, you understand, for the Broncos, they've
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won by a combined ten points, by three, by three,
by three, and now by one. So when I'm getting
now we're getting into the money time, man time, We're
getting into like it's time to really really see what
you're made of. It's a couple of things I want.
I want a coach I can depend on. I want
to be able to win close games, and I want
a really good defense.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Denver has got.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Out all of those things. If I'm Denver, like I've
talked about this team a lot this year, Will you
understand ye, the early earlier Roethlisberger Steelers. Ben's second year
won the whole damn thing, and no one was telling them, Oh,
it's too early, it's too and no, no, no. You had
a red ass coach who wasn't here for any nonsense.
You had a crazy defense, and you had a second
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year quarterback.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
And that team was so good that, like Ben, played
poorly in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
And they still won.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
You know what I'm saying, Like, if I were those teams,
and if I were those coaches, I would show the
Broncos and the Patriots. I would show them those early
Steelers teams, Steels going to win the Super Bowls, the
Seahawks about we can do it now, there's no warm
up here.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Screw that.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I've said this a million times. Year two is the
new year five for quarterbacks. Win.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Now are you seeing the AFC? The varsity kicking in
the playoffs, Lamar Mahome.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Rogers, I don't know if those guys are even going
to be in. The Bears are nine and three and
they haven't really got cooking yet, Like Caleb's not really
in his stride yet, and they're still nine and three.
So there's this excitement about, well, imagine when they really
get the passing game going. If you're a Packers fan
or a Packers player, you're like, well, imagine if they don't.
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Maybe this is the passing game. Maybe there's not some
pot of gold coming at the end of this. And
to add to that, Coach Johnson also this week is like,
all right, this is the best defense we faced this
year by far, the Packers defense. They have the best personnel,
they have the best set of safeties. We have not
seen a defense like that this year. So I think
the storyline we're talking so much Bears because I was
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just there and on and on the storyline of the
Packers is fascinating because they're the one in a Bears
Packers matchup. The Packers are seemingly this unspoken about team
that's unheard of. When's the last time that was the case,
And the Packers are like dude, we're at home. We're
eight three and one, you're nine and three. Bully for you.
They're only tied. We had we scored forty points. I
think the Packers are ready. I think they are poised.
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And with all the exposure on the Bears and all
the expectations and the shirtless stuff and the hot dogs,
wouldn't it be kind of poetic if the Packers just
smacked him in Lambeau and that didn't get the passing
game going, and Ben Johnson got to shake Matt Lafleur's
hand after a loss.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Ben Johnson and Matt Lafleur are not friends. They don't
share a past resume. This is not like Kyle Shanahan
and Sean McVay where it's busting chops. In fact, I
thought the guys in the part Might Take did a
great job. They had Matt Lafleur on and he was like, yeah,
I don't know Ben Johnson.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
And when he.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Said that, I got a bunch of texts from a
bunch of people saying he had said it, and I
thought it was Packers Bears, But I guess it's Ben
Johnson versus Mattleful, Like He not amused, completely motivated, and
Matt Lafleur is a fascinating guy to watched this week. Now,
as I sit here outside Oahar Airport in the dang
robe looking at a parking garage, here's my credential Yesterday
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from going to Hallas Hall, I went to the Bears.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Yesterday. I sat with Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
He was generous, he was kind, he was interesting, and
he was locked the bleep in like a business face,
business like everything from top to bottom. He was ready
for Packer Week. And my biggest takeaway from being with
Caleb Williams was that Ben Johnson is running every facet
of that organization in that building. His presence looms over everything.
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Everybody talks about him. Caleb lit up any question I
asked him of Ben Johnson. Caleb brought up Ben Johnson
in questions that had nothing to do with Ben Johnson.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
He wants to talk about Ben Johnson. And here's part
of it.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Of course, this is after the game they'd beat Philly
and he goes legend and now everybody had a free
hot dogs yesterday in Chicago. But every PR person I
talked to, every person I have known over the years,
in the hallways or the cubicles.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I get in the car afterwards I leave Hallas Hall.
There's the guy picking me up in the car. His
first question was, Hey, how's the new coach? Not how Caleb?
Not how's monong guy? Not how any the new coach
looms over everything, And if you've watched the new coach
this week, he didn't want to hear any nonsense about
where the one seeds. He will bite your bleeping head
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off if you talk about whoa you're going one seed? Congratulations. Also,
we had the most pointed quote. I talked to Cale
about how he's playing, but Ben Johnson this week said
we are winning in spite of our passing game, not
because of it, and no one is happy with that.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
And Caleb and I.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Talked about it, was like, he's right, It's just my
biggest takeaway.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson. They wouldn't let me
leave the building. Guys, you won't know how big Ben
Johnson looms and howse hall. This is the shirt that
I got. They woudn't let this shite. Maybe they're handing
these suckers out.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Look he looks like John Cena meets SpongeBob, like his
maniac stuff is going on there. He wrote that check
about Matt Lafleur and now he has to cash it
this weekend in Lambeau.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Dude, it is. It's so odd.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
This is a great breaking Calebs talk about he wants
to lamboat Leap, but I don't know if the Packers
fansil let.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I'm like, it's just awesome. I'm sware enough to be
a football fan.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
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