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Hosts Bart Scott and Dan Graca review the team's trip to London in Week 5, talk about what's next for the Jets after the bye week and check in with WR Jamison Crowder.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's time for Inside the Jets presented by e Y
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Dan Grassa and welcome into another edition of Inside the
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(00:24):
Dan Grossa, joined as always by my partner, former Jet
linebacker Bart Scott. Bart. How are we doing? Kuda Mattada
could be better, but they definitely could be worse. Definitely.
As always, we know things didn't go according to plan
for the Jets yesterday in London. Flew across the Atlantic
and came home a loser to the Atlanta Falcons and

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Bart unfortunately, some of the problems that plagued them on
Sunday in London were really some of the same issues
that have really bit them earlier in the season. And
some of those losses slow starts by the offense really
digging the team too much of a hole and then
the depth said too much to crawl out from in
the second half. Yeah, and also you talked about the
first drive or one of the first drive. You talk

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about penalties extending drives for the opposing offense and understanding
that you have to understand what the what the assignment
is and exsignment. The assignment yesterday from a defensive standpoint
was making sure that you took away Pits, make sure
that you take away Patterson, who can hurt you in
so many different ways, and they failed to do that
effectively and allowing them to convert a lot of third downs.

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Mattie Ice kind of shredded them, understanding that he's a
veteran quarterback and he he wasn't gonna hold onto the
football like Ryan Tannehill did the week before. So I
mean for all the defensive linement that we was looking
at their chops understanding they had a stationary target. Understand
that sometimes when you know you don't have a mobile quarterback,
he understands that, and you gotta give your you know,

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tip your hat to Arthur Smith. He did a great
job in devising the game plan which allowed um Matt
Ryan to really kill you death by thousand paper cuts,
getting the ball out of his hands, a lot of
sitting in zones and taking advantage of big place when
they presented themselves. Talk about Pits getting his first touchdown
um and and really go off a nine for one sixteen.
We knew that without really without gauge, and that was

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going to be the mission, and they failed to execute
their game plan. No doubt about an Arthur Smith, ironically enough,
the offensive coordinator for Ryan Tannehill in the Titans the
last couple of years before getting the Falcon's job. You
mentioned Kyle Pitts, he had his breakout game. You know,
the talent is there, right, he's the fourth overall pick
in the draft, the guys of beasts coming out of Florida.
Eventually it was gonna happen. Unfortunately for the Jets, it

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just came against them. And you mentioned Matt Ryan, and
I think you hit him right on the head. You know,
he's a sage veteran quarterback. The guy's been in the
league now for almost fifteen years. He's seen it all,
every look, every defense thrown at him. He knows what
to do. So this defense which harassed Tannehill last week
with the seven sacks, the fourteen quarterback hits, they weren't
asfortunate this week because Matt Ryan didn't give them the

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opportunity to tee off on them like maybe Ryan Tannehill
did the previous week. Well, of course, right, you have
to understand and your personnel understand that. You know, Tannehill
has to hold onto the ball because he doesn't have
the arm talent in the football acumen, and that scheme
isn't built like that, right. You talk about Mattie Ice,
a former m v P in his league, first overall
picked from Boston College. He's a guy that's made a

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career in dropping back and getting rid of the ball.
He's never been mobile, So it's not like this is
a Ben Roethlisberger, somebody who had been a mobile quarterback
that all of a sudden had to try and adjust
to his declining skill set. Matt Ryan still has plenty
of arm, but he's always had plenty of brain. And
you know, he's always been a guy that can think
the game. And he saw you know, zones and things

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that he had seen a million times before, and he
he he exploited it, right, He exploited his matchups in Patterson.
You know, it's having his best season as a pro
because finally, I think Arthur Smith has found a way
to utilize all his skill sets. His skill set as
a running back, his skill set as a slot receiver,
his skill set as a returner, and his skill set
as a gadget guy and all those things were on

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display yesterday and the Jets, you know, just didn't get done.
And you know they have to go back to the
drawing board and figure it out. And from the offensive standpoint,
you have to be a balanced offense. Seventeen times rushing
the ball doesn't even matter how how much the team
is ahead. You still have to be committed to the
run because it sets the table for everything. I thought
that no point that game was out of hand where

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they had to abandon the run, and I felt like
they panicked a little bit and start getting a little
bit too pass happy. And what that does is that
stops the clock and puts that defense right back on
the field. As you talk about in the first quarter,
thirty one snaps to six, right, you know, so you
talk about the disparage, e, the the the dispense. I

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can't even get it out, man, but you know you
talk about the difference. Yeah, Descarben, thank you, thank you
very much. Right, you talk about that between the offense
and the defensive snaps. Eventually that defensive. First thing that
goes when you get tired is your mind and your
ability to communicate and execute, and that's kind of what happens.
You know, you make up a good point, and you,
of course, being a defensive player, you can attest to this.

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There was a lot of talk throughout the week about
the heavy workload that the defense absorbed in the win
over Tennessee. Right, ninety three snaps on the field. Shoot,
if you want to throw in penalties, it was around
a hundred. That was the fourth most snaps of defense
was on the field in the last twenty years in
the National Football League. Some of those guys like C. J. Mosley,
they were on the field for every single snap in
that game. So they were talking all week about, you know,

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do you have the tired legs at all now getting
on the plane and flying overseas to London to play
that game exactly all those things. And then if look
at the time of possession in the first quarter of
that game yesterday, I mean Atlanta had the ball eleven
and a half minutes to three and a half for
the Jets. That adds up over time. So how much
were those guys feeling it, you think on the defensive

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side of the ball, to where when the Jets got
this to within and the fourth quarter, Atlanta then is
able to manufacture a seventy five yard drive, go right
down the field and pretty much put it out of reach.
Of course, it makes a difference, right, you know, of course,
and you talk about, you know, the workload the defense
is is doing every week. You know, you think about
the later games, you know, game fourteen fifteen, you know

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you're gonna feel that, right because it's harder to recoup
because you're putting a lot of miles on on the
tires on the legs of these players. And I thought C. J. Mozy,
who had a tremendous game, looked a little bit tired
and lethargic on some of the blitz is you know,
coming off, he didn't have that same spring in that
pop in his legs, right, And you think about that,
and that's why, even though this is an early by,
it might be just with the doctor order for the

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Jets as their defense needs to recover and recoup and
their offense needs to figure out what their identity and
who they are. Are they run first team? Are they
play action team? Are their horizontal team? Are their vertical team?
And I think you have to tweak the game plan
to the personnel that you have, and you have to
use everybody, right, you have to use all fifty three,
and I think they're gonna have to give some more

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people some opportunities on the offensive side of the ball
to just do what they do well. Right, you have
to find guys and say, hey, he does this well,
let's put in positions to do that and grow their packages.
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(07:06):
in search Official New York Jets. Maybe the most surprising
thing going into that game, as we talked about the
offense a little bit, bart you know, they had their
best game of the season against Tennessee. Zach Wilson had
his best game in the season in that victory over
the Titans. You were expecting to build on that a
little bit. And then you look at the upcoming opponent
in the Falcons. They were last in the NFL and
scoring defense. Right, they had allowed at least thirty two

(07:27):
points a game and three of their four contests leading
up to the game there in London, And that was
maybe the most surprising thing that the offense couldn't build
off what had happened the previous week, couldn't take advantage
of a Falcons unit which had been picked apart pretty
good by their opponents so far this year. And you know,
we hit on a little bit in the beginning, the
inability of this offense to get going early in the games.

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I mean, bart five games into the season, the offense
hasn't scored a point yet in the first quarter. See,
sometimes you gotta understand you can't look at everything from
your perspective, right, So the same way that the Jets
were looking at the Falcons, you gotta understand at the
Elks are looking at you in a certain way. And
what they're what they saw when they put on the
Tennessee film is Yes, this young kid has an electric arm, right,
he has tremendous arm talent. But a lot of those

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plays were not scripted plays. So how do we stop
him from having the explosive plays and make him beat
us left handed? Or make him beat us doing what
he's not really really been shown that he can do
on a consistent basis, And that's been an accurate quarterback,
that's throwing the ball on target, that's throwing the ball
short and and having these eight to tend play drives

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and that's what they forced him to do, and and
Zac came up short with that. And I think he'll
be the first one to tell you that he has
to be more accurate. And I think that all starts
with his fundamentals and making sure that whenever he leaves
unleashes a football or he releases a football, that he's
making sure that his mechanics are intact, because when things
get hot and you get tired, and you know, you
have to always have your fundamentals. And I know we

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always laugh and we make fun of like Jameis Winson
with his pregame, you know, exercise with the tile, and
we laugh at Doak with the little Dac dance more
this hips up. But you know, those are the things
when you talk about beating it into your memory, muscle memory.
It takes ten thousand hours for something to become routine
or something to become you know, second nature without you
thinking about it. And I think that's really what Zach

(09:13):
is going to have to focus on, It needs to
focus on in his time office, making sure that when
he releases the football, unless there's no other option, he
releases that football and making sure that he's balanced and
that he's throwing to his target and it's not somebody's
side arm throwing off schedule. Like I said all the time,
the worst thing and in best thing that ever happened
to the NFL in the last couple of years is

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Patrick Mahomes, right, And you're starting to see he's starting
too and and starting to go the wrong way for
him too, because we talked about, you know, throwing the
ball off platform all schedule, side arm, this arm underarmed,
over armed, right, But at the end of the day,
who's the guy that's been the most consistent in his league.
It's Tom Brady, and Tom Brady beats the fundamentals right,
And you have to work the fundamentals because at the

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end of the day, the fundamentals is what you lean
on in all things break down around you. Is making
sure that you can order yet you can be um
fundamentally sound in the midst of chaos. That inside of
the hurricane is where it's the most safest. And when
you do that, in your arm and your shoulders are
aligning to your target, you will be more accurate. And
when you're more accurate, you're putting the balls and some

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of the best athletes hands in space and let them
do the work right. You don't have to put it
all on yourself. So if I'm Zach Wilson, I'm going
back to the fundamentals. I'm making sure that when I
released the football is from the proper position, just like
in the NBA. Tim Duncan did it so well for
so many years. He was the big fundamental when it
came to the NBA side of things. You're right, speaking
of the Jet quarterback. Here's Zack Wilson caught up after

(10:40):
the game with Bobo Shusan. Zach, I guess let's start
from the beginning. Um, the slow starts, the inability to
get some of that momentum going that you seem to
find a way to get going in the second half,
but not being able to score points in the first half.
What do you think has to happen for this offense
to flip the switch early so you're not constantly trying
to put from behind. Yeah, I don't know, you know,

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And that's what we're That's what we're trying to figure
out as a team, is how we can get started early.
You know, I gotta play better from the beginning. You know,
I'm sure everyone's thinking the same thing, and so going
into this bye week, that's the focus. You know, how
can we start fast? This league is too hard to
It's always be coming from behind. So um, you know,
we gotta figure something out there. Is the game moving
fast for you? I mean you feel like at some
point it's gonna get a lot slower than it is

(11:24):
right now. Doesn't even slow down during the game, Yeah,
I mean, of course, of course. You know the more
I'm playing that, you know, the slower I feel like
the game is getting. You know, it's gonna keep getting
slower as I get older and and keep getting reps.
But you know, I wouldn't say it's uh, um, you
know the reason why we're having these you know struggles
early in the game. You know, I feel like it's
it's a confidence thing team wide. You know, I gotta

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come out and throw that thing and um, just get
us going from the beginning. You know, we can't have
those three and out drives to start the game. It's
it's you know, demoralizing, and it kills our tempo and energy.
You know, you mentioned the bye week by week can
be about self scouting. What do you think you're gonna
be able to work on me, gonna learn about yourself
in this offense as now you've got a couple of
weeks to get ready for your next one. Yeah, really,

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the same thing we've done every single week. You know,
how can we just get better from the tape, keep
working on those things in practice, and then of course
starting faster. You know, we gotta get some points out
from the beginning and um, you know that's that's something
we've got to figure out, all right, Zack, safe trip hop.
Thank you for joining us. We appreciate it. Thank you. Alright.
So that's Zach Wilson here, and you're listening to Inside

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And when you look at his offense bart as a
whole here, I mean, obviously it starts with the quarterback.
I mean, he's the ring leader. Everything runs through him.
Yesterday he got another weapon back in Alijah More And
that's a guy who you know, through five games, really
hasn't lived up to the production level that maybe we
were all kind of anticipating all throughout the spring and

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the summertime. I mean, this guy was advertised as being
one of the most electric players on this roster, yet
he still really hasn't quite felt found his niche yet
through five games in his rookie season. I mean, that's
the whole other discussion, right because we saw this across
town with the Giants and uh Darius Tony, who had
a breakout game yesterday, but he was in his natural position.

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When we talked about Alijah More and everything that he
did in college, it was from the slot, and you know,
they're trying to, you know, make him an outside receiver.
I think he operates better in the slot, and I
understand that Jamison Crowder is there, but it's still an
opportunity to put him in position to be successful. He's
a guy that should be used, in my opinion, much
like Ryandale Moore out there in Arizona, because that's the

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type of player he is. He's a smaller guy. You
put him in the slot, guys can't put their hands
on him. But if it's tremendous speed, that allows him
to run by people. And when you're in the slot,
also it allows you go against the nickel, which is
usually nickels are nickels because they're not good enough to
be corners all the time, right, And it's a unique
skill set to be able to operate in the phone
book when you really can't use your physicality to jam people.

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So I think, you know, when you know they go
in their assess and a self scout. I think maybe
given Alijah more an opportunity to be in the inside
would be a more comfortable space for him, which allows
you to get him the ball in space, which allows
him to use his yak or his after catch you
know ability, And maybe, just maybe we can see a
guy like Mems who continues to have a tremendous you

(14:13):
know yards per catch. You know, we talk about the
twenty seven yard reception, but also just being a much
bigger um um target. You look at what's going on
around the league. You see guys like Jamar Chase, right,
all these guys are making plays on the outside, outside
the numbers, and they're covered. But what's what you can't
coach and what you can't teach its size and speed.

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And a guy like Mims has that size and speed
that I believe you can take advantage outside the numbers
because you look at some of those balls, even one
of the balls that were thrown to more on the
sideline that was incomplete. If a guy six to six three,
he can go up and get that and still have
the wherewerfall to keep his feet in bounds. Right. We
watched the Buffalo Bills last night and knocks his covered
and he's just a tight end and slow tight end, right,

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and you're saying, well, he's covered, Well not really, he's
six five So his catch rate is it it so much
better than a guy has defended him? So it's pretty
much like posting guys up. So you know, the Jets
have a lot of work to do um because they
have to reimagine maybe what they were doing isn't getting
getting you know, isn't effective when you talk about getting
off to a fast start, maybe running the ball a

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little bit more and giving the lives and more. Who's
a dynamic playmaker the opportunity to make those plays from
the slap position can open his offense up. And now
they get a chance to take a step back and
reflect a little bit with the bye week upon us,
and you know, maybe it's a little bit earlier than
than we're accustomed to seeing here five weeks in, but
it does have I think it's positive is because when
the Jets returned from a bye, defense could be getting

(15:37):
a little bit healthier, right, I mean, Jared Davis is
gonna return in all likelihood by the end of the month.
Marcus May should also return to help out that defense.
Those are two guys who were starters at the beginning
of the season for this group that you know, figures
to join a unit that is already flash some young
potential with some of the other guys that are getting
some reps here in their absence, so maybe things rounding
it to form a little bit more for them once

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they return from that week off. That's a that's that's
that that's a very valid point, right, And you talk
about you know, the guys coming in continuing that that
chemistry and and kind of picking up where they left off.
And you talked about with with with Quentin and what
he's been able to do, and now you put Davis there,
it gives you a much better you know, you know,
linebacker corps from an experience standpoint, you know, and you

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put David's out there, and you let Quinn stay out there,
and now you have some guys that you can do
some more unique blitzing packages with and you know, it's
not always c J kind of rounding off on the
blitz or sink front. You can allow CJ to kind
of stand in the middle because I think that he's
so much more effective. You know, he is a good blitzer.
He's a guy that's tremendous when you talk about the
concepts of route combinations right, and I don't think Quintin

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is quite there yet understanding formations and route combinations so
that you know all those underneath throws that were that
were given two pitts and that was given to uh
To to Patterson. You know, guy like c J can
pick some of those balls off. We've seen it, you
know in his debut when he came here two years
ago and buff Buff flow with the pick six. So
you know, he's a guy that understands. And it takes

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a unique quarterback to understand when you're being me lyneback,
when you understand when you're being high load. And that's
what happened a lot yesterday. Young guys. Are we call it,
you know, biting taking the cheese, you know that little
cheese they put in front of you and you step
up and they throw the ball behind you. When we
come back here on Inside the Jets will be joined
by veteran Jets Wide receiver Jamison Crowder. Number eighty two
stops by right here and Inside the Jets presented by

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E Why Building a Better Working World? All right, welcome
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to be joined today by a third year Jet Wide receiver.
It's Jamison Crowder, who's nice enough to give us some
time here on the bye week. Jamison, Dan and Bart,
thanks for joining us today. My friend, how are you

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doing good? Now? You're talking about playing in London yesterday?
I'm sure I'm assuming you guys just got back. You know,
it's one of two things that usually happens in London.
Usually you get off to a fast starter, you get
off to a slow start. Seemed like yesterday you guys
just could get started getting a rhythm, especially early in
the first quarter. You talked about having six offensive snaps.
You know, any understanding about why you guys couldn't get

(18:08):
in the rhythm, how you couldn't get your first fifteam going. Um,
I mean, honestly, I don't know, man, you know, it's
just been something that that we've been that we've been
uh challenged with this this this year. Man, is getting
out to a fast start. You know, that's definitely something
that we had to address and address quickly. Um you
know what I'm saying, if you want to have some

(18:28):
sets going forward. Um, you know, we got this bye week,
so that definitely a point of emphasis that we're gonna
you know, look at is getting a faster start in
the first half yesterday. I just thought that, you know,
got to a slow start start obviously, and just couldn't
get into a rhythm. Um the defense out there for
a long time on the field, and you know we

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didn't we did. We definitely didn't have those guys out
you know by having quick three ounce A lot of
it was new yesterday, of course, playing in New City,
New Country, new stadium, all those things. Operationwise, routine. Did
everything feel similar as if it would if you were
playing a game back here in the States. Uh, No,
I didn't feel the same. It was definitely different. Um.

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You know, there's a few things that I do as
far as routine, WI was I wasn't able to do.
But um, you know, I wasn't excuse that. I felt.
I actually felt pretty good going in to the game yesterday. Um,
like I said, Man, it was just that slow start
and I thought, you know, a second half and we
came out, Um you know, Tico had had had a
huge return and help set up you know, the offense
for the first touchdown right there, um, right in the

(19:30):
first half, and then we had a couple of you know,
possession where we um, you know, couldn't get anything going.
But I think you know it towards in the game
and it was ever to getting to a rythm and
uh you know, put up some points. But um, I
don't think that. Um you know obviously you know, just
playing a different country and everything. Yeah, it had an
effect a little bit, but uh me personally, I felt good,

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yestad the game. What was lost? So I was just
gonna say, just to follow up, and you're saying some
things are a little bit different, like like what was
different than stood out to you the most you think, Jamison, Well,
I mean definitely the time the time change. I mean,
you know it's a little bit earlier or your body
just you know, feels like he's earlier. And I'm an
early morning person, so I really, you know, I didn't
really feel, you know, affected by that much, but I

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think some guys did. Um, And just you know, just
a few things I like to do, man, I have
a few people out that I like to see prior
to the game and get my body and stuff going.
And you know, being that we got that, we went
there a day early, I wasn't able to do that.
So um, you know, just in my mind, you know,
just some of the things that I normally do, I
wasn't able to do. But but I was good though.

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You know, when you look across the league, it's a
lot of young rookie quarterbacks starting for the first time,
and all of them are kind of having similar problems,
right you know, you think about justin fields, you think
about Mac and Cheese, who's probably doing the best because
you know he's not asked to do much, you know,
But when you look at most quarterbacks rather as Lawrence,
you know, you see some inconsistencies. You see like maybe

(20:57):
skipping the ball and think of that sort how hard
is it, you know, for you as a veteran to
try and establish a rhythm and that non verbal communication
that you need when you have a not only just
a quarterback, but just a young quarterback to establish where
he can expect you to be and where he needs
to throw the ball for every type of receiver, because
I'm assuming that every receiver likes their ball a little

(21:19):
differently placed that whether it's eye level, whether it's midsection,
so I can continue to run. How do you continue
or how do you start to develop that type of chemistry?
You know, yesterday you had a nice little bubble scream
kind of skipped the ball. Is it maybe just you
see a lot of these young quarterbacks, and I'm just
talking about Zack, I'm just talking about in general, your
observation in the league, like these young quarterbacks aren't really

(21:42):
sticking to their fundamentals because they're doing the big plays,
the splashy plays, but the routine plays. It seems like
all these guys are struggling with it. Yeah, I mean
I think, um, you know obviously that that's I just
think that, uh, you know, I think with society now,
they kind of it kind of it doesn't allow young
quarterbacks to develop. You know, we all know that this

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is a tough league. You know, it's very ready that
you have guys just come in and make an instant
you know, impact on the team or like an instant
you know, uh, organization change and player just an instant
like that. Like every guy has to develop in the
quarterback position. That's obviously one of the toughest, if not
detailed position, you know, to go out there and and
and and being control of on Sunday you got all

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the plays, no all the routes, no protection, this and that,
and um you know, I think that sometimes you know,
a lot of people expect for young quarterbacks to come
in and just you know, be that guy, and they
don't allow for God to develop. But you know that's
any player you got to you gotta got developed. You
have to, um, you know, take what the defense gives you.
You know, make sure that you can you know, make

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those you know, mid range meter you know, uh, you know,
short throws and then when the when, when the big
play comes, take advantage of it. And um, I just
think that you know, uh, you know, the media and
somebody that they don't give God it's time to developing.
And that's just something that you have to go through.
You know, you have to develop. Guys have to develop.
You have to put in the time after practice and

(23:07):
you have to get better now. Less it's more, right,
I always say less it's more, especially when you have young,
you know, quarterbacks. But it seems like, you know, Zack
Wilson's been asked to do a little bit more than
most of these guys, you know, because you look at
the rushing numbers right seven, you know, seventeen attempts, Like,
I know you're a receiver, but would you even invite,
you know, the attempt to run the ball a little

(23:27):
bit more to try and establish a rhythm so that
when you do do that play action or you're try
and get him behind the linebackers in front of the safeties,
that real estate is a little bit more open because
it seems like you guys are stabbish in the past
before you established a run, you know, would you be
on board with that or do you you know, maybe
see that you've seen a lot of football, right, You've
been around the league at this time. Was this like
your April nine year you know? I mean, so you've

(23:48):
seen it work both ways rather on the teams that
you've been on or the teams that you face. Yeah,
I mean, yeah, I mean I think you know, if
you want to have succession, it's lead you have a
better run the football. Um. I just think, you know,
for example, for us today, I just thought that we've
got in the whole and you know, I feel like,
you know, a lot of fans and stuff, they want

(24:09):
us to run the ball, run the ball, but you know,
we just kind of needed some some splash players kind
of get back in the game. Um, yesterday. But uh,
but but I agree with you though. You know, if
you want to have some have success as an offensive unit,
you have to be able to you know, mixing that
run with that pass um because a lot of times,
you know, the past game is predicated off the run.
So uh, and that's one thing that we have to

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you know, uh address going forward and be better at
is getting the run game going early, keeping the defense
on their toes. For sure. We're talking with Jamison Crowter.
I'm curious, you know, you missed those three weeks at
the beginning of the season. You had the growing injury,
you had the COVID, so that kept you off the
field and away from getting those practice reps with Zach.
And I'm curious, Jamison, timing wise, rhythm wise, is that

(24:51):
all the way back between you two or is that
still working its way back into where you'd like it
to be here in mid season four? Well, I mean
I feel like, I mean me personally, I feel like
I'm good. I feel like I think the Zach thinks
I'm in a good place. Um. You know, obviously we
had some we made some big connections, um in the
Tennessee game, and like you know, yesterday, you know, it

(25:11):
was just tough. I thought, you know, for everybody to
kind of get into a rhythm and um, you know,
that's just that was just the flavor of the day yesterday.
But I think, you know, it's not too hard for
me to get into a rhythm or get a connection
with a quarterback just because of the routes that I run,
you know, the routes that I'm asked to run and
stuff like, they don't run a lot of deep routes,
so a lot of my routes are short an immediate routes. Um,

(25:34):
you know obviously you know, you know, um, y'all, like
you know, for for a ball places to be here there,
But UM, a lot of times it's not it's not
hard to find a guy like me in the middle
of field or you know, on a on that quick
out or a quick slant or whatever. So I feel
like our our time and is there. We just got
to connect more going forward, Jamison ain't type. We're gonna

(25:54):
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WHY Building a Better Working World. The bye week has
arrived just five weeks into the season, Jamison, maybe a
little bit sooner than the Jets are accustomed to over

(26:14):
the last couple of years. How about for somebody like
yourself who missed the first few games, do you feel
like you need a bye week? You're ready for the
bye week or would you like to just keep this
thing going? Well, I mean personally, I I definitely don't
need a bye week. You know that was just my
second game back yesterday. Um, so you know I'm I
definitely need some time to keep you know, keep going.
But you know I'll take the body right now. You know,

(26:37):
I know some guys needed um and it's and it's
gonna be much appreciated. It's kind of kind of you know,
reflecting and evaluate, you know, things that we need to
work on, and you know, going forward, we know it's
gonna be a grind. So um me personally, you know,
I I need some time to be out there on
the field. But you know, the bye week is here
and it is what it is. I know that once
it's bye week is over, it's gonna be a grind.

(26:57):
So it is what it is. Yeah, you you really
can't control when you get your bye week. You you
you get it, you know early, you get it late.
It is what it is. You just make the best
out of it and making the best of this maybe
for some of these young players and some of these
guys that are banged up a little bit to try
and get healthy. You're one of those guys as Mackay Beckton.
I don't know how close he is to returning, but
he should have an instant impact and will let you

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guys come back and try and make a mini run.
You know, but when you talk about you know how
different players attack their bye week. You know you've being
a veteran player, you know what you need to do
for your body to kind of get in shape. You
know a lot of guys who haven't started, has been injured,
may not be in a peak condition that they need
to be in. You know, what would you what do
you say to like your young receivers like Elijah More,
some of the young guys about how they should handle

(27:40):
their bye week because you can go too hard. You know,
I remember Howard Green, you know, one year Rex said hey, man,
I need you to come back, you know, and and
lose some weight. This dude came back twelve pounds heavy.
We had to cut them because like, come on, dude,
this is like a slap in the faith. How do
you gain twelve pounds in a week. But you know
that can happen for guys who you know, they go
on vacation. Now with COVID, maybe guys won't be order
the Bahamas laying out. But what would you say to

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some of these young guys about being able to take
care of business and coming back and understand what this
physical grind is all about, because now you you won't
have a break and it's gonna be a much longer
season than their college days. You know, I mean, um,
you know, just just to the young guys, man, just
understanding the position we're in right now. We're not a
you know five and old team or three and two team.

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We're wanting four, you know, so we're not a team
to by no means, do guys need taking the vacation?
Oh no, you know you kind of you know, go somewhere. Um,
you know, just kind of let your mind, um, you know,
relax and kind of get things out of football. But um,
you know, for us to to to be a better team,
come out this bye week, we have to really lock

(28:42):
in on the things that we need to work on
going forward, whether it's from an individual standpoint or from
a team standpoint. So um, that's why I tell you,
you know, some some of the younger guys just you know,
understand that, Yeah we got a bye week, but look,
just take this time to really reflect, reflect on how
you can become, you know, be a better player, coming
back to have this team, um, you know, be better
getting out of his body. Wee can going forward with

(29:03):
the season. A lot of the still a lot of
season left. Obviously now with the extra game, you still
have twelve more to play, and you know you use
the word reflect there And I heard Corey Davis after
the game yesterday, saying we're better than a one in
four football team. When you take stock of where this
team is small sample size, just the five games, how
would you assess where this club is out now and
where they're gonna be moving forward after the bike Well,

(29:25):
I'm not just saying right now, we just you know,
a team like we. I feel like we have the
talent across the board, especially on the offensive side of
the ball, have defense side of the ball, but officially, man,
we have the talent, and um, we just gotta you know,
put put it together. That's what That's what I see,
and um that's what I've seen, you know, even the
time the three games I was out. We have the
guys that can make plays. We have the running backs. Um,

(29:47):
you know what I'm saying that. You know, he's young,
he's still learning, but he still can make you know,
make the plays. And we gotta put it out together.
You know, were sitting back and watch FM and um,
you know you watch it. You just see you know
a play here or mrssignment there. You know, certain plays
or or that close from being you know, big plays.
And I think that's something that a lot of fans
and stuff don't get to see. They get to see

(30:07):
the TV copy, but you know, as players, we get
to see the film copy, and you see just some
of the small details that that we're that we're not
locked in on. You know, some of the things that
we missed where certain plays can be big plays in
the game that can help, you know, contribute to a win. Um.
So that's you know, to this point, that's what I've seen.
And like I said, man, taking this by week and
really locking in and reflecting it and and seeing those

(30:31):
small details that we're missing, just trying to clean those
up on forward. So you know, those big plays when
they when when when they present themselves, we take full
advantage of them, just from the outside of looking in.
And you know, I saw that you guys trying to
manufacture some of those explosive plays, but this time trying
to make sure that you secure the edge because now
you know the defensive vents aren't flattening down and you know,

(30:51):
allowing Zack to get outside. So I saw you guys
cutting down the edge, make sure that you give some
attention to the deepest event and lets some of these
plays mature down the field. But you know the problem
that you or not. The problem or the question that
I that I posed and that I'm trying to figure
out is what is this team? Right? Because when you
talk about, you know, rookie quarterbacks, you have to have
an identity. And like I took Joe Flacco to to

(31:13):
the n f C Championship his rookie year, took Mark
Sanchez to the NFC Championship his rookie year. But we
had an identity, right. We were grounding pound and listen.
That's how we're gonna win, not allowing Mark to kind of,
you know, expose itself or throw the ball, you know,
or or or lose the game for us. I guess
that what I want to ask you, have you guys
established or found your identity? If if you have, what

(31:35):
is it? Yeah? Well I think you know, we we're
still trying to find it. Man obviously wanted to get
the run game going. And like I said yesterday, Man
was just an example of things you can't do in
this league if you want to be successful and ask
you know, D steps and the whole um, you know,
D seven, the whole you kind of get away from,
you know, what you want to do, what you tend
to do so I think obviously, man, the run game

(31:57):
is is what our offense is but off of and
we have to get that going going forward if you
want to have any success, how about this offense? The scheme,
it's a new system, you know, the finer points of it.
Do you feel like it's when you say it's a
detail here, a detail there. Do you think any of
that is related to the scheme and all Jamison? Do
you think you guys are you know, locking step with

(32:18):
the West Coast system now? Well, I mean I feel like,
you know, the West Coast Man it was system I
played in before. Um, like I said, the details here
there the things that we see on film, you know,
or or just you know, individually related you know, like
I said, and this and it's all of us as
a unit. You know, it's you know, one play the
receivers are doing they need to do in the lines,

(32:39):
or the receivers aren't doing we need to do with
being our details and the line is. So it's just
one of those things that we have to argue on
the same page. And like I said, going forward, I
think we can do that. We get on the same page,
you can have you know, success going forward. Now. You
know sometimes, you know, when you stop to the new system,
sometimes you kind of put too much in at one time.
Do you think maybe just doing less it's more in

(33:01):
this instance, and let allow you guys to just get
great at one thing and kind of you know, we
heard Solid say before it's okay to win ugly. You know,
sometimes winning ugly can be only throwing the ball twenty
times and just kind of being still being in the game.
So when you guys established a rhythm, you guys set
up some plays and stuff early in the first you know,
half with some of these formations that you'll be able
to exploit the team when you give them the same

(33:23):
duplicate look in the second half, and you think, maybe
less it's more in this instance. As you know, you
you've been in the West Coast system, but you guys
have so many young guys that you're depended on that
you know, they just don't have the experience, they understand
situational football. They're still trying to figure out what this
league is all about. Right now. Yeah, you know what,
and I mean, honestly, I don't feel like we have

(33:44):
a lot of volume, you know what I'm saying In
the in the in the office. I feel like everything
is is um. You know, it's easy to grasp uh.
And it's just you know, it's just one of those
things of like you said, having those young guys, they
have to you know, get that understanding and get that experience.
And i've that's gonna come, you know, the more that
they play ball. But in my opinion, I don't think
that we have, you know, too much UM. I wouldn't

(34:07):
say that, you know, there's a lot for the guys
that they you know, can't can't pick up UM. I
just think that you know, some of the some of
the small things that they don't understand, it's gonna come
with experience. And it's just one of those things that
that we all as players have had to you know,
deal with, you know, had to go through. UM. But
I don't I don't. I don't think that the system

(34:27):
is too much for for for the Gospel Bear. Thanks
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(34:47):
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You know, as we jump in here and look at
week five around the natural a Football League, I want
to get your opinion, because obviously the kicker holds a
special place on a football team. You know, some people

(35:07):
consider them through players, others don't, as a guy who
went to war with them for so many years. Some
better than others. Some help you win games, some not
so much. When you saw all the drummond and all
the dramatics involving the kickers at the end of some
of these games yesterday, as a former player, does that
make you feel I men, listen a lot of times

(35:27):
we say kickers have feelings to our their people too,
not when they missed as many extra points and bunnies
as they missed yesterday. I mean, can anybody make a
field goal in the in the Bengals in the Green
Bay Packers game? You talk about like five minutes or
four minths field goals within the last two minutes and
fourteen seconds. It was ridiculous and it's amazing, and it's
a shame that sometimes it comes down to those those players,

(35:50):
but it does. And you know, I've always been fortunate enough.
You know, I played with Matt Stover, who at the
time was the most accurate kicker in NFL history, and
think Banner Jack took it and now Justin Tucker is.
But I've been fortunate enough that way. It's like one
of those things that their players if they're good for
you and you're you got a good one, but man,
if you if you have a bad one, man you
you lose some heartbreaks. You know. You talk about you know,

(36:12):
the Detroit lines, and you know, I mean they find
creative ways to lose. I mean you talk about a
guy breaking an NFL record, and Tucker with sixty six
yard field goal and then with thirty seven seconds and
left you lose to a fifty plus field goal. It's
like one of those things like you know, those guys
love their kicker, but you know the other the other team,

(36:32):
you know, hates kickers because you talk about so many
miss extra points. You talk about twelve miss extra points
or miss field goals yesterday, which was tied for the
league since the NFL the inception. But also, you know,
you talk about, you know, just how many heartbreakers and
games usually come down to it, and you know, you
talk about just crazy, right every sense the NFL has
moved back the extra point, it's not so easy, and

(36:55):
they only moved it back a couple of yards. You
would think that these kickers would be more accurate, you know,
But no, what excitement that the NFL was added to
the NFL, because now that that used to be a gimme, right,
you go get your popcorn, you go to refrigerator because
you're like, all right, the extra point to be good.
I'll come back. But now not so fast, right, you
talked about any in the Chart game, you know, they
were going for it. It It had to go for the

(37:15):
win and had to try and get points because the
kicker had missed an extra point. So, I mean, I
think it had some excitement to the game, but I
still don't consider kickers people. The thing that was a
couple of things with those kicks yesterday that it was
amazed me. Number one in that Cincinnati game, like you said,
the one that actually hit the flag on top of
one of the uprights. That was amazing that you can't
do that if you tried, but the fact that he

(37:36):
got it to hit one of the flags was incredible.
And the one in Minnesota, the fact that he wins
the game on a fifty four yard or earlier in
the quarter he came up short from forty nine. He
didn't have enough lake from forty nine, and yet he
clears the uprights from fifty four to win it, even
though it was indoors. Still an incredible kick, nonetheless, but hey,
that's what games could come down to and for a

(37:58):
couple of teams, and so yesterday it did. Bills didn't
have that problem last night though in Kansas City. And
I don't think I'm really surprised the Buffalogos and Darrah
Hound and wins that game yesterday. I think we have
to take a step back to your bart And it's
only five weeks into the season, but I think the
Bills have established themselves. Is the class of the a
f C right now? One of them? I don't. I

(38:18):
don't know if they're the class, but you know, one
thing is imp apparent. Yeah, Yeah, the one thing that's
apparent is that you know, the Kanda City Chiefs are
in trouble and not saying that I want to count
them out. I know for the first time and three
years they're not the favorite to win the championship. They
dropped down the three because people figure that maybe my
Homes will figure it out. But you know you talked
about losing Sammy Watkins and what that means. They go

(38:40):
out and sign job Josh Gordon to try and find
somebody opposite Arek Hill and Kelsey, you know, to be
able to make defenses play your honest and you know
the time of Bay Buccaneers gave the recipe play cover
to rush. Don't allow Patrick Mahomes to kill you with
these five yard bombs that you know Tarik Hill had
the week before with the Philadelphia Eagles, and you'll make

(39:01):
that defense work. Don't allow that defense to be able
to be one dimensional because they have a two score
lead because they have Patrick Mahomes and that defense is
proved to be poorts. And you talk about the NFL
is about the battle with attrition. Frank Clark just coming back.
He has some off the field legal issues with the
gun charges. No Chris Jones yesterday, So you talk about
when you think about the kN C, the Chiefs, you

(39:21):
think about you know impact player, you know three impact players,
and you know with the battle of attrition, if you
lose one of them, it throws off the effectiveness of
that entire defense. And you see a guy like Source
and gets targeted and gets exposed because you don't have
a guy like Chris Jones pushing the pocket right, you
don't have a guy like Honey Badger that's able to
cover up for a lot of the you know, mistakes

(39:43):
by behind them. And you see young linebacker corps. So
I think they're in trouble. But you know, you look
at the Chargers, I think the Chargers are right there
with Jesse as an electric quarterback as Josh Allen. Right now,
you can say Josh Allen's an m VP candidate, but
you definitely gotta say so is Justin Herbert. And they
both affect the game the same away with their legs,
their arms. But I think when you look at for me,

(40:03):
when I look at the Chargers, I see a more dominant,
better offensive line because you what you didn't hear is
a lot of a lot of praise and a lot
of disruption from Miles Garrett. That's the second time that Slater,
Rashaan Slater has shut down a guy that's supposed to
be the next coming to lt or Derrick Thomas shut
down Chase Young early in the in the year, and
you know, he shuts down a guy to have five

(40:25):
sacks before and a half sacks a week before, and
nobody's saying nothing. I know, rookies or offensive lineman really
don't get offensive player of the year. Everything's gonna go
to Chase. Um to um um. Now, who's who's Burrows guy?
I always said this man, the guy, Chase, Mr Chase,
Everything's gonna go to him for a Rookie of the Year.
But man, I think right now, to me, Slater would

(40:48):
be my Offensive Player of the Year because the fact
that we aren't talking about him says everything. Absolutely No.
He's been a wonderful pick for them here. And look,
I mean you have to have that foundation if you
want to have a young quarterback and you want him
to be successful. I mean, look, that's why the Jets
went out and got McKay Beckton last year. He's gonna
be back here certainly to be that blindside protector for
your young franchise QB and it's worked out great there

(41:10):
with the Chargers, and you know what it shows to me?
Also the Cleveland goes out there and they lose a shootout.
I think it's important in the way bark because that
offense has been struggling a little bit. You know, Baker's
got an issue with the left shoulder, non throwing. But still,
can I stop you right there, because this is what
happens is when somebody doesn't live up the expectations, they
try and find excuses, right, And to tell me that

(41:33):
Baker Mayfield has a left shoulder injury to me means
absolutely nothing. I mean it's a non throwing shoulder. Guess what,
I got a torn labor. Most players have torn labors.
You know, it's not the biggest deal, especially when it's
not something that you use because it's your left shoulder.
He's not throwing the football with his left shoulder right,
and I think that they're building an excuse. The problem

(41:54):
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You know, it's funny you look at the a f
C East right now where it is, and look, the
Jets are one in four Buffalo there the class of

(42:16):
the division right now. Okay, that goes without saying Miami
is struggling. They're still trying to find their way. They're
banged up beyond belief. New England Okay, they pulled that
one out yesterday in Houston, but you know they're far
from the juggernaut that they used to be here for
looking at no they no. But the thing is, you know,
looking ahead here with the Jets, at least, for example,
with the schedule, and they got that one against New

(42:36):
England up in Foxboro coming out of the bike, there's
some opportunities to make some noise here a little bit
against some opponents that maybe we thought were a little
bit more challenging and daunting when the schedule came out.
Now we've seen them playing. You think that's a winnable game. Well,
that's why yesterday we lost was so damaging, because that
was an opportunity to get a win when the football
guys give you a favor when you talk about their

(42:57):
two top receivers not being there and going against the
defense that hadn't shown that they were dominant, and where
you talk about, okay, well we got the Patriots, but
the Patriots doesn't look like they're the Patriots of old
and they're not right. That defense doesn't scare anybody. And
Matt Jones has been effective, but he hasn't pushed the
ball down the field, so you don't worry about him.
But then now you get opponent that you thought that, hey,

(43:18):
maybe we have the advantage of in the Cincinnati Bengals,
who looked tremendous. Right, So that's why you can't like
play the games on paper. And that's gonna be a
much tougher matchup than people anticipated when the schedules came out.
Because you talked about Joe Burrow. He's proven that he
is a franchise quarterback. There's no questions about that. And
you talked about the a f C North. You know,
right now, I would say Lamar Jackson is the best

(43:40):
quarterback in that division, but Joe Burrow is number two.
So everything in this league is earned, and the Jets
are gonna have to earn the right to get opportunities
to win games. And they're gonna have to play better
and more consistent and more complete games. They're gonna have
to play complimentary football, no doubt about it. You know,
one thing we should mentioned to Arizona, they're the last
of the young beaten's. They gotta win yesterday against San Francisco.
Ray Lance made his first NFL start in that game here.

(44:03):
So all the first rounders have now gotten the start
of their belts in the National Football League. And you know,
we heard Jamison talk about it a little while ago
too when we had the mind's like, that's the way
of the world now, right, if you're a rookie quarterback,
especially if you're a first rounder, you are going to
be on the field sooner rather than later at some point. Yeah,
I mean, it's the gift and the curse, right, So

(44:23):
many expectations. Quarterbacks are coming more prepared to to to
to be effective through the passing game because in the
college game, all you do is throw the football. That's
why I think right now, the right receiver is the
the best position. When you talk about translating to the pros.
It used to be the running game because college used
to run the football all time, so running backs come
in easy to play. But you know when you talk about,

(44:44):
you know these young quarterbacks, and the problem is, every
once in a while, you get a guy like Justin
Herbert who looks tremendous his rookie year, guy like Joe
Burrow that comes in and it looks like he's ready
day one, And it's unfair to the guys that may
need some more time to develop, because I think it's
based on what you were taught and how you were
trained in college, right, And no, all these guys that

(45:06):
were drafted this year can play, but it's just gonna
take some time. I think it's unfair to believe that
one of these guys are Justin Herbert. I don't think
any of these guys in his league is Justin Herbert
because Justin Herbert is a guy who has started in
college a long time, so when he came here, he
had a lot of experience. A lot of these guys
right now that came out here didn't have an opportunity
to be a starter for a full or four years.

(45:27):
You talked about Mac Jones, didn't start. Trey Lance really
didn't have any opportunities. So I mean, that's the way
of the world. You know sometimes you know, you know,
it's messed up in the messages, is deluded by guys
coming and playing and punching. Above hell, Joe Burrow was
twenty five years old when he got in the league. Man,
nobody talks about that. He was older than than Lamar
Jackson when he was a rookie. You know, Zack and

(45:50):
all these other guys are young. It's different circumstances, I
think with each team. But part we gotta get out
of here now, enjoy the bye week. We'll be back
out of two weeks from now. But a great job
is all, is my friend. Likewise, man, see you later,
all right. He's Bart Scott. I'm Dan Grassa. Thanks for
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