2023 Conference Championship Preview AND Jim Harbaugh Lands with the Chargers

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
They around the NFL podcast taking applications for Mark's next
pet team.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
From the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's around the NFL
AFC NFC Championship Game preview edition. How about that? Dan
Hans is here with heroes, Mark Sessler, Rag Rosenthal. Boys,
I'm looking at this. I'm looking. I'm looking and Mark,

(00:30):
I know you got you like new things. You always
like something new, sure like any like not a takedown,
just the reality. No, but it's a reality. Many humans
would agree. So if we get Baltimore and San Francisco
at the end of this weekend, that's a rematch of
Super Bowl forty seven. We get new If we get
Casey at San Francisco, that's a rematch of Super Bowl
fifty four. Detroit a whole new world where's somewhere else

(00:54):
never appeared in a super Bowl. In fact, I believe
this is their second NFC title game period.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
We also are getting a rematch of thirty eight to six,
the classic Ravens beat down from Week eight Ravens Lions.
If that happened, just saying from this, we don't that
was tough that that does not count as as a remiss.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Week eight feels so far away. But yeah, so the
Lions are the nubie here now. The Chiefs are the
old guard. The Chiefs are if you are somebody that
don't wants something fresh. And as much as I love
Patrick Mahomes and obviously Chiefs, Kingdom loves Patrick Mahomes, and
America is growing a bit weary with the Chiefs. I

(01:33):
feel like Mark, even if you're a Ravens hater, which
you are, it might be it might behoove us if
we want something new to get even though the Ravens
have been in this game periodically throughout the century, to
get the Chiefs out, Maybe that happens this weekend, who knows.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
I think the Lions are the great hope of newness.
Don't try to sell me on any of the other
three teams. And I like, you know, the intro talked
about my pet teams or this way, and Ravens haven't
even been in this week and you have a Ravens
fetish and I acknowledge that, like I have a different relationship.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
But you're saying new for a long time. I was
at the Niners Ravens Super Bowl and it felt like
two days ago to me.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
We I we were just there. The lights, you know,
the whole thing went out.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
We we we It feels like we've been doing this
show a long time. We have never had a Ravens
Conference Championship preview here.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Wow, first time.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
But I did write the NFL dot com when the
article when the electricity went.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Out you did the blackout store. Yeah, it was like
you write this, It's like, I don't what's happening is is?
How is you know why you were the super because
I wrote the Beyonce halftime show article. Right, just people
getting banged left and right. We're all about to die.
Who's on this one? Just off? All right? I'll never
forget that. And by the way, Jim Harbaugh was the
coach back then for the Niners, and he's going to

(02:52):
be coming up in conversation a little bit later today.
I'll never forget that Super Bowl because my father, with
your help, went to That was the first time went
to the Super Bowl. Yes, took him to the game,
my dad, who I would never in any work scenario.
But if you had a chance to do that with
your dad, it's just something to think about. And all

(03:15):
the first thing that seriously came to my mind when
the lights went out, was oh, no, I just got
my dad to Super Bowl. No, I'm gonna get him killed.
That was like my first fear that we were all
about to like my mom was gonna be mega pissed.
That's a quality instinct.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
My dad's first Super Bowl as well, was it shared it?

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Were you frightened for your dad? I generally it was
assigning articles to you and me. He was not concerned
about his I wasn't.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
I figured, oh, this is weird, but it'll probably work out.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
I'm optimist. This is such a greg outlook, but it's
not a big deal.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
It was definitely a big deal, but I was like, well,
this will probably get fixed hopefully.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, well it did.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
I think it's as someone that lived in New Orleans
shout out to Entergy a lot of power in New
Orleans all the time, so it almost it felt for
why would.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
You give him a shout out? Then they're the worst.
They're the worst. And guess what. There will be a
super Bowl in New Orleans next year, but there hasn't
been one since that game, and that's a there's a
reason why, because you know it's the best place for
a super Bowl for to get punished and get sent
to the the rubber room, as it were, just like
Jerro World. By the way, all right, let's get on
track here. We got a lot to get to. We

(04:24):
have guests coming up in a little bit. James Palmer,
one of our favorites with NFL Network. He is been
embedded with the Chiefs covering that team and covering this
AFC finale. It is the season finale of the AFC
on Sunday, and he's going to join us in a
little bit and on the NFC side of things, and
also to break down all the news that's going on.

(04:46):
The Great Cynthia Friedland will be in studio. So let's
get to it without further ado. Game one. Oh, there's
two games. How about that? There's only two games on Sunday.
We're still doing clearly going way over an hour, just
two games. We'll find a way, we will will balloon

(05:07):
it out whatever we need.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
We've got two guests, We've got news at the back end.
It's oh, it's it's gonna be Oh, it's a slam dunk.
Going over an hour anyway.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
First game, three pm, Eastern CBS Nance Romo Wolf sent
and you hear our boy mad Dog. Get after Roma,
mad Dog, I would say, I think you said it. Well.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
When mad Dog is right, he's right when he gets
onto something and he feels his passion in his heart
starts to flare up.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
There's no one else like him. What are you talking about, though,
get out so mad Dog.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
He went after Tony Romo, who dropped a attempted to
drop a historical nugget about the and like an old
Steelers moment, and Romo the old still the immaculate reception reception,
but it was like the Holy Roller all this other hafen.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Like, just make it clear. So he says, immaculate reception
on the ball that gets tapped out of bounds by
the tight end on the first play from scrimmage, which
is the wrong reference because the macular reception was a
totally different play with franc o'harris, which I would imagine
Romo rose, but he the Raiders was the Holy road
Roller when the ball was knocked forward and scored a
touchdown and the rule was changed. Anyway, Russo is fired

(06:15):
up about that.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Russo goes absolutely crazy, and they're go find like female hosts,
you know, stationed about seven yards behind him, just watching
him up like David Letterman, like up against the King.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Absolutely nuts. They're just watching him like a tail is
growing out from above his butt. Just mad dog anyway.
So Romo didn't get demoted though, So that's good. He's
got this game. Had the Super Bowl too, got Patrick
Mahomes again, Tracy Woolson, now listen to this. They also
got Evan Washburn on the sideline, who you know is

(06:47):
Patrick Bateman but well adjusted. And then Feeley this, why
not Chiefs at Ravens? How about that Mahomes v. Lamar
the Ravens. The line has not moved here. It's Ravens
by three and a half, and that should be You
could even make the case that it should be higher.
Their home. They've been playing dominant football, greg Ee for months.

(07:11):
They just came off a game against an upstar Texans
team where they just seize control at the half and
really flex their muscles in a lot of ways. It
feels like this is their year. But man, just like
just like the Bills thought this was their year. It's
cool to say it's your year, but then you have

(07:32):
to be Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs and teams aren't
good at that time. There is something to that.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
If Mahomes is the Jordan and he kind of is that,
you have to I know many teams couldn't do this.
You have to get past it. Or if he's Brady,
if they're the Patriots, you have to get past him.
And I think of some Patriots years like six when
the Colts finally got past the Patriots, or even I
forget which year it was where they didn't have an
offensive line and Stephen Jackson was the running back.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Might have been.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Fifteen where the Bronco or thirteen when the Bronco's barely
got bad. Those were bad Patriots teams and then they
got to the playoffs and suddenly they were great Patriots.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
But like gone down with Bagot.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
In the same way that we were talking about this
Chief's offense if we were doing a podcast back then,
they weren't the same Patriots all season and then it's
almost like you get to the playoffs and it's like, oh, yeah,
this is this is how we feel alive again. This
is how we do what we do, this is how
we rise up to a challenge. And offensively, I think
they're going to be tested this week because I think
the Ravens defense is the perfect defense to face this

(08:31):
Chiefs group because they throw so many different looks at
you before the snap, after the snap, snap, two snap.
It's got to be different on second down and third down.
It's gonna be different first drive to the third drive.
It's gonna be different first half to the second half.
And as good as Mahomes was last week, Finally, if
you watch us on YouTube throwing the ball in rhythm,
it didn't happen all season where he got to the

(08:53):
back of his drop and he actually trusted mvs and
made that like slot fade to start the second half,
and all these great throws were actually was Mahomes delivering
the ball on time. I actually don't think that's gonna
be the way that they can win this game, because
I don't think they're good enough to do it. I
think the Ravens make you hold the ball, and it's
just gonna have to come down to Patrick Mahomes holding
the ball a little extra and making Patrick Mahomes magic,

(09:17):
whether it's with his feet or then buying time and
making crazy throws. I don't think they're gonna beat the
Ravens just running their conventional offense. Maybe you can run
the ball fairly well during the game, but I don't
think what worked against the Bills is gonna work this week.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Yeah, And I you know, we're looking at a Ravens
team that, against playoff teams from this season, has put
up thirty points on offense per game allowed, just seventeen.
They they're like, they're these sort of polar opposite of
these like the Dolphins. We've talked about teams that like
go up against winning teams and like what's special about
them vanishes, Like the Ravens seem to become more embellished,

(09:52):
more special when they go up against the best competition.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
And I think you're right.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
This is like this is a huge test of Lamar Jackson,
a huge test of the in hire team to get
over a Chiefs team that kind of feels like when
they get challenged theoretically in the playoffs like this, like
everything that we thought was a weakness of yours goes away.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
They became a completely different offense the last two weeks.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
I really do trust the Ravens, though, in this situation
at home, to be the best version of themselves. And
I think that's an unbeatable team right now. That is
an unbeatable team. They put it on the Niners like
the Texans a week ago. We're talking about a team
that completely separated the Cleveland Browns defense. The Ravens made
them look like a team that had barely played all season.
And now you go against Patrick Mahomes, who, by the way,

(10:36):
against the Ravens last two times he's faced them, has
been nearly perfect, but he is dealing with a different
group of targets and wide receivers. I think that's I
do wonder if around the corner there's that game that
kind of reveals what was Kansas City's weakness all along
was mistakes by your wide receivers, mistakes, drops issues. Does
that rear its head in this game or do they
continue this journey?

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, And that's why it's kind of almost frustrating to
watch the Chiefs from one perspective is because the NFL
in football in general, doesn't feel like like the type
of sport you could just flip the switch and turn
it on in the playoffs and all their scheme, their
scheming was not effective on offense all season. They were
trying it, they were trying very hard. It wasn't like

(11:19):
a long NBA season where you're you know, resting guys,
or you're kind of just just trying to get through it,
you know, bank your fifty six wins and then really
start bowing up for the playoffs. They tried all season
to get the offense right and couldn't do it. So
watching them really thrive against the Bills all game long,
to see Travis Kelce returning as a playmaker in the

(11:41):
red zone, to see them find a downfield presence as
unlikely as it is, and mvs that Isaiah Pachenko is
playing like a star running back where she Rice obviously
is an every week contributor. It's kind of wild and crazy,
and that would be my concern is Baltimore fan is
like all year, I thought this was a great window

(12:02):
for us because the Chiefs are down on some level
for them, but they're not now now they're kind of
like the Chiefs again, So what happens with that? On
the and the other point I wanted to make greg
was that the two number one seeds both had scares
in different ways, so that the Ravens were tied at
halftime with a big special teams play going into the
locker room. The Niners. We know what happened with them.

(12:25):
They nearly get picked off survive in the final minute
of that game. To me, the Niners team, I'm as
I've said on the show, I'm concerned about and I'm
curious what we're gonna get on Sunday. The Ravens team,
I think that's the one that we're just like that
battle hard in them. They've had some issues in the
divisional round playoffs and the lamar Era to get over
that hump. I don't have any concerns with the Ravens

(12:46):
show up tight or not playing at a high level
on Sunday because they kind of knocked off that rust
and any of that type of stuff. Woul that win
last week to.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Make Yeah, I think that's that's fair. And now the
extra rest they got, they've got really two weeks of rest.
I think you could see it last week on the
offensive line in particular, but before we kind of moved
to the Ravens offense. Like the reason I trust this
Ravens defense at least slow the Chiefs down here compared
to where they've been the last couple weeks is the
middle of the field. All these teams attack you at

(13:15):
off ball linebacker and they attack your safeties and they
find mismatches. And Andy Reid did a great job last week,
and in Patrick Mahomes did too. Now who are they
gonna be attacking this week? Who's Kelsey's matchup gonna be.
It's gonna be Kyle Hamilton, It's gonna be Rokwan Smith,
it's gonna be Patrick Queen. Like they watching that tape
over again, just acted so fast, like they knew it

(13:38):
was coming from the Texans offense. And they just react
and they pop, and they're athletic and and I think
you win right now only with Rice and Kelsey, and
for the most part that's over.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
The middle of the field.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
So I think the Ravens are uniquely flexible enough to
handle that. I do think for the Chiefs they have
to be encouraged at least that the offensive line on
the interior, especially Creed Humphrey and Trey Smith and Toney
were dominant. I mean, they won them that game. They
made the Bills look like their little playthings, like it

(14:11):
was a college team they were going up against. And
I know Mattabike and and Michael Pierce like they're big
guys up front, and that's a tougher matchup for them.
But that gives you a chance, like if you if
you can play heavy like the Chiefs did last week.
They had six offensive linemen, three tight ends quite a bit,
two tight ends quite a bit. They just played heavy.
I don't think that's a crazy way to try to
play the Ravens. To try to running. It's not easy,

(14:34):
but that to me seems easier than just going back
and throwing.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, I don't think you have Joe Toney in this
game necessarily.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
That is also a big problem. Yeah, that's a big loss.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
That's one of the more that's one of the toughest
linemen in the entire league, and he's been a foundational
piece for them. I really think that when they played
the Bills, part of their success was that you played
a banged up Bills defense and like someone like aj
Klein got completely exposed, right, and the Ravens come in
with Rokwan Smith. You know, the trade last year I

(15:03):
think was one of the best NFL trades of the
last five years. It completely changed their's why we did Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
We need for multiple reasons. It's almost like everyone benefited.
It's almost like that's why we did it.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Last point focus, but as an emergency pod. We were
kind of ahead of it with no we were.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
We absolutely were, and like, but I welcome society, and
so is Patrick Queen also because he I think it
changed someone's career trajectory there, because I think Queen was
sort of trending down. They didn't pick up his fifth
year option, right.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
But I probably is his last few days with the
Ravens here.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
It might be, but the.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
Two of them together have been completely unstoppable, and they
are the second best team in the league against tight ends.
And so if you are this is different than last
week when when Kelsey revived. Looking Kelsey, Now you're going
against a different defense that if you can take Kelsey
out of this, you are putting those Chiefs wide receivers
into a situation where they've got to perform, And I

(15:58):
just don't know if I trust that. It's like the
Chiefs are not have to find a different way to win.
This is a different defense than they played against Buffalo
week ago.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
And you're on the road.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
I don't care about the road things so much with Mahomes,
but it's like this defense has not been broken months
in a row.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Marlon three is also returning to practice. The Weakens would
be the cornerbacks. I mean they're out there throwing Marlon Hunt,
but not against this group of wide receivers. Yeah, that's
all I'd say. So Marlon Humphrey, their best cornerback is returning.
But yeah it's Brandon Stevens, Arthur Malett and Ronald Darby
wasn't even on the team halfway to He's bounced around.
So like if you could buy time in theory, that's
the weakness. But Humphrey, you're returning.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Would be big. That would be big. Also returning would
be big. Mark Andrews so he was a full participant
in practice on Wednesday. He's coming back from that gnarly
ankle injury that's kept him out for a couple of
months now. Very interesting to see if this is a thing,
if he's gonna really have a role in the offense.
I would imagine if he does play, you know, it

(16:57):
would be a limited number of snaps. But as we know,
and as we've been talking about, Isaiah likely has really
stepped up in Andrew's absence and become a playmaker. So
that I mean, it's just the Ravens just come at
you and waves. It's such a deep roster on both
sides of the ball, and I, I don't know, doesn't
have a chance to get going the twenty eight days
later defense, that's what I like the I want to

(17:17):
see this this Baltimore swarming zombie like rage virus infected
defense getting after the Pachenko who runs with those elbows
and knees out. What was the Pacheco said? Though somebody
said he runs like, oh god, I gotta remember this.
He had a really good description of how he runs.

(17:38):
I will think fights, but like he didn't like that.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
I like the one I saw that that he runs
like he's dealing with trauma.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
So so you have the twenty eight days later defense
against the running back who runs with trauma. And what
will Kansas City's offense be able to do against this defense?
Because it's a step up from Buffalo anyone else. You said,
you run like you bite people. M I kind of
like that to switch. By the way, what do they like?
What do the zombies do? That's what they they That's

(18:08):
what they would they would they would do that, they
would bite you.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
The thing that was most surprising last week, though, was
that the Chiefs defense got kind of worked like that
looked like an old school Chiefs defense.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
I know they came up big and they made Buffalo work.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
For these touchdowns and everything, but it was one of
their worst games of the season without going to place.
They they got dominated for the most part for three quarters,
and then they came up with some big plays. So
I'm very curious, like, are they going to be a
little more disciplined, because one thing I saw in that
game was they kept getting past Josh Allen and then
Josh Allen just kept running forward, and like, what is

(18:43):
the worst thing that you can do against Lamar Jackson
is not being disciplined with those rushlings. It happened to
the Texans a couple of times. Lamar just set was
so relaxed. He almost seems like too relaxed. Sometimes back
there he is just chilling. He's just chilling in the pocket,
and then the second East sees it open, he takes.
But for the most part he's just chilling back there.
He's getting great protection from this offensive line, and that's

(19:05):
where I think you saw the two weeks help. Ronnie
Stanley looked healthier. The offensive line in general seems healthier.
They were dominant, and they have to really have a
plan for kind of not getting like rushing Lamar getting
some heat, and they had to make Chris Jones, you know,
on the outside for those big plays because they weren't
getting on the inside against Buffalo, but also not go

(19:27):
past them and not.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Let him run the ball.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
I think they almost have to kind of dare Baltimore
to throw the ball deep, deep, into the outside. And
if he beats you that way, and he had a
number of good throws to the outside last week and
deep and they worked, then maybe you just deal with
it because otherwise, like they will just pick you apart offensively.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
I mean, I also say they survived like an incredible
game by Josh Allen. So yes, Lamar Jackson's gonna have
his moments and they can still survive. They haven't a
left more than twenty seven points in a game all year,
And like I do trust this defense more than any
other Chiefs defense we've seen. And like I guess you're
gonna have to allow Lamar Jackson to have his moments.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
But you got to just try. You got to be
better than you were. I'm putting that up right now.
I'm happy to be stand corrected on this one, but
I'm putting the casey defense in the bucket of all
these other defenses that I was told were great, and
they get lit up in a huge spot. They already
got beat up last week, and then the Ravens. I
would not be surprised that the Ravens have their way.
That said that said, there is the Mahomes component of everything.

(20:36):
Patrick Mahomes, as you may have heard, Mark, played his
first road game, true road game in the playoffs last
week and as you can imagine, a lot of fuel
to the fire to be on the road, to be
an underdog and all that. This is his postgame locker
room comments to his teammates after the big victory in Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Hey, they asked for it, and they got what they
asked for.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
But he said it this day done.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
All right. And with that said, let's welcome in our guest,
because that's of Patrick Mahomes that these guys the great ones,
they're always looking for a new challenge. It's like James
Palmer in his personal life. Uh. And for Patrick Mahomes
right now, it is this idea of being doubted, being
on the road, being viewed as the guy. Let's get

(21:29):
them out of here so we get some fresh blood
in James Palmer. Welcome to the show. How are you, buddy.

Speaker 6 (21:37):
I'm good, guys. I'm glad we're starting with this because
I've gotten a lot of heat on the Twitters and
the exes about this. Patrick Mahomes playing on the road.
If you bring this up, the Chiefs Kingdom will attack you,
like nobody's business.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
What's got the fired up.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
I don't just think of it as a storyline, because this.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Is what I know.

Speaker 6 (21:59):
But this is what they say. Hey, guys. They go, well, oh,
that's Super Bowl in Tampa. That wasn't a road game.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Well that was a home.

Speaker 6 (22:06):
Game for Tampa. I was like, well, well listen, guys,
that went terribly wrong, like your offense could not function.
I was in that stadium. It was half full. I
was in some sort of box with the girl from
Pitch Perfect and the guy from Pitch Perfect was his
name Adam Divine of some sort.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
I think, wow.

Speaker 6 (22:24):
And there were very few of us watching. I don't
I don't understand why they were so angry.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
We don't need to just bringing this, but we don't
need to talk about the COVID Super Bowl. James, like,
the COVID Super Bowl was in the middle of a
global health catastrophe. So let's just throw that out as
an opinion or an example of anything.

Speaker 6 (22:45):
Come on, Yeah, I get the weekend Walls by himself.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
It was weird, Adam divine though, nice hang for you
during a strange Super Bowl event.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
And the difference of one of the many differences, like
at that point, their offensive line is falling up, and
you've been covering this team all year and one reason,
I don't think anyone should have been digging any dirt
on them.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
As rough as the offense has looked.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
It's like, the fact is it's still Mahomes with Andy
Reid and the best defense he's ever had, and their
offensive line playing outstanding. And I guess that was If
you have Mahomes and an offensive line, I don't care
how poorly the rest of the group is playing. They
got to have a chance, like, how has the vibes
been this week and everything around this team in terms

(23:30):
of this challenge, because they got to feel like this
challenge against the Ravens defense is another step up from
the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, and it's great.

Speaker 6 (23:39):
It's a massive step up from the walking wounded they
faced at that game. I was in Buffalo I mean,
this group is far and away different than that Buffalo
group that they figured out a way to put eleven
guys on the field. I think this group is completely different.
If Joe Toney can't play, and talking to people that
I know that are in the know in Kansas City,
it's going to be a long, long stretch for him

(24:00):
to try to go in this game on Sunday. And
I've talked to a number of people that sayd he's
really the guy over the last couple of years that
has made this offense go. If you remember they brought
him in that big free agent contract I think it
was after that game in Tampa we're talking about, and
he's been that mentor to Creed Humphrey and Tray Smith,
the center and the guard on the other side, to
really give them that anchor of the offensive line and

(24:21):
the way that he's kind of run that entire group.
He's really the guy that.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Makes it go.

Speaker 6 (24:25):
So I do think that interior has been a big
part of some of the success that they've struggled through
some of this guys. I do think they've just tried
to help out their offensive line a bunch. I heard
you guys talking about in a number of tight ends
that they've been putting out there. You haven't heard Donovan
Smith's name at the left tackle spots since he's returned
from the neck injury. I think you know, the body
was benefiting from getting off those legs for a couple

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of weeks. He's been a little bit better than he
was during the season, and Wanye Morris was out there
for him. But if he has time, Patrick Mahomes has time,
he's gonna find ways to make plays. I think that's
the part that we're always kind of of bringing up
and specifically in the postseason. It's it's not just this
the scrambling ability, it's he runs more on his own,

(25:06):
like he puts the offense on his back at times.
It's just gonna be and we can talk about it
the matchup of Kelsey if he can get free, and
then it's really him and Rashi Rice and Isaiah Pacheco
that that's kind of their offense. They ran it the
best they did this entire year. They think in Buffalo
it's probably the best game plan Andy Reid thought Matt
Nagy has had this season. But again, it's really kind

(25:27):
of been those three guys. I'm going on here, But
I do want to make this point. They feel like
the offense has been better since Sky Moore and Caadarius
Tony have been injured. Like, no, Lie, it's.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
It's just make and it makes sense.

Speaker 6 (25:41):
They have the receiver spots. Yeah, it's it's better for us. Yeah,
they thought they were playing too many players, honestly, rotating
too many receivers. Nobody was getting in a rhythm, and
that kind of those two injuries happening. They feel like
that's actually benefited the offense.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
All right, So let's go off of that, because right now,
cut to Kansas City, sixty feet below the complex. You've
got Andy Reid surrounded by like six boxes of Chinese
food cooking up some sort of trick play.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
They love to do this on a weekly basis.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Well, right, so, like you're talking about like two players
are better not being part of the offense on some level.
You got your your Kelsey's your obvious guys, what's the
X factor? Like I want you to predict a guy
that we're going to be talking about Sunday night that
we were not expecting last week was MVS. It's like
these guys have been hot and cold all year what's
the trick, what's the happening, what's thee like the secret

(26:31):
sauce individual that they're building around.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
James, before you answer that question, Before you answer that question,
I'm curious since you brought it up, because I didn't
know about this underground bunker. Yeah, the guy that delivers
the Chinese food, does he get access down like an
elevator shaft or is Andy have to go up to?

Speaker 7 (26:46):
No?

Speaker 4 (26:46):
No, that's a middleman, a middleman obviously, who knows you
got codes? You got handprints, an intermediary little option scam.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, good optical scan for Chinese food.
All right.

Speaker 6 (26:56):
I had to take yesterday the elevators weren't working and
I had to take the Taylor Swift path, the underground
path to get to uh, to get to where it
needs to be. So these things are are a big,
big HAPs. I'm not sure if that the delivery guy
and Taylor ever have cross paths down there in the
you know, the secret bunker?

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Have you crossed path but with Taylor through all this, James,
but Taylor.

Speaker 6 (27:20):
Yeah, a number of times I got some free jeans
because of one of my encounters with.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Wow. All right, we're going to get to the X men.
Let's know, ye, no, tell me about him now, Well,
you know.

Speaker 6 (27:35):
If if you, if you are lucky enough to get
to get a primo spot to do the video of Taylor,
which I've done it by accident a couple of times.
I was trying to get Josh Allen and then all
of a sudden she walked by, and then and then
my video goes viral, and then she was wearing a
pair of jeans, and the company hit me up on
the GRAM and was like, hey, can we use your video?

Speaker 2 (27:56):
We want a profile.

Speaker 6 (27:57):
She's wearing our jeans, And I said, uh, sure, I
guess this is the world I'm not a part of.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
I guess in the video.

Speaker 6 (28:04):
And then they said then they said, uh, what what
size are you? We'll send me some cloth. And so
that's that's how this world works, I guess.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, moderately disappointing. So I thought maybe Taylor was the
source of the jeans, but it was the Okay, it's
still cool though. Sure all right now to Mark's uh.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
Well, no, I mean it's you know, you can go
in any direction you want at this point.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
Yeah, yeah, now we've we've derailed Listen, I do think
I don't know if they have that player, Mark, I
really don't. And when you say like a secret sauce,
it might be like what teams have used against them.
I mean, I thought Joe Brady had a brilliant game
plan for what he was working with with the Buffalo Bills,
and it was keeping Patrick Mahomes on the offense off
the field. And that might be something that that the

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Chiefs are looking at in terms of can we control
this game we're seeing we have seen and this is
something in this postseason, guys, I've really been curious about.
Like Patrick is obsessed with Tom, like upset break in
terms of learning from him. It's a big reason why
he wanted the backup quarterback that he has right now

(29:08):
in his building because he just got done working with
Tom Brady. It's just he wants to emulate his game
and can he find ways like we've seen Brady do
in the past in the postseason to where if something's
not there, does he just not care about stats, not
care about anything, and lean on something else. And we
are kind of seeing that, Like he's wanted and encouraged
the staff to lean into Pacheco, to lean into this defense,

(29:29):
to play possession game, all of these different things that
we just haven't heard in Kansas City over the years.
They've just been something you just start going, like a
possession game, like no, like run the ball, like that's
not Andy, that's not Patrick. But that is the way
Mahomes has been thinking in terms of other ways to
find ways to win. And I think that Gene we're

(29:50):
all kind of looking at if that's there, because we're
calling him kind of the next Brady. If that's there
on finding other things to lean on to just win
a game. I think they've had to do that at
times this season, and we'll see if they can find
a formula against Baltimo.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
I gotta say I've seen that.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
I know I've seen Clyde Edwards Hilaire taken out of
mothballs the last couple of weeks and have a little
more juice that I can remember him seeing he's a
couple of weeks away from being a free agent four
years after you know, taking.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Him in the first round, maybe making blitz.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Maybe he'll be the surpris or maybe maybe it's on defense.
I was shocked last week Samari Connor, who I wasn't
familiar with a fourth round rookie showed up and he
made a lot of plays for that defense as as
an injury replacement.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
I was like, man, they did it again.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
They found another mid round guy in the secondary who's
like this is kind of how Lagerius Sneed became a
guy suddenly in the playoffs as a rookie. He was
doing things. And then Jamari Connor was awesome just defensively. Uh,
talking to them this week, like what have they talked
about being the keys because because one thing that it
struck me watching the Ravens game, they made pretty huge

(30:55):
lineup changes that no one really was talking about. Like
Justice Hill just became their starting way more touches. He's
a little bit of a different offense than Gus Edwards
last week.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
And Odell Beckham was benched.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
I know he started the game, but Rashad Bateman kind
of became their second receiver. Nelson Aguilar is the guy
in three receiver sets and Beckham only played about twenty
snaps in that game to forty five for Bateman. I
think they see Bateman having a little higher upside. So
the Ravens actually rolled out some different stuff in their
playoff game what does the Chiefs defense talked about wanting
to stop.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Greg?

Speaker 6 (31:29):
I think it really is, how can you confuse Lamar
pre snap? I mean, and that's really going to be Spags' biggest,
biggest goal, And it's because they have and I've talked
to Trent McDuffie about this, who and this is going
to be a big part of this game. I think
him blitzing from that corner spot. When I talk to
people in Buffalo prepping for that game, they were like,
we think he's the best blitzing corner in football. That's
the way the Bills went about it. And him coming

(31:51):
from that inside, from that slot spot, bringing some extra
pressure might be a part of this game plan. But
the point is, talking with Trent, it's like I play
three positions just and Reid plays three positions. Lagarius Sneed
does that, Willie Gay does that. And if we have
the ability to have these late rotations on Lamar and
we can do it even after the ball is snapped
to where he doesn't know who's playing where and we

(32:14):
can get the ball out of his hands quickly, that
to me seems like they're game plan and there is
some similarities. I'm not gonna say Josh Allen and Lamar
Jackson run the football in the same manner. But they
did feel like some of the things they wanted to
do to Josh Allen they can use against Laar, which
is the way you rush with your lanes upfront, and
if you're gonna bring pressure, you're just eliminating some of
the lanes that he can run through. But if you

(32:35):
can be disciplined upfront, which they weren't in the first
half against Allen, and they made some adjustments and were
in the second half, that you can make sure he
doesn't get out wide and you kind of shut the
pocket in from both this I'm in a tiny box,
so you can't see my hands. You gottaqueeze it in
from the s gets there you get a little tiny Yeah,
now we've taken it wide. If you bring it in

(32:55):
from both sides and you don't let them escape kind
of out wide and you kind of force him up front,
that's kind of the plan they had for Allan. I
would see that being somewhat similar for Lamar as well.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
You saw right through that, James. Actually people don't realize it.
We have the box get four percent smaller every minute
it's a bit of a weird power play. We do it. Yeah,
guess yes, you picked up on it. I like that.
It's like Willie Wonka. Yes, you've said it all, James,
and I will say one more thing before we say goodbye.
You've dealt with some weather stuff the last couple of weeks.
It looks like we got Baltimore. It's gonna be warm,

(33:28):
unseasonably warm, but rainy, so you're gonna get potentially out
of the bitter cold, but you're gonna have to get
that slicker out once more.

Speaker 6 (33:39):
I get the slicker out listen. In Buffalo, that was
like all the talk in the postgame locker room.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
It wasn't like we won.

Speaker 6 (33:44):
It was like everybody on the Chiefs team was like,
what's the temperature in Baltimore? Like that's all the guys
care about that? Can we get out of the frigid temperatures?

Speaker 2 (33:52):
All right? Buddy, Well, thank you so much for stopping
by and giving us the info, and hopefully we'll see
in Vegas in a couple weeks.

Speaker 7 (33:59):
Guys, this is real nice.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
This has been a guest. That hair is going to
stay perfect. James. I love that man. James Palmer Gold
see you guys. Very nice love James JP one of
the good guys.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
Quality head of hair. There's no question the hair. That's
just the way it is.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
You know what, hair respects hair, He's got it. You're
referring to yourself respecting him. Okay, let's let's make the pick.
Let's pick this game. Uh, it's it's for me. It's
the easier of the two games. I think this is
the Ravens moment. I think I think Baltimore, like I said, uh,

(34:41):
survived the whatever butterflies there might have been and any
kind of demons from their early their past with Lamar
in the playoffs by really kind of burying the Texans
in the second half. And I just think their depth
on both sides and the way they swarm on defense
and Lamar just having the that year is what you

(35:02):
need a team like this to take down Mahomes in
the playoffs. And I think Mahomes will be back on
this stage, maybe as soon as next January, but I
think this year he's gonna take a back seat. In fact,
I'm gonna lock up the Baltimore Ravens uh to go
back to the super Bowl. How about you, guys.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
I'm with you. I like the Ravens to win. I
like the Ravens to win by more than three and
a half. I do think it'll be close, though, I mean,
can you just imagine the Chiefs getting blown out? I
guess I just can't do it, like because it never happens.
I know that happened in the Super Bowler Bowl.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Another defense.

Speaker 8 (35:36):
Find other great defense in Tampa Bay that got after
the even like even this regular season where they were
this lesser version and they lost a lot of games,
like all of them were close, except for that one
Broncos game.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Like, I just think they will be in it. I
think they will make the Ravens earn it. There is
something about this Ravens that as the game goes on,
they just get heavier and heavier and stronger. So I
wouldn't surprise me if the Ravens are loose, like heady
into the fourth quarter or something like that, that it's
a tight game, but that the Ravens do pull away.
Let's go low scoring game twenty four to seventeen.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
I think the Joe Toney injury.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
If you point to that Super Bowl, what was the
like the core reason the Kansas City. Yeah, they were
just a different team without without in that case that
we sure tackles, but the two ny injury is huge.
That said, I'm going to go against the grain here
against you guys. I think the Kansas City Chiefs are
not the better team holistically, but I think they have
this something about them where they don't care where they're playing,

(36:33):
they don't care what they're doing. You've got this obsession
with Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes finds a way, whether injured, healthy,
whatever the weather is, to get it done. And I
think they nip the Ravens twenty seven twenty four.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Hey, listen, keep picking against the Ravens. You might be
right one day.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
I mean, I would say, if you're listening to this
and I picked your team to win, you are doomed.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Don't even witness the game.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
I like it though it's a three and a half way.
I don't like it when we're on the same side.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yeah, I just did. I want to go get it.
What camps their respect? I like Baltimore thirty one twenty
That's where I'll go with Ravens.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
By the way, the money line there is minus one two.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
All right, We're gonna take a break and when we
get back. We're going to talk about the other big
game this weekend and hit some big news and the
coaching carousel rankings. All right, we'll be right back, all right,
welcome back. Who it is Championships Sunday this weekend and
we are excited to talk these two big games. Mark

(37:31):
update on the de Giorno front anything? And have you
heard from the ever since we talked about them again
on the last show the Pizza Giant. Did they connect
with you? No?

Speaker 4 (37:41):
Radio silence? I think it's you know, a bit of
a psychological tug of war. Accept that, and so my
move is to stay in, you know, silent and wait
and see what they do.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
But you did hear from a shadowy league figure.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
As I understand, I was told that my attempt to
complain about not receiving product or literally just side money
from the company was out of place because per our
contract us reading these ads.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
There's literally how we get paid. That's what I guess.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
I was out of place, and I apologize, not only
but to okay that individual.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah, no, no, not to You're not wrong, you know why?
Because yes, the money is one thing, but how about
a couple of thes in here? I don't think that
would be so hard A couple. Uh what do they call?
And they what are this? What's their specialty? Mark? What?
I know they have some Well, they have a wide
range of specialties. Just like I'm just asking for one
Toyota grand Highlander. Like I'm not asking for like ten

(38:38):
or or a million dollars, not a sack of money. Right,
you could argue my request is even lesser. One highlander. Right,
that's it anyway, It is time now for the NFC
Game of the Week, presented by Draft Kings. And yes
there's only one game to choose, and it is a
humding on. It's the Detroit Lions. And speaking of the

(38:58):
Detroit Lions, Michigan native Cynthia Freeland will be in in
just a little bit to break down the game and
where she's at headspace wise going into this. They head
now the Lions to Santa Clara. They'll beg bell bottom
to get the forty nine ers. Great. The spread also
stayed right where it was when we talked about it

(39:19):
last or earlier this week. It's the Niners getting seven
the money line minus three forty. So the betting public
seems to feel strongly that the Niners as the number
one seed. We'll carry on here and beat the Lions.
That's it. That's it. I like this Lions, the juice

(39:39):
around this team. I have to say, if you go back,
not even to Week one when they beat the defending
champion Chiefs, if you go back, greg Ee, to Week
eighteen last year when they beat the Packers and Aaron
Rodgers and ended their season, that to me was the beginning,
the true beginning of this kind of rock ride that

(40:01):
the Lions are on now. And they survived a long season,
they navigated their way through the playoffs with two electric
home games, and now I just have a hard time
seeing as much as I think San Francisco is the
better team, Detroit going down easy at this point, not
with this coach and not with what we've learned about
this organization over the last year and a half.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Me and I hope you're right, because it'd be one
of the great football stories we've had since we started.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Imagine the Lions in the super Bowl in two weeks.
What a five that would be.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
And it wouldn't just be Hayd Detroit's back. That would
be a great story. Anyways, it's this particular team and
the way they do it, And I just think they
have to attack San Francisco when the Lions have the ball,
like that's the mismatch. They have to be special. Jared
Goff made a lot of great throws last week, like

(40:52):
he has to be even greater. They won up front
last week. I thought the Packers won up front last week.
They're gonna have to do that again. They're gonna have
to play their best offensive game and just hope that
the defense can make a few plays. But this is
ultimately an offensive team. That's how they've gotten this far.
That's how they're going to get further. And I think

(41:13):
they're gonna look at the edges of San Francisco because
when you watched that game from a week ago Packers
against the forty nine Ers, the Packers threw a lot
of different run schemes at them, kind of like the
Rams do as well, and they mostly worked and they
got a little away from it, and the forty nine
Ers made some adjustments late in the game, but man,

(41:34):
when they threw the ball to the outside on those
pitches to Aaron Jones or they had the swings like
they won basically every single time. A lot of it
was to chase Young's side of the field. It was
a way to kind of stay away from all that
power in the middle of the forty nine ers. And
I think the Lions are very well built to do that.
You have Panee Sewell, who's an All Pro right tackle.
You have Taylor Deck who's a great left tackle. They're

(41:56):
very coordinated in terms of their offensive line. They will
be without Jonah Jackson, which is a huge loss for them.
Their their replacement last week o Ska really struggled, so
that that's a big loss. But can they keep attacking,
especially the run game on the outside and lean into
where their best players are?

Speaker 5 (42:14):
And to me, that's Sewell and that's Gibbs. Can that
combo just come at you over and over again.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
Yes, like they were built when they you know, this
whole operation began. The priority was put on offensive line,
and we're gonna win in a way that you.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Know matches what Detroit's about.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
Jackson out is a big deal, Frank Ragnow is your
center is dealing with an ankle injury, a toe injury,
a knee injury, and a back injury. So even if
he somehow the Crans get in there, he finished the
game though, so he probably, but that I mean, these
guys at this point you're dealing with like there's no
part of your body that's not hurting. But I love
what they did last week. And I know it was

(42:53):
against the Bucks defense. It's a different situation against the Niners.
But they made a statement with a fourteen play seventy
five yard touchdown drive.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
They had two other ten play touchdown drives.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
They had another scoring drive that was sixty five plus
yards long marches keeping the ball out of the hands
of the Niners. And I think they can win by
just simply doing and being who they.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Are, like the way that they were built. Is a
good opponent for the Niners.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
And to me this a little bit, this game is
one where unlike the one we just talked about, it
moves beyond for me, like next gen stats and all
the numbers and all the compiled figures and facts like
the Detroit Lions just feel like this kind of sports
team that you look back on, like baseball teams from
certain teams from the seventies and eighties that captured the city.

(43:40):
We've seen that in football, We've seen it in every sport,
and not to be general about it or you know,
Pine the Sky, but the Lions, to me, it's like
I kind of love the fact that Jared Goff is
just from California, the idea that you're gonna go to
the West Coast and be awed by the fact that
you're playing at a different time in a in a
visiting stadium, and I don't think any of them there.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
He did californ game, like literally it is his home.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
And it's like something about this Lions team feels like
a team of destiny to me, and I I think
that the way that we look at the Bills is
the way I look at Shanahan and the Niners just
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
There.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
There's every reason to think that they're the better team
in multiple levels, but like there is pressure on the
Niners because their postseason journey has been rough and tumble.
Shanahan has this deal, he's he's seven and three in
the playoffs, I believe with the Niners, but they have
lost in big moments and it's like there's just I
think that I could see their butts getting tight if
the Lions hanging around there in that third quarter, early
fourth quarter, I think I.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Like it, Like your passion, Mark, you think about the
game too, because the Lions are this levable underdog within
the context of this game right now, but it's the
Niners are weird in the sense that they are this
goliath right but their quarterback is I don't know if
you heard this, mister irrelevant, Like, I think we're so

(44:56):
used to it now that we're sleeping on The guy
that was the last pick in the draft last year
could be going to the super Bowl if he if
his team has has their way on Sunday against the
first overall pick. Well, yeah, there's that angle of it too,
And it's just like, and I'm not going to be
labor it because I hit it pretty hard last Sunday
and during the week, But it is Perdy, that's the question.

(45:19):
I don't. I don't. I don't feel like the rest
of the San Francisco operation is going to crack under
the pressure. And I'm not even necessarily saying it's it's
pressure with Purdy, but it's just has any doubt crept
into his mind. It's quarterbacking, and really any sport, especially
in quarterbacking, it's so much mental and his confidence allowed
him Greg to soar and become a true MVP candidate

(45:42):
this year. But what happened on Christmas night in Baltimore,
what happened in last week's game for three and a
half quarters? What headspace is the QBN going into this game?
Because now he's playing to go to the damn Super Bowl.
It's a massive stage for a guy that was never
a pristine prospect, has had his issues in recent weeks.

(46:03):
It's a huge, huge responsibility to take a team all
the way to the Bowl.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Yeah, last week was concerning because he wasn't seeing the
field well. To me, he's pretty consistent in who he is.
He's aggressive, he's not a game manager. He's gonna go
for it, and he did last week. Like rewatching it,
it wasn't quite as bad as I remembered, but it
was particularly bad in the in the three drives before
the game winning drive. And there's another world. The Packers
had the ball three times through No you know, party

(46:29):
wouldn't have done anything different. The Packers had the ball
two or three times where they could have put the
game way, and they just didn't. They kept giving them chances,
and then perty did step up. And I do think
that's that should you know mentally, that will help. And
then and then I think it's the rain. The rain
was a factor too, although it was also his decision making,
so you can't just put it on his throne. But look,
he made the right reads in that final matchup. And

(46:52):
as much as you don't think of the Packers as
a good defense, maybe that's even a better matchup because
one thing that I think has been pointed out when
Trent Williams was out, and then I was reminded of
it again last week. It's like this offensive line is
really not that great like the Packers. I thought kind
of one up front on both sides of the ball,
which was really surprising. They have, but they have, but

(47:13):
it kind of makes sense because they have talented players
up front and they just won their matchups. They won
it in the run game and made life hard for
Christian McCaffrey. McCaffrey made some plays, but in terms of
the yards before contact it was extremely low. They weren't
getting much push and they were putting a lot of
pressure on Party and that's what you have to do.
Pretty Fritz is out a little like most quarterbacks. I
know his numbers are good against pressure, but this was

(47:34):
a different sort last week, and I just don't see
the Lions doing that because they're one of the worst
just teams in terms of just front four getting pressure.
Hutchinson is that dude, But otherwise they have to send
a lot of pressure. So it's to me it's gonna
be a very boomer bust defensive approach where they throw
a lot of blitz.

Speaker 5 (47:50):
Is they throw a lot at them, They're willing to
give up some big plays.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
They hope to make some big plays and enforce some
turnovers and hopefully that'll work. And you get Burt if
Debo's in the game, and maybe you don't get if
Debo's not in the game, Well that's.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
A huge So that's so big. And what you know,
like how healthy will Deebo Samuel be? That is we've
they've been so different. I think last week obviously we
know by now the Deebo Samuel was baked heavily into
the game plan. That affected what happened against the Packers
because they had to shift and use different players. If
I'm the Lions, though, Aiden Hutchinson is the one guy
getting sacks, the one guy really making a difference. You

(48:24):
don't want to just station them against Trent Williams snap
after snap, I tried to find a way to move
them around. But this Lions team, with all their ups
and downs on defense, has been good against the run though,
the number two team against the run. They've held fourteen
to nineteen opponents to under one hundred yards on the ground.
They've gone twelve and two in those games. So if
you can find a way to suppress, to nullify Christian

(48:44):
McCaffrey to some extent, and you force brock Perty into
having to make big throws. Right now, the forecast, I
kind of think this matters for party just because of
what we've seen this season. It is suggesting light rain.
That's what they said a week ago too. But like then,
you know you're dealing with an incredible nature is just
erupting on you.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
We'll see, maybe it's sunny. We don't have the latest update.
What's the weather on the weather corner? Yeah, love this
weather corner. Maybe well, we're running out of time, weather,
give us a little drop for weather corner in post
Eric the producer. Right now looks like seventy three seventy
three am clouds pm sun, only a six percent chance

(49:24):
of precipitation. So the small brock hands probably not going
to be an issue. That sounds more like borrow. It's
some change.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
Goff has sort of famously struggled in the rain and
in inclement weather.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
That's true too.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Another small hands guy. I mean, this is this is ridiculous.
That's calling him small hands guy. In the scheme of things,
it's compared to like the average, it's all relative.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
It is all relative. Speaking of Jared Goff, we had.
This is again it's being positioned as David versus Goliath
on some level, but it's not quite that. The Lions
have a lot of big time players. Lines had a
huge year. They're in the NFC title game for a reason.
This is a fun little back and forth between golf
and a reporter. I think something wires get crossed a

(50:06):
little bit here. This was enjoyable.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
Guy's got a lot of got a lot of really
good players, obviously.

Speaker 7 (50:12):
Maybe oh thank you, I said thank you.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Maybe that you though as the superstars, like.

Speaker 7 (50:20):
All right, never mind, I mean guys like same Brown
was first team All Pro.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
So right, so.

Speaker 7 (50:32):
Sorry, continue, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
That's a great way to kind of have some fun. Also,
by the way, show that you're loose like there's Jared.
He's in a different chair of he's ready, he is
ready for this game, but also pointing out, yeah, stop
looking at us like we can't match up on any
level to the mighty San Francisco team. We got studs
on this team, including a first team All Pro at
our offensive line at number one wide receiver. We're ready.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
You're wrong, right, And I think games i've been I
think he's the second best running back in the league
right now, I think And it wasn't even referring to
him like so that's I would get Gibbs as a monster.
Sewell is right there with Trent Williams as like the
best tackles in the NFL. Sam Laporta was second team
All Pro as a freaking rookie.

Speaker 5 (51:18):
It was a really well lang Well made point.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
I think by golf, because they are extremely talented, they're
cohesaid that they've been together well and you mentioned it's
a different golf. You're right, But he's also different on
the field, like he was different in in LA. I
don't think it like they should feel bad about getting
rid of Jared Goff, obviously because of the results, but
also because of the way he's playing. But the way
he's playing now, and you give credit to Ben Johnson,

(51:43):
but you mostly give credit to Jared Goff. He I
think he makes his reads faster. I think gets to
his second and third read faster. I think he buys
time just a little bit better. He's obviously not going
to be Lamar Jackson, but he moves a little better
in the pocket. There were a couple throws last week
where he's back pedaling.

Speaker 6 (51:57):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
They're obviously better against the blitz. That's coaching and that's
Jared Goff. But they're great against the blitz that used
to be as bad thing. And there's more outside throws.
Think of some of his most impressive throws last week.
One of them was like deep into the outside to Reynolds,
another one to Saint Brown, Like that was not something
you saw Jared Goff doing. So he is a legitimately
better quarterback. He is a top ten quarterback, eight quarterback,

(52:19):
whatever you wanna be. Then we when we last saw
him eight right now in many ways, and he has
been for last year.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
I buzzed up against that. I would have to kind
of go through it, but certainly on the fringe of
the top ten, which is again looking where he was
when they Los Angeles dumped him to where he is now.
I want to talk to someone who knows all about
this team. Oh yeah, she knows everything. Yeah, I mean,
but she is a Michigan native who has a chance
to do something that's never happened in her lifetime. I mean,

(52:51):
this person could be one hundred and forty four years
old and it would have never happened in their lifetime
because the lines have never been to the super Bowl.
But now in her Lions T shirt, Cynthia Freeland is
ready for the game of her life as a fan. Cindy,
welcome back to around the NFL.

Speaker 9 (53:09):
Well, let's just hope I don't get the last time.
I don't I don't make any headlines like the last time.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Oh well, don't worry about that. I believe that was
exercise from the show. How are you?

Speaker 9 (53:24):
I'm great. I just got back from Detroit. It was
really special.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
We had Colleen on the show on Wednesday, and she
obviously spent that game with you and said it was
a very special experience to be there with someone that
was It meant that much to them the game, it
meant so much to me. Why did it mean so
much to you as a Michigan native.

Speaker 9 (53:43):
Well number one, I'm the daughter of a General Motors
employee for his entire career, and in no way, like
the whole thing just got blown to shreds. It wasn't great.
It was sad, and you know, especially my dad has
a lot of pride, you know, this GM American muscle
all that, and to see it take this big hit

(54:04):
felt so like very parallel to the Lions having recently
come off an OH to sixteen season. So it was
kind of this like amazing parallel between this like city
and like things were just bad, like it was not
good for a while, and now to see like this
turnaround and to have some hope hope is a terrible
investment thesis, but it's pretty fun.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Very Cynthia there, Wow, you were getting.

Speaker 5 (54:29):
So much, but you had it. You had it.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
You had that moment in Detroit, Like, now does it
feel like it's a little no house money or now
this is the biggest game of your your fan life.

Speaker 9 (54:43):
It feels a little like kind of as it's kind
of both because I wasn't expecting to win two home games,
to have two home games, let alone to win two
home games but it's it feels like there's this opportunity
now and it's like we're please, like Jordan Levin is
a great yet like wait till because this division is

(55:05):
gonna get better, like like let's just like like capitalize
on the moment. So it does feel special. I was
actually talking to some of my friends on the team
that are in like the operations part, and you know,
they're they didn't even already have in place, like what
would happen if they went right? Like so this week
they had to go, like the team had to like
go to Detroit, go to Las Vegas and like pick

(55:27):
the hotel, Like.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Don't even have that. Wow, that's wild.

Speaker 9 (55:31):
But a lot, I mean, to be fair, a lot
of teams, it's not that's not a normal thing. But
like you know, I'm sure Andy Reid has like well let.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Me just com through.

Speaker 9 (55:38):
That's okay, but like you know, some some people don't
have that luxury.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
I want to ask you somebody because like my first
growing up on the East Coast, my first kind of
concept of Michigan and Detroit was that Michael Moore documentary Roger,
which you said, your dad is attached to GM and
it painted a very bleak picture of what was happening
to that part of the country, and it always kind
of colored my thought of what the Lions were and
their fans, and like, this is happening now and you're

(56:04):
you know, you're drenched in analytics and like it's how
you like, it's your point of view through football. But
then something about this Lions team we just talked about it.
It's like there's this inevitable kind of energy around them
and belief in themselves, and like you've got your your
models and how you like would break down a game,
but like, how do you factor in what is happening
with the Lions from like a human energy front into

(56:26):
how you analyze football.

Speaker 9 (56:28):
Well, there's a couple of things. Thank god, I do
all of my coding blind, Like I don't know which.
I mean, I can probably guess if I were to
look into it, but I do it all blind because
that's the only way you can do it. You have
to just you name it weird things that mean nothing
to you. So then that pops out and you're like,
darn it, it's the Niners because they are in terms
of the analytics, they are absolutely the stronger team. They
should be favored, and they're they're all the things that
are in there, but you look at the things that

(56:50):
are recent trends and the fact that the Lions are
able to buck the things that have been wrong for them. So,
for example, this last game, instead of giving up really
deep plays, actually we're pretty vulnerable to the intermediate level
of the middle of their defense. So it's not to
say that it's better, it's just different. And that was
able to give them just enough of a push to
go up ahead of the Bucks and stay there, which

(57:12):
was kind of cool to see them addressing some of
their issues. So the math does support that they're addressing
some of their issues. It's it's this game is not
to what my math says. It's closer than seven points,
but it's not a game. It's not I can't factor
in grit. I mean I literally was the most I
was like the most inappropriate person. I'm fine with this.

(57:33):
I'm happy to get in trouble for it because I
stand by at the after the game was over, I
went down. I just had to see a Dan Campbell
presser in person, and I'm like, in a Lion shirt.
I don't think you're all these like really like very
like serious, really good journalists, like people. Mitch album was there,
and I'm like sitting here like and I'm like, does
anyone want to take a shot with me? Like like

(57:54):
I'm like, I don't care, Like this is cool, like
it's positive, it's you know, like let's just have a
little fun in this room for until he walks in.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
So what was the album? Book? People you talk to in.

Speaker 9 (58:05):
These days with moriar?

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Multiple books?

Speaker 5 (58:07):
Yeah, but I like the.

Speaker 9 (58:08):
World on him. I was like, I'm so happy to
meet you. I'm sorry, but I want to take shots
with somebody. I'm like, I can't find my friends yet.
So he was like, that's great. We should all be
so happy because they were all trying to be serious.
You know, I wasn't gonna ask any questions. I just
wanted to see Dan Campbell's energy album. Sure, yeah, no, No,
he was great. He was great. They were all great
to me. No one was mad at me for saying that.
But it probably just not what you're supposed to do in.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
That Mitch actually texted me is like Cynthia can comport herself.

Speaker 9 (58:34):
With that girl. So lack of professionalism right there.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
So your your study, your models say this is a
close game, but but everything as much as you don't
want it to be. The analytics tells that the Niners
are the team that escapes and gets to Vegas.

Speaker 9 (58:51):
Yeah, I'm not happy about it.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
Like how much is the last four weeks?

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Because that's where I don't think it's as unique as
it feels that, like the Chiefs often suddenly found itself,
or that the Packers suddenly to me looked like they
were they had a chance to win the Super Bowls.

Speaker 5 (59:09):
It feels crazy, but they could have.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Won that game.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
They won the next game, And so how much is it?
Like you you take all the numbers from the season,
but then you just look at like the last three
week because that is how sometimes Super Bowls are decided.

Speaker 9 (59:21):
So my models weight recency a little bit more so
because all of the coaches tend to watch about four
weeks of film heading into games, I overweight the most
recent four weeks of data just a little bit, so
they count as extra if you will, right, So you're
looking at that My bigger problem in this matchup, there's
two things that really stand out are the biggest things

(59:42):
that the lines have to overcome. One, their O line
is banged up, there's no two ways about it. They're
gonna have a backup of the guard position. Yikes, yikes.
And Frank Gragnew is not one hundred percent. He seems
to be doing better, and he's an awesome.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
Guy, like against Armstead who's healthy. Finally, Hargrave ran Law
played well last week against their strength.

Speaker 9 (01:00:00):
That's a problem. The other problem is Jared Goff is
awesome at throwing in breaking routes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:00:07):
We saw Jordan Love show us kind of the formula
to upset the Niners, which is outside of the numbers passes.
That is not what this Lion's team. Doesn't mean they
can't do it. It's just saying it's a lower probability
because we haven't seen them do it as frequently, not
to say they can't, just to say it's harder to
imagine that happening. And then, lastly, the best area of

(01:00:27):
the defense in the back is the middle third of
the back, which is right where those inbreakers go. So
it's just unfortunate that those things again, they could figure
things out. Ben Johnson, those teams that have their grubby
paws all over him.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
Last game, I do love that angle like that to
me is one of the most intriguing things, like Ben
Johnson versus Kyle Shanahan. If you were going to power
rank play callers in the NFL right now, certainly McVeigh
and McDaniel would be in that mix. But this might
be the top two battle of the play callers against
I think could be vulnerable defenses. I know the forty
nine ers have a lot of stars, but to me,

(01:01:03):
everything you're saying about like the Lions defens, I hear that,
and it is like, I'm just like, just outscore them,
just win.

Speaker 5 (01:01:08):
Thirty three to thirty could be the rout I.

Speaker 9 (01:01:11):
Actually do as a So I'm taking my analytics hat
off here for a second and putting my fan hat on.
And I'm actually really glad it's not the Packers, to
be fair, because that Packer team coming into Detroit on Thanksgiving,
that just I understand. You know, I know you your
your gripes with the defensive coordator. We got it, Greg,
like but but you know, like the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
The only show where my.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
Get very annoyed with me no check out debut on Friday.

Speaker 9 (01:01:39):
But but the truth is, there's something about teams that
know each other and it just makes it closer, right
like your Ravens. Think about it. For the Ravens, you
felt like maybe the Browns had a better chance of
knocking them off than perhaps another opponent would. Right, So
because of that knowledge of each other, it just and
and the poetry of the stupid Packers being alliance would
have been terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
You have to worry about it. You're in the on that.
How do you factor in?

Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
Because like I think one thing I love and how
you could make the Niners in a close game late
when they're thinking about their playoff history, uh, you know,
concerned about themselves, like the Dan Campbell aggressive nature of
all things, Like I love that?

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Do you how do you fact I want to come.
I've always said I want.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
To come see whatever is happening like this, you know
motherboard that.

Speaker 5 (01:02:22):
I just want to know what it looks like.

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
Like how do you like enter Dan Campbell's aggressiveness into
your computer system?

Speaker 9 (01:02:28):
Just like that?

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Actually, don't go behind the curtain.

Speaker 9 (01:02:31):
No, No, you can come and you till you want.
You just have to come to my house because I
can't lift all this stuff and bring it elsewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
The incredible amount of their you've.

Speaker 9 (01:02:40):
Moved out of the boudoir, you know, it's not the
the the in fact, the the like the main like
house of the computer still in the boudoir, but the
screens are not.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
It's multiple rooms now. It's going theology's turning into a
robit fortress now, and I'm.

Speaker 9 (01:02:57):
Really just trying to get it as close to the
router as possible and then he can plug it. It's
really not that way. Actually, as we speak, it's cleaning
my house. That's why I had to leave it, and
that's why I came into the office exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
It's just it's basically the entire thing is just a ruma.

Speaker 9 (01:03:13):
The good news about Dan Campbell is that he has
a regular cadence to his aggressive play collar nature, which
means it's not to say we can accurately predict it,
but it's probably likely that they have plays on the
play sheet that there are specifically for certain situations. So
it's less about like he's not like we think of
it as this gamble, like he's rolling it. I don't

(01:03:35):
really think he's rolling the dice as much as it seems.
I think they're planning this ahead of time, they're practicing it,
they have.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
Well, they're telling the refs ahead of time, and the
refs are not comprehending.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Apparently, I don't want.

Speaker 9 (01:03:46):
To talk about that. But it didn't matter, it did
It ended up not matter.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Justice was served in the end, right, baldell. I let's
let's pick the game, and Cynthia, I'm gonna save you
for last, even though I know you now have to
go potentially against the room, but which we shouldn't do. Yeah,
but it's compelling. It's a tough setch for you. Mark
get us going.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
I why I've kept asking these questions about the human conditions,
condition versus technology, Like I have long had a Shanahan,
you know, fascination, and I can't help but root for
the Niners in many situations. But in this situation, not
only am I picking the Lions to win in overtime
thirty four to thirty one, but.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
I'm locking them up. You take it to the bank,
and my lock.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
Record tells you that's that's uh. There's a lot of
viability to that. I'm indued me in last place.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
If this doesn't go your way, you're flirting with going
winless in the playoffs, So we you're due. I'll put
it that way.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
I have chosen from what happens right in here in
the center of the world, like over and over and
serve you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
But it's gonna serve me this time. I know this
is one of these days, though, one of these days.
I do think there is a path here. I think
James Jamison Williams has been getting better every week. Maybe
he gets some big bus like that play where Laporta
is on the outside and a mon Ras on the inside.
Laporte is a weak, healthier I feel like it works
every single time, where laport is essentially like they know
what's coming, the defenses know what coming, they can't stop it,
and that they could keep up. And seven points even

(01:05:11):
does feel like a little too much. But I'm going
head over heart. It's a rare case where I'm rooting
hard against the Lions, but I am locking up the
forty nine ers because I believe that's what's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Interesting, you're rooting for the Lions. Absolutely, you're locking the Niners.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
Yeah, yeah, I'm rooting against my own rooting interest right now.

Speaker 5 (01:05:30):
I do believe they're the safest pick of the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
And I'll say the same thing. I want the Lions
to win, thank you. I want people like Cynthia. I
want Cynthia I appreciate, and I want Parry Sanders to
be happy. And I want Marshall Mathers to be happy.
I want Kirk Gibson to be happy, Alan Trammel, Bu Whittaker.
I want everyone connected to Michigan sports to be happy.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
Leiah Coca Leya Coca. Isn't that Sue's best friend? I
don't know who he's best friends with anyway. But however,
what about Big Sean, Big Sean?

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
No, he doesn't need it, Big Sean, I can't give
him the love that he wants.

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
Big Sean's been on Dan's radar that I got a.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Big issue with Big Sean standing on the shoulder of
giants put it that way. But that's a whole other conversation.
It is.

Speaker 9 (01:06:13):
What about Bob Seeger love seg Okay, yes, just make
sure against the wind YEP that's what we're gonna have
to do.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
What a Heartland rocker that Sieger is? That said I'm
gonna pick the Niners. And as much as I do
have reservations about Purdy, I'm nervous about this game. I
can't go off on Purdy and then not have the
same reservations about GoF who can get cooked up by
a defense and start making some funky decisions himself. And

(01:06:41):
because of that, I do think San Francisco is just
the better team. I don't know if they cover, but
I think they win. Let's go, Let's go twenty seven
to twenty. You know, Campbell do some crazy shenanigans with
a two point conversions, so we'll make the score weird.
Twenty seven to twenty five. Niners to the Bowl.

Speaker 9 (01:06:58):
Okay, all right, So while I told you that, look,
any good analytics professional will tell you the math gives
a five point win to the Niners. However, sometimes, much
like the Eagles at the end of the Super Bowl,
you have to take the low probability play. And there
is no way on God's green Earth that I am
going to have any audio or video of me ever

(01:07:19):
not picking my lines in this situation. God knows that
we won't be back here very It's not it's not
a sure thing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
This is your time, this is your moment.

Speaker 9 (01:07:28):
Sypia upset Lions twenty seven twenty six.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Love it. You're gonna go. You're gonna get home, and
all your doors, the locks will be changed. The lights
don't work.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
I feel like this is like the script of a
romantic comedy or something. At the very end, she after years,
she finally goes against the model. Right as she's like
a matrimony. She found her guy. It also is coming
for together.

Speaker 9 (01:07:51):
Hey, listen, you want to know the weird connections here?
Are you ready?

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Okay?

Speaker 9 (01:07:55):
Number one, I stayed in the hotel at the Renaissance Center,
which is where my dad worked. That's where GM's headquartered,
right on Center this week. Number two, my first marathon
was in Detroit. You know who was in town that weekend,
The Tampa Bay Bucks. I ate a sausage with tailgaters
before the Bucks game after my marathon. That was my
very first marathon.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Number two.

Speaker 9 (01:08:15):
Number three, I get my dog Gordy. How Gordy introduces
me to my fiance. Gordy did so. It's all about
Detroit sports. That's really all that matters.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
I love it.

Speaker 9 (01:08:27):
I've been to that. I went to that two thousand
and four when the the upstart, the Pistons who didn't
have like one star, they had like a few Rip
Hamilton with the with the thing on his face, you know,
the whole to and you know who they beat They
beat the Lake Show exactly, and I was there. So
sometimes Michigan gets the best of California.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Yeah, the flashy playboys from California will tick a dirt nap. Yeah,
you know, I'm from a coal town.

Speaker 9 (01:08:53):
I oh, you'll get there next. What I can't imagine
what's going to happen when the Jets are in this position?

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Yeah, weekend? Tell me? Tell me? What would I think?
It would be a human victory for all of us.

Speaker 9 (01:09:06):
You're gonna cry. I mean, I'm telling you. I most certainly.
I was like, is this for real?

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
That's why I am. I'm really I'm hoping. I'm hoping
Cynthias that it happens. Okay, I'm hoping it happened.

Speaker 9 (01:09:17):
I know people literally it was so funny in this
bar that we're in. It's so loud, and people were
walking in with Bucks jerseys on and and Michigan. This
is this is who Lions fans are. For the first second,
they're like, boo okay, you want to beer? Boo okay,
what I want to beer? Anyone?

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Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
The crown is yours, Cynthia. Do you want to stick
around to do a little news before we go? You
know it all right? By the way, check out, let's
check in on the lock standings. By the way. Oh
why why should we just where we're at? Oh? The
Westling brothers, they're holding tight for second place. Look at Rosenthal,
she's stealing with this on a weekly basis.

Speaker 9 (01:10:05):
Does he have that smug little picture with a little
crown in this show?

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Now that's oh god, that's how many graphics do you have.

Speaker 5 (01:10:11):
Of he's got out? He's got this PM Eastern work.

Speaker 9 (01:10:17):
He's got this smug little headugine and then it has
this little tiny this has this little tiny crown that comes.

Speaker 5 (01:10:23):
And you just look like, I don't crown.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
I can't imagine that would be back to back back.
Can we say, let's see the second half standings too
while we're here? Oh wow, you created these? Well look
at the trophy too. You gotta check this out. Is
on the fashund That's an impressive trophy.

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
Just to let you know, by the way, I like
you're looking at my score thinking this person doesn't belong
in the building, But like.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Here a the standing the best doucer and Greg tied
at seven and two. The second half title Wesling. Let
me get through the podcast the Westling Brothers. They don't
even get the right spelling on their last name anymore.
They're four and five and Sesta three and six. The
reverse show Himan at three and six.

Speaker 9 (01:11:01):
He's just waiting.

Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
I am ready to pounce when the time is right,
which could be two seasons.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Yeah pounds. Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
It's funny because someone a birdie from the NFL research
department contacted me during that because you had said second
half standard since week nine, and they pointed out that
you were two games behind since week nine, so you
you've adjusted even the cuttings.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Wait what that he was actually two games behind?

Speaker 5 (01:11:26):
He is, But someone was like, like, to be fair,
he had said after week and actually your two games up.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Since they reached out you out of pocket.

Speaker 5 (01:11:36):
They just came not really my sources, but uh.

Speaker 9 (01:11:41):
They reached out.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Told to me it wasn't really the NFL reason. This
is what well, this is what you need to know.
I mean, if I said week nine that I misspoke.

Speaker 5 (01:11:47):
It is at the midway, second half of that season.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
No, the season with the trust me, I have this
all figured out, the regular season plus the playoffs twenty two. Okay,
that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
Congrats to the Bears they won the NFC North and
Raiders are your AFC West champions.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
It's not gonna work well with Greg on this. He's
not gonna You have no idea how well it's working.
It's driving him. All right, let's get to the news. Uh,
Cynthia a lot going on, a lot. All right, let's
take a break and then we'll hit the news. D

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welcome back. It is the AFC NFC Championship game preview.
See they're used to it, you're not. We just went
through both games, picked both games, and we're excited to
watch how it all unfolds. But with Cynthia Freeland still
in the house, she went against the machine. Just like

(01:12:45):
just like Rocky went against Drago, Casparov went against the robit,
Cindy goes against her own machine picking the Lions.

Speaker 9 (01:12:54):
I sometimes you got to take the lower probability outcome, buddy,
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
I'm just saying that Adan's not gonna be happy. That's
when you get home. The machine will let you know.
I picture various highly dangerous circumstances involving cutlery, and you know,
all of a sudden, a meat cleaver goes flying by.
I've your machine has those like in the cartoons of
the metal tubes with the hands that can do things.

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
Right the final twenty minutes of like two thousand and
one Space Odyssey where like the entire operation turns against
you rental apartment.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
So yep, they'll be careful. I'm just saying, head on
a swivel. Let's get to the news, and we'll start
with the big one. Obviously, Jim Harbaugh is indeed coming
back to the NFL. How about that the Los Angeles Chargers,
And I got to give the Charges a little bit
of credit here, Cynthia, because everything I've been led to

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believe about the Charges is that in the end they're
gonna cut a corner and they're not gonna go all
in and and and they'll just continue to exist as
an organization. But this to me, Cynthia, this move the're
bringing Jim Harbaugh a deal for five years, according to reports,
kind of completely reframes this organization. And with Justin Herbert

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in place maybe a bright tomorrow.

Speaker 9 (01:14:11):
Yeah, there's a few things that I really like about this.
But I have to give a nice little shout out
to the Chargers social because that whole like evoking like
signs of like the pope, them picking new pope was
really funny.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
So coming from the coming that.

Speaker 9 (01:14:25):
Was really good. That was really good.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
They're feeling themselves.

Speaker 9 (01:14:27):
As they should. Yes, I mean I feel not that
it was a foregone conclusion. I think they went through
the process and they did the things that they needed
to do to make sure and vet that this was
the right choice. But I feel like this was their
goal all along and they wanted to kind of make
sure they were doing the right thing. To me, this
is a huge difference maker. I think Justin Herbert will

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now have some stability. A five year contract is hopefully
a long time. I mean we don't we know that
sometimes that hasn't worked out in the past, But in
this case, I believe them that they're going to give
him a nice long leash in order to hire the
right people do what he needs to do. And I
think that they probably feel like, you know, look, we
know that Patrick Mahomes is still in this division, but

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there are some opportunities here, especially with the Raiders are
still confusing. The Broncos are pretty confusing. I think that
they're like, Okay, we you know, just get into the
to the dance. Doesn't necessarily mean we need to always win,
but get into the dance, and this gives them the
best opportunity to do so.

Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
I think it's it's going to be really interesting to
watch the team building side of this because we we're
gonna get the Harbaugh offense, and that's their tight end
room is gonna change vastly, Like they're gonna want to
be big sets, heavy sets, and like their running back
room is going to change. And it's like, I think
what Justin Herbert has been asked to do through multiple

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play callers is going to change a lot. And I
think that the relationship between Justin Herbert and the coaching
staff for years has been a big problem here and
that changes entirely now. They are two totally different personalities
based on what little we know about Justin Herbert, what
we do know about Jim Harbor. My question always with
Harbaugh is like, cool, everyone's super excited right now.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
You know, when we when we started the show.

Speaker 4 (01:16:10):
Harbaugh was, you know, phasing out of the Niners, and
by the time he left, people weren't that unhappy to
see him go, Like it came and went, and that's fine,
that's NFL coaching.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
But it's like, where will we be three years from now?
That's all.

Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
That's my only concern with the Harball experience a little bit.
But otherwise, the Chargers have an identity.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
The people he did. He did.

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
The people that weren't happy to see him go, though,
I think were primarily his general manager Trent Balk and
his boss Jed York, like where he got into these
battles with them. I don't think the players were, like
maybe they they got sick of it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
What he went after.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
But it's just hard to argue with the guy that's
been successful literally everywhere that there's there's no exception to
him hitting like a home run essentially in every single spot,
and it's always with quarterbacks. As a justin Herbert fan,
I'm really excited even if he brings in Greg Roman,
and it's like, I don't love Greg Roman if he's

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the play caller, but maybe he'll have a different role.
And then you think about, well, Greg Roman was the
coordinator with Alex Smith, who's very different than Colin Kaepernick,
and they turned Alex Smith's career around, like Alex Smith
had that game against the Saints with Greg Roman and Harborton.

Speaker 5 (01:17:19):
So I just gotta if he brings to Joe Berry right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
Give some credence. Pep Hamilton's available. Does he have a
history with Joe Berry?

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
I'm just David Shaw's around. No, then I won't be
happy a gero. Everro all of those guys have coached
with Harbaugh before, and so you have to assume he
is getting personnel say and or control will be involved
in the GM higher, so that it's all something to watch.
But in a way that even though they have Herbert,

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I still think Harbaugh will break through in a bigger
way here in Los Angeles and it'll be really great
for them just as a as an organization.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
The Home Run Higher, it's a no brainer. It's when
we started the NFL, That's when he came in in
twenty eleven, during the lockout season, we went through his
whole career. He disappears now he's back. I just feel
like football is a weirder, more interesting place with Jim
Harbaugh back in the NFL. I'm excited. You know who
else is excited? This is one of the best missives

(01:18:21):
I've ever seen released in terms of the passion jumping
off the page. Here's Dean Spanos, who you know, we
heard a lot of passionate Spanos. Jim Harbaugh is football
personified and I can think of no one better to
lead the Chargers forward. The son of a coach, brother
of a coach, and father of a coach, who himself

(01:18:42):
was coached by names like schem, Beckler and Ditka. For
the past two decades, Jim has led hundreds of men
to success everywhere he's been as their coach. Stylized he
I tal on there. Good job by Dean, and today
Jim Harbaugh returns to the Chargers. This time is our
coach who has better than us. He is excited. What

(01:19:05):
am not for that? Of course the old Harba.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Can I just sound am one for Michigan sports. It's
kind of lost in the shuffle that most of these lines,
a lot of these Lions fans are Michigan fans too,
and they got a title there and they got to
be very happy that Minnesota and Denver weren't interested in
Jim Harbaugh over the last two years. Then it also
lost the time. I think that made it work. I'm
just saying, but they got their title, they got that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
Well.

Speaker 9 (01:19:26):
The one thing I will point out is if Jim Harbaugh,
what we see how he's evolved as a coach over
these years at Michigan, I will say it's probably even
not as evident for us what he is capable of doing,
because all of the time that you have to spend
recruiting your guys and then keeping them and then making
sure they're happy going to go in the transfer portal,

(01:19:47):
and then making sure that they get paid enough for this,
and I like all of that's now taken off bye bye.
I would hate that would be really hard to be
a head coach.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Well, that job changed during his time, and he was
ready to go for a couple of years, and now
finally it lined up.

Speaker 9 (01:20:02):
Now actually devoting his time to coaching, we'll probably see
even more of how he's evolved than we would have.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
Tough spot for Antonio Pierce. You got Sean Payton, Jim Harbaugh,
and Andy Reid twice.

Speaker 9 (01:20:13):
I love Antonio. I will, I will, I will punch
anyone for I don't know. I won't actually punch anyone,
but I will go to the map for him, because yes,
I'll pop sham paper. No, he's he's a really great leader,
really great leader. I've known him for a long time.
He's like those guys will run through a wall for him.
And it's not even a joke.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
You could tell that. I mean they changed dam invention.
All right, Another big hire here. The Panthers are expected
to hire Bucks offensive coordinator Dave Canalis.

Speaker 9 (01:20:42):
Callas Canalis, not like so hard with the A, but
like canals Canals.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
Canal, it's actually Canalos. Dave. I'm gonna say, Dave, you
say his last Nallie. Dave can Alice is the new
head coach of the Panthers. Uh. He is formerly of
the Buccaneers, the offensive coordinator. There. Rap sheet had this
on Thursday, like the higher Cynthia because of it makes sense, right,

(01:21:15):
He's a guy that's respected. He got Baker coached up
and turned him into someone that thinks faster, plays faster,
and that's what Bryce Young needs to do. Right.

Speaker 9 (01:21:25):
Yeah, I mean here's the thing. He doesn't have a
long track on.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Dave, just begin to make she's just begun to make
her point.

Speaker 9 (01:21:33):
She did, he said one year as an OC. I
don't have a huge lengthy track record for him, So
there's a little bit more of unknown here. And the
unknown factor he did figure out. I know that Todd
Bowles like was banging his head against the while trying
to figure out a run game for like several years now,
and he figured out maybe it's short passes to running back,
but that's still is a proxy for a run game.

(01:21:55):
So he's had some things to figure out and some
challenges to work through. This to me, will will really
be dictated by who else he hires. Is he going
to surround Bryce Young with the talent that like so
you saw last year in Texas for the Texans they
had Gerad Johnson, who was this you know he came
from Atale eleven. He was a quarterback himself. He was
there specifically to work with C. J. Stroud. You saw

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Bobby Slowick, he had a whole game. So it will
really sure. I'm sure he could be great and he's
had a just doesn't have the track record where I
can feel so so wonderful about it. It will depend
on the hires and who he surrounds.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
It's a meteoric rise. He was just a QB coach,
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, Attal and even then didn't
have a ton of experience doing that and did a
great job with Gino. And you can see some similarities
between Geno and and Baker in terms of getting the
ball out quicker an offense that all made sense. It's
kind of crazy though, because Bucks fans were they were
unhappy with Canalis for a large part of this season,

(01:22:50):
and I think maybe the expectations were too high, but
I think it was like play sequencing that that's something
like a lot of good plays but a lot of
early down runs that just weren't working.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
They just stuck.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
They stuck with it. They stuck with it, and eventually
it got to the point where it was like okay
instead of just being bad. And then you go from
that and they were frustrated as late as like week
eighteen in that game where and I think that's unfair.
They did well with the talent that they have to
having a couple of big playoff games, and he certainly
must have won them over in the interview room because
they interviewed everyone, and his track record was less than

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some and they go with an in house guy's GM
and Dan Morgan and Dave Canao. So it's a little
different than maybe we were expecting. But the whole point
was he must have convinced them he's the right guy
for bright youung. That was all they really cared about,
and that's what he sold them.

Speaker 4 (01:23:36):
Well, I think it like, yeah, you like you did
this with Gino Smith, he did this with Baker Mayfield,
two guys that were on the out career wise. I
don't know this organization stands out to me other than
others because it's just like, cool, you took the job.
But I think other candidates would have looked a little
sideways at the ownership, the whole structure there, the way
that things have happened, and so what is his power structure?

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
How much?

Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
And you know, part of it is you have to,
like you said, you have to convince ownership that you
can bring the right staff.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
I don't even know if that conversation happened. We don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
You know, what's inddressing is he worked with Dan Morgan
for seven years. I didn't eve think about that because
he was a receivers coach, forever in Seattle and Dan
Morgan was in Seattle in the front office, so they
have a working relationship. That's what it comes down. And
sometimes like just people that you've worked to.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
Get gress well.

Speaker 9 (01:24:19):
I will say the thing about Dan Morgan that's interesting
is despite not doing TV, he has a John Lynch
like personality. If I had to like say, kind of
what he acts like like former player, really good communicator.
I got a chance to talk to him pretty extensively,
So great communicator, understands kind of what they're looking for.
So in that regard, I think the communication will be great.

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But again, to me, this comes down to who's your OC,
who's your DC, who are you, how are you, what's
going on with your old line? Because that wasn't great
last year, that old line, and that's going to be
like even details like that they matter a ton. So
and it also shows you that this year offensive coaches
are are what people are looking for. High demand offensive
coaches because the fact that Mike Vrabel's out there without

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a job and a guy with no track record getting
one because he's known as an offensive mind. That shows
you something, right, It gives us some information on how
how that that works.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
What do you like?

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
Because so he became an OC and he's calling his
own place, and there's a lot of narrative around like
when you have to do that for the first time
in a season or in a game, or in a
critical moment in a game, it's like your head is
spinning and that comes to experience. Like but for him
to go from where he was a couple of years
ago to be now the head coach and forget all
the personality business, but like, just to manage a game
like that leap to me, seems there's no proof he

(01:25:36):
can do that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
The biggest concern is to me and Morgan might be
a Lynch type and be a good leader and have
a good nose for talent, and this guy might work.
But the guy they're answering to, there's man if I'm Dave,
no canalis Uh, first call I'm making before I take
the job is like Frank Reich, like what so what

(01:25:57):
am I getting into here? Like You're not do That's
what I would do.

Speaker 9 (01:26:02):
I'm saying, why are you looking for negative things?

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
I guess I got to be a realist.

Speaker 9 (01:26:06):
And I would call anyone who works for David Tepper's
hedge fund and be like, how did you make so
much money? Because that's gonna be what he wants to
talk to me about, is whatever that translates to, because
I need to figure out how to speak his language.
Because this guy isn't like a lot of the other
I'm just saying, is a billionaire.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
There's only there's only thirty two of these jobs, so
we shouldn't be surprised that, you know, Canalis or anybody else.

Speaker 9 (01:26:28):
You've pert you nailed it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
Is jumping is jumping toward it. I would just be
very very nervous anybody that organization.

Speaker 9 (01:26:37):
Better not to know, Like maybe maybe it's better not.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
To waste to look at it like Frank, which.

Speaker 9 (01:26:42):
Had come off of an exit very recently, so maybe
it's better not to be like, Hey, this is all
new to me, this will be fun.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
Why not this guy's gonna ruin my life.

Speaker 9 (01:26:52):
It's not going to ruin it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
It's like a little heads up by the way.

Speaker 4 (01:26:55):
You you get paid if you don't make it through
a year or two any but the dream.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Is to be a head coach. I would just say,
if I've never been a head coach before, you never know.

Speaker 9 (01:27:04):
To get south to you, and that is a very.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
Entering a healthy situation.

Speaker 9 (01:27:09):
Think about it. Okay, well go get therapy. I mean
we all do. We don't necessarily work at the healthiest place.
I go to therapy every week, Like let's just go
with that. So but but look like better help, better
help ye one option one option A great A great one.
Actually I really like better help. But the reality is is,
you know, you're in the NFC South. People get pretty

(01:27:29):
happy when you get w's. So if you you're in
a thing, I hear all that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
I think it's.

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
That's really like kind of overlooked in the like it's
tough for any human to not take a one thousand if.

Speaker 9 (01:27:44):
You wanted to hire as your as your general manager.
Heck yeah, like I mean, but also like roll the dice,
like have faith in yourself, especially in a division that's
did anyone really want to win that division this year?
I mean the Bucks made it far like it just
felt like we were kind of like this one. No
one thought that that was going to happen. So that's
a good spot to be in.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
I hope. Listen, if you have one of the thirty
two chairs, it's a good spot.

Speaker 9 (01:28:08):
If you have one of the thirty two chairs in
a down division. It's even better spot some you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
Know, some coaches. Quiet is for real. But yeah, some
coaches I would imagine out there would passing this job
for the reasons that I'm illustrating we're pointing out. Sure,
but not Dave. Though not speaking of Dave, I won't
say who it was, but just threw that name out there,
but someone that works in the newsroom that's known to
be a Panthers fan historically. One year his favorite team

(01:28:34):
went to the Super Bowl. I'm not going to say
who my sources, but he had a bottle of champagne
and the night ended after a Carolina loss in Super
Bowl fifty with him sitting alone in a hot tub
with a bottle of champagne, and his girlfriend left him
shortly thereafter. It's on brand all that is just to

(01:28:54):
say person. That's so I won't say because I don't
reveal my sources.

Speaker 3 (01:28:58):
I mean, he's also been a multiple time guest of
the show, so right, listen, please show please.

Speaker 9 (01:29:03):
I didn't hear about that, though, I have to figure
it out.

Speaker 5 (01:29:05):
Though he didn't mean you I mentioned left him that night.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
I don't recall that. Yeah, hend that time. Maybe I'm conflating.

Speaker 9 (01:29:12):
I don't want someone that's going to be with me
when things are down. Let me know, fine, whatever kick
me when I'm down makes it easier with this good call.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
Tempted In coming back, this person texted me Panthers now
have a sneaky hot HC and Dave Canalis he is hot?
U m dash analyis I don't I'm gonna be as
with you?

Speaker 9 (01:29:28):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
He is.

Speaker 4 (01:29:29):
But you know what I've noticed, like the nice now
like unattractive dumpy head coaches are not being hired as
head coaches anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
That Wayne Fonx isn't getting hired anymore. They're being dismissed
not to go after Wayne, but you know.

Speaker 9 (01:29:42):
You just leave him alone this way out of this.

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
That's a good uh connection, because I believe was canallics
I know is Mexican American, so he's one of the
first Latino had coaches in the history of the sport.
And Wayne Fonce isn't he as well?

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
My crazy I don't know, man, We're gonna to check
out the old family tree on that one. Let's move on.
Vic Fangio is playing a little hot potato because he
is now going from Miami, where he is out as
their DC is now locked in. Is it official yet?

Speaker 5 (01:30:16):
But he's the If it's not, the reporting is yes, okay,
so happening.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
Yeah, So there you go, Fangio, who is a well
known figure in this realm. Remember we were throwing flowers
at the feet of the Dolphins for getting Fangio with you.

Speaker 9 (01:30:33):
Whoever gets that job, give him to someone without less experience.
That's a good defense. They got a lot of pieces there.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
So Vic, it didn't work out Miami. But Philly's like,
you got to be better than our last guy and
the other guy that we booted upstairs but kept the
camera on him. He humiliated the guy for a couple
of months. Anyway, Fangio to Philly thoughts, it's unique that
it happened this late. I want to know the backstory.

Speaker 3 (01:30:59):
My guy tells me that Vic vondiode, and I know
there's all these reports that he wasn't getting along with
some of the players, and I don't know if there
was any conflict with the coaching stuff all that. Like,
I believe all that, but I still am guessing because
of the timing and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
It's like he just.

Speaker 3 (01:31:14):
Wanted to go to Philadelphia and he got his way,
and he got his way out and that and they
wanted to hire him last year. They would have hired
him last year if not for this whole confusing setup
that they couldn't hire him because he had come in
for the Super Bowl and they had to do all
the interview. It was all this stuff with Jonathan gand
and they lost the draft pick because of it. And
so I think his family's in Pennsylvania too. He wanted

(01:31:36):
to be closer to that, And I think it was
just a rare case of a guy kind of forcing
his way out and getting to where he wanted to go.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
And it's good for the Eagles.

Speaker 4 (01:31:43):
Yeah, it came so close to happening before, and that's
what he wanted. And it's like you kind of look
back at like the earlier week cleaning out of everyone
in Philadelphia. They must have known, like this is, we've
got this guy in our back pocket and he's proven.
I would say, you're also walking into a situation where
if things go south on Nick Sirianni, you know over
the first couple of months next year, it's like, all right,

(01:32:06):
we'll see how long that coaching stuff lasts.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
But I mean fit found you at this age, Go
do what you want to do. He could be the
UH interim coaching by October. You never know.

Speaker 9 (01:32:15):
When I look at this, I think Mike McDaniel's kind
of reshaping and retooling. He's not the only person to
exit Miami right now. So if you're not happy, don't
force someone to be there. You know, like, like, it's
not like he's going to be.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
Like he never seems happy, right Mark, You've had nice interest.
I wouldn't belabored, I said.

Speaker 4 (01:32:36):
I told him that, like when the Niners went to
the Super Bowl, you have these like rooms where you
go in interview and they's sitting alone at a table,
and I thought, well, there's no one else there. I
can talk to the defensive coordinator. And I know this
is not holistically who he is. But he couldn't have
been grumpier or more agitated that I had sat down
to visit with him and wanted me gone as quickly
as a human could be gone.

Speaker 9 (01:32:55):
So I was like, ask him if it was a
must win game.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
I well, I did not.

Speaker 4 (01:32:58):
I asked, you know, I asked pertinent question, one pertinent question.
So this is not working out, and like I don't
want to force the remate a journalistic decision to I
mean to pursue, you know, someone else and move away
from mister sunshine.

Speaker 3 (01:33:10):
Yeah, sovon Davon Holland their safety. There was a bunch
of little social media posts from Dolphins players seeming to celebrate,
not as much as the Bucks did, where they did
like a dance that their coach got fired before the game,
which I've never seen that in sports.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
That was amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
Wednesday night, Uh, Javon Holland did a video where he
kicked rocks and uh, which is like go kick rocks.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
Uh fo.

Speaker 3 (01:33:33):
But in case anyone didn't understand it his to get
that guy like his dad is coaching his dad, who's
a coach, Like retweeted and said everyone loves the iPhone,
but no one wants the iPhone one point zero hashtag upgrade.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
It was like whoa they did?

Speaker 3 (01:33:49):
They were in fans hold on no fond Joe, But
uh as a good coach and I think they did
a good job defensively this year.

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
Little some red flags there by the way.

Speaker 9 (01:33:56):
But but if it's not working, I think it's smart
to cut ties fast, right, you know, like like let
him go it seems like a win win here. He
seems to be happier and more near his family paying
a higher tax bracket than they're happier down there figuring
out someone new, this is a really attractive job if
I'm a young defensive coordinator or someone that's like maybe

(01:34:18):
like on my way up that this, I'm like, somebody
get me to Miami. Like that's a great that's a
great job. You have really great assets on that team.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
Finally, in the news, here we go, what is it?
Congratulations Greg for all your moral grand style grand standing
when we talk about the hot butts and all pious
always getting on me for celebrating guys losing their job.
Joe Berry is out kind Bay. So there you go.
Do do a little dance, Greggie, you got the DC canned.

Speaker 3 (01:34:49):
I'm hardly a unique on the island that they uniquely.

Speaker 9 (01:34:54):
You've you've called for everyone's head who's gotten fired this year.
I've on game deview you have you're you're like.

Speaker 5 (01:35:01):
About calling for you talk about criticized, you.

Speaker 9 (01:35:04):
Talk about that standing for.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
For the lock of the week, his personality, you know what.

Speaker 9 (01:35:09):
His standing for. He's one hundred percent on this guy's getting.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
Cant wow, Greg, what's more predictions?

Speaker 9 (01:35:14):
Your predictions?

Speaker 5 (01:35:15):
You can seen this coming from for Joe Barry.

Speaker 2 (01:35:17):
That's not the way she put it. You called for
heads to wow anyway, Joe Barry is out just a
human man. Let's bring this. Let's bring this everybody.

Speaker 9 (01:35:28):
I want to know what gy your out standers doing there, like,
like I think there's a couple of things here, Like
we'll see if they can.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
Get I say, make him the DC.

Speaker 9 (01:35:35):
Wouldn't it be great?

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
What I do?

Speaker 6 (01:35:39):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
Cynthia, you're a gem. Good luck to you this weekend.
What's your fans? You work in the game? What? Uh?
You know?

Speaker 9 (01:35:46):
I'm going to watch from home. I need my emotional
support dog with me at all times, not the dog
with you, and I will not have any social media
on This is very nice.

Speaker 4 (01:35:57):
So you're recently engaged in and so does your partner
he is he.

Speaker 9 (01:36:02):
Not a linesman, he's from New Jersey.

Speaker 4 (01:36:05):
Do you do you want him in your realm when
this is happening or do you just have to do
this on your own?

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
It's a dangerous place to be. Maybe.

Speaker 9 (01:36:11):
Well he's pretty supportive about it. He's like very chill.
So he's got a nicer. Yeah, he's like surfer but
like also a banker. It's kind of a strange mixed
surf and banker. Surfer, banker, banker, you know. And so
he's kind also a crime fighter at night, yes, also,
but he goes about it early, so you have to
fight crime like between the hours of like five to

(01:36:32):
seven because he works.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
Sure, a dusk crime fighter.

Speaker 9 (01:36:34):
Dusk crime fighter.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
That really where all the crime goes down in the
big city. Yes, all right, well enjoy that. And like
I said, head on swivel with the rumba coming to
get me. We'll be back on Sunday. It is the
big one. It is Championship Sunday. So we'll recap those
games and until then, you know what you gotta do.

(01:36:58):
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