October 18, 2024 • 44 mins
A loaded show ahead of a busy football weekend welcomes in two guests. Daryl Moose Johnston is on the call Sunday from Indy as he helps us get ready for kickoff. Then, Kyle and Travis discuss a bevy of topics from college scouting to the future of QB prospects and the bye week boost for the Dolphins.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To the move.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Dylan Deep Speedlins Beasts.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. Please God my hands
in the playoffs?
Speaker 4 (00:26):
What is up Dolphins? And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
I am your host, Travis Wingfold on today's show. Two
guests and a ton of football knowledge. This is not
for the faint of heart, not for the casuals. Darryl
moose Johnston joins the podcast to break down this Dolphins
run game and the game on Sunday, and so much more.
(00:47):
Also nicknames and the disappearance of nicknames in the NFL world.
Plus the great Kyle Krabs joins us to talk about
this quarterback class, the weekend in college football, some bi
week self scouting, and the ten thousand foot view for
Dolphins colts. I think it's our best conversation to date,
quite personally, and you can tell me how you feel
about that. Here in just a few minutes from the
Baptist Hell Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex, holl.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
This Eales.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Who the Draft Podcast. Daffy, my guest today is three
times Super Bowl champion, two time Pro Bowl fullback and
the man you'll hear providing analysis for Sundays Dolphins and
Colts Tilt. Darryl Moose, Johnston Moose, welcome in, my friend,
who to be with you. Very happy to have you.
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And I got to say, you know, Sundays in my
childhood included a lot of watching Cowboys games, and I
think that was one of the best nickname or eras
I should say, for nicknames, and you're one of the
ones that comes to the forefront of my mind. And
like I said, none better than a full back name Moose.
But I kind of feel like we've lost the nickname,
like there's no great nicknames anymore. Am I wrong on that?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
That's a good point. I hadn't really thought about it,
and we haven't had one in a while.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
There's no more Billy white Shoes Johnson's out there.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah right, I mean that was that was tremendous. I
mean that's my era, Kenny the Snake Stablers. I mean
there was some Yeah, there was, there was great ones
back there and really even and I know it has
to go along with the performance of the group, but
the Purple People leaders, Steve Curtin no name, you know,
there was some there was just some really cool stuff
(02:23):
with football last year, and I hadn't even really thought
about that, but yeah, we've kind of gotten away from
that a little bit.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Yeah, I guess the Cheetah is a pretty good one
to go back to the previous area. You're talking about
the killer beat. I love that one personally. Just I mean, yeah,
I feel like every baseball, football, whatever the sport was,
there was always the mound round of rebound. Like that
doesn't exist anymore, you know what I.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Mean, exactly exactly, And I grew up. I grew up
a Dolphin fan as a kid, So yeah, I mean,
you know, for me, you know in those days, you
know you mentioned the Killer Bees, but you know, even
before that, you know, I was a big fan of
Larry's aka Jim Kick Mercury Morris.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Sad to hear the news of losing him.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
But just what the characters back then, you know, I
think if maybe the nicknames have faded away because we
don't have the characters like we had back then as well.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Maybe they're a little more behind the scenes compared to
nowadays when they're all on social media, all very front
facing for us.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
All.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
So there's there's a little bit of old head talk
for you guys heading into this game on Sunday, Let's
go ahead and preview this kind of sneaky, big matchup
in the AFC. The Colts off a couple of wins here,
the Dolphins trying to get back to five hundred ahead
of the potential return of quarterback one to a tongue
of Bailoa. The winner of this game, Moose, I think,
comes out of it feeling pretty good about themselves. As
you're sort of early in your week of prep work here,
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you know, talking to you on a Wednesday, what do
you think is a storyline that kind of heads the
marquee for you if you will in this game.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I think the biggest question is going to be, you know,
how much further down the road is Tyler Huntley in
this offense? You know, I think one of the things
that I haven't had a chance to get the response yet,
but I wanted to see because motion is such a
huge part of what Mike McDaniel does. What was the
you know, average snaps that that had some type of
motion you know early on in the season when Tua
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was still playing. You know what happened, you know, when
you got to the point where Skyler Thompson came in
probably stays relatively the same. But then when Tyler Huntley
came in, what happened there And just watching some of
the game tape, you know, the speed across with the
receivers appeared to me to be down, but alec Ingold
was won. I think the tight ends and the full
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back we're being utilized more in motion there. And it's
such a huge part of what this offense does, whether
it's you know, trying to get some information about how
the defense is going to play, you undressing things, allowing
the quarterback to have a little bit of information at
the snap of the ball. So here you've got a
quarterback coming in, learning a system in a short amount
of time, trying to create the best opportunity for him
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to have success, and one of those ways is is
to have some of that motion so he can see
exactly what's going on pre snap.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
And And is that a little bit too much?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I remember in San fran Cisco when Jimmy Garoppolo came
out and I'm hoping to be able to pull this
off in our broadcast, but Kyle Shanahan told us he's.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Like, listen, he goes, this is a hard offense.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
It's it's very verbose, and it's very different than what
Jimmy had in New England. And I've got all these
fans out here clamoring for me to put Jimmy on
the field. He's just not ready because our our system
is very complicated. And I said, well, give me an
example of a play call, and he rattles this thing
off and I'm.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
So he literally gave us a play call that we
put on a graphic and put it on TV. It
went all the way across one line and then it
was halfway across another.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So I'm gonna I'm going to ask coach McDaniel.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
If he'll let us do that this week, just so
people can appreciate, you know what Tyler Huntley has been
trying to consume over the last three plus weeks and
trying to get ready for this offense. And that's just
the ability to walk into the huddle, to hear it
and repeat it. And now you've got to sit there
and think about everything that's going on as you go
to the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah, I was going to say, that's that's the mental
side of just getting to the snap right and after
that you have to worry about whorred pieces move on
the defense. But the part that I wanted to follow
up on was how the footwork is so imperative to
the timing of the timing of the routes the receivers,
and how you have to be at a certain level
of your drop when they at the top of their route,
and it all times up with you know too, a
Reagan waddle having thousands and thousands of banked reps. Where
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Huntley's coming in here trying to do it, like you mentioned,
off of just a couple of weeks of work. I'm
curious do you think the bye week can be as
I suppose impactful as I've seen some fans talk about,
and we've heard coach McDaniel mentioned that he did put
in time during the bye week to work on that stuff.
But in your in your opinion as an ex player
and a guy that does this every week and breaks
these tapes down, how much do you think the bye
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week can help a new player kind of acclimate like that?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
What's going to be helpful, It's going to be a positive.
I don't know how much it moves the needle. You know,
you want to get tow out to the point where
he's very, very comfortable in a core group of plays
and then being able to add a couple of things in,
you know, from week to week based on your opponents.
So I would I would think that the offensive coaching
staff right now is working on expanding that foundational offense
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that that they're trying to get Tyler very very comfortable with.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
So it's more about the execution component.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
So it you don't want volume right now, I mean
that that's the biggest thing. You don't want to overwhelm
somebody with volume. So you know, for me, and we
hear this all the time, you know, there's eleven guys
out there on the field, and you've got one new
guy and he's trying to learn everything.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Those other ten they got to do their role.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And it's one of the great things that you know,
you hear coach McDaniel continue to talk about, is you know,
I don't know if the guys around are doing enough
right now.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
And I think that that's very fair.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And so I'm interested to see what happens this week
against Indianapolis because if you go back and you watch
and we had we had green Bay right after they
played Indianapolis and they were going to play Tennessee and
it was during Malik Willis's time as Jordan Love was
was still getting back healthy. And you know what Matt
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Lafleur created in the run game against Indianapolis. Now, you're
not gonna you're not gonna fool Gus Bred twice. But
what can you do there? I know you want to
have that downfield throw as part of what you do
on an offense, but the best thing for you to do,
and watching how green Bay approached it and really just
leaned on that run and said you're going to have
to prove to us that you can stop this before
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we move off it. And it took Indianapolis into the
third quarter before they kind of did that. And then
you kind of went to some play accident and some
things that Willis could do. Being familiar with that style
and knowing mad does coach McDaniel come into that same
situation and say, Okay, we can do some things here
with motion and personnel and different formation things. And the
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speed that this offense has is always going to be
a threat to a defense and it doesn't have to
be getting behind them down the field, it can be
coming across horizontally in the run game, and that was
one of the big elements there. You know, they were
pounding Josh Jacobs between the tackles and on the edge,
but then all of a sudden you had Jayden Reed
and Bo Melton, you know coming across on these jet sweeps.
Had to have you know, Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle
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with the speed that they have. You know, I think
that there's some creative things that the coach McDaniel can do,
just kind of watching some of that Green Bay film
against against the Indianapolis Colts with.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
A similar style offense that Matt Lafleur runs there from
what coach McDaniel runs as well, So it makes a
lot of sense and there's a good pivot off of that.
Because one of my questions was about Dolphins fullback Alec
Ingle that I had for you. I'm sure you plug
on the Dolphins and Patriots tape by now, and I'm
sure that was pretty cool for you to watch a
guy do all the things that he did in terms
of those motions, because to me, I thought it was
different with sometimes he would like start to motion across
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the formation and then would peel back into that offset
I look and then go from there. And the way
they were able to kind of widen those C and
D gaps, it created these these spaces for the Dolphins
running backs to hit and they had all kinds of room.
I'm just curious how does Ingold and his flexibility in
the nature of playing I guess kind of the f
position more so than an actual true fullback. How do
you think that his presence changes the dynamic of the
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Dolphins offense from a position that you know, I guess
like what one third one quarter of the team the
NFL actually rosters.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, and I'm hoping that that continues to grow and
when you have offenses they can do the things that
that Miami has done over the you know, going into
last season and what San Francisco does with with Kyle Huscheck.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I mean, I think it's a very very valuable position.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I think that the guys up front on the defensive
side have become very very dominant. You know, there's such big, quick,
fast twitch guys that there's a lot of quick losses,
you know, inside and to have that fullback there to
cover him up so your running back doesn't have to
make a decision, you know, with a with a big
defender right in his face, and then to watch how
what Alec does what I was impressed with against New England.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It's one of the.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Harder blocks there is where it's the short motion in
coming in just inside the tight end and then going
up going upfield, and sometimes that that timing is kind
of hit right where you're perpendicular to the line of
scrimmage and then you got to turn and enter the
running lane. And you know, it is not an easy block.
It is actually a very challenging block. And he does
it very well. He's got great he's got great feel
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for who to blog and and there's you know, there's
a huge rule.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
You know, you never run past color.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
And it takes a while to get used to that
because sometimes you'll bypass because you trust your running back
to be able to be beyond that, but to be
able to go through the line of scrimmage with all
those bodies around. And Alec does a great job of
sorting out and who's the most dangerous man on this
play right now? And it was really really fun to
watch him kind of work out. But I thought what
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they were asking him to do is one of the
more challenging blocks. It looks like it's going to be
like a kind of a wham type play, but then
he's going vertical up to the second level, and you've
got safeties dropping down, you've got linebacker scraping. There was
a number of times when there was multiple people in
that hole. We're in opposite color, and he was really
really good at getting the one who is the most
the most threatening to his running back.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
That's that's why I love watching this offense so much,
and I'm sure someone like you does as well, with
all the different kind of things they can offer in
terms of, you know, a false keys and eye candy
for the defense to get off balance and get out
leverage and ultimately get taken care of in the running game.
And with that thought, you know that that Patriots game,
they ran for nearly two hundred yards and they had
success with Raheem Mostert and Jalen Wright, who I just
continue to be so impressed by. I'm curious how you
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feel like they can stack up against this Colts front
that will be without Taekwon Lewis, that will be without
Samson Ebucom and possibly without DeForest Buckner.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Who.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
We just talked to coach McDaniels wednesday press conference and
he was like, oh, I saw that guy for two
a day's you know, for so many years and I
want to see him again. If what does it look
like with and without him in the lineup because he
could play, he could not play. How much does that
change how the Dolphins can run the ball against the
Colts defense.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
You never want to go completely away from something.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
But when you mentioned you know a name Lake the
forest buckner in the presence that he has inside, you know,
every once in a while, you're gonna have to run
at him, but you can control that. You can get
to the other side. You're going to know where he's
going to be pre snap, you know, getting on the edges.
And again we talked about that speed that Miami has
in their offense, and I agree with you as well.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I think Jalen Wright.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I've gotten to see two games so far, and there
you saw a little bit of it, you know, earlier
in the season, and then really against New England, you know,
it really kind of popped on you. And uh, you
hear all these coaches talk about, you know, we go
with the hot hand and we've got running back by committee,
but all of a sudden, somebody's kind of hitting that
stride and they've got a good feel, you know, I
think I think Jalen is there right now and has
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earned the opportunity for a couple of more snaps.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
So I think it's going to be interesting.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
But you know, the more you can you can stay away.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
From the forest, Buckner and kind of get out on
those edges, the better. But it is also one of
those things where you're gonna have to come inside from
time to time. And and really I would like this
is one of the great things that North Turner would
do with us in Dallas, whether it was an injury
or playing against a guy like Deon Sanders. Let's see
how mentally he is into the game right now, Let's
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see how good he is physically coming off that injury,
and test him early in the game.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
And and if if all of a sudden he shows
up and he's.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Stout, Okay, the forest is the worse today, So let's
let's go back to what our initial plan was. But
you can't just shy away from attacking that area. So
you know, I would come in and every once in
a while just kind of check early on in that game,
how well is he feeling, how well is he playing?
And then if he's if he's the guy that coach
McDaniel remembers from back in two days. Okay, let's get
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out to the outside a little bit on the next
couple series.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
All Right, there's a reason he was once traded for
I think the fourteenth pick in the draft. He is very,
very good at what he does. If I might follow
up there on Jalen Wright, because I've been talking about
it on the show all week. Here it goes back
to OTA's He's been impressive really since he got here
with the Miami Dolphins. I'm curious, just from your perspective,
how impressive is it for a player like that to
come into a system that you mentioned is complex and
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has so much exogt stuff it does in the running
game for a new player, a rookie in his fifth
NFL game, to come out and kind of have some
of the success where I'm sure you saw it too,
Moose that there's the tracks he took with the running
game on Sunday against the Patriots, I thought he really
showed just a good feel for how he needs to
set up his blocks and ankles to in the running game.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, I think that that's that's one of the bigger
things and you'll see it. You know, Patience is one
of the big traits for good running backs tonight, in
today's game especially, you know, as this you know, the
wide zone starts to become more and more prominent, you know,
getting on that track, staying on that track, trusting your guys,
waiting for the defensive line to actually make their commitment.
You know, it's kind of a you know, you're playing
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chicken a little bit, you know, is the blocking is
kind of coming together in front of you, and then
all of a sudden, there's going to have that split
where are you going backdoor?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Are you? Are you pressing and coming right around him?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
So you know, to have that that patience, but then
the explosion once he sees it, and you know, that
was always the thing that we were taught, you know,
coming through this. You know, it's it's patience to the
whole and then explosion through the hole. And and those
are the really good running backs. And he's just one
of those guys that has that really really good feel
for you know, that zone scheme. So you know, I
agree with you he he really pops out on film
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the last couple of games you watch, and you know
for me that that's that's a huge plus because you know,
I come from the era where if you had that
premiere back, that number one guy, and we had Emmett
and Barry Sanders was there. There was a number of
teams that you leaned on a guy in a twenty
five thirty Kerry game was was not a big deal.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
You know that that's not the way things are done today.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
And now you go in and you look at what
Mike McDaniel was actually able to do out in San Francisco.
Is one of the key people in creating that run
game that San Francisco uses. But look at the running
backs that they brought in a lot of times, you know,
not the high draft pick. They have a really good
feel and an evaluation process for who's going to be
the best fit in this offense. So obviously you know
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he's done it again because you know, Jalen Wright is
one of those guys that you wonder how everybody missed
on him when you watch him play in the game.
But there's something that Mike McDaniel recognizes in a running
back that helps him understand how he's going to fit
in his offense. And you saw how many guys are
able to find in San Francisco that proved to be really,
really good running back that nobody really heard of. And
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then you're seeing it here again with Jalen Wright in Miami.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yep, right, h hm, both mid round picks Bolster and
Jeff Wilson both undrafted free agents back in San Francisco
as well. So he's been doing it for a long time.
If I could ask you one more question here a
moose to flip it over to the Colt side of
the football. Sounds like we will get Anthony Richardson, a
quarterback at least has the plan as of today, and
we'll see what happens with Ryan Kelly, the Colts center,
whether or not he can go in the game on Sunday,
and his place would be rookie Tanner Bordolini, which, to me,
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the question I want to ask you is about a
rookie center who's only done this for you know, a
few games so far, obviously, and a quarterback who had
minimal college reps, minimal reps as a rookie and now
has only played a couple of games in his sophomore season.
How do you think the Dolphins and coach Anthony Weaver
can attack a young Colts. I suppose battery and the
protection scheme to kind of make things tough on richardson Sunday.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, that's that's very very savvy, right there. Young center,
young quarterback, not a lot of experience. A lot of
times you'll see the it's a young center, but it's
a veteran quarterback. So I'm going to take some of
those calls off you. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna
handle protection. I can slide different things or vice versa
young quarterback veterans center. Hey, we're gonna throw it over here.
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You know, we had Tampa Bay earlier this season and
as they're bringing up their their their first round draft pick,
who's playing center right now? You know Baker Mayfield has
stepped up and taken a little bit more off of
the plate at the center and put it on his
plate at the line of scrimmage. So that's a great
example of that. When you've got the two young guys.
It'll be interesting to see if if if coach Weaver
comes in and really stresses that early on you know,
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how is the communication here, how is the recognition, because
that's definitely one of the biggest things in the NFL
when you talk about quarterback play, and it's probably one
of the things that a lot of people talked about
when Anthony Richardson was drafted as high as he was.
That's not a lot of games there, It's not a
lot of experience there. It's going to be a difficult
transition or a challenging transition for him just going to
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the NFL and that style of play, on top of
the fact that he still hasn't had a lot of
football to kind of put in that memory bank.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
You know, when you look at a J.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Daniels at fifty five games of Bo Nicks at sixty
one games and see how they're playing right now, it's
because they've seen a lot of football during the course
of their college career. So I think that that's going
to be one of the things that you need to
keep an eye on. All of a sudden, do you
see whether it used to be overloads where you have
four and you're out on the edges and you're trying
to get there. Now, all of a sudden, we see
something concentrated into the a gaps and really let's test
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their communication. Exactly what we talked about with the forest.
If there's a weakness or something that you think could
be an advantage for you, you've got to test at it
as soon as you can during the course of the game,
and if it proves to be that case, then you
keep doing that until they get it corrected. So that'll
be fun to watch in the beginning of the game
and see if there's an opportunity to attack inside and
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how the Colts adjust to that.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
We had Jayden Daniels down here for joint practices and
it was one day of practice Moose, and I'm telling you,
that guy looked like he's been doing this for fifteen years.
It was incredible how poison and in command he was
with that commander's offense. No pun intended there.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, And we had just a couple of weeks ago
and just you know, really kind of the production meeting
that you have with with the quarterbacks and the coaches
and the guys you want to visit with, and then
really going down to the field and talking to them.
There the maturity that he had, you know, kind of
that old soul type guy. And we had Jayden week one,
and yeah it was there was nothing too big for him.
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And that's just that's having that confidence banked and you
playing that many games and you see some really unique
things at the collegiate level, so it's easy. It's just
learning that vocabulary at the professional level. But you've seen
it before. There's no way you haven't seen a lot
of what you're going to see up here. And when
you have all those reps banked in you and your
memory bank, it's much easier for those guys to kind
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of work through.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
That really good stuff that we got smart about the
an NFL in general and the Dolphins and Colts matchup
Sunday one o'clock kickoff. Daryl Moose Johnson alongside Kevin Kougler
from Indianapolis. Moose appreciate your time, enjoy the game, and
enjoy the many steakhouses Indy has to offer on Saturday
night as well.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Absolutely absolutely, And the.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Way he goes, I couldn't have I've loved that chat
more and I couldn't have loved my chat with my
next guest, Kyle Krabs. That's after the break Draft Time
podcast your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation.
I feel like every time we have a primetime game
or a week off, that's when college football tends to
pop off. As we missed the great Kyle Crabs here
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on the show, the host of Lockdown Dolphins and Locked
On NFL Scouting, author of Touchdown Miami, NFL Draft lead
for the thirty third team. Kyle, my friend, how was
your bye weekend?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Relaxing and stress free? Which is all you can ever
hope for in a bye week? So excited to get
back in and we got twelve football games to play
for the regular season and see where things go from here.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Yeah. Man, coming off a win and the bye week,
it's like I haven't really stressed about football in like
two and a half weeks. It's been really, really nice.
Yesterday in the podcast, I told a story about how
I used to go to the mailbox and wait for
VHS copies to arrive in the mail just to rewatch
football games. And I would eventually wear those VHS tapes
out to where the film no longer work because I
watched them so often. I'm curious, do you have a
(22:03):
as a fellow thirty something, do you have an old
man story about your football obsession? From a young age.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah, what I got in trouble. Actually, you know they
how they sold the blank cassette tapes, Yes, and then
you could like record on the TV or something. My
parents kept recording like movies and things on the blank ones,
and I kept like going into their stash and stealing
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a few blank ones and like recording games, and then
I put them back in the box and you knew
which ones like they were, and then they would go
to watch the movie that they had recorded, and it
would be like a football game that I recorded over
the top of their movie, like thirty minutes in. It
didn't rewind it all the way, so they watched the
first thirty minutes and then like this random game would start.
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And boy did I hear about that when that came
to light. So that's that's my story about something like that.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
You're about to find out that Bruce Willis is in
fact a ghost, and then it cuts to like a
Lamar Smith twenty three yard touchdown.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
RD.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Oh man, that's pretty good. I did the exact same thing,
and I would I would literally buy Best Buy out
of their vh their blank VHS copies. And one of
my claims to fame is that I have somewhere in
a box the entire seven season on VHS tape. Bluss
my heart for doing that. I remember there was a game,
and this is before I had Sunday Ticket where uh,
like you know how they would do. They would cut
away and go to the competitive game in progress.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Late.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
There was a game in like two thousand and six
at the Jets where the Dolphins were close and driving
for a possible like game tying field goal or something,
and I ended up record like the last three minutes
of the game and I just random my closet, grab
one of those or the the you know, the DVD
VHS closet, and grab one of those things and popped
it in and have like four minutes of a failed
game winning drive from the Dolphins in two thousand and six.
So man, tougher times back then trying to get your
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football fix.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Yeah, a lot different than NFL Pro now, where you
can put the filters on and just automatically watch multiple
angle of any given play at six am the following day.
It's crazy time to be alive as a football fan.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
I'll say that it sure is. And we were hardened
by our trials and tribulations coming up. Let's go ahead
and get into this week and talk about this football
game and of course the weekend in college football. But
I want to start coming off the bye week here, Kyle,
just with I guess maybe your own self scouting. I
know you kind of like to put yourself in position
as if you're like running the Dolphins is kind of
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your whole approach to content and I love it. What
did the buye we provide you in terms of things
you learned about this Dolphins team?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah, I think there's a lot of avoidable things, so
a lot of easily avoidable things, and you've seen some
good moments. But you know, when you're playing offense with
the backup quarterback, you understand that you know the efficiency
of the operation from a pre snap perspective, and a
consistency of accuracy of throws and the timing of the
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offense is a timing ran of offense. You understand that
that's not always going to be there. And what I
really liked that they showed against New England was tough yards.
They bought into getting tough yards and not trying to
do too much with the football, and I think that's
easy for skill guys to press. I don't know when
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I'm gonna get into the ball, so let me try
to make something happen here, and you end up losing
some of the yards that was already on the field
and available for you to have. So I hope they
carry that with them, and I hope they If they
do that, I think they can make staying on schedule
on offense a little bit more consistent, even though the
explosive play rates has so much room to grow versus
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what it was last year.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
And I think coach at one point, and I forget
what day or even what weak this was, he talked
about it. I think it was back after the Patriots
came about how you know, you kind of see the
running back go into the pile and you have an
assumption of what the down distance is going to be
for a second down, and he's looking at the call
sheet for a second and nine. You look up and
all of a sudden at second and six because Jalen
Wright or Raheem Moster has pushed the pile in extra
three yards. It goes a long way, especially in a
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game that has been kind of ball controlled defense style
for the Dolphins these last few weeks. So yeah, I'm
looking forward to that too. I think it's something to
be excited about for this game against the Colts on Sunday.
We'll get to that in one second. Let's go ahead
and go backwards first to Saturday. I want to talk
about the quarterback class eventually, Kyle, because I continue to
think that it's better than be getting given credit for
across you know, major publications and amateurs alike. But let's
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talk about this weekend's worth of games before the quarterbacks.
What stands out from a good matchup perspective about guys
that you think potentially could be long term fits for
the Dolphins in the future draft classes.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Man, So you have a couple of heavyweight games with
Alabama and Tennessee. You have Georgia Texas. I think that's
the one at seven thirty that you should absolutely have marked.
Whether it's offensive lineman. Texas has a pair of offensive tackles
that some people think is top fifty caliber players. George's
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got into your offensive lineman. They can play at a
super high level. I know, at least for Calvin Banks,
the other the tackle from Texas, some people wonder if
he's beat suited to play inside. At the next level,
you've got quarterbacks on both sides and Quinn Oohor's and
Carson Beck defensively, you have a lot of talent for
Georgia on all three levels of the defense. Texas kind
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of got picked over a little bit with some of
their better players in the draft this past year. But
whether you're looking for just drafting good players authentically or
you're looking at specific areas that are perceived to be
needs for the Dolphins, whether that's depth on the interior
defensive line or potentially a guard with a couple of
expiring contracts as your starting guards right now, even tight end.
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Both of these these teams have tight end prospects that
are eligible for twenty twenty five. Like, it's got everything
in that game. So if you want the game, Georgia
Texas seven thirty. If you told me you came out
of a draft class and only took players off those
two teams, I probably would not be mad about it,
if we're being honest.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Akin to twenty nineteen LSU Alabama.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Right, yeah, and that being a game that I was at,
it's so funny to sit back on all the players
on that field, how impactful they've become this has probably
like top to bottom roster wise. I'm not saying like
the quarterbacks are in that stratosphere of Joe Burrow into
a tongue of malola, but top to bottom roster wise
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and just numbers of NFL players, it is right up there.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
I do want to go back to a player you
talked about a little bit in the Alabama Tanna Sea
game because I want to pivot to quarterback talk here
and you've been driving the nusbus. Man, I want to
get to his game against Ole Miss here in just
one second that I thought was maybe by the box
score and by a couple of maybe just live shots,
you're thinking wasn't his best game. But man, I thought
there was some stuff on that tape that was really
really impressive about how you project to the next level.
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But before that, you know, we talked about Shader Sanders,
We talked about cam Ward a heck of a lot
on the show. I want to talk about Milroe and
nuss Meyer because to me that might be like kind
of the next guys in that grouping there, maybe even
above the first two guys I mentioned. We didn't talk
after Millroe played Van Dy when they lost that game.
But I thought Kyle that he he was so impressive
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in that game because we know the physical traits, we
know what you know four four four or five speed
can get you, you know, from any position on the
football field. But how impressive you've been by his growth
and the way he sees the field in post nap
rotation and layering the football into you know, the in
between the hook linebacker and the deep safety. Like I
think he has the goods man.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I think he does too. I do think there's still
a lot of room for growth as far as consistency
of timing and footwork and placement. But like you could tell,
the big growth it feels like for him is the
game has slowed down and you know there's more trust
in the athletic profile that exists there. And I think
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that's really helpful when a guy has those tools and
he's not so eager to in case of emergency break
glass and use it. And once that starts to slow
down and you get a better feel of, hey, I
do need to get out of this pocket, or I
do need to get out of this rush lane and
get outside the pocket. And I know how much time
I have and I know what kinds of angles that
(30:03):
I can defeat. All of that tying into I think
what has been more consistent POSTNAT processing in a different
offensive system, I think shows you some growth potential that
you can continue to project for him.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Do you feel like, and this probably is a conflict
of interest in terms of your desire to see good
players come out for the draft because it helps your
profession and gives you more bites at the apple for
the Dolphins as well, but also like unselfishly kind of
feel like maybe he could return for another year and
get more valuable reps. Where do you come down from both, Well,
let's let's remove your bias perspective that if it is
(30:42):
that from the player's perspective, do you think that it
would be smart for him? If he even had let's
say he had a top ten grade, would you still say, hey,
you can go back and refine some of these things
and preserve an extra year on that Rockie contract.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I mean you could, But at the same time, it's
so individual right now with nil and the earnings potential
in college football is compared to like the big trump
card that the NFL had was oh, well, you know,
you go get your rookie contract and go jump on
a contract. But like, if you're confident in your ability
to do it, and you know you're even if you
(31:16):
don't go as high, even if you don't go with
the number one overall pick. Which would you rather have
the bigger rookie contract four years fully guaranteed, or would
you rather go to a place with a better situation
and environment and set you up for a better second
contract at which your earnings potential is not limited by
the rookie waite scale. So like that that argument or
that discussion point is a fascinating one, but it's every
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individual college kid is going to be different with that,
and I don't blame them for whatever side of that
fence that they choose to sit on. But it's really
taken the economics discussion, I think out of the game
unless you have like the utmost confidence that when you
get to the NFL level, you're going to make that
ascension at the in the pros and if you do that,
(32:03):
doing so sooner rather than later. Is I'm one year
closer to getting my second contract, never mind my first one.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Yeah, that's a good point, because I'm thinking, like you know,
I think I think we texted about this once. I
could be wrong, but didn't we talk about the success
rate of quarterbacks that don't go in the top three
or five and they get traded up for in that
like seven to fifteen range a lah A, Josh Allen
or Patrick Mahomes, Like, I mean, those those are the
(32:31):
teams that are ready and built to, you know, to
drop the quarterback in so to speak, right and to
take off from there.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Yeah, I think you consider the general consensus of top
three quarterbacks in the NFL right now is probably some
combination of Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, and Lamar Jackson. And
Baltimore traded up to thirty two from Lamar.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
I do you think of that?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
The Bills traded up twice to go from the early
twenties to seven for Josh Allen, and the Chiefs traded
up from the twenties to ten for Patrick Mahomes. And
then the same draft class, Houston came up from the
twenties and traded up for Deshaun Watson before his career
changed for significantly worse in the past several years. So
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he was playing high level football in that rookie contract
in Houston. So you think about guys like that. You
think about a guy like Jordan Love getting a chance
to be incubated and sit and get comfortable and learn
and get placed when he's ready to be a starter
as a guy who's elevating just the guys who organically
like they go to a bad team that picks in
the top five like and Miami lived that right with
(33:39):
this whole experience of trying to get it right around
to a tongue of a low. It required additional changes,
It required a coaching staff change, It required how many
different offensive systems, Like you almost have to be able
to have everything evaluated around and know exactly what kind
of skill set you need to drop in at the
quarterback position, or if you're going to get the quarterback first,
you need to more often than not give yourself significant
(34:03):
time for grace to evaluate the player and the players
around him and who works and who do we need
to replace? And then I got to find an opportunity
to go get that. So it is not as simple
as just get a top five pick, draft the quarterback,
plug and play let's rock and roll. And I think
you see a situation like Houston with CJ. Stroud, and
you know, people forget they were bad for three years
(34:26):
before that, and they evaluated the rest of the roster
and put a bunch of other stuff in place, because
I think they won like seven games in three years.
They were a bad team for an significant amount of time.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Yeah, they're they're kind of an outlier in terms of
teams that did pick that high and didn't have the
infrastructure we're talking about around the quarterback to make it happen.
And he I think he was just so special that
it kind of transcended all that idea. And then they
also had a great head coach and Tamiko Ryans who
built that defense and they went on gets Stefon Diggs
and Nico Collins becomes Nico Collins and Tank Dell like
they it worked out a lot of ways for them.
But I think it's a fascinating conversation because I I
(35:00):
wonder if there ever comes a point where agents are like,
you know that that's what I want. I want this
kid to go in the seven to ten range for
a franchise that was in the playoffs last year and
just wants to make that Alex Smith the Patrick Mahomes
bump or you know something like that. So really good
stuff really good conversation. Lets go ahead and take a
breakreak there. We're going a little bit longer than we
usually do with Kyle here. I want to come back
and talk about his guy, Garrett Nussmeyer, because I know
(35:21):
he loves his game. We'll do that and then put
a bow on this thing with Dolphins and Colts. That's
next Draft Time podcast. My guest today, Kyle Crabs Your host,
Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation. All right, Kyle,
the nuts bus you're driving it. You've been hired by
Greyhound Company and Services or whatever the hell we're calling it,
and you were at the forefront letting people on that bus. Man,
(35:43):
tell us why you love this kid so much and
why you think that his game is NFL ready today.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
This kid is a baller, and he didn't play particularly
well against Old Miss, but he played well when it mattered,
and he got a couple of critical fourth down conversions
on the game time drive, including of play in which
he had to extend within the pocket and buy enough
time and still had his eyes down the field in
all play that a lot of guys would have been
(36:09):
sacked on. And then the game tying throw is an
incredible anticipation throw over the middle of the field with
pinpoint accuracy and timing. And that's been the biggest thing
with watching the Mike McDaniel offense and when it's worked
and when it's been good during his two and a
half years or so with the Dolphins, it's really given
(36:31):
me an appreciation for like those skills in a quarterback
and why they matter and where they matter in a
world in which the outside of structure stuff is so
greatly romanticized, and it does have value. I'm not saying
that it doesn't, but to see how this offense has operated,
and to see somebody at the college level who really
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hadn't played a lot of football before this shit. He
came in hear with like two hundred career attempts, and
he's coming out here and he's ripping anticipation, throws outside
the numbers, he's processing and throwing early on stuff over
the middle of the field with accuracy and holes in
his own coverage, and then he has some ability to
extend with his legs and can get outside the pocket
and throw on the move. You understand why there's warts,
(37:15):
You understand why there's ups and downs, because again the
volume of play hasn't been there, but you just see
how you could tell this as a coach's son, and
you know, coach Nosmeyer's been at the NFL level for
quite a while and you could tell that Garrett's grown
up around the game. And I think Shader Sanders is
the same way too, as far as like working progressions
and using the field. But those elements of this position.
(37:41):
I've gotten a greater and greater element of respect for
having watched when Miami's offense has worked the way it
is designed to work.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
That's the number one thing I watched every time I
put a quarterback on is what you just talked about,
because I think that that's where the position foundation starts,
and then the off structure and extending plays is kind
of just a bonus that you get with. You know,
these two, we're star talents, like a Josh Allen, like
a Patrick Mahomes. So it's fun to watch, and you know,
it's I hate to make this comparison and I'm not
trying to say the players the same, but it kind
of reminds me of Joe Burrow at LSU where he
(38:11):
had that rough start at Ohio State, had the one
year there and then came back and all of a sudden,
he was, you know, basically what was the old Matt Lioner,
like ballroom dancing classes he was taking at USC towards
the end because he was out of out of he
didn't need more college credits. Or maybe I'm thinking about
Carson Palmer. I can't remember who Mark Sanchez. It was
a USC quarterback. I can't remember who was, but he was,
you know, coming back and basically just majorgan quarterback play.
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And that's kind of what Joe Burrow did that last
year at LSU, and he played just everything was like
he saw everything before it happened. And that's kind of
how I feel about nustbyer Man. So I think that
he is another guy that's going to go in the
first round if he comes out this year, and to me,
there's probably going to be like four of those guys.
So it's not a bad quarterback class man. I think
it's really really good stuff. And I like the way
you've kind of turned me on to him, and I've
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been very impressed watching him. So appreciate that big dog.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Real real quick. Did you see his pressure to say
a percentage.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Like under two?
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Right, it's one point eight percent, I mean, or sacks
for Garrett's but like that's an unreal number.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
That's that's all Marino. It's like Marino, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, it just an unreal number. And again another testament
for the the instinct that I think he think he
carries himself with it.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
I didn't know he was a coach's kid. Man. That's
that also changes the ballgame for me, because, like you said,
he's been doing this stuff probably since he was in
middle school, trying up concepts against coverages. So it tracks
that all tracks. Let's go ahead and fast forward to
Sunday here and Kyle, I'm pretty excited about this game.
I've you know, we've kind of gone through it here
as Dolphins fans and content creators alike, trying to get
this offense back. And I saw a graphic the other
(39:40):
day that it was very sobering. It was talking about
points scored per game through six weeks in the differential
from twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four, and of course,
the Dolphins rauaging almost forty points per game this time
last year. It's twelve points right now. But I think
they're on their way. I think They're on the way
to finding something different here, at least I hope going
into the coming out of the bye week. What's your
initial take here on Dolphins and Colts. They got a
(40:02):
bunch of guys that are banged up. The Dolphins obviously,
third game with Tyler Huntley at quarterback. What's your kind of,
you know, ten thousand foot view of this game?
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Yeah, I think this is this is gonna be a
really telling game. That was one of the messages that
I had on my show in my program this week
was like, this feels like that pivot point for the season.
And I know the first five games didn't really unfold
the way that anybody thought that they would, but there
was some flashes of some stuff against New England. And
I understand New England's a team that's struggling to find
(40:31):
their own way as well, But oh, can you build
on that? And if you could build on that and
you can start to apply it to all of your
opponents and all your teams that you're gonna play, then
I think the identity of this team that has so
many new pieces, I think that's the biggest thing that
when you retrospectively look back, it is probably would be a
good thing. When you asked me about the bye week
(40:52):
and what I thought I learned about the team, I
think when you retrospectively look back, a lot of the
nucleus of the Dolphins really since the nineteen build. There
was a lot of stability because they had a lot
of guys in on rookie contracts together, right, and those
that internal evaluation of those guys, you kind of knew
(41:14):
what you were working with. You kind of knew what
the launch point was as far as what you had
at your disposal. And I think with so many new
players on both sides of the ball, I think this
feels like the first time that that exploration of who
really are we? We think we know who we are,
but who really are we? And I think they've had
(41:35):
to learn that the hard way and do so without
their most important piece. But I'm really eager to see
if they can apply what happened down the stretch against
New England to another opponent, because if it does, I
do think there is an opportunity for them to kind
of stabilize their season and go from there.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
It does feel like an inflection point of sorts. I
don't want to ask you for a score or a
win loss prediction. But what do you think you'll see,
like to kind of predict what you think it looks
like on Sunday for the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Yeah, I think I would imagine coming out of the buy,
we will find enough ways to get some more production
out of your marquee players. So I think we'll see
an influx in production for Tyreek and Jalen specifically. I
would love to continue to see a run focused group,
especially with Tyler. We know he has a background of
being able to run the football himself. They really haven't
(42:27):
done much in that and I understand it's a short
turnaround and you're dealing with your third quarterback in as
many weeks, So is that something they took advantage of
on the bye week. I'm really looking to see what
layers did you add, and I think they will have some.
I think they should have some, and if they do,
I'm really excited to see what that can look like
for Miami. But that's kind of my expectation is what
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show me what the bye week had in store in
this game against the Colts.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
Locked on Dolphins podcast, Locked on NFL Scouting, author of
Touchdown Miami substat Go read his work there and of
course draft lead for the thirty third team. Kyle, great
stuff as always, my friend. You can find him on
Twitter at Grinding the Tape. Appreciate your time today and
enjoy the weekend, my friend.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Thanks Forravis, and away he goes.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Feeling silly, feeling good on this Friday. Here for the
Draft Time podcast, looking forward to what really the first
game I've been excited about in quite a while, so
I think that has put the pep in my step.
Hopefully it's a big Dolphins whin. We come back next
week and have some really fun news to share and
exciting times ahead for the Miami Dolphins. Hopefully there's all
of that to me on the line. Let's go get it.
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We'll talk to you on Sunday after the game. In
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(43:53):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:05):
From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. Please God my hands
in the playoffs?
Speaker 4 (00:26):
What is up Dolphins? And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
I am your host, Travis Wingfold on today's show. Two
guests and a ton of football knowledge. This is not
for the faint of heart, not for the casuals. Darryl
moose Johnston joins the podcast to break down this Dolphins
run game and the game on Sunday, and so much more.
(00:47):
Also nicknames and the disappearance of nicknames in the NFL world.
Plus the great Kyle Krabs joins us to talk about
this quarterback class, the weekend in college football, some bi
week self scouting, and the ten thousand foot view for
Dolphins colts. I think it's our best conversation to date,
quite personally, and you can tell me how you feel
about that. Here in just a few minutes from the
Baptist Hell Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex, holl.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
This Eales.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Who the Draft Podcast. Daffy, my guest today is three
times Super Bowl champion, two time Pro Bowl fullback and
the man you'll hear providing analysis for Sundays Dolphins and
Colts Tilt. Darryl Moose, Johnston Moose, welcome in, my friend,
who to be with you. Very happy to have you.
(01:31):
And I got to say, you know, Sundays in my
childhood included a lot of watching Cowboys games, and I
think that was one of the best nickname or eras
I should say, for nicknames, and you're one of the
ones that comes to the forefront of my mind. And
like I said, none better than a full back name Moose.
But I kind of feel like we've lost the nickname,
like there's no great nicknames anymore. Am I wrong on that?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
That's a good point. I hadn't really thought about it,
and we haven't had one in a while.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
There's no more Billy white Shoes Johnson's out there.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah right, I mean that was that was tremendous. I
mean that's my era, Kenny the Snake Stablers. I mean
there was some Yeah, there was, there was great ones
back there and really even and I know it has
to go along with the performance of the group, but
the Purple People leaders, Steve Curtin no name, you know,
there was some there was just some really cool stuff
(02:23):
with football last year, and I hadn't even really thought
about that, but yeah, we've kind of gotten away from
that a little bit.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Yeah, I guess the Cheetah is a pretty good one
to go back to the previous area. You're talking about
the killer beat. I love that one personally. Just I mean, yeah,
I feel like every baseball, football, whatever the sport was,
there was always the mound round of rebound. Like that
doesn't exist anymore, you know what I.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Mean, exactly exactly, And I grew up. I grew up
a Dolphin fan as a kid, So yeah, I mean,
you know, for me, you know in those days, you
know you mentioned the Killer Bees, but you know, even
before that, you know, I was a big fan of
Larry's aka Jim Kick Mercury Morris.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Sad to hear the news of losing him.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
But just what the characters back then, you know, I
think if maybe the nicknames have faded away because we
don't have the characters like we had back then as well.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Maybe they're a little more behind the scenes compared to
nowadays when they're all on social media, all very front
facing for us.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
All.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
So there's there's a little bit of old head talk
for you guys heading into this game on Sunday, Let's
go ahead and preview this kind of sneaky, big matchup
in the AFC. The Colts off a couple of wins here,
the Dolphins trying to get back to five hundred ahead
of the potential return of quarterback one to a tongue
of Bailoa. The winner of this game, Moose, I think,
comes out of it feeling pretty good about themselves. As
you're sort of early in your week of prep work here,
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you know, talking to you on a Wednesday, what do
you think is a storyline that kind of heads the
marquee for you if you will in this game.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I think the biggest question is going to be, you know,
how much further down the road is Tyler Huntley in
this offense? You know, I think one of the things
that I haven't had a chance to get the response yet,
but I wanted to see because motion is such a
huge part of what Mike McDaniel does. What was the
you know, average snaps that that had some type of
motion you know early on in the season when Tua
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was still playing. You know what happened, you know, when
you got to the point where Skyler Thompson came in
probably stays relatively the same. But then when Tyler Huntley
came in, what happened there And just watching some of
the game tape, you know, the speed across with the
receivers appeared to me to be down, but alec Ingold
was won. I think the tight ends and the full
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back we're being utilized more in motion there. And it's
such a huge part of what this offense does, whether
it's you know, trying to get some information about how
the defense is going to play, you undressing things, allowing
the quarterback to have a little bit of information at
the snap of the ball. So here you've got a
quarterback coming in, learning a system in a short amount
of time, trying to create the best opportunity for him
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to have success, and one of those ways is is
to have some of that motion so he can see
exactly what's going on pre snap.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
And And is that a little bit too much?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I remember in San fran Cisco when Jimmy Garoppolo came
out and I'm hoping to be able to pull this
off in our broadcast, but Kyle Shanahan told us he's.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Like, listen, he goes, this is a hard offense.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
It's it's very verbose, and it's very different than what
Jimmy had in New England. And I've got all these
fans out here clamoring for me to put Jimmy on
the field. He's just not ready because our our system
is very complicated. And I said, well, give me an
example of a play call, and he rattles this thing
off and I'm.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
So he literally gave us a play call that we
put on a graphic and put it on TV. It
went all the way across one line and then it
was halfway across another.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So I'm gonna I'm going to ask coach McDaniel.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
If he'll let us do that this week, just so
people can appreciate, you know what Tyler Huntley has been
trying to consume over the last three plus weeks and
trying to get ready for this offense. And that's just
the ability to walk into the huddle, to hear it
and repeat it. And now you've got to sit there
and think about everything that's going on as you go
to the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah, I was going to say, that's that's the mental
side of just getting to the snap right and after
that you have to worry about whorred pieces move on
the defense. But the part that I wanted to follow
up on was how the footwork is so imperative to
the timing of the timing of the routes the receivers,
and how you have to be at a certain level
of your drop when they at the top of their route,
and it all times up with you know too, a
Reagan waddle having thousands and thousands of banked reps. Where
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Huntley's coming in here trying to do it, like you mentioned,
off of just a couple of weeks of work. I'm
curious do you think the bye week can be as
I suppose impactful as I've seen some fans talk about,
and we've heard coach McDaniel mentioned that he did put
in time during the bye week to work on that stuff.
But in your in your opinion as an ex player
and a guy that does this every week and breaks
these tapes down, how much do you think the bye
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week can help a new player kind of acclimate like that?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
What's going to be helpful, It's going to be a positive.
I don't know how much it moves the needle. You know,
you want to get tow out to the point where
he's very, very comfortable in a core group of plays
and then being able to add a couple of things in,
you know, from week to week based on your opponents.
So I would I would think that the offensive coaching
staff right now is working on expanding that foundational offense
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that that they're trying to get Tyler very very comfortable with.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
So it's more about the execution component.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
So it you don't want volume right now, I mean
that that's the biggest thing. You don't want to overwhelm
somebody with volume. So you know, for me, and we
hear this all the time, you know, there's eleven guys
out there on the field, and you've got one new
guy and he's trying to learn everything.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Those other ten they got to do their role.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And it's one of the great things that you know,
you hear coach McDaniel continue to talk about, is you know,
I don't know if the guys around are doing enough
right now.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
And I think that that's very fair.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And so I'm interested to see what happens this week
against Indianapolis because if you go back and you watch
and we had we had green Bay right after they
played Indianapolis and they were going to play Tennessee and
it was during Malik Willis's time as Jordan Love was
was still getting back healthy. And you know what Matt
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Lafleur created in the run game against Indianapolis. Now, you're
not gonna you're not gonna fool Gus Bred twice. But
what can you do there? I know you want to
have that downfield throw as part of what you do
on an offense, but the best thing for you to do,
and watching how green Bay approached it and really just
leaned on that run and said you're going to have
to prove to us that you can stop this before
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we move off it. And it took Indianapolis into the
third quarter before they kind of did that. And then
you kind of went to some play accident and some
things that Willis could do. Being familiar with that style
and knowing mad does coach McDaniel come into that same
situation and say, Okay, we can do some things here
with motion and personnel and different formation things. And the
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speed that this offense has is always going to be
a threat to a defense and it doesn't have to
be getting behind them down the field, it can be
coming across horizontally in the run game, and that was
one of the big elements there. You know, they were
pounding Josh Jacobs between the tackles and on the edge,
but then all of a sudden you had Jayden Reed
and Bo Melton, you know coming across on these jet sweeps.
Had to have you know, Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle
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with the speed that they have. You know, I think
that there's some creative things that the coach McDaniel can do,
just kind of watching some of that Green Bay film
against against the Indianapolis Colts with.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
A similar style offense that Matt Lafleur runs there from
what coach McDaniel runs as well, So it makes a
lot of sense and there's a good pivot off of that.
Because one of my questions was about Dolphins fullback Alec
Ingle that I had for you. I'm sure you plug
on the Dolphins and Patriots tape by now, and I'm
sure that was pretty cool for you to watch a
guy do all the things that he did in terms
of those motions, because to me, I thought it was
different with sometimes he would like start to motion across
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the formation and then would peel back into that offset
I look and then go from there. And the way
they were able to kind of widen those C and
D gaps, it created these these spaces for the Dolphins
running backs to hit and they had all kinds of room.
I'm just curious how does Ingold and his flexibility in
the nature of playing I guess kind of the f
position more so than an actual true fullback. How do
you think that his presence changes the dynamic of the
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Dolphins offense from a position that you know, I guess
like what one third one quarter of the team the
NFL actually rosters.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, and I'm hoping that that continues to grow and
when you have offenses they can do the things that
that Miami has done over the you know, going into
last season and what San Francisco does with with Kyle Huscheck.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I mean, I think it's a very very valuable position.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I think that the guys up front on the defensive
side have become very very dominant. You know, there's such big, quick,
fast twitch guys that there's a lot of quick losses,
you know, inside and to have that fullback there to
cover him up so your running back doesn't have to
make a decision, you know, with a with a big
defender right in his face, and then to watch how
what Alec does what I was impressed with against New England.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It's one of the.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Harder blocks there is where it's the short motion in
coming in just inside the tight end and then going
up going upfield, and sometimes that that timing is kind
of hit right where you're perpendicular to the line of
scrimmage and then you got to turn and enter the
running lane. And you know, it is not an easy block.
It is actually a very challenging block. And he does
it very well. He's got great he's got great feel
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for who to blog and and there's you know, there's
a huge rule.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
You know, you never run past color.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
And it takes a while to get used to that
because sometimes you'll bypass because you trust your running back
to be able to be beyond that, but to be
able to go through the line of scrimmage with all
those bodies around. And Alec does a great job of
sorting out and who's the most dangerous man on this
play right now? And it was really really fun to
watch him kind of work out. But I thought what
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they were asking him to do is one of the
more challenging blocks. It looks like it's going to be
like a kind of a wham type play, but then
he's going vertical up to the second level, and you've
got safeties dropping down, you've got linebacker scraping. There was
a number of times when there was multiple people in
that hole. We're in opposite color, and he was really
really good at getting the one who is the most
the most threatening to his running back.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
That's that's why I love watching this offense so much,
and I'm sure someone like you does as well, with
all the different kind of things they can offer in
terms of, you know, a false keys and eye candy
for the defense to get off balance and get out
leverage and ultimately get taken care of in the running game.
And with that thought, you know that that Patriots game,
they ran for nearly two hundred yards and they had
success with Raheem Mostert and Jalen Wright, who I just
continue to be so impressed by. I'm curious how you
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feel like they can stack up against this Colts front
that will be without Taekwon Lewis, that will be without
Samson Ebucom and possibly without DeForest Buckner.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Who.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
We just talked to coach McDaniels wednesday press conference and
he was like, oh, I saw that guy for two
a day's you know, for so many years and I
want to see him again. If what does it look
like with and without him in the lineup because he
could play, he could not play. How much does that
change how the Dolphins can run the ball against the
Colts defense.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
You never want to go completely away from something.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
But when you mentioned you know a name Lake the
forest buckner in the presence that he has inside, you know,
every once in a while, you're gonna have to run
at him, but you can control that. You can get
to the other side. You're going to know where he's
going to be pre snap, you know, getting on the edges.
And again we talked about that speed that Miami has
in their offense, and I agree with you as well.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I think Jalen Wright.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I've gotten to see two games so far, and there
you saw a little bit of it, you know, earlier
in the season, and then really against New England, you know,
it really kind of popped on you. And uh, you
hear all these coaches talk about, you know, we go
with the hot hand and we've got running back by committee,
but all of a sudden, somebody's kind of hitting that
stride and they've got a good feel, you know, I
think I think Jalen is there right now and has
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earned the opportunity for a couple of more snaps.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
So I think it's going to be interesting.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
But you know, the more you can you can stay away.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
From the forest, Buckner and kind of get out on
those edges, the better. But it is also one of
those things where you're gonna have to come inside from
time to time. And and really I would like this
is one of the great things that North Turner would
do with us in Dallas, whether it was an injury
or playing against a guy like Deon Sanders. Let's see
how mentally he is into the game right now, Let's
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see how good he is physically coming off that injury,
and test him early in the game.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
And and if if all of a sudden he shows
up and he's.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Stout, Okay, the forest is the worse today, So let's
let's go back to what our initial plan was. But
you can't just shy away from attacking that area. So
you know, I would come in and every once in
a while just kind of check early on in that game,
how well is he feeling, how well is he playing?
And then if he's if he's the guy that coach
McDaniel remembers from back in two days. Okay, let's get
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out to the outside a little bit on the next
couple series.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
All Right, there's a reason he was once traded for
I think the fourteenth pick in the draft. He is very,
very good at what he does. If I might follow
up there on Jalen Wright, because I've been talking about
it on the show all week. Here it goes back
to OTA's He's been impressive really since he got here
with the Miami Dolphins. I'm curious, just from your perspective,
how impressive is it for a player like that to
come into a system that you mentioned is complex and
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has so much exogt stuff it does in the running
game for a new player, a rookie in his fifth
NFL game, to come out and kind of have some
of the success where I'm sure you saw it too,
Moose that there's the tracks he took with the running
game on Sunday against the Patriots, I thought he really
showed just a good feel for how he needs to
set up his blocks and ankles to in the running game.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, I think that that's that's one of the bigger
things and you'll see it. You know, Patience is one
of the big traits for good running backs tonight, in
today's game especially, you know, as this you know, the
wide zone starts to become more and more prominent, you know,
getting on that track, staying on that track, trusting your guys,
waiting for the defensive line to actually make their commitment.
You know, it's kind of a you know, you're playing
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chicken a little bit, you know, is the blocking is
kind of coming together in front of you, and then
all of a sudden, there's going to have that split
where are you going backdoor?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Are you? Are you pressing and coming right around him?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
So you know, to have that that patience, but then
the explosion once he sees it, and you know, that
was always the thing that we were taught, you know,
coming through this. You know, it's it's patience to the
whole and then explosion through the hole. And and those
are the really good running backs. And he's just one
of those guys that has that really really good feel
for you know, that zone scheme. So you know, I
agree with you he he really pops out on film
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the last couple of games you watch, and you know
for me that that's that's a huge plus because you know,
I come from the era where if you had that
premiere back, that number one guy, and we had Emmett
and Barry Sanders was there. There was a number of
teams that you leaned on a guy in a twenty
five thirty Kerry game was was not a big deal.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
You know that that's not the way things are done today.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
And now you go in and you look at what
Mike McDaniel was actually able to do out in San Francisco.
Is one of the key people in creating that run
game that San Francisco uses. But look at the running
backs that they brought in a lot of times, you know,
not the high draft pick. They have a really good
feel and an evaluation process for who's going to be
the best fit in this offense. So obviously you know
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he's done it again because you know, Jalen Wright is
one of those guys that you wonder how everybody missed
on him when you watch him play in the game.
But there's something that Mike McDaniel recognizes in a running
back that helps him understand how he's going to fit
in his offense. And you saw how many guys are
able to find in San Francisco that proved to be really,
really good running back that nobody really heard of. And
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then you're seeing it here again with Jalen Wright in Miami.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yep, right, h hm, both mid round picks Bolster and
Jeff Wilson both undrafted free agents back in San Francisco
as well. So he's been doing it for a long time.
If I could ask you one more question here a
moose to flip it over to the Colt side of
the football. Sounds like we will get Anthony Richardson, a
quarterback at least has the plan as of today, and
we'll see what happens with Ryan Kelly, the Colts center,
whether or not he can go in the game on Sunday,
and his place would be rookie Tanner Bordolini, which, to me,
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the question I want to ask you is about a
rookie center who's only done this for you know, a
few games so far, obviously, and a quarterback who had
minimal college reps, minimal reps as a rookie and now
has only played a couple of games in his sophomore season.
How do you think the Dolphins and coach Anthony Weaver
can attack a young Colts. I suppose battery and the
protection scheme to kind of make things tough on richardson Sunday.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, that's that's very very savvy, right there. Young center,
young quarterback, not a lot of experience. A lot of
times you'll see the it's a young center, but it's
a veteran quarterback. So I'm going to take some of
those calls off you. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna
handle protection. I can slide different things or vice versa
young quarterback veterans center. Hey, we're gonna throw it over here.
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You know, we had Tampa Bay earlier this season and
as they're bringing up their their their first round draft pick,
who's playing center right now? You know Baker Mayfield has
stepped up and taken a little bit more off of
the plate at the center and put it on his
plate at the line of scrimmage. So that's a great
example of that. When you've got the two young guys.
It'll be interesting to see if if if coach Weaver
comes in and really stresses that early on you know,
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how is the communication here, how is the recognition, because
that's definitely one of the biggest things in the NFL
when you talk about quarterback play, and it's probably one
of the things that a lot of people talked about
when Anthony Richardson was drafted as high as he was.
That's not a lot of games there, It's not a
lot of experience there. It's going to be a difficult
transition or a challenging transition for him just going to
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the NFL and that style of play, on top of
the fact that he still hasn't had a lot of
football to kind of put in that memory bank.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
You know, when you look at a J.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Daniels at fifty five games of Bo Nicks at sixty
one games and see how they're playing right now, it's
because they've seen a lot of football during the course
of their college career. So I think that that's going
to be one of the things that you need to
keep an eye on. All of a sudden, do you
see whether it used to be overloads where you have
four and you're out on the edges and you're trying
to get there. Now, all of a sudden, we see
something concentrated into the a gaps and really let's test
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their communication. Exactly what we talked about with the forest.
If there's a weakness or something that you think could
be an advantage for you, you've got to test at it
as soon as you can during the course of the game,
and if it proves to be that case, then you
keep doing that until they get it corrected. So that'll
be fun to watch in the beginning of the game
and see if there's an opportunity to attack inside and
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how the Colts adjust to that.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
We had Jayden Daniels down here for joint practices and
it was one day of practice Moose, and I'm telling you,
that guy looked like he's been doing this for fifteen years.
It was incredible how poison and in command he was
with that commander's offense. No pun intended there.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, And we had just a couple of weeks ago
and just you know, really kind of the production meeting
that you have with with the quarterbacks and the coaches
and the guys you want to visit with, and then
really going down to the field and talking to them.
There the maturity that he had, you know, kind of
that old soul type guy. And we had Jayden week one,
and yeah it was there was nothing too big for him.
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And that's just that's having that confidence banked and you
playing that many games and you see some really unique
things at the collegiate level, so it's easy. It's just
learning that vocabulary at the professional level. But you've seen
it before. There's no way you haven't seen a lot
of what you're going to see up here. And when
you have all those reps banked in you and your
memory bank, it's much easier for those guys to kind
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of work through.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
That really good stuff that we got smart about the
an NFL in general and the Dolphins and Colts matchup
Sunday one o'clock kickoff. Daryl Moose Johnson alongside Kevin Kougler
from Indianapolis. Moose appreciate your time, enjoy the game, and
enjoy the many steakhouses Indy has to offer on Saturday
night as well.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Absolutely absolutely, And the.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Way he goes, I couldn't have I've loved that chat
more and I couldn't have loved my chat with my
next guest, Kyle Krabs. That's after the break Draft Time
podcast your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation.
I feel like every time we have a primetime game
or a week off, that's when college football tends to
pop off. As we missed the great Kyle Crabs here
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on the show, the host of Lockdown Dolphins and Locked
On NFL Scouting, author of Touchdown Miami, NFL Draft lead
for the thirty third team. Kyle, my friend, how was
your bye weekend?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Relaxing and stress free? Which is all you can ever
hope for in a bye week? So excited to get
back in and we got twelve football games to play
for the regular season and see where things go from here.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Yeah. Man, coming off a win and the bye week,
it's like I haven't really stressed about football in like
two and a half weeks. It's been really, really nice.
Yesterday in the podcast, I told a story about how
I used to go to the mailbox and wait for
VHS copies to arrive in the mail just to rewatch
football games. And I would eventually wear those VHS tapes
out to where the film no longer work because I
watched them so often. I'm curious, do you have a
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as a fellow thirty something, do you have an old
man story about your football obsession? From a young age.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah, what I got in trouble. Actually, you know they
how they sold the blank cassette tapes, Yes, and then
you could like record on the TV or something. My
parents kept recording like movies and things on the blank ones,
and I kept like going into their stash and stealing
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a few blank ones and like recording games, and then
I put them back in the box and you knew
which ones like they were, and then they would go
to watch the movie that they had recorded, and it
would be like a football game that I recorded over
the top of their movie, like thirty minutes in. It
didn't rewind it all the way, so they watched the
first thirty minutes and then like this random game would start.
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And boy did I hear about that when that came
to light. So that's that's my story about something like that.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
You're about to find out that Bruce Willis is in
fact a ghost, and then it cuts to like a
Lamar Smith twenty three yard touchdown.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
RD.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Oh man, that's pretty good. I did the exact same thing,
and I would I would literally buy Best Buy out
of their vh their blank VHS copies. And one of
my claims to fame is that I have somewhere in
a box the entire seven season on VHS tape. Bluss
my heart for doing that. I remember there was a game,
and this is before I had Sunday Ticket where uh,
like you know how they would do. They would cut
away and go to the competitive game in progress.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Late.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
There was a game in like two thousand and six
at the Jets where the Dolphins were close and driving
for a possible like game tying field goal or something,
and I ended up record like the last three minutes
of the game and I just random my closet, grab
one of those or the the you know, the DVD
VHS closet, and grab one of those things and popped
it in and have like four minutes of a failed
game winning drive from the Dolphins in two thousand and six.
So man, tougher times back then trying to get your
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football fix.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Yeah, a lot different than NFL Pro now, where you
can put the filters on and just automatically watch multiple
angle of any given play at six am the following day.
It's crazy time to be alive as a football fan.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
I'll say that it sure is. And we were hardened
by our trials and tribulations coming up. Let's go ahead
and get into this week and talk about this football
game and of course the weekend in college football. But
I want to start coming off the bye week here, Kyle,
just with I guess maybe your own self scouting. I
know you kind of like to put yourself in position
as if you're like running the Dolphins is kind of
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your whole approach to content and I love it. What
did the buye we provide you in terms of things
you learned about this Dolphins team?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah, I think there's a lot of avoidable things, so
a lot of easily avoidable things, and you've seen some
good moments. But you know, when you're playing offense with
the backup quarterback, you understand that you know the efficiency
of the operation from a pre snap perspective, and a
consistency of accuracy of throws and the timing of the
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offense is a timing ran of offense. You understand that
that's not always going to be there. And what I
really liked that they showed against New England was tough yards.
They bought into getting tough yards and not trying to
do too much with the football, and I think that's
easy for skill guys to press. I don't know when
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I'm gonna get into the ball, so let me try
to make something happen here, and you end up losing
some of the yards that was already on the field
and available for you to have. So I hope they
carry that with them, and I hope they If they
do that, I think they can make staying on schedule
on offense a little bit more consistent, even though the
explosive play rates has so much room to grow versus
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what it was last year.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
And I think coach at one point, and I forget
what day or even what weak this was, he talked
about it. I think it was back after the Patriots
came about how you know, you kind of see the
running back go into the pile and you have an
assumption of what the down distance is going to be
for a second down, and he's looking at the call
sheet for a second and nine. You look up and
all of a sudden at second and six because Jalen
Wright or Raheem Moster has pushed the pile in extra
three yards. It goes a long way, especially in a
(25:59):
game that has been kind of ball controlled defense style
for the Dolphins these last few weeks. So yeah, I'm
looking forward to that too. I think it's something to
be excited about for this game against the Colts on Sunday.
We'll get to that in one second. Let's go ahead
and go backwards first to Saturday. I want to talk
about the quarterback class eventually, Kyle, because I continue to
think that it's better than be getting given credit for
across you know, major publications and amateurs alike. But let's
(26:21):
talk about this weekend's worth of games before the quarterbacks.
What stands out from a good matchup perspective about guys
that you think potentially could be long term fits for
the Dolphins in the future draft classes.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Man, So you have a couple of heavyweight games with
Alabama and Tennessee. You have Georgia Texas. I think that's
the one at seven thirty that you should absolutely have marked.
Whether it's offensive lineman. Texas has a pair of offensive tackles
that some people think is top fifty caliber players. George's
(26:52):
got into your offensive lineman. They can play at a
super high level. I know, at least for Calvin Banks,
the other the tackle from Texas, some people wonder if
he's beat suited to play inside. At the next level,
you've got quarterbacks on both sides and Quinn Oohor's and
Carson Beck defensively, you have a lot of talent for
Georgia on all three levels of the defense. Texas kind
(27:14):
of got picked over a little bit with some of
their better players in the draft this past year. But
whether you're looking for just drafting good players authentically or
you're looking at specific areas that are perceived to be
needs for the Dolphins, whether that's depth on the interior
defensive line or potentially a guard with a couple of
expiring contracts as your starting guards right now, even tight end.
(27:34):
Both of these these teams have tight end prospects that
are eligible for twenty twenty five. Like, it's got everything
in that game. So if you want the game, Georgia
Texas seven thirty. If you told me you came out
of a draft class and only took players off those
two teams, I probably would not be mad about it,
if we're being honest.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Akin to twenty nineteen LSU Alabama.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Right, yeah, and that being a game that I was at,
it's so funny to sit back on all the players
on that field, how impactful they've become this has probably
like top to bottom roster wise. I'm not saying like
the quarterbacks are in that stratosphere of Joe Burrow into
a tongue of malola, but top to bottom roster wise
(28:17):
and just numbers of NFL players, it is right up there.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
I do want to go back to a player you
talked about a little bit in the Alabama Tanna Sea
game because I want to pivot to quarterback talk here
and you've been driving the nusbus. Man, I want to
get to his game against Ole Miss here in just
one second that I thought was maybe by the box
score and by a couple of maybe just live shots,
you're thinking wasn't his best game. But man, I thought
there was some stuff on that tape that was really
really impressive about how you project to the next level.
(28:40):
But before that, you know, we talked about Shader Sanders,
We talked about cam Ward a heck of a lot
on the show. I want to talk about Milroe and
nuss Meyer because to me that might be like kind
of the next guys in that grouping there, maybe even
above the first two guys I mentioned. We didn't talk
after Millroe played Van Dy when they lost that game.
But I thought Kyle that he he was so impressive
(29:01):
in that game because we know the physical traits, we
know what you know four four four or five speed
can get you, you know, from any position on the
football field. But how impressive you've been by his growth
and the way he sees the field in post nap
rotation and layering the football into you know, the in
between the hook linebacker and the deep safety. Like I
think he has the goods man.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I think he does too. I do think there's still
a lot of room for growth as far as consistency
of timing and footwork and placement. But like you could tell,
the big growth it feels like for him is the
game has slowed down and you know there's more trust
in the athletic profile that exists there. And I think
(29:43):
that's really helpful when a guy has those tools and
he's not so eager to in case of emergency break
glass and use it. And once that starts to slow
down and you get a better feel of, hey, I
do need to get out of this pocket, or I
do need to get out of this rush lane and
get outside the pocket. And I know how much time
I have and I know what kinds of angles that
(30:03):
I can defeat. All of that tying into I think
what has been more consistent POSTNAT processing in a different
offensive system, I think shows you some growth potential that
you can continue to project for him.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Do you feel like, and this probably is a conflict
of interest in terms of your desire to see good
players come out for the draft because it helps your
profession and gives you more bites at the apple for
the Dolphins as well, but also like unselfishly kind of
feel like maybe he could return for another year and
get more valuable reps. Where do you come down from both, Well,
let's let's remove your bias perspective that if it is
(30:42):
that from the player's perspective, do you think that it
would be smart for him? If he even had let's
say he had a top ten grade, would you still say, hey,
you can go back and refine some of these things
and preserve an extra year on that Rockie contract.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I mean you could, But at the same time, it's
so individual right now with nil and the earnings potential
in college football is compared to like the big trump
card that the NFL had was oh, well, you know,
you go get your rookie contract and go jump on
a contract. But like, if you're confident in your ability
to do it, and you know you're even if you
(31:16):
don't go as high, even if you don't go with
the number one overall pick. Which would you rather have
the bigger rookie contract four years fully guaranteed, or would
you rather go to a place with a better situation
and environment and set you up for a better second
contract at which your earnings potential is not limited by
the rookie waite scale. So like that that argument or
that discussion point is a fascinating one, but it's every
(31:40):
individual college kid is going to be different with that,
and I don't blame them for whatever side of that
fence that they choose to sit on. But it's really
taken the economics discussion, I think out of the game
unless you have like the utmost confidence that when you
get to the NFL level, you're going to make that
ascension at the in the pros and if you do that,
(32:03):
doing so sooner rather than later. Is I'm one year
closer to getting my second contract, never mind my first one.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Yeah, that's a good point, because I'm thinking, like you know,
I think I think we texted about this once. I
could be wrong, but didn't we talk about the success
rate of quarterbacks that don't go in the top three
or five and they get traded up for in that
like seven to fifteen range a lah A, Josh Allen
or Patrick Mahomes, Like, I mean, those those are the
(32:31):
teams that are ready and built to, you know, to
drop the quarterback in so to speak, right and to
take off from there.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Yeah, I think you consider the general consensus of top
three quarterbacks in the NFL right now is probably some
combination of Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, and Lamar Jackson. And
Baltimore traded up to thirty two from Lamar.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
I do you think of that?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
The Bills traded up twice to go from the early
twenties to seven for Josh Allen, and the Chiefs traded
up from the twenties to ten for Patrick Mahomes. And
then the same draft class, Houston came up from the
twenties and traded up for Deshaun Watson before his career
changed for significantly worse in the past several years. So
(33:16):
he was playing high level football in that rookie contract
in Houston. So you think about guys like that. You
think about a guy like Jordan Love getting a chance
to be incubated and sit and get comfortable and learn
and get placed when he's ready to be a starter
as a guy who's elevating just the guys who organically
like they go to a bad team that picks in
the top five like and Miami lived that right with
(33:39):
this whole experience of trying to get it right around
to a tongue of a low. It required additional changes,
It required a coaching staff change, It required how many
different offensive systems, Like you almost have to be able
to have everything evaluated around and know exactly what kind
of skill set you need to drop in at the
quarterback position, or if you're going to get the quarterback first,
you need to more often than not give yourself significant
(34:03):
time for grace to evaluate the player and the players
around him and who works and who do we need
to replace? And then I got to find an opportunity
to go get that. So it is not as simple
as just get a top five pick, draft the quarterback,
plug and play let's rock and roll. And I think
you see a situation like Houston with CJ. Stroud, and
you know, people forget they were bad for three years
(34:26):
before that, and they evaluated the rest of the roster
and put a bunch of other stuff in place, because
I think they won like seven games in three years.
They were a bad team for an significant amount of time.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Yeah, they're they're kind of an outlier in terms of
teams that did pick that high and didn't have the
infrastructure we're talking about around the quarterback to make it happen.
And he I think he was just so special that
it kind of transcended all that idea. And then they
also had a great head coach and Tamiko Ryans who
built that defense and they went on gets Stefon Diggs
and Nico Collins becomes Nico Collins and Tank Dell like
they it worked out a lot of ways for them.
But I think it's a fascinating conversation because I I
(35:00):
wonder if there ever comes a point where agents are like,
you know that that's what I want. I want this
kid to go in the seven to ten range for
a franchise that was in the playoffs last year and
just wants to make that Alex Smith the Patrick Mahomes
bump or you know something like that. So really good
stuff really good conversation. Lets go ahead and take a
breakreak there. We're going a little bit longer than we
usually do with Kyle here. I want to come back
and talk about his guy, Garrett Nussmeyer, because I know
(35:21):
he loves his game. We'll do that and then put
a bow on this thing with Dolphins and Colts. That's
next Draft Time podcast. My guest today, Kyle Crabs Your host,
Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation. All right, Kyle,
the nuts bus you're driving it. You've been hired by
Greyhound Company and Services or whatever the hell we're calling it,
and you were at the forefront letting people on that bus. Man,
(35:43):
tell us why you love this kid so much and
why you think that his game is NFL ready today.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
This kid is a baller, and he didn't play particularly
well against Old Miss, but he played well when it mattered,
and he got a couple of critical fourth down conversions
on the game time drive, including of play in which
he had to extend within the pocket and buy enough
time and still had his eyes down the field in
all play that a lot of guys would have been
(36:09):
sacked on. And then the game tying throw is an
incredible anticipation throw over the middle of the field with
pinpoint accuracy and timing. And that's been the biggest thing
with watching the Mike McDaniel offense and when it's worked
and when it's been good during his two and a
half years or so with the Dolphins, it's really given
(36:31):
me an appreciation for like those skills in a quarterback
and why they matter and where they matter in a
world in which the outside of structure stuff is so
greatly romanticized, and it does have value. I'm not saying
that it doesn't, but to see how this offense has operated,
and to see somebody at the college level who really
(36:53):
hadn't played a lot of football before this shit. He
came in hear with like two hundred career attempts, and
he's coming out here and he's ripping anticipation, throws outside
the numbers, he's processing and throwing early on stuff over
the middle of the field with accuracy and holes in
his own coverage, and then he has some ability to
extend with his legs and can get outside the pocket
and throw on the move. You understand why there's warts,
(37:15):
You understand why there's ups and downs, because again the
volume of play hasn't been there, but you just see
how you could tell this as a coach's son, and
you know, coach Nosmeyer's been at the NFL level for
quite a while and you could tell that Garrett's grown
up around the game. And I think Shader Sanders is
the same way too, as far as like working progressions
and using the field. But those elements of this position.
(37:41):
I've gotten a greater and greater element of respect for
having watched when Miami's offense has worked the way it
is designed to work.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
That's the number one thing I watched every time I
put a quarterback on is what you just talked about,
because I think that that's where the position foundation starts,
and then the off structure and extending plays is kind
of just a bonus that you get with. You know,
these two, we're star talents, like a Josh Allen, like
a Patrick Mahomes. So it's fun to watch, and you know,
it's I hate to make this comparison and I'm not
trying to say the players the same, but it kind
of reminds me of Joe Burrow at LSU where he
(38:11):
had that rough start at Ohio State, had the one
year there and then came back and all of a sudden,
he was, you know, basically what was the old Matt Lioner,
like ballroom dancing classes he was taking at USC towards
the end because he was out of out of he
didn't need more college credits. Or maybe I'm thinking about
Carson Palmer. I can't remember who Mark Sanchez. It was
a USC quarterback. I can't remember who was, but he was,
you know, coming back and basically just majorgan quarterback play.
(38:33):
And that's kind of what Joe Burrow did that last
year at LSU, and he played just everything was like
he saw everything before it happened. And that's kind of
how I feel about nustbyer Man. So I think that
he is another guy that's going to go in the
first round if he comes out this year, and to me,
there's probably going to be like four of those guys.
So it's not a bad quarterback class man. I think
it's really really good stuff. And I like the way
you've kind of turned me on to him, and I've
(38:54):
been very impressed watching him. So appreciate that big dog.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Real real quick. Did you see his pressure to say
a percentage.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Like under two?
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Right, it's one point eight percent, I mean, or sacks
for Garrett's but like that's an unreal number.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
That's that's all Marino. It's like Marino, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, it just an unreal number. And again another testament
for the the instinct that I think he think he
carries himself with it.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
I didn't know he was a coach's kid. Man. That's
that also changes the ballgame for me, because, like you said,
he's been doing this stuff probably since he was in
middle school, trying up concepts against coverages. So it tracks
that all tracks. Let's go ahead and fast forward to
Sunday here and Kyle, I'm pretty excited about this game.
I've you know, we've kind of gone through it here
as Dolphins fans and content creators alike, trying to get
this offense back. And I saw a graphic the other
(39:40):
day that it was very sobering. It was talking about
points scored per game through six weeks in the differential
from twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four, and of course,
the Dolphins rauaging almost forty points per game this time
last year. It's twelve points right now. But I think
they're on their way. I think They're on the way
to finding something different here, at least I hope going
into the coming out of the bye week. What's your
initial take here on Dolphins and Colts. They got a
(40:02):
bunch of guys that are banged up. The Dolphins obviously,
third game with Tyler Huntley at quarterback. What's your kind of,
you know, ten thousand foot view of this game?
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Yeah, I think this is this is gonna be a
really telling game. That was one of the messages that
I had on my show in my program this week
was like, this feels like that pivot point for the season.
And I know the first five games didn't really unfold
the way that anybody thought that they would, but there
was some flashes of some stuff against New England. And
I understand New England's a team that's struggling to find
(40:31):
their own way as well, But oh, can you build
on that? And if you could build on that and
you can start to apply it to all of your
opponents and all your teams that you're gonna play, then
I think the identity of this team that has so
many new pieces, I think that's the biggest thing that
when you retrospectively look back, it is probably would be a
good thing. When you asked me about the bye week
(40:52):
and what I thought I learned about the team, I
think when you retrospectively look back, a lot of the
nucleus of the Dolphins really since the nineteen build. There
was a lot of stability because they had a lot
of guys in on rookie contracts together, right, and those
that internal evaluation of those guys, you kind of knew
(41:14):
what you were working with. You kind of knew what
the launch point was as far as what you had
at your disposal. And I think with so many new
players on both sides of the ball, I think this
feels like the first time that that exploration of who
really are we? We think we know who we are,
but who really are we? And I think they've had
(41:35):
to learn that the hard way and do so without
their most important piece. But I'm really eager to see
if they can apply what happened down the stretch against
New England to another opponent, because if it does, I
do think there is an opportunity for them to kind
of stabilize their season and go from there.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
It does feel like an inflection point of sorts. I
don't want to ask you for a score or a
win loss prediction. But what do you think you'll see,
like to kind of predict what you think it looks
like on Sunday for the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Yeah, I think I would imagine coming out of the buy,
we will find enough ways to get some more production
out of your marquee players. So I think we'll see
an influx in production for Tyreek and Jalen specifically. I
would love to continue to see a run focused group,
especially with Tyler. We know he has a background of
being able to run the football himself. They really haven't
(42:27):
done much in that and I understand it's a short
turnaround and you're dealing with your third quarterback in as
many weeks, So is that something they took advantage of
on the bye week. I'm really looking to see what
layers did you add, and I think they will have some.
I think they should have some, and if they do,
I'm really excited to see what that can look like
for Miami. But that's kind of my expectation is what
(42:48):
show me what the bye week had in store in
this game against the Colts.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
Locked on Dolphins podcast, Locked on NFL Scouting, author of
Touchdown Miami substat Go read his work there and of
course draft lead for the thirty third team. Kyle, great
stuff as always, my friend. You can find him on
Twitter at Grinding the Tape. Appreciate your time today and
enjoy the weekend, my friend.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Thanks Forravis, and away he goes.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Feeling silly, feeling good on this Friday. Here for the
Draft Time podcast, looking forward to what really the first
game I've been excited about in quite a while, so
I think that has put the pep in my step.
Hopefully it's a big Dolphins whin. We come back next
week and have some really fun news to share and
exciting times ahead for the Miami Dolphins. Hopefully there's all
of that to me on the line. Let's go get it.
(43:32):
We'll talk to you on Sunday after the game. In
the meantime, you all please be sure to subscribe, rate,
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(43:53):
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