Pep Talks For Those Who Need Them

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Around the NFL podcast more strange than a Sissler.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Fever dream from the Chris Westling podcast studio, It's Around
the NFL. My name is Dan Heads and I got
heroes here, Greg Rosendal, Mark Sessler and them Feva.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Dreams and to my right.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
During the regular season, it was Wednesdays with Connie Connie.
Now it is not Tuesdays with Maury. Tuesdays with Connie,
Colleen Wilf. It's way more fun, way more fun than
a Mitch album. Page Turner, Hello, Hey, you had a

(00:46):
great idea off seasons rapidly approaching.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Uh huh, I love.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
The off season summer of Connie's almost sure.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Sure the idea of us just dedicating an episode to
breakups in.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
Our personal life breakup stories because we were just telling
some off air and they were quite amusing.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
I think that'd be good, and we have a little
NFL hook to it, you know, there's some breakup that
week and then we dive in.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:13):
Yeah, gotta be careful how you you know, label the
person that you were talking like high school years, right,
These could be alien, sure, they could be adults with children.
At this point, you don't want to revisit that in
the If they're listeners.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
They don't have to be our person. It could be
like a friend crazy breakup.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
We have a lot of breakup.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
Stories where his ex girlfriends are listening to the show
on a regularly not entirely untrue.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
You have women that you've dated that are listening right now.
I have evidence of one.

Speaker 6 (01:43):
Wow, not religiously and probably turned off by the whole concepts.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Like the off seasons here go ahead?

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Is this camp happiness r? Sessler?

Speaker 6 (01:52):
No, it would be posted by the lake that had
multiple errors, but it would be posts that in general.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Pearl Jim just put out verses. I think we'll see
name the doctors on top of the world.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
Save it for the I mean, Dan and I haven't
even had our our spouses ever listened to the show.
And Mark Scott his camp Happiness girl still still checking
in daily. She's like, Oh, I can't wait to hear
about the Steelers offensive coordinator higher What Mark has to say?

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Not sure it's continually If that's the word you just use,
can we get can we have around the show for
that episode? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (02:20):
I would, I'd be happy to check. I don't think
there's any ill will at this point. Again, I think
anyone that I dated from back then has like, you know,
four children at this point and is a completely different person.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
No hard feelings good.

Speaker 6 (02:31):
I'm assuming maybe if you get under it the old sestom,
maybe you buried him and then you get a little
bit deep and you realize there are issues still there.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
Four children each. I mean, Mark only liked him if
they were fertile.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
He's like that. The first thing I ask you stop.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Speaking of uh, you know, art, hard talks and digging
into the emotional emotional side of things. A little later
in today's show, we're going to give some pep talk boks,
some heart to hearts, some tough talks to those who
need them. Colleen, how confident one to ten are you
with the understanding of today's.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Well, you just said pep talks, and when you texted
us you said tough conversations.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
And sometimes a pep talk is a tough conversation. Okay,
But I asked for.

Speaker 6 (03:17):
Clarific I am often in her world about I'm driving
around having no CONCEPTENCEE and I are aligned on this.
We are, and like I I actually had asked for clarification.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Can I offer a clarify that as as host, Colleen
is often a little confused about where to take it.
Mark's all funnel to the same place, Like it doesn't
matter how clear the explanation.

Speaker 6 (03:38):
We said, like I want to I want to make
sure I'm trying to meet what your vision was, and
you said any I think anything goes basically so it's
just a conversation.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
It's just right, Well, somehow will go wrong. I have
a feeling I'll let you very confident.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I feel confident that if you feel confident, we'll all
be confident that this segment went well.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
I think it's going to be great.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
All right, but.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Before we do that, and by the way, today's show
is presented by DraftKings, Nice bang.

Speaker 6 (04:08):
I'd also mention one thing because I think that people
think that we have these easy jobs where here we
know no it just you come in and you just
talk about sports. It's like all four of us simultaneously
on our laptops are dealing with what I would call
like a.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
It's like a category eight like I would.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Issue if if imagine for those old enough, if Y
two K actually happened.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
That's what we're dealing with. And it's and I will
I'm not ik it counts clear traffic lights blinking. We
don't need to we don't need to like dig down
into it.

Speaker 6 (04:42):
But but at any moment, like every three or four minutes,
all of our computers invariably are shutting off and we
have to restart them while our information is contained on screen.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
And yet we continued. It seems seeming no would know they're.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
Well, now they would because we spent two minutes talking
about that heroic we are all are fighting through this.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
I'm always told you get duck. No one needs to
know what's going on underneath the water. You're just swimming
along and it looks very smooth, and all the chaos
is underneath.

Speaker 6 (05:11):
I like to make us look, you know, as valuable
as possible.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
I think to synchronize the security detail these laptops universally.
It feels like a major misstep by the IT department.
It around that it may just sink today's program, But.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
I love it. I love everyone that works in the
IT department.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Here. We have bad days here. This is their bad day,
and we're going to work through it hopefully.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah, I'm confident in that.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
All right, it just can't It just came up there.
It is.

Speaker 6 (05:47):
It's a ready, it's not fictional. It's like we're working
with this in real time.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Let's just in this. Greg's uncomfortable the end of the play.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Tough you know, don't worry, Bub, there's only sixty five
million people watching that game.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Tough one. Bub, Why did you just? Why did you side?
I said that.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
He's fighting through it. He's fighting through a difficult situation.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
He is.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
He's paddling underneath the surface, which we knew his name
would be very easy.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, find that out pract official voice.

Speaker 6 (06:26):
I mean, I think he could walk into a bar
and knock like half the bar out too. It's not
like he was some wimp up there, which as he's
John Raid from a Johnny Smith hanging there. It's like,
you know, Bub, Peter Brady voice cracking like you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
He was sick. He was, he was sick. Let's all
been there.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Let's try to avoid nineteen seventies pop culture references.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
We got to move forward as it we got it.
I won't go there again. We have a young clientele.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Eighty pop culture references just.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Roughly forty years ago.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Let's get to the eighties, preferably nineties. I just had
a Y two K ref.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
He was singing Frasier before the show.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
Let's talk about how Live was a bad band name
for the tenth time on the show.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
The Internet is actually a band name too.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
I mean when Ed Kual checking the guys from York
Pennsylvania said we got to come up with a band
name back in about ninety one, and they're like, Live
it talks about how we're vital and that that's where
our music comes to life.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
And then it's like six years later, you're on AOL
and you got him in Live. They go, was it
live with an ext explanation point too?

Speaker 2 (07:27):
I believe No, it was like Live with some type
of like reverse underscore and overscore over the eye. Well, yeah,
it's tough one that you can't which is not searchable either, a.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Marketing Y two K truly. All right, let's do some
news became a huge mistakes.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
The Atlanta Falcons have named Raheem Morris their new head coach.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Oh you're so unfair, Dan. Raheem Morris, the.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
First former NFL head coach Arthur Blank is hired in
his twenty plus year tenure.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
He is and this is a positive.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
The first full time blackhead coach in the franchise's history,
and he's also notably not Bill Belichick. So the Atlanta
Falcons go with Raheem Morris, who's had previous head coaching
experience with Tampa Bay.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
He was also an interim head coach. Where was he
the interim coach?

Speaker 6 (08:16):
Well, alcoul it was almost hired for that job, that right,
thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
So after fourteen interviews, Colleen, the Falcons go with Raheem Morris.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
How you feeling about this one?

Speaker 4 (08:31):
I mean I kind of think that it's sort of
for Arthur Blank, the fact that he wasn't hired the
last time when they went with Arthur Smith. This is
sort of like, Okay, maybe I made a mistake, like maybe.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
You should have been the head coach the last time.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
But the search that they had, i mean, fourteen candidates,
multiple second interviews, like they almost be exhausted first of
all from the interview process in general. But it's kind
of I just think it's really interesting that they ended
up bringing him back when he was on the coaching
staff there from twenty fifteen to twenty twenty. Obviously he's
known as a defensive guy, but he's coached on both

(09:08):
sides of the ball because in Atlanta he was the
wide receivers coach from twenty sixteen to twenty nineteen. But
it's a totally different roster at this point from when
Raheem Morris was last there. Only six players remain from
his last time there who were under contract for this
upcoming season. And I think that it's kind of interesting

(09:28):
too that both Morris and Terry Fontina the GM will
report directly to Blank, so they cut out Rich McKay
the CEO, and Blank said that McKay will no longer
be involved in day to day football operations. So that
almost reminds me of back when Chip Kelly came in
as the Eagles head coach and Howie Roseman was like

(09:50):
banished to a storage closet essentially, and.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
The other side of the building literally, yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Came back rose from the Ashes. But ultimately, the quarterb will.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Dictate Raheem's success as the head coach there, like Desmond
Ritter and Taylor Heineky, Taylor Heinie, He's going to be
a cap casualty. So whoever they end up bringing in
is going to be the ultimate decider of what happens
with Raheem Morris in his second chance as a head
coach and his second chance with Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Will it be like.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
A Baker Mayfield type because Baker and Raheem were together
in LA. If things don't work out with Baker and
Tampa Bay, since he's a free agent, will they bring
in someone like her cousins or Russell Wilson. So I
think that that is the main thing to really watch.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
He's entirely different, did it?

Speaker 3 (10:37):
That's all I got?

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Human, That's a lot. That was good.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
Look, he was one of the youngest head coaches in
NFL history when he took that Bucks job. He was
thirty three years old.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Remember the youngree Bucks.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
It was two thousand Hungary, it was two thousand and nine.
They went ten and six in his second year with
Josh Johnson as his quarterback.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
That's the coach of the year, Josh Freeman. Rather, no,
I don't think so, but he definitely was. I remember
the best one we ended up seeing an NFL mark
and off that year.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
He was like stock up. Yes, he was seen as
one of the great young coaches in the least.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
And that was now what thirteen years ago, and all
you hear from players, from coaches, from everyone. He's beloved
and like you, hear it enough year after year after
year that he, like Jalen Ramsey says he's the best
coach he's ever had. All these different coaches say, all
these different players say, this is the best coach I
ever had. And a lot of it is like leader
of men, he has a better idea of how different

(11:29):
organizations work. I think this is a great way to
get your second job, that you had that much amount
of time in between, and you saw that many different
sort of setups under Dan Quinn in Atlanta, under Sean
McVeigh in Los Angeles, and the staff I think that
he sold them on also was probably a big part
of that. Zach Robinson is offensive coordinator. He was a

(11:51):
highly respected assistant in Los Angeles who's kind of seen
as the next offensive guy from that tree, and he
very tight with Morris, and Morris sold them on like
he's gonna come with me, He'll take this job instead
of all the other ones, like the Patriots were hot
after him, the Saints, all these other ones, And that's
part of it. And then more than more than all that,

(12:12):
like they know him, they know him and they like him,
and so there's familiarity there that I think he had
that the other eight or nine Second Interview candidates didn't have.
Bill Belichick was never getting this job after he left
the Second Interview and he wasn't hired. I think people
have kind of been like, I can't believe they didn't
hire Belichick. I know you said that to and I
get that, But that decision was made two weeks ago

(12:33):
because Belichick, like the second Belichick left that Second Interview
and he wasn't the choice, and they continued tow they
clearly weren't hiring him, Like, if you're hiring Bill Belichick,
you just hire him. He came in with whatever he
wanted the setup to be, they didn't agree with it
for whatever reason, and so then out of the other
thirteen choices, to me, Morris makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 6 (12:52):
I think it was more of a Belichick saying probably
like I don't want to work with a Terry Fott know,
the one we don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
We don't know the history around Belichick, we don't even
know like all this talk around Belichick, like he wants
to make all the decisions, all this different stuff.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
We're all just kind of assuming that and we don't know.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
I loved it from I don't why we didn't hear
report from the Washington Post that he was planning to
bring Patricia, Joe Judge and possibly Joshua.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Okay, so members of the step. But I mean in
terms of the day to day football.

Speaker 6 (13:21):
Up, yeah, I think it's just like Belichick basically not
moving off of Belichick thinking.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
And that's fine.

Speaker 6 (13:27):
I'm not saying that like there was other people saying
that Arthur Blank actually was pretty resolute on giving him
a real chance and wanting to bring Belichick in.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
Oh yeah, I think they want. I think they supposedly
in November this was their plan. They've been working on
Belichick for months and something made them change their mind.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
But I don't think Morris is like this deep second place,
because I was listening to Peter King, who had talked
to a ton of people over years, and was like,
he said that Raheem Morris and he wasn't pumping him
up that if you ranked like coaches, what in terms
of the higher review that he gets they got from
people that work with him over years and years, that
Raheem Morris was easy top five and that players were

(14:05):
actually agitated when he left the Falcons the last time.
That to your point, like Greg he that's how he
makes players feeling. So I do like the coach that
doesn't just get hired like the next cycle after they
get fired and they failed. It's like he has gone
and done everything. If you're saying that Mike McCarthy went
and had a one year away sojourn to learn about

(14:25):
other ways to do things, like Morris has gone half
of his career doing that. And I think it's a
good fit because he fits in an organization that he
already fitted well.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
I mean, just be clear, I don't think Raheem Morris
is gonna necessarily I'm not saying he's a.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
From a Belichick angle.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
I'm just saying I find it difficult to wrap my
head around, especially if it's true that blanket circled Belichick
months and months ago.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
That to change your mind and hire, yes, he's what
would make you change your mind, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
We don't know eating like that at a certain point, Listen,
I'm looking at the everything about this, the fact that
they spoke with fourteen different people, the general trajectory of
this organization since twenty eight three, and I just I
can't give them the benef of the doubt that they
haven't galaxy brained their way into an absurd decision. And

(15:17):
maybe everyone else is right, because I know this is
now the popular thinking. Bill is over the hill, Bill
demands control. Bill is a guy that he comes in
and nobody can work with him because he's a certain way.
And maybe that is all true, or maybe people are
having the chance to hire Bill Belichick right now and
they've gotten in their mind so wrapped around the negatives

(15:38):
that they don't see what's right in front of them,
which is the most successful head coach who has ever lived.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
That's all.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
And I feel bad because it was kind of a
d move for me to be negative about Raheem when
I set the story up, But it's because I think
it's outrageous in a coaching cycle where there's been what
eight openings that this guy is gonna.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
Be out of, Well, they're there the only ones even
that way, literally, And I think that was I heard that,
and this makes sense to me that that might have
been a factor and it shouldn't be. And it does
point to what you're saying, the Falcons being a bad organization.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Maybe is like I think they.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
Were a little spooke that literally no one else had
any interest in him.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
They're like, that shouldn't be Ye, you're discuss should processed
in you should have your own mind.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
We have no idea what We don't know that either.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
We don't know a lot of things, but you don't
know what his demands were or anything like that.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
But I know enough about Bill Belichick and his history
in New England, and I've listened to Tom Kerran, who
knows him as well as anyone, talking about It's like,
he's not going to be like, oh yeah, I'll like
I'll like report to Rich McKay or I'll like work
with Terry Fi Like, of course he's not doing that,
Like that's not going to be an option for him
at this stage of his career.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
But also Raheem has to be attractive because of his
experience there, and obviously Arthur Blank knows him so well.
I was talking to DiAngelo Hall about this because when
when d Hall was doing the morning show with me,
Good Morning Football, and that was when he when let's
see what year was that when Morris was the interim

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head coach.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Was that twenty twenty twenty?

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Yeah, and Dee Hall absolutely loved Raheem then and he
was standing on the table for him then to get
the job. And it was like from week after week
as soon as he took over as the interim and
I was like, are you going to go and work
in Atlanta? But he's under contract still in Carolina, d
Hall is, but he was just saying he loves Raheem
and he really thinks that he a great job, relates

(17:26):
to the players.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
And he is kind of sneakily like a big Shanahan
slash mcmay tree guy because he was on that Washington staff,
that the original Shannon staff. He was with Kyle Shanahan
and he was the receivers coach during twenty three. He
was on the offensive side of the ball during that
and he was just twice he was on the offensive
and then he was just with McVeigh, you know. So

(17:48):
he is from that tree that everyone's kind of going.
And I heard the Rams pushed really hard too, saying
like they loved him. They talked him up and to
their own detriment because they lose Zach Robinson and he's
taking some more staff members from the Rams.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
They do get two third round, they do get that
Sentory picks. That does help.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
That's how it goes. All right, let's move on. This
is a surprise that broke right before we started. Ben
Johnson is not leaving the Detroit Lions. The offensive coordinator
informed the Seahawks and Commanders. Those are the two teams
that if you have to hire a coach that he's
staying in Detroit. That's from Tom Pellisero and Seattle and Washington.

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As I said, they have those two vacancies. He was
scheduled to meet with both clubs for interviews this week,
but instead of the thirty seven year old will stay
in Detroit.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Mark.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
This is obviously a big lift for the Lions at
a time where they could use some good news to
keep that continuity with the offense.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
And also we'll just I'll just say it a risk for.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Ben Johnson because you don't year to year, especially as
an OC, you never know how you know, your public
perception could change. He was a very hot name this year,
He'll probably be a hot name next year, but he
chooses to stay home and great news for the Lions.

Speaker 6 (19:01):
It we have seen coaches who were high flyers and
about to get hired make a you know, a philosophical
choice to pass stay where they are and then their
names fade if the you know, if the Lions were
to crash and burn next season, like benj it's all
about like hype and Kellen Moore as an example, I
mean Kellen Moore, Yes.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
He's getting James Byron left, which supposedly turned down the
Doug Peterson job in Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
He's led really not even in a league right, fade fast.

Speaker 6 (19:28):
But you know, chefter at a nugget that Ben Johnson
also was asking for a lot of money. That could
also just be spin and pr and you know, people
saying things, but his asking price was very high. But
I think if you're him and you look at the
team that you're on right now, and the way it's built,
like the other wilderness you could be in is to
go to a team and have like Geno Smith melt away,

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or go to Washington and pick the wrong quarterback and
then you're in a terrible situation and everyone's pointing fingers
at you.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
You can stay like the center of the party.

Speaker 6 (19:59):
If you go to Detroit, they go back to the
playoffs and you got a chance at eight other teams
next sup.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
As was trying to say in our conversation with Cynthia
on Thursday, We're we talk about canalas like, if you
really believe in your abilities. I'm not saying this has
happened what happened with him, but it's okay to pass
on a job opening like the one in Carolina, which
is very dicey if you want something that is more
suited for you or feels like a better landing spot.
Can always takes an obvious risk with Carolina. Ben Johnson

(20:27):
is going the other route.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, Dave Canalis, huh, you're.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Doing good with the with the canal Anala.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
I mean, this is now, what the second time that
Ben Johnson has turned down potential head coaching opportunities.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
We don't know like.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
If he would have gotten these jobs or not, but
since he's staying, that's such a boon for Dan Campbell
now that he doesn't have to go out and find
someone else to be a creative play caller that knows
these players that had this success, and it just feels
like if they're able to keep this in place and
go far again, then Ben Johnson has even more of

(21:02):
a leg to stand on with these head coaching opportunities.
So I just think it speaks volumes of the culture
in Detroit too, of what they've been able to build
and for Ben Johnson to see when he started with Detroit,
because he's seen it really dark there. He's seen dark
times and he's seen the turnaround. And to your point, Dan, yeah,

(21:24):
go to a place that has to that. He would
have to do that again, that's not easy. That's not
an easy thing to turn around, to change people's mindset
and to go to another toxic place and to make
it a winning atmosphere, Like that's not easy, and like.

Speaker 6 (21:39):
Not every thirty seven year old is maybe inside like
measuring where they're at like ready to do this. Like
I know that everyone getting is getting hired at younger,
like there are I'm we talked. I talked to Ian
one time and he talked about like a certain head
coach candidate reached out saying like like I like that
people see me this way, but I feel like I
need more experience.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
And it's like that's like Raheem Morris the f first
time he's talked about it.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah, he wasn't really ready for it.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
And I think it's awesome because I just like the
idea that someone in this society essentially can decide like
there are more things better, more important than money. Like
I think he's making a personal choice that I don't
know if it's about readiness, I don't know anything like that.
To me, it's like I have this situation that I
truly love, that we're trying to accomplish something special, that

(22:24):
I've been here for five years, that I know this
is great and whatever is going to be next in
my career is gonna be next in my career. But man,
like this is amazing right now, and I wanna I
want to do it even more, even if I'm gonna
make less money this year, Like I'm not freaking going poor.
I have more than enough money to live off and

(22:45):
then some. And I'm confident in myself too if you're
Ben Jonson that like there should be opportunities in the future,
whatever they were gonna be, and I'm gonna just do
this because that gives me like a higher standard of
living and like what matters more to me, that's very
happiness Like that, Like imagine if they do get to
the Super Bowl next year, and if they don't, like

(23:06):
he's gonna have coordinator jobs and he's gonna have more
money than anyone should possibly have in like the world
for the rest of his life anyways, right.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
And if the Chargers would who have Justin Herbert or
you know, if the Bengals and Joe Burrow there was
an opening, he probably would take the jump.

Speaker 5 (23:21):
But maybe cowbody this Cowboys Eagles next year, like who
knows what's.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Going I like it.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
I like then Ben Johnson knows he should still be
in the catbird seat next year.

Speaker 5 (23:34):
He should be Aaron Glenn is interviewing for that Washington job.
By the way, still luck Air and Washington said they
were surprised, according to Adam Schefter, so they they were
not expecting.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Speaking of Kellen Moore, he formerly of the Cowboys and
the Chargers, is now the offensive coordinator of the Eagles,
so he joins app coaching staff. Also, this happened a couple.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Of days ago.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Big Fangio, after a rocky one year tenure in Miami,
lands in Philadelphia, so you got more and Fangio and
Connie with the Eagles here. They made the decision to
stick with your boy, Sirianni. And they've now surrounded him
with very probably expensive and successful coordinators, So that was

(24:23):
the move they reinforced, let's say, the foundation around Sirianni,
which I kind.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Of get makes sense.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, it's almost like Sirianni is giving Brandon Staley vibes
in this situation because Kellen Moore goes there.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
And it's like, was this sort of a forced move.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
On Sirianni by Howie Roseman, Jeffrey Lorie.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
He probably doesn't have a lot of leverage in the
organization right.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Now, Howie mus So.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
I mean, the Eagles have wanted more for a while though,
Like they interviewed him to be the head coach in
twenty twenty one and then went with Sirianni instead, And
now that they're bringing in more, we're under Siri. That's
why it just feels like this is sort of an
arranged marriage and that Sirianni is on an even shorter leash.
And I mean, frankly, a lot of people thought that

(25:10):
he wasn't even gonna be in Philadelphia again, despite his record,
despite going to the Super Bowl last year. I think
it it's I like the move just because the with Sirianni,
they never used motions or shifts and they never really
mixed up the offense that way, and that's what Kellen

(25:30):
Moore does. That's what he's good at. The knock on
more is that he doesn't really run the ball, so
that was sort of the issue at a lot of
times last year in Philadelphia. So we'll have to see
how that goes. But Moore's offenses have traditionally handled the
blitz really well. That was another area that the Eagles
offense were lacking in. If it goes well, though, Kellen Moore,

(25:51):
I guess, will probably end up getting head coaching opportunities
because that would mean that they would keep Siriani if
things do work out and they have success. So it's
just sort of an interesting play.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
It reminds me a ton of when they.

Speaker 5 (26:05):
Moved Howie to the other side of the building, because
it all seems it doesn't even seem it's clearly a
Jeff Loriy think. I don't even think it's rope. I mean,
it's the two of them working together. They're the two
most powerful guys in the in the building. But I
think Jeff Lori was convinced by Siria like, we're gonna
keep you, but it's not gonna be your offense anymore.
We want to update and modernize, and so we want

(26:26):
we want you to run the whole thing, but you're
gonna do it with guys that are unfamiliar to because
it's not his offense anymore. He is now out of
his tree and he it does seem a little awkward
having two great interim head coaching candidates right on the roster,
But it's a proven year for Kellen Moore too. I'm
sure he would have gotten a different job in this cycle.
There's still a lot of coordinator jobs open, but his

(26:48):
stock is not nearly as high. Like the Chargers were
totally disappointing last year on offense. Got you know, he
started like a house on fire, and that happened a
lot in Dallas, where they'd start well and they finished poorly.
So if that's what happened with Kellen Moore in Dallas,
it's what happened with him in LA.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
So he's got a lot to prove too.

Speaker 6 (27:04):
I mean it's I have the Polder type stuff because
either you're looking at him as one of the most
like pressure packed new coordinators in the league based on
the fact that like there's a lot of questions around
everyone on that offense. But also things melted down so
poorly and became such a nuclear winner as the regular
season ended that like, maybe it can't get a lot worse.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
And they have great players, Like they still have really
great players on offense, which matters.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
Awkward vibes there right all around it was it was
an awkward end to the season and now it just
feels like an awkward off season now too.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah, and the stability around Philly, as you're saying, is
not great. But Kellen Moore is thinking to himself, you know,
maybe this ends with me being the interim coach and
maybe we've seen, as we saw in Las Vegas as
an example, a recent example, I keep the job if
I do well. It's another it's a backdoor way to
get a job.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
Head coach also means that, like you started, stuff is
terrible and you've got to fix all that probably in
four or five weeks, and that's tough, and Kellen Moore's mind,
probably the better outcome is even like Jalen hurts his
back of the m VP mix, We're awesome and I'm
a head coach a year right now.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Or make all those guys terrible in the first month
you just fired and then that's a move. That's what
Antonio Pierce did. Don't don't get it twisted.

Speaker 6 (28:21):
That is not what I don't think takes on the
coach calculated.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
I watched that Sirianni presser by the way, and Sirianni
city next to Howie.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
They were just with like a gun in his ribs.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
He just felt very like, I'm at I'm like the
kid now at the adults table, and it was just
like Tony, everything down and.

Speaker 6 (28:42):
Kids have no responsibility and everything provided for them.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
So that sounds like serious.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
I kind of can't wait for the Combine press conferences
to happen.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
You think they'll let him do that?

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Well, and then Dom will be there, big Dom.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
What did they do the thing where I just put
him on the lap and then do the voice whose lap?

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Well?

Speaker 2 (28:59):
You Howie, Howie he puts Sirianni on his lap?

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Does mem five? Well?

Speaker 6 (29:05):
Yeah, I mean, but it's visually awkward to go for it.
Why not adults on child's lap?

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Not.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Let's spend through the rest of us real quick. And
if you if you must share hot takes, please do uh,
but but be smart about them and concise. Arthur Smith
expected to be hired by the Steelers as their offensive
coordinator John Harbaugh or Jim Harbaugh. Excuse me, you got
to get used to that again. Who's back in the
NFL At the Chargers. He brings Michigan DC Jesse Minter

(29:33):
with him. Uh, he will be yes run their defensive
Browns mark your Brown's hired Ken Dorsey as their offensive coordinator.
The Bills promote Joe Brady from interim to full time
OC after a successful takeover during last season. And Bobby
Bobbick as Bills d C. Is that right, bobbych Rabbit

(29:56):
and anything on those personnel moves.

Speaker 6 (30:00):
I don't love Arthur Smith potentially still not having a quarterback,
but I do think he's probably just a better OC
than head coach.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
In general. I think it's kind of fun.

Speaker 5 (30:08):
I mean, I know Martha's Smith was frustrating in Atlanta,
but he's an upgrade from what's been going on. I remember,
and he was fun as a coordinator in Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
So great Bigger was calling for his return to Nashville.
So you know, he did have a lot of success.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
And I thought it was telling. The ownership there in
Pittsburgh was like, we're sick of losing like he was
seeing that we have some urgency here. We're gonna give
Tomlin a long term contract, but we have some urgency
to get past what's going on.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
And by that I read like.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
We're gonna bring in They might be doing a little
bit more of a Jeffrey Lurry thing where they're bringing
in some people from the outside. After hearing from Tomlin
over and over, it's like, we're gonna do how we're
gonna do. Tomlin, I think is being made to maybe
open open up the common.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
He worried for George Pickens because like Arthur Smith never
utilized his top guys like that was always He.

Speaker 6 (30:58):
Did a nice job with aj Brown, though I thought, yeah,
But but I caught it right, like there's some residual
concern just based on something about him car crash in
the press conferences where like being a head coach, it
did seem too stressful for him, and maybe it all
like impacted like that he fits well as a coordinator.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
I see that impacted his to get increasingly frustrated by
the aspects of the job. Man, if you put Kirk
Cousins in Pittsburgh and gave him Arthur Smith, the Steelers
are cooking with grease? Would you though, Mark I poured them? Yes,
why do I give you? And finally chiefs.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Uh why the shot? No, I'm saying because he's you know,
he's a brand. I don't need to worry about. I'm
fine because well you're asking me. You trying to lead
me into a man's plain hit.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Why are you so defensive?

Speaker 6 (31:48):
Why are you yelling when the Browns can you know,
hire the coordinator that was fired Josh Allen?

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Is this quarterback? You got to do it? Charles ameniheue?
What were you saying? Nothing? I was being.

Speaker 5 (32:03):
Ken Dorsey, I like, is just like walk about a
low octane high? But it's for Stefanski. So these these
like like Babbage under Sean mcderby, What does that really matter?

Speaker 1 (32:13):
He's the defensive.

Speaker 6 (32:14):
When you hire an oc and it gets shoved into
the speed round, I think it says, it says.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
But he's not calling the plays like Stefanski is. Greg.

Speaker 6 (32:20):
I do understand. I know, so I'm saying low octane higher. Yes,
I do understand that he's not calling people.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Do love themselves some? Jesse minter? Are we still talking about?
You know? Because does anyone remember what I said no,
we don't. Does anyone care about our speed anything? I
don't know?

Speaker 2 (32:35):
All right, go ahead, Greg, let's talk about Jesse Minter now, well,
because like let's get those takes that need to be
out there.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Go ahead. Imagine if you were a Charger change, if.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
I was a jetsman, I'd love to hear we played
that book as well. Go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
You're still mad about her saying you were she she
guessed let me so easily. You emotionally manipulated me. Honest,
we're accused of splaining that's never.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
A postman and cause a little chaos, and you're the joker.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
You're welcome, Go ahead, great, go ahead, When last time
to prepare you have to go chaos?

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Do you understand that the last DC that Jim Harbough
found in Michigan was Mike McDonald, who we knew nothing
about and came to the NFL and was the best
defensive coach in the league almost immediately. And everyone says
this about Minter too. So there is something about Harbor
that he develops coaches very well, and he needs a
good defensive coach.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Well. Minter was also with the Ravens, so his brother.

Speaker 5 (33:32):
There's something about these Harvy's. They know what to do,
so anything. What was your Dorsey comment.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
I don't need to go back to that place.

Speaker 6 (33:41):
I'm trying to with your I think your orderly and
sensible request that we I'm.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Just trying to get to the second part of the show,
and Colleen is on a time crunch, so I'm gonna
move on now.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Charles and many hutre's a I'm gonna time crunch too,
just to let you know.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Always so you don't really have any where to go.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
But you're on a tig after this.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
It's just smoke. You just say this smoke.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Here's Andy Reid, by the way, on Kadarius Tony who
who said that he wasn't injured and the chiefs are
lying and blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Here's Andy Reid.

Speaker 7 (34:18):
You know obviously he's been on the injury reports, so
I mean I got that part as uh that's not
made up by any means. But he's been working through
some things and he'll, uh you know, he'll be back
out there.

Speaker 6 (34:35):
I will saying, I like, have him back out Go
watch this and then go take an hour and read
about like body language when people. I'm not saying that
he's I think he's took our lot. He's in a
sticky situation. But I always like to see where people's
eyes go and they respond to questions because the upper
left thing is like I'm thinking, I'm processing. Sometimes it's
like I'm not telling you exactly everything I know.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
You know, Hindy read it.

Speaker 5 (34:57):
He he sort of invites this, Ki, it's true.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
I think you're right.

Speaker 6 (35:01):
Yeah, Like they're like they're they're like deep studies about them.
I would just say the FBI and the CIA if
I were.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Andy read knowing what I know about what Canarisny can
provide to my team this year?

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Go take a walk.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Right, totally agree? What do you I'll see you back
at practice. Bye bye. And I know he made big
plays in the super Bowl last year, but this ain't
last year. It's a little been a nightmare for them.
But they invite that. They that is the Chiefs. It
sort of gets lost in the trouble.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
No one brings in more what in the draft would
be called character concerns than the Chiefs. Literally Umana who
who tore his acl and is going to miss the
super Bowl now and was a really good starter for
you know it wasn't available because he was arrested for
domestic battery and assault earlier this year. Like, that's the
type of players that the Chiefs very often bring in

(35:51):
and then think things come with it.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
And that's what's happening in the news. Real quick, it's
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(36:13):
Bill Simmons is known to say, one and a half
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is forty seven and a half.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
All right, Greg? When you look at.

Speaker 5 (36:23):
This money line, minus twenty for the Niners. And I've
listened to a lot of Simmons over the year, for
one's heard that minus one twenty for them.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Oh yeah, if you were to pick one of these
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Speaker 1 (36:37):
Give me all the pacheckos.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
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for MVP. I'm just saying, like, if you think the
Chiefs are gonna win, can't you imagine this forty nine
Ers defense which has been bad week after week after week,
stopping the run that like they give up like two

(36:59):
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Speaker 6 (37:00):
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Speaker 2 (37:03):
How do you beat the Niners? You got to keep
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Speaker 4 (37:10):
It's my favorite descriptor of Tom chump chump, chump chump.

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Speaker 2 (37:32):
All right, let's uh take a break, and when we
get back, PEP talks for those who need them, some
hard conversations. Oh no, difficult ones, all right, welcome back.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Uh, I just got another prompt for security.

Speaker 6 (37:49):
I've learned how to navigate around it.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
This tel me help me.

Speaker 5 (37:53):
Well, okay, after this show later on, I think you
need to handle this and just bite the bullet.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
I tried it already. Connected this that you might I'm
gonna have to go. I did that too empty.

Speaker 6 (38:04):
I'd bring the issue to Las Vegas with you and
see if maneuver around it. But you said you have
a workaround. That's good in the moment. Yeah, but it's not.
It's not content for the show. Do you want to
go on a trip together hand in hand to it afterwards?

Speaker 1 (38:17):
I don't time. What's going on? I don't know. I
have someone else. I'll come in and win. You know,
it's the dead zone before the show. What do you
have going on after the show? Got to pack schedule,
come up with.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Something just so much?

Speaker 1 (38:29):
I can't even that's a doctor. All right, here we go.
Let's get to it. Not all wrong.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
PEP talks for those who need them. Colleen, you are
in therapy yourself as you are. You've shared with the show.
It is perfectly healthy for the mind and body. So uh,
don't connected now. What you can do now, what you
can do is take what you've learned in that realm. Yeah,
and use that on someone in the NFL who could

(38:56):
use it.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Okay, okay, go ahead, all right, Well, you know I
don't I don't love having tough conversations.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
This is not my favorite thing to do.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
I avoid conflict at every possible turn.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
But eventually, oh.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Though it was kind of nice what you did with
Dana liter earlier.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
I just done right exactly. But there comes a point where,
like the bill comes due, and you have to face
these things you have to in order to get through something.
You need to go straight through and process it. There's
no way you can get around it. And when you
have a long history with someone or something, that makes

(39:35):
it really difficult because a lot of times being familiar
and having a habit, like it's something that you go
back to doing all the time, but that doesn't necessarily
mean that it's good for you or it's positive.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
It's just familiar.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
So a lot of times you have to break the
cycle and you have to break that and I just,
you know, I don't love change, but change is necessary
for growth.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
I feel like I'm in the office with you and
Suzanne right now.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
I feel like I should have been a psychologists, whatever.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
So I really do appreciate the time that I had
with this thing, but now it's time to move on
and we need to stop using Roman numerals.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Oh I love this.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
I'm so done with Roman numerals. I learned them in
grade school and I never needed them again until I
started working at the NFL, and it would just be
random bits of copy that I wouldn't know were coming,
and a producer would hand me a piece of paper
or just say read the prompter, or it's in the script,

(40:37):
just read it, and which I hate because I don't
like to just read something cold that someone else wrote
that I don't know what I'm saying. That's not my vibe,
that's not what I do. I don't ever have someone
else write stuff for me. I write all my own stuff.
And I would never use a Roman numeral for someone
that's reading something.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Cold live on the air.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
When was the last time that you guys even used
a Roman numeral? Like, we're not using Latin, like there's
no other Like if you're listening to a football game,
it's not like they would speak Latin for the penalties.

Speaker 5 (41:10):
Like in high school? What why big waste? Exactly an
easy grade.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
The Roman numerals need to stop.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
And I thought Super Bowl fifty was going to be
the turning point because it was the first time that
they didn't use a Roman numeral for the Super Bowl.
And sure it looks nice with like you know when
you're using a lot of x's and v's and i's,
but you know, there just comes a time to move on,
and I think that time is now and we need
to drop the Roman numerals from society.

Speaker 6 (41:37):
Wow, I think it's you know, it's marketing gold because
it got back when it was like xx and like
even a child's like super Bowl twenty. But now where
it's like my mind is scrambled. We aren't a Roman culture.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
We're not HARKing back to something that came from deep like.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Our origins are in some way, especially the idea of
the the arena and the gladiators of the sport.

Speaker 6 (41:57):
That's fair, but like i'd say, like are called sure
comes from every culture at this point. So they're like
we're melting pot if such a nod to rome, like
oh my thing is bigger, like when it got to
fifty and you're making you fifty six or fifty eight
or then I'm trying to remember what Super Bowl it
was like, I literally can't remember the Super Bowl from
four years ago because it's been put through a Roman

(42:18):
number machine.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
I'm I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
No, it shouldn't have an L in it, like L
is for loss, so I don't like, say on.

Speaker 5 (42:25):
The lower third this week, it's also for love. On
NFL network, they used the number on a graphic. It
was like during they did one of the shows during
the day, maybe it was Insiders, and I was like,
maybe this maybe they're starting to hear you because I'm
with you.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
This needs to change.

Speaker 5 (42:42):
It was a marketing gimmick when NFL was not popular
at all and it was going to be this big
thing AFL versus NFL, and no one cared.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
People watch that a little bit on TV, like literally
no one even showed up for the game, and they're
just trying to get some some pop into it.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Make it a gladiator. They played it in the coll
see him.

Speaker 5 (43:00):
I think that was all connected, and so they put
the one and now forget.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
It any research. There are just connecting docs.

Speaker 5 (43:07):
I like, oh, I've read this is from America's game.
Michael McCambridge.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Yes, what I'm saying, is that where the Roman u
erals because they played at the coliseum.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
That I don't know, but it would make sense the
more that they're like, they were trying to pump it
up into this big thing because people weren't really into
the AFL. People weren't that into professional football, but they
definitely weren't into the and there was this new thing,
and everyone thought, well, who cares about this game? The
NFL championship already happened. They sort of saw this as
like a preseason game that's being played after, you know,

(43:36):
and so they gave it a little more half.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
But I don't know if that which is why, Yeah,
what happened in Super Bowl three with name it was
so important because when the AFL beat the NFL, it
legitimized that league and then they came together. Now that's it.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
I think I've probably done a similar monologue on the show.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
I kind of hazily remember it years ago.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
But now about banning Roman numerals, But now I'm back
on the other side.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
I think it's tradition and uh, and here's and here's
the other thing. Here's the other thing.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
We had the chance, as we pointed out, they went
with the number fifty for San Francisco, and that was
a huge to do. The celebration around the fiftieth anniversary.
The year after that and the next few years after
that were horrendous orderline embarrassing to use.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
L one L I L. I just looked to the eye.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
If they did, if they had the chance to move,
and they didn't, guess what, We're not going to get
one hundred until. I mean, we're not going to get
the number back until one hundred, and we're even gonna
be alive that the next time you see one hundred
a number next to a super Bowl the figure that
is probably when it's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
I will say unlikely would be the answer, but possibly
the other. In professional wrestling, WrestleMania almost.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Certainly took it after the Super Bowl, and they used
Roman number numerals up to thirty before they decided it
doesn't really work anymore.

Speaker 6 (44:58):
So, especially wrestling fans don't operate in that mode. Mentally,
i'd say, why do you say that? I don't know
why I said.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
That, But in general, whenever you can follow the path
of Vince McMahon, you do. And I think we could
all agree in terms of a intellectual and moral compass.

Speaker 6 (45:15):
So was that a point counterpoint? Like was that also
your presentation? Oh yeah, but yours is. I get what
you're saying. That was a tough talk. But who was
it to is the marketing arm of the league or what?
Or to Roman numerals himself?

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Like who was your he's questioning your understanding.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
That No, not at all, it's just like who was
it directly to the Roman numerals?

Speaker 3 (45:38):
It's time.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
Well that's confusing, but like you served your purpose and
you're really nice.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
It would be funny to watch it kind of turning
around and sadly walking away like fifty eight el elf
Bury one one. I I like, just walking away, sulking
into the around the bend, never to be seen again,
and then all proud like fifty eighth number walks in
and takes a spot like, well, she brought it up.

(46:07):
She turned it into talking to the actual numerals, So
we're gonna humanize them now.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
I can't stop, all right? Uh? Can I talk since
we brought out? Okay, I talk to Bill? Oh yeah,
I think you need to.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Which is weird that I'm even doing this because obviously
I have a complicated relationship with the men personally in
terms of my fandom and the history and everything around
the Patriots, and but I feel like this guy needs
and needs a little pick me up because bub you're
a legend. I think somebody needs to tell them that

(46:49):
right now. I feel like, you know, Linda's not even
around to tell them. I don't know if I think.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
I think, if you listen to, maybe demanding to take
over the entire Falcons organization is a sign he's still
feeling that way.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Well, we don't know that. Again, we don't know the
details of the conversation. I kind of wish, well, I'll
get to that. There's a lot of conjecture around and
discourse around. You're right now, Bill, and everybody says you're
too old, and you're too power hungry, and you're you're
yesterday's news. And I just want you to know that you're.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
The best man. You're the best, there is, the best,
there was, the best there ever will be.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
You know, you're him that the kids say you're goaded like,
don't let like people like Greg tell you you're not
great anymore, and you're and you don't deserve to be
in power anymore or to build a team again, because
all I know update device one moment.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
The same, don't do the Julian Edelman to Tom Brady
motivation that you're you're too old and.

Speaker 9 (47:52):
Yeah no, like you got eleven super Bowls, bub you
got eight titles, six as a head coach. The idea
of you, Bill wasting your another year of your prime
and you are in your prime, baby fake laughing with
JB and Howie while Terry bumbles yet another read on
the teleprompter. It's beneath you. It's uncouth.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
It was like, Oh, Bill's fine, He'll go to the
Fox and sit on the dais Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Bill Belichick? Like, that's what we're cool with. He would
he would make his own role. He would make his.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Own What if they put him in a booth with
Brady though, that.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Would be fun. I would be okay with that. It's
beneath you.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
And it's strange to say this, but I really do
think Bill Belichick in a in a weird way as
being blackballed right now.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
And I want to know why. I want to know why, Greg.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
I want to know why because it feels like like
Barry Bonds is his last year in baseball he had
a four to eighty on base percentage, hit close to
thirty home runs, couldn't get a job. That guy was
a cheater. You're not a cheat, all right, No, forget
about that. Maybe it's because you're not a GQ model
like Dave Knalas like, maybe that's what it's about. Maybe

(49:06):
there are people out there that are saying that you're
both frumpy and grumpy, which is a terrible thing to say,
but it's out there in the discourse, and the fact
that you don't fit the mold of the modern head coach,
as if having high cheek bones and a chisel jawline
helps you, you know, do January kneel downs after W's

(49:30):
with confetti raining down?

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Doesn't it help it all? I can tell you them
personally that it helps, but don't let them. Don't let
them do it? Why because it Stefanski.

Speaker 6 (49:42):
Or I was suggesting that I had high cheekbones. That's
obviously enough.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
So, yeah, you don't fit the prototype of the quote
modern head coach.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Whatever, But is that Bill? Is there anything else you'd
like to share? Did you watch the game on Monday? Yes?

Speaker 2 (50:01):
I saw both games and they actually were on Sunday
and Bill, this is the type of stuff we got
to keep under our hat a little bit, just because
people are asking questions about your age. Just you know,
let's play this the right way. Bill, play this right
way and understand that you are loved and appreciated, and
don't let the discourse get you down.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
That's it. I think he needs that right now. I
don't know. I think he's getting beat up a little.

Speaker 6 (50:30):
Bit, but well timed talk, because he could be at
the point where, no matter what he's accomplished or any
what anyone's told him and what he's read about himself,
that there could be a little bit of a imposter
syndrome setting. You're a little bit old, you're staring out windows,
the phone's not ringing. Everyone thought you were a home
run for this job. You get passed over for someone
you know, thirty years younger.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Everybody wants to stick them in the nursing home.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Like he's junior soprano, Like you're not corrato, like you
still have something to give. And then people pile on
by saying he's money, he's power hungry, and of course
you pass on a minute's power hungry because he didn't
make mac Jones a champion. It's like, give him a chance,
give him one more chance. I want to see him
coach again.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Then maybe he can finally experience success.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Right. I told you it's conflicting for me. I don't
need you know.

Speaker 5 (51:17):
I want to see him coach again. I think he
could do a great job. When I watched him this year.
I love Belichick. I've read all the books about him,
Like I consider myself like a Belichick a file, like
he's my guy even more than Brady was during that
during that run, I really saw a coach this year.
I think that knew exactly where he is in history,
was fine with it. Wasn't enjoying what was going on there,

(51:40):
but absolutely was able to celebrate where his place in
the history of the game is and who he is
as a patriot, all this stuff. And I think he's
very comfortable with himself, and maybe he couldn't see in
this cycle a vision of like him not running everything.
And I totally understand why owner owners would he hesitant

(52:00):
to do that. It's like same thing like no one
hired Tom Landry after Dallas after the Cowboys. You think
you don't think he was like a better coach than
some of the people that but like, no, he was
Tom Landry and he was going to take everything that
Tom Landry was with him. And a year away from
the game, I think might be great for Bill Belichick
the coach, Like even if he wants to come back
and coach next year, being able to look at the

(52:20):
whole league and take.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
A step back.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
He's such a football genius that this I think could
give him like a different perspective. Whether he wants to
do a little bit of TV or not, We'll see.
He'll make that into his own sort of Belichi, what
changes one year from now?

Speaker 2 (52:34):
If you're saying part of the issue why people might
not want him is because he wants to do it
his own way. Is he not a year from now,
after a year the game going to say I don't
need to moderation.

Speaker 5 (52:44):
Maybe maybe just the right option comes up and people
are a year removed, or maybe he changes or he
has different ideas of what he would do, or maybe
he takes away some of the requirements, like in terms
of control and everything.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Because I'm with you, it would be fun to see him, to.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Hear from him cry again, I really would love to
hear from him if there was someone in the media
that he trusted and just a or if he did
a press conference. I know this isn't his style, but
I just feel like there's so many things being affixed
to him, what he wants and what he demands, and
we don't really know anything.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
CBS Sports Jonathan Jones said several sources expect Belichip to
take a job in television, which would indicate there's probably
been some back door talking. And one quote this really
made left. Every network would want him. He would revolutionize
media with the way he prepares. I mean, okay, that's
what But he was great with Tariko before the Super Bowl.
That's the role I could see him in these little

(53:37):
parts where he just sort of does a Belichick telestrator.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
He's Sunday, He's not.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
City on the tell, but even maybe he does one
Sunday but it's just a Belichick's segment.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
He was a.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
Totally different person than I have ever seen in NFL atmospheres.
When he was on College Game Day on ESPN this year,
on the set, I didn't I was like, is this
his twin brother? Who is this person that is sitting
up there in Bill Belichick's body. He was smiling, he
was laughing, he was making jokes. He was all in

(54:06):
like he was. They were giving him stuff to do
and he was buying in. He was yes, anding everything
like he was. He looked like he was happy and
he was in his element doing that. Now, maybe he's
happy when he's on the sidelines in New England when
it doesn't look like it, maybe he's happy on the inside.
But this really looked like he was glowing in that role.

(54:27):
And I liked that for him. I liked I liked
him there like it just seemed.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Right for him.

Speaker 5 (54:34):
Brady and Belichick and the Fox both together, right, that'd
be awesome.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Probably maybe it wouldn't be, but it'd be fun. You
would have to watch who's the play by play guy
you put with him. Let's just let's put it together
right now.

Speaker 6 (54:46):
Well, Al, we should not be demoted on any level.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
But give me this old, this old krusty booth of
Al Belichick and Brady.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Let's go give me a couple of years, because this
is only a year.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
By the way, this is he's I think he's going
back into coaching eventually, I think.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
But but in the booth too, like that, I think
that that role seeing him in that role would be
so interesting because a lot of people haven't even seen
him in like the happy I'm relaxed, I'm here to
just hang out and talk about football, and I love
it role, let alone calling a game role.

Speaker 6 (55:23):
I mean we get right back into the world of
like which one or the other is lifting each other
up and making them look better in front of the
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
If that's true. I can't really work together.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
I do like the the the old Travolta movie Wild
Hogs vibe of putting Al, Tom and Bill in the
booth and be like, Hey, everyone thinks you're done all three.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Al, you're washed.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Bill, You're you have no personality, and nobody likes you.
Tom like you. You're not cut out for this. You
you don't deserve a number.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
One year off You're you're no Greg Olson.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
And you're no Gregil And then letting them revolutionize the
sport or the broadcasting business.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
All right, Greg wild Hogum.

Speaker 5 (56:05):
All right, we probably only have so much time, right
We're doing this once? Yeah, one time around, Okay, because
I've been starting to prep for a.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Free agency list the off season stuff.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
You're right now during.

Speaker 5 (56:16):
The show, No getting up a drinking some egg yolks hardly,
but I started to, you know, tinker with the list,
and there's some around tires.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
There's some big tire.

Speaker 5 (56:26):
There's some big names out there that I think are
going to get to this free agency period and they're
going to be like a little disappointed. Guys like a
Chase Young or an Austin Ecklor Devin White, guys who
thought maybe going into this they were going to change
their life with these big time contracts and they get
there and it's a little disappointing. But I'm going to
have the hardest talk with a free agent who's facing

(56:48):
a different challenge. And it's really for the teams that
are out there circling this free agent, and it's it's
a little bit for you too, Dan, And it's for
everyone that's getting ready to give Kirk Cousins one hundred
million dollars guaranteed over for two years because I think
he'll get that money and it and it's a little
for Kirk too, because Kirk, the history of thirty six

(57:12):
year old quarterbacks coming off a torn achilles tear expected
to save a franchise, you know, is doesn't exist. It's
a little for Aaron Rodgers too, the history of forty
year old quarterbacks coming back from an achilles tear and
expected to raise a franchise. But he's different, doesn't exist.
It's different, Kirk like you. We've watched you on this show.

(57:38):
The ups, the downs, and what I always remember with
with Chris always a supporter of Kirk, and he was right.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
I think for about we were the kissing Cousin.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
For six games every season, pretty and I remember this
as a qb INEX writer. For six games every season,
he is like the fifth best quarterback.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
In the entire league. He's elite.

Speaker 5 (57:58):
And then other things happen. There's ups, there's downs, and
I know Kirk was improving. It was in this system
for Minnesota. Kirk Cousins, like you tore your achilles right
at the pick of peak of those six games, and
that's all anyone remembers. No one really remembers the ten
years before that. There were there was ups, there were
downs where you were very good. You were a better

(58:20):
than average starting quarterback without a doubt, but you weren't
like MVP conversation Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
The whole time.

Speaker 5 (58:28):
You were that for about a month every year, and
you never knew when that month was gonna come, but
it usually didn't last. Now you're thirty six years old
and you're coming off a torn achilles. That to me
is a massive red flag in the sense that if
a rookie was coming in with a torn achilles, imagine
how that would affect their draft stock. And yet teams

(58:49):
aren't going to care. They're gonna watch those last six
games of the season, see how excellent it was. Maybe
it's gonna be Minnesota. And because quarterbacks are so underpaid,
I believe like the value of Patrick Mahomes in a
in a free market would be five hundred million dollars
or something like that. Something bonkers that we can't even
imagine that Kirk is going to get all this money,

(59:10):
because it's very rare that these quarterbacks are actually available.
But I think you got to have a hard conversation
with yourself, Kirk, of who you're going to be coming
back and teams who you expect him to be when
he comes back before you pay him more money. And
he's probably gonna cost more money than justin Herbert and
all these guys on a year to year base.

Speaker 6 (59:29):
So you're not suggesting that Cousins pull back the reins
and say, I don't need as much.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Now takewa you hear talking, What are you going to
do talking to the team. Yes, But just like the talcons.

Speaker 5 (59:40):
Don't necessarily believe that you're gonna come in and you're
gonna be at that level that you were at before.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
There's nothing he can do.

Speaker 6 (59:47):
He doesn't strike me as someone like, you know, drenched
in hubris to begin now like.

Speaker 5 (59:51):
But expectation wise, I just feel like everyone saying, Okay,
let's slot in Kirk Cousins, and he's that guy when
he's either joining a new team or he's.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Coming off a torn achilles. It's just a lot to ask.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Yeah, new team or maybe not new team, new offense,
new expectations, all that stuff. But he, you know, he's
no stranger to being doubted himself, whether it was in
Washington or Minnesota going into this year, you know, Minnesota
actively letting it be known that we're not looking to
do more business with you, and then he went out
and was playing maybe the best ball of his career

(01:00:22):
before the injury. I think he's a little different than
Aaron Rodgers because he is, you know, four or five
years younger, even Testa Verdi or had an achilles came back,
wasn't the same he was I think thirty seven or
thirty eight by that point. He's not a guy that's
known for being an explosive athlete to start with. He's,
you know, part of a dying breed, almost of a

(01:00:44):
pocket passer. So I think you have things working to
his advantage. Now, would it be an overpay if he's
a slightly lesser version of what he was previously, Yes,
but what he instantly, in my mind, still brings stability.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
To your quarterback position.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Also, yes, it's yeah, there's some buyer beware, but I
would live with it if I were a team that
if I had Kenny Pickett and Mitch Trubisky, uh and
Mason Rudolph in house to use that Steelers example again,
or Desmond Ritter or Sam Howe, like like a.

Speaker 6 (01:01:13):
Two year deal we're talking about here, you're not signing
away like the rest of time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
I guess it would depend on what his market is.
But yeah, two three year deal, I'd still do it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
I guess that is what I'm saying. But there's absolutely
a chance that.

Speaker 6 (01:01:24):
I could be One thing I like about what you
said though it's like the teams are just glued watching
his tape, his high at the high end of his
tape from last season.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
It's like his health is a complete unknown.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Like your pept know that your pep talk could also
equally and maybe more appropriately be directed at these teams.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Anything really is where I would be.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
But that's but Kirk's He'll be a little bit confused
when you're saying to him at the same time to
be like Greg, they're all good points.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
What do you want like me to do? I'm not
sure I have played the colleagden artists. I've played the
colleat and role of not really understanding the assignment.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
But it's it's good, it's interesting. So he's an unre
strictly free agent. He is Is he number one? He's
not going to be number one.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
It's a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
I would think I would have built in and if
the value like in terms of I.

Speaker 5 (01:02:09):
Have a hard time with Chris, Joe, Josh, there's there's
a I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
I guess I haven't.

Speaker 5 (01:02:13):
Fully discied dout not till February. When's the last time
Chris Jones is in the mix. Josh Allen from the
Jaguars is in the mix. Kirk's obviously in the mix.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
But if Cousins is Cousins, he's, well, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Know, injury her Cousins was playing at a top what
eight level as a quarterback and now he's a free
agent injury.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Wait, who's the last time there was a big name
veteran quarterback. That's what I was. I was looking for Cousins.
That was the last time it's happened or something good.

Speaker 5 (01:02:46):
I think he was number one, like on the list
that actually gets put out when free agency starts. Usually
there's this first list where it's like Lamar Jackson was
number one last year because he technically was.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
What about the pretenders that put out a similar list?
Where are they put in Kirk?

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Right now?

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
We don't talk about them.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
My process is I do not look at those, and
I do look at them the minute I have my list,
and then I think, oh, okay, that's interesting that I
miss anyone, But I do not want to look until.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
I have it all right, Mark close it out for us.

Speaker 6 (01:03:16):
I did not misunderstand the assignment, but I took it
less as a pep talk.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
And more as a warning to yourself.

Speaker 6 (01:03:24):
And it's not based on the fan base of this team,
who I think have been through hell. They've seen their
team relocated, they have been let down a year after year,
They've been overly pumped up as a team that's going
to go to the super Bowl almost every summer, and
they find a way to undress it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Well, we've all done it. Everyone's guilty of it.

Speaker 6 (01:03:44):
This is directed at the team that I find already
to be on my radar.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
It is the Chargers.

Speaker 6 (01:03:50):
You hire Jim Harbaugh, great job, great move, way to
regalvanize your marketing, everything else. But the attitude around some
of what I'm seeing has me a little annoyed, and
I think it has to the fans. I wish the
fans all the good, so don't confuse that. That's all
i'd say to the team and to the people messaging
what this off season means, because we go through this

(01:04:11):
with one or two teams every off season and it
usually ends in total wreckage. I would say this, Chargers,
don't over celebrate. Okay, took a couple bullet points here.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
I love it.

Speaker 6 (01:04:21):
Don't caress yourselves and put special oils on your forehead
just yet. Settle down your social media team. Stop naming
pets after Jim Harbaugh. Go stark and spartan and dark
and work in the shadows. Become pure evil. Take out
the enemy with a complete lack of mercy and restraint.
Destroy houses and townships. Don't even view children as vulnerable.

(01:04:44):
Animals are your enemy too. Rip roads and highways to shreds.
Pull fruit off fruit trees and burn it in stinking piles.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Destroy books and films.

Speaker 6 (01:04:53):
Celebrating anything in your way, less self celebratory tweeting, and
twenty twenty three, before you've accomplished a single particle of good,
before you tell us how great it all is in essence,
be everything the Chargers have never been, or leave.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Us be go do it? Do you have a kid?
Kill kids in there?

Speaker 6 (01:05:12):
I said, don't assume the kids are vulnerable or innocence, something.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Like why the fruit trees?

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
What wreckage anything in your way?

Speaker 6 (01:05:21):
Enough with telling us now on Twitter that everything's perfect
Like you these teams. I get what they're doing, and
it's mostly for children or gullibles, but like, settle down
with yourselves, go start five and oh and we down
Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
And we also push that out to.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
People who celebrate the Chargers a lot and just be like,
do we have to hear it again now this summer?

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Yes, to celebrate though, but.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
This is like Jets Aaron Rodgers heart k but this
year is different, right?

Speaker 6 (01:05:54):
But this to me was a targeted attack, an isolated
attack on the team itself. And then I hope the
media would understand to take on tell.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
You why it will not.

Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
My takeaway here is Mark needs to mute the Chargers
account for our mental health.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Yes, so I'll tell you why it's different than instance,
the Jets had hard knocks Greg because nobody was pumping
up that team before Rogers got there. We've been hearing
the Chargers get pumped up for years and years for
different reasons.

Speaker 5 (01:06:21):
App the Chargers like making their little av I Harbaugh
and doing funny little Harbor videos.

Speaker 6 (01:06:28):
I don't even think Jim Harbaugh would like that or
really want that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Harbor doesn't even know the Internet, and I think I know.
But his thing isn't let's come and anoint me and
put it on your overall game.

Speaker 5 (01:06:39):
He kind of is like he went on CBS and
he was like, I was starstruck meeting Justin Herbert. He
is kind of like a hype creator. Not on purpose,
but he just naturally.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
That guy let.

Speaker 6 (01:06:49):
Him do it without telling us that he's already done it.
But I don't need to hear that. You're starstruck by
Justin Herbert. Just make him a star.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Are they going to be on hard knocks?

Speaker 6 (01:06:57):
Oh my gosh, well wait, new coach though new coach.
I thought that they Yeah, but they can't they kill that. No,
they didn't kill it, but a team can volunteer. It
suggests they will at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
They probably, But you're saying you don't want them to
that this is that would be a perfect example of
don't go on.

Speaker 6 (01:07:15):
Hard I actually would want that time about the act.
That's a whole separate thing. But that would be a spicy,
juicy access. We're going to manifest it, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
I like it burning the fruit. I liked killing the kids,
not as I didn't say kill kids. I said the text.

Speaker 6 (01:07:32):
Don't even view children, destroy houses and townships. Don't even
view children as vulnerable. Don't be fooled by a child?

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Are they saying I destroy everything, including children who don't
view them as don't they assume vulnerable?

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Right? They may be in your way. They may fool you.
I'm glad that they may lure this.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
If I was a little confused, there's probably other people
that'd be like, what about kids?

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Well, but now now you've clarified that.

Speaker 6 (01:07:53):
Even so, I'm not saying you shouldn't view children as vulnerable.
The Chargers should not. That's also it was. It's not
a societal message.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
What about Phil Rivers's children. There's that's an army. It's
not attached to the it's not attached to the organization.
At this point, well, he's like.

Speaker 6 (01:08:08):
A member of their Ring of Honor, and then it
applies to his children if you're the Chargers, not Philip Rivers.
All right, they're not above suspicion, trust no one. They're
not above suspicion. Right, Not totally clear, but I'm with you,
says dog. Thank you mostly got another updated. All right,

(01:08:34):
here's here's the situation.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
By the way, voting closed on that award over overseas
and they're announcing a winner on Thursday.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
Oh wow, did you guys vote for yourselves or no?

Speaker 5 (01:08:47):
No, of course not no. Get to give them an email, uncouth.
It is one of those things.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
And I'll tell you this, Mark, I know you're resolute
as a person, stand by it. If we do not
win that award, you will not have Dan and Mark
on the show. And those that want a solo Greg
around the NFL, they're.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Gonna get it. You're gonna get it. So well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
The only problem, well know, by right, I'm being in
real time. What we we made it clear last week.
We said, if if you don't vote us the victors
of this particular contest, we're going to Mexico or somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
And then we said, do you want to join us too? Greg?
And Greg goes now, so now you're staying here show
ten nominees.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
I think I remember this. I was here for.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
Yeah, okay, yeah, I we asked you if you wanted
to join us in the walkout you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
Did calling to Mexico.

Speaker 5 (01:09:43):
Well, I just assumed it's not too late. Do you
want to join us when when there's ten nominees?

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
Don't love that attitude.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
The only problem with this call to action happening right now.

Speaker 6 (01:09:51):
People now are spurred like I don't want too late,
too late voting.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
So we did give them a week, we did.

Speaker 6 (01:09:57):
I we could have put it out on different platforms
if we really if we're just leaving, but we are
leaving the show.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
I will leave the show.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
Lessons we're learned.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
I mean we could if you want to. No, no, no, no,
your word. We said it. We're leaving. We will leave.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
Yeah, no empty threats.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Here, Where are we gonna go? Wait? I can still
take Colleen right north or Satric.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
I might be going with them.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Though, Greg take the ambition and take it under the tape.

Speaker 6 (01:10:19):
Is already formulating a new lineup.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
See who's available at least? Oh my god, it's so real.
All right, I've seen Bill Barnwell at the moment, Bill,
I think they lost.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
I voted against them. All Right, here we go. We'll
be back on Thursday. It is the annual don't say
super Bowl show. So if you're already sick, if you're
annoyed about the teams in the game, you just want
to talk about something else to connect to the NFL,
that's your show either Connie, thank you, Yeah, you've said
it all.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
We'll do it again. Let's do it again. Heed the call.

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