Calls of the Year and Super Bowl LVIII with Baldy

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Around the NFL podcast, otherwise known as Connie Fox
and the Bozo Brigade.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
In the Chris Westling podcast studio, it is Around the NFL.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
I'm Dan Hansis.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
I got heroes, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler, and yes, the
aforementioned Colleen Wolf leader of the Bozo Brigade.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
I'm a bozo too, So like that's fine.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
That's camaraderie and we're all bozos together.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
It is super Bowl Week. It's official. Yeah, and we
could say that again after Greg went pretty deep in
the whole. Financially, it's got many mentions in Twitter that
we didn't catch everything. Eric, you might have to funnel
those misses onto your account. I think that's only fair.

(00:53):
We'll work that out financially. From our don't say super
Bowl episode on Thursday, and it's been a very super
rainy Sunday into now Monday. So I'm glad that everybody
got got here today.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
From various points, it was dicey.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
I'm glad I'm not living in the hallway or control
room right next to our studio, which is just right now,
well hold on it.

Speaker 6 (01:19):
So they yeah, they like literally opened the floor outside
the studio and they're fishing around with like a broom
to mop up batter and something. This is a low level,
hollowed out death star about to be shot into. Like
this building has always felt slightly fraudulent, and it's being
completely exposed, like we're three levels below the roof.

Speaker 7 (01:38):
And it's leaking that what is happening concerning Also the
fact that water was coming through lights and there were
like dumpster sized containers catching the water and tarps everywhere
concerning reminded me a little bit of the Titanic when
the Titanic started to spring leaks.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
But yeah, another monument to humanity that turned out to be.

Speaker 6 (01:58):
A little like the most concerning element is that in
the very hard working people that you know deal with
maintenance and things here in their work seem to have
zero Like they seem to be in awe of what
is happening to the building.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
But this is everywhere.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Right when you hit the iceberg, everybody's like, yeah, we're fine,
Wait a minute, what we went We never thought this
would have on single Molly Brown was like a we're cool,
let's go dansing soaculator, there's.

Speaker 8 (02:22):
Slides by me, There's there's a lot going on in
La like everyone everyone's calmed down with oh, it's just raining,
what a little rain, and like the whole city shuts down. Yeah,
because this area can't handle all of the water.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Gang So yeah, well I was accused of that. Well
that is and my wife on Sunday, Oh, I said,
I looked on my window and it didn't seem to be.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
That does depend where you are in some areas. It's
totally fine.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Think about this. They got this. This is sobering.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
My pool is getting very close to overflowing the coma.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Like they're thinking about Just think about that. What happens
at the happens though, by the way, and that's what
we're dealing with here.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
You should be draining your pool before a big storm.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
But Aquaman, I don't know. All right. This is also
hard to believe.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
But is the been three years since Chris Westling left us.
This is the Chris Westling podcast studio. Chris was one
of the founding members of this podcast and our good
friend and passed away from cancer three years ago on
this very day. It's it's still hard to believe, greg

(03:42):
that that that he's gone at all, and that three
years have passed and yet here we are.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
It's it's it's a tough time of year, I think,
with the super Bowl coming up every year when this
this date happens. But unlike you know a lot of people,
we have these these video recordings of our time with Wes,
and not that the podcast was our only great times
with Wes, but it is crazy to go back and
to listen to those at times like this.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
I have an idea, well it was kind of Greg's idea,
but well take it as you're right. Yes, I think
Wes would appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
This is this is fun because yes, it sucks that
he's not with us, but it is great that we
have these memories that we could listen to and it
is super Bowl weak and it is Wes, you know,
from I guess it would have been about the twenty
fourteen super Bowl and the next five or six years

(04:39):
after it was it was the four of us doing
all those shows together. And and we are coming up
on an anniversary.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Is it the ten year anniversary of this? Well, this
occurred after the twenty fourteen season.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
So this would be yeah, nine years right now.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah. So Chris famously had this.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
He was an avid softball player both in at Tybee Island,
where he lived before relocating to Los Angeles to take
the NFL job, and then of course here in LA
where the Shield of the Company softball team went to
three straight title games, winning two Chips. Trophies are in
my attic every year when I go up there to
get the Christmas decorations. There they are staring right back

(05:21):
at me. It's very nice. Makes me think of Chris also,
And so Chris, there was a two part situation one
year on the podcast. He said it was something about
the Raiders and how many wins they would get to
or something.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
He was very down on the Raiders, as I recall.

Speaker 5 (05:37):
The Dennis Allen Raiders that he did not believe could
get to eight wins. And now that you mentioned it,
that would have been our very first season as the
round the NFL makes sense. That would have been the
twenty thirteen season. This super Bowl is capping our second
full season. That was c X Patriots.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
So Wes said, if the Raiders reached that benchmark, he'll
eat his own softball fans. And it came down to
the wire, but he actually ended up winning that wager.
He looked it right in the face and and ended
up not having a Then he doubled down Chris and
the following year after your boy, Johnny Manziel Mark enters
the league as a first round pick and all the

(06:13):
hype around him, Wes said, I again will eat my
softball pants if Johnny manziel is not the weak one
starter for the Cleveland Browns, which at the time, what
Wes didn't know and what we didn't have clear idea about,
was like how much madness was going on beyond the
scenes with Manziel, which and they end up going with
Brian Hoyer to start that season. Anyway, so Wes loses

(06:35):
the wager. Cut to the Super Bowl Media Center in
where would.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
This have been? New Orleans?

Speaker 2 (06:41):
No, Arizona, Arizona, And guess what it was time to
pay the piper at that media center.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
I'll never forget it.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
They had a random we didn't know it was going
to be there, but a random hot dog stand in
the middle of the media center.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
And it was a twenty dollars hot dog.

Speaker 6 (06:57):
It was like a gourmet Well, although I thought I
thought our producer had to go find it out on
the town, it was no.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
True, No, it was literally in the Media Center. It
was a twenty dollars. What we needed to do was
get the NFL to clear paying for the hot dog,
which was a chore back, like, oh my god, they
didn't want us do in the podcast, it was like, now,
all of a sudden, here we go, they get the clearance.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Here comes. I think it was like a three foot
hot dog.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
It was in that realm outrageous with all the pictures
hot dog.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
So we decided the move would be to cut up
the softball pants and sprinkle it over the dog and
West because he was always a man that was good,
uh you know for his word ate up.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Let's listen to a clip from that show.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
We will find out will Chris Westling eat his softball?

Speaker 9 (07:46):
First time I've ever had heartburn before I ate something.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
Wesling was seriously nervous. Later, we were doing some preparations
behind the scene with the softball pants. West is getting
a little I'm a little.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
I mean he's eating polyester, zipper and other composite parts.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
So we're just get ready. Wes's it could be dangerous.
I'm concerned for my friend and this openly sugar Wes
softball pants. It's literally minutes away. Now where's your where's
your where's your mind?

Speaker 9 (08:11):
I think of everything I've consumed this week, softball pants
are not high.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
On the list of most harmful my mind. It's really fair.
And he did true to his word. He took a
couple of bites.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
He took down the polyester, he took down the composite parts,
some zipper, and then I remember about still about eighty
seven percent of the hot dog left behind when we
just we were like do we throw it out to
somebody else?

Speaker 3 (08:31):
That we just walked away.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
And there's a photo if you're watching on the Fast
channel of Wes at the moment of truth. A great
one of a million great memories with Wes, and that's
in terms of the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
That one's at the top.

Speaker 6 (08:41):
We had Connor Or with us, and that was the
when they would do the radio row where we were
sitting up on a bigger set than they tend to
have these days for our show. But like there were
like sixty to seventy people standing there watching with no
context clues of what was happening other than Wes eating
a three foot long hot dog with composing parts in
softball pants cloth on.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
It, including Keith and Keith ANSAs.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
My brother. Yeah, yep, they were right. If you look
at that photo, if you bring it up again, that
was they're right there, there there, They're there. It's uh,
it's incredible and uh the other fun part and this
was also part of the West experience. Obviously, if anyone
listens to the show, you know something like this, I
would be hyper invested in and be excited about the bit.
And I asked Wes like ten times. I said, Wes,

(09:27):
you got to make sure you bring the softball pans.
Can't forget to bring him? We need the softball pants.
And then what happens once we get to Arizona?

Speaker 3 (09:34):
I forgot him.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
That was a.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Different version of Wes back then on someone.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
I think that's a good segue, and we did eventually
get them. But Greg, you pulled another clip too that
it connects a little bit.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Of what you were saying.

Speaker 7 (09:46):
Mark.

Speaker 5 (09:46):
The whole show is fun to listen to it. It's
much different. We're much more concise. Maybe we had to
get out of there, but that show is under thirty
five minutes. We did like four segments. I brought up
to him because he suddenly was big on Dan Quinn.
I believe or maybe with Patriots, And I was getting
on him for falling in love basically with whatever team

(10:10):
that he covered for the week. Then he suddenly thought
like the people that that team was were the greatest things.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Ever, that's a fair point I credit.

Speaker 9 (10:19):
I credit Pete Peril because I think he made a
lot of mistakes early in his coaching career. And I
don't know how good of a person he was, but
he seems like a more self actualized individual.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
We learned it from his mistakes. You see a little
of yourself in Pek.

Speaker 9 (10:32):
Now, I have never learned anything, and I'm not good
at evolving.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
I wish I would to say I'm not getting dizzy
right now because Wes conceded a point. Now, what you
said Mark connects for me is that Wes before he died,
absolutely evolved. A lot of that went back to Lakeisha
in my mind, and what a transformational effect she had.
But also it's not just a person entering his life.
Wes kind of made a concerned effort to evolve change.

(10:57):
Not that that Wes was bad, but it was different
than the one that we knew before he got.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
So there were multiple Weses.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
And I also think like that so Greg, like what
that clip you displayed was because that was the version
of our show where I got tagged tracking the Patriots
all week and Wes had the Seahawks.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
And so but there was a day we won't We.

Speaker 6 (11:17):
Both bent went to Seattle like media media session and
sat and talked to dan Quinn for like twenty five minutes,
and like both just fell in love with dan Quinn.
So I think that's where that was coming from. It's
like dan Quinn, I know today it's like, oh, it's
a bit of a boring hire by the command. It's
like dan Quinn dazzled in this like one on one,
like hanging out with a couple of reporters and Wes fell.
Wes is not a hardcore journalist and in terms of

(11:39):
like a reporter person, and like he just fell for
dan Quint.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
You know what I think listening to this, which I
never would have remember, dan Quinn had read something Wes
wrote and told him, oh it's nice to meet you
and mentioned how he had read. And so now I'm
rooting for dan Quinn.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Now all right, Yeah we're all back in what a
higher Yeah, we love it.

Speaker 7 (12:00):
When we were talking yesterday about things that we could
potentially do for Wes today. The softball pants for me
was like such a pivotal moment in like my friendship
with you guys, how much I wanted to be friends
with you guys. That was my first season at NFL.
And I'll never forget when he ate his softball pants

(12:21):
and I remember specifically the zippers. Will just like stay
with you talking about the zippers, and.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
It never left my mind.

Speaker 7 (12:31):
It still lives in the recesses of my mind somehow.
But it was like when Wes' is Toaster the softball
pants episode, when Wes was in Tybee and he.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Called in from the bar. We called the bar and
he was, he was there.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
It wasn't We always called him because part of the
fund was tracking him. You would get you would get him.
You would obviously get him at the bar huckapoos more
often than not. But if you didn't get him at
the bar, he was at the garage with Wayne and Rosie.
Really one of those two spots, yes specifically, and.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
He was in such his element.

Speaker 7 (13:06):
And in those early days we were taping all of
those like random segments for NFL now and I didn't
get a chance to like truly see what Wes was
until we would go and hang out off site and
things like that. But that on those episodes, the TYPEE episodes,
he really was able to show all of the listeners
like who he was, his true spirit and it was

(13:26):
so beautiful to see and it was just so fun
to be around him, and I just missed him so much.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
Yeah, we all do. Like today I was thinking about,
like the best way we can honor him, Like he
always when there was a good time to be had
anywhere he was, he was going to make sure he
had it. So I think that that's the best way
to try to honor him today. Yes see that.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yes, I was on this Pro Football Ireland did a
live show last week and they were at a bar
and as often as the case, I was in on
zooms and I was talking to a bunch of Irish
people holding guinnesses and always asked about Wes Love getting
asked about West and he said, what is it that
you remember about Wes And it was That's what I
thought of. It was like, I am personally someone who

(14:07):
likes to keep a smaller, tighter circle people. I have
people that are comfortable with, I have people that I like,
which all you guys are included in that group, as
was Wes and.

Speaker 10 (14:15):
Lakeisha and I, yeah, I just got in Wes. Wes
was the opposite. Wes was like the more the merrier. Oh,
he was always comfortable no matter the gathering. So obviously
to lose somebody like that is unbelievable. You never kind
of you never kind of get over it because it's

(14:38):
he was like one of those one in a million
type people. And then when you have that person at
your life and then go the the immense, the immense
nature of the loss never really dissipates. But getting to
talk about him this way is it helps.

Speaker 7 (14:50):
I'll never forget When I first started listening to the
ATM podcast, it was I was on the flight to
take the job to move out here to LA and
I started just like downloading as many NFL podcasts as possible,
and I just like list blew through all of your episodes,
and I remember thinking to myself, Okay, Dan is going

(15:11):
to be probably the easiest.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
One to become friends with.

Speaker 7 (15:14):
And and then I wasn't sure where Mark and Greg
fell yet, but I thought that Wes was going to
be the most difficult one to win over. And it
could not have been more of the opposite. When I
met you, guys, well, and we had a we had.

Speaker 6 (15:30):
A like a truly if you'd write a book about
the whole thing of fortuitous encounter at the the Whaler
where it was just a random off season Sunday and
I was out with Wes, which you know the minute
football would end. I know he was the hardcore football
head and we missed his analysis. But like when the
football season went in, Wes would declare it, like make
a declarative statement of like football, check you later for

(15:51):
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Of time here.

Speaker 6 (15:52):
Oh, And he loved to go looking around LA for
something that felt like Tybee Island, and the Whaler, which
was an upstairs bar overlooking the sea, felt close to it.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
And we were out there.

Speaker 6 (16:02):
Having beers and you were there with Christ and your
friend and your dad and your mom.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Huh.

Speaker 6 (16:07):
And we didn't really know you at all, We had
never hung out and we I think that started this
idea of like, wait a minute, we should all be friends.
And like a week or two later, Dan was there,
Greg was there, like everyone was there, and it just
like grew from that moment and Wes I think showed
you how easy. It was, oh my god, like, there's
the West the football person that everyone listened to, and
then there's the West, the hangout person that's like, wait
a minute, this is a whole different universe.

Speaker 7 (16:27):
Less and my mom were like beck as thieves immediately.
My mom was just like crushing Pete Carroll for some
reason hated him, and Wes absolutely loved that.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
I guess I kind of forgot about the Carol Westling beef.
But now this has all been brought back up. And
speaking of Wes program, note we had been taping these
over the course of the season, and now they're starting
to roll out on NFL Plus, where we watched each
of the last five Super Bowls leading up to, of
course this upcoming Sunday's Super Bowl fifty eight.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
Too many Roman numerals, well's it's enough already.

Speaker 6 (17:04):
We're done with ro never talked to a bunch of
so many people agree with your Roman.

Speaker 5 (17:08):
Thank you, We're done with it. We're not gonna yeah,
we don't know.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
The NFL's not there. We'll lead them.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
So if the NFL is not done with it, we're
not done with We're back. Fortunately, we're back in. But
we go through Yeah, each of the last five Super Bowls.
You know, like we said three years ago today we
lost Wes. That also happened to be two days before
the Chiefs Bucks Super Bowl that year, So when we
go through that game, you'll see that on NFL Plus

(17:33):
if you want to check it out.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
We actually talk about West. We play some.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
A clip that Lakeisha produced about you know, the loss
and the life that they shared together.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
So check that out an NFL Plus. All right, what
do we got going on today?

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yes, the Super Bowls this week, and it's a it's
a two it's a two week ramp up. We don't
need two weeks. Like in terms of breaking down the game.
The game is the game. There are teams that we've
been watching all season long. We got the deep dive
all through the playoffs. The two weeks is really about
the NFL as the machine getting on the Death Star
in place in Las Vegas. So I don't feel bad

(18:10):
if this show, for instance, doesn't hit it too hard
because we're going to Vegas on Wednesday, and just so
everyone knows, we're gonna have a big lineup of three
shows at Radio Row with a bunch of great guests.
So that's and We're gonna continue to dig into the
game a little later. Today we're gonna get Brian Baldinger,
the Great Balding on the show. Yes, and we're gonna
start digging into the game. But before that, we only

(18:33):
have a finite amount of time with Colleen because Connie
Fox Listen, she's.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
One of the faces of the network. And the fact that.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
We got her booked her today, the clock's already ticking
as a matter of fact. So why don't we move
some things around and get into our first big subject,
which is something we've teased for.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
A while, the Top ten.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Radio Hall of the twenty twenty three hyphen twenty four season.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Now, this is a this is a big one for.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
I'm getting rid of hyphens too. Is this twenty three?
I don't care if it's not.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
It's like we're deep into.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
Now, to just make a choice.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Eric, the producer who does great work. How are you Eric?

Speaker 5 (19:20):
I'm doing good, guys, How are you? Eric? Are you
packed for Vegas yet?

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Well, I'm worrying about my pool swallowing up the rest
of my house right now, So that's kind of set
me back a little.

Speaker 6 (19:30):
Right I'm driving, so I just throw it in the
back of a car and I'm leaving to park it
underneath the l in the basement hotel.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
That's a long drive for the sess DOAG and it's
got me a little noivous, I gotta say I did.

Speaker 11 (19:42):
I was partially surprised, but Mark is Mark's an outlier,
so when they when I heard about this, I was like,
I could see it happening.

Speaker 6 (19:49):
I think there's some fair concern on the part of
the league, but I don't think this should be I
don't understand where they're coming from.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
There's meetings, Eric, so you know the don't say super
Bowl show. Notwithstanding, I guess I messed up too. But yeah,
I guess I'll blew it. But if you could tally up,
because I still have to share what we're going to
do with with that slush fund, but I want to
wait for some Randy Chevez to be right not here today.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
We need you.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
We ask you all season to collect the calls that
we hear in real time on Sundays that really resonate
with us and connect and we did some. It took
some time and made our own lists, and then it
was up to Eric the producer to put it together
in a top ten calls of the twenty twenty three season.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Season. So let's get into it, Colleen, How what do you.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Think I'm ready for it. I feel like there's a
lot of pressure though for Eric always.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Never it's it's a lot of heat in that chair.
It's a hot seat, it is. I mean, it's like
spinal tap. They tend to disappear after a while, one
way or the other. We hope Eric will be the
one that sticks around.

Speaker 11 (21:03):
Well, see how Vegas goes, guys, I might just stay
in the desert.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah, well, you know, you know what they say. All right,
here we go.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Any other anybody have comments before we move into this conversation.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
I can relate to the staying in the desert comment
by him. So that's why we're concerned. That's why the
league is a concern about this Vegas trip.

Speaker 12 (21:19):
For you.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
That's a long drive for the Sustar.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Can I put a tracker on your car?

Speaker 3 (21:22):
I know you've been driving more I haven't driving.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
About how much is he actually driving?

Speaker 4 (21:26):
He's a really good driver?

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Right? Very Wait are you are you a front seat driver?

Speaker 2 (21:32):
You're like the passenger in a two car journey with
the significant other.

Speaker 6 (21:37):
No drive in the same car. I'll drive as much
behind the wheel. Sure, a bunch of the time.

Speaker 5 (21:42):
Split it up.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
That's how you do it. I think I don't split
it up.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
Wow, I mean I live with them.

Speaker 6 (21:50):
I should drive the entire way, absolutely, I know, but
I'm also preparing for a show and taking, you know,
throw notes and researching.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
I mean, my lovely uh emic a wife doesn't literally
doesn't drive. I have to just drive to the grocery.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
I live in my car.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Greg's wife is still mad that they moved to California.
So her way of getting back, I'm never getting a
driver's license in Los Angeles to make your life twenty
nine percent.

Speaker 6 (22:15):
That's a pretty like fantastic yes or no, piece of revenge.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
What a plan by her.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
Yeah, she definitely would rather be in New York for Tokyo.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
All right, here we go, New York or Tokyo, not
Los Angeles. Problematic. The number ten call of this season
belongs to should I just should I set these up?
I have the top ten here?

Speaker 11 (22:40):
Yeah, you have the top ten, so I just want
to toss to and then you give them credit after
the end.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Okay, The number ten call goes back to the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
And it was the dagger throw by Jordan Love.

Speaker 13 (22:52):
First in ten football at the thirty eight of Dallas
play action of bootleg left half, boot legs.

Speaker 14 (23:00):
Right up but down the right side, must turns out, touchdown, touchdown.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Blue Mush Gray been a dagger, Hey, dagger like you
off Heart of the Cowboys. Great call by Wayne Laravie.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Of course a w R n W and credit to
Fox too, because we're seeing if you're watching this on Fast,
you're seeing a woman in Arlington at Jerald World just
throwing her arms up like I can't believe this is happening.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
The dagger just cutting through everyone in the in the
town through the heart. Stunner.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
That woman makes this call so much better.

Speaker 7 (23:38):
The cutaway shot of her, It all kind of like
plays together and makes it perfect.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Do we ding Laravie because he's not seeing that necessarily
do anything overthinking?

Speaker 5 (23:48):
This dagger through the heart is great and it was
the last dagger of the season. I felt like the
last two months every Sunday was some version of a
different dagger, and this was the logical conclusion.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
I like it. I need a little bit more in
general from these calls, so let's see what comes up. Next.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
That's why I came in at number ten. And remember,
if some of these feel underwhelming, it's not because it's
not Eric's fault. It's because in the moment he said,
we said to Eric, right, No, we want to make
it clear. We say to Eric, put that in the folder.
So if Mark you're underwhelmed, maybe you should have said
something in the moment, like don't put that in the fold.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
I add point the biler it myself. Number nine.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Let's go to uh Tennessee, where the new kid quarterback
finishes off a masterpiece of a week eight performance.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
My second and eleven play fake let us rolling to
the right, looking looking firing deep that field, going for Westbrook,
Akita in the intel taxstod tight Will Levis on his.

Speaker 15 (24:53):
His back, gets to watch has he has just thrown
his fourth tych Dad ass.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
I'm visited, bel Did you hey?

Speaker 5 (25:04):
That dude has got an arm?

Speaker 3 (25:06):
WHOA what a big time throw there?

Speaker 2 (25:08):
It is for TDS, for Levis, Mike Keith with it
called Dave McGinnis. I think part of the reason, maybe
on that one, Greg, that we were like put it
in the folder is because you were expecting, oh, this
Levis is the start of an every week occurrence. He
never did that again, but it was pretty awesome in
the moment.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
I think just having Mike, if we went back and
listened to this year after year, like had a all
time power ring because I feel like Mike, you just
get a Mike Keith Collin every year.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
You gotta get Keith in there.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
Mike Keith is awesome, all right?

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Number eight? Okay, So Cowboys had a big year.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Deron Bland had a big year, setting an NFL record
for pick six's.

Speaker 13 (25:41):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
This was the point of the season where you began
expecting it and just saying when will it happen?

Speaker 3 (25:46):
I believe this might have been the last one, but
it was a memorable.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
One second and ten Jones is back plenty of time,
rolls right, boggled up, throws back to that and intercepting
groan Blend call the.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
House, Hello house, Hello house. Touchdown for the plane.

Speaker 5 (26:09):
Yeah, that's my favorite.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
I was on the points because Mark. We were at
Cowboys camp this summer. We met with Brad Sham, the
sham god, who has a close relationship with Oliver Stone,
or at least was in a film of his, and
we had a long conversation with the sham God, so
to hear him and and.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
And and that call. I like that one well, And
that happens so often for him to cover, and he
found a new way to do it.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
I don't think I don't think that was pre planned.
That's why I love it.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
He's an innovator.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Hello house, all right? Number seven?

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Okay, this one's a little bit controversial because you would say, oh,
it should always be some type of exciting call.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
But this was a call that took place in the second.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Half of one of the most grizzly blowouts in NFL history,
and it happens to involve in the booth Matt Money
Smith and Bucky Brooks's podcast partner that they just launched.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
A shows his name God.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
I wish I could remember something looked that up at
and with the Raiders at the goal line, here's the
call from Money.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Have you decided whether you want to stand up or
sit down yet? I didn't want to lay down under
the desk and I was looking for a blindfold, but
apparently you can't do this shot with a born.

Speaker 16 (27:20):
No, we have to watch do our best to bring
you some entertaining play by play and analysis of what
has been wildly disappointing. Here's a double pass to the
end zone, and hey, why not just humiliated.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
I didn't know this was eligible for some reason. I
thought it was in some separate category. This might be
my number one, but that's an Alzheimer. I want to
save that for future youth.

Speaker 6 (27:51):
I am the nerd that drives around listening to AM
sports radio in Los Angeles and Matt money Smith and
Petros like Hope, like they have a show that ranges
from like one hour to four hours depending on when
the Dodgers player or someone else, but like Matt money
Smith is ready for anything, and like I think he's
got an underrated sense of humor, h sort of sarcasm.
And it played out right there, and it's like I

(28:13):
love that kind of thing. I like when our play
by play, Like when play by play people are not
just robots.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
There are a lot of robots. He's not a robot.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
That's funny because I'm listening to that call. And did
you know power Rings for a couple of years of
Matt and got to know him, and he just sounds mad.
He sounds like like it's embarrassing for everyone. Like it's
so it's so he's using it. Yeah, that type of
zone there. But that is a team, Yes, that is.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
At level they're they're a part of the team. They get,
they get a super Bowl ring if they win the
Super Bowl. And let's not they're mad. Do you get
points to critique, then it's not.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
It's not Jameis Winston, Uh, you know, and the running
play with Jamal Williams, but Antonio appires calling a double
pass to get to Ponta Adams a touchdown up forty two.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Nothing. Uh, kind of flew.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Under the radar a little bit in terms of Dick moves.
But listen, but it got him a head coach job
in some bar.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Honey, just being like, yeah, why not?

Speaker 5 (29:03):
Just so just sated, he said.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Just humiliate them. I think he's talking about the booth
as well. Just tough one, tough one. All right, all right,
let's do something more positive for the Raiders. The Patriots
pop up a couple times here, Greg and negative ways.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
But that's yeah, this is mac Jones's second total blunder
to set up an opponent.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
All right, here we go. How about we finished the
song with the safety?

Speaker 12 (29:25):
Shall we.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Anything but a deep bowl?

Speaker 10 (29:33):
Bourd out Territory obviously, Jones standing in his own ends
on to.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Our right, snap back to pass pressure again.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
Off the edge, shack for the safety cross the Nichols.

Speaker 14 (29:46):
They note in the end they school stood.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
To the turf. Have the Raiders defense?

Speaker 17 (29:52):
How's that safe thing?

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Jason?

Speaker 12 (29:54):
Did you predicted it?

Speaker 3 (29:55):
How about you give me a lot of numbers for
that kid?

Speaker 2 (29:57):
David Harrowitz and Lincoln Kennedy with the call of a KRLV.
You think, based on the first half of this top
ten that the Raiders are playing on Sunday, But that's
not exactly what happened.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
But they had some exciting moments. Connie, any thoughts there.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
I just like how clairvoyant he was in the moment.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Bonus points for that.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
I just like throughout the course of the season you
could feel a catastrophic Mac Jones play coming, and then
it always came. It's truly one of the worst quarterback
seasons from a quarterback. I feel like that we've seen
be okay. Ever, I mean that that was an all
time bad quarterback.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
There. Is he going to be next year?

Speaker 12 (30:36):
Like?

Speaker 3 (30:36):
What kind of market will he come out if he's
not with Is he going to be with the Patriots?

Speaker 5 (30:39):
I mean he has a contract under contract. Someone will
someone give up a seventh round conditional pick and just
to have a new start, I would think so like
that drafted all right?

Speaker 2 (30:51):
This next one I had slightly higher, but in the
average weight it ended at number five.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
The Texans and the Titans. And this one was on
my radar and a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
I liked this one because I just the Titans had
the gall the gall yes, after ownership abandoned the city
of Houston.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
Abandoned them and went to Nashville, Okay, to then.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Have the absolute audacity to then wear a Houston Oilers
throwback jersey for their throwback week when they're playing against
the Texans, the team that replaced the Oilers after to
borrow assessrism. They ripped the Oilers out of the belly

(31:46):
right to Houston. Terrible manners and they pay for it,
disgraceful to the highlight. Sixteen sixteen, two seconds to go
in overtime, fifty four yard a tip left hash Mark.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Here's the snap.

Speaker 5 (31:59):
Here here's the spot.

Speaker 12 (32:00):
Here's the kick by.

Speaker 6 (32:01):
Fair bearsod the Tuxads win.

Speaker 15 (32:07):
Legendary fair Bear knocks it through from four.

Speaker 14 (32:12):
As the texaids defeat.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Just farmer oilers. Put those uniforms back in the trunk.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
In the trunk, I think you want the voices of
your nineteen sixteen five to feel the same anger and
fire and joy that you feel, and like they speak
for the fans right there, and that one, I think.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
I had it ranked higher because of the Mark Vanderbier
and Andre Ware with the call for kilt.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
That's what you get.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
That's what you get.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
Are on the list because of the tag from the
color analyst to cap it in the winter.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
You're always gonna get bonus points when the color analyst
goes full fan and just starts screaming. Celebration Number four
all was a special second half for Cleveland Browns fans.
Is Joe Flacco stepped in and took the team to
the playoffs. Here was one of his many plays that season.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
This Flaco on fourth down and three, play clock is
in five. I don't know if they're gonna snap it.
Play clock is at two. They do. He rolls right,
he throws the middle.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Its fine open down at the twenty five.

Speaker 15 (33:12):
At the twenty fifteen ten five touchdown hits David Bell.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Oh my goodness, they forgotten to cover David Bell.

Speaker 17 (33:24):
It was the parting of the Red Sea Jim David
Bell who has been searching, yearning, desire to get into
the end zone in the National Football League, Well desire
no more.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
My friend Jim Donovan and Nathan Scarro, the calm great
Jim Donovan.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Was that the game where we went with the on
side kick play call on Sunday?

Speaker 6 (33:46):
Oh no, I'm not sure about that one. Uh, well
you're doing Dave Njoku that day.

Speaker 5 (33:53):
Yeah, it was on site.

Speaker 11 (33:54):
I almost there was a slight part of me where
I thought about sneaking that into this lists for you,
but I know on a time here, But yeah, that
was the plan. And then we also played a Nijoku
highlight later in the week two your multiple times.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
I like Jim Donovan. We all know he struggled a lot.

Speaker 6 (34:09):
He's been through a lot of health battles and come
back and just I think of all these guys, he's
got to be in a top three of enthusiasm that
when something good happens to the Browns, like he cannot
control themselves and there are incredible him and the girls.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
The girl also is like a ball of energy.

Speaker 6 (34:26):
But like they have like video shots of these guys
up in the boot that you think like they're sitting
down with like notes, like they're standing up going crazy,
and like Jim Donovan is.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Right at the top of the list. So I like that.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
And a special shout out even though not on the
list but easily could have been on the list. Andrew Siciliano,
who who stepped in uh for Jim when he was
dealing with health issues. Add some really great calls Chris
too ye during that those some of those unlikely Browns
wins throughout throughout the season. All right, number three, all right,

(34:56):
we're on this. We're on to the metal stand Connie, Okay,
here we go. Oh you knew Wolfley was gonna be
on the list? Oh heck.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Cardinals Steelers, Week thirteen.

Speaker 18 (35:07):
Third down on a yard on the nine, Three tight
ends Murray under center, Connor behind him, one receiver to
the right. They hand it off Connor to the laft,
first down, Connor dies for the end zone touchdown. James
Connor with two scores and the welcome back party in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 14 (35:27):
All the Cardinals just broke out black and blue Brigade, Baby,
light up and suck the beating hearts speaking of your.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Speaking of course, wow, as opposed to literally murdering your
opponent by sticking your hand into the chest Temple of
Doom style.

Speaker 5 (35:49):
I mean it was to just goes oh started.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
That just comes from such a deep place within himself.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
I love it is he talk like that when he's
at the deli counter, Like, I like who he is.
He's just sort of like a strange he's won this before.

Speaker 12 (36:05):
Like.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
We're gonna go with a half pound of the turkey,
all right? Number two?

Speaker 4 (36:17):
The silver?

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Yeah, the silver? You would you rather be two or three? Ultimately? Two?
What because you're so close to one at that point.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
Yeah, but three you're so much farther from one.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
You recently celebrated your birthday, Connie, I did, and you
sent a clip of doing an incredible Was it a
triple axle?

Speaker 4 (36:32):
No, it's just a little scratch spin.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Pretty damn impressive. Thank you, I have to say. But
you're saying silver metal beats.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
Yeah, Michelle Kwan always getting that silver?

Speaker 3 (36:43):
How about Karrigan getting edged?

Speaker 5 (36:46):
The Olympians always say silver hurt points because then you
just wish you won, whereas Browns are kind of happy
to be there.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Kragan went through a lot.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Karrigan gets whacked in the knee, yeah, you know, and
then I think it was Kwan maybe or no katterine
a vit maybe.

Speaker 6 (36:59):
I refused to watch the event after Kerrigan was whacked.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
I thought that it lost all integrity.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Eric the producer, please look up who defeated Nancy Kerrigan
in the Olympics.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
By fractions of a point?

Speaker 7 (37:10):
It wasn't Lipinski yet, I don't think it is definitely
after I think it was maybe Katerinovich. He was definitely
in the mix.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
I don't think so either. But number two silver medal
goes to our buddy at the barbershop.

Speaker 18 (37:24):
Second down and goal from the five has a snap
helmet high looking left now middle pressure.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
He steps up, He froze.

Speaker 15 (37:30):
Right side end zone cut cut back right pylon. De
Marcus Robinson with the go ahead score. Matthew Stafford play
like an Ellipsis, Dots after dots after dot, touchdown Las.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
The Great JB along with the call KSPN just I
love A.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
JB's style because he's he's economical but also vivid in
his descriptions, and that's truly an original call an Ellipsis.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Half the people might need to look up what is that?

Speaker 2 (38:08):
And then you see it, Oh, DoD DoD dotton And
that was Stafford all season, right in a time when
Grammar has you know, been thrown out of the side
of the car.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
It goes car like he is a technical assassin.

Speaker 5 (38:17):
And it was one of like the literally the best
drives by any quarterback all season because he's right like
Stafford on that drive made like three or four ridiculous throws.
I don't know if it's going to make it awkward
when we see JB next that he was so close
to the mountaintop and he's like, well you couldn't just
dn't just give it to me, guys, or if it

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is motivation, something to strive for for our friend for
next year so he doesn't rest on.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
His life, that's good. A little bit of both, a
little bit about and I think I think it a
little bit of it will be like as disappoint as
he may be, Oh wow, those guys are crazy amounts
of integrity.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
I'm sure that's what he's going to think.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Do we know, by the way, who beat who beat?
And a big on a big spot just a massive
yon to her all right, number one, here we.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
Go, Miss Barry Connecticut resident, give.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Me a give me a little timpany drum, because there
can only be one, There can only be one, the
greatest call. And maybe the super Bowl will bring a
great calls out, but the one that from all these
games that was better than any other. For the wild
Card playoff, round we go, Ford Field, Here we go.

Speaker 19 (39:28):
Golf works out of the gun, second down, and nine
two minutes ago, there's golf back looking looking throws.

Speaker 12 (39:35):
It is caught Havin ross S grown first down.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Not gonna do it, gonna do it, not gonna do it.

Speaker 12 (39:41):
Turn Golf delivers against this former team.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Now all they have to do is take a knee
three times and this game will be over.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
For the second time since nineteen fifty seven, for the
first time since January fifth, nineteen ninety two, the Detroit
Lions are gonna.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Win a playoff.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Whoa of course, that is the voice of Dan Miller
w x YT, a man who's been calling Lions games
for a long time now and doing an incredible job
at it, and so happy now to see Dan calling
a big time team. And with that said, oh what
fortuity that now Joining us in the Chris Wesley podcast studio,

(40:25):
The integrity is off the charts.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
There is Dan Miller. Welcome to it.

Speaker 12 (40:31):
What's up, guys.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
How you doing better now?

Speaker 6 (40:34):
Dan?

Speaker 12 (40:35):
Well, that was very nice. I appreciate that. That was
very kind.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
You earned it.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
You're the Oxana Bayoule of this particular competition. Dan, about
what it would have been, It would have been about
eight years ago now, when I was writing the pain rankings.
I wanted to talk to someone who truly understood what
the Lions have been through over these years. And it
was you who I thought of. And you were so
nice to talk with me on the phone. And here

(41:01):
is the first question. And this is a tough way
to open an interview, but listen, what did I know?
Not a real journalist?

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Dan, here we go.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
In your first six years on the job as the
play by play guy, the Lions went twenty three and
seventy four, And I asked how that made your job
more difficult? And you spoke expressively, and it's very interesting
now we're on the other side of it. What a
fun season that you just went through with the lines
and early two years of Dan Campbell.

Speaker 12 (41:27):
Yeah, I like this is much better. I will tell
you that.

Speaker 19 (41:30):
And that call and that emotion was just really just
everything that I think we've all been through, and believe me,
I've done this for nineteen years. There's a lot of
people out there that felt the release of that victory
and that moment that have been arounded a lot longer
than I have, cacades longer than I have, and and
have known really nothing but heartache and disappointment, and just

(41:53):
that was just so important for so many people, so
many reasons for the franchise, for the city, for the moment,
and it was just I think you know, it was
just it was relief, it was being thrilled beyond belief,
and it was just a million emotions that went into
one and just an electric night downtown at Detroit.

Speaker 12 (42:13):
It was just amazing.

Speaker 6 (42:15):
It's I some of my earliest football memories are like
driving around with my dad to go do like various
chores on a Sunday, and like listening to football on
the radio, and it's it's such a different visceral experience
than television for obvious reasons, like you've got to paint
this picture. And it's weird that my memories of listening

(42:36):
to radio I are still visual in some way just
by looking out the window at the same time, but like,
how do you like attack a radio broadcast verse, Like
when you're so connected to these lines fans and you're
painting the picture of this historic, incredible game and moment, Like,
how do you even just go into it and just
bring that energy. I think it's like instructed to people
because it's not a job that very many people could

(42:56):
do well.

Speaker 19 (42:58):
I think there is something magic about RAID. I mean,
I grew up in Washington, d C. In Maryland and Virginia,
and I was a Washington fan growing up. And I
still can in my mind's eye see John Riggins going
around a left side to win the Super Bowl. And
although I watch that game on TV, in my mind
it's Frank Herzog, the radio voice of Washington at the

(43:20):
time that I always hear his call, even though I
didn't hear that until later, but I've heard it so
many times since that that is kind of the.

Speaker 12 (43:28):
Soundtrack of my mind. You know.

Speaker 19 (43:30):
I think I don't operate with a restrictor plate. I
just kind of go and I just let my emotions go,
and I am emotionally involved. I make no bones about
the fact. And I think every person that's doing play
by play for a team is rooting for that team
to win. It's a little different than when you're covering
it as beat writer or something like that. You're fair,
you say when it's bad, you say when it's good.

(43:52):
But at the end of the day, you want to
see that team do well. And I tell people all
the time, there's nothing better in my job than seeing
the fans happy. And in that moment, they have not
been that happy in a long, long time, more than
thirty years, and I knew what that was going to
mean to them, and I knew what that was going
to mean to this team. And I'll tell you flat out,

(44:12):
in my forty three years in this business, I've never
wanted to see an athlete win a game more than
I wanted to see Jared Goff win that game. And
there was just, I think, just so many things that
went into that, but just generality, Look, you're trying to
bring the game to them, and I think if anything
probably resonates with fans at least what I hope it is,

(44:33):
it's that I'm as excited about what.

Speaker 12 (44:35):
I'm seeing as they are. I mean, I love it.

Speaker 19 (44:37):
I love the fact that I get to bring it
to them. But it's real because it comes from a
real place and it's just you know, that's the expression
you get and I think you know, that's what I
hear from them most is you feel our pain and
you feel when things go well, just the same way
we do.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:53):
I love that you mentioned golf because you got that
angle in there on that call right away within all
the emotion. That's that's what I'm gonna break down. I
think it had to be the call of the year,
you know, other than us showing our integrity that we
chose you over our bottom, our friend JB. Long because
it had I.

Speaker 12 (45:12):
Appreciated that so because I was like.

Speaker 18 (45:16):
Like.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
You had you had the emotion obviously, which that that's
like the most important thing. You knew the moment, but
you also understood before getting that first down exactly the
scenario of everything that you need. You needed to get
that first down, but you immediately followed it up with
the nuts and bolts of that they're gonna have to
kneel here, but that they've won the game. And so
sometimes that's all difficult to keep tracking the moment. You

(45:39):
got the golf angle in there right away, and then
after that you got in the historical context of it
all all in like very quick succession, all sort of
different things that you have to serve. Are you thinking
as that's all happening. I know the emotion is just
coming out. That's the emotional part. But those any sort

(46:00):
of points that you're getting in that quick call, are
you thinking about that ahead of time? Are you just
thinking about I want to get all of this in
in the moment.

Speaker 19 (46:09):
So I'll kind of take you inside our booth. When
they went to time out with two minutes to go,
and my guys t J. Lange, lums Proud are both
saying throw it, throw it, throw it, so we were
kind of expecting they were going to throw it. We
know Dan Campbell and he's a throw it guy. And
then when we went to that two minute time out,
I'm looking at my spot, I'm looking at my stack,

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and I'm going, if we get a first down, they
have one time out, the game's over.

Speaker 12 (46:35):
It's over.

Speaker 19 (46:35):
And I'm doing math and it's actually very simple. I
just want to make sure that we got it right.
I mean, even if they called a time out, you
get the first down, you run first down forty, you
run second down forty, you run third down.

Speaker 12 (46:46):
Forty that's two minutes right there, so it's going to
be over.

Speaker 19 (46:49):
So once I got the mechanics of the clock in
my head and knew that I could sell out if
they got the first down, then you knew that you
could just kind of let it go.

Speaker 12 (46:57):
I did throw in the have to take three knees thing.

Speaker 19 (46:59):
Because because I didn't want to say it's over and
then they mess it up and then I have to
come back and say, Okay, guys, sorry about that.

Speaker 12 (47:06):
So I wanted to spell out the.

Speaker 19 (47:07):
Fact that yes, they do have to execute that, and
I did ask Frank Ragnow about that later.

Speaker 12 (47:11):
I said, is that an easy play?

Speaker 3 (47:13):
And he goes?

Speaker 19 (47:14):
Not always he goes the first one you want to
make sure of and then you relax a little bit.
But no, I look, the golf angle was so embedded
in my head all week long, knowing what in my
mind this meant to him and what this meant to
this team that I think that just came out. That
was just natural, And I do honestly believe that that

(47:35):
was a closure moment for Jared was a you know what,
this thing is finally behind me now because I've been
in the front row to watch everything that Jared has
been through since he's come here and everything he's endured
and everything that he has handled like an absolute pro.

Speaker 12 (47:50):
And I just think, if you lose that.

Speaker 19 (47:52):
Game, and you lose to that coach, that team, that
quarterback again and nothing personally against any event, but it's
just the way that this business works.

Speaker 12 (48:03):
I think, Man, you got to live with that.

Speaker 19 (48:04):
And then when you win, even though yeah, they got
their super Bowl, but you know what, you knocked them out.

Speaker 12 (48:10):
There's peace in that.

Speaker 19 (48:11):
You move forward into playoffs. You did your job, and
in my mind that just meant so much. And I
think that's why that came out in that moment.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Kind of a follow on this one, and then we'll
let you go Dan twenty four to seven at halftime,
you know, like at the Grammys for instance, which just occurred,
Taylor Swift's going, there's no She's probably gonna pick up
some hardware. So she could act like she doesn't have
anything pre prepared, but she does. And I'm just thinking,

(48:41):
as the play by play guy, once you get to
that point in that game in the NFC title game,
which of course ended up not working out for Detroit,
but knowing that once you get to the end of
that game that becomes potentially one of the most famous
play calls in the history of Detroit Detroit sports. Did
you have something kind of in mind to weave in
if it got to that point and they did close

(49:02):
that game out.

Speaker 19 (49:04):
Yes, And I've had it and I've done it many
many times driving down the road.

Speaker 12 (49:11):
Yeah. No, I absolutely had it, and I've still got
it to my back pocket.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
I hope to use it.

Speaker 12 (49:16):
I hope to use it next year. But yeah, that
was that's as high as you.

Speaker 19 (49:23):
Know, you get winning two playoff games. There's the gut
punch of being that close to a super Bowl and
not getting there. And you know, Brad Holmes at his
press conference today and talked about expecting to be there
again next year.

Speaker 12 (49:35):
So the answer is yes.

Speaker 19 (49:38):
And those moments are are hard sometimes to prepare for
because you never know how it's going to happen. Is
it going to be a thirty one to seven game
and it's kind of anti climactic, or is it going
to be an interception that ices it or a touchdown
that happens.

Speaker 12 (49:51):
But I think I did have something.

Speaker 19 (49:54):
Of a historical perspective of what it would mean to Detroit,
because I think we know what that would mean would
be incredible, because it's something that everybody there is dreamed
about for a long time and has never happened.

Speaker 12 (50:04):
So I think that's ultimately what you want to capture.

Speaker 5 (50:06):
Well, this makes up for it, though, right like you
finishing number one on Radio College.

Speaker 12 (50:12):
I appreciate that. No, I appreciate that.

Speaker 19 (50:16):
That's uh, listen, we're just checking boxes in Detroit this year.
So won a division, won a whole playoff game, won
another playoff game, I won this.

Speaker 12 (50:25):
So just just one by one, we're just checking box
this year.

Speaker 7 (50:29):
And Dan, it doesn't feel like it's so ol anymore.
Like it feels like things have really changed and turned around.
I was lucky enough to be in Detroit for the
game against the Bucks. I learned all about Better Made
and FAGO and so like, I didn't know what Same
Old Lions was until I got there, and I feel

(50:51):
like I got there after the fact, which is a
good thing.

Speaker 19 (50:55):
Yeah, I think I think you have to retire that.
I mean, that's that's been around for a long time,
and you know what, they did figure out ways to
lose things and do things that just kind of defied
logic and you just never thought could happen, and you
would just kind of throw up and say, same old Liones.
But look, if they truly were, there's so many times

(51:16):
this season where they would have found a way to
lose a game, be it laid against Minnesota when you're
trying to clinch the division, or even that Rams game
with Matthew Stafford driving down the field.

Speaker 12 (51:25):
You know, you don't get the play that makes.

Speaker 19 (51:27):
It fourth and fourteen, and you know Aiden Hutchinson doesn't
draw the holding penalty. You know, so many things have
happened where the old Lions would have figured out a
way to lose the game. So I think, you know,
in fairness to these guys who have changed the conversation
and done so many things that haven't happened before that,
I think you have to say, you know, let's put
those three letters away. Let's let these guys say that

(51:48):
they changed it.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
What's your dog's name?

Speaker 12 (51:50):
Even my dog.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
Agrees, dogs like I want to hear the speech that
you have.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Dan.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Thank you so much, buddy, You're the best, and we
can't wait to hear you again.

Speaker 12 (52:00):
Thanks Dan, thank you, I appreciate it. Thank you very much, guys.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
That's fun. All right, there, he goes, I.

Speaker 7 (52:06):
Still want to know what his dog's name is. We're
gonna have to take that offline.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Take it off line. That's a follow up.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Yeah, classic CONDI follow up interviewing a class announcers.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
I think we should do it more often.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
I think there's anybody who listens to the show knows
we have a level of fascination with the craft. And
I don't know too many other podcasts in general that
I've ever really focused in on that side of the game,
which really connects with the fans in such a more
direct level than the national calls. Not that there aren't
great calls by all these guys that do the national games,

(52:38):
but it's.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
Those local Wolflly. You have to get Wolflly on.

Speaker 13 (52:42):
You know.

Speaker 5 (52:43):
I think we did.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
No, I don't do it again. I'm a little bit familiar.
Did it not go well? I think it would go well?
Is he on the hit it and quit it list?

Speaker 7 (52:52):
Now?

Speaker 12 (52:52):
No?

Speaker 14 (52:52):
No?

Speaker 3 (52:53):
No, gone? Well. I think it was the season when
he did the like the dusty the flower, the sunlit moves.

Speaker 5 (53:02):
I think we thought we did.

Speaker 6 (53:04):
But you know what, I think it's funny because we
don't remember who's been on the show. But then someone
will remind us.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
And then, by the way, huge.

Speaker 7 (53:13):
His dog's name is Murphy. For anyone that's wondering, just
connect with that. I just like, yeah, my energy kind
of locked in.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
If that's right.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Shout out to Madison there. All right, Connie, you've said
it all, and here's the good news for everyone. Connie's
got to get to a meeting. She's part of the
Opening night festivities. Yep uh for NFL Networks.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
Tomorrow's my sixteen flight.

Speaker 5 (53:36):
Well, you're flying a Vegas tonight, right, yeah, oh, so
you're doing Opening Night from Vegas.

Speaker 7 (53:41):
No, I'm doing Opening Night here from LA and then
flying to Vegas for some reason.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
But be careful with the light. I will. Don't. We
worry about you. But I have fun.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Okay, okay, all right, I'm not going to pass out.
And here's the good news for all that before him.
The day after that flight, although we learned that women
are better than or better than men, better than men generally, yeah,
and we keep learning. We're continually learning that.

Speaker 7 (54:10):
But certainly when it comes to theologically the g's, yes,
they are better built to handle the g's for some reason, except.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
For the slang term Greg.

Speaker 5 (54:21):
Sixty. Yes on this, you don't need to explain to me.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
I'm surprised. I'm surprised you said g force me. Yeah,
you should have just said.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
Yeah, g Force should be your nickname?

Speaker 7 (54:33):
Ye?

Speaker 5 (54:34):
Any nicknames?

Speaker 3 (54:34):
Yeah? What do you think?

Speaker 5 (54:35):
I got too many names?

Speaker 3 (54:37):
But Colleen after he should like his own nickname.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
After Opening Night, after Geez Wednesday at Radio Row.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
You'll be with us, so we could talk. We could
talk about everything that happened.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
I can't believe we're all going to be in Vegas.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Oh father, it's gonna be great, right, so excited.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
All right, Connie, we're gonna say by Connie, we're gonna
take a break and then we're gonna do some news
and then talk about our talk with Brian Baldinger about
you know, this super Bowl game.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
Love it. We'll be right back. Welcome back.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
What a show so far, our last show here in
Los Angeles. Before we jump on the bird. We don't
get Geez up there, but we were pretty quick on
that plane. A quick little jump over to Vegas, about
a forty five minute flight. No one's complaining, and then
we are touching down and then we are going straight

(55:41):
from mccaren Airport two Radio Row, where we will meet
with Colleen and do the first of four shows from
Las Vegas, culminating, of course with the Super Bowl fifty
eight recap Flagship show.

Speaker 5 (55:55):
That's the show. We have a special big time guest.
Mark will be very excit for Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
I mean, Mark knows who the guest is, but you're
right Ill.

Speaker 5 (56:05):
The listeners don't. And maybe that this person will cancel
and we don't want to put them in a bed.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
But or maybe they was good. It's a good showman,
don't over promise. Could be anyone.

Speaker 5 (56:17):
I'm just happy we're not there now. It's I'm showing
my age. But I am loving that we get there
Wednesday versus I saw everyone there yesterday afternoon at radio.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Yeah, that's a lot.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
I remember being on a boat in New York Harbor
or something for the Peyton Manning press conference on a
Saturday the week before the Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (56:38):
You were sent there because Wes was a day late
because of some sort of flight issues and showed up
in New York with no coat, and he and I
were down in like hack and Sack, New Jersey, while
the two of you were up in.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
About me I believe you were in Hoboken. Well, no,
it was actually Jersey City, and we ran in.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
The process of him trying to get winter code expens.
That was like the subject of way too many conversations.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
He because he yeah, did was the luggage lost?

Speaker 12 (57:07):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (57:08):
His entire fleet of luggage was completely lost. And he
showed up to Jersey City and it was that Super
Bowl was lucky because the temperature and you know, it
started snowing after the game, but it was fine. But
the days leading up where he and I went to
a like a Chili's three nights in a row down
in this like Russian landscape was freezing, absolute dead winter,

(57:28):
and he had no coat and you guys were up
in Manhattan, you know, having like you know, bubbly with
unbelievable I don't know how that how that came to
be caviare every night for Greg and I on top
of the Chrysler Building.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Not quite, but yes, because what happened was I get
a little more shading on that one. The year before,
weirdly was the Niners Raven Super Bowl and we were
in the top rafters of the Superdome and it was
so cold up there. The air conditioning. This is before

(58:03):
the power outage. Maybe this caused the power outage was
so freezingly cold, like shooting down and everyone worked in
NFL media that they actually greenlit people going to the
concession stands to get jackets and hoodies to wear for
the game. I didn't do on myself, but a lot
of people did so. I think Wes in the back

(58:24):
of his mind said, oh, we were able to do that.
Last year he did the same thing and bought like
a one hundred and seventy five dollars Super Bowl winner jacket,
And then the expense report came back with a big
old he gall They reacted sharply to that. And Greg,
as his boss at the time, did you get him
the money?

Speaker 5 (58:42):
I don't remember. I remember, actually, I believe a promise
was made to him that it would be okay from
my boss at the time. I'm not going to throw
him under the bus, friend of ours. But and then
I think it got He was kind of talking out
of his butt like he often did.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Oh that could be so many people.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
All right, let's we have Baldy coming up to break
down some interesting uh plotlines heading into Niners Chiefs on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
But first, let's get caught up on some news. Tick
tack toe.

Speaker 20 (59:16):
Right and has a chance to win.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Here the crowd goes wild. Congratulations with Justin Tucker. That
was awesome.

Speaker 14 (59:33):
Man.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Listen, you know I love kickers and I love me
Brandon Aubrey. I mean, what a what a season he had.
Justin Tucker's maybe my favorite player who's ever lived in
our league.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
I just some notes for that.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
If we're gonna have a kicker tic tac toe, let's
get let's get some bodies in there. Let's get some
crowd in there. Let's get some audience there was.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
It's weird because the rest of the stuff they did
indoors and then certainly on Sunday with the games and
then the extra stuff where they had amazingly sixty thousand
people there, like had an audience. I don't know why
the kicker think.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
That's funnel some of that sixty k into the field
house for the kicker game, or go judge judy it
and pay some people to be there, and then let's
put some music underneath it. If we're looking to change
how the kicking game is viewed. M I mean, that
was a little we could do better, that's all.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Yeah, I'm free reach out to me and I'm happy
to help.

Speaker 6 (01:00:29):
Yeah, it's continued, you know, enthusiastic disrespect for a position
that I think could have had a lot of people cheering.

Speaker 5 (01:00:40):
Or that also, they don't even they literally don't allow
kicking in the flag football game, which is our disrespect,
though the kickers have no rule.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
By the way, when I was doing the speaking, we
were talking about the West thing, the Brian Hoyer wager
with Johnny Manziel, Just to refresh my memory of that
moment in time, because obviously, and if we talked about
that Johnny Manzel documentary recently, that was really obviously illuminating
and how messed up he was behind the scenes. It

(01:01:14):
came down to a exhibition game against Washington. Mike Petten
was trying to figure out who am I going to
go with and he wanted somebody to win the battle.
And obviously Manziel was a wreck, but Hoyer was playing terribly.
He'd missed most of the previous season, and they both
played really poorly in that game. But what gave Hoyer
the edge was, in addition to Manzel struggling, he gave

(01:01:36):
the finger to the Redskins sideline during the game, which
is outrageous.

Speaker 20 (01:01:41):
Like that.

Speaker 6 (01:01:44):
He did, and like that it's it was a moment
in Brown's history where their preseason games were like watched
by way more people than you'd ever imagine. But I
will say one thing about Wes that around week seven
or eight, because I think they started that season around
six and three or seven and three before they lost
all the rest of their games. But Hoyer under Kyle Shanahan,
who was the one year offensive coordinator, was because of

(01:02:06):
play action and the way that Shanahan like does what
he does with quarterbacks, was having this pretty great season.
And what this was back when we could kind of
write whatever we wanted as articles, It was just like,
if you're fascinated by this, go write an article like
Wes wrote this Brian Hoyer Kyle Shanahan article that I
think predates a lot of other people's Shanahan analysis in general.
And despite the fact that he was losing, he lost

(01:02:28):
that sandwich bet he turned around and made this incredible
written piece about it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
And that was kind of Wes in a nutshell.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Yeah, well said and Manzel then also said in that documentary,
like the one place I couldn't go was Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Yeah, a young Kyle Shanahan there, if you just would
add your head on straight. But he did not. All right.
I think Shanahan left because of Manze.

Speaker 6 (01:02:48):
Well, there were yeah, there were a lot of issues
with ownership. He'd asked to leave his contract.

Speaker 5 (01:02:53):
All right, here's the news because the ownership made them
play Manziel.

Speaker 6 (01:02:56):
Yes, and then am got suspended for using you know
the cell Hawkins that you know when Mike Petton called
him to tell him about that. He thought Mike Petton
was joking as like a veteran leaver leader, like, hey,
how do you think everyone will handle this? And he
literally laughed, thought he was being sarcastic.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Let's start with the Washington commanders.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
We are all absolutely thrilled about the dan Quinn hiring now,
and they have also filled their offensive coordinator position hiring
Cardinals coach Cliff former excuse me, Cardinals coach Cliff Kingsbury.
The team announced that on Monday, Kingsbury, some palace intrigue here,
had been very close to joining the Raiders as their
OC until contract talks broke down on Saturday. Washington talked

(01:03:38):
to Kingsbury that day the deal completed the day after that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
I don't know, Greg, I don't know how this works.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
And I saw some percolations on Twitter around something you
sent out that Cliff Kingsbury could be so hot in
demand after you know, quite frankly disastrous tenure, certainly the
end of it with Arizona, and yet here we are two.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
Teams fighting over kings very only one gets them and
it's the Commanders.

Speaker 5 (01:04:02):
It's crazy to me because, like, what about their run offensively?
Did anyone like like they underachieved in terms of what
he had, And it just sounds like he was gonna
sign with the Raiders, and then the Washington became interested,
and since he hadn't signed on the dotted line yet,
they said contract negotiations broke broke down, and he just

(01:04:25):
decided this was a better spot for him. And I'm
rooting for Dan Quinn. I don't know. I don't know
if I'm excited for Cliff Kingsbury to have the number
two overall draft pick.

Speaker 6 (01:04:36):
And he's you know, obviously with USC ties a year ago,
he's tied to Killer Williams, and you wonder if Chicago
goes in a different direction like that could be his quarterback.

Speaker 5 (01:04:46):
They could trade trade their assets up just to go one.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
To two short. They could trade up.

Speaker 6 (01:04:49):
I guess i'm I'm I'm with you in the sense
that like I never I came out of that Cliff
Kingsbury experience because I went into it like this could
be one of these sort of fascinating turning points in
the NFL and was kind of marked by chaos and
like increasing disorganization and upset players by the very static offense.

Speaker 5 (01:05:08):
Like yeah, uncreative, just the same thing over and over,
and Yeah, the thing you were referring to that I
mentioned was like, I still think some coaches really play
the media game hard and the agents obviously do too,
so it's like a combination. And I do actually one
of the things covering the league for twenty years, I
wouldn't have thought that it mattered so much, and now
you realize, like it only matters so much. You have

(01:05:29):
to have some goods, but it can matter. And some
coaches I think, really have a way of befriending a
ton of media. And it's usually not just one or
two guys in women, it's everyone. It's like they're friends
with everyone, and the agent is too, and they get
a lot of good press because of it. I thought
Jeff Fisher was like the old king of it, like

(01:05:50):
Cliff Kingsbury is one of the new kings of it.
And I think that helped him get a job and
helped him be like a hot commodity. The opposite is
whatever happened with Ben Johnson, who turned down this Washington
job apparently, and now Washington and some of the same
people are pumping up Cliff are giving this smear campaign
against Ben Johnson because he turned them down.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
So this is an ESPN report that Johnson had issues
with Commander's ownership after interviewing to be their new head
coach in the wake of Ronriver's firing. Johnson, according to
this report, considered the ownership group led by owner Josh Harris,
seventy six ers owner also as well as Hall of
Famer Magic Johnson, one of the great basketball players of

(01:06:31):
all time. He saw them as quote, basketball guys, and
that's not gonna work.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
You know, it's not gonna work. Football is completely different
than basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
And he believed that they were, according to this report,
overly confident about their football knowledge. The report then also
throughout there that Johnson fared poorly in his interview.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
So back and forth they go.

Speaker 5 (01:06:52):
Well, it's but here's the thing Washington started and then
I don't love you started it that Ben Johnson's agent
very likely is the one that comes back with this
basketball guy stuff. But they started it immediately saying like
he didn't interview. Well, now there's this report in the
Athletic that he he seems not really like a leader,
that he's more just a guy in a lab, you know,

(01:07:13):
cooking up schemes and doesn't deal with But you were
going to hire him, and no one was denying that.
They were literally on the plane to hire him. First
of all, that's completely disrespectful to Aaron Glenn, who they
were also going to interview. It makes it obvious that
that was a sham interview that they were just doing
to check a Rooney real box. So you're saying like, oh,
how is this going to make you?

Speaker 12 (01:07:32):
Know?

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
Ben Johnson? Look around? Like, how does it make how
does it make you look?

Speaker 11 (01:07:36):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
I don't know. This stuff drives me crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
There it does.

Speaker 6 (01:07:40):
I think you're if you're a Commander's fan, like you
just exited a completely darkest Night's great with Dan happened?

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
Okay, leadership.

Speaker 5 (01:07:50):
I remember what I was trying to think of was
part of that athletic report was they were going to
hire Mike McDonald too. They wanted to hire Mike McDonald
and McDonald make Quinn the fourth the third choice, and
McDonald chose the Seahawks over him because, according to Washington,
and I don't necessarily believe this, but that Seattle outspent him.
My guess is the money was good in both places,

(01:08:11):
and McDonald picked the place that just seemed like the better.

Speaker 6 (01:08:13):
It's like, I guess if you're Ben Johnson, like I
why Burn Bridges, Like I know that Wash, I know
that the Washington Organization started a lot of this, but
it's like Ben Johnson's camp has responded a couple different times,
like you're back in the coaching search mix a year
from now, and it's like, all we we now think
different things about you than we did well.

Speaker 5 (01:08:32):
I think well when he kept turning people down to
and he still got.

Speaker 6 (01:08:35):
If you said that, yeah, but chip Kelly also became well.
Chip Kelly was a pretty difficult person to work with
by the end.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Too sure, and was the commanders who leaked at first
that he interviewed poorly.

Speaker 5 (01:08:45):
He's it really started that way.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Yes, so you can kind of understand that if Johnson's
camp wants to say, wait a second, I it's just it's.

Speaker 6 (01:08:54):
All soiled now. We're like, like literally a fortnight ago,
Ben Johnson was like the bell.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
Of the ball.

Speaker 5 (01:08:59):
I just think though the idea though that oh he
turned us down while we were in the plane. That's
not how you do things. I think it's just like
these billionaires not liking getting looking bad and getting turned
down and having like a commoner like say no, we're
actually you're not good.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
What if common what.

Speaker 5 (01:09:18):
If how they look at the coach mark?

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
What if Stu Gotts came out and said I don't
think Sessler had a good show today. Would you come
out publicly and return fire or would you let that
sit untouched? I think my history is unmolested. My history
suggests what I've what I've done with.

Speaker 6 (01:09:33):
You know Stu Gotts's initial slash at my identity, which
was kind of play ball with it in a playful way.
Not I didn't reach out to him personally. It's like
he doesn't really know anything about me. But if he
if he if he dug in, if he dug in, like,
you know, as a trenchant listener and thought I had
a bad show, I'd have to think about that a
little differently, right, But then I'll go, I'll go listen

(01:09:54):
to his show and I'll you know, I'll see what
I think. I'm not trying to start a feud there.
I'm sure is a capable, nice person. Why don't make
don't ask me this question? Is then I just go
down that road.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
That's not helping. I mean, how about that guy? Who
is that guy? You set the table for personal chaos
and I don't need it. The whole key is just
to just keep your mouth shut and let the talking continue,
all right, to know, all right? In other news and
other news.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
News news, let's get on the coaching carousel. That was
merely illuminating. Like the idea that if somebody comes after you.

Speaker 6 (01:10:32):
I know, but you know, anybody, I'll just walk right
into the lions den on the on those situation.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
That's that's all Ben did. Ben was like, whoa, you're
making me look bad. I'm still going to get a
job down the line, Like, yeah, I'm not gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
Stand for this. We have agents.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
You could leak something, Oh you should leak something I
will try that. That's perfect because then you don't have
to be out front.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
But I will. I'll just do it on the on
the slide before we get to Veggas, let's get involved
with some mediationun at it?

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Okay, that would be fun. Like right here, there's this
article I was about to click on, but I didn't.
Greg that connects with you. I would feel like in
a personal way headline Mike Florio rips Adam Schefter's irresponsible
reporting as he reveals broken friendship.

Speaker 5 (01:11:15):
WHOA like, let's get I got a bit. I'd click.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
I know I'm going to, but Rose thought O leak
a couple of things, Grosan. I mean, I thought, great,
can like an old buick. Let's start a fire, all right?
In other news, Yeah, let's spin the carousel.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Uh, Saints hire Clint Kubiak as OC Raiders hire Luke
Getzi as their OC after Cliff says I gon Liam Cohen,
he's the bucks OC.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
The Patriots hire Alex van pilt as OC.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Steve Belichick, one time thought to be a potential heir
to the throne in New England, he gown he goes
to Washington to be their DC, So he's going off
on his own now the Dolphins Hire Ravens assistant Anthony
Weaver is there DC. The Seahawks. There's a guy that's
bounced around. In fact, he was in our building this
past season, Leslie Frasier. I never saw him once, by

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the way.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
I did, you know what's funny, He's gone down in
the locker room.

Speaker 6 (01:12:14):
I saw him having a very hushed conversation with one
member of our media team, and I was thinking, like,
something's going on there, and then bang, this happening.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
He is now the assistant head coach of the Seahawks.
So that's cool, and there you go. Anything on those appointments, fellas.

Speaker 6 (01:12:32):
I would say one thing I know, like Liam Cohen
has been a kind of hot and cold guy. He
was with Kentucky, but like he was Baker Mayfield's offensive
coordinator when Mayfield was with the Rams and executed the
Raiders after that like two day stay with the Rams,
and so I wonder if that helps or hurts or
what like he knows Baker.

Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
May I think it helped. But he is one of
the only guys that's kind of come into working with
McVeigh and then McVeigh count Let's go very quick getsy
felt like a little bit of a backup choice. He
loved Justin Fields, so you do wonder like, is there
a connection there that the Raiders might go get justin Fields?
And then Alex van Pelt just feels like the Patriots

(01:13:13):
are just kind of getting scraps scraps here. Eric enemy
doesn't have a job either right now. Like that, that
would have been a totally different direction for, for instance,
the Patriots to go or even the Saints Clint Kobiak
just because the last name he assume is going to
be good, but you don't really.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Know God point about the enemy, it's that's there is.
I admire him his decision he made because he wanted
to try to ascend and eventually get a head coaching job,
so he left the nest in Kansas City, which was
a nice nest to be in. But now we can backfires.
You end up on a coaching staff where it doesn't

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work out, and now he's floats.

Speaker 5 (01:13:51):
You can always go back, though, And it's crazy to
think Mike McDonald gets hired as a head coach right
three of his assistants are now defensive core. That's outrageous
for one offseason. Weaver is in Miami, right, Dinnard Wilson
is in Tennessee, and then Connor Orr's buddy Zach is
taking over.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
And also a reminder that the NFL is painfully unoriginal.
Everyone just copies each other. And this year it's like
we want the Ravens defense all right, quickly developing tree. Finally,
in the news, it is time Greg to say so
so long to really one of your old all time favorites.
Before Gino Smith, it was Teddy Bridgewater, who is your guy?

(01:14:33):
And he is announced, after a final year of holding
a clipboard in Detroit, that he is retiring from professional football.
He's going into coaching at the high school level. So
never again, Greg, can you tell us that Teddy Bridgewater
would be a great sign for a team looking for
a quarterback?

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
Well, never again.

Speaker 5 (01:14:51):
Way to pitch it as you, No.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
We can take him out of a high school coaching game.

Speaker 5 (01:14:57):
I will miss what a career he's had. Sean Payton
said to Peter King in Monday Morning Quarterback this year
that he was an all time leader and that those
kids were lucky that he was like Ferris Bueller. He
compared it to didn't matter where he goes, everyone follows
Teddy Bridgewater one of the best leaders he's ever been around.

Speaker 7 (01:15:19):
It.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Well, you never heard Mark or I ever disputing his character,
not at all.

Speaker 5 (01:15:25):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
That's that's for damn sure. What he came back from.
And in general, old career, a good guy, olid career.

Speaker 6 (01:15:31):
Solid is as far as you can go win. In
terms of the career though, like to be fair, Greg right, he's.

Speaker 5 (01:15:36):
I would say a good career. I mean better than
the average first round out. Yeah, better than the first
round draft average first round draft pick. Considering the injury,
that's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
That's a certain bar cut you butter knife that one
a little bit. But yes, and it's a shame what
in the injury and how that impacted the trajectory of
his career.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
I still remember doing that show.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
It was at the end of the summer and it
was like, oh my god, all right, here we go,
let's welcome in as we now, it's official. Now we're
going to turn our attention to the big game at
Super Bowl fifty eight coming up. Who do you want
to talk to when you want to get into the
x's and o's and what makes these teams tick Well.
Of course you pick up the phone and you ask

(01:16:19):
for Brian Baldinger, and Baldy was there for us. Here
was a conversation that we had.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
Welcome back. Our next guest is Listen.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
He's in the Hall of Fame for guests for around
the NFL, one of our very favorites. Noan tape dogs
quite like Brian Baldinger. And now we welcome back to
atn Baldy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
What's up, bud.

Speaker 20 (01:16:57):
Well, nice to join you guys. Thanks for the invitation.

Speaker 13 (01:17:01):
You know, we're at the finish line. You know, we're
counting down days here, you know, like ten days left
until this thing's gonna come to a close. Everybody I know,
most of people I know, I should say, are like
they're sad that there's just one game left and there's
not gonna be anything after a Super Bowl Sunday for
a while.

Speaker 20 (01:17:19):
So you know, let's soak it all up right now.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
Is are there weird parallels?

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Because once you hit off season, Baldy, and you're doing
your tropical vacations and you got the women everywhere around you.
In some ways there's a parallel here, but instead of
women all around you, you're doing podcasts, with doe pale
whites such as ourselves.

Speaker 20 (01:17:38):
That's true. That's true.

Speaker 13 (01:17:39):
So whoever wants to, you know, invite me in and
talk about this great American game of ours. Like I
try to make the time. I never really get tired
of doing it because it's just so interesting on so
many different levels. But yes, when it's over, like I
always say, like the bet, the only thing better than
working is not working, you know, if I'm diving with

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reef sharks in Belize two weeks from today, like I'm
not gonna I'm not going to miss any of this,
you know, but while I'm here, I'm gonna give it
everything I got.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
All right, let's get into the game.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Then the game, because I know, and Baldy you heard
it and maybe you felt the same way too. The
way Championship Sunday set up, there was this idea that
Super Bowl Sunday could be really unique, and then instead
what we get as Chiefs Niners, which from one point
of view is a little redundant. From another, I mean,

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doesn't this feel like we're set up for You can
never guarantee classics or games that are going to go
down to the wire, but you look at these teams,
you see them as pretty even.

Speaker 20 (01:18:42):
Yep, I do. I see them pretty even.

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
I see.

Speaker 13 (01:18:45):
I mean, you can pitch a case for both teams.
It's at this stage of this dynasty that the Chiefs
are in the middle of kind of hard to root
against or just think that anybody has a chance against
Mahomes and Andy Reid and Spags and Travis Kelsey. It
just seems hard that anybody's gonna beat him. But if
there's one team that is set up that can do it,

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that has the coaching, the personnel, the talent, like it's
San Francisco and so I feel like we got a
good matchup. But I think any one of the four
we could literally without even thinking, draw up twenty storylines
and we could just like feed off of those storylines
that would just be there. Obviously, if Detroit was here

(01:19:26):
and said, you know, we'd have a field day just
you know, see him another shot at Barry Sanders, you know,
on the sideline, just doing anything, just being Barry Sanders
is fun.

Speaker 20 (01:19:36):
But but this is what we got. So I think
it's it's fascinating and it's repeating.

Speaker 13 (01:19:43):
You know, can this uh this kid at quarterback named
Brock Purdy that nobody seems to really want to respect
at this stage.

Speaker 20 (01:19:52):
Can he rise up and slay you know?

Speaker 13 (01:19:55):
Can he slay mahomes here? And like all those things
are out there, it's gonna be fantast Baldy.

Speaker 6 (01:20:01):
You you have called this week rock party, you titled
and I love this the Silent Assassin and I there
is this discourse and it's been going on all year
and last year. It's like it's too good to be
true because of his draft stock, where he came from.
It's simply he's supported by the team around him. But
it's clear that you see something else. So for the
people out there that believe in brock Purty, what is

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it you see? Why is he the silent Assassin?

Speaker 13 (01:20:26):
Because first of all, he plays the game with no fear.
And you can put up any bad play that he's had.
We've seen a few of them, especially down stretch. It
never affects him in the next series, like he can
flush it the way you have to, and he doesn't.
He doesn't need a psychiatry a sideline to get him
out of any kind of a fure. He doesn't go
into a funk like you know, and and that he

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can make every single throw. You can say, like they
love to attack the middle of the field. That's what
Shanahan does. That's what Mike March did with Kurt Warner.
They attacked the middle of the middle of the field
is dangerous. Balls get tipped, balls get intercepted. You have
to layer throws in the middle of the field. You
have to layer them over linebackers and dropping defensive linemen

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sometimes all that stuff. And yet he makes those throws routine.
He made a throw to Deebo Samuel. We all saw
it at the start of the third quarter, and like
he just hit his fifth step and let it rip
like the way you have to throw it with no fear,
right in the middle of a four man zone. Detroit's
sitting there, and he hit Deebo like it was t ball.
You know, he just like he just took it right

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off the tee and just kept going. And you know
that sort of ability to do that, I mean, I
didn't think Jimmy Garoppolo could do that on with regularity
the way this kid does.

Speaker 20 (01:21:40):
And so I just think whatever they ask him to do,
he can do.

Speaker 13 (01:21:43):
And he's got to scramble for fifty two yards and
three runs in the second half, or whether he's got
to you know, roll out of the pocket and avoid pressure.
He does that, and whether he's got to understand the
situation where just get rid of the ball is better
and to go to the next down.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
He does that.

Speaker 13 (01:21:59):
And then you know, somebody has to feed all of
these talented players that the forty nine ers have, and
he feeds them all. They're all having good seasons. None
of them are not eating it and not feeding off
of this, and so it starts with him.

Speaker 5 (01:22:13):
Yeah, I do want to get to the forty nine
Ers defense, which to me is so different than the
last time these teams played in the Super Bowl. While
we're on Brocket just thinking of this matchup with Spagnolo
and the Chiefs defense, just how do you think Purdy
and Shanahan will react to all the different looks that

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Spagnolo throws at him because Lamar Jackson obviously didn't handle
that very well. And one thing we've seen with this
Chiefs defense, also different than the four or five years ago,
is man, they can change a lot throughout a game,
throughout a week to week, throughout a series. They just
never show you the same thing twice. How do you
think like Perdy and Shanahan deal with that.

Speaker 13 (01:22:54):
I remember one time, I'll just I ask your question, Greg,
but I remember one time Spags was on Jim john
Staff and Philly and they went up to play Tom
Brady and the Patriots. And to your point about versatility
and changing fronts and all that stuff, literally, Jim Johnson
gave Brady a different defense each quarter he started because
they knew he would adjust. At halftime. He goes, we

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can't wait to have time to change. So literally, Jim
Johnson came up with this idea, Let's give him four
different defenses. We'll play a different one each quarter, and
let's see if Brady and the Patriots adjust. So, I
mean even in the playoffs. Now, Spaggs played a totally
different defense against Buffalo in the playoffs, and he did
week fourteen, and so last week he said, well, we'll

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play three big linebackers. We'll play Bolton and Tranquil and Chanal,
and we'll stuff to run, but we'll leave our corners exposed.
And if lamar Cot beat you know, Lugerius or you
know Trent or Jalen or Joshua whoever out there, then
they beat him and they couldn't beat him. You know,
they got one deep ball down the field and one
for a touchdown on a scramble driw. Other than that,

(01:23:58):
like they were oh for eight on some of those
deep shots. So what's I think Spags will start by saying, Okay,
McCaffrey is a guy you got to stop. Like I
feel like and how now, how are they going to
do that? What front are they going to play? Their
their mind is noddy, their minu is a man who
they're down numbers, Like, what is this going to be
their method to basically stop and McCaffrey from getting going

(01:24:20):
and discouraging Shanahan from just feeding him the way they
have all year long? So I mean that's just one take, Greg.
But the good thing is, you know they had the
six rookies a year ago, they all got in the field.
They started four rookies in the Super Bowl. Like all
these kids now are very experienced players. And you know,

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I saw this t shirt down the field in Baltimore
the other day. Spags hates it, but they all have
a T shirt that says in Spags we trust. And
I really feel like they're all like they're all like
they're in the classroom, and they all want to be
in the front row.

Speaker 20 (01:24:56):
They all like, what's he going to do this week?
How are we going to do this? What's what's the plan?
And I think he's just got them all buying in
right now to whatever that plan is.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
I have an idea, by the way, because everybody knows
one of Baldi's greatest hits is and what he regularly
it goes off on social media and virals the hashtag
Baldise breakdowns. We have some very talented people that listen
to this show. In terms of artistic merit. Can we
get someone in the vein of the ins bags we trust,

(01:25:28):
but in Baldi we trust, and then make sure he
gets the the laser eyes also study like tape dogging.
If we can get some type of T shirt design,
maybe we can make a T shirt.

Speaker 20 (01:25:39):
Let's just get the clicker ya the clicker involved.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Actually, you know, I have a great idea, Baldi. Can
you can we get like an action shot of you
with the clicker. We'll screen grab it and people could
use that as the basis for the T shirt. That
would be very helpful.

Speaker 20 (01:25:53):
Absolutely, we'll get that done.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
All right now, My question to you back to the game.
We're always trying to build the Baldy brand because it
can almost be bigger. The Kansas City offense is a
subject of fascination to me and confusion quite frankly, based
on how much they struggle and just thinking about where
they were Christmas Day and that horrific performance against I

(01:26:17):
think against the Raiders, and then once they get to
the playoffs they turn it on and now here they
are on the super Bowl and they took care of
business against Miami and the Cold in the first round.
It was a pretty vintage performance against the Bills in
divisional play. The initial game script was flawless in the
AFC Title Game, two touchdowns on the first two drives,
and then things obviously dried up a little bit for them.

(01:26:40):
When you look at the team that went to the
Super Bowl against the Eagles last year and the team
now that's going to go to the Super Bowl against
the forty nine ers, do you think they have another
vintage performance in them against the San Francisco defense or
this or is this who more or less the Chiefs
are this year where they do enough grind it out
and its spags in the that takes things home, like

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is there Is there a huge game left in the
tank for this team in this core?

Speaker 20 (01:27:05):
Oh for sure.

Speaker 13 (01:27:06):
I remember I had Andy Reid on my podcast like
mid season, and I've known Andy since he came to
Philadelphia nineteen ninety nine. So I told him, I said,
you know, a big red. For the first time since
I've known you, I'm talking more about your defense than
your offense. And he didn't disagree. He didn't disagree with it.
The way they were kind of struggling. Quite frankly, I

(01:27:27):
feel like they're bored. During the regular season. They look
bored sometimes it's just because they know what it's all about.
They know all that matters is how you play in
January and February. And I feel like and some of
them have just been through it for so long now.
Maybe Create Humphrey doesn't feel that way, or Tray Smith,
but I feel in Rashid Rice. But to a certain extent,

(01:27:48):
there is a little bit of fatigue that we got
to get through this thing to where it really counts,
and we just and so now the ball doesn't hit
the ground when it goes to Travis Kelcey. It hit
the ground a bunch, you know, during a regular season,
the ball hit the ground like the game plan was brilliant,
Like how like if we had a stopwatch and how
long the ball was in Mahomes hands for most of
his throws, it was less than a second and a half, Like,

(01:28:11):
because they know Ravens are his own defense, they're just
sitting there waiting. Well, but they'll took all the four
yard throws that you can get and then we'll turn
those four yard throws into four yards or six or
maybe eight yards and we'll just stay on schedule of March.
So that's where they did. Baltimore tightened things up in
the second half, didn't get much, but I think they
to answer your question, yeah, I think they have another

(01:28:32):
venture's performance left in him.

Speaker 6 (01:28:34):
I thought you had an interesting tweet because you'd have
a perspective that, you know, if you outside of youth sports,
you don't know what's happening with a lot of these
teams where they're not on the field plane. You talked
about the way that the Chiefs pregame warm up, how
they practice in general, that there's something about them that
stands out to you, and it's like, whether they were
bored or not, they're very consistent, and like, is that

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different than the Niners. To you, is that different than
other teams in general?

Speaker 13 (01:29:01):
I've watched Rock Party warm up and he's the kind
of an amazing guy in warm ups because you could
like literally go out there to Brock Purdy and pregame
warm ups and you could ask him about that ice
cream shop in ames, Iowa and what his favorite flavor was,
and he's like he's giving you an answer.

Speaker 14 (01:29:17):
You know.

Speaker 13 (01:29:17):
But this routine of the Chiefs looks different to me.
It looks very Peyton Manning. Like from the moment that
Mahomes takes the field, it's like I've done I don't
know this Mahomes has been. I've probably done twenty Chief
games for national radio over the seven years. Like literally,
his routine, it doesn't matter if it's twenty five below

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zero like a couple of weeks ago, or if it
was Sunday in a misty rain. He comes out in
his warm ups three hours for kickoff. He sits on
a bench, he talks to the trainers, he talks to
equipment guys, and then about an hour and a half
before kickoff, he starts. He starts winding that arm up,
and literally, you could take that game versus the game

(01:29:58):
against Buffalo versus the game on Week two against Jacksonville.
It's almost identical. And he must get at least one
hundred throws in, and I just think like to throw obviously,
you know, to Kelsey for the touchdown against Kyle Hamilton.
We've all watched it. It's an amazing throw. But I
felt like he threw that with just the exact same
amount of ease as what you just showed right there.

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And that throw to Travis Kelcey, it feels like it
isn't anything different in the mechanics or how he throws
it or anything else in that pregame warm up versus
the game.

Speaker 20 (01:30:33):
And I don't know that other guys that warm up
treat it the same way.

Speaker 5 (01:30:39):
My favorite warm up I ever saw, and we don't
get on the field anymore at the Super Bowls was
Colin Kaepernick just throwing fastballs as fast as he humanly could,
like forty straight times. I don't know what the purpose
of that was, but it was very exciting to watch
before that Super Bowl. Last one I have for you
ball they just watching these last three games from the
forty nine ers that mattered for them. The Ravens game

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and then these two playoff games. I'm just struck with it.
And you know, what you're seeing better on tape than
any of us do. But what I'm seeing is kind
of shocking to me, is a team that's like maybe
not that physical that if you only watched these three weeks,
you would say for those three weeks, both playoff games,
the Raven games, they got pushed around a little and

(01:31:24):
they didn't play very well. And that's very surprising to me.

Speaker 12 (01:31:27):
Could.

Speaker 5 (01:31:27):
I know they have some weak spots, but they also
have some great players. Do you think the Chiefs offense
could could out tough this forty nine Ers defense?

Speaker 20 (01:31:36):
Definitely?

Speaker 13 (01:31:37):
I mean the only guy that looked like he played
good on Sunday was Bosa. I mean I didn't think Armstead, Hargrave, Givens, Chase.
I didn't think you everyt played good.

Speaker 5 (01:31:46):
Surprising.

Speaker 13 (01:31:47):
I didn't think they had good run fits in the
run game. I mean, Fred Warner's going this way and
there's you know, Arng Burks is going this way and
like to leave in the middle open for David Montgomery.
I'm like, that's not good defense, you know. And I
thought they got pushed around. I didn't think the effort
was great, it wasn't championship effort by a number of players.
And so while Fred Warner does cover up some of

(01:32:08):
the mistakes because of how fast he plays and how
aggressive he is, along with Dre Greenlaw like, I didn't
see a great defense on Sunday. And so the one
thing the Chiefs have leaned on though, is they've become
a good power running football team. Even with you know,
you know, Nick Allegretti in the left guard, they still

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did a good job of pushing Baltimore round at times
on Sunday. And but Checko got some good runs, and
I feel like they've they've leaned on that power run
game a little bit. Donova Smith's a better run blocker
than one Way Morse. So I mean, I just think
if they need to, they'll lean on it. And I
think based on what we just saw, why wouldn't you?

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
M all right Brian Baldinger, who you, of course can check.
He's all over social media at Baldy NFL. He's got
a couple of podcast All City Sports and on Odyssey.

Speaker 3 (01:33:03):
Check those out.

Speaker 5 (01:33:04):
You have a daily podcast, Baldi, like, how do you
have time for a date too? Daily podcast?

Speaker 20 (01:33:09):
Daily podcast?

Speaker 13 (01:33:10):
People should that Best Football Show with Brian Balding podcasts
from two different networks.

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
The room that you're sitting in.

Speaker 13 (01:33:17):
Honestly, I'm just a football whore and whoever wants to
pay me a check like I'm going to work for
Like you know, I like that. I've never read one
of my contracts ever. I'm just like people want me,
You got me.

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
You're normalizing football promiscuity, and I think that's healthy, by
the way, just because I like to live vicariously through you.
So once the season's over and you're going to belieze,
are you more a sniping some mako sharks in the
crow's nests with bikini babes around you? Or are you
more like swimming with the dolphins with the bikini babes

(01:33:50):
around you?

Speaker 19 (01:33:50):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:33:50):
Where do you go on that?

Speaker 12 (01:33:52):
Well?

Speaker 13 (01:33:52):
I I like both species, actually all three species, all
three of all it be honest with you.

Speaker 20 (01:34:01):
I mean I could elaborate, but I think I'll just
leave it right there.

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
I think everybody knows where Baldy's coming out. And finally, Eric,
can we go to full screen on Baldi Baldy. It's
time to get out the clicker. We're going to get
the screenshot. That are talented people. Let's go with Let's
make sure it's in the shot. Everyone to do some
type of take us back to your playing days. You're
focused and intense.

Speaker 20 (01:34:22):
Well, here we go.

Speaker 13 (01:34:23):
Let's like, let's just take a look right here at
Trent Williams and his backside cut off block. And nobody
can emulate this. Nobody knows how to do it. It's
strictly the Trent Williams block. How he could just take
somebody's head and just ram it right into the ground
and McCaffrey cut right off like that.

Speaker 20 (01:34:41):
It's just a beautiful piece of film right there.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
Beautiful and all the all the uh, all of the
proceeds of this T shirt will go to repopulate the
mako shark population.

Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
On the ocean.

Speaker 20 (01:34:54):
There's way too many sharks that aren't.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
Making all right, Baldy, thank you so much, buddy, appreciate
the time. You're such an busy man this time of year,
and we really do appreciate you doing this with us.

Speaker 3 (01:35:03):
Until next time.

Speaker 5 (01:35:04):
Thanks Baldy, Thank you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
All right, there he goes Baldy. We spoke with him
late last week. He's a very busy guy. As we
alluded to, and he gave us some time. Really happy
to talk with him and get dig into this game,
which is going to be so great And I'm really
excited about this. Not in spags we trust and Baldy
we trust.

Speaker 3 (01:35:24):
Merch.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
People always asking about that merch mark, and I feel
like this one could be a big time winner.

Speaker 6 (01:35:29):
He is the perfect candidate for a wide variety of
creative input from people listeners that see the different aspects
to Baldy. You know, there was one thing about him
like I think we've come into this Super Bowl week
a little bit like, oh it's Niners Chiefs again, Like
is it the same old thing.

Speaker 3 (01:35:44):
Well, it's obviously not.

Speaker 6 (01:35:45):
But he elevates your interest in any matchup and whether
it's the merch, it's the game itself.

Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
There's only one Baldy.

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
Cool And just to give you an idea of like
what you're up against Big Funk who's not in today.
But here is a design that he together. You can
check this out on a fast Channel Baldy's breakdowns. I
mean that is I mean, that's what we're looking for.
If you are a creative person and you want to
design a T shirt around Baldy and his greatness, and
look at that finger in the shit.

Speaker 3 (01:36:14):
You gotta get the pinky in the shot.

Speaker 2 (01:36:15):
Eric does that as someone that has a thumb as
you to see the pinky a skew like that?

Speaker 20 (01:36:20):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (01:36:20):
Are you guys part of a club that no one
talks about.

Speaker 11 (01:36:22):
I did think about it when we were recording that interview.
I was like, there are a handful of people here
and several people with faulty digits.

Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
I mean, I mean his came on the battlefield of
you know, the grid, iroon, how did you hurt your finger?
Battlefield of the kitchen?

Speaker 6 (01:36:37):
I don't remember slice of potatoes. Okay, well it's not
the same origin story.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
Also, Eric calling it a faulty digit, I don't believe
you have a faulty Well, sometimes when you're get slow
on the hit, that is a little faulty.

Speaker 3 (01:36:48):
Yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 11 (01:36:49):
It's hard picking up things sometimes that little extra you
can need, that little extra.

Speaker 3 (01:36:52):
It's too real. It's weird. Yeah, too real.

Speaker 5 (01:36:55):
Yeah, I'm sure we're going to end our eleven year
strikeout out filled the attempts at making merch now and
somehow going to be about Baldy.

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
Right, and he gets all the money, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
That was a action packed full show on Monday before
we get on the plane, and so we gave you
a lot to chew on and just want to before
we go one more thing, and we mentioned Chris at
the top of the show and again three years without him,
and it's hard to believe, you know, we've been at
this company for so long now and you get to
know people on a personal level beyond just professional. And

(01:37:29):
we were shocked to learn yesterday that Larry Campbell, who
known by everyone in the office here as LC, who
was like just like a great dude and someone that
was always you know, friendly and great at his job,
he passed away suddenly this week, this past week. So

(01:37:54):
really a Paul and a gray and rainy time in
Los Angeles, Like that's hanging over this building right now
because Larry was a mainstay in that newsroom and in
terms of our NFL network team to so we lose
Larry and we really send our thoughts and our prayers
out to his family.

Speaker 5 (01:38:11):
And yeah, it's a big loss. Such a kind soul,
such a kind guy, and a big part of when
we were first going on the network, working with him
on all those old NFL now hits and whatever the
name of it around the league, when it was around
the league, then around the NFL, and just a great guy.
He will be missed.

Speaker 6 (01:38:31):
Yeah, it's like he was a real supporter of what
we were trying to do. But I also know that
like particularly West down to Marina del Rey would see
Larry out a lot, and like they had a special friendship.
And it's like someone that you just saw like a
week ago, and then you find out, you know, and
it's terrible these days you find overtext that this person
is gone and it's like I can't, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:38:52):
It brings up a lot of stuff for all of us.

Speaker 6 (01:38:54):
And it's like he was a genuinely kind, fun person
and like there's really no one like him, and it's
just another loss.

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
And and I'll I implore you because we I say
it not in jest, because I mean it. But when
when Steve Weisch is on the show, I call him
the conscience of the newsroom. Check out on his on
his feed Twitter feed, Andrew and Steve talking about Larry
because he can say it more eloquently than any of us.

(01:39:25):
So yeah, we'll be in Las Vegas in two days.
Join us for another ride to the super Bowl. Till
then he need to call

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