December 20, 2024 • 28 mins
Welcome to Skol Stories presented by 3M - The official science partner of the Minnesota Vikings. Tonight, Mark Rosen and Pete Bercich caught up with former Vikings defensive back Corey Chavous. Corey breaks down how watching his uncle playing for the Broncos fueled his love of the game, how a comment at a dinner led to his official Vikings contract, why playing against the 1998 Vikings was a great challenge, and how his love for sports has setup his post NFL career. All of this and more is in this edition of Skol Stories presented by 3M - The official science partner of the Minnesota Vikings.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome to Schools Stories, presented by three M, the official
science partner of the Minnesota Vikings. Tonight, we're joined by
former Viking Corey Chavis.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Thanks again for tuning into another episode of school Stories.
Tonight's guest had an eleven year career in the NFL,
but nowadays he's an NFL draft expert and TV analyst
for both college football and the NFL. Please enjoy tonight's
conversation with former Vikings defensive back Corey Chaves. Well, Corey Cheves,
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thanks so much for spending some time with us today
and school Stories. One of the fans love hearing from
you and your energy that you always bring. You did
it on the field to bring off the field, but
give the fans a kind of an opportunity to catch
up to what you doing these days, and it's probably
a lot because you're always You're always running somewhere.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
First of all, thanks a lot for having me man.
I was, like I told y'all, I was pretty geek
to be able to get on there and that opportunity
to talk with y'all. But I actually just kind of
doing a lot of the same things that I've been
doing for years in terms of, you know, going around
to to really look at both baseball, basketball, football, all
those different sports. And I'm still looking at all the
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college prospects from all over the country for the most part.
So that's something that I probably do, I guess until
I have to lay it down for good.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Let's go back, second round pick in Arizona. I think
you were Buddha Baker before Buddha Baker was Buddha Baker,
and you ended up just coming into Minnesota Vikings. Tell
us about that and what brought you here and what
led up to your becoming a Viking.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Well, it's kind of a crazy story. You made a
good point. I was kind of moving around a little
bit like he was at first. I actually played corner
when I got there. They had drafted me to come
in and kind of play that multi dimensional role. I
never played any other position other than corner in college,
and then I ended up starting opposite the Nias Williams,
so y'all are probably familiar with, having played against them
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the Hall of Famer, and we played for a couple
of years. We started opposite each other and I pretty
much played corner the whole time there. So really the
only reason I ended up in Minnesota where I came
on a busy, I think because coach Tye and at
the time Willie Shaw, who you familiar with, she and
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as well Mark. He basically was interested in me coming
to play corner in Minnesota, and Coach Tyson was kind
of messing with me, with me and them when we
had the dinner that night, and you know, he was
asking me what I ran, and so basically he kind
of I was. I told him I'd get out of
bed and run four or five. And I didn't have
any expectation I was coming to Minnesota at all, because
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I had a business schedule to Oakland the next day
and I just thought maybe they were bringing me in
just to see if maybe in an emergency situation, that may
give me like a one year deal. So Coach Tyson
next morning, when I was about to leave, he comes
in the locker room, he having to run into me,
and he had some sneakers in his dand or some
shoes and he said, remember you said you could get
out of the bed and one there, four or five,
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and he threw the shoes on. I said, let me
see if you can do it. So that typical coach
tys man that's why he's my guy, but kind of
challenged me. And so I went out and ran a
forty basically went I ran for coach Knots and also
got still Will done such a fabulous job. And that's
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how I ended up coming to Minnesota. They after that
I ran, I r I guess I ran good enough,
and they said, all right, the contract's upstairs.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Well before he came to the Vikings in two thousand
and two, you were a member, as you mentioned, the
Arizona Cardinals, and the year that stands out of my
mind is nineteen ninety eight, which stood out from many
many Viking fans for lots of reasons. But you were
on the field against you know, Randy Moss and Jake
Reid and Chris Carter and Randall Cunningham in a player
game here. What do you recall about that Vikings team
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and when when we look back on it, how powerful
an offense. Was it that you faced.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I think that's a great question, like something I haven't
really been asked a lot of having been to somebody
who played against that team, and you go into that game.
I mean, obviously it was a fifteen to one season,
but that was their first playoff game against US. We
had just beaten Dallas the week before.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah, that was a huge victory for you guys.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yeah, it was. I think as me and Nils were
preparing for that game, one of the things that we
were trying to pick up on some of the red
zone tendencies and when they would take the deep shots,
and there were certain areas of the field that there
was some tendencies as to when they would go deep.
And even with that being said, Randy still made a
fabulous catch or one fabulous catch over a Nias, although
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Nias came back and got an interception on him. And
then a lot of the red zone rots that I
had to go against against Carter that day, some of
them helped some of the tendency tailed up true, and
they also had some tendency breakers. So the one thing
about it was they were just so explosive. They could
beat you with so many different guys. When it's David Palmer, Lee,
Roy Hoard out of the backfield, Andrew you know, Glover.
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There was a lot of guys beyond just the big
three receivers and obviously Robert Smith in the backfield, and
the hell of an offensive line as well. And then
I think defensively they forced about a turnover. So really
was surprised to see that. Chris Chandler and Ray Buchannan
and those guys, Chuck Smith and all those guys the
next week came in and beat them. But that was
a hell of a game the next week as well
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in the NFC Champion.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, so you bring up a couple of things, right,
he's talking about field position and uh tendencies. You've always
been a student of the game. You've you know, you've
always loved the game. Just tell the listeners how important
that is, because you get everybody has the height, weight
and speed. It's it's that next level of professionalism, let's
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call it. And what goes into that every single week
you know for a player, well.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
They pe you know better than anybody because I think
you when you coach, you prepared your player as well
through that same lens. And I just feel like it's
really more about it's not necessarily I think people sometimes
get it confused. They feel like you watch all this table,
you memorize plays, and that's not really why you watch.
You want to have a feel for what the other
team is doing because of what we're trying to get
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done defensively, Right, I can kind of even when I
listen to you again announce the game, you can kind
of you're you're always talking about it through the lens
of Okay, this is what we're kind of respecting here.
You kind of have a feel you're not You're going
to still react, right, But I think the preparation in
terms of normal you have to do, and then also
knowing kind of what the opponent likes to do and
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kind of what's in that offensive coordinator said, I think
that's important. I thought it was very beneficial for me
during my first five years playing corner because then you're
more isolated and then it's about split and if but
Gouy has this type of split, this type of alignment.
These are the types of routes City likes to row.
And it doesn't mean that's the rowdy's going to run.
You can't get well at least you have an idea
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you can kind of cut the field in half. I
guess it's a good expression, so or maybe that quarter
of the field and half. And I think that's why
it's important, is to kind of limit what you have
to defend. Don't defend everything when you are already giving
the answers to the test. To the film.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Again, we're talking with Corey Chavis walking encyclopedia of college
football players, future NFL players, draft nastymagazine dot com and
breaks it down like no one else. And I wanted
to get into the quarterback position just a little bit
because you always look at the Heisman Trophy winners and think, well,
this guy's a surefire NFL star, and you think of
Bryce Young back in twenty twenty one, Caleb Williams with
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the Vikings just saw and beat for the second time
and looking a little confused. Given this to the entire
situation in Chicago, what are your thoughts about their development
and maybe how these guys potentially sometimes are getting rushed
into action before they're real.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Mark, I think you said the best rushed into action.
Let's remember John Elway's rookie year seven touchdowns and I'm
familiar with that because my uncle played for the Broncos
and I was this little kid just watching them, and
I remember it was him and Steve de Berg splitting
time and he struggled, you know, seven touchdown, fourteen interceptions.
In fact, Gary Kubiak, I think, came in that year.
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He was a rookie draft pick out of Texas A
and M. And he actually played better when he got
in the game, or at least to me anyway. But
and that was way later on in the season. But
the point I'm making is that quarterbacks, aside from maybe
Dan Marino on a couple of others, historically struggled when
they got their first NFL introductions. Randall Cuttingham when he
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first came into the league, they would only bring him
in on third down for Jaworski still playing, and he
was like that in that draft. That was one of
the few years that there was no first round pick
that quarterback the year cutting Gam. Cutting Gam came out
in eighty five. So I think now it's because I
think the fact that you could actually get a bargain
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at the quarterback position because it's not the same rookie
face scale as even when I came into the league,
or with Sam Bradford came into the league. That's the
reason why, Like, it was a good possibility that McCarthy
would have been starting for y'all this year potentially, and
it wasn't like he wasn't playing pretty well in the preseason.
So I just don't think that the quarterbacks have as
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much time because you want to take advantage of the
roster building. And that's the reason why the development has
to speed up so fast for these guys.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Oh you see, what's what's going on with Sam Donald
and what do you see out of him? And I
think he can't talk about Donald without talking about his
meshing with with Kevin O'Connell and and kind of how
he's gotten this reputation as being a kind of a
quarterback whisperer. And the results speak for themselves.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yeah, I got a chance to talk to Josh mcconwn
to a little bit a couple of weeks agoing on there.
I was trying to see y'all as well, but I
got a chance to talk to him briefly, and I
think it's just about one of the things. I went
up to him and said, you know, one of the
things that I like him that Sam's doing this year
for my lands are a point of view, he's just
playing and not worrying so much about the last play,
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moving on to the next play. Even with when he's
made some mistakes and games, he's been able to move on.
And I think he understands that with all the weapons
that y'all have, that he just has to be the conductor,
right And I think that's where he's grown. And I
think some of the improvisational capability that was so prevalent
at USC, I think some of that. I even think
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about that touchdown he threw the second touchdown to Jefferson
last week. That was an incredible play, and I think
when you're just playing, you get to see more plays
like that. I don't think you can win just making
those types of plays, but I think with the comfort
level that he does have, he's making the requisite number
of players you got to make in the pocket as well.
So really it's impressed with how the comfort level in
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his play.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
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three M. Let's get back into our conversation with Vikings
legend Corey Chavas. When did your fascination with the NFL
draft and personnel begin when you were when you're playing
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days with them, you know, in the NFL? Or was
it afterwards? Because you certainly have a passion for it,
and it's it's fun. I don't think we play fantasy football,
but it's really I always enjoy I think the fans
love listening to your takes on all these players.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Well, it really started, like I said, with my uncle.
I mean, I think when I was a young kid.
I think it's a little different when you when your
uncle plays in the NFL and you get a chance
to you know, he kept us involved in it, you know.
And I remember I was sixteen years old. I was
a ball boy in the Broncos training camp and so
many excellent players. You know, you know, when you're at
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a young age like that and you get exposed to
the game and.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
You were Larry Fitzgerald before Larry Fitzgerald Jr.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Right, Well, what a great player he was in the NFL.
But yeah, I just that's probably I would say the
best answer is just because I was around the game
at a young age and I was just always really
more of a sports fanatic. I think probably people would
be surprised that. That's probably the biggest thing that people
from my community know is that, you know, being a
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sports fanatic is something I've always been and that just
goes like it's very crazy that I was a sports
trivia person, right, But I think because I ended up
playing football or that's the final sport I played, I
think that's when most of the concentration lies. But I'm
I'm just a huge sports fan Geral.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So with your you know, Draft Nasty and everything that
you've been doing with the draft over the last couple
of years, there has to be some nuggets, some guys
that you've that you've doted on that have made it
now for me. I know, I remember talking about Aleen
McNeil years ago as a third you know, you end
up being a third round draft picking up being a
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good football player, but there's something, isn't it. There's there's
just something about finding a guy and having them turn
out that makes you feel like a proud papa in
a way, doesn't it. So who is that for you?
Who have you found Corey Chavis that you've been that
you can just say when you hear the name, you go,
I told you, So you know what I guess.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
I guess probably you know the one day I can say, Pete,
to be honest with you, in terms of having to
do so many different players, because obviously I've been writing,
you know, writing books all this time, and so when
you're doing a book, it's it's a job, you know,
like it's not a you know what I mean. Like,
it's like, so you get so many you get a
lot of people. Wouldn't nessarily say wrong because it all
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comes back to, you know, I guess, like how it
all plays out. You don't really go by draft day,
per see. It's more And I would say probably some
of the ones that stand out are players that don't
get drafted right. And there's a number of different guys
you could point to, but those are the ones I
think that that probably stand out the mind and I
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wouldn't necessarily do anybody specifically, But there's so many players.
There's so many players available every year. I think most
of the time, like when you're doing that, the large
majority of players that you're evaluating don't get drafted, right.
I think that's the part that sometimes get confused is like,
let's say, for instance, there's two hundred and let's say
fifty five players drafted. Well, you're gonna have to prepare
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that possibly out of six to seven hundred or a
thousand players. And out of those players, you know what
I'm saying, Like, there's only gonna be two manty five
to let it, so you got to know all of them,
and so that I think it's so many free agents
that make it. I think that's the thing that's fascinating
to see. It's a lot of guys that haven't gotten
drafted and have made it.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Corey, we're in the throes of the ball season, college
ball season, the playoffs, and yet the overriding aspect for
all these teams right now, there are a couple of phrases,
you know, transfer, portal and name in image and likeness.
What do you make of the college game right now?
And would you want to be a part of it
from a coaching standpoint, given the fact that sometimes the
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highest bidder ends up with the best players and you
don't know if you're going to have the guy next year.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Anyway, that's a great point, and I think let's look
at SMU. I guess that's a good place to start.
SMU is basically Miami Southwest. We think about several players
on their defense. No, it's serious. I mean because you
had that connection when you have the coach having come
from where lastly come from. Miami was office coordinating from
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twenty eighteen to twenty twenty, and I spent a lot
of time with him over the years, so I used
to announce games for a long time, and just knowing
that when he went down there and coming back, he
was a coordinator at SMU and left and went to
Miami and came back, so they had some familiarity with them.
And now he because of that connection to Miami, he
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brings a number of players. They're starting running back right now,
who went for like twelve hundred yards, was a receiver.
He didn't even play running back at Miami. He brings
him to the SMU and he's a starting running back.
And goes to twelve hundred in the ACC. And so
I think that that's kind of the advantage when you
can be able to go out a program that was
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by the way, they were the AAC champions a year ago,
but still the fact that they could come and get
to the ACC Championship and a different conference the next year.
I think that's where I think the advantage of that
part of the transfer portal and NIL has made college
football just exciting to me. It really is, because there's
so many competitive teams.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Would you rather play in today's You may stayed in
college for about seven years. You'd have made too much money.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Oh yeah, Hey, there's no way anybody. Hey listen, now,
you played at a pretty day you know, darn good school,
so maybe you wouldn't. But I'm telling you I would
love to. I would love to be in this era,
no question about it.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Hey, Corey, when you were here for the Atlanta game,
I understand you had a photo credential. So is that
a hobby of yours? And how much do you love
being a photographer on the sidelines.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Yeah, I've been doing that a long time. I've probably
been doing videography since the nineties and I probably I
think I added the photography probably in around two thousand
and nine. So I've been shooting games like I do
all our photography for all of our magazines and books,
and then obviously outsourced some as well, but a large
majority of that. I mean, I shoot baseball, basketball, football,
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I shoot games all over. I'll probably go to I
would say, you know, I probably go to more baseball
games to shoot those than even football. So and love shooting.
I shoot NBA basketball games. I do a lot of
photography throughout all over, and so it's been pretty cool.
It's something that I really love and I've tried to
improve on, you know, through the years.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
So, Corey, what's it going to take from your perspective
for the Vikings to kind of knock the door down
this postseason? We know they're in, they'll be battling for
the NFC North title, surprising almost everyone. They were picked
to win six or seven games this year, and here
they are already clinching a playoff earth and maybe a
lot more.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Yeah, I think you make a great point about knocking
the door down, because I think obviously all these years
I heard Feat last night talk about understanding the opportunity
and he talked about the last time they had a
home playoff game that they won with the Minneapolis Miracle.
I thought that was such a great point that a
lot of times what people think they're gonna always get back.
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I'm surprised. I would imagine Sam Donald is probably like,
how did I ever believe I being situation? Although he
was with the forty nine ers. But I'll say this,
I believe that the stretch from that Indianapolis to Chicago game,
that four game stretch. And I ran into coach Floyd
As before the game the other day and I just
told him I impressed. I was, And I'm sure Pete
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would probably agree with this. I mean, this team has
been pretty good this year stopping the run, and you know,
for the last three games yesterday wasn't bad at all,
but those two games prior to that a little bit
of an anomaly when you look at how good this
team has been stopping to run, and I think if
they could stop the run at the level that they're
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capable of the Vikers, I think they have a very
good chance to not only go to the Super Bowl,
but win it, because to me, that's the number one
characteristic in college football. Professional football. I don't care how
much people are throwing. Now. If you could stop the run, period,
point blank, then you have a chance to me and
to win it all. And I think that's the thing
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that I've been most rest with with the Vikings this year,
and that's been their ability to stop.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
The world and court in your career, and this is
kind of the point I was making, how you know
how many playoff games were you in? Because Denny Green
every year, you know, I was fortunate enough we never
had I never had. I played here seven years, never
had a losing season, eight and eight was the worst.
Always were in the mix for the playoffs. So it's
you just kind of assumed that you're gonna you're going
to be there. But every year Denny would ask anybody
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here never been in a playoff game, and there'd be
two or three guys that, you know, been in the
league five ten years. You never that. That just never
made it. So how many games did you play in
in your career playoff games?
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Well, my rookie year, I started two playoff games. We
just went over those and then I put the two
playoff games when we were together, I might have been
a year. I think we were together the two playoff games.
I didn't play in those because I got hurt at
the last game of the season. So that was it,
you know, four playoffs in eleven years, and so that
that I think about. To kill Spikes, a guy was
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in my draft class and one of the better linebackers
I think, a Hall of Fame caliber linebacker. I don't
think he ever played in the playoff game, and maybe
he did by the end of his career, but I
feel like one of the best linebackers of my generation
and I don't know if he ever played in the playoffs,
which is crazy to me, you know, like so and
I don't know. I just I think it's I think
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it's a great point I'll make, like that point is
certainly valid. You cannot anticipate that you're going to get
back just because you made it this year. It's a
very rare opportunity.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Well, Corey, appreciate your time, your energy, and obviously your
knowledge of the game of football and a lot more.
And maybe we'll see you back up here at the
US Bank for a playoff game with that camera on
the sidelines. That would be That would be cool.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Yeah, oh man, I would love to come back. That
would be awesome. Man, I had such a good time
watching Just Well in that fourth quarter annihilated the Falcons
and the kind of leave them. Really that was a
pretty good game.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Stay well, Thanks, Corey, appreciate your time.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Thank you so much for having me man I really
appreciate it. Well.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Thanks again to Corey Chabas for joining the show today.
He's always very entertaining. It's been fun to see his
success at his post NFL journey. All right, Pete, Well,
the Vikings once again took care of business on Monday
Night Football against the struggling understatement a struggling Bears team.
They're now twelve and two, best start to a season
since nineteen ninety eight. Every week it seems like a
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new set of impact players show up. On top of that, Well,
Josh Allen helped the Vikings out the Bills gave the
Vikings the opportunity they needed to control their own destiny
by winning in Detroit forty eight to forty two in
a wild game Sunday afternoon. If the Vikings can win
their next three games, it looks like they'll be the
number one seed in the NFC and host a divisional
round game at US Bank Stadium. But we're getting ahead
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of ourselves a little bit. They got to start with
their three tough opponents starting at well on Sunday afternoon.
Your thoughts about kind of moving ahead on a short
week and getting healed up and playing on the road
in always a tough environment.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Well, I'll say this, if the Vikings are able to
to you know, win the next three or who knows
what's going to happen with you know, with Detroit going
forward or Philadelphia, you can't control any of that. If
if you can win these next three games and earn
the buy and get the home field home field advantage,
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you've earned it, right And Seattle's is a good football team,
they're struggling right now. You get you know a lot
of the lot of the quarterback situation and everything else
with them, Gino Smith, and then you have to beat
a very very good Green Bay team and then beat
the you know, one of the best teams in the
league in Detroit. So if you can go ahead and
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pull all this off, yeah, you deserve it. And and
that's kind of that's kind of my my my, my
point when talking with Corey too, is opportunities like this
do not come by very often, maybe once in a
career if you're lucky as a player. And so I
just and I know that's the problem. I think the
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challenge if you're a head coach and if you're a
player and talking with them and saying, you know, you're
you're so short sighted. It's what's important?
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Now?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
What do we got to do today?
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
You know, this practice, this snap, all this, But then
on the bigger picture side, you have to take a
step back and understand what is what is sitting right
there right that that goal that you had that everybody
has going in a training camp, you know, after the
combine right you have, it just seems like it's one
hundred miles away, but right now it is so close.
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Just don't just don't do anything to to to not
how would I say it, It's just you just want
to do everything you possibly can to make this happen
because you will regret it the rest of your life
if you don't. Because again, these opportunities don't come by
too often. So there's a lot of stake and I'm
just excited to see how this thing plays out. And
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again I'm I'm saying, if they win these next three games,
they absolutely deserve to be the you know, getting the
buy in the NFC playoffs.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
How does that message get across to the younger players
without putting too much pressure on him to say, you know,
you know where you are right now, right they are
in a great shape to get a home home game
and the home field advantage of just kind of taking
it day by day.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I think you can do it. And I think when
I like when I played for Denny Green, it was
it was in Mike Tye I think did the same thing.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
It was.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
It was a perfect example when you sit in that
room and you you ask, you know, how many guys
in here have never been in a playoff game? How
many guys? How many guys in this room? You know,
with these careers, in these long careers, and these great
players that you see Corey Chavis mentioned to Keyo Spikes
never made it to the postseason. So it's not it's
not just a given. And the younger players, you know,
(25:57):
they you just kind of assume this kind of success
comes every year because this is what you do well.
It doesn't, so don't take it for granted. Understand what
you had to do to get to where you are now.
The attention to detail, the being on time lifting on
Mondays after a game when you just absolutely don't feel
like it. All those all that work adds up collectively
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to these victories week in and week out. So don't
waste it. Right, You've done all this work from if
you look behind you and say, my god, it's been
fourteen weeks of season, three preseason games, all the offseason,
all that all that work is led up to this point.
But you're not there yet, right. That's where you have
to set expectations at the beginning of the season to
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say we're not here just to you know, to win
the division. We're not just here to have a winning record.
Our goal is to win the Super Bowl. We all
agreed upon that right early in the season. This is
what you have to do to get there. Yeah, it's
been a hard it's been a long road. It's been
a lot of hard work. Right, Well, we're not there yet.
There's still a lot more to do. That's what makes
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a Super Bowl champion, right. I wouldn't know personally because
I never played on a Super Bowl champion. I played it,
and I think teams that were in that mix and
that you know personally, you look back to ninety eight
and how everything went right, everything went but and just
never take it for granted. So you know, that's that's
the point that these young players have to understand, and
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I think they can. And it's to be able to
be able to come in as a younger player and
make it to the ultimate game. That would be just amazing.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
So the Vikings look to continue their winning ways this
Sunday afternoon as they head to the Emerald City to
take out the Seattle Seahawks at Lumen Field. It's a
three oh five pm kickoff locally, and the TV covers
will be over on Fox, so be sure to check
your local listings for details. Of course, you can also
catch Paul Allen, ben Lieber and Pete Burstitch with the
call right here all across the Vikings Radio network. The
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kfa N, so be sure to tune in with host
Mike Mussman and the rest of the crew leading up
to kick off. Thanks again to Corey Chaves for joining
the show, and thank you fans for tuning into another
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome to Schools Stories, presented by three M, the official
science partner of the Minnesota Vikings. Tonight, we're joined by
former Viking Corey Chavis.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Thanks again for tuning into another episode of school Stories.
Tonight's guest had an eleven year career in the NFL,
but nowadays he's an NFL draft expert and TV analyst
for both college football and the NFL. Please enjoy tonight's
conversation with former Vikings defensive back Corey Chaves. Well, Corey Cheves,
(00:47):
thanks so much for spending some time with us today
and school Stories. One of the fans love hearing from
you and your energy that you always bring. You did
it on the field to bring off the field, but
give the fans a kind of an opportunity to catch
up to what you doing these days, and it's probably
a lot because you're always You're always running somewhere.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
First of all, thanks a lot for having me man.
I was, like I told y'all, I was pretty geek
to be able to get on there and that opportunity
to talk with y'all. But I actually just kind of
doing a lot of the same things that I've been
doing for years in terms of, you know, going around
to to really look at both baseball, basketball, football, all
those different sports. And I'm still looking at all the
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college prospects from all over the country for the most part.
So that's something that I probably do, I guess until
I have to lay it down for good.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Let's go back, second round pick in Arizona. I think
you were Buddha Baker before Buddha Baker was Buddha Baker,
and you ended up just coming into Minnesota Vikings. Tell
us about that and what brought you here and what
led up to your becoming a Viking.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Well, it's kind of a crazy story. You made a
good point. I was kind of moving around a little
bit like he was at first. I actually played corner
when I got there. They had drafted me to come
in and kind of play that multi dimensional role. I
never played any other position other than corner in college,
and then I ended up starting opposite the Nias Williams,
so y'all are probably familiar with, having played against them
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the Hall of Famer, and we played for a couple
of years. We started opposite each other and I pretty
much played corner the whole time there. So really the
only reason I ended up in Minnesota where I came
on a busy, I think because coach Tye and at
the time Willie Shaw, who you familiar with, she and
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as well Mark. He basically was interested in me coming
to play corner in Minnesota, and Coach Tyson was kind
of messing with me, with me and them when we
had the dinner that night, and you know, he was
asking me what I ran, and so basically he kind
of I was. I told him I'd get out of
bed and run four or five. And I didn't have
any expectation I was coming to Minnesota at all, because
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I had a business schedule to Oakland the next day
and I just thought maybe they were bringing me in
just to see if maybe in an emergency situation, that may
give me like a one year deal. So Coach Tyson
next morning, when I was about to leave, he comes
in the locker room, he having to run into me,
and he had some sneakers in his dand or some
shoes and he said, remember you said you could get
out of the bed and one there, four or five,
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and he threw the shoes on. I said, let me
see if you can do it. So that typical coach
tys man that's why he's my guy, but kind of
challenged me. And so I went out and ran a
forty basically went I ran for coach Knots and also
got still Will done such a fabulous job. And that's
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how I ended up coming to Minnesota. They after that
I ran, I r I guess I ran good enough,
and they said, all right, the contract's upstairs.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Well before he came to the Vikings in two thousand
and two, you were a member, as you mentioned, the
Arizona Cardinals, and the year that stands out of my
mind is nineteen ninety eight, which stood out from many
many Viking fans for lots of reasons. But you were
on the field against you know, Randy Moss and Jake
Reid and Chris Carter and Randall Cunningham in a player
game here. What do you recall about that Vikings team
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and when when we look back on it, how powerful
an offense. Was it that you faced.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I think that's a great question, like something I haven't
really been asked a lot of having been to somebody
who played against that team, and you go into that game.
I mean, obviously it was a fifteen to one season,
but that was their first playoff game against US. We
had just beaten Dallas the week before.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah, that was a huge victory for you guys.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yeah, it was. I think as me and Nils were
preparing for that game, one of the things that we
were trying to pick up on some of the red
zone tendencies and when they would take the deep shots,
and there were certain areas of the field that there
was some tendencies as to when they would go deep.
And even with that being said, Randy still made a
fabulous catch or one fabulous catch over a Nias, although
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Nias came back and got an interception on him. And
then a lot of the red zone rots that I
had to go against against Carter that day, some of
them helped some of the tendency tailed up true, and
they also had some tendency breakers. So the one thing
about it was they were just so explosive. They could
beat you with so many different guys. When it's David Palmer, Lee,
Roy Hoard out of the backfield, Andrew you know, Glover.
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There was a lot of guys beyond just the big
three receivers and obviously Robert Smith in the backfield, and
the hell of an offensive line as well. And then
I think defensively they forced about a turnover. So really
was surprised to see that. Chris Chandler and Ray Buchannan
and those guys, Chuck Smith and all those guys the
next week came in and beat them. But that was
a hell of a game the next week as well
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in the NFC Champion.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, so you bring up a couple of things, right,
he's talking about field position and uh tendencies. You've always
been a student of the game. You've you know, you've
always loved the game. Just tell the listeners how important
that is, because you get everybody has the height, weight
and speed. It's it's that next level of professionalism, let's
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call it. And what goes into that every single week
you know for a player, well.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
They pe you know better than anybody because I think
you when you coach, you prepared your player as well
through that same lens. And I just feel like it's
really more about it's not necessarily I think people sometimes
get it confused. They feel like you watch all this table,
you memorize plays, and that's not really why you watch.
You want to have a feel for what the other
team is doing because of what we're trying to get
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done defensively, Right, I can kind of even when I
listen to you again announce the game, you can kind
of you're you're always talking about it through the lens
of Okay, this is what we're kind of respecting here.
You kind of have a feel you're not You're going
to still react, right, But I think the preparation in
terms of normal you have to do, and then also
knowing kind of what the opponent likes to do and
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kind of what's in that offensive coordinator said, I think
that's important. I thought it was very beneficial for me
during my first five years playing corner because then you're
more isolated and then it's about split and if but
Gouy has this type of split, this type of alignment.
These are the types of routes City likes to row.
And it doesn't mean that's the rowdy's going to run.
You can't get well at least you have an idea
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you can kind of cut the field in half. I
guess it's a good expression, so or maybe that quarter
of the field and half. And I think that's why
it's important, is to kind of limit what you have
to defend. Don't defend everything when you are already giving
the answers to the test. To the film.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Again, we're talking with Corey Chavis walking encyclopedia of college
football players, future NFL players, draft nastymagazine dot com and
breaks it down like no one else. And I wanted
to get into the quarterback position just a little bit
because you always look at the Heisman Trophy winners and think, well,
this guy's a surefire NFL star, and you think of
Bryce Young back in twenty twenty one, Caleb Williams with
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the Vikings just saw and beat for the second time
and looking a little confused. Given this to the entire
situation in Chicago, what are your thoughts about their development
and maybe how these guys potentially sometimes are getting rushed
into action before they're real.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Mark, I think you said the best rushed into action.
Let's remember John Elway's rookie year seven touchdowns and I'm
familiar with that because my uncle played for the Broncos
and I was this little kid just watching them, and
I remember it was him and Steve de Berg splitting
time and he struggled, you know, seven touchdown, fourteen interceptions.
In fact, Gary Kubiak, I think, came in that year.
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He was a rookie draft pick out of Texas A
and M. And he actually played better when he got
in the game, or at least to me anyway. But
and that was way later on in the season. But
the point I'm making is that quarterbacks, aside from maybe
Dan Marino on a couple of others, historically struggled when
they got their first NFL introductions. Randall Cuttingham when he
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first came into the league, they would only bring him
in on third down for Jaworski still playing, and he
was like that in that draft. That was one of
the few years that there was no first round pick
that quarterback the year cutting Gam. Cutting Gam came out
in eighty five. So I think now it's because I
think the fact that you could actually get a bargain
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at the quarterback position because it's not the same rookie
face scale as even when I came into the league,
or with Sam Bradford came into the league. That's the
reason why, Like, it was a good possibility that McCarthy
would have been starting for y'all this year potentially, and
it wasn't like he wasn't playing pretty well in the preseason.
So I just don't think that the quarterbacks have as
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much time because you want to take advantage of the
roster building. And that's the reason why the development has
to speed up so fast for these guys.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Oh you see, what's what's going on with Sam Donald
and what do you see out of him? And I
think he can't talk about Donald without talking about his
meshing with with Kevin O'Connell and and kind of how
he's gotten this reputation as being a kind of a
quarterback whisperer. And the results speak for themselves.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yeah, I got a chance to talk to Josh mcconwn
to a little bit a couple of weeks agoing on there.
I was trying to see y'all as well, but I
got a chance to talk to him briefly, and I
think it's just about one of the things. I went
up to him and said, you know, one of the
things that I like him that Sam's doing this year
for my lands are a point of view, he's just
playing and not worrying so much about the last play,
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moving on to the next play. Even with when he's
made some mistakes and games, he's been able to move on.
And I think he understands that with all the weapons
that y'all have, that he just has to be the conductor,
right And I think that's where he's grown. And I
think some of the improvisational capability that was so prevalent
at USC, I think some of that. I even think
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about that touchdown he threw the second touchdown to Jefferson
last week. That was an incredible play, and I think
when you're just playing, you get to see more plays
like that. I don't think you can win just making
those types of plays, but I think with the comfort
level that he does have, he's making the requisite number
of players you got to make in the pocket as well.
So really it's impressed with how the comfort level in
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his play.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
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three M. Let's get back into our conversation with Vikings
legend Corey Chavas. When did your fascination with the NFL
draft and personnel begin when you were when you're playing
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days with them, you know, in the NFL? Or was
it afterwards? Because you certainly have a passion for it,
and it's it's fun. I don't think we play fantasy football,
but it's really I always enjoy I think the fans
love listening to your takes on all these players.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Well, it really started, like I said, with my uncle.
I mean, I think when I was a young kid.
I think it's a little different when you when your
uncle plays in the NFL and you get a chance
to you know, he kept us involved in it, you know.
And I remember I was sixteen years old. I was
a ball boy in the Broncos training camp and so
many excellent players. You know, you know, when you're at
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a young age like that and you get exposed to
the game and.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
You were Larry Fitzgerald before Larry Fitzgerald Jr.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Right, Well, what a great player he was in the NFL.
But yeah, I just that's probably I would say the
best answer is just because I was around the game
at a young age and I was just always really
more of a sports fanatic. I think probably people would
be surprised that. That's probably the biggest thing that people
from my community know is that, you know, being a
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sports fanatic is something I've always been and that just
goes like it's very crazy that I was a sports
trivia person, right, But I think because I ended up
playing football or that's the final sport I played, I
think that's when most of the concentration lies. But I'm
I'm just a huge sports fan Geral.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So with your you know, Draft Nasty and everything that
you've been doing with the draft over the last couple
of years, there has to be some nuggets, some guys
that you've that you've doted on that have made it
now for me. I know, I remember talking about Aleen
McNeil years ago as a third you know, you end
up being a third round draft picking up being a
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good football player, but there's something, isn't it. There's there's
just something about finding a guy and having them turn
out that makes you feel like a proud papa in
a way, doesn't it. So who is that for you?
Who have you found Corey Chavis that you've been that
you can just say when you hear the name, you go,
I told you, So you know what I guess.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
I guess probably you know the one day I can say, Pete,
to be honest with you, in terms of having to
do so many different players, because obviously I've been writing,
you know, writing books all this time, and so when
you're doing a book, it's it's a job, you know,
like it's not a you know what I mean. Like,
it's like, so you get so many you get a
lot of people. Wouldn't nessarily say wrong because it all
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comes back to, you know, I guess, like how it
all plays out. You don't really go by draft day,
per see. It's more And I would say probably some
of the ones that stand out are players that don't
get drafted right. And there's a number of different guys
you could point to, but those are the ones I
think that that probably stand out the mind and I
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wouldn't necessarily do anybody specifically, But there's so many players.
There's so many players available every year. I think most
of the time, like when you're doing that, the large
majority of players that you're evaluating don't get drafted, right.
I think that's the part that sometimes get confused is like,
let's say, for instance, there's two hundred and let's say
fifty five players drafted. Well, you're gonna have to prepare
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that possibly out of six to seven hundred or a
thousand players. And out of those players, you know what
I'm saying, Like, there's only gonna be two manty five
to let it, so you got to know all of them,
and so that I think it's so many free agents
that make it. I think that's the thing that's fascinating
to see. It's a lot of guys that haven't gotten
drafted and have made it.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Corey, we're in the throes of the ball season, college
ball season, the playoffs, and yet the overriding aspect for
all these teams right now, there are a couple of phrases,
you know, transfer, portal and name in image and likeness.
What do you make of the college game right now?
And would you want to be a part of it
from a coaching standpoint, given the fact that sometimes the
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highest bidder ends up with the best players and you
don't know if you're going to have the guy next year.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Anyway, that's a great point, and I think let's look
at SMU. I guess that's a good place to start.
SMU is basically Miami Southwest. We think about several players
on their defense. No, it's serious. I mean because you
had that connection when you have the coach having come
from where lastly come from. Miami was office coordinating from
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twenty eighteen to twenty twenty, and I spent a lot
of time with him over the years, so I used
to announce games for a long time, and just knowing
that when he went down there and coming back, he
was a coordinator at SMU and left and went to
Miami and came back, so they had some familiarity with them.
And now he because of that connection to Miami, he
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brings a number of players. They're starting running back right now,
who went for like twelve hundred yards, was a receiver.
He didn't even play running back at Miami. He brings
him to the SMU and he's a starting running back.
And goes to twelve hundred in the ACC. And so
I think that that's kind of the advantage when you
can be able to go out a program that was
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by the way, they were the AAC champions a year ago,
but still the fact that they could come and get
to the ACC Championship and a different conference the next year.
I think that's where I think the advantage of that
part of the transfer portal and NIL has made college
football just exciting to me. It really is, because there's
so many competitive teams.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Would you rather play in today's You may stayed in
college for about seven years. You'd have made too much money.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Oh yeah, Hey, there's no way anybody. Hey listen, now,
you played at a pretty day you know, darn good school,
so maybe you wouldn't. But I'm telling you I would
love to. I would love to be in this era,
no question about it.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Hey, Corey, when you were here for the Atlanta game,
I understand you had a photo credential. So is that
a hobby of yours? And how much do you love
being a photographer on the sidelines.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Yeah, I've been doing that a long time. I've probably
been doing videography since the nineties and I probably I
think I added the photography probably in around two thousand
and nine. So I've been shooting games like I do
all our photography for all of our magazines and books,
and then obviously outsourced some as well, but a large
majority of that. I mean, I shoot baseball, basketball, football,
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I shoot games all over. I'll probably go to I
would say, you know, I probably go to more baseball
games to shoot those than even football. So and love shooting.
I shoot NBA basketball games. I do a lot of
photography throughout all over, and so it's been pretty cool.
It's something that I really love and I've tried to
improve on, you know, through the years.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
So, Corey, what's it going to take from your perspective
for the Vikings to kind of knock the door down
this postseason? We know they're in, they'll be battling for
the NFC North title, surprising almost everyone. They were picked
to win six or seven games this year, and here
they are already clinching a playoff earth and maybe a
lot more.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Yeah, I think you make a great point about knocking
the door down, because I think obviously all these years
I heard Feat last night talk about understanding the opportunity
and he talked about the last time they had a
home playoff game that they won with the Minneapolis Miracle.
I thought that was such a great point that a
lot of times what people think they're gonna always get back.
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I'm surprised. I would imagine Sam Donald is probably like,
how did I ever believe I being situation? Although he
was with the forty nine ers. But I'll say this,
I believe that the stretch from that Indianapolis to Chicago game,
that four game stretch. And I ran into coach Floyd
As before the game the other day and I just
told him I impressed. I was, And I'm sure Pete
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would probably agree with this. I mean, this team has
been pretty good this year stopping the run, and you know,
for the last three games yesterday wasn't bad at all,
but those two games prior to that a little bit
of an anomaly when you look at how good this
team has been stopping to run, and I think if
they could stop the run at the level that they're
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capable of the Vikers, I think they have a very
good chance to not only go to the Super Bowl,
but win it, because to me, that's the number one
characteristic in college football. Professional football. I don't care how
much people are throwing. Now. If you could stop the run, period,
point blank, then you have a chance to me and
to win it all. And I think that's the thing
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that I've been most rest with with the Vikings this year,
and that's been their ability to stop.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
The world and court in your career, and this is
kind of the point I was making, how you know
how many playoff games were you in? Because Denny Green
every year, you know, I was fortunate enough we never
had I never had. I played here seven years, never
had a losing season, eight and eight was the worst.
Always were in the mix for the playoffs. So it's
you just kind of assumed that you're gonna you're going
to be there. But every year Denny would ask anybody
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here never been in a playoff game, and there'd be
two or three guys that, you know, been in the
league five ten years. You never that. That just never
made it. So how many games did you play in
in your career playoff games?
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Well, my rookie year, I started two playoff games. We
just went over those and then I put the two
playoff games when we were together, I might have been
a year. I think we were together the two playoff games.
I didn't play in those because I got hurt at
the last game of the season. So that was it,
you know, four playoffs in eleven years, and so that
that I think about. To kill Spikes, a guy was
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in my draft class and one of the better linebackers
I think, a Hall of Fame caliber linebacker. I don't
think he ever played in the playoff game, and maybe
he did by the end of his career, but I
feel like one of the best linebackers of my generation
and I don't know if he ever played in the playoffs,
which is crazy to me, you know, like so and
I don't know. I just I think it's I think
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it's a great point I'll make, like that point is
certainly valid. You cannot anticipate that you're going to get
back just because you made it this year. It's a
very rare opportunity.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Well, Corey, appreciate your time, your energy, and obviously your
knowledge of the game of football and a lot more.
And maybe we'll see you back up here at the
US Bank for a playoff game with that camera on
the sidelines. That would be That would be cool.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Yeah, oh man, I would love to come back. That
would be awesome. Man, I had such a good time
watching Just Well in that fourth quarter annihilated the Falcons
and the kind of leave them. Really that was a
pretty good game.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Stay well, Thanks, Corey, appreciate your time.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Thank you so much for having me man I really
appreciate it. Well.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Thanks again to Corey Chabas for joining the show today.
He's always very entertaining. It's been fun to see his
success at his post NFL journey. All right, Pete, Well,
the Vikings once again took care of business on Monday
Night Football against the struggling understatement a struggling Bears team.
They're now twelve and two, best start to a season
since nineteen ninety eight. Every week it seems like a
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new set of impact players show up. On top of that, Well,
Josh Allen helped the Vikings out the Bills gave the
Vikings the opportunity they needed to control their own destiny
by winning in Detroit forty eight to forty two in
a wild game Sunday afternoon. If the Vikings can win
their next three games, it looks like they'll be the
number one seed in the NFC and host a divisional
round game at US Bank Stadium. But we're getting ahead
(22:55):
of ourselves a little bit. They got to start with
their three tough opponents starting at well on Sunday afternoon.
Your thoughts about kind of moving ahead on a short
week and getting healed up and playing on the road
in always a tough environment.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Well, I'll say this, if the Vikings are able to
to you know, win the next three or who knows
what's going to happen with you know, with Detroit going
forward or Philadelphia, you can't control any of that. If
if you can win these next three games and earn
the buy and get the home field home field advantage,
(23:28):
you've earned it, right And Seattle's is a good football team,
they're struggling right now. You get you know a lot
of the lot of the quarterback situation and everything else
with them, Gino Smith, and then you have to beat
a very very good Green Bay team and then beat
the you know, one of the best teams in the
league in Detroit. So if you can go ahead and
(23:50):
pull all this off, yeah, you deserve it. And and
that's kind of that's kind of my my my, my
point when talking with Corey too, is opportunities like this
do not come by very often, maybe once in a
career if you're lucky as a player. And so I
just and I know that's the problem. I think the
(24:10):
challenge if you're a head coach and if you're a
player and talking with them and saying, you know, you're
you're so short sighted. It's what's important?
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Now?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
What do we got to do today?
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
You know, this practice, this snap, all this, But then
on the bigger picture side, you have to take a
step back and understand what is what is sitting right
there right that that goal that you had that everybody
has going in a training camp, you know, after the
combine right you have, it just seems like it's one
hundred miles away, but right now it is so close.
(24:43):
Just don't just don't do anything to to to not
how would I say it, It's just you just want
to do everything you possibly can to make this happen
because you will regret it the rest of your life
if you don't. Because again, these opportunities don't come by
too often. So there's a lot of stake and I'm
just excited to see how this thing plays out. And
(25:05):
again I'm I'm saying, if they win these next three games,
they absolutely deserve to be the you know, getting the
buy in the NFC playoffs.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
How does that message get across to the younger players
without putting too much pressure on him to say, you know,
you know where you are right now, right they are
in a great shape to get a home home game
and the home field advantage of just kind of taking
it day by day.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I think you can do it. And I think when
I like when I played for Denny Green, it was
it was in Mike Tye I think did the same thing.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
It was.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
It was a perfect example when you sit in that
room and you you ask, you know, how many guys
in here have never been in a playoff game? How
many guys? How many guys in this room? You know,
with these careers, in these long careers, and these great
players that you see Corey Chavis mentioned to Keyo Spikes
never made it to the postseason. So it's not it's
not just a given. And the younger players, you know,
(25:57):
they you just kind of assume this kind of success
comes every year because this is what you do well.
It doesn't, so don't take it for granted. Understand what
you had to do to get to where you are now.
The attention to detail, the being on time lifting on
Mondays after a game when you just absolutely don't feel
like it. All those all that work adds up collectively
(26:19):
to these victories week in and week out. So don't
waste it. Right, You've done all this work from if
you look behind you and say, my god, it's been
fourteen weeks of season, three preseason games, all the offseason,
all that all that work is led up to this point.
But you're not there yet, right. That's where you have
to set expectations at the beginning of the season to
(26:41):
say we're not here just to you know, to win
the division. We're not just here to have a winning record.
Our goal is to win the Super Bowl. We all
agreed upon that right early in the season. This is
what you have to do to get there. Yeah, it's
been a hard it's been a long road. It's been
a lot of hard work. Right, Well, we're not there yet.
There's still a lot more to do. That's what makes
(27:01):
a Super Bowl champion, right. I wouldn't know personally because
I never played on a Super Bowl champion. I played it,
and I think teams that were in that mix and
that you know personally, you look back to ninety eight
and how everything went right, everything went but and just
never take it for granted. So you know, that's that's
the point that these young players have to understand, and
(27:23):
I think they can. And it's to be able to
be able to come in as a younger player and
make it to the ultimate game. That would be just amazing.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
So the Vikings look to continue their winning ways this
Sunday afternoon as they head to the Emerald City to
take out the Seattle Seahawks at Lumen Field. It's a
three oh five pm kickoff locally, and the TV covers
will be over on Fox, so be sure to check
your local listings for details. Of course, you can also
catch Paul Allen, ben Lieber and Pete Burstitch with the
call right here all across the Vikings Radio network. The
(27:53):
Vikings Football Sunday pregame show starts at one pm on
kfa N, so be sure to tune in with host
Mike Mussman and the rest of the crew leading up
to kick off. Thanks again to Corey Chaves for joining
the show, and thank you fans for tuning into another
edition of Skull Stories presented by three M the official
science partner of the Minnesota Vikings for Pete Pursage. I'm
(28:14):
Mark Rosen, and we'll see you all again next week.
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