Jags president Mark Lamping and HOK design principal Peter Broeder discuss the Stadium of the Future, quarterback Trevor Lawrence explains the mindset of a division favorite, plus 11 Jaguars position coaches visit with J.P. Shadrick on the Week in Review Podcast, presented by TIAA Bank.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is the Jaguars Broadcast Weekend Review Podcasts presented by
TIAA Bank. I'm JP Shadwick with the best of the
week from Jags Radio, Jaguars dot com, and our social
channels Jaguars Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. It's Friday, June ninth,
and plenty from Jaguars assistant coaches in their availability from
Wednesday afternoon. That's coming up a little later, But the
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biggest news this week came Wednesday morning when the Jaguars
unveiled the renderings for the Stadium of the Future project
on First Downtown, Jacksonville, dot Com and the Jaguars social channels.
The design is state of the art and the area
around the stadium is very much involved. I caught up
with HOK Design Principal Peter Brod and Jaguars President Mark
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Lamping to go through the design and I asked Lamping
how we got to this point.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Well, it's a big duy for sure.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
We first started the discussion, the public dialogue regarding the
need to deal with the stadium back in twenty sixteen,
and three years ago we began a formal process with
the City of Jacksonville, and today marks the end of
that three year process with the unveiling of the design.
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It was a very extensive process. It began with a
thorough evaluation of the existing stadium, which led us to
the conclusion that there was a possibility we could meet
our needs through a renovation. We then talked to our
fans and other stakeholders, primary amongst them the University of Florida,
University of Georgia, the tax Slayer Bowl, got input from
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them in terms of what they would like to see
in a stadium in the future. We then had a
very extensive design competition. Firms from across the country presented
their conceptual designs, and last December we selected HOK and
since then we've been refining the design, working on the constructibility,
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working on pricing, and we were just very excited to
be able to unveil today what the future could look like.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
So Peter, obviously, some of the things that Mark just
talked about probably made this project so appealing for HOK
to try to jump in and get involved.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
What stood out the.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Most, absolutely the potential for this project as a catalyst
not only for the surrounding development for all of downtown
Jacksonville was enormously exciting for us really from the outset
of the design. The design process was equally thorough as
Mark outlined, and we really prioritized fan comfort and fan
experience first and foremost throughout every decision made through the
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design process, and that factors into some of the amenities
that you see in the artwork that was unveiled today.
Tremendously excited about that, and it really begins with that
experience has shown here walking the promenade and entering through
a new landscape and new garden ways that lead you
to the concourse and to the front door of the building.
The concourses themselves now significantly expanded, as shown here, banded
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to the point where we've now doubled, tripled, and in
some areas quadrupled. This width of those concourse spaces a
lot of discussion and excitement obviously around the facade and
the roof that was designed in such a way again
to maximize fan comfort, to reduce solar heat gain, to
shield from inclement weather, and additionally it becomes a really
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signature and iconic element to the design as well. It's seldom,
I think that renovations are discussed as an icon and
this venue certainly has the opportunity to be just that
an icon.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
All right.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
So the flexibility of this space, guys, I mean you
mentioned some of the other stakeholders in the stadium and
maybe some ideas down the road for other events that
could come in here. How important were those discussions in
the design phase of more seats, less seats, different setups
and everything.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Certainly it starts with the seats, and it actually starts
with the roof too. Maximizing the full usage of this
venue in a multipurpose fashion starts with a full roof canopy,
and so that was central to the design decision from
a seating standpoint. Definitely, thinking about flexibility for NFL events,
the ability to play to a home crowd of around
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sixty two thousand seats was first and foremost part of
the design, but then the flexibility to expand for multipurpose events.
For the Florida Georgia Game, we wanted to design the
expansion seating in a way that was as seamless as possible,
and that certainly factors into creating a terrific fan experience
for those Florida Georgia fans or attendees of any of
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these expanded events, Whether that's the Gator Bowl, the College
football playoffs, international soccer that was certainly factored into the
design thinking too, not just from a seating flexibility standpoint,
but from a character standpoint to creating a truly international
stadium for soccer events.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
We see some of the renderings outside the stadium as well.
But how important is this stadium and this project to
the city of Jacksonville, in downtown Jacksonville in the future here, Well.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I think it's critical. I mean, I think we're at
a very important time in the history of Jacksonville. The
city's on fire on every measure, The Jaguars are in
ascending position, and you know, the primary purpose is to
have our downtown, like so many other downtowns across this
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country and cities similar size of Jacksonville are smaller or larger,
to have that downtown become a real economic engine that
can generate the resources to help invest throughout the community,
particularly in those those underserved areas of Jacksonville. You know,
what we hope to do is try to replicate the
impact of what is what's been so positive with the
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growth of the Brooklyn Livilla area that's you know, to
the to the west of downtown and you can physically
see how that investment in the Brooklyn area now is
moving eastward towards towards downtown. We think we can replicate that,
but we would do it on the east side of downtown,
and it means bringing of bringing a new neighborhood where
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people have a chance to live, where they have a
chance to work, that serves as a great connector between
the Saint John's River to the sports complex, to the
out East neighborhood and beyond, and the stadium being in
an important part of that. And it's not just you know,
securing the future of the Jaguars, it's it's protecting the
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very important Florida Georgia game that has happened here every
year and it's something that is really important for all
of us here in Jacksonville. Trying to elevate the Gator
Bowl so it could be a legitimate candidate to become
part of an expanded college football playoffs, to be able
to tract other events international soccer we mentioned, but concerts
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and events that can make a big impact in this community.
And there isn't a new adm or arena that's being
built around the country that isn't being master planned, you know,
with an entertainment district as part of it. Because as
these rights holders, people that that that make the decision
on where these events go, they want to make sure
that they're that they're fans, that their customers have things
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to do before, during, and after these events. And an
investment like this, even as far as the NFL is concerned,
you know, puts us in a legitimate position to be
able to compete for the NFL Draft. I think all
of those are big things for the community, and you know,
I think now is our time.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Next step in this process is getting out in the community.
Fourteen community huddles. I think you're on the schedule for
all of them. Mark, you have a busy couple of
weeks ahead. What can we expect from these events?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Well, what we want to do is is, you know,
share our message with the community. I mean, this has
been three years worth of work in collaboration with a
lot of people, but there's a lot of others that
you know, we haven't heard from yet. And what we
want to do is do it in a very formal way.
So you know, starting Monday and continuing over the next
ten days, we will be going out into the community.
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We will be holding fourteen community huddles. We will share
more details behind the design, ask for comments, ask for suggestions,
taking to consideration that input, and I think we'll end
up with a much We think we have a great
product right now. I think we'll end up with an
even better product after we go through this process.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
The full conversation with Jack's president Mark Lamping and HOK
Design principal Peter Broder available on Jaguars dot com and
the Jaguars social channels, plus renderings of the design available
at First Downtown Jacksonville dot com and Yes, as Lamping referenced,
there will be fourteen community huddles over a ten day
stretch starting Monday, June twelfth. Lamping is scheduled to attend
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all of them and they are free to the public.
A full list of dates and locations available at Jaguars
dot com or First Downtown Jacksonville dot com. Now to football,
head coach Dog Peterson spoke with the media Monday ahead
of the final week of organized team activities, and he
discussed what the team has accomplished so far this offseason.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
One, because the participation, the amount of guys that are
here that's that's the number one thing that I look
at because it's a voluntary off season program. Right next
week is the mandatory mini camp, the only three days
that you know, the guys are required to be here.
So I've been really pleased and being having great participation,
great effort.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Guys are doing the right things.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Yeah, we've been able to work on some stuff that
the coaches have, you know, taken away from last season
or new ideas, new thoughts. We've been able to implement those,
you know this this spring and and really, uh, you know,
just just get stuff on film. Really, but it's been
it's been a good off season so far. Have you
decided how you're going to handle Mini camp yet?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I have probably not.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
That was Monday, but by Friday, the team had announced
that select player, including a majority of veterans, who participated
in the offseason program to date, well, they'll be excused
from the entire veteran mandatory mini camp. Rookies, first year players,
and injured veterans will still be required to participate, So
don't expect to hear from Trevor Lawrence next week. He
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spoke with the media this week and was asked the
mindset now that the Jaguars are the favorites in the
division and the team is now being hunted.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
I mean, it doesn't change anything for us. I mean, obviously,
I think anything, it's got to work even harder. I mean,
it doesn't really change anything for us. Regardless of the expectations.
The game is played on Sunday. You got to go
out there and play the game, regardless of if people
think you're gonna win, think you're gonna lose, doesn't really matter.
So and that's the mindset we had last year, being
pretty much underdog in every game, and we got to
carry that over this year too. And we still have
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to have that chip on our shoulder and prepare the
same way. You know, we didn't. We still didn't get
to where we wanted to last year, so we have
a lot more.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Work to do.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
Right in your own mind, and I know you're not
going to actually tell us a number, but you sort
of have a number in your own mind about how
much more points per game you would like to see
this out.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Of the offense, because obviously you want more.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Yeah, I mean, obviously you're looking to improve in every
category and every part of your personal game, and as
an offense, and at the end of the day, no,
I'm not gonna give you answer, because we're gonna score
as many points it takes to win, and some weeks
that'll be Some weeks that might be thirty five, some
weeks that might be seventeen. Who knows what it's going
to be. Obviously, we want to score as many points
as we can. But the end of the day, if
we got one more point than the other team, that's
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that's what it's about.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
Tutterding.
Speaker 9 (11:28):
Have you've seen anything from Calvin or learned about Calvin?
Speaker 10 (11:31):
He didn't know maybe you know three.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
Or four months ago.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Yeah, I mean I just I never really I know
some guys that played with him in Atlanta, I don't
keep in touch with those guys as much anymore. So
I didn't know much about him personally. Obviously I know
the kind of player he is. I've watched in the
last few years and was super excited about that aspect
of him joining our team. But just to get to
know him as a person and just to see his
work ethic and how hungry he is to get back
into play and how happy he is to be a
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part of our team, I think that's been the coolest
part of having.
Speaker 10 (11:58):
Here season, Like you're not adjusting to the league, not
adjusting to a new to.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
The new system definitely, you know, to have to have
the same staff, to have a lot of the same players,
to have that carryover and the system especially. You know,
this's the first time in a while I haven't been
learning a new offense, and that feels good having that
and being able to focus on little parts of my
game instead of just making sure I got the installs
and know the plan coming into practice. You know, obviously
if you look over that too, but not having that
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stress of just learning the playbook, I can just really
focus on my game and my mechanics.
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assistant coaches. They were made available in a roundtable format
Wednesday afternoon, and we'll begin on the offensive side. Quarterbacks
coach Mike McCoy talked about the difference of Trevor Lawrence
in the meeting room now as opposed to when McCoy
took over.
Speaker 12 (14:13):
And we always said from day to the first meeting,
we said, hey, listen, we're gonna come in, we're gonna
work our tails up. We're gonna have fun too. It's
not gonna be just football. You know, an hour hour
of an hour. If something comes up one day and
we're gonna crack a joke with somebody, someone did something
in practice, Christian there day tripped in practice. Well, we're
gonna turn the film on. We're gonna joke about it,
have fun, and things come up with our families we
always talk about. So that's what it is. But now
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the great thing is, you know, early on in the
offseason program, we start from scratch. You know, you install
day one again and then you keep on going. But
the great thing about it is now we can watch
more film and we can have more open conversation about Hey,
you remember the Kansas City game, the second series of
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the game, this came up or he can ask a
quot question like a protection. Hey, you know in Dallas,
this situation came up. I made this call. What do
you think about me doing this now? And that that's
the guts, that's experience, and that's kind of what was developed.
I think that's why you saw our offense take off
towards the end of the year. The mistakes earlier in
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the year. I hate to say it, but some of
them are expected. You know, there's gonna he's gonna miss
some things. You look at the Washington game now, I
mean all the offseason program, every time he turned that
game on, it's like, gosh, that was awful. It's and
you miss a ball, a throw here, to Christian, you
miss a ball here, or a protection or a cut
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by the running backs, It's like, well, and it's like listen,
that was week one of the season. This is how
we're going to learn, This is how we're going to
get better. Just make a note of it. I mean,
he's throwing a ball in a live situation in Washington
for the first time with some of these teammates. He's
never played a game at that level. With Christian Kirk,
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he missed Travis on a couple. Well, Travis was out,
you know, he didn't get to play the rookie year,
so he missed all those opportunities. So the speed of
the game from going from preseason games to the opener
and as a season it picks up, so you're gonna
miss some things. And there was a throw or two
here and there as we got going, and there's a
throw in Indie that we missed to Christian and it's like, okay,
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we're a little late with the throw. And then two
weeks later it's even a tighter coverage and we make
the throw. So it's just you grow over time.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
How hard has that been in the league for a
long time to be patient with a quarterback going.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Through that kind of stuff.
Speaker 12 (16:38):
Well, hey, my job's easy. It's easy to sit here
talk to you after a game, or talk as we're
sitting here now, or for me to watch with remote
in my hand after the fact on the plane ride
at home and say, oh, why didn't we throw it
over here or you should have gone over here. It's
the one thing I've always told the quarterbacks is listen,
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we're gonna sit down in between every series or in practice,
after every practice, or when we have in special teams
period during practice, I'm always gonna ask you.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
What did you see?
Speaker 12 (17:09):
And it's my job to correct you or my job
to say good point. And we knew there's gonna be
some growing pains last year, in the first year that
you know that you're it's a young quarterback. I'm also
very fortunate to have coached two of the greatest to
ever play the game in Philip Rivers and Peyton Manning,
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and then the guys that I played with and Caroly
Jake Dilom's of the World, Rodney Pete, Steve Berlin, some
great veterans that are outstanding players that have played a
lot of football. So I was spoiled. And I've also
been in some games where you play with some younger
guys and you will understand they're gonna miss some things.
And I played the position, Doug played the position, so
it's we see those mistakes sometimes and it kills you,
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but it's like, Okay, we've thrown some interceptions. It's not
gonna be the last one. We're gonna We're gonna miss
certain throws, but just keep going. And that's one of
the main things for me, is having played the position
is just to keep them going on the sidelines, talk
him out of the funks, and very similar to the
Charger game, just keep.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Going, buddy.
Speaker 12 (18:14):
We've done a lot of really good things. You're his talent.
I mean the conversation after the London game. There's certain
things you've got to help him get where he is.
But we all knew the type of player Trevor could become,
and that's where he's at today.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Running Backs coach Bernie Parmally has another new addition in
third round draft pick Tank Bigsby. I asked Parmally to
compare and contrast the styles of Bigsby and Travis et
En Jr.
Speaker 13 (18:38):
You know what, It's a similar but a little bit
like take us more downhill in between, more power, but
he does have the quickness to be that home run hitter.
Travis is that slasher, you know, that smooth slasher.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
He's tougher than what people think. He will put his
shoulder now.
Speaker 13 (18:58):
And then I think, like which as far as being
split out, he can do that, Tay can do it also.
Actually he wasn't asked to catch a lot of passes
at Auburn, but he actually has good hands.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
So we finding that out also.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
How important it is that in today's NFL to have
all these different types of running backs.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
In your room.
Speaker 13 (19:20):
To have kind of the big guy, the fast guy,
the guy who can do everything all in your same group. Well,
you love to have the total package. Some guys can
do both, some guys can't. But you just got to
play to the strengths of the guys that you have.
So if we're lacking something, you got to get somebody
that can bring what you're lacking. But it's also it's
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really good. It's like a kid in the candy store.
You got everything you need right there in the room.
It's like, okay, now we can play. You want power football,
we can want power football. You want this slashes type,
we can do that. We can do any type of
football you want. So when you get those guys that
can do multiple things, it bowls well for the offense.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
The offensive line has some moving arts in this offseason,
but there's no one more excited about what they have
to offer that offensive line. Coach Phil Rauscher.
Speaker 14 (20:07):
We have a really good group. I think that if
you asked them, they would tell you that they're they're
the tightest group on the team. Like they take a
lot of pride in that. So there's nothing that that
we don't know about each other and kind of what
our limitations are and what are and what we excel at.
So it's it's just the mix of finding the right combination,
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the right five guys and where that is and and
it may be different today than it is when training
camp starts in comparison to what what the the first
first game ends up being against Indy. It's just it's
finding that mix and and how that plays. And now
are there parts of the puzzle that we feel really
good about, Like Luke Fortner is gonna gonna play center
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for us. He did a really good job and he's
developed into a really much stronger player than when he
than the season ended. So you kind of like change
always happens. Change is inevitable on the offensive line, and
but these guys together as a unit cohesively, they understand
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what it takes to get that job done. So we
feel really good about that.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
At tight end, second round pick Brenton Strange could make
an early impact on the offense. Tight end's coach Richard
and Gulo explains why.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
I think he's done a good job. You know, he's
we can use them all over the place. Really, He's
he's got a big body, he can run, he can catch,
So whether it's in line, split out wherever, I think
we can use him anywhere really, And he's also done
a good job. He's a smart guy. He's able to grasp,
he's able to get a feel for things without him
going to take a bunch of reps. So he's done good. Well,
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you know you have to get in the second round.
You got high expectations for him. So I think he's
right where we wanted to be. Obviously, you know, with
Evan not being here gives him more opportunity for sure.
So he's like I said, he's done good. He's fit
fit right in with the locker room, right with the room.
It was extremely excited to have him here, honestly.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
And finally, wide receivers coach Chad Hall and here it's
an outstanding position group, but there's only one football to
go around. How does Hall battle the egos that could
come at the wide receiver position.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
No, I mean that's my job, you know, And luckily
I know I haven't been coaching long, but I had
that experience in Buffalo with Stefan Diggs. You know, he
was a little bit of a whatever you want to
call him in Minnesota and then he came here and
that was my responsibility and I and we made sure that, uh,
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you know, the great players are great players, and they
just want to win and if we win, it doesn't matter.
If we lose, then sometimes they're upset because they want
to do more. They felt they could help more, you know,
those star players. But no, we're not going to have
that issue. I mean, those guys we meet every morning,
those three in myself, and uh, we're I mean, they're
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everything's going great.
Speaker 13 (23:00):
What's your concern for a.
Speaker 15 (23:01):
Guy like Calvin, who if he plays in the open
whichever expects.
Speaker 8 (23:04):
It'll be twenty three months between games.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
That's a huge playoffs.
Speaker 10 (23:08):
What's your concern about where he could be rusty or
what his biggest issue would be if anyone you know,
dealing with that layout.
Speaker 8 (23:15):
You know, I don't think that there's no concern on
my end. I think for him it's just you know,
that first game back, so he's probably gonna just have
some butterflies. You know, he's you know, but exciting butterfly.
You know, it's just been a while. But other than that.
Once he gets by those nerves, makes his first catch,
I think it's gonna be He'll be back to normal,
you know. I mean it's like riding a bike. You know,
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he's done it at a high level already in this league,
so he's just got to get back on the bike.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Just in this offense. You your first look at this state.
How difficult is it to play receiver in this offense?
Considering the movement all over the place, Guys can line
up in different areas Christian jenside or outside if he
needs to be what kind of what kind of mental
makeup do you have?
Speaker 8 (23:57):
Yeah, you gotta be smart. You gotta be smart. And
I challenge especially at the receiver position, because you can
play any spot. Sometimes you're gonna be the X, the Z,
the F, the Y, it doesn't matter. But the concepts
stay the same. So it's really the bigger picture that
you have to know. And then once you know where
to align, you know the concept. You know the big picture,
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so you know what you're doing. But it takes time.
And I took time for me. I mean I told
them exactly what I did when I got here, got
the offense, looked at it started making note cards and
that's what that's my way of learning, and then I
figure out the con you know. So it's I tell
them how I do it. I give them ideas. I'm
always here to help for any time they come in
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my office. But I also tell them there's one there's
there's only a couple of things you can control on
the football field. Well, knowing what to do is what
you can control. So if you're out there doing the
wrong thing, then you know you're not gonna play right.
And I tell them not to you know, just I'm
not you know, being mean or anything. It's just is
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what it is like, this is your job. Is the
NFL paid a lot of money. If you don't know
what you're doing, not gonna be out there. And that
was one of the things I told today. I was like, hey,
you know two positions when you come back, you better
know three, you know, because that's what we need. And
it's hard, so answering your question.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
You have to be smart.
Speaker 8 (25:19):
But we have enough time where even the lowest common
denomena we can make it happen. And then again that's
my job.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Let's move along to the defense. Senior defensive assistant Bob
Sutton has over forty years of coaching experience, over twenty
of those in the NFL. He was the Army head
coach from nineteen ninety one to ninety nine, and then
started his NFL career as an assistant in two thousand
and That includes two different stints as a defensive coordinator
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in the NFL, with the Jets and the Chiefs. With Sutton,
I started with a major theme for the defense moving ahead,
how do you get more pass rush out of this team?
That's a that's a simple question, but maybe not as
simple answer.
Speaker 10 (26:02):
Well, I think you know, of course most I think
the most common way people analyze pass rush of sacks.
My personal feeling would be that pressure is one of
the really important things. I've used this with players before
when I was in Kansas City at justin Houston and
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he got twenty two sacks, half sack short of the record.
Now he was in there was seven hundred and fifty
some passes in that year. Now, if you get twenty
two out of seven fifty in baseball, you're done. Basketball,
you're done, right and football is it's a mark.
Speaker 8 (26:45):
But the point of it is is.
Speaker 10 (26:47):
To get a sack isn't really the most important. We
love them, we're they're great, but the most important thing
is keep pressure on the quarterback. You know, if you
don't affect the quarterback in today's game, I think is
really hard to win, you know. And in fact, if
you ever look at QBR the quarterback ratings, and you
look at the stat sheet we get after the game,
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the team with the highest QBR usually wins. And so
when you say QBR, you're really talking about affecting the quarterback,
and that's that's sacks, pressures, move them off the spot, disguise,
tight coverage, and I really think that's the only.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Way you win. You know.
Speaker 10 (27:26):
Completion percentages in the last I think are up to
about sixty six or sixty seven percent, that's the average,
you know, So you got to play great team defense
to affect the quarterbacks today.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
A major part of that pass rush Josh Allen and
Trayvon Walker under the tutelage of outside linebackers coach Bill Shuey.
I asked Jim how Allen can expand his late season
success over a seventeen game schedule.
Speaker 16 (27:54):
It's extremely difficult to stretch out over a full seventeen games,
but you know that's the goal right there, because it's
a the.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Production that you want.
Speaker 16 (28:01):
You can't have lapses like Josh had, and he knows that.
And sometimes when you're aware of that, it doesn't necessarily
help the situation. You know, because somebody had asked me
earlier and I said, you know, the one thing about
Josh being a team guy, like he loves being a Jaguar,
you know, last year he's a captain. He wants to
be the guy to make the play that changes the game,
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and he works hard at it. But the situation still
has to present itself. You just have to be prepared
when it does. And so that's what we say, you know,
like we always want guys to do their job. Do
you're one to eleven, trust in the process and trust
the man next to you that he's going to do
his job. And you know, I think for him, the
consistency part is real when you look at the whys
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behind some of that stuff, you know, some of that
are going to be out of his control. Sometimes he
just got to keep going. And I think that's kind
of what he did last year, Like he yeah, sure
there was some frustration when the production went down for
that lull, but he ken't working hard and kept having
having faith and not only himself, but the guys around him,
and the trust that the coaching staff had on, you know,
in him to keep putting him in the position. And
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then eventually things turn around, and they have a tendency
to do that. Like though, they can come in bunches.
You had a couple, you know, you get a couple
of two SAT games and and and things change around
a little bit for him. So I think for him
the thought processes is a lesson be learned from last year.
You started off pretty good, you had a lull, then
you close pretty good at the end. You know, just
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keep keep focused on the next play, the next play,
the next play. You know, you talk about sixty minutes
of football and then you you're taking stuff from the game.
But at the end of the day, you don't really
want to go and evaluate your game at halftime. Right
like that, You think about the next series, the next play,
and then you see where it ends it where it
ends up at the very end of the game. But
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for Josh, just keep he keeps working, He keeps working
in game, he keeps working in practice, and I'm excited
to see him hopefully soon how give us.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
A degree of difficulty of what Trayvon Walker did last
year going outside really for the first time.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
He didn't do a lot of that at Georgia, and.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
You know, his his effort at least in trying to
play outside and maybe his ability to move around as
the season goes.
Speaker 16 (30:19):
Yeah, I do think it's I think it's I think
there is a certain level of difficulty to doing that,
and I think some of the learning curve that he had.
I mean, that's that's real. You know, that's real. There's
you look at the space that's involved. You look at
just the stance sometimes, you know, being a two point stance.
You know, I remember working in Chicago with Trevis Gibson,
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who was essentially an interior d line. When he came out,
he had to work on his stance just for a while,
just to get comfortable in the stance. You know, you alone,
playing the position in the scheme and everything like that.
But then you talk about you know, you're looking at
the angles that happened. The angles are different on the outside.
You know, you can look at and say, well, is
a three technique the same as a live technique and
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it does play out the same and a lot of
in a lot of aspects, but just the angles, the space,
some of that is different. The timing of things is different,
and so you know, on a on a bigger scale,
you can say, yeah, well, if I'm playing on an
edge of one guy, it's going to be the same
whether I'm on the center, I'm the edge of the guard,
on the edge of the tackle. But the further you
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move out, the more space there is, and then the
more you know the space of the game, the timing
of the hands, the timing of the move area, and
all that other stuff changes. From that standpoint, I thought
he did a great job of playing physical in the
run game and setting edges that sometimes gets overlooked until
you don't have the ability to do that. Like those
are one of those things you almost take it for
granted when you have a guy like Josh, a guy
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like Trayvon and Klevon does a good job, you know,
and that stuff. And the guys we had last year,
I thought they did a pretty good job. We had
a good group from that standpoint, So I don't think
we as a staff took it for granted or anything
like that, but you can see where you could almost
you know, naturally do it. But he did a great
job there. He did a pretty good job coverage too.
I know there's a couple of those wheel routes you
know where you know where Josh got caught up and
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trey Von. Though for a guy that's coming from a
down lineman in college to go out there and play,
you know, I can't remember the exact number, but I
feel like eighty ninety coverge reps in a year, that's
a that's a pretty substantial And the coverage techniques that
he played, it wasn't like he was playing the same
coverage technique every time, and so you know, those are strides,
the passtresh part of it. I think he did learn
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and get better as it goes. It may not have
shown up in the numbers, but that was the thing
coming into this offseason, Let's see if we can, you know,
kind of start this offseason where we finished last season
and bill from there and not taking any steps back.
And I think he came in that way. He spent
some time on his own in the off season before
he even got here, and you could tell I felt
like he came in better than when he left last year.
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So now it was my job you know, along with
Mike and with buck and Rory and everybody else that's
here to collaborative, collaborative, to work together and see if
we can keep mentioning him forward. And I think I
think he has now. It's just gonna be a matter of,
you know, the opportunity and see how it translations into production.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Defensive line coach Brinson Buckner had more on Trayvon Walker,
including his ability inside.
Speaker 17 (33:11):
I mean, Treyvon can handle anything because Trey Vunn was
an inside guy that we moved outside.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
So I just let you know how athletic that he is.
Speaker 17 (33:19):
I think, once again, the football maturity, the football IQ
a lot of things Treyvunn saw last year as an
outside linebackers was the first time he ever saw those
as a football player because he's never been in that world.
And I thought he handled it perfectly. And I think
he's coming back here this year knowing, anticipating what he
needs to know, and he's putting in the work. You know,
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he split time between me and coach Shuey, and we
bring the whole group together and we work because there's
a lot of crossover and you just you can see
them the football maturity starting to kick in. You starting
to see the body starting to unlock. Now where it's
not like, oh, I'm finna be surprised about No. I
saw this ten, fifteen, twenty times last year.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Let me to it.
Speaker 17 (34:00):
So I don't think that is a challenge for him.
I think with trey Von, he's a football player, and
that's why we loved him so much. We didn't look
at himself. He's an outside linebacker, he's a defensive We
saw a football player, and I think the game is
built around those guys that can play those multiple positions
with no kind of drop off. And that's what he's becoming.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Who is the d one smooth? Who is who is
that role? Because he had some big key roles in
the late in the season.
Speaker 17 (34:29):
He has some some great roles, and I don't think
we have one because what he was was a unique guy.
But we have some guys who bring some special to
the table. Or the young man out of Louisville who
was dressed the yasia, the gasia is a bullet off
the edge and he's showing in these ot as that
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you know he understands the run game too, So that's
a that's that's something he's gonna bring bring to the table,
you know, inside playing with guys who have guys like
like Dixon, who that we moved from outside linebacker and
moved him into the defensive line room. And he's starting
to get a little bit bigger now with didn't effect
his speed, but he still has his power. So he
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brings a unique skill set that can go in there
and play. So I don't think you really ever replaced
guys like Smooth because they're so special.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Now I'll be undermining what no kind of player he is.
Speaker 17 (35:24):
I think he's a special player. But guys can add
their different flavor to it that can alleviate some of
those things, but just do it a different way.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Tony Gilbert is the inside linebackers coach for the Jags.
He has the league's leading tackler in Foyer Alukun in
his room, of course, but twenty twenty two first round
pick Devin Lloyd was under the microscope as a rookie
last season. Gilbert explained his progression as an off the
ball linebacker.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
He's seen great improvement off the mall.
Speaker 18 (35:51):
And I think for him because he did so much
in college moving around, I think for him just being
a stackbacker was probably it's probably an adjustment, but I
think after seeing and going through his going pains of
the rookie year, coming back in the end and having
some success, Like he actually texts me, you know, our
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first week back and was like, hey, I'm tired of
putting media ocre film out.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
There, and I said, I love it.
Speaker 8 (36:17):
I said, yeah, I want to help you.
Speaker 18 (36:18):
You know, we all want to help you be the
best version of yourself and be the best player that
you want to be. So you can tell mentally physically
mostly he's in a great spot.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
You know. I think he took some.
Speaker 18 (36:29):
Time off to really just give his body and his
mind arrest, and he's been great.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Let's go to the secondary, starting with safeties coach Cody Griham.
Andre Cisco has been in the weight room this offseason.
It looks like but Grim knows the improvement can continue
for number five.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (36:47):
Yeah, he made strides as the season went on. He's
still left a few plays out there, whether he dropped
the ball or this and that, and then we were
working on this on this ots, you know, as far
as you know, putting him down so much strong, you know,
so we get some different looks that he doesn't always
get unless you know, he'll get a little bit, but
off of motion to round out his game better. We're
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making better in the wrong game this season for sure.
And then on the back end, I mean he's got
a gift. I mean, he's got range, and he's got
good eyes, he's got a good feel back there. Now
we just gotta make some of the plays we missed
and then have a big hear.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Andrew Wingard still around here, man, just making plays, big moments.
He's out there some of those three safety looks. So
kind of intangibles can does he bring to this not
only the safety room, but his defense is zone.
Speaker 10 (37:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (37:37):
I mean he's a lunch pale type guy. He comes
to work every days.
Speaker 8 (37:42):
He's a pro.
Speaker 15 (37:43):
He works hard. He understands the whole defense. His job
are the rules, and then that's part of the reason
he had so much success down Then we, you know,
asking him to do some stuff whether it's linebacker that
he was able to understand and then obviously make plays.
You know, we harp on turnovers and stuff like that,
and do we get that, you know, punch out versus Ravens,
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which is huge and pick first Tennessee where It's just
stuff we always talk about as far as you know.
Tennessee was spread first, probably quick game and he jumps
it and they throw the hitch and he makes a play.
So he's able to take stuff from the meeting room
to the field. And then he's always just pro, shows
up to work, gets his job done.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
And finally cornerbacks de Shaye Townsend played in the NFL
for thirteen seasons, twelve of those with the Steelers. I
asked him about the mindset of cornerback Tyson Campbell and
his improvement moving into year three.
Speaker 19 (38:37):
You know, one thing that we talked about from the
first year after I saw him and watch his tape
from before I coached him to the next year was
all right, let's find our ways to find the ball,
you know, turning some of those plays into PBUs of
getting the head around.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
And we saw him make some good players on.
Speaker 19 (38:53):
Some back shoulders and fast share his interceptions that he got.
His next step is all right, let's turn these pvus
in interceptions and each year you're gonna see him improve.
You know, the more reps he gets, the more opportunity
he gets to locate and.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Track the ball.
Speaker 19 (39:07):
You know, you see him working at it daily, and
that's gonna be the next step. You know, it's not
just covering the guy. Let's find ways to make them
plain when they do throw it your way, and that's
gonna be our ultimate goal.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Like, that's what he grinds and works on.
Speaker 19 (39:20):
He's working on a little part of the game or
understanding what the offense are doing.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
And that's the thing that you love about it.
Speaker 19 (39:25):
Like he we meet every morning, like Wednesday, Thursday, during
the week, we meet every morning before practice before everybody
else goes, and we watch tape, we watch other guys,
we watch the offenses. So he's taking that next step
to make sure if it's not just the physical part,
it's a middle part that's gonna separate him.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
And he's working at it.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
How hard is that to you know, he had that
you're talking about tracking the ball head submit, how hard
is that to overcome?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
To improve a part? It is improvement.
Speaker 19 (39:51):
Yeah, it's just something that you just got to work.
You know, it's a timing thing or field thing. It's
also understanding what they're trying to do and where the
quarterbacks trying to throw it at. So it's it's something
that's you know, if everybody can do it, we would
all be doing it.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
But it's something that you have to work at and
he's working on.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
So he didn't have bad ball skills.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
He's just h yeah, you gotta work at him.
Speaker 19 (40:11):
Now, you gotta work But you know, some of it
is you know, you look at a lot of guys
in college that taught to play through the hands. So
you got to think they got ten thousand reps of
telling him. What their college coach to him to do
is go play through the hands because that's their rules.
Like you can make contact in college without it being
a PI, but in this league is they're gonna throw
a flag, so you better gets hit around.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
So you gotta do some stuff to coach some things
out of young guys.
Speaker 19 (40:33):
And he's one of those guys that you just have
to coach it out of him, and he's working on it.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Darius Williams a little older than the rest of the room, right,
a different path to the college stuff. So how does
that help him that just he's lived some.
Speaker 19 (40:46):
Life now he has you know, he's lived some life,
but he's not old in football years. You know, he's
a little bit older when his path to get here
but his body might not be as old as the
years that has been in the league. So but it's
just its intensibles, you know, playing with some different guys
that are really good players. And then he has to
be self made, you know. He went to a small
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school and went to UAB, was a free agent, so
he had to figure it out the tough way of
this is what I need to do to be a pro.
And that type of things that you can give the
young guys in the rest of the room is invaluable,
you know.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
And he's that type of guy that he's a pro.
Speaker 19 (41:20):
He's quiet, not gonna say much, but he comes to
work and he'll share with you if you ask.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
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This is the Jaguars Broadcast Weekend Review Podcasts presented by
TIAA Bank. I'm JP Shadwick with the best of the
week from Jags Radio, Jaguars dot com, and our social
channels Jaguars Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. It's Friday, June ninth,
and plenty from Jaguars assistant coaches in their availability from
Wednesday afternoon. That's coming up a little later, But the
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biggest news this week came Wednesday morning when the Jaguars
unveiled the renderings for the Stadium of the Future project
on First Downtown, Jacksonville, dot Com and the Jaguars social channels.
The design is state of the art and the area
around the stadium is very much involved. I caught up
with HOK Design Principal Peter Brod and Jaguars President Mark
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Lamping to go through the design and I asked Lamping
how we got to this point.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Well, it's a big duy for sure.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
We first started the discussion, the public dialogue regarding the
need to deal with the stadium back in twenty sixteen,
and three years ago we began a formal process with
the City of Jacksonville, and today marks the end of
that three year process with the unveiling of the design.
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It was a very extensive process. It began with a
thorough evaluation of the existing stadium, which led us to
the conclusion that there was a possibility we could meet
our needs through a renovation. We then talked to our
fans and other stakeholders, primary amongst them the University of Florida,
University of Georgia, the tax Slayer Bowl, got input from
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them in terms of what they would like to see
in a stadium in the future. We then had a
very extensive design competition. Firms from across the country presented
their conceptual designs, and last December we selected HOK and
since then we've been refining the design, working on the constructibility,
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working on pricing, and we were just very excited to
be able to unveil today what the future could look like.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
So Peter, obviously, some of the things that Mark just
talked about probably made this project so appealing for HOK
to try to jump in and get involved.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
What stood out the.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Most, absolutely the potential for this project as a catalyst
not only for the surrounding development for all of downtown
Jacksonville was enormously exciting for us really from the outset
of the design. The design process was equally thorough as
Mark outlined, and we really prioritized fan comfort and fan
experience first and foremost throughout every decision made through the
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design process, and that factors into some of the amenities
that you see in the artwork that was unveiled today.
Tremendously excited about that, and it really begins with that
experience has shown here walking the promenade and entering through
a new landscape and new garden ways that lead you
to the concourse and to the front door of the building.
The concourses themselves now significantly expanded, as shown here, banded
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to the point where we've now doubled, tripled, and in
some areas quadrupled. This width of those concourse spaces a
lot of discussion and excitement obviously around the facade and
the roof that was designed in such a way again
to maximize fan comfort, to reduce solar heat gain, to
shield from inclement weather, and additionally it becomes a really
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signature and iconic element to the design as well. It's seldom,
I think that renovations are discussed as an icon and
this venue certainly has the opportunity to be just that
an icon.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
All right.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
So the flexibility of this space, guys, I mean you
mentioned some of the other stakeholders in the stadium and
maybe some ideas down the road for other events that
could come in here. How important were those discussions in
the design phase of more seats, less seats, different setups
and everything.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Certainly it starts with the seats, and it actually starts
with the roof too. Maximizing the full usage of this
venue in a multipurpose fashion starts with a full roof canopy,
and so that was central to the design decision from
a seating standpoint. Definitely, thinking about flexibility for NFL events,
the ability to play to a home crowd of around
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sixty two thousand seats was first and foremost part of
the design, but then the flexibility to expand for multipurpose events.
For the Florida Georgia Game, we wanted to design the
expansion seating in a way that was as seamless as possible,
and that certainly factors into creating a terrific fan experience
for those Florida Georgia fans or attendees of any of
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these expanded events, Whether that's the Gator Bowl, the College
football playoffs, international soccer that was certainly factored into the
design thinking too, not just from a seating flexibility standpoint,
but from a character standpoint to creating a truly international
stadium for soccer events.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
We see some of the renderings outside the stadium as well.
But how important is this stadium and this project to
the city of Jacksonville, in downtown Jacksonville in the future here, Well.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I think it's critical. I mean, I think we're at
a very important time in the history of Jacksonville. The
city's on fire on every measure, The Jaguars are in
ascending position, and you know, the primary purpose is to
have our downtown, like so many other downtowns across this
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country and cities similar size of Jacksonville are smaller or larger,
to have that downtown become a real economic engine that
can generate the resources to help invest throughout the community,
particularly in those those underserved areas of Jacksonville. You know,
what we hope to do is try to replicate the
impact of what is what's been so positive with the
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growth of the Brooklyn Livilla area that's you know, to
the to the west of downtown and you can physically
see how that investment in the Brooklyn area now is
moving eastward towards towards downtown. We think we can replicate that,
but we would do it on the east side of downtown,
and it means bringing of bringing a new neighborhood where
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people have a chance to live, where they have a
chance to work, that serves as a great connector between
the Saint John's River to the sports complex, to the
out East neighborhood and beyond, and the stadium being in
an important part of that. And it's not just you know,
securing the future of the Jaguars, it's it's protecting the
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very important Florida Georgia game that has happened here every
year and it's something that is really important for all
of us here in Jacksonville. Trying to elevate the Gator
Bowl so it could be a legitimate candidate to become
part of an expanded college football playoffs, to be able
to tract other events international soccer we mentioned, but concerts
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and events that can make a big impact in this community.
And there isn't a new adm or arena that's being
built around the country that isn't being master planned, you know,
with an entertainment district as part of it. Because as
these rights holders, people that that that make the decision
on where these events go, they want to make sure
that they're that they're fans, that their customers have things
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to do before, during, and after these events. And an
investment like this, even as far as the NFL is concerned,
you know, puts us in a legitimate position to be
able to compete for the NFL Draft. I think all
of those are big things for the community, and you know,
I think now is our time.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Next step in this process is getting out in the community.
Fourteen community huddles. I think you're on the schedule for
all of them. Mark, you have a busy couple of
weeks ahead. What can we expect from these events?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Well, what we want to do is is, you know,
share our message with the community. I mean, this has
been three years worth of work in collaboration with a
lot of people, but there's a lot of others that
you know, we haven't heard from yet. And what we
want to do is do it in a very formal way.
So you know, starting Monday and continuing over the next
ten days, we will be going out into the community.
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We will be holding fourteen community huddles. We will share
more details behind the design, ask for comments, ask for suggestions,
taking to consideration that input, and I think we'll end
up with a much We think we have a great
product right now. I think we'll end up with an
even better product after we go through this process.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
The full conversation with Jack's president Mark Lamping and HOK
Design principal Peter Broder available on Jaguars dot com and
the Jaguars social channels, plus renderings of the design available
at First Downtown Jacksonville dot com and Yes, as Lamping referenced,
there will be fourteen community huddles over a ten day
stretch starting Monday, June twelfth. Lamping is scheduled to attend
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all of them and they are free to the public.
A full list of dates and locations available at Jaguars
dot com or First Downtown Jacksonville dot com. Now to football,
head coach Dog Peterson spoke with the media Monday ahead
of the final week of organized team activities, and he
discussed what the team has accomplished so far this offseason.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
One, because the participation, the amount of guys that are
here that's that's the number one thing that I look
at because it's a voluntary off season program. Right next
week is the mandatory mini camp, the only three days
that you know, the guys are required to be here.
So I've been really pleased and being having great participation,
great effort.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Guys are doing the right things.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Yeah, we've been able to work on some stuff that
the coaches have, you know, taken away from last season
or new ideas, new thoughts. We've been able to implement those,
you know this this spring and and really, uh, you know,
just just get stuff on film. Really, but it's been
it's been a good off season so far. Have you
decided how you're going to handle Mini camp yet?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I have probably not.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
That was Monday, but by Friday, the team had announced
that select player, including a majority of veterans, who participated
in the offseason program to date, well, they'll be excused
from the entire veteran mandatory mini camp. Rookies, first year players,
and injured veterans will still be required to participate, So
don't expect to hear from Trevor Lawrence next week. He
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spoke with the media this week and was asked the
mindset now that the Jaguars are the favorites in the
division and the team is now being hunted.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
I mean, it doesn't change anything for us. I mean, obviously,
I think anything, it's got to work even harder. I mean,
it doesn't really change anything for us. Regardless of the expectations.
The game is played on Sunday. You got to go
out there and play the game, regardless of if people
think you're gonna win, think you're gonna lose, doesn't really matter.
So and that's the mindset we had last year, being
pretty much underdog in every game, and we got to
carry that over this year too. And we still have
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to have that chip on our shoulder and prepare the
same way. You know, we didn't. We still didn't get
to where we wanted to last year, so we have
a lot more.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Work to do.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
Right in your own mind, and I know you're not
going to actually tell us a number, but you sort
of have a number in your own mind about how
much more points per game you would like to see
this out.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Of the offense, because obviously you want more.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Yeah, I mean, obviously you're looking to improve in every
category and every part of your personal game, and as
an offense, and at the end of the day, no,
I'm not gonna give you answer, because we're gonna score
as many points it takes to win, and some weeks
that'll be Some weeks that might be thirty five, some
weeks that might be seventeen. Who knows what it's going
to be. Obviously, we want to score as many points
as we can. But the end of the day, if
we got one more point than the other team, that's
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that's what it's about.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
Tutterding.
Speaker 9 (11:28):
Have you've seen anything from Calvin or learned about Calvin?
Speaker 10 (11:31):
He didn't know maybe you know three.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
Or four months ago.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Yeah, I mean I just I never really I know
some guys that played with him in Atlanta, I don't
keep in touch with those guys as much anymore. So
I didn't know much about him personally. Obviously I know
the kind of player he is. I've watched in the
last few years and was super excited about that aspect
of him joining our team. But just to get to
know him as a person and just to see his
work ethic and how hungry he is to get back
into play and how happy he is to be a
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part of our team, I think that's been the coolest
part of having.
Speaker 10 (11:58):
Here season, Like you're not adjusting to the league, not
adjusting to a new to.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
The new system definitely, you know, to have to have
the same staff, to have a lot of the same players,
to have that carryover and the system especially. You know,
this's the first time in a while I haven't been
learning a new offense, and that feels good having that
and being able to focus on little parts of my
game instead of just making sure I got the installs
and know the plan coming into practice. You know, obviously
if you look over that too, but not having that
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stress of just learning the playbook, I can just really
focus on my game and my mechanics.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
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assistant coaches. They were made available in a roundtable format
Wednesday afternoon, and we'll begin on the offensive side. Quarterbacks
coach Mike McCoy talked about the difference of Trevor Lawrence
in the meeting room now as opposed to when McCoy
took over.
Speaker 12 (14:13):
And we always said from day to the first meeting,
we said, hey, listen, we're gonna come in, we're gonna
work our tails up. We're gonna have fun too. It's
not gonna be just football. You know, an hour hour
of an hour. If something comes up one day and
we're gonna crack a joke with somebody, someone did something
in practice, Christian there day tripped in practice. Well, we're
gonna turn the film on. We're gonna joke about it,
have fun, and things come up with our families we
always talk about. So that's what it is. But now
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the great thing is, you know, early on in the
offseason program, we start from scratch. You know, you install
day one again and then you keep on going. But
the great thing about it is now we can watch
more film and we can have more open conversation about Hey,
you remember the Kansas City game, the second series of
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the game, this came up or he can ask a
quot question like a protection. Hey, you know in Dallas,
this situation came up. I made this call. What do
you think about me doing this now? And that that's
the guts, that's experience, and that's kind of what was developed.
I think that's why you saw our offense take off
towards the end of the year. The mistakes earlier in
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the year. I hate to say it, but some of
them are expected. You know, there's gonna he's gonna miss
some things. You look at the Washington game now, I
mean all the offseason program, every time he turned that
game on, it's like, gosh, that was awful. It's and
you miss a ball, a throw here, to Christian, you
miss a ball here, or a protection or a cut
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by the running backs, It's like, well, and it's like listen,
that was week one of the season. This is how
we're going to learn, This is how we're going to
get better. Just make a note of it. I mean,
he's throwing a ball in a live situation in Washington
for the first time with some of these teammates. He's
never played a game at that level. With Christian Kirk,
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he missed Travis on a couple. Well, Travis was out,
you know, he didn't get to play the rookie year,
so he missed all those opportunities. So the speed of
the game from going from preseason games to the opener
and as a season it picks up, so you're gonna
miss some things. And there was a throw or two
here and there as we got going, and there's a
throw in Indie that we missed to Christian and it's like, okay,
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we're a little late with the throw. And then two
weeks later it's even a tighter coverage and we make
the throw. So it's just you grow over time.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
How hard has that been in the league for a
long time to be patient with a quarterback going.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Through that kind of stuff.
Speaker 12 (16:38):
Well, hey, my job's easy. It's easy to sit here
talk to you after a game, or talk as we're
sitting here now, or for me to watch with remote
in my hand after the fact on the plane ride
at home and say, oh, why didn't we throw it
over here or you should have gone over here. It's
the one thing I've always told the quarterbacks is listen,
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we're gonna sit down in between every series or in practice,
after every practice, or when we have in special teams
period during practice, I'm always gonna ask you.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
What did you see?
Speaker 12 (17:09):
And it's my job to correct you or my job
to say good point. And we knew there's gonna be
some growing pains last year, in the first year that
you know that you're it's a young quarterback. I'm also
very fortunate to have coached two of the greatest to
ever play the game in Philip Rivers and Peyton Manning,
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and then the guys that I played with and Caroly
Jake Dilom's of the World, Rodney Pete, Steve Berlin, some
great veterans that are outstanding players that have played a
lot of football. So I was spoiled. And I've also
been in some games where you play with some younger
guys and you will understand they're gonna miss some things.
And I played the position, Doug played the position, so
it's we see those mistakes sometimes and it kills you,
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but it's like, Okay, we've thrown some interceptions. It's not
gonna be the last one. We're gonna We're gonna miss
certain throws, but just keep going. And that's one of
the main things for me, is having played the position
is just to keep them going on the sidelines, talk
him out of the funks, and very similar to the
Charger game, just keep.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Going, buddy.
Speaker 12 (18:14):
We've done a lot of really good things. You're his talent.
I mean the conversation after the London game. There's certain
things you've got to help him get where he is.
But we all knew the type of player Trevor could become,
and that's where he's at today.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Running Backs coach Bernie Parmally has another new addition in
third round draft pick Tank Bigsby. I asked Parmally to
compare and contrast the styles of Bigsby and Travis et
En Jr.
Speaker 13 (18:38):
You know what, It's a similar but a little bit
like take us more downhill in between, more power, but
he does have the quickness to be that home run hitter.
Travis is that slasher, you know, that smooth slasher.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
He's tougher than what people think. He will put his
shoulder now.
Speaker 13 (18:58):
And then I think, like which as far as being
split out, he can do that, Tay can do it also.
Actually he wasn't asked to catch a lot of passes
at Auburn, but he actually has good hands.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
So we finding that out also.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
How important it is that in today's NFL to have
all these different types of running backs.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
In your room.
Speaker 13 (19:20):
To have kind of the big guy, the fast guy,
the guy who can do everything all in your same group. Well,
you love to have the total package. Some guys can
do both, some guys can't. But you just got to
play to the strengths of the guys that you have.
So if we're lacking something, you got to get somebody
that can bring what you're lacking. But it's also it's
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really good. It's like a kid in the candy store.
You got everything you need right there in the room.
It's like, okay, now we can play. You want power football,
we can want power football. You want this slashes type,
we can do that. We can do any type of
football you want. So when you get those guys that
can do multiple things, it bowls well for the offense.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
The offensive line has some moving arts in this offseason,
but there's no one more excited about what they have
to offer that offensive line. Coach Phil Rauscher.
Speaker 14 (20:07):
We have a really good group. I think that if
you asked them, they would tell you that they're they're
the tightest group on the team. Like they take a
lot of pride in that. So there's nothing that that
we don't know about each other and kind of what
our limitations are and what are and what we excel at.
So it's it's just the mix of finding the right combination,
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the right five guys and where that is and and
it may be different today than it is when training
camp starts in comparison to what what the the first
first game ends up being against Indy. It's just it's
finding that mix and and how that plays. And now
are there parts of the puzzle that we feel really
good about, Like Luke Fortner is gonna gonna play center
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for us. He did a really good job and he's
developed into a really much stronger player than when he
than the season ended. So you kind of like change
always happens. Change is inevitable on the offensive line, and
but these guys together as a unit cohesively, they understand
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what it takes to get that job done. So we
feel really good about that.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
At tight end, second round pick Brenton Strange could make
an early impact on the offense. Tight end's coach Richard
and Gulo explains why.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
I think he's done a good job. You know, he's
we can use them all over the place. Really, He's
he's got a big body, he can run, he can catch,
So whether it's in line, split out wherever, I think
we can use him anywhere really, And he's also done
a good job. He's a smart guy. He's able to grasp,
he's able to get a feel for things without him
going to take a bunch of reps. So he's done good. Well,
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you know you have to get in the second round.
You got high expectations for him. So I think he's
right where we wanted to be. Obviously, you know, with
Evan not being here gives him more opportunity for sure.
So he's like I said, he's done good. He's fit
fit right in with the locker room, right with the room.
It was extremely excited to have him here, honestly.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
And finally, wide receivers coach Chad Hall and here it's
an outstanding position group, but there's only one football to
go around. How does Hall battle the egos that could
come at the wide receiver position.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
No, I mean that's my job, you know, And luckily
I know I haven't been coaching long, but I had
that experience in Buffalo with Stefan Diggs. You know, he
was a little bit of a whatever you want to
call him in Minnesota and then he came here and
that was my responsibility and I and we made sure that, uh,
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you know, the great players are great players, and they
just want to win and if we win, it doesn't matter.
If we lose, then sometimes they're upset because they want
to do more. They felt they could help more, you know,
those star players. But no, we're not going to have
that issue. I mean, those guys we meet every morning,
those three in myself, and uh, we're I mean, they're
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everything's going great.
Speaker 13 (23:00):
What's your concern for a.
Speaker 15 (23:01):
Guy like Calvin, who if he plays in the open
whichever expects.
Speaker 8 (23:04):
It'll be twenty three months between games.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
That's a huge playoffs.
Speaker 10 (23:08):
What's your concern about where he could be rusty or
what his biggest issue would be if anyone you know,
dealing with that layout.
Speaker 8 (23:15):
You know, I don't think that there's no concern on
my end. I think for him it's just you know,
that first game back, so he's probably gonna just have
some butterflies. You know, he's you know, but exciting butterfly.
You know, it's just been a while. But other than that.
Once he gets by those nerves, makes his first catch,
I think it's gonna be He'll be back to normal,
you know. I mean it's like riding a bike. You know,
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he's done it at a high level already in this league,
so he's just got to get back on the bike.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Just in this offense. You your first look at this state.
How difficult is it to play receiver in this offense?
Considering the movement all over the place, Guys can line
up in different areas Christian jenside or outside if he
needs to be what kind of what kind of mental
makeup do you have?
Speaker 8 (23:57):
Yeah, you gotta be smart. You gotta be smart. And
I challenge especially at the receiver position, because you can
play any spot. Sometimes you're gonna be the X, the Z,
the F, the Y, it doesn't matter. But the concepts
stay the same. So it's really the bigger picture that
you have to know. And then once you know where
to align, you know the concept. You know the big picture,
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so you know what you're doing. But it takes time.
And I took time for me. I mean I told
them exactly what I did when I got here, got
the offense, looked at it started making note cards and
that's what that's my way of learning, and then I
figure out the con you know. So it's I tell
them how I do it. I give them ideas. I'm
always here to help for any time they come in
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my office. But I also tell them there's one there's
there's only a couple of things you can control on
the football field. Well, knowing what to do is what
you can control. So if you're out there doing the
wrong thing, then you know you're not gonna play right.
And I tell them not to you know, just I'm
not you know, being mean or anything. It's just is
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what it is like, this is your job. Is the
NFL paid a lot of money. If you don't know
what you're doing, not gonna be out there. And that
was one of the things I told today. I was like, hey,
you know two positions when you come back, you better
know three, you know, because that's what we need. And
it's hard, so answering your question.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
You have to be smart.
Speaker 8 (25:19):
But we have enough time where even the lowest common
denomena we can make it happen. And then again that's
my job.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Let's move along to the defense. Senior defensive assistant Bob
Sutton has over forty years of coaching experience, over twenty
of those in the NFL. He was the Army head
coach from nineteen ninety one to ninety nine, and then
started his NFL career as an assistant in two thousand
and That includes two different stints as a defensive coordinator
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in the NFL, with the Jets and the Chiefs. With Sutton,
I started with a major theme for the defense moving ahead,
how do you get more pass rush out of this team?
That's a that's a simple question, but maybe not as
simple answer.
Speaker 10 (26:02):
Well, I think you know, of course most I think
the most common way people analyze pass rush of sacks.
My personal feeling would be that pressure is one of
the really important things. I've used this with players before
when I was in Kansas City at justin Houston and
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he got twenty two sacks, half sack short of the record.
Now he was in there was seven hundred and fifty
some passes in that year. Now, if you get twenty
two out of seven fifty in baseball, you're done. Basketball,
you're done, right and football is it's a mark.
Speaker 8 (26:45):
But the point of it is is.
Speaker 10 (26:47):
To get a sack isn't really the most important. We
love them, we're they're great, but the most important thing
is keep pressure on the quarterback. You know, if you
don't affect the quarterback in today's game, I think is
really hard to win, you know. And in fact, if
you ever look at QBR the quarterback ratings, and you
look at the stat sheet we get after the game,
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the team with the highest QBR usually wins. And so
when you say QBR, you're really talking about affecting the quarterback,
and that's that's sacks, pressures, move them off the spot, disguise,
tight coverage, and I really think that's the only.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Way you win. You know.
Speaker 10 (27:26):
Completion percentages in the last I think are up to
about sixty six or sixty seven percent, that's the average,
you know, So you got to play great team defense
to affect the quarterbacks today.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
A major part of that pass rush Josh Allen and
Trayvon Walker under the tutelage of outside linebackers coach Bill Shuey.
I asked Jim how Allen can expand his late season
success over a seventeen game schedule.
Speaker 16 (27:54):
It's extremely difficult to stretch out over a full seventeen games,
but you know that's the goal right there, because it's
a the.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Production that you want.
Speaker 16 (28:01):
You can't have lapses like Josh had, and he knows that.
And sometimes when you're aware of that, it doesn't necessarily
help the situation. You know, because somebody had asked me
earlier and I said, you know, the one thing about
Josh being a team guy, like he loves being a Jaguar,
you know, last year he's a captain. He wants to
be the guy to make the play that changes the game,
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and he works hard at it. But the situation still
has to present itself. You just have to be prepared
when it does. And so that's what we say, you know,
like we always want guys to do their job. Do
you're one to eleven, trust in the process and trust
the man next to you that he's going to do
his job. And you know, I think for him, the
consistency part is real when you look at the whys
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behind some of that stuff, you know, some of that
are going to be out of his control. Sometimes he
just got to keep going. And I think that's kind
of what he did last year, Like he yeah, sure
there was some frustration when the production went down for
that lull, but he ken't working hard and kept having
having faith and not only himself, but the guys around him,
and the trust that the coaching staff had on, you know,
in him to keep putting him in the position. And
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then eventually things turn around, and they have a tendency
to do that. Like though, they can come in bunches.
You had a couple, you know, you get a couple
of two SAT games and and and things change around
a little bit for him. So I think for him
the thought processes is a lesson be learned from last year.
You started off pretty good, you had a lull, then
you close pretty good at the end. You know, just
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keep keep focused on the next play, the next play,
the next play. You know, you talk about sixty minutes
of football and then you you're taking stuff from the game.
But at the end of the day, you don't really
want to go and evaluate your game at halftime. Right
like that, You think about the next series, the next play,
and then you see where it ends it where it
ends up at the very end of the game. But
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for Josh, just keep he keeps working, He keeps working
in game, he keeps working in practice, and I'm excited
to see him hopefully soon how give us.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
A degree of difficulty of what Trayvon Walker did last
year going outside really for the first time.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
He didn't do a lot of that at Georgia, and.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
You know, his his effort at least in trying to
play outside and maybe his ability to move around as
the season goes.
Speaker 16 (30:19):
Yeah, I do think it's I think it's I think
there is a certain level of difficulty to doing that,
and I think some of the learning curve that he had.
I mean, that's that's real. You know, that's real. There's
you look at the space that's involved. You look at
just the stance sometimes, you know, being a two point stance.
You know, I remember working in Chicago with Trevis Gibson,
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who was essentially an interior d line. When he came out,
he had to work on his stance just for a while,
just to get comfortable in the stance. You know, you alone,
playing the position in the scheme and everything like that.
But then you talk about you know, you're looking at
the angles that happened. The angles are different on the outside.
You know, you can look at and say, well, is
a three technique the same as a live technique and
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it does play out the same and a lot of
in a lot of aspects, but just the angles, the space,
some of that is different. The timing of things is different,
and so you know, on a on a bigger scale,
you can say, yeah, well, if I'm playing on an
edge of one guy, it's going to be the same
whether I'm on the center, I'm the edge of the guard,
on the edge of the tackle. But the further you
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move out, the more space there is, and then the
more you know the space of the game, the timing
of the hands, the timing of the move area, and
all that other stuff changes. From that standpoint, I thought
he did a great job of playing physical in the
run game and setting edges that sometimes gets overlooked until
you don't have the ability to do that. Like those
are one of those things you almost take it for
granted when you have a guy like Josh, a guy
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like Trayvon and Klevon does a good job, you know,
and that stuff. And the guys we had last year,
I thought they did a pretty good job. We had
a good group from that standpoint, So I don't think
we as a staff took it for granted or anything
like that, but you can see where you could almost
you know, naturally do it. But he did a great
job there. He did a pretty good job coverage too.
I know there's a couple of those wheel routes you
know where you know where Josh got caught up and
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trey Von. Though for a guy that's coming from a
down lineman in college to go out there and play,
you know, I can't remember the exact number, but I
feel like eighty ninety coverge reps in a year, that's
a that's a pretty substantial And the coverage techniques that
he played, it wasn't like he was playing the same
coverage technique every time, and so you know, those are strides,
the passtresh part of it. I think he did learn
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and get better as it goes. It may not have
shown up in the numbers, but that was the thing
coming into this offseason, Let's see if we can, you know,
kind of start this offseason where we finished last season
and bill from there and not taking any steps back.
And I think he came in that way. He spent
some time on his own in the off season before
he even got here, and you could tell I felt
like he came in better than when he left last year.
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So now it was my job you know, along with
Mike and with buck and Rory and everybody else that's
here to collaborative, collaborative, to work together and see if
we can keep mentioning him forward. And I think I
think he has now. It's just gonna be a matter of,
you know, the opportunity and see how it translations into production.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Defensive line coach Brinson Buckner had more on Trayvon Walker,
including his ability inside.
Speaker 17 (33:11):
I mean, Treyvon can handle anything because Trey Vunn was
an inside guy that we moved outside.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
So I just let you know how athletic that he is.
Speaker 17 (33:19):
I think, once again, the football maturity, the football IQ
a lot of things Treyvunn saw last year as an
outside linebackers was the first time he ever saw those
as a football player because he's never been in that world.
And I thought he handled it perfectly. And I think
he's coming back here this year knowing, anticipating what he
needs to know, and he's putting in the work. You know,
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he split time between me and coach Shuey, and we
bring the whole group together and we work because there's
a lot of crossover and you just you can see
them the football maturity starting to kick in. You starting
to see the body starting to unlock. Now where it's
not like, oh, I'm finna be surprised about No. I
saw this ten, fifteen, twenty times last year.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Let me to it.
Speaker 17 (34:00):
So I don't think that is a challenge for him.
I think with trey Von, he's a football player, and
that's why we loved him so much. We didn't look
at himself. He's an outside linebacker, he's a defensive We
saw a football player, and I think the game is
built around those guys that can play those multiple positions
with no kind of drop off. And that's what he's becoming.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Who is the d one smooth? Who is who is
that role? Because he had some big key roles in
the late in the season.
Speaker 17 (34:29):
He has some some great roles, and I don't think
we have one because what he was was a unique guy.
But we have some guys who bring some special to
the table. Or the young man out of Louisville who
was dressed the yasia, the gasia is a bullet off
the edge and he's showing in these ot as that
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you know he understands the run game too, So that's
a that's that's something he's gonna bring bring to the table,
you know, inside playing with guys who have guys like
like Dixon, who that we moved from outside linebacker and
moved him into the defensive line room. And he's starting
to get a little bit bigger now with didn't effect
his speed, but he still has his power. So he
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brings a unique skill set that can go in there
and play. So I don't think you really ever replaced
guys like Smooth because they're so special.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Now I'll be undermining what no kind of player he is.
Speaker 17 (35:24):
I think he's a special player. But guys can add
their different flavor to it that can alleviate some of
those things, but just do it a different way.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Tony Gilbert is the inside linebackers coach for the Jags.
He has the league's leading tackler in Foyer Alukun in
his room, of course, but twenty twenty two first round
pick Devin Lloyd was under the microscope as a rookie
last season. Gilbert explained his progression as an off the
ball linebacker.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
He's seen great improvement off the mall.
Speaker 18 (35:51):
And I think for him because he did so much
in college moving around, I think for him just being
a stackbacker was probably it's probably an adjustment, but I
think after seeing and going through his going pains of
the rookie year, coming back in the end and having
some success, Like he actually texts me, you know, our
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first week back and was like, hey, I'm tired of
putting media ocre film out.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
There, and I said, I love it.
Speaker 8 (36:17):
I said, yeah, I want to help you.
Speaker 18 (36:18):
You know, we all want to help you be the
best version of yourself and be the best player that
you want to be. So you can tell mentally physically
mostly he's in a great spot.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
You know. I think he took some.
Speaker 18 (36:29):
Time off to really just give his body and his
mind arrest, and he's been great.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Let's go to the secondary, starting with safeties coach Cody Griham.
Andre Cisco has been in the weight room this offseason.
It looks like but Grim knows the improvement can continue
for number five.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (36:47):
Yeah, he made strides as the season went on. He's
still left a few plays out there, whether he dropped
the ball or this and that, and then we were
working on this on this ots, you know, as far
as you know, putting him down so much strong, you know,
so we get some different looks that he doesn't always
get unless you know, he'll get a little bit, but
off of motion to round out his game better. We're
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making better in the wrong game this season for sure.
And then on the back end, I mean he's got
a gift. I mean, he's got range, and he's got
good eyes, he's got a good feel back there. Now
we just gotta make some of the plays we missed
and then have a big hear.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Andrew Wingard still around here, man, just making plays, big moments.
He's out there some of those three safety looks. So
kind of intangibles can does he bring to this not
only the safety room, but his defense is zone.
Speaker 10 (37:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (37:37):
I mean he's a lunch pale type guy. He comes
to work every days.
Speaker 8 (37:42):
He's a pro.
Speaker 15 (37:43):
He works hard. He understands the whole defense. His job
are the rules, and then that's part of the reason
he had so much success down Then we, you know,
asking him to do some stuff whether it's linebacker that
he was able to understand and then obviously make plays.
You know, we harp on turnovers and stuff like that,
and do we get that, you know, punch out versus Ravens,
(38:04):
which is huge and pick first Tennessee where It's just
stuff we always talk about as far as you know.
Tennessee was spread first, probably quick game and he jumps
it and they throw the hitch and he makes a play.
So he's able to take stuff from the meeting room
to the field. And then he's always just pro, shows
up to work, gets his job done.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
And finally cornerbacks de Shaye Townsend played in the NFL
for thirteen seasons, twelve of those with the Steelers. I
asked him about the mindset of cornerback Tyson Campbell and
his improvement moving into year three.
Speaker 19 (38:37):
You know, one thing that we talked about from the
first year after I saw him and watch his tape
from before I coached him to the next year was
all right, let's find our ways to find the ball,
you know, turning some of those plays into PBUs of
getting the head around.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
And we saw him make some good players on.
Speaker 19 (38:53):
Some back shoulders and fast share his interceptions that he got.
His next step is all right, let's turn these pvus
in interceptions and each year you're gonna see him improve.
You know, the more reps he gets, the more opportunity
he gets to locate and.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Track the ball.
Speaker 19 (39:07):
You know, you see him working at it daily, and
that's gonna be the next step. You know, it's not
just covering the guy. Let's find ways to make them
plain when they do throw it your way, and that's
gonna be our ultimate goal.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Like, that's what he grinds and works on.
Speaker 19 (39:20):
He's working on a little part of the game or
understanding what the offense are doing.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
And that's the thing that you love about it.
Speaker 19 (39:25):
Like he we meet every morning, like Wednesday, Thursday, during
the week, we meet every morning before practice before everybody
else goes, and we watch tape, we watch other guys,
we watch the offenses. So he's taking that next step
to make sure if it's not just the physical part,
it's a middle part that's gonna separate him.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
And he's working at it.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
How hard is that to you know, he had that
you're talking about tracking the ball head submit, how hard
is that to overcome?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
To improve a part? It is improvement.
Speaker 19 (39:51):
Yeah, it's just something that you just got to work.
You know, it's a timing thing or field thing. It's
also understanding what they're trying to do and where the
quarterbacks trying to throw it at. So it's it's something
that's you know, if everybody can do it, we would
all be doing it.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
But it's something that you have to work at and
he's working on.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
So he didn't have bad ball skills.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
He's just h yeah, you gotta work at him.
Speaker 19 (40:11):
Now, you gotta work But you know, some of it
is you know, you look at a lot of guys
in college that taught to play through the hands. So
you got to think they got ten thousand reps of
telling him. What their college coach to him to do
is go play through the hands because that's their rules.
Like you can make contact in college without it being
a PI, but in this league is they're gonna throw
a flag, so you better gets hit around.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
So you gotta do some stuff to coach some things
out of young guys.
Speaker 19 (40:33):
And he's one of those guys that you just have
to coach it out of him, and he's working on it.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Darius Williams a little older than the rest of the room, right,
a different path to the college stuff. So how does
that help him that just he's lived some.
Speaker 19 (40:46):
Life now he has you know, he's lived some life,
but he's not old in football years. You know, he's
a little bit older when his path to get here
but his body might not be as old as the
years that has been in the league. So but it's
just its intensibles, you know, playing with some different guys
that are really good players. And then he has to
be self made, you know. He went to a small
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school and went to UAB, was a free agent, so
he had to figure it out the tough way of
this is what I need to do to be a pro.
And that type of things that you can give the
young guys in the rest of the room is invaluable,
you know.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
And he's that type of guy that he's a pro.
Speaker 19 (41:20):
He's quiet, not gonna say much, but he comes to
work and he'll share with you if you ask.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
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