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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To the move Darling Deep Speedways Past Hell.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
From the Baptist Health Studio. This inside the Baptist Help
Training Complex. This is Drive Time with Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
He's got my hands in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
What is up Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
I am your host, Travis Wingfield. On today's show, we
have a busy loaded episode for you. Ted Winn from
the Athletic and the Just Win podcast is going to
get you caught up on all the latest about the
Las Vegas Raiders. And then, as I do every single Friday,
Kyle Crabs joins me. I love the conversation I had
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with Kyle on this podcast talking about the Dolphins now,
in the future and the direction of the team. Really
good chat with him talking about college ball as well.
I'll also make the week eleven picks from the Baptist
Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
This is the Draft Time Podcast. Real quick.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
If you have not seen this, if you are only
a podcast fan and not on social media apps at all,
or maybe the former Twitter app, get at me on
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Speaker 2 (01:17):
Really enjoying my time over there. So far.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
People are nice. It's not a bunch of crap talk
to you at all times. So I'm enjoying that kind
of re energizing my feelings about social media that have
gone completely off the rails the last few years. Let's
go ahead and pick this thing up with my chat
with the great Ted Win. So the Raiders are in town,
and you know what that means. I have to bring
in my friend today on the podcast, Ted Winn from
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the Athletic. He joins us here from the Baptist Health
Studios on Dolphins HQ as well as the Draft Time podcast.
You can find him on the Just Win podcast as
well of all of his written content on the Athletic
dot com. Ted Winn, Welcome back in, Ted man, how.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
You doing done great? Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
We're happy to have you.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
It's Dolphins and Raiders week, which means you're here with
us on the show as we do I think for
the last like five or six years now. But Ted,
before we get into Sunday's matchup here at hard Rock Stadium,
you know, you break down film all over the league,
and I want to ask you a general question before
we get into the matchup here and scrolling your timeline,
I've noticed that you've been like fighting the good fight
against this concept of the NFL product suffering this year.
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And I just want to kind of give you a
platform here on our show to refute that idea that
the NFL is somehow, I guess regressing.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Yeah, I think maybe people are just confusing the idea
that maybe because scoring is not as high as it
used to be back in the Peyton Manning, Tom Brady,
Drew Brees era, that you know, you would have three
or four guys challenging for five thousand passing yard every year,
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and maybe that's what people kind of miss and maybe
they think that that's good football. But I think we're
just moving on to a different area where, you know, defenses.
I feel like we're almost in kind of a golden
age of defenses as far as defense is getting really
creative with their pressure schemes. Almost on every single play,
you're going to see some sort of disguise now like
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that that's not how it used to be back then. Like,
I've talked to a lot of offensive coordinators and quarterbacks
this offseason, and a lot of them, you know, say
they don't know what they're looking at defensively, you know,
even when they're looking at film, they're not exactly sure
what the defense is in. Back then, it was Cover three,
it was Cover one, a lot of man coverage. I
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wouldn't say it was easy to beat them, but it
was kind of easier to decipher.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Now. I just feel like.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Defensive coordinators do such a good job of confusing quarterbacks,
and I feel like we're out a good spot where
we have a lot of young quarterbacks. A lot of
the top quarterbacks are doing making plays that we've never
seen before, just because they're such a good mix of
their athletic ability, arm talent, and now they're really mastering
the game, like Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen. You see guys,
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you know, like a guy like Lamar Jackson just take
that next step mentally combining with his physical abilities. So
I feel like the league's in a great place. So
I'm entertained every week. And there's a lot of close
games too, Like it feels like almost every game is
a one possession game. So I really don't know what
people are talking about when they're saying that the product
has diminished.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, the close games is exactly what I want to
talk about, because to me, like you turn a game
on with you know, ten minutes left from the game,
and typically you're going to get some type of you
know high you know, high urgency, you know, critical moment
type of play. And that's what makes this league so
fun on top of the parody that it has. And
to your point about those you know, Manning and Brady
Eras and Drew Brees and the guys that were going
off for five k and you know, forty touchdowns every
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single year, I felt like that created this, like, you know,
a bigger divide between the haves and have nots in
terms of the elite quarterbacks because those guys could kill
those defenses even more so, and you had less parody
where it was like the same you know, three or
four quarterbacks won the Super Bowl every year, right, Is
that kind of what you're getting at?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
And you know, just because there was three or four
guys challenging for five thousand yards doesn't mean the overall
quality of quarterback play was better. There was a lot
of bad quarterback play in that era as well. So
I think there are some like we're moving towards an
era where there's a lot younger quarterbacks playing, and yeah, yeah,
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the quarterback play is not gonna be that great from
the younger guys. But I just think at the top end,
we're just seeing things that we've never seen before.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Too.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yeah, I was one of the odd ones out in
terms of I didn't really care for the you know,
high forties to low forties scores. I like a good
twenty seven to twenty four game personally. I think it
makes for more entertainment with both sides have a chance
to win their particular you know drive like a defensive
stop or a touchdown on the offense.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
So good stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I do want to pivot to a team that I
hope is on the verge of finding their high scoring
offense once again, as the Dolphins have scored twenty seven,
twenty seven, and twenty three points in their three games
since the return of Twu a Tongua bai Loa. And
you know, we're a little bit lucky here with the
timing of this taping for Dolphins and Raiders, because I
had originally asked you to do the show, and we
weren't sure who the quarterback was gonna be. But we
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did get word earlier this afternoon that it will be
Gardner Minshew. My obligatory go Koogs mentioned here on the
podcast in the show that he will start on Sunday,
Can you take us through what his Raiders.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Experience has been like?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Because watching his tape, like, it doesn't seem that similar
to what I remember back from the Mike Leach days
WSU or much less even the Colt slash Yer and
Shane Steiken. Like, how has the benching that the three
times being benched this year, how has that kind of
impacted this offense? And what do you think the offense
looks like under Gardner Minshew?
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Well, it's interesting because Gardner might break the record for
most benchings in one the beginning of the year, it
was kind of a battle between him and Aidan O'Connell
and it O'Connell is more of a timing based quarterback.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
You guys remember seeing him last year.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
He performed pretty well against the Dolphins defense, which was
playing at a pretty high level with the Vic Fangio
at the time, but they decided to go with the
Garden minshewe Minshew has a little bit more capability. He's
a little bit more aggressive when it comes to downfield passing.
But just in this offense with the offensive line struggling
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as much as it has His tendency to hold the
ball really hurt this offense. He you know, he just
is not a good rhythm passer. He likes to kind
of hold onto the ball. He likes really clean pictures.
He's not great in muddy pockets. So if you can
protect him, then yeah, you know he's gonna be that
air raid quarterback that you know, passes the ball all
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over place. He kind of saw that in with the
Baltimore Ravens. But as soon as he starts getting pressure,
that's when he starts seeing him getting in trouble, kind
of moving into pressure, just not seeing the field very clearly,
which is why he has benched so many times. And
you know, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a
bit of a Desmond Ridder.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Package put in his game.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
They as soon as they signed him, they put him
in in one play for his own rea, and then
they obviously played them a lot against the Bengals. So
just because Minshew's starting, I would I wouldn't you know,
I think the Dolphins should be prepared for Desmond Ritterer
option package.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah, because it's tough to come in and get an
offense down what three or four weeks that he's been there,
So that makes perfect sense. And it's funny you mentioned
that because, like I was, again writing it in my
game preview script, I was, I was taking a look
at you know Minshew now versus what I saw at WSU,
and like he had that you know Leech's twelve plays
on a napkin, that he had that offense, he had
that down Patt and he played with really good timing
and rhythm of those offenses. But you watch him for
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the Raiders, like you mentioned, there was a play against
the Chiefs down around the goal line where like he
ran into pressure when there was a pretty good pocket
on a critical fourth down play. So I'm like, I
don't recognize that quarterback at all. So I hopefully this
week he doesn't figure it out, but long term I
hope he does because I love Garterer Minshew. Either way,
the Raiders bring one of the more interesting offensive lineups
into the game or across the league, I should say,
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into this game in the sense that they have really
two number one tight ends, and I think we'll get
Michael Mayer back this week. You can correct what I'm
wrong there, But between he and back Bowers, who's become
already a top you know, two or three tight end
in the NFL at this point, what kind of challenges
as an offense that does have two pillars and that
twelve personnel grouping, How can they challenge this Dolphins defense,
provided they do have Bowers and Mayor available.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Yeah, I think the plan coming into this year was
for them to be a very heavy twelve personnel team.
But the problem is when you can't run, block, and
the Raiders are actually the most inefficient running team in
a league. If you look at rushing success rate, their
bottom of league and it's not even close. So if
you can't run the ball, then teams aren't really going
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to respect your tight ends.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
So just because you put out twelve.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Personnel doesn't mean they're going to put their base personnel
with their linebackers on a field. They're going to match
the twelve personnel with nickel personnel. And when they match
with you with nickel personnel, you don't get those advantages.
You don't get those mismatches with those tight ends and linebackers,
which is the big problem the Raiders had. So Bowers
actually was a lot more sucessful when they were an
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eleven personnel and he was just on his own and
he like he's blown away expectations. Like I thought he's
gonna be good, but I didn't think he was going
to be already one, like a top five tight end
just off the bat. And he's a lot better of
a blocker than even I gave him credit for coming
out of Georgia. You know, he's not going to devastate
guys on every play, but I would say he's an
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above average blocker, which I think a lot of people
did not think he would be. Michael Mayer is a
guy who was a second round pick last year and
he really struggled in run blocking and he kind of
developed as a receiver as a year went along. But
the hope for him this year is that he could
really be that inline blocker that could really help out
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Bowers on the outside so he doesn't have to stay
in a block all the time. And we didn't have
enough of a sample size this year because he just
didn't play that much this year to see if that
was true. So he is active and been backup practice.
I don't know if it's been confirmed that he's going
to be playing this game just yet, but the biggest
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thing for Michael Mayer is if he can develop at
the blocker, because, like I said, they really need the
defense to respect the run game for twelve person out
the Raiders twelve personnel to really be as efficient and
explosive as can be.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, Okay, that tracks, and the fact that he hasn't
been you know, in the game recently probably makes it
tougher to implant him, especially with you know, a change
of oc as well. There so lots of new for
the Raiders coming into this game. The Dolphins trying to
find their groove as they look to get to four
and six and kind of back into the mix of
things here to kind of finish up on that side
of the football.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I was telling you before he got in the air.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Here, Ted writ's really good, complex in depth detailed stories
on schemes and coaches and different things that teams do
across the league. And you had a great piece about
Patrick Graham's defense, and I'll talk about here in just
one second, but I want to talk about the Dolphins
defense because we got one of the many offshoots of
the Mike McDonald defensive tree from Baltimore last year, and
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reviews are in so far. We love Anthony weaver Man,
what have you noticed about his defense and how they've
been able to do a lot about what you talked
about with Patrick Graham, where he can consistently change the
picture post nap with different checks in and disguises.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Yeah, I've watched the TV copy of the game. I
didn't really get a chance to break down anty we
Rece defense, especially to Rams, yet I did see a
few plays. But you know, I think the main thing
with the McDonald defense is it does take a little
bit of time to really learn. But once once you
learn it, then you could take off because initially you
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have to learn. The big thing with this defense is
you have to learn everybody else's job jobs, so you're
not just learning your job, you're learning what this guy
does because they want to be able to just move
guys around. They want to be able to run a
ton of different things from the same front. So once
you get that down and you understand each concept as
a whole, then you can really start mixing and matching
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and playing fast. And I think that's where the point
that the Dolphins are arriving at. McDonald's defense really struggled
when he first got to Baltimore. But then after I
think after the bye week, that's where they started taking off.
And I think we're seeing a silver thing in Miami
where the defense is really starting to learn the system
and learning how to mix and match, and then now
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you can really confuse quarterbacks and really play those games.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yeah, it was really fun to watch because they were
able to wheel like Cater Coohoo for instance, to play
the slot. He wheel back into one of the half
field responsibilities in the deep you know, the covered show,
And they were using Javon Holland all over the field
down on the fit as a rusher, and just lots
of fun stuff. I think you'll have a good time
watching that tape when you get to it. And not
to mention Jordan Brooks, my goodness, he is bawn out
right now.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
How about the.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Other side of the ball here, Ted, because the Raiders,
you know, I'm curious how they want to attack to it,
because they had one of the better showings in terms
of holding Miami last year when they were going, you know,
for thirty points every week about they held them to
just twenty points in that game. And you know, we
see teams commit to keeping the roof on the defense
against Miami, like even more so than ever before. What
do you think that Patrick Graham has cooked up in
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this for an ascending Dolphins offense.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Yeah, I think we'll see some similar themes from the
Rams game. When I talked to Patrick Graham about last
year's game, he talked a lot about emphasizing stopping the
outside runs, forcing them to be inside run team, and
changing the pictures in different ways against it. You know, like,
for example, this is very nuanced, but when you rotate
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the safety downs at the box, usually as a weak
side rotation, but they would switch it up onto it
and go strong side rotation, and you know, just having
him pause for that extra little half a second so
he doesn't get that timing passed down work for them.
So I think we'll see some of that. The Rams
did a pretty good job. I think they played a
lot of just regular cover two, but those linebackers were
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just inside the hash marks and just making sure not
to give up those inside breaking routes and forcing him
to throw outside. And two actually did a really good
job of extending plays and getting the secondary to break
down a little bit, which we we haven't seen a
lot of him do a lot of. But he did
a great job of it against the Rams, So I
think we'll see a lot of that.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I think we'll see a lot of games up front,
you know.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
I think the weakness of this Dolphins off the line
is just the interior and some of the communication with
the interior and Max Crosby's so good on those stunts.
So I think we'll see a lot of games late
in the later passing downs. And yeah, I think we'll
see a lot of wide nines. You know, maybe we'll
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see linebackers walked up to the edge. They do that
a lot with Divine Diabolo, the inside linebacker, where they'll
have the line shift one way and they'll have Diabolo
play up on the line in the two point stance.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
And against this run game, you know, I think we'll
see a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, it's uh.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
It was a challenging second core for the Dolphins against
that Rams attack. And to your point, I mean they
they had to work in a new right tackle in
that game, and Kendall Lamb as Austin Jackson missed his
first game of the year, and then Rob Jones had
to exit right halftime tooously, so they were down two
linemen that can obviously always cause confusion with your communication and.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
How you pick those things up.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Just real quick before my last question here, Ted, I'm
curious because I was looking at True Media and the
usage of different defensive personnel packages, and it had Nickel
for the Raiders at like sixty percent, dime was it
like eight percent? And then they didn't have any percentages
for any base packages or for dime or even or
quarter defense. And I'm curious, like, what does it look
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like from a pre snap of lineman? Is it the
old Patrick Graham that I knew from twenty nineteen where
it's a lot of seven and eight defensive back packages.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
I think the problem is the Raiders don't have a
lot of good linebackers, so they don't want to put
their base personnel on the field a lot. They had
Diablo who was out for a long time, and after Diablo,
there's really no depth of Robert Splain's a pretty good linebacker,
but every other linebacker that had to fill in it.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Just hasn't been good.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
So when you have to put a third linebacker out there,
it's just not very advantageous for the Raiders. And Nate
Hobbs is one of the Raiders' best players, and he's
the nickel and he's a very physical slot defender, so
I think they feel like he you know, he's he
could hold up against a run. So yeah, I think
we're gonna see a lot of nickel. They did play
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with some three safety packages when Marcus Epps was healthy,
but Marcus Epps out for the season, so pal Maw
their third safety is now starting safety. So I don't
think we'll see a lot of three safety or big
nickel looks. I think, you know, nicol is probably the
personnel package you'll you'll see most against the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
All Right, interesting to take a look at that and
see if alec ingolds available to because he changes the
way this Dolphins offense runs big time.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Ted, appreciate your time, man.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I think I just realized that just Win podcast is
actually a play on your last name.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
That was intentional, Right.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
No, it isn't.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
I actually voted on a different name and my podcast
hosts one of that name, and I was like, all right,
that works with me.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
It kind of sounds like my last name.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
So yeah, you could have spelled with the last win.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
With the way you spell your last name, there could
have been a good opportunity there.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
It's available where you get your podcast from.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
You can read his commentary at the Athletic and follow
him on social at FB Underscore Film Analysis.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Ted, you're the best man. You said it all.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Thank you for your time today and we'll see you
out here on Sunday, so prom Thanks for having me on
and there he goes, first break of a long Friday episode.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Right here.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Come back on the other side with the week eleven picks.
That's next Draft Time podcast, your host, Travis Wingfield, brought
to you by Autoundation. One thing I'm going to start
doing on the pick segments is talking about the ramifications
of other games around the National Football League and who you,
the Dolphins fan should be rooting for. It kind of
reminds me and like I'm reminiscing about all the good
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times in the past and the build up to getting
to this profession that I now call my career and
my job, when I would just basically be online twenty
four hours a day trying to get people to find
my stuff, to interact with my content, to get myself
in a position like this, and I would post those
rooting guys or scouting guides every single Friday that gave
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you like Tua's game, Burrows game, Herbert's game, Jordan loves game,
Jalen hurts his game. I think I was even doing
Jake from which is one of my biggest draft misses
of all time. I digress, and then I give you
this the Dolphins games and the people that were competing
for the Dolphins for the first pick of the draft.
Like I was trying your best to make fun of
a really rough season that year. And I think we
did that back on the old Lockdown Dolphins podcast days.
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But I'm gonna do the same thing here on these
shows because I think we're gonna get hot as all.
You'll hear me talk with this with Kyle Krabs about this,
and we because of our position. You know, last year
was like trying to find out if the Ravens and
Bills and Chiefs lost, trying to compete for position atop
the conference. And now you're trying to basically outperform like
seven teams competing for wild card positions.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
If you can get on a run, get hot, and
go on a run. Here. So week eleven, we are one,
twelve and forty right now.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Oh, he's doing it again. He's doing live math on
the show. That is one hundred and fifty duke games.
One hundred and twelve wins divided by one hundred and
fifty two games is a seventy three point six to
eight percentage. So that's what I guess, seventy three point
seven if you round up, or seventy four percent if
you round up. All the way there on my picks
so far, so we were having by far the best
year I've ever had picking games. And it kicks off
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on Thursday. I already picked Washington. That one feels tough.
I'm not really sure there's no Dolphins interest for you
in that game. The Dolphins over the Raiders, doy the
Browns over the Saints. If it doesn't have Dolphins interest,
I'll just breeze right through it. I'm taking the Colts
over the Jets, although that's probably the toughest pick for
me of the week. Like I think the Jets are
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poised to get right in this one because the Colts
are pretty bad. But I also feel like Richardson coming
back kind of gets you that little bit of that,
you know, interim coach or backup quarterback bump, even though
he's the starting quarterback, but I feel like it could
be re energized through him. I also just think with
him and Jonathan Taylor against that Jets defense, they have
a chance to go off against a very bad run defense.
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And this is where you should root against the colt
But I really don't think they're gonna be a factor,
so I'm not that concerned about it. The Vikings over
the Titans, the Bear Packers over the Bears. I'll take
the Lions over the Jags, the Rams over the Patriots,
and then we get to the games that start to
really matter for the Dolphins. The last one o'clock kickoff
is Ravens. I think there's two more here, Ravens and Steelers,
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and that's the obvious root against the Steelers. I think
some folks might have the Steelers win that division. I
think no chance. I think they're gonna they're I've been
hating on the Steelers all year, but I think they're
finally gonna get some of the the come up ins
that that team deserves with the roster and the way
they play, because I think they're just beating bad teams
by being good enough to win those games, which is
it's a skill and it's set in its own self,
but I just don't think they're one of those uper
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echelon teams at all. So root against the Steelers and
all these AFC North games they have coming up.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
The Broncos and Falcons.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Might be the biggest non Dolphins game on the schedule
this week, just because the Broncos schedule like there's a
lot of walking the park games on there, but they
also have some tough games, and you know they're gonna
get wiped with all the good teams they play because
they're just some mediocre team. But this feels like one
that could swing their sweeson the season the wrong direction.
I'm worried about Cousins on the road in Denver. I
haven't looked at the weather there, but if it's cold
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and the Old Bones start to tense up a little bit,
don't love that. But I just don't think the Broncos
are very good. So give me the give me the
Broncos over the Falcons. I'm gonna pick them in this
one because of the home field advantage, because of Old
Bones Kirk in Denver, but I do really want the
Falcons to win that game. It'd be a great set
up for the Dolphins if they can get that result,
and then the Niners over the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I'll take the Bills over the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
The Chiefs are like due to get picked off, and
I feel like the Bills are pretty damn good and
a good team to make that happen.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
So Buffalo over KC.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I don't know who you want to win in the
Rape and the Bengals and Chargers game. I really don't
because the Bengals have a have an easier slate and
the Chargers have this Murderers Rose schedule coming up. But
the Chargers also get like the Raiders and the Broncos
and like shoot the Patriots. I think like there's a
lot of like softies on that schedule, so you might
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need the Chargers to start stacking up some l's. But
basically it comes down to this, like between the Chargers,
the Bengals, the Broncos, and the Dolphins, Like one of
those teams besides US, is going to be in, so
like you pretty much have to root against one or
the other.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I think I.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Want the Bengals to win, although you can make a
case that burying Cincinnati at seven losses this early would
be beneficial, But if the Chargers get the win, they
might be able to get enough wins to get in.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I'm not really sure right now.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
I think the Bengals conference records bad, but I don't
so I don't really know. But I'm gonna pick the
Bengals because I think Joe Burrows is just hot right now,
and I think the Chargers are a total farce. I'll
take the Texans over the Cowboys on Monday Night Football.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
All right, let's go.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Ahead and take our last break right there, cut the
music and get to Kyle Crabs in the next segment
of the Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought
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Speaker 2 (23:47):
Last week, he made his HQ debut.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Now he's back on US or on Draft Time with us,
I should say, the great Kyle Krabs. And you can't
see the video this week because we're not on HQ
right now, but pretty much we're on the same hoodie,
my friend.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
That's a it's a good looking hoodie you got there.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
You know it's the calendar flips to November. It gets
a little more chilly out. I know it's very chilly
there Baptist South, So you got to have all your
layers on there, but it's just naturally in the air
up here where I'm at. So yeah, we're both on
the athletic ware hoodies today and trying to stay more.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I actually next on my shopping list here is a
space heater for this room, which I know is going
to make a lot of the folks in the Northeast,
you know, probably label me a little bit soft. I
don't mind that, but it is like sixty degrees back
in these studios, so a space heater would go a
long way for your boy. And the look I get
on people's faces when I tell them like other beat reports,
like when you come down here, make sure you bringing
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a jacket for the press box because it is also
very chilly in the press box. And they don't they
can't believe me. I mean, have you ever worn more
than a T shirt to a Dolphins game, Kyle? No,
maybe a home game, I should say.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Maybe the season finale in twenty one with New England
Patriots game where they they won and had the defensive
touchdown there at the end, And that probably is the
only time of not warn.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
A T shirt, you know, Kyle.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
We always cover a couple of points in the team
that I find interesting talking to you about And I
had a really good conversation with coach Weaver at his
press conference earlier today recording this on a Thursday comes
out on the Friday Draftime podcast talking about some structure stuff,
and I want to get to that here in one second.
But first, offensively, you know, you and I obviously text
a lot about during the games after the games during
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the course of our film study, and you had said
something to me as I was dialing up the offensive
tape about how you felt there was extra meat on
the bone offensively, and I thought the Dolphins were like
so close, whether it was just a couple of drives
that had takeaways or maybe one slip tackle here or there,
to pretty much replicating their offensive production from the previous
two games. And that paired with the defense's performance that
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was the best we've seen since maybe the Patriots game.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
It's you know, it was one of their best showings
of the year.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
I'm curious when you look at where the meat left
on the bone for the offense came from. What are
you kind of talking about with that, and how do
you think they can get to that immediately this week
for the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, I think especially when you consider the Raiders and
what you're going up against, a front that's a little
banged up, no Christian Wilkins playing for them, Malcolm Koons's
on irs. It was turned into a really nice second
pass rusher for them. Max Crosby obviously is capable of
wrecking a game plan all on his own, but I
think without the other elements there, that was what really
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surprised me about and not surprised me, but I came
away from really having a great deal of respect for
the rams in the front that they had with Fisk
and Turner and Verse, and these guys are they're all
condensed players. They all play low, but they're all heavy handed,
but they're also very dynamic players. And that being a
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step here, or a peel block there, or a little
bit extra heavy hand from a tight end to assist
an offensive tackle with getting his block secured at the
point of attack.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
All those little things.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
It just felt like you were a step off from
having more chunk plays and getting some explosives, particularly in
the ground game where you had opportunities, and just when
you have that many dynamic talents up front that are
all young talents and the rest of the guys are
flying to the ball the way that the Rams do.
It's great team defense and it forces you to be methodical,
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and I think the yardage output probably would have looked
a lot better if the Dolphins didn't have one possession
in the third quarter. I didn't really realize that until
I sat down and did like the full grading of
the game. I'm like, oh, yeah, they had one possession
here and they scored a touchdown on it, and that
was really it for the third quarter for them. So
I do think there will be opportunities against the Raiders,
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especially coming away with the respect that I have for
the Rams front, I think there's some matchups Mimy can
maybe be a little bit more keen to take advantage
of this week.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, it's crazy because you know, and I mentioned this
my film review podcast, like the way teams are straining
to get over the top of this Dolphins game, Like
it's almost comical to me at times, how like the
safety's like.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Gotta gotta gotta gotta go, Like they get back there
so fast.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
And that's obviously opened up some other areas of the
field the Dolphins have exploited with this, you know, ball
control offense. They now possess and like their possessions. It's
like it's like seven, eight, ten in these last three games,
and it's it's not what you're used to seeing with
the Dolphins getting the ball eleven twelve times in a game.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
So that's a little bit different.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And you know what is cool about the Travis I
remember going all the way back to training camp and
talking to like alick Ingold and some of the offensive
linemen and Tyreek Hill about the nature of being less explosive,
play reliant, and it was something like they talked about
in July and August, being able to not shoot yourself
in the foot and piece together like operationally clean drives.
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How many how many penalties has the offense had the
last two weeks?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
It was none last week?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I know that, right, So like the manifestation of that
and seeing that, well, it's the timeline. Maybe is is
not as crisp as everybody had with their aspirations for
the season, But the fact that you're getting that proof
of concept and the process of getting better as a team,
I think that is one thing you look at as
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of late for Miami. You feel good about the trend
and the trend line there.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
That's exactly why.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
And I try not to do this, but I've been
doing it more lately where I interject a little more
like long term content into my current content because I'm
you know, we have games to play, and I think
it's not too late. I obviously, like you're right up
against being too late for playoff perspective, but like, I
feel like they've gotten to that point that I was
hoping it would happen back in Week one, and obviously
losing your quarterback in the second game of the year
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probably stunts that growth a little bit. But that's why
I'm excited about the final eight games and how I
think they can get hot and go on a run.
But like also like down the road, like the program's
in place to have both those aspects of the system,
to have the defense. You know, in the second year
of Anthony we were that looks so damn good right now,
Like I'm really bullish and the Dolphins going forward, which
is a surprise to absolutely nobody who's ever heard my content,
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But like I I kind of see the vision coming together. Man, Like,
are you with me on that?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:04):
I think anytime you and Mike McDaniels alluded to this
on a couple of occasions about like the job that
Chris crew has as the general manager, as far as
like balancing the long term and short term health and
wellness of the football team. There have been some short
term circumstances that you don't feel good about from a
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win loss perspective through nine games this season. But provided
this thing continues to get better, I think that is
part of where you focus your energy about. We feel
better about being this being a sustainable piece of our program.
What now needs to be added to this sustainable foundation
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that's been established to help take things to another level
and move from there.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Yeah, it's it's just to a staying healthy and I
feel really good about it if that is the case.
I mentioned Anton, we were there and the growth here
for the first what is it nine games his time
as a Dolphins coach here, I keep losing track of
how many games we played. Nine games, and you know
there was a two game dip there against the Cardinals
and Bills, and I think there's no coincidence there that
it was Zach Seeler being down in Javon Holland and
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cater cohu being down some critical parts of the defense
there and man watching that tape like Cater's got a
bunch of roles man. And I asked coach Weaver about
this today in his press conference regarding like, how do
you what's the process of determining, you know, when you
can use a player in more more versatile respects because
he plays inside outside and he's even dropping into the
deep half sometimes in those two high coverages. And it
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goes back to what I learned about this defense from,
you know, the the Mike McDonald influence from Baltimore, where
it's like everybody has to play like multiple positions so
that no one knows who's coming where, and we were
touched on that.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
It was really informative.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I'm curious from your perspective after you know grinand the
tape as you do, what's the what was the difference
you saw in the structure of weavers defense with and
without ninety two four and eight sealers Cohu and Holland.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
A lot more diverse as far as showing zero looks
or pressure looks with Javon Holland on the second level
and then he turns and bails out and he plays
the high post and plays as the free safety and
he's dropping out and he was on one side of
the line of scrimmage and he's I in two who's
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running vertical on the other side of the formation, and
he's like stacking him. Like when you have guys that
can do that, or you can invert cater from the
nickel and push him and now he's gonna play the
deep half. And what flexibility that gets you to have
a corner push inside or a safety that rolls down
to kind of trap that area the field where Miamis
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has developed this reputation of where they want to throw
between the numbers and the hash at eight to fifteen yards, right.
It just the ways in which they changed the picture
against the Rams pre snap to post snap really stood
out to me. And then the guys inside, I mean
the entire defensive front, everybody coming into the game against
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the Rams. You found out that Steve Abila was gonna
be back as a second round pick for the Rams,
and Jodah Jackson got a sixteen plus million dollar a
year contract for them. They had Kevin Dotson who got
a sixteen plus million dollar year contract for them, And
it was really an area where just organic rush felt
like it was what you were missing in the two
week regression. Defensively, Zack Steeler comes back, You're much less
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pressure reliant. You can get Kalayis more fresh, and have
Zach out there and platoon those guys with Deshaun Han
who's turning into a really nice player for the Dolphins,
Chop Robinson and his emergence. Like the number the blitz
frequency against the Rams was way down, but like even
the subtleties of like when they're gonna bring Jordan Brooks
on a second level pressure, but it's actually a simulated
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pressure because Tyas Bowser is going to drop out off
the end of the line of scrimmage and take a
hook responsibility and cover two. Zack Sealer has that savvy
of when he runs his pick stunt, he kind of
gets his arm wrapped around Steve Avila's shoulder and kind
of holds him in place so that Brooks gets a
free run to the quarterback to force a check. All
those little details and things were littered all over that tape.
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And when you have a blend of guys that are
dynamic and a blend of guys that are savvy in
the way that Zach and Klayus are, I think that
that's what made it such a good game tape performance
for me.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
We he's going to be a head coach someday and
I'm looking forward to that opportunity for him. I just
hope it's not next year because I want another year.
If this guy call on this defense, I mean a
thirty six year old quarterback who's going to the Hall
of fam my opinion, who's played for sixteen years and
has had four years in this system with Sean McVay,
and he looked like a young quarterback like and that's
that's something we haven't seen a lot of with his
Dolphins defenses over the years, even when they were producing
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at a high level, like the top line, quarterbacks have
usually been able to produce against the Dolphins defense. And
that was a situation where you shut down a star
quarterback in a big, big way. Speaking of young quarterbacks, man,
we talked about the Alba L LSU game last week,
and I freaking love Jaln Milroe. Dude. He is I know,
always got some some wards here and there, but I
or the passing. Yeah, dude, he reminds me so much
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of Lamar as a collegiate. But whether it's Alabama, LSU
or otherwise. What you got, man, this is usually your
time to shine here on the show. I've enjoyed talking
more Dolphins with you this year. But let's get into
the college weekend on tap here.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
I am selfishly gonna go with a game that has
the home team favored by almost three touchdowns, as like
my favorite game of the weekend to Mexico Boston College
at SMU. SMU suddenly the lone undefeated team in the ACC.
But Boston College has an edge rusher Donovan Izuraku, who
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is one of the most proficient pass rushers in the
country on the edge, and they're going against an SMU
team that defensively has some names that I would imagine
University of Miami fans are going to recognize, like Jafari Harvey,
Jared Harrison, Hunt, Elijah Roberts. These are all transfers from
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Miami that are starting at SMU and they're balling. They
got a great defensive front. So just for if you
like defensive line play and dynamic athletes and guys that
could go in any range of like I'saraku I think
could go in the first round. I think most of
the other names like Roberts and Harvey and Harrison Hunt
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are probably mid round guys, but like I fell in
love with Elijah Roberts tape has just kind of stumbled
onto it. Watching SMU, I'm like, what's this team that's
scoring all these points and beating all these good teams
about And it's like, Oh, they went out hit the
transfer portal hard and they get a bunch of guys
that have a ton of talent. So that's the game
that I'm watching this week from a college football standpoint.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Great shout out for the edge group there. Obviously the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I talked about all the time how fast the NFL
comes at you, Like, I feel like just a year
and a half ago we had the deepest edge group
and right now we are so banged up with that
spot that it's a position you look at and why
Kyle does such great job evaluating the draft for not
just the Dolphins but all thirty two teams and trying
to have that team building aspect of always being aware
of what your roster is today and what it could
be tomorrow. So check out his work there. You can
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find him on social at Grinding the Tape. The thirty
third team Draft Lee, locked on NFL Scouting, Locked on
Dolphins Podcast, and of course touchdown Miami substack. He also
deadlifts four oh five and squat six sixty, and he
grills a really mean rack of ribs.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Kyle, you said it all man, You're the best. You
do it all dicks. Thanks Travis, and away he goes.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
If you couldn't tell by his voice at the end,
I was trying very hard to get a smirk out
of our very straight lace Kyle krabs, and he kind
of did laugh there a little bit. So good on me,
good on us, good on you, Good on Dolphins fans Nation,
Good on Dolphins. Wiping the floor with the Raiders on Sunday,
let's go ahead and call it a podcast. We'll be
with you guys on Sunday right around eight o'clock or so.
I cannot wait to wipe the floor with the Las
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Vegas Raiders and then get on my couch after all
the work has been done, the hay is all in
the barn, and watch Bengals and Chargers. Like I talked
about it earlier, I would love to see you the
Chargers get destroyed in that game. Quite frankly, even if
it's not what might be best for ours our wildcard hopes.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
I don't know. It's a tricky one either way.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
But we'll have the podcast for you guys right around
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