November 26, 2024 • 20 mins
This week on Jordan & Jake, the guys praise the Panthers for how they responded to adversity on Sunday against the Chiefs, react to Bryce Young's recent play, highlight the offensive lines performance in Week 12 and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Jordan and Jake feel good.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm ignited, ready to go.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Glome stops. He throws at a crossfield. Guess who, George Grouse?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Here are your panther.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Hall of Honor remembers Jordan Gross and Jake Delome.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Happy Thanksgiving, Jake Delome of the Jordan Jake Podcast. We've
been doing this podcast long enough now, man, I know,
I think I know already what your Thanksgiving day looks like.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
But Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Well, I appreciate it, Jordan. Happy Thanksgiving to you.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
A lot to be thankful for, I think every year,
and so yeah, I'm always love it.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I say it every year.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'll continue to say it most probably I don't think it.
Probably this is my favorite holiday.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
So well, yeah, I spoke here Stare because I said
I could tell you what your day is. I do
know that you do two full Thanksgiving meals correct.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Well, it all depends. We do want monstrous one.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
But my wife she just there's something about, well, I
have to cook something that night, you know, because we
go to go to our aunt and uncle's house. Uh
that's where the big big is, but you know, typical carry. Well,
I've got to have something to eat that night. So
we can watch a game, and so there's always something
you know, and I know you're playing.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I've asked you. It's boring. It's a jar, not mashed potatoes.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
I got some little turkey, little ham, little cranberry sauce.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
The basic plate is what you go with.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, I mean we have so much food and so
many otherrvs. And I mean, you know, typical Louisia is
just the fried turkey, the big turkey, the spokedan, the
regular ham.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I mean, just in all the sides.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So have you yourself.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I've never fried one myself.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I've been with someone who has done it, and I
would like to think I helped.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I just said, hey, they call that chef.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, well they were suing me out the way, just
back up.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
We were just there to here hold my beer, exactly turkey.
What are you thankful for, Jake?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
You know what, Jordan, I'm thankful for one health to
my family. You know, Jordan, I'm getting sentimental in my
old age. This is my last Thanksgiving with just me
and Carrie and Lauren and Lindsey. You know, next year
Lauren will be married and I will have a son
in law. And so I'm thankful for him, but like,
(02:31):
this is the last time, you know, our little family
is all one for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
So you're viewing it as a bad thing.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Evidently, loves like knowing this guy's here now.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Nope, nope, listen, love him, love the way he treats
her and all that.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
So we're all good.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Hey did you see the Panthers game yesterday? Uh?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yes, sir, I was there from start to finish.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Okay, I'm not gonna throw any anger towards the Panther
fans that the stadium was completely read to start the game, Jake,
because I can kind of see the frustrations over the
last number of years right at times. But that being said,
I am still dang proud of our team and impressed.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Maybe less than proud.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
I don't know if I deserve to be proud because
I don't have that many good relationship I mean that
many relationships with those guys to know them well enough.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Impressed might be the better word. With the game.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
And I know you're mad that we lost, and I'm
not happy that we lost, but it was a it
was adversarial conditions and lots of reasons to just be mad.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
As a player and man, man just so close.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Jake, Yeah, Jordan, yesterday was I'd like to think I've
seen a little bit of progress the last couple of weeks,
the Saints game and the Giants game.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
But let's call it like it is.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
You know, that Saints team, they were in a bad way,
at least to me watching them warm up that game,
and sure enough, Dennis Allen was fired the next day, and.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
It just didn't seem like, you know, they were all there.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
And then we beat the Giants steam in Germany that
you know, they didn't play the best. I think we
had something to do with it, but we got two wins. Well,
you're playing the two time defending Super Bowl champs, they're
nine in one, they're coming off of a tough loss
a Buffalo who's a fantastic team. So we were going
to have a test and to see the sea of
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red in the stadium.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
And listen, I'm the same way that they have earned
that right and we have not.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
As Carolina Panther football players, fans, whatever, we haven't earned
that right to have that true home field advantage by
the way the product we've put on the field the
last few years. Right, So you know, I flew in
late Saturday afternoon and it was packed at the airport.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Kansas City fans coming in and that's okay. You know
they were there yesterday.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
That team they have two major major you know, superstars
that are global. And I'm just proud the way we fought,
the way we played a clean game both teams. But
I think the thing you saw it, you felt it
in the stadium, Like late third quarter, the second quarter,
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I felt it. Then again in the fourth, like the
fans for the for Carolina they stood up. It was like, okay,
like I see something, I feel something here.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
It just it felt different city. Yeah, so Kansas.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
City, like, man, like this team, like this is not fluky,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Like this is not fluky at all, Jake.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
There was there was audible crowd noise from the Panther
fans that were there in that fourth quarner with all
those sacks and penalties by the Chiefs and two point conversions,
like it was a lively home environment.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Was just such a funny game to watch from home
because it.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Started out with like, oh geez, the whole stadium's read
they almost run the opening day kickoff back. Then the
Chiefs go down and score under two minutes and you're just,
you know, to be honest, you're thinking a little bit
like no is it?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
What are we doing here?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
And the dang Panthers just kept freaking pounded Jake all
the way through that game. We're down eleven in the
fourth quarter. Thought Bryce Young looked awesome and they blitzed
the heck out of him. You go to the dang Chiefs,
you're playing against Patrick Mahomes. I don't care what young
quarterback who you are you're thinking about that. That on
the other side is Patrick Mahomes. If you're Bryce Young,
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you know what I mean. I thought he looked super good.
The O line ran the ball well again with Cuba.
The Cuba scored on the two point conversion and nobody
even blocked Chris Jones and Cuba ran through him or
you know, next to him, by him whatever to score
major like moving in the right like a state.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It's not a statement win.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
When you think of statement loss, you think it's something atrocious.
You know that like sets the tone for more and
more losing. But Jake, the confidence for our guys be like, well, heck,
I guess where we can play with the defending two
time defending Champs Man.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Let's roll.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, Jordan, I think that was the thing that you saw.
And listen, it starts with the quarterback. I'll go and
say it.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I thought, you know, Bryce against the Saints, hey, we
gotta win. You know it was we did some good things.
I thought against the Giants, we made some plays. We
missed a couple late that I wish we could have.
But it was different yesterday. It was just totally different.
He got swallowed by Chris Jones one time, the play
that JT.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Sanders ended up getting hurt on like he got swallowed.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I mean, Chris Jones is a large human being, watching
him in person warm up, getting close to that team,
watching them warm up.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Just he stood in the pocket, the deep crossing routes
that he that he made the plays, uh using his feet.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Get The thing that I liked more than anything one
we had one d ball that I think exavierly get.
I think he's gonna, you know, be critical of himself,
something he probably needs to come down with.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
But we've missed those this year, right, So we missed
those passes.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well, he hit him in stride, but when he escaped
the pocket, it was quick escaped up and in and
he got rid of the ball immediately. And those are
things like so the one to Thielan, the interference in
the end zone, he saw it so fast, feeling's behind
the dB.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
The DB's dead, he's he's dead, and he.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Throws it only where Adam could catch it and the
dB runs through him.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
It's an easy flag. Everyone saw it.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And then on the two point play, the one that
before Tuba scored, when we had the other interference with
David Moore, the play front side to the left was dead.
There was nothing there and they had a rush and
Bryce knew, okay, I've got to give someone a chance,
and he hurried up, got his eyes back, and same thing.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
David Moore put the defensive back end in a stressful
position and he was able to give him a shot
with a dB, hattey, interfear.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Just some of those things that just stood out that
that was different.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
And I think that's confidence and that's coming from playing.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And yeah, I'm proud and listen, tough game this week,
right Tampa coming in a team that's playing extremely well
right now.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
They've had some tough losses, but they're playing well. Division game.
So like we've got some opportunities coming up. It doesn't
get too easy. But that was that was good to see.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
David Moore, he's becoming an Adam Feelen type of player,
security type blanket.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Tuba Hubbard three carries in the first half. I believe
that was it. Or we had three basically total carries
in the first half. Bryce had two scrambles.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
So we just couldn't get anything gone because it was
a low possession game. The Chiefs would score every time.
We would score in just about every possession. So very proud,
very proud. DJ Wantam again. There's a reason we signed him.
He showed up. It makes the past rush better. Ja
Damon clown. I mean it's that she doesn't show it,
but some of the penalties he calls, he calls, the
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holding calls, he calls, hands to the face, things like that.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
You know that it was good. It was good.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You're hoping you could cut somehow scratch a win. But
there's progress. I think everyone is starting to see it.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
I mean, this kind of game to me is indicative
of like, this is what you should do as a
first year head coach and a new team against a
team of like there's so much surrounding the Chiefs. Not
only are they fantastic players, there's just the stigma and
the aura.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
And you know, we played against teams in our era
like that. You know, you're just like, okay, it's the Chiefs, man,
let's go. You know, you like we can do it.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
In ther whole time, you're thinking like, yeah, we can
do it, but also you're thinking, like, man, can we
do it?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
You know, like it's the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
But to have like it's so this was so healthy, man, Like,
like our quarterback played well, Felon came back and brought
like a spark of energy into this thing, and like
Bryce hit multiple receivers, and our defense forced a bunch
of holding calls and they and the Chiefs had dumb
penalties on throwing down Cuba in the fourth quarter for
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a personal foul, and like we looked like a team
that's maybe turned the corner.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Jake, and I just I just.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Haven't been excited.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
And you know, like you said the other the two
wins before, you're thinking, all right, okay, that's great, we're
moving in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Potentially, But to me, this didn't.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Now it sets the stage, Jake for an awesome two
week home game stretch that we just had with the Chiefs.
Now go everybody, go eat all your turkey on Thursday,
and then now you got the Bucks at home. Now
the Bucks fans don't travel like the Chiefs fans, Dude, Jake.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
They barely they barely traveling Tampa.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Well, why would you leave Tampa Bay?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
You know, let's proudis so now we're set for like
if we're doing this thing and coach Canalis and Dan
Morgan are building this thing and like we're seeing this progress, Jake,
Like this game is a significant game with six games
to go, division leading team coming in.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
The Panther fans are in town for Thanksgiving, like, let's go, man.
Is that how you see it?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, one hundred percent, Jordan, And I think I think
you'll see And going back to it, I think everyone
kind of saw it a little bit yesterday, Like Okay,
I can kind of see it, like some of these
guys that Dan signed, Dan and Brant like, yeah, wantam Clowney,
Josie Jewel, you know, Trevin Wallace had some plays yesterday.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Jc's one that's been in the system. You know.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
It's just like, yeah, you starting to see Sean Robinson
I'm some defensive players, and then again, the offensive line
for the most part, protected Bryce really well. Listen, that's
a top five defense that we saw yesterday. Very good defense.
Interior blitz like crazy, Jay blitz like crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
But I thought we did a really good job.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
It's like and it stems from the quarterback, Jordan, that's confidence.
You just kind of sense it and feel it. I
kind of saw it Saturday night at the hotel. It
was after mass I kind of got out, guys are
going to a meeting, and I saw him and Andy
come together and walk by me, and I just kind
of whatever.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Dapt them both up.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
And I don't know, that's just there's a it's a
different confidence you see with him, and I think it
just helped. He had to sit and watch because he
crippled himself mentally, had to sit and watch Andy just
go out and sling it and watching someone who's played forever,
who's won multiple Division titles, multiple Pro Bowls, and like,
you know what, I need to enjoy this.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Andy's enjoying it well, and I'm not. What's what's the
problem here? And I don't know, it's.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
There, We've been there.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
How do you respond and that's the thing. How do
we respond? You know, from from this week's game, he
looked good though.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
I mean, I'm just thinking to smile on my face.
I'm so dang happy for the guy, you know, again,
not happy that you lost.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
A year from now, you.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Can't say that this was a this was a statement
loss in a good way. Like you can't say that
next year like this thing we need to progress, But
this year we can say that. H did you think
before the game, because I you know, I wasn't. There
was there any rumblings about.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
What the starting O line was gonna be. You know,
obviously went with Caid Mays at center.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
So Brady Christiansen, who's done a heck of a great
job now, didn't get any snaps on offense. Was that
surprising or well, I I guess he had some extra
alignment snaps, but correct, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
No, there wasn't. I think.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
And and in watching the film Kate May's you got
to tip your hat to him.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
I think he deserved the right to start.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
To be quite honest, he played pretty daring good against
Dexter Lawrence, uh two weeks ago in Germany, and that's Dexa.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Lawrence is a great football player. He's not good.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
That's a great football player. But having Hunt and Lewis
on each side of him. But no, you kind of
knew Caid was going to be the starter and and
Brady played some y and actually have to play a
little more.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Why Felipe Franks had to because when JT.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Sam went out, So you know, and Brady's so valuable
in that spot. But I think you have a tip
of your hat to kde May's. I think he's really
done a very good job. He's a bigger body. You know,
when we talk about it, I don't understand. I don't
know people truly get it.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
That's a wider body inside.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
You know, Brady is more as this athletic streamline type body.
That's why he can kick out and play tackle and
he can play the why, the blocking why things like that.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
All right, Jake, So we're gonna look ahead at our schedule.
I'm gonna get ahead of myself. Okay.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
So we've got the Bucks coming to town at Philly,
Cowboys at home, Cardinals at home at Tampa Bay, at Atlanta.
All right, all of them are daytime game. Well, I
guess the last game could be flexed.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Still, we don't know.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
We are sitting at three and eight, Saints at four
and seven, Bucks at five and six. I'm sorry, I
said that they were leading the division. Them and the
Falcons are one game apart. Falcons are six and five.
What's we got six games left?
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Jake?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
What's our record? Jordan?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I would be very honest. I think all the division
games are winnable.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
There.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
You I believe that, man, I'm sorry, I just I
just I know what divisions like, right, I think you're
playing You're gonna face a Dallas team. Listen, Philly is
the way, the way they're playing and the way they're
running with Saquan and those two receivers and things like that,
that's gonna be a tough Matt tough task, right Dallas. Yeah,
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they pulled out a win yesterday, but I still think
that's you know, there's.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Some issues there. Arizona.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I don't know what to think because they they really
look good and then next thing, you know, yesterday that
was a struggle fest that they had against Seattle. So Jordan,
I still I think we can win. I truly believe
we can win three more games.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
You know, you said season, weren't you?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I thought we were hopefully you know, a ball bounces
our way this and that.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Now, I said that when our best player was still healthy,
and that's Derek Brown, And I'm not afraid to say
that's our best football player. I think we all know that, right,
and then the injuries we have, but I think and
I don't know exactly how we came out of the game.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
We'll know after the first injury report on Wednesday. But
you know, you.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Don't usually get healthy as the season goes on, right,
But we're starting to get some guy guys back, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I mean that's the DJ want him, I want again.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I'll go back to it. Getting him has helped tremendously.
Getting Josie he missed a couple of weeks. I think
Trevin's starting to grow, Jordan Fuller being able to come back,
Ikey was able to come back. You know, I probably
missing Jonathan Brooks, you know, I only he only had
a couple of carries.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
But that's gonna start to help a little bit. Cuba.
I just can't say enough about him, you know. Jalen
Cocher was a I.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Don't want to say a surprise scratch because I think
something popped up during the week on him and he
just couldn't go.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
But we're feeling coming back.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I mean, think about the fourth down play on Sunday,
the fourth down, Hey, we got gotta get.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
It first, Well, who do you go to? Wide open? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
And then even on the interference in the end zone,
the fans respond to him, the team responds to them.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
He's got some he's got something with him now.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I mean he's there's an intensity he has with him,
you know, and he rubs off.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
So with all that being said, Jake, you're going three wins.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I think we get pull out three more.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Man.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
I feel good about it, Jordan, I really truly do.
But we got to continue to progress. And now to
say we can't get more than that, I'm not opposed
to that.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
I just think division games.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I saw us play Atlanta, man, and I think we're
playing better now, and we had an unfortunate turnover.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
We're driving in the fourth quarter to go to tie
up the game.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
So you know, all right, I like it. We're going
with that. Then, Well, Jake, it.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Just felt good, Jordon, it felt good.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I think we we we everyone saw it now in
the locker room after the game. By the time we're
done all of our duties. The team's kind of gone,
but there's kind of rumblings out there that Bryce kind
of had a little talk with the team, a little
kind of intense talk, and it was kind of like,
you know, it's growth, and we asked so much of
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these young kids. We put them in such a terrible position.
We just here you go and win right now.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Well, it's this is grown man football. It doesn't just happen.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Well it doesn't, but it looks like it might be
starting to Jake, and I'm excited. It is Thanksgiving week,
so I'm gonna let you go a little bit early. Jake.
That's kind of guy. I am all right. You have
fun with your family. Man. Lots for us all to
be thankful for.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
I'm thankful for the Panthers game yesterday, and I'm pumped
for this one on on Sunday against the bucks Man.
It's gonna be gonna be a good environment. I'm exed.
I know that we're gonna have the Panther fans showing
up and it's gonna feel. It's gonna feel right, man
for division games. So enjoy that thing, man, Jake.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yeah, Man, We'll do buddy, and have a happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
You contain all the family, all the kids, and hopefully
we eat.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
A little too much, but that's okay.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Well that's that's on the agenda for me. So we're good,
all right.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Take care,
Jordan and Jake feel good.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm ignited, ready to go.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Glome stops. He throws at a crossfield. Guess who, George Grouse?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Here are your panther.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Hall of Honor remembers Jordan Gross and Jake Delome.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Happy Thanksgiving, Jake Delome of the Jordan Jake Podcast. We've
been doing this podcast long enough now, man, I know,
I think I know already what your Thanksgiving day looks like.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
But Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Well, I appreciate it, Jordan. Happy Thanksgiving to you.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
A lot to be thankful for, I think every year,
and so yeah, I'm always love it.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I say it every year.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'll continue to say it most probably I don't think it.
Probably this is my favorite holiday.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
So well, yeah, I spoke here Stare because I said
I could tell you what your day is. I do
know that you do two full Thanksgiving meals correct.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Well, it all depends. We do want monstrous one.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
But my wife she just there's something about, well, I
have to cook something that night, you know, because we
go to go to our aunt and uncle's house. Uh
that's where the big big is, but you know, typical carry. Well,
I've got to have something to eat that night. So
we can watch a game, and so there's always something
you know, and I know you're playing.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I've asked you. It's boring. It's a jar, not mashed potatoes.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
I got some little turkey, little ham, little cranberry sauce.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
The basic plate is what you go with.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, I mean we have so much food and so
many otherrvs. And I mean, you know, typical Louisia is
just the fried turkey, the big turkey, the spokedan, the
regular ham.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I mean, just in all the sides.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So have you yourself.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I've never fried one myself.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I've been with someone who has done it, and I
would like to think I helped.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I just said, hey, they call that chef.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, well they were suing me out the way, just
back up.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
We were just there to here hold my beer, exactly turkey.
What are you thankful for, Jake?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
You know what, Jordan, I'm thankful for one health to
my family. You know, Jordan, I'm getting sentimental in my
old age. This is my last Thanksgiving with just me
and Carrie and Lauren and Lindsey. You know, next year
Lauren will be married and I will have a son
in law. And so I'm thankful for him, but like,
(02:31):
this is the last time, you know, our little family
is all one for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
So you're viewing it as a bad thing.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Evidently, loves like knowing this guy's here now.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Nope, nope, listen, love him, love the way he treats
her and all that.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
So we're all good.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Hey did you see the Panthers game yesterday? Uh?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yes, sir, I was there from start to finish.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Okay, I'm not gonna throw any anger towards the Panther
fans that the stadium was completely read to start the game, Jake,
because I can kind of see the frustrations over the
last number of years right at times. But that being said,
I am still dang proud of our team and impressed.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Maybe less than proud.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
I don't know if I deserve to be proud because
I don't have that many good relationship I mean that
many relationships with those guys to know them well enough.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Impressed might be the better word. With the game.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
And I know you're mad that we lost, and I'm
not happy that we lost, but it was a it
was adversarial conditions and lots of reasons to just be mad.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
As a player and man, man just so close.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Jake, Yeah, Jordan, yesterday was I'd like to think I've
seen a little bit of progress the last couple of weeks,
the Saints game and the Giants game.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
But let's call it like it is.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
You know, that Saints team, they were in a bad way,
at least to me watching them warm up that game,
and sure enough, Dennis Allen was fired the next day, and.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
It just didn't seem like, you know, they were all there.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
And then we beat the Giants steam in Germany that
you know, they didn't play the best. I think we
had something to do with it, but we got two wins. Well,
you're playing the two time defending Super Bowl champs, they're
nine in one, they're coming off of a tough loss
a Buffalo who's a fantastic team. So we were going
to have a test and to see the sea of
(04:31):
red in the stadium.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
And listen, I'm the same way that they have earned
that right and we have not.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
As Carolina Panther football players, fans, whatever, we haven't earned
that right to have that true home field advantage by
the way the product we've put on the field the
last few years. Right, So you know, I flew in
late Saturday afternoon and it was packed at the airport.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Kansas City fans coming in and that's okay. You know
they were there yesterday.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
That team they have two major major you know, superstars
that are global. And I'm just proud the way we fought,
the way we played a clean game both teams. But
I think the thing you saw it, you felt it
in the stadium, Like late third quarter, the second quarter,
(05:20):
I felt it. Then again in the fourth, like the
fans for the for Carolina they stood up. It was like, okay,
like I see something, I feel something here.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
It just it felt different city. Yeah, so Kansas.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
City, like, man, like this team, like this is not fluky,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Like this is not fluky at all, Jake.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
There was there was audible crowd noise from the Panther
fans that were there in that fourth quarner with all
those sacks and penalties by the Chiefs and two point conversions,
like it was a lively home environment.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Was just such a funny game to watch from home
because it.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Started out with like, oh geez, the whole stadium's read
they almost run the opening day kickoff back. Then the
Chiefs go down and score under two minutes and you're just,
you know, to be honest, you're thinking a little bit
like no is it?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
What are we doing here?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
And the dang Panthers just kept freaking pounded Jake all
the way through that game. We're down eleven in the
fourth quarter. Thought Bryce Young looked awesome and they blitzed
the heck out of him. You go to the dang Chiefs,
you're playing against Patrick Mahomes. I don't care what young
quarterback who you are you're thinking about that. That on
the other side is Patrick Mahomes. If you're Bryce Young,
(06:41):
you know what I mean. I thought he looked super good.
The O line ran the ball well again with Cuba.
The Cuba scored on the two point conversion and nobody
even blocked Chris Jones and Cuba ran through him or
you know, next to him, by him whatever to score
major like moving in the right like a state.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It's not a statement win.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
When you think of statement loss, you think it's something atrocious.
You know that like sets the tone for more and
more losing. But Jake, the confidence for our guys be like, well, heck,
I guess where we can play with the defending two
time defending Champs Man.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Let's roll.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, Jordan, I think that was the thing that you saw.
And listen, it starts with the quarterback. I'll go and
say it.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I thought, you know, Bryce against the Saints, hey, we
gotta win. You know it was we did some good things.
I thought against the Giants, we made some plays. We
missed a couple late that I wish we could have.
But it was different yesterday. It was just totally different.
He got swallowed by Chris Jones one time, the play
that JT.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Sanders ended up getting hurt on like he got swallowed.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I mean, Chris Jones is a large human being, watching
him in person warm up, getting close to that team,
watching them warm up.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Just he stood in the pocket, the deep crossing routes
that he that he made the plays, uh using his feet.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Get The thing that I liked more than anything one
we had one d ball that I think exavierly get.
I think he's gonna, you know, be critical of himself,
something he probably needs to come down with.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
But we've missed those this year, right, So we missed
those passes.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well, he hit him in stride, but when he escaped
the pocket, it was quick escaped up and in and
he got rid of the ball immediately. And those are
things like so the one to Thielan, the interference in
the end zone, he saw it so fast, feeling's behind
the dB.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
The DB's dead, he's he's dead, and he.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Throws it only where Adam could catch it and the
dB runs through him.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
It's an easy flag. Everyone saw it.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And then on the two point play, the one that
before Tuba scored, when we had the other interference with
David Moore, the play front side to the left was dead.
There was nothing there and they had a rush and
Bryce knew, okay, I've got to give someone a chance,
and he hurried up, got his eyes back, and same thing.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
David Moore put the defensive back end in a stressful
position and he was able to give him a shot
with a dB, hattey, interfear.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Just some of those things that just stood out that
that was different.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
And I think that's confidence and that's coming from playing.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And yeah, I'm proud and listen, tough game this week,
right Tampa coming in a team that's playing extremely well
right now.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
They've had some tough losses, but they're playing well. Division game.
So like we've got some opportunities coming up. It doesn't
get too easy. But that was that was good to see.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
David Moore, he's becoming an Adam Feelen type of player,
security type blanket.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Tuba Hubbard three carries in the first half. I believe
that was it. Or we had three basically total carries
in the first half. Bryce had two scrambles.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
So we just couldn't get anything gone because it was
a low possession game. The Chiefs would score every time.
We would score in just about every possession. So very proud,
very proud. DJ Wantam again. There's a reason we signed him.
He showed up. It makes the past rush better. Ja
Damon clown. I mean it's that she doesn't show it,
but some of the penalties he calls, he calls, the
(10:05):
holding calls, he calls, hands to the face, things like that.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
You know that it was good. It was good.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You're hoping you could cut somehow scratch a win. But
there's progress. I think everyone is starting to see it.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
I mean, this kind of game to me is indicative
of like, this is what you should do as a
first year head coach and a new team against a
team of like there's so much surrounding the Chiefs. Not
only are they fantastic players, there's just the stigma and
the aura.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
And you know, we played against teams in our era
like that. You know, you're just like, okay, it's the Chiefs, man,
let's go. You know, you like we can do it.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
In ther whole time, you're thinking like, yeah, we can
do it, but also you're thinking, like, man, can we
do it?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
You know, like it's the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
But to have like it's so this was so healthy, man, Like,
like our quarterback played well, Felon came back and brought
like a spark of energy into this thing, and like
Bryce hit multiple receivers, and our defense forced a bunch
of holding calls and they and the Chiefs had dumb
penalties on throwing down Cuba in the fourth quarter for
(11:11):
a personal foul, and like we looked like a team
that's maybe turned the corner.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Jake, and I just I just.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Haven't been excited.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
And you know, like you said the other the two
wins before, you're thinking, all right, okay, that's great, we're
moving in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Potentially, But to me, this didn't.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Now it sets the stage, Jake for an awesome two
week home game stretch that we just had with the Chiefs.
Now go everybody, go eat all your turkey on Thursday,
and then now you got the Bucks at home. Now
the Bucks fans don't travel like the Chiefs fans, Dude, Jake.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
They barely they barely traveling Tampa.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Well, why would you leave Tampa Bay?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
You know, let's proudis so now we're set for like
if we're doing this thing and coach Canalis and Dan
Morgan are building this thing and like we're seeing this progress, Jake,
Like this game is a significant game with six games
to go, division leading team coming in.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
The Panther fans are in town for Thanksgiving, like, let's go, man.
Is that how you see it?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, one hundred percent, Jordan, And I think I think
you'll see And going back to it, I think everyone
kind of saw it a little bit yesterday, Like Okay,
I can kind of see it, like some of these
guys that Dan signed, Dan and Brant like, yeah, wantam Clowney,
Josie Jewel, you know, Trevin Wallace had some plays yesterday.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Jc's one that's been in the system. You know.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
It's just like, yeah, you starting to see Sean Robinson
I'm some defensive players, and then again, the offensive line
for the most part, protected Bryce really well. Listen, that's
a top five defense that we saw yesterday. Very good defense.
Interior blitz like crazy, Jay blitz like crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
But I thought we did a really good job.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
It's like and it stems from the quarterback, Jordan, that's confidence.
You just kind of sense it and feel it. I
kind of saw it Saturday night at the hotel. It
was after mass I kind of got out, guys are
going to a meeting, and I saw him and Andy
come together and walk by me, and I just kind
of whatever.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Dapt them both up.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
And I don't know, that's just there's a it's a
different confidence you see with him, and I think it
just helped. He had to sit and watch because he
crippled himself mentally, had to sit and watch Andy just
go out and sling it and watching someone who's played forever,
who's won multiple Division titles, multiple Pro Bowls, and like,
you know what, I need to enjoy this.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Andy's enjoying it well, and I'm not. What's what's the
problem here? And I don't know, it's.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
There, We've been there.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
How do you respond and that's the thing. How do
we respond? You know, from from this week's game, he
looked good though.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
I mean, I'm just thinking to smile on my face.
I'm so dang happy for the guy, you know, again,
not happy that you lost.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
A year from now, you.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Can't say that this was a this was a statement
loss in a good way. Like you can't say that
next year like this thing we need to progress, But
this year we can say that. H did you think
before the game, because I you know, I wasn't. There
was there any rumblings about.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
What the starting O line was gonna be. You know,
obviously went with Caid Mays at center.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
So Brady Christiansen, who's done a heck of a great
job now, didn't get any snaps on offense. Was that
surprising or well, I I guess he had some extra
alignment snaps, but correct, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
No, there wasn't. I think.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
And and in watching the film Kate May's you got
to tip your hat to him.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
I think he deserved the right to start.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
To be quite honest, he played pretty daring good against
Dexter Lawrence, uh two weeks ago in Germany, and that's Dexa.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Lawrence is a great football player. He's not good.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
That's a great football player. But having Hunt and Lewis
on each side of him. But no, you kind of
knew Caid was going to be the starter and and
Brady played some y and actually have to play a
little more.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Why Felipe Franks had to because when JT.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Sam went out, So you know, and Brady's so valuable
in that spot. But I think you have a tip
of your hat to kde May's. I think he's really
done a very good job. He's a bigger body. You know,
when we talk about it, I don't understand. I don't
know people truly get it.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
That's a wider body inside.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
You know, Brady is more as this athletic streamline type body.
That's why he can kick out and play tackle and
he can play the why, the blocking why things like that.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
All right, Jake, So we're gonna look ahead at our schedule.
I'm gonna get ahead of myself. Okay.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
So we've got the Bucks coming to town at Philly,
Cowboys at home, Cardinals at home at Tampa Bay, at Atlanta.
All right, all of them are daytime game. Well, I
guess the last game could be flexed.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Still, we don't know.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
We are sitting at three and eight, Saints at four
and seven, Bucks at five and six. I'm sorry, I
said that they were leading the division. Them and the
Falcons are one game apart. Falcons are six and five.
What's we got six games left?
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Jake?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
What's our record? Jordan?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I would be very honest. I think all the division
games are winnable.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
There.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
You I believe that, man, I'm sorry, I just I
just I know what divisions like, right, I think you're
playing You're gonna face a Dallas team. Listen, Philly is
the way, the way they're playing and the way they're
running with Saquan and those two receivers and things like that,
that's gonna be a tough Matt tough task, right Dallas. Yeah,
(16:20):
they pulled out a win yesterday, but I still think
that's you know, there's.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Some issues there. Arizona.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I don't know what to think because they they really
look good and then next thing, you know, yesterday that
was a struggle fest that they had against Seattle. So Jordan,
I still I think we can win. I truly believe
we can win three more games.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
You know, you said season, weren't you?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I thought we were hopefully you know, a ball bounces
our way this and that.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Now, I said that when our best player was still healthy,
and that's Derek Brown, And I'm not afraid to say
that's our best football player. I think we all know that, right,
and then the injuries we have, but I think and
I don't know exactly how we came out of the game.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
We'll know after the first injury report on Wednesday. But
you know, you.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Don't usually get healthy as the season goes on, right,
But we're starting to get some guy guys back, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I mean that's the DJ want him, I want again.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I'll go back to it. Getting him has helped tremendously.
Getting Josie he missed a couple of weeks. I think
Trevin's starting to grow, Jordan Fuller being able to come back,
Ikey was able to come back. You know, I probably
missing Jonathan Brooks, you know, I only he only had
a couple of carries.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
But that's gonna start to help a little bit. Cuba.
I just can't say enough about him, you know. Jalen
Cocher was a I.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Don't want to say a surprise scratch because I think
something popped up during the week on him and he
just couldn't go.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
But we're feeling coming back.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I mean, think about the fourth down play on Sunday,
the fourth down, Hey, we got gotta get.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
It first, Well, who do you go to? Wide open? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
And then even on the interference in the end zone,
the fans respond to him, the team responds to them.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
He's got some he's got something with him now.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I mean he's there's an intensity he has with him,
you know, and he rubs off.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
So with all that being said, Jake, you're going three wins.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I think we get pull out three more.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Man.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
I feel good about it, Jordan, I really truly do.
But we got to continue to progress. And now to
say we can't get more than that, I'm not opposed
to that.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
I just think division games.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I saw us play Atlanta, man, and I think we're
playing better now, and we had an unfortunate turnover.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
We're driving in the fourth quarter to go to tie
up the game.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
So you know, all right, I like it. We're going
with that. Then, Well, Jake, it.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Just felt good, Jordon, it felt good.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I think we we we everyone saw it now in
the locker room after the game. By the time we're
done all of our duties. The team's kind of gone,
but there's kind of rumblings out there that Bryce kind
of had a little talk with the team, a little
kind of intense talk, and it was kind of like,
you know, it's growth, and we asked so much of
(19:10):
these young kids. We put them in such a terrible position.
We just here you go and win right now.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Well, it's this is grown man football. It doesn't just happen.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Well it doesn't, but it looks like it might be
starting to Jake, and I'm excited. It is Thanksgiving week,
so I'm gonna let you go a little bit early. Jake.
That's kind of guy. I am all right. You have
fun with your family. Man. Lots for us all to
be thankful for.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
I'm thankful for the Panthers game yesterday, and I'm pumped
for this one on on Sunday against the bucks Man.
It's gonna be gonna be a good environment. I'm exed.
I know that we're gonna have the Panther fans showing
up and it's gonna feel. It's gonna feel right, man
for division games. So enjoy that thing, man, Jake.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yeah, Man, We'll do buddy, and have a happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
You contain all the family, all the kids, and hopefully
we eat.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
A little too much, but that's okay.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Well that's that's on the agenda for me. So we're good,
all right.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Take care,
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