2022 Week 10 Recap: Big Homer Week

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The Around the NFL podcast in the top quartile of
the upper quartile of podcast that's timely from the Chris
Westling podcast studio. It's Around the NFL the flagship show.
Week ten. I'm Dan Hansas. That whoo was Greg Rosenthal

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also Mark Sessler in the house? What is up my heroes?
What's up my heroes? It's wild Sunday. You guys not
talk at the same time. We've only been We're in
show sixty two and we're still doing that. Uh, you
know what interesting this season in general? Um, and I've

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heard from friends who are hardcore football fans, some people
complaining a little bit about the product at times this year.
Maybe this season the entertainment values a little more up
and down. And then something like Week ten happens. And
this was an excellent week with a lot of great games.
We're gonna get to all of them, including oh, listen
to that. You know that is of course, you know,

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we do it. That's it, that's all we get. That
was like, yeah, bring it back. I thought we were
getting lighting. Where's the lighting? The game of the year siren,
that's what that was? Multiple games? No, there can only
be one. What's the what's the multiple Well, you called

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the what you called the Lions victory today one of
the games of the year about twelve minutes ago before
the show, know, the game of the year. Obviously, Wait,
where's Justin? Justin? What has happened? You know, you know
it's on my radar. Want to make sure that Mark

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specifically is treating you well behind the glass, Um, But
I was promised the light show during the siren sequence. Yes, one,
a small overlooked detail that we if you want to
bring it back at any point we can, it will
then be ready. Alright, See that's communication anyway. You could
have done that on our messaging client, but I think

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it's It's transparency is one of the reasons why the
listeners love us, um anyway, because like, if I did
it now, would we get it in about five seconds
maybe a little bit. It's gone, it's over now, it's over. Now,
We're going to do it. But let's get into all
the games. We promise you this episode is gonna be great,

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starting with the Game of the Year light show or no,
Alan back to pass in the pocket to the end zone. Yes,
Patrick Peterson, hi an He slides down the Minista Vikings
eight and one, and they come to Buffalo and they
walk up on Stefan Dicks and the Buffalo Bills the crow.

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It is absolutely stunned. Oh the bongos, Paul Allen and
Pete Verstas the call k f A. And we're gonna
hear more from then because this was without a doubt.
There were a lot of good games this year, and
they've been very good games throughout the season, but nothing

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matched this game in terms of the vibes they heat.
Darryl Johnson, calling the game for Fox, said, this has
been the most amazing two minutes of football I have
ever seen in my entire life, referring to the end
of the fourth quarter, that guy's got three rings. Patrick
Peterson intercepted Josh Allen with one twelve remaining in overtime,

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and the Minnesota Vikings roar back from multiple scores down
in the second half to beat the Buffalo Bills thirty
three to thirty. UH in the A. T and era, gentleman,
UH two thousand thirteen to present. I know there have
been great games. As I'm watching this game, and specifically
really end of the third quarter on I don't know

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if I've ever seen a crazy or more exciting, more
intense game between two teams who understood the gravity of
the moment. Here amazing to watch. It also might go
down as one of the great receiver performances of all time.
I mean, kirk Cousins is showing up big in late
spots this year. You need to drive from kirk Cousins.
He goes and gets it, and he's partly done that

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by putting the ball up. The last three or four
weeks we've been talking about and being more confident giving
the fifty fifty balls to Justin Jefferson, be more aggressive.
So with that out of the way, they don't win
this game without Justin Jefferson. The sheer quantity of ridiculous
catches in huge spots is just preposterous. Next Gen Stats
had had a number that that all time high of

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receptions on throws that had a under fifty percent completion
expected on on a throw that wasn't expected to be
completed was six until this game in the Next Gen
Stats era, and he had nine of those catches today
of where you don't expect it to be a catch,
but kid Kauzi, Kirk Cousins and Justin Jefferson get it
done together. I think part of it is Cousins has
been throwing the ball to him beautifully. There were a

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couple of absolute app ropes in this game. And on
the flip side, Josh Allen, he has the six interception
this season of inside the opponent's thirty yardland, that's the
most in the NFL. Four of the five of those
have come in the last two weeks. And so we've
seen We've seen Josh Allen, who's you know, superhuman for
much of the season, go through little many slumps in

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the past, and I think he's in one right now
to some degree. Still marvelous, absolutely. I mean, remember, this
was a guy that late in the week it looked,
like we talked about on Thursday Show, doesn't look like
he's gonna be playing in this game. And then all
of a sudden, he's trending upward throughout the weekend, and
then he's on the field and he's throwing ropes too,
and he's putting up big numbers. And yet, yeah, the

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inner the interceptions, putting the ball on the ground, um, fumbles, um.
I want to the way to get into this game,
because every once in a while you do have crazy games.
Like this, I took out a card holding in my
right hand, and I starting from one one to play.
In the third quarter, Tyler Bass for the Bills kicks

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the field going to make it to that point, this
was somewhat a normal game like it was playing out.
How many would have expected Minnesota team that had jumped
out to this big seven and one start, But are
they really on the level of the top contenders? The
Bills with Josh Allen looking like a team that could dominate.
And then from that point on, a big game changing

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play is Dalvin Cook going eighty one yards on the
ensuing possession on the first drive, first play of the drive.
That makes been doing that about like once a week lately.
That right there, and that gets forgotten now, But that
changed this game because all of a sudden went from
this game's over to all right, they have a pulse.
Then uh, In the ensuing possession, Josh Allen throws his

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first of two end zone interceptions in this game to
Patrick Peterson, and Minnesota follows that up with a six
six minute drive where they convert a fourth and six
at midfield to guess who Hawkinson. T J. Hockenson has
been a huge pickup for them that missed the P
A T which makes three and you're thinking, oh, that
is so Vikings. But that made the drama even more

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so because after a Buffalo three and out, Minnesota goes
twelve for seventy five Greggy, and that's when the amazing
and there are many great catches by Justin Jefferson, but Jefferson,
Justin Jefferson in a fourth and eighteen near midfield, makes
a one handed snag that you know, people always immediately
judge things against the O. B J. But it's right
up there and the fact that the stakes on that play,

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what's ironic about that is that didn't lead to points
Greggy because on the fourth it doesn't look the more
you looked at, the more replays of it that you saw,
when he was coming down at an angle with the
defender on his wrist, it's like, how is the ball
still on his head? The mc schre painting of catches.
But that that drive ends in an insane way because um,

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they have a free play the Vikings at the goal
line on an off sides for Buffalo and Dalvin Cook
is by himself for the go ahead touchdown and he
just drops it and it's a free place, so you
get the ball back. Would have been the all the
all time Cadence clutch play of all time. Kirk Cousins
is beautiful bass Cadence. He was mad at me for
not making the Cadence rankings. Gets that offside and that

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the Cadence would have won the game if Coo Cook
drops the ball. And then on fourth and goal from
the half yard line, uh, Kirk Cousins gets stuffed. It's
very close. But then Mark, on the next play, this happens.
Josh Allen puts Gabe Davis in motion and Davis was
behind Allen and he tried to push him. He didn't

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get out of it. He didn't get out. He did
to get out. That's a safety kid to us. Yes,
even much little straight down, get a little over excited
the quarter, rock off the snow. You know someone died
on the ball in the end song are you kidding me?

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Just happened? Oh wow? The shades of Mark Charlie Steiner
in the eighties six Divisional playoffs Jets Browns where he said, oh,
the Jets are gonna win this game, and they didn't
because what they forgot was that there're still ninety seconds
or so, the Bills go down the field. They kicked
the field goal to force overtime, and only because Gabe
Davis has a sideline catch that they rule a catch

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that wasn't actually catch. Another highlighter play that I had
to mention here. And then you get to overtime. Minnesota
kicks the field goal and then Buffalo mark is set
up first and ten at the Minnesota twenty. They go
right down the field and you're thinking, after all of this,
how Vikings is this gonna be that they're gonna lose
this game. Josh Allen does it again. He tries to

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force a pass over the middle when he doesn't have to.
Patrick Peterson, who by the way, is still making huge
plays in this league, in two, makes the interception game
over stunner Vikings for real, Bills go from best team
in football seven days ago to third place. And it's
amazing how quickly the scenery changes. And I mean I
mentioned those Allen interceptions of late. You know, in these

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spaces that count where it should be the opposite from
Josh Allen, and I mean, you know, for me, it's
like this Vikings team, which for years I thought it's
just been the same team season after season. It's just
they're fine. They're good, They're not great. Uh, they have
won seven straight one score games, which I I believe
I heard today has never happened in the NFL. And

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that is a wild situation. And but this is this
is any team like this on a run where the
records started to compile, and it's you struggle to believe
if they're in that elite class. I don't know if
they're an elite team right now, but I'll tell you
something like win like this changes everything that we should
think about the Vikings because they went into Buffalo totally
hung with him, made life difficult for Josh Allen and

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key situations, and you have a quarterback in a wider
seaver whose chemistry in Unison is as good as anything
we have in the NFL At the moment, I mean,
what does it even meanly they're gonna clinch the NFC
North potentially before December. I mean, it's it's possible that
there's still got a massive lead. They're they're playing the
big boys this week. And this was a perfect pick
for Game of the Year because it's one of these

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seventeen point comebacks. This season is defined by these monster
comebacks and Kirk Cousins. This season has been defined by
you need to drive. You gotta drive from Kirk Cousins
because Justin Jefferson is right there with the most valuable
players at any position in the league and is helping
helping them get over the finish line, like he hasn't
played that well against some bad teams, and then at

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the end of these games, Cousins gets it done. I
don't think it changes how I feel too much about
either one of these teams. Maybe it just shows that
the Vikings got a little bit of hood spot but
were like an impenetrable a couple of weeks ago. Yes,
actually it does change how I feel about Buffalo the
last couple of weeks the Turnovers, which is now three
weeks running for l and we've talked about on the
show a lot that he's always been a dude that's

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gonna give you a chance, but right now he's on
a little bit of a cold streak. Like if you're
at the blackjack table and the dealer keeps on pulling
twenty one, and it's it's a situation for me where
this is not the night to be talking about regression
and the vikings. But because you're saying this is on
president and no one's won seven straight games in this fashion,
I guess you could make that call. But I just

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got Sometimes you just gotta give a team it's flowers
and be like, that's an incredible comeback in a great win.
And Kirk Cousins, by the way, for most of this
game looked like he was having all his Cousins primetime
big spot type games. And he just flipped the switch
and and I just gotta give him a lot of credit.
Let's hear from Kirk Cousins. Who does he have plans?
What's his nickname? Now? It's it's um Kirky Chains? What

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is it? Help me out anybody? Kerk Thuggins. So it's
all over the place. I was giving him. I've been
giving him kid Kuzzi for a while. That's pretty good high.
But that's been taken kind of but not really. It's
a good one. Uh. Will he be topless on the
plane tonight? I think we reached the mountaintop last week.
Got a load that there's I don't know that there's

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anywhere to go from here. Someone else to take the mantle, uh,
because I think he doesn't have a choice on this. Well,
we know something's happening on that plane. That shows great
decision making though he knows when a bit has like
reached it. We could use one of those guys Apex.
That's the new Kirk. Though two more Kirk Cousins place
quickly would just be the second that the second and

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one in overtime with a free rusher barreling down on
him and he gets it off when he would hold
onto the ball and take a tack unbelievable. And then
the play that set them up inside the five yard
line in overtime that was more of a great throw
than just a great catch by Jefferson. That was an
absolute time. He has this because he throws to where
the receiver is gonna be that. Not all quarterbacks have

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that ability to do that or the guts to do that.
He does it all the time, so even with a
pass rush bearing down on him, he can hit you
in stride. I was thinking of he had a scramble
inside the five yard where he put his shoulder down
and it's like, I'm not saying that Kirk. I we
don't know Kirk Cousins. But this is why he's getting
the chains and everybody's into him. You're winning and you're
showing that you're a dude and you're a member of
the team. Really cool. Uh not. By the way, this

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is another and I don't want to bring this up
because nobody is covered in glory on this another lock
apocalypse and uh the Cincinnati Zoo and it came strong
on this one. Nick was Nick was very confident this one.
Do we have what Nick had to say going into
this game. There's no way the Vikings go into Buffalo

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and take care of business in November. It's gonna be cold,
it's gonna be rainy, and the Bills take care of business. Well, listen,
I didn't think the Vikings were gonna win this game either.
Once Josh Allen was playing, I mean he also took
a lot of I did lock it up. It took
a lot of shots at me. I mean, he's been
a guy who's mentioned a lot this year that you
gotta have guts in and pick a game that you

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know is like a close spread or whatever, and there's
rose they'll settling scores. It's just funny because if we
knew how long Josh Allen was starting this game. This
wouldn't even have been in the lock zone because the
Bills would have been that big of a favorite. That's
how much it moved to before the game, and yet
here it is. Justin Nick on Twitter today to the
a t N lock it Up Twitter account when they

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tweeted this out, said he thought Case Keenan was going
to be starting, and that's why he locked it up
because keen wouldn't have made those any of this game
losing turnovers at the end, and it's a very solid point.
That's Nick's. That's a great Nick move. Alright, Well listen
before we can't go in on Nick too hard because,
like I said, that's the first event many misses in

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the prediction game. I've already lost my TNF prediction. Let's
move on. So we gave that game a little extra
love because obviously it deserved it. But there was there
are a bunch of really good games, including the first
ever NFL game in Germany. Let's check that one out
early this morning. White swings of motion, empty backfield, Brady looks,
Brady looks. Brady looks back to his white laugh car

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touched tavel rock crush Godwin touchdown, bucking airs, we lead
twenty two three week Levroard and Munich. But there is
a flag in the end zone on that right side,
and I think they're gonna try to call it offensive
pass interference Seahawks, like penal is gonna be all the
Bucket ears offensive past interference? Where's all the players a touchdown?

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Oh say that? In Sherwin, John hush the Munich ge
decker half with a call w f U S. I
love it. This feels like a I'm getting the feeling
it's gonna be a big homer week for the radio guys.

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Two weeks and two games so far. Um Chris Godwin,
they need him to step up, and he did in
this game with a touchdown and Tom Brady remained undefeated
abroad by throwing two touchdown passes. The Bucks beat the
Seahawks sixteen. Like I said, first game ever in Germany,
at in Munich at the Allian's very nice facility at

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least from the television, and uh Greg this game was
very Then We're gonna get to the Packers a little
bit too, and Aaron Rodgers, these the old guard backs
against the wall, some big performances. The Bucks all of
a sudden, pretty good shape at five and five, hitting
their body. They're in great shape. They're gonna host the
playoff game. I'm sorry Falcons fans or Panthers fans. I

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know Saints fans have no belief left there at five
and five in this game had all the things that
you wanted to see. It wasn't about Tom Brady. Tom
Brady played well enough, like he has played all season.
It was about both lines just pushing the Seahawks around.
They ran all over him. The drive to close the
game out when Seattle closed the lead to six was

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so impressive that they just run all over Seattle. They
did it all game. They had a hundred and sixty
one yards and then on the other side they were
harassing Gino Smith. They hit him six times while tom
Brady sitting back, are going pat pat pat. Almost a
gholston for the Seattle defense. A gholston is when you
get no sacks, no QB hits. There was one QB
hit on Tom Brady, and there were a lot of

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plays where he got to get to his third read
and then let Godwin make a play, Julio Jones makes
a play. It was just really impressive. In the trenches,
they look like the tougher team. And if they got
that going, like they're gonna be a tough team. You've
been trying to make Gholston a thing for ten years
on the show. I mean it is a thing to
me that I don't expect it to ever like carry on.
I think there was about a three year period where

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I gave it up and now I'm bringing it back.
It's like I R Boomerang. It's got about the the
shelf life of that. One's got some legs, Like I've
heard that I was going to take off. I think
like that needs a word. No quarterback hits, no sacks,
that needs a word, and uh, you know ghost works.
It was, um a really a really fun game because

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like the game we just talked about previously, it felt
like a game in hand. Tampa Bay is up one
three and uh, Greg, I know you'd believe me, um,
but uh, I don't have a problem with watching Gino
Smith do well. I'm okay with it. And you know what,
how could you not be impressed by what he does.
I know he had the big fumble that helped put
Seattle in a hole in this game, but those two

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drives in the second half late in the game, so
many money throws like right on the and good decisions
and going through his progressions. He if you get the
ball back in his hands, I could have saw them
saw Seattle steel in this game. It didn't work out
that way. The defense couldn't get the stop. But I
just want to throw some flowers the way of Gino,
I mean. And also it was the Seahawks going for

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it on fourth down, the fourth down pass to Tyler Lockett,
the fourth the one touchdown shots too. Marku's good when
like that Gino every week, whether there's whether he stopped
or not in the team stop, but he continues to
make some beautiful throws. And to me, this was the
Bucks offense that we had been sold going into the season,
and it started with the ability to run the ball.

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They were able to control this game early by by that,
and it's like we hadn't seen that in weeks and weeks.
And Brady, to me, is not the problem in that offense.
When they struggle. He can see he's throwing great, he
looks awesome, he looks like Tom Brady. I feel like
this could be now. I don't want to get sucked
in here. Greggy on the Julio Jones tip again because
we all did that Julio Clone coverage. I know he

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looked faster making he is moving really well. And if
Godwin is getting better, obviously Mike Evans and the running
game is better with it for NET being minimized a
little bit. I mean, this week, you don't have to
I feel like you don't have to swin hard to
see Tampa Bay making a big push in the second half.
I could, I could. You can really see. Tom Brady
knows better than anyone. All that matters is how you
play in that single elimination tournament, and it helps to

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be playing well in a few weeks before to feel
good about those things. They're injuries that they've had have
mostly bounced back. Their defense is healthier this week than
they've been all season. A Keem Hicks was out there
making plays. Winfield was back making plays. Carlton Davis is
mac back playing plays for Net's injury in this game,
I think helped them out for the most part. I
think Rashad White was already need more work, and I

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think he was more explosive, but there were a couple
of plays. And Brady has been playing well, but he
hasn't been in sync with his receivers, and there were
a couple of plays in this game where they just
weren't making those plays in previous week. Some of them
were the third and two runs and that wasn't Brady,
but the others were that played as Scottie Miller on
third and two where it just sleeping beautiful throw by
Brady under pressure. And then another play where Tom Brady

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has to improvise and finds it to Godwin who makes
the right read with Brady. That they weren't making those
plays they did today. I I think they're a very
scary team. You look at they're going to their by
so let's just get healthier. And then their schedule really
is relatively soft down the stretch. So you're right, they're
gonna win the division. They're gonna host a playoff game.
And if you get this version of Tampa Bay, I
told you ever won this division was gonna win a
playoff game on our Friday Funt Show. It's not really

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that daring of a prediction. If you get to take
you up on that one. I mean, like, you know,
that's fine. But ten days ago we were talking about
this team is a moribund offense that couldn't get out
of its own west well search of itself. I mean
they were, we were one of them, were frustrating that. Tonight,

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my friend good buddy Um Shellin patel Um, big time
bucks fan, big time listener of the show went flew
from Tampa, UH to Germany for this game. Sent me
a selfie on Friday night with Rich Eisen. I said, oh,
you you know, say your friends and me. He said,
oh no, I didn't think to do it. I was like,

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that's fine. Um. But Shellin sent a video to on
our fantasy thread this morning of him in the stadium UM,
and he wrote, nobody leaving the blanking stadium. Game ended
ten minutes ago. Incredible vibe. And we all on this
show we're we're invested in the success of the game
overseas because that's given the overseas audience has given so

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much to us. UM, So it's very cool to see
this game go off in Munich and Tom Brady had
words along those lines as well. Yeah, that is one
of the great football experiences I've ever had. So it
says a lot for twenty three years in the league
and for a regular season game and I think the
fan turnout was incredible. It felt like a very electric
from the time we took the field. So at the

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end of the game with them singing Sweet Caroline and
uh Country Row, that was that was pretty epic. So
I think everyone who's a part of that experience I
got to I got to have something pretty pretty amazing
memory for their life. So thank you for hosting us.
We appreciate it. Thank you. I went to investigate the
take me Home, Country Road, Country Roads scenario because like

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they were playing it as Tom Brady received like a
shotgun snap at one point, but it is it is
for years been a massive sing along hit in Germany
during Octoberfest, and so they just they brought it to
would Yeah, they should make that an annual thing. I
mean you could see like Brady's eyes were kind of

(23:55):
shining there smiling too. Again, it was they also one,
I mean it's been a while for it was emotional.
And and kyleeen Wolfe, who I think we're gonna hear
at the end of the show, she she sent in
a missive from from Germany and she had a similar take,
which was that it was an emotional experience. I think
for everyone there that the singing and everything that happened

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that it's still going on tent to fifteen minutes after
the game, Like, I don't think the German fans could
have done any better. It's awesome. I hope we get
over there with them next year. Yeah, that sounds fun.
And Mark when we were down on the field in London,
I think you were in conversation with m j D
at the time and they were doing Sweet Caroline, which
I don't like the song. I'm not a Neil Diamond guy.

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I don't like busting sports teams UM, but that crowd
that song. I was getting goose bumps because they were
singing at the top of their lungs that song and
everybody had just huge smiles on their face, seventy fans
the International series, and this is gonna sound like we're
you know, companymen or I am is a huge hit,
like and this is something they need to keep pushing

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and I know they will. I think it's it's also
that you know, historically the passion at their football UM
games nationally and all through Europe is insane, and they
bring that to this and this German crowded you could
tell on the television was absolutely off the hook, and
like I'm sure many spirits were in Bibe going in
and who knows what else, And I love it, And

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like everyone from NFL network seemed too, as you called it,
Greg cited as like almost a spiritual awakening for some reason.
So maybe they never come back to America. They probably will,
but it seems like and we don't. We always give
like the UK and the you know, Canadian and Australian listeners. Okay, yeah, yeah,
well you know you guys, Germany. Germany's right there, there

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are number five country in the world. We love you
German fans. Thanks for listening. All right, Uh, we're just
getting started. We're just getting started. Greg's more of a
deep dive on our listener data. Uh, stay right there,
all right, welcome back. Before we get to the next game,
we have some developing news, uh, coming out of Minnesota,

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of course, or I say over Minnesota, UM, Greg Rosenthal, Yeah,
Kirk Cousins wasn't lying. He has made the decision, or
maybe it wasn't his decision to make the chains have
moved on. Patrick Peterson wearing the chains on the way home.
Can I add a bod note to this UM news update?
So I think we were all surprised to find out

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that not shocked, but that Kirk Cousins um delivered a
surprising eight pack when and he's he's quite um shapely.
But Patrick Peterson looks like a he man figure to me, Um,
it is impressive. He's got some deeper check out matter
who you are, check it out online you too. Let's
head to Miami where, Yes, the Dolvins had a chance

(26:48):
to move into first place? Did they do it? From
just about the two yard line? Wolves the running back,
he goes in most of the right back. That's all
a touchdown hill. There's four for the year. Going backwards
puts a run on the money. They are having fun.

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Everything you're doing is working right now. Well put Jimmy
Cephalo w q A M. Everything is working and it
looks easy for two A Tungo Voloa and the Dolphins offense,
who continued to roll over the opposition to a three
more touchdown passes. That's an every week thing. It's like
three hundred and three hundred yards, three hundred yards, three
touchdowns almost every week. Dolpins beat the Browns thirty nine seventeen.

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That's four straight wins. For two and they haven't lost
when two has been the starting quarterback who's played the
full game. Um, and to talk about this is a
great friend, a man who we don't need to talk
about eight packs when we got the pipe here? What's up? Nick?
How are you? Buddy? And I wish I had an
eight pack right now? I mean I Kirk Cousins doing

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a pretty good job there with it. Patrick Peterson, I mean, Mark,
how do you get to that point in your career
without having that type of body? We do all kinds
of body talk here, Patrick Peterson put them on Mount Rushmore. Oh,
I am with you. I I was happily surprised by
what I observed. Very interesting. All right, let's get into
it now, Shookie again. Like I said, the numbers are

(28:18):
astounding for ta and I mentioned in the preview show
last week, if he had stayed healthy, they would be
on a record setting pace. Hell, they might get there
anyway by week eighteen, ten touchdowns and zero interceptions since
returning uh in week seven for two. Yeah, you know
a lot of people are gonna take this as me
being a hater, but a lot of those numbers that
they put up could have been prettier visually, and yet

(28:41):
they stand so strong and had at sheet because of
where they are. Thank you Greg. Seven and three. Overall,
this was their best game of the season to a
perhaps his best game of his career. He was clinical,
operating drives with no resistance, with no worry, no fear,
no no hesitation. Go look at the statute from this game.

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It wasn't Tyreek Hill for ten and one fifty. It
was to a hooking up with eight different guys. Trent
Shurfield almost outgained Tyreek Hill. He had a great touchdown catch.
Tyreek gets on the board with that touchdown catch that
we already played. It was spreading the ball all over
Raheem Moster, Jeff Wilson, both running with authority. They dominated
the Browns start to finish. The only time the Browns

(29:23):
were even really in this game was on their opening drive.
From then on, it was all Dolphins. And this is
the game that maybe a bit of a believer in
t A and a definite believer in the Dolphins. They're
on a roll. They're playing great, complimentary football right now.
And it's not just throwing the ball. They can run
it really well to to It just fits in this
offense and the way that Mike McDaniel has the wide
receivers getting open form. It's just like, I don't really

(29:45):
I'm over the to a debate to some degree, but
also because I think that the ground game has been
an issue in various weeks. The balance, they showed it
a hundred and ninety five yards at five point nine
yards per Probably, I know it's the Browns, um and
I thought after the Bengals game, maybe the Browns it
solved some of their defensive isis game was lackable all
of us who had the until it started, until it's start.

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I mean, it's just like I think, if this is
the Dolphins team to get down the stretch with disability
to move the ball on the grounds through the air,
they are legit dangerous and can beat bit pretty much
anyone in season. But I know, we say, I know
it's the Browns of the Browns, like we said going
into this game. With the exception of one week either
beating every team or just barely lost, they've been competitive.

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They embarrassed Cincinnati in their previous game, So for the
Dolphins to just hammer them here again. Yeah, Jeff Wilson
has been a perfect fit here Shookie seventeen for one
nine team. I mean, is it is it just that
this offense is is just so functional right now that
anything they do seems to work well. Kind of It
is kind of like that. But you gotta give a

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lot of credit to GM Chris Career who went out
there and addressed their need. They knew that Chase Edmonds
was not a good fitness offense, they weren't getting the
production from the running and that they needed to be
the balanced offense that they believe they could be that
could really allow toa to maximum mines is production with
Tyreek Hill and with Jalen Waddle. So they go out
they get Jeff Wilson. Suddenly, Mike McDaniel has two former
running backs from the forty nine is that he knows

(31:08):
pretty well, and they're both producing really well. They're a
great one to punch. They're pretty similar. Um, they're not
too different. But Jeff Wilson, I'm telling you, man, you know,
we got to see him in San Francisco once they
lost Elijah Mitchell, but it wasn't quite what you would expect.
He had some nice runs, but their offense overall was
kind of struggling. Then they bring in McCaffrey. Suddenly he's
in a secondary role. He's expendable, he goes to a

(31:30):
place where he's a perfect fit, and it brings this
offense to a height where now I firmly believe they
can beat any team. If they play like they did today,
they can beat anybody. Now their defense is gonna have
to play better on a week by week basis, gonna
have to play a lot like it did today. Get
after the quarterback, break up passes downfield, they were excellent
secondary multiple attempts to Donovan People's jones broken up by
their defensive backs. If they play like this, I'm telling you, guys,

(31:52):
you gotta watch out. Kind of reminds me of back
in ten when the Falcons kind of got on a
roll about this time in that season, they ran all
the way to the Super Bowl. Today they looked a
lot like that team. And that's a scary team to watch,
a little bit like last year's Bengals. And I mean,
I thought it was impressive. I kept checking out the
box scoring watching the game at the side of my eye,
and like they shut down Cleveland's ground game for most
of this and it was a non factor. I mean,

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Cleveland's a mess to me in a lot of ways.
I don't think they're the some of their parts on
offense or defense in terms of the players they have,
and I feel like they keep getting outcoached week after week.
It's concerning to see. I mean, Mike McDaniel's totally out
maneuvered Stefanski in this one. Well, you know who was
on that Falcon staff, uh, Nick, Mike McDaniel. You know
who was on the Brown staff a couple of years

(32:35):
before that. Mike McDaniel and his coaching makes their offensive
line better. I feel like that's the under sold part
of this whole Dolphins even remember everyone said the Dolphins
offensive line is terrible to and never gets touched. I
know the ball is getting out quickly, but now you're
seeing it in the running game too. And Jeff Wilson
is a lot less stiff in the passing game than
most are, and ultimately they're playing mostly on passing downs.

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Wilson in two weeks has passed them and is their
main back. They did lose Emmanuel Agba for the season today,
who's one of their highest paid players. They are pretty
banged up on defense, but that Chub move. Now it
looks even more important that they got him. Chookie. Miami
scares me. They scare me. They're the real deal in
this division. And the Bills, I know what happened the
last two weeks. The Bills are still the Bills. This

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is a really good division with I think Miami is
starting to knock on the door of like we might
be an elite team. We know the Jets are a
team on the rise. The Pats are in the mix.
This is a very interesting division as we head towards
Thanksgiving and they have a win over the Bills. They
do Chookie one and done for you, baby, Now you

(33:41):
get more time just like the Burgers. All right, buddy,
love you see your nick. Alright, let's keep moving on
to another big time game. You never count out number
twelve yard field goal of Champs Mason Crosby for the

(34:01):
wind snip placeman kick his up and here is s
good sir, pis yard dagger Mason Crosby, who's done it
again into the Cowboys and the Packers have ended the
five game losing screek. A huge win for the Green

(34:26):
Bay Packers. Wayne Laravie for the on the call w
r n W Mason Crosley made the kick in overtime,
but it was Aaron Rodgers making huge plays all night long,
including three touchdown passes to rookie Christian Watson. Keep on
that to keep an eye on that as a potential
major development for this team and a big connection in

(34:48):
the overtime period. Uh two, Alan Lazard, I believe to
set up that field goal Packers thirty one Cowboys and
um Greggy the Cowboys were in this game, seemed to
have it in control and it just got away from him.

(35:08):
No it did you know? Another lock from ahead for
me and Mark was along with this one too. I
just checked all of them have given up double digit
leads in the fourth quarter. That's happened to me twice.
But that is the NFL. Mark and I were talking
about it early in the game. I'm like, we'll just
wait till the fourth quarter because nothing matters until then. Anyways,

(35:29):
and I thought this was deserved to go to overtime
because even though the Cowboys got up two touchdowns here,
at no point did they look like the superior team.
The Packers had a lot of great signs today. You
mentioned Watson that that's number one Aaron Rodgers played really
well for for the most part. I think their game
plan to stick with the running game uh was smart,

(35:52):
and they they played physical, and it just looked like
two really good teams that should have been just about
tied the entire game, going blow to blow blow for blow,
and Dac had a couple of interceptions where maybe on
the receivers not running the right routes, and then Dak
brings them back, and the receivers for the Packers make
a couple of mistakes and then Rogers brings them back,

(36:12):
and it just felt like two really good teams, and
that means it's the best Packers game of the season.
It might have ended basically on a holding call in overtime.
Dallas was moving the ball really well chunks at a
time they were in field goal range and a holding
call backed them up for what was it a second
or in twenty and they didn't recover out of that.

(36:33):
But that that's football, Danny. That. Yeah, they passed on
a fourth and four they went forward instead of about
a fifty five yard field goal, and that came after
the end of the fourth quarter where the Packers had
gotten the ball back after a stop and had a
chance to win the game in regulation and then kind
of like I don't know, they got inside their heads
a little bit, played that terrible poor play calling, poor

(36:56):
use of the clock, and it gave Cowboys a chance
to to win the game and overtime. But give Green
Bay credit their defense without Rashaan Gary, with all the
issues they've had, got the big stops. And this is
what I was talking about on Thursday, Mark with Rogers
that he Packers they took a message, they took it. Yeah,

(37:17):
when when he went on McAfee show Rogers and he said,
you know I am the back to back reigining m
v P. That really did ring a bell from me, like, oh,
this sets up pretty well for them with their as
a caged animal, wounded deer type game. And that's exactly
how this ended up playing out. So uh, credit to
Rodgers and the Packers because they saved their season here

(37:37):
potentially well they did, I mean, we forked them, But
in real life they are very much still in the
mix if they're gonna play like this, and I you've
been waiting all year for someone to emerge in the
passing game and Christian Watson it's not perfect eighty eight
yards all year long until today and showed up in
the big spot. I do think though they're like Mike
McCarthy was freaking out after that one passed the lamb

(38:00):
on third and four. There was a clear to me,
a defensive pass interference that it's just not called, and
I you know, little things like that like that. That
was why he slammed it down. You're right, and then
it looked like a pretty clear passenger. But I think
they missed that. It was saying like we like we
could be talking about something very different. It's a kind
of game where little things like that happened. But again,

(38:23):
green Bay ran the ball really well. They found something
in the passing game. If it's like with a lot
of these teams, if this is the version you get
of the Bucks, if this is the version you get
of Green Bay the rest of the season, the NFC
takes on a bit of a different complexion, right. I
don't think they made some big statement that they're like
better than the Cowboys, and they huge They've had the
wrong side of essentially end of game luck a lot

(38:43):
this year and now it kind of worked in their favor.
But the fact that they went blow for blow and
the defense. It was like a full team victory. The
defense you mentioned got three stops in a row at
the end, so it wasn't just the overtime stop. They
got two stops in the fourth quarter when I expected
the Cowboys. Cowboys to be able to run the ball
and do that for eath quarter. Thing that's happened to
the Packers defensive didn't happen. I think it is a
huge statement by the Packers. And listen, they've been so

(39:06):
inconsistent this year. They were in a five game losing
streak that even with this when there four and six
and have a lot of work to do Titans and
Eagles next, we got a nice TNF game. Yeah, you're
gonna want to say, you gotta get out of there
with a split. At least if you get swept there,
you're you're pretty much close to cook there. So our
fork situation that could be still something where we don't

(39:26):
sweat out. But at the same time, it's like, I
think the running game was better, the defense stepped up.
But Rogers, if we're gonna kill him like we killed
him last week and he deserved it, you really gotta
credit him from making big throws in this game, and
the Watson thing part of the reason why they were
uh three and six going into this game. It's not
Watson's fault, He's a second round rookie, but it is
that they haven't had that guy that they could connect

(39:48):
with and and make big plays. So for one leak,
at least they found him. Let's see if they build
up right. And the fact that he started the game
looking like a volleyball player, spiking down multiple throws on
their first drive which ruined their first drive, and then
he didn't know the ball was coming to him on
another beautiful long pass by Rogers that could have been
a touchdown late in the game. He actually still made

(40:10):
those rookie mistakes, but Rogers kept going to him because
he's a real dude. If you really look at it,
just those three catches alone. Rodgers only threw twenty passes
in this play game. He only had six attempts in
the first half. He played a close to perfect game,
missed like a couple of reads and that was about it.
He played hostess. It ran the ball thirty nine times.
I mean the thing with like I think that Aaron Rodgers. Yes, yes,

(40:30):
his delivery um verbally during the week and the way
that you know, even today he was going off on
Matt Lafleur big time after that one bust to drive.
I like, I I do get where he's coming from,
though with his frustration. You're a two time m v P.
You came into the season, they trade away Davante Adams,
and for two plus months he has been out of
sync with a wide receiver corps that is young, that

(40:51):
doesn't seem to kind of jive with their offense or
know how to get into into. In the unison with Rogers,
he after the first touchdown to Watson, which was I
think sixty some one yards, they showed, you know, the
classic cut to Rogers after the throw and he kind
of like threw his hands up like it's not that hard,
like help me out here. I'm gonna keep putting on
you help me, help you. And in this case, everyone

(41:13):
helped out and the Packers save their season for one
Sunday at least. Let's move on to another game that
Greg says is in the conversation is the greatest game
of the year, no regrets. Let's his on. Giants get it,
Jones gets hit, throws it left caught by slaying one's
out of a tackle. He's got a first down of
the forty getting upside fifteen time five tuck down Giants

(41:40):
slifty four yards and a third and nine her point,
I thought we were doing that. Yeah, I don't think
referenced this a Game of the year off. I don't
remember you said tell be smirched my name with this
Texas trash plays. Apologies Bob Papa with a call on
w f A. And yes it was Darius Slayton with

(42:03):
the fifty four yard touchdown, but it was se Kwan Barkley,
who again was the bell cow for the human who
ran for a hundred and fifty two yards on thirty
five carries. That's a career high over the morabund Houston Texans.

(42:24):
That's one, but it's not the last. Sessler, your thoughts
on this one. You are correct about the moribunds on
the Texans, That is true Giants, though I mean coming
out there by this was sloppy early on, and I
what I loved about it was you got the Brian
Dable like nucleus exploding and he's a very active coach
on the sideline. And there was a series where early

(42:47):
on Animated, it was fourth and one and an offensive line,
and you know, he's all over the offensive line to
try to recrap that thing, and it's all he goes
off sides and it blows up the chance to go
for it on fourth and one and Tables just on
the on the sideline screaming at the higher bunch. Later on,
there was a fourteen yard punt from the fourth and
twenty three from the Houston forty, which had Table throwing

(43:08):
his head set down. They put they try to put
Kenny Gollady out there for some reason, who was an
absolute disaster. I don't That's been one of the worst
freas of our life. Jump in one second on that one,
because I love when uh I love when roadal world
just gets feisty. Yeah, around this time of year and
their their headlines, uh n y g call and Kenny

(43:28):
Golladay goes off for one drop in Giants way, get
a terrible drop and it's just like bang out of
the lineup. But they did get their act together and
it had a lot to do with their defense. And
I know you're playing the Texans, but the Texans, I
will say one thing. You can call him moribund, but
they do find ways to stick around in these games.
We saw it a little bit against the Eagles, which
should have just blown their doors off. But in this

(43:50):
one they at one point they're down to ten. They
mined down to New York Giants ten and the Giants
get a fumble off Damian Pierce. That was huge. I
mean just it basically kind of took the air out
of the Texans balloon. If there's there's there one seven
and one team, we're gonna get to five and a
half or four and a half. The over not looking good, right.

(44:10):
You know, like when you're my son Harrison just had
his birthday, and you know, when there's a milar balloon
that you purchased for way too much money, and then
it's the party happens, but you don't want to throw
out the balloon because you paid damn fourteen dollars for it. Um,
So it stays in the kid's room and then three
weeks later you realize it's still there, but now it's
on the floor or it's like a foot and a

(44:31):
half off the ground. No, it's on the ground. It
does have it's like it's in a launch period. Technically,
It's still a balloon, but no longer what it once was.
A depressing state for that balloon. I mean they got
mills on an on an interception in the end zone
on the next drive. They just they did what they
needed to do. It's a typical ascension balloon. I don't know.
Was it feeling bad about itself in my children's bedroom. No,

(44:54):
I think it was close to the end of its
I think I think a depressing that balloon would be
a good sound draft. Just because you delivered it with
the vigor of a professional broadcast, You're welcome anything else
from this game. Mark, that really jumped out to you
because as someone that I will be watching it for
power rankings reasons, Um, I feel like this is exactly
what I would expect it here, sae Quan would get

(45:15):
the ball a ton, they'd find ways get a couple
of touchdowns of Houston when it scoring enough points, and
the Giants get that seventh win and kind of leaves
you a little bit. I know you're a bigger fan
Mark of the Giants and they um, but like kind
of like do we think about the Giants now? This
is this is their identity. I mean, they pulled out
the win. Um. I think they did it with good coaching,
with with their main stars sort of showing up the
best they could. Uh. It was if you were to

(45:37):
dream of this game at night before it occurred, and
you would have dream realistically, this would be the dream
that you would have dreamed. They mean, hey, they covered.
They gotta just win these They gotta win these games
that they're supposed to win and they will be going
to the playoffs. They are now in second place in
the NFC East. Were still waiting for the Eagles to
to play Monday night, but now they're a game ahead
of the Cowboys who are three back potentially Eagles. It's

(46:00):
just you keep stacking up these winds and it's very close.
I want to just close by saying this is and
I'm not trying to denigrate with the Giants have done.
It is pretty amazing that Brian Dabele has this team
at seven and two. I don't care what they're who,
They've beaten. That is the greatest coach of the materials.
With the way they vote for that. One quick thing
is thirty five carries for Barkley. That lot is outrageous.

(46:21):
They had a third not outrageous. But they had a
thirty one carry game for him earlier in the year
and then at thirteen the next week, so maybe they'll
be conscious of it. But the history of players having
injuries after thirty plus type games when they're not named
Derrick Hendry and they're really given Daniel Jones seventeen through
I mean attempts in this game, that nothing running back
who is known for getting injured. Keep an eye on that.

(46:43):
Give Matt Britos, I'm carries, you'd still beat the Texans.
And now Greg Rosenthal's submission for greatest game of the
season ever ever. Here we go, boys, let's get off
the field. There's the shotguns. Snap the fields. He's back
fields looking feels pressed. Keep hard. He's going down. No,
he stayed up. He's going down. Oh yes, this is fun. Jane,

(47:07):
Oh rise, holy yarm. Julian finally took it down. Oh
my goodness. I've never seen anything like that. Oh yeah, life,
and you've seen anything like this. You're right. The team
of back, Baby, We're back. Turn up alf being the

(47:30):
team team singer, Greggy deep tee singer Mark only how
he's that dealer. I ain't like the team. I don't like.

(47:55):
He's like, oh, hey, listen, part I don't like this
caption that I that I suggesting that I quit on them.
I just I was I was disappin. On the YouTube
copy of this, it says, hey, many multiple platforms, very

(48:16):
many platforms. This is why you don't quit on the
team of a t L will tell yourself that I
didn't quit on them. I just was disappointed in them.
Weeks on. I was trying to get him excited during
this game too, and he was like, well I do.
I kind of like Justin Fields, and that's fine. Just
a superstar. And that's why this is one of the
candidates for the Games of the Year because Justin Fields

(48:37):
lit it up. He does everything in this game. Ad
didn't say what happened in the game, Hey hang on,
that was the big stop by the Detroit Lions defense,
the much brelined Detroit Lines defense, and a game where
Justin Fields again pounding on the door of the superstar club.
Not yet, Son, because the Lions and Dan Campbell get
to stop win thirty one thirty. I think there's a

(48:59):
p A T. Sian involved here, Greg, and you're gonna
tell us about Okay, there is the table set. We
got a little carried away. I I get carried away
when I talk about the three and six Bears versus
the two and six Lions. It doesn't get any bigger
than that. NFC North action on real grass. They're trying
to play us on artificial turf. Check out those injuries

(49:20):
not happening in Chicago. They just did a They just
did a you know, don't be don't be a company
man there. Literally that's the data. This was a beautiful game.
A fourteen point come back by the Lions, so improbable
because it wasn't just a fourteen point come back in
the fourth quarter. It was one where the Bears started
the fourth quarter with the ball, and to that point

(49:42):
in the game, the Lions defense had created one stop
that Justin Fields just had them in a torture chamber.
Every time that they thought that they had him, he
scrambles out and gets a touchdown. He did it scrambling
on a third down. He did it on third downs
throughout the game. But he also had a ton of
great throws. And because of the run game, they would

(50:03):
just bite on the play action and leave guys wide open,
and they didn't know anything. They didn't have any clue
of what to do, and yet in the fourth quarter,
you gotta give the Lions defense credit for forcing a
three and out, for getting a pick six where pressure
and Aidan Hutchinson in the way of the receiver made
Justin Fields frizz out and throw a terrible pick six.

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Right after that, Justin Fields gets that sixty two yard run.
Then I'm sure our listeners have have seen that was incredible.
But after a couple more stops, including that one to
end the game, meanwhile, just Jared Goff is doing his
Jared Goff fourth quarter thing and making plays, and this
Lions team for the second straight week. Look, if if
Dan Campbell's ever gonna turn his career around, this is

(50:46):
how it would look at home against the Packers in
a game that felt like you shouldn't have won. On
the road against the Bears down to not in, this
is how it would look. It was. It was stirring.
It was I don't like I don't like to do
this on the show, but sometimes there's a lot going
on on the Sunday. I don't know this. I just
saw a couple of tweets from angry Bears fans that

(51:08):
they said, the officials played a major role in how
this game closed it. Did you sense anything officiating wise
that was fishy? I need some more specifically on which
plays they're calling. I mean, they could have their kicker hidden.
Next they're just crying in their milk. I'm sure there
was some questionable call at some point. All right, so
there you go. We'll never get that time back. Oh no,

(51:30):
who is this speaking of missed extra points? That banged
to me in a big spot? Locked up the Bears
justin fields against this defense was everything I expected until
the final drive attempt to go win the game, and
then they lost. The locks that hurt the worst are
the ones where they're in your back pocket and you

(51:50):
even move on with your day two touchdown late in
the fourth quarter, I'm like, and it happened to you? Sorry,
justin the witching hour, got me? Yeah, you didn't lose
is any ground? Though nobody lost ground? Some credit for
Jared Goff here, though, I was about to make this
whole thing of like two This is like a perfect
example of Stone Age ponies versus like the new NFL.

(52:13):
That's what it looked like through three quarters. But Goff
was just hanging back there. This Bears defense is terrible.
They created no pressure and he hung back there and
made a lot of good throws. In the fourth quarter
of Monroe st Brown with over a hundred yards, Jamal
Williams with with some big runs at the end, and
yet Golf is in his final swan song as a
starter in Detroit. I would I would imagine and the Bears.
I don't really get the Bears fans. You could be

(52:34):
annoyed with the refs. You want to win these games,
you want to hang around in the NFC. You've got
something special, You've got a feature. I mean, if anything, literally,
it's another one of these things that four weeks ago
justin Fields was viewed. I think widely is sort of
a bottom seven quarterback in the league. And everything has
changed right to everything's changed. Some of my favorite plays
from him today where when the rush got there and

(52:56):
he kept his eyes downfield and it looked like he
was gonna run and then may a really nice throw.
He's doing it all. I mean, they ran for two.
They're like a Bear's dream. And so they set that record.
They became the first team in NFL history to do
that five weeks in a row. That two d plus
mark that the seven seventies six Steelers held that mark previous.
Felt has a rushing in a passing touchdown in five
straight games. He also has the most rushing yards in

(53:18):
the history of the NFL and in a five game stretch.
For any quarterbacks, you don't get into the superstar club
without a really good resume and team success as well.
But what he's doing right now I think as a
passer yet though, I don't think. I think it's just
that his overall game puts them and puts them there. Mark,
will you going forward give the Lions your full heart?

(53:41):
I see, here's the thing. Like you in Hard Knocks,
you can't even give a yes or no answer. Actually, totally, Mark,
totally support what the Lions are. I think Dan Campbell
is totally enjoyable. Going back to Hard Knocks, I absolutely
adored them. I was just simply disappointed them in them
the way you would be with a child. Yes or no?
Will give them your heart? Yes, I give them my heart.

(54:02):
They already had ever stopped talking. Greg, It is just
another fabricated narrative on this on this show. This one
is not fabric No, it is fabricated. I do like
other teams that may be regretted. You know, the let's
finish strong, Lions. Let's take a break heart here, Lions.

(54:23):
All right, let's keep the good times rolling, arrowhead checking
down gold to go with the six Chiefs are spread
now my homes far as quick touchdown turns city. Fourth
touchdown pass by Patrick Mahomes, this time to Kelsey his buddy,
for seven yards and sweet nectar the end zone in

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the Chiefly. I love it. I love when Niche holt
Is hits us with a sweet nectar. Great job by
the radio guys today, Great job by justin everyone behind
the glass every week. The work that's being done behind
the glass does not go overloads. It's pretty good. W

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D A f and Patrick Mahomes through for three one
and touchdown passes the four different receivers, the Chiefs offense
nearly five hundred yards, three turnovers too, and the end
win over the Jags. Um. Seeing some talk out there
that was a good quarterback play on both sides in
this game. I would agree with that. And uh one

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of the turnovers was on a kick return to end
the second half, and it was a reminder like how
many things have to go right? To beat the Chiefs.
In the first half of this game, the Jaguars had
a couple turnover, they forced a couple of turnovers, and
they had a successful on site kick to start the game.
They stole three possessions and they were down seven at
half time this fight, stealing three possessions. Both quarterbacks were great,

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but only one of them was was Patrick Mahomes, and
only one of them his coached by Andy Reid, who
kind of had it all over. Doug Peterson just Doug
Peterson play a little cautious despite that up on side kick,
he decided to punt in multiple situations where he should
have gone for How do you do that? How do
you go from inside kicking he started game to playing conservative.
It was crazy, just like the routes that in the

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route combinations that the Chiefs had just had the Jaguars
scrambling where it felt like they almost won this game
before it even started. Where were we with the I
know you picked this largely because Tony Romo was operating
the color broadcaster. What happened with him fawning over plastic Mahomes.
It was one of my safe bets on the Friday fight.
I'm so glad you asked I have this little note

(56:36):
card things to talk about. I circled Romo plus and
what that means is I think Romo has his fastball back,
or at least he did today. He made a lot
of really incisive comments about the development of Trevor Lawrence
on some of that he didn't see Trevor Lawrence that
I was like, Okay, you're you're teaching me something here.
He talked about the way that Kelsey was running his

(56:58):
routes and Juju smiths Uster how Juju is kind of
getting how Patrick Mahomes thinks that don't run it like
it's written up on the textbook, start adjusting in the
way Mahomes wants to. And he had a couple of
great examples with Juju and Travis Kelsey that we're both
big plays, and I think we're one of the reasons
why this game never felt that closet. You mentioned Tony

(57:18):
Romo in his eyes, the eyes Patrick Mahomes, how Mahomes
just dominating this game with his eyes the new Tony
Romo and my eyes is Mark Sanchez, and he will
be on our show on Tuesday. Mark Sanchez on Around
the NFL Tuesday so getting these incredible guests tune in
for that. How about this Darius Tony touchdown. He's catching

(57:41):
the ball, he's running the ball. We've talked about why
he potentially can be a big time fit in this
offense once he gets reps. Did you see you're seeing
some of that in this game. It was only a
couple of plays, but you can see his athleticism. The
run after the catch that he made, not on the
touchdown was just outrageous. He just and he just skied
high for another catch. And I guess it was like

(58:02):
three different places that letticism. And they might need it
more because Juju Smith Schuster got hit in the helmet
in one of the craziest non penalty calls of the year.
They didn't give a intentional or roughing, but threw the
flagon picked it up and it was like helmet that
we both both watched that replay. It's like what can

(58:24):
compelled them to pull the flag off the turf? And
then it was Andre Cisco the Jacks, not either right.
Cisco the Jaguars was taken out the entire receiver group.
He then took out Valda Scantling on a play where
it looked like he kind of launched himself and scant
Valda scantly did end up returning, and that one was
a little more borderline. But the Chiefs should have been uh,

(58:45):
the chief should have been unhappy. Jaguars fans gotta be happy. Though.
These were two great games by Lawrence in a row.
You I know, you set me up to start there.
For the most part, he played outstanding and had four
or five just beautiful throws in this game. So another
nice That's like all you want to see from the
Jaguars at this point in the season. Maybe I mean
they're they're they're not a playoff team at all, but
like a definitive growth from Trevor Lawrence to go in

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the next off season. They got two dudes, him and
the E t N and Kirk is a great slot
receiver signing like that would ended up being a good signing.
And the Chiefs are now seven and two. They get
the Chargers next week. They take care of business there.
That division looks like it's going their way. Their number one.
I think how recently that last game of the year
was against Buffalo. That was kind of the game of
the year. People were China say and think so. And

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they were down a game and the tiebreaker, and now
they're up on the Bills. Uh. Speaking of the playoffs,
the number one seed last year, the Tennessee Titans. They've
been on a roll. They look to keep it, keep
it going against the Broncos. Wilson under pressure, stepping up
track down field. It's Tippen intercepted by Mitchell, who takes

(59:49):
a knee at the lawn. Now let's take that one hole,
get out of here by it scanning for a flag,
I am not finding one tight. We're gonna win this
football game. But with the limit seconds to go, all right,
there we go. So we got two we's today and
now we got a lets let us two Weason and us.

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They are literally team employees, like a Super Bowl ring
if if they win, I enjoy them leaning into it.
I have no issue with it. It's something in the
New York media they were taught not to do so.
If you're from that land area of the country, you
didn't hear it as much, but you hear it all
over the place. I think it's nice. Mike Keith with

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the call w g f X, Yes, Terrence Mitchell had
the interception to ice the game and Ryan Tannehill, who
they're rolling. They lost last week, but I think that's
six out of seven now for the Titans who take
care of business against the Broncos. Seventeen ten wasn't easy.
They rallied back from a ten point deficit to do it.

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Tannehill obviously on the bed ankle um and you could
see it. He was limping after one scramble. But he
made a couple of big passes, uh touchdown passes on
a day where Derrick Henry was unable to get going
at all. Uh So that is a that is a
good sign for the Titans that they can win a
game when Henry does nothing. In Tannehill, I thought played

(01:01:14):
very well. It's bringing the grave digger. Uh And when
I say he played very well, it's not gonna statistically,
it's not gonna jump out at you. But I thought,
given the fact that clearly he's not a pent and Denver,
even without you know, Bradley Chubb anymore, this is still
a good defense that was playing well. I thought he
really muscled up, including at the end of the half

(01:01:36):
of that big touchdown pass that kind of changed things. Yeah,
Tannehill put together a great two minute drive with Henry
Bareley on the field for that for that drive, drove
him all the way down the field and and threw
a dot to Nick westbrook Akina in the back of
the end zone to make it ten seven at halftime,
and then he had the huge play to to get
to fourteen with the flea flicker touchdowns also to Nick

(01:01:56):
westbrog Aquina, who really stepped up and had a career
game five catches, hundred nineteen yards and two touchdowns after
a week after the Titans receivers all combined for zero catches.
So obviously Tannehill being back is a huge part of that,
but also guys stepping up and making plays helped a lot.
Traylon Burkes was back for this game, but this game
also featured a combined total of seventeen punts between the

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two teams. Gonna be a tough games. This is the
recipe for a forty five minute game pass and this
game ended like a lot of games had already gone
final in this game still had like five minutes left
in the fourth quarters. Yeah, the Titans, you know, they
gave the Broncos a chance in the fourth quarter to
bring Malik Willis on the field and a key third
down play that leads to a fumbled snap which gave

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the Broncos life. And yet and this isn't breaking news,
but you know, it is so hard to watch. You thought,
maybe a bye week and the chance to reset, and
maybe Russ gets healthy, maybe the different version of the
Broncos offense shows up. But Wilson was just completely under siege.
Great job by the front seven of Tennessee, obviously, but
there's also a lot of stuff going on here with

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the Denver offense. It just seems to me that Wilson,
and again this is everyone seeing this, but you watch
it and it's just it's glaring when you think about
what Denver gave up to get him, and how in
deep they are. That he's a beat or two or
three slow to recognize pressure and he doesn't seem to
have the athleticism Russell Wilson to escape, in addition to
accuracy issues. He's said, it's kind of it's just he's

(01:03:26):
not a very good quarterback right now. And I don't
know what they do about this. That's the bigger concern
for me. It's just like, wait a minute, this isn't
a just now thing. Potentially it could be who Russell
Wilson is going for. They lost Jerry Judy. That did
not look good. It looked like an achilles. When it
happened on the first series of the game, they said
it was an ankle, and Ian rap report reported that
it's not an achilles, but it looked pretty bad. Judy

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in the locker room said he hopes he might even
just be a low ankle sprains. Yea. The fact that
they come back from the by and then in the
second half of the game have five punts in an interception.
It's like Judy gets hurt in the first for eight
on third down in the second half. The Broncos were
but also they came into this game without their starting
right tackle Cam Fleming and their starting center Lloyd Cushionberry whatever.

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The Titans were down seven defensives literally seven defensive but
then they also lost Billy Turner and Graham Glasgow, their
backup center and their backup right tackle, and so they
were down to Thursday hit a rookie third string center
snap in the ball and he They had multiple mishandled
snaps in the fourth quarter after this guy important that

(01:04:29):
you say that justin um but also when you give
up what you did to get Russell Wilson, he's supposed
to lift your team up a little bit and they
get down to the red zone in that final minute,
and I think it just says so much that I
know you're you're a fan of the team involved, so
it might be different from you. I had no comminants
at all that it was gonna end with a touchdown

(01:04:49):
for the Broncos, just because we've seen it too much
this season, and I just want to play something, Mark,
and I want you to react to this from Nathaniel Hackett,
who he knows his job is in danger right now. Uh,
and he knows why his job is in danger. And
I wonder at what point he is going to start
pushing back on It's all on me? Who else should
you be blaming here? It's another close game, another one

(01:05:11):
score game, and we feel like, you know, the defense
stepped up to the challenge with Derrick Henry. I I
give our defense so much credit, and I mean the
offense has to find a way. We're one s course
each time. And I think what you're what you're pointing
to a little bit there is that this has to
be a fractured locker room. And if you're Nathaniel Hackett.
The one thing we've heard from players, guys like when

(01:05:32):
you talk to mg D other stuff, it's like coaches,
the first time head coach has to come in with
a special trait. It's really unclear. In fact, it's clear
to see that Nathaniel Hackett is not offering a special
trait right now. And the players in these meetings week
after week, you just start to lose him. Well, what
what I'm saying when I think he's saying there, and
of course who knows. But the offense has to find
a way. I think he's saying, Russell Wilson has to

(01:05:53):
find a way. Help me, help me man, because we
need we need you. We're throwing you. You need to
save us be as you were supposed to save us
the season. The way thing is, though, therek you could
point to, especially early on the year, five games in
a row where coaching decisions and coaching management sunk the team.
He should issue he should be they're giving up less
than seventeen points a game and they're three and six.

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All right, Let's move to Sophie Stadium where the Rams
and a battle of backup quarterbacks same old problems popping up.
McCoy drops back and throwing deep ball left side and
a one handed chat's by Ron del Moore. What a
dime by col McCloy. Incredible grab by Ron Dale Moore dropped. Yes,

(01:06:48):
oh what a day for the radio cruise. Dave passed,
but that was Ron wolf Ley. Yeah, Mr, it's a
dewey leaf our sunlight, moonlit night. I don't know. He's
the best k m v P. We highlighted that we
all watched together in the newsroom because Colton McCoy hung tough,
came back from a bang dumb knee earlier in the

(01:07:10):
game and then delivered that strike on fourth down to
Rondel Moore that basically put this game away. Seventeen. The
Cardinals beat the Rams here in l A across the sidewalk,
and uh, let's start with the Cardinals. Um, even though
I believe the Rams are the more intriguing story, you
gotta give him credit. They took care of business here.
Rams team that was playing with John Wolford at quarterback,

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but it was Kyler Murray out with a hamstring Mark
Um and he uh gets replaced by Colt McCoy, who
does the job and leads his team to a win.
Cult McCoy did this last year. He came in and
he's just I'm not I know that when I'm around
you guys, I'm like a huge Colt McCoy. Guy named
my child Colt after Colt McCoy date based on stuff
from a long time ago when he was on the Browns.

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Here's the thing, Like he comes in, he's just solid.
Here the chemistry that Kyler was showing with DeAndre Hopkins
transferred to Colt McCoy. Uh, the A J. Green who
was essentially vanished from the atmosphere uh this season suddenly
making big catches with Cult McCoy. So he just came
in and did what you need a backup quarterback to do,
which is not really what John Wolford did. And I
think if you're the Rams, you're a burning house right now.

(01:08:14):
This is a big problem. Well, we we get on
cliffs so much for not providing an advantage. I mean,
this is kind of a coaching game, and the Cardinals won.
You could you could down like I get it. I'm
just saying they had lost to John Wolford would be
the flip side. The point is it's like they threw
the ball eleven straight times to start the game. They

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showed a lot of confidence in McCoy there with the
fourth down, and they like threw the ball the whole game.
They ultimately had the better looking offense, and I was
disappointed by the Rams defense. I I did not expect
the Rams defense to allow twenty seven points to Arizona.
I know the Ram offense contributed to that, but ultimately
Colt McCoy led them on three really long touchdown drives.

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I that Jonathan Vilma was all over it. He was like,
even when the Rams are making big plays on defense
and getting off the field, they're not that excited. That
like gonna talk about bad vibes in the locker room
right that, Like they don't think their backup quarterback is
gonna make any place. Even when they make a big play,
they're not celebrating. I mean, listen, it's unbelieved. We talked

(01:09:17):
about going into this game, like, oh, Matthew Stafford might
not play with the concussion, But you know, how much
more of a downgrade could it be. I'll point to
Cooper cup stat line today three catches for negative one
yards on five targets. The last target, a throw sailed
out of bounds, that Cup gives everything he has to
grab in the second half, gets rolled up on and
what looks like a bad potential lower leg ankle injury.

(01:09:40):
Um looked like a guy that was gonna miss significant
time potentially. We'll see what happens, what we learned in
the next twenty four hours. But yeah, you take Cup
out of the mix and there's just nothing there. And
like on the Friday Fun Show, just because first of all,
you know, it's well documented. I'm not a fan of
this Cardinals regime or this team, and I thought the
Rams would have some type of muscle memory to keep

(01:10:00):
their season interesting here and namely they're big name players
like Aaron Donald to step up and have a big game.
And I look again, Aaron Donald nowhere to be seen
in the statute one QB hit. And it's just this
team is not They've no showed. Let's face it, the
Los Angeles Rams have no showed this season coming off
their Super Bowl win, and you're seeing it week after week.

(01:10:22):
There's gonna be a lot of empty seats in this building.
In December, there were booze raining down. It's so far today,
which is this is a team that you know is
months removed from having won the Super Bowl. I think
the frustration is at peak levels. I will say this
about one little thing about Cult McCoy too. I know
Kyler Murray is an incredible talent, but they're the characteristic
of that offense has been well, I'm just gonna say

(01:10:47):
Pault McCoy is someone that came in and ran a
cleaner ship today, cleaner offense from a long time Cardinals
writer who is like, I think this is the offense
Cliff ones to run, which I think that says more
about Cliff, if that's even true. And then I thought, wait,
this is the offense Cliff has been running five yards

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per per attempt. They didn't go over three yards on
the on the play. You're right, you didn't make. But
it wasn't any different the Rams offense wasn't even that
much difference that. The surprising thing here is that, yeah,
the Rams defense got over and um, you know, guys,
because something they come to mind because they're playing together
behind p J. Walker right now. But Sam Donald Baker Mayfield,
you could look as you spin forward in your career

(01:11:28):
and look at Gino Smith is maybe the North star
after what he's been doing doing this year long time
backup has his moment. But you know what, you could
also calibrate this. Go for Colt McCoy, play twelve to
fourteen years in this league, make three to five million
dollars a year, have a couple of good moments every year,
and then that pension and that notoriety and the private jets.

(01:11:51):
It stays in your life for years and years, and
wearing tears down and he's last year. He's doing it
right now. Become a Hard Knock storyline this week. I mean,
they'll be a little more interesting this week. Now, I'll
let you guys cover this. You guys should do a
Hard Knocks podcast. Taking this personal because he's not doing

(01:12:12):
a podcast. He's like, how dare they do it? In
season one? No, I was I would. They asked me
to do the podcast, and I said, I'm not really
interested in this team, and then there's a lot going
on in the league right now. But it doesn't mean that,
you guys, we could couldn't do it. Let's see what
the next episode brings it would it would be him
in That's a yes. It would be an absolutely flawless
production to start two weeks into Hard Knocks. Let's let's

(01:12:35):
pencil Greg and Mark in for when do we wrap
up the Tuesday taping usually about one o'clock. Just roll
straight into a Hard Knocks hard Now let's stress with
a pencil. Not by the way, I thought you're going
to break out the more of an l A Rams
because this was a fork off to me. I think
I think we got away with it this week, but

(01:12:55):
it's coming for I think this was death and they
got forked. Alright, let's take a break and we'll be Rebeck.
Welcome back. The Colts were buried all week for their
decision to can Frank Reich and moved to Jeff Saturday
every Sunday. Let's see how it all started for Saturday
on Sundays, it's confusing the town field into the end,

(01:13:18):
so it's broken up by the cult by stuff on
Kilmore till dant Adams. The intended receiver had no flags
on the plane and the raiders have turned it over
run downs. But und minutes ago, oh my god, that's
good on good right there, and we wanted yeah, we
did win. That's three weeks bingo. We got one to

(01:13:42):
three hat tricks for Weeze and an us Matt Taylor
and Rip Venturry Venturry with the big we there off
the top turn buckle out of nowhere macho man style
w f N. I yes, Matt Ryan got his job back.
That was random, uh this morning? And then he said, Okay,

(01:14:02):
I might as well play well because probably going to
the Hall of Fame, and I'm better than the eleender guy.
Maybe you shouldn't be in the league. Everything I said,
it's the final scoring Colts over the moribund Las Vegas
Raiders in their building. I mean, are you kidding me?
Mark Sesler? You were emotionally invested in this game. You're

(01:14:27):
a fan of chaos and the cults. From one week
at least, UH proved the doubters wrong. I mean, this
game was bathed in ultra chaos. I don't I can't
really remember witnessing something like this from a from a
thing where everyone all week long, like you said, just
looked at the Colts and said, you clowns, What a

(01:14:47):
clown show, What a clown car you've become. And then
suddenly days later, Jeff Saturday, who was on ESPAN a
week ago, is winning a game as head coach of
the cults and they actually looked fun optional today compared
to weeks past. Now you you pointed it out, I mean,
Jeff Saturday arrives and suddenly Matt Ryan's starting it totally.

(01:15:09):
Frank Reich has gotta be. Frank Reich's sitting home getting paid.
But from Frank Reich has got is a man of pride.
We know that, Like, I mean, he put his heart
into this job, and he's watching Matt Ryan play good
football with a healthy Jonathan Taylor looking like Jonathan Taylor, right,
I mean, just it's they. I will say this though,
from the flip side, from the Saturday part of this,

(01:15:32):
I wanted to see, like, if you're gonna come in
out of nowhere, you've been nothing but a high school coach,
you're a television analyst. You've got mere days to organize
a coaching staff that had fired the ROC, fired the
quarterbacks coach. You hand the offense over to Parks Frasier,
a thirty year old. Like what this had the this
had the chance to be an epic disaster. Instead, I

(01:15:52):
will say, like they kept cutting the Parks Frasier up
in the booth, and you can tell he's a little underwater.
Of course we all he's doing something different this time.
He is calling the best cults offensive show of the year.
And I'm telling you, like, it's kind of incredible and
probably a little embarrassing to a lot of people that
the Cults in this situation, this was functional Saturday, seemed

(01:16:15):
totally in control emotionally, uh, and they won. Well. I
think you could be two things. I think everything last
week was kind of a clown car for the Raiders,
for the Cults, the way they handled certain things. But
at the same time, it's like, hey, these guys are
all professionals, and and if you cannot sleep on one
of the reasons why someone that is super plugged in,
like a Zach Kiefer for the Athletic was like, I

(01:16:36):
think maybe his team has one winning it because the
organization is so strange and out of control right now.
That they went from having Ellinger as the quarterback on
Friday to Matt Ryan back after we were told like
very specifically that he will not be the quarterback again
about four weeks ago. You put Matt Ryan back in,
a guy that I think if he's not an Hall

(01:16:57):
of Famer Greg, he is right on the cups. A
former m v P. We discussed, um, it really changes things,
and I think it's it's kind of a disgraceful look
quite honest, honestly for the Raiders to get beat in
the spot and what the season mark is just crashed
for this team. Well, it's just I you do look
at a team that you don't have Darren Waller, you
don't have Hunter Renfro. It's so much more than that, though,

(01:17:19):
it is, but you've lost a bunch of you. There
are like legit parts of this roster that are a mess.
Derek Carr, like did not play. He played a good game.
He at one point had thirteen straight completions, ten in
a row on a drive that finished with a touchdown.
They kept coming back and like he and Davante Adams,
we've seen this before. They got electric for you know,
fifteen sixteen minutes in a row, and they got enough

(01:17:39):
from Josh Jacobs where they had a chance to win
this game. But I don't think there's anything about the
Josh McDaniels experience right now that is anything other than
a mess. We just saw Josh McDaniels hugging Jeff Saturday
at midfield and McDaniels was to be thinking myself, how
the hell did I get here. Jeff Saturday, who as
an analyst a couple of weeks ago we mentioned this,
tweeted the Raiders basically sucks. It was an analysis was great.

(01:18:03):
You're saying, like, people must be embarrassed. You know, people
who went hard on the Colts this week are like
almost annoyed that they won this game. You know who
also might be quarterbacks coach of the Colts, Scott Milinovitch,
who turned down the offensive coordinator job because he thought
he was putting him in a bad spot. That's what
our guys Ian Rappaport and Tom Ploceero reported. They weren't
going to revise his contract either, and he was like no,

(01:18:25):
but here he is out on the field and you
must be watching this be like maybe I should have
um on the other side. Uh. We were told that
Derek Carr was very emotional. None of us have heard this.
After the game, here's a car had to say two
and seven the Raiders out more bunt. Sorry for being emotional.
I'm just piste off. This is some of the things

(01:18:49):
you know that a lot of us trying to do
just to practice. Well, we put our bodies through just
asleep at night mhm. And for that to be the

(01:19:09):
result of all that effort. This is me off oof.
I feel for car he seems like a good dude.
He's caught and there's a lot of criticism around this team.
He deserves some of it. Um, but two and seven
this was not the plan. And to lose to this
Colts team with like you're saying, Mark and greg Um,

(01:19:32):
it's kind of like the low point in what's been
a really low season in general. You couldn't create a
season to make you more emotional and upset if you
are a Raiders, because it's not like they've just looked
like the worst team. Think about some of these games
they've had. They had the twenty to nothing lead against
the Cardinals. They had the Titans game that they blew

(01:19:53):
right at the end. They had the Chief Scheme where
they on Monday Night Football, they they look like they
play amazing and go into Arrowhead and then blow it
at the very end. They get shut out in New Orleans,
which is this incredibly deflating. They had the seventeen point
lead that they blew a week ago to the Jaguars,
and then you have losing to Jeff Saturday. I mean,
that is a torture chamber. That is the worst season. Um,

(01:20:16):
and Mark, you're you were very excited. You're Amanda agent
of chaos, allow the joker in the dark night. Um,
I'm not looking to create that. I was not. Um.
I thought the cults deserved whatever they had coming until
for me. It hit a pivot point this morning on
CBS is Pregame Show, when the Great Bill Kawer shared

(01:20:40):
a long prepared monologue that ended, thus, lee for an
owner to horror coach who's never been an assistant at
the college level or the pro level and overseeing a
very much a lot of candidates. They are qualified for
that job, as we I and Steve Wilkes an opportunity

(01:21:01):
to build a resume. It's a disgrace to the coaching
profession in regardless of how this thing plays on. What
happened Indianapolis is a traves to and like not disagree
with everything there, but it's just like serious football man
has serious takes on a very serious issue. It's just football.

(01:21:23):
The owner gets to do whatever the hell he wants.
The owner liked Saturday and I understand, but like, are
we all crying in our beer because John Fox didn't
get another chance to do the head coaching thing in
the NFL. Bill, calm down, everybody, relax, it's just And
also Jeff Saturday is like, this is not someone with
zero football experience in life. I guess it was a

(01:21:44):
totally out of the box higher but like the one,
the drumbeat from the minute he got there was like, wait,
this guy, we like this guy. This guy's good. Good
with us here. Um if if either Dan or I
I would be more annoying. Was sitting next to Bill
Cower as he was saying that and laughing like we
were on the show like that would have made for
some good TV. That would have been Yes, perhaps, I

(01:22:04):
mean those are like he would have punched that. That
was like like you can put like Walter Cronkite reading
the bullet news flash from Dallas next to Bill Kawer
and Derek Carr right now, you wouldn't tell what's the
most serious situation except they were like tons of people
saying similar things all week. I know, but it's just
the way Bill said, no, the delivery separate, like a

(01:22:25):
dad that's mad at you for bringing home a bad
report card. You think that this goes anywhere. That's just
like as a one one week fun thing. Well, I mean,
I think what goes somewhere is if Matt Ryan's going
to play the way he did today and Jonathan Jonathan
Taylor season Taylor was excellent today. All right, let's wrap
up the early games with a trip to the field

(01:22:47):
formerly known as Hines from ten getting the gun, Andy
Dolton gets their snap. He's back because the Cults fired
their head, yes and hired the ESPN. That would have
been amazing if he started crying and he shall be

(01:23:10):
called le By shut it down about it? A right
nice play there to seal it by the Pittsburgh d
Bill Hill Grove and Craig Wilkeley the call w D
V E can He Pickett and George Pickens ran for
one yard touchdowns and the defense with T. J. Watt

(01:23:32):
back shut down the Saints ten. Watt still believes they
have a chance to make a run at three and
the six. Maybe probably not, but mark Um it was
nice to see them get in the wind calm and
the Saints are just a mess this year. Saints are
a mess. Pittsburgh has been a mess. They've been tough,
to watch. But I think two things happen today for Pittsburgh.

(01:23:55):
Their ground game, which has been um I think one
of the root causes of why you know Nny pick
It's been put into a tough spot passing the law
because you don't buy their ground game. Nagy Harris has
not been good today. They just started. They exploded. They
have not had a run all year long going into
today of more than twenty yards. They had four of them.
It was Naji Harris with a titanic thirty six yard

(01:24:16):
run pick it ran for two of them over twenty plus.
He is good on the ground and Jalen Warren end
the game with a twenty one yard run on the
flip side. Andy Dalton just had a classic sort of
late game Andy Dalton melt down. He had a meltdown.
I mean this defense. They had t J. Watt back
and the changed the game right away. There are different
defense obviously, but guys like demonte Cazi has not played

(01:24:37):
at all, had a huge pick of Andy Dalton. Uh.
Andy Dalton was stuffed on downs on a big fourth
down attempt at sneak that that went nowhere. Levi Wallace
ended the game with an interception so when you get
that version of Andy Daltons, he still makes you know,
he still throws the ball well, and I think it's
like it's not just him. But they really couldn't get
anything going with Alvin Kamara. Uh Landry was back, Jarvis Landry,

(01:24:58):
Chris LaVey does wonderful things, but when any Dalton's gonna
give you those interceptions and that meltdown content um pits
a team like Pittsburgh with what they have their defense
to care of them. The Saints had ten first downs.
It looked like the Steelers. I know J. T. J.
Watt was back, but they also had ten penalties. I
think they had a pre snap penalty before they had

(01:25:19):
a play, which is just their season. They are so
injured too right now, so it's a combination of things.
I think they're really poorly coached and they're incredibly injured
and well so great to your point, they had a
new left tackle, left guard, and center in there, and
I think that caused a lot of problems right on
defense too. They were just like they're just losing role
players and Pete Werner, my guy was gone to and

(01:25:41):
just like Callowey, just a lot of guys were out,
but they're sloppy and you talk about buying with Hackett.
It's weird that there really are a few one and
done coaches, you know, the last decade, and yet we've
got four Canadons. Love, E, d A and McDaniels are
all at least conversations right now. And to me, I

(01:26:03):
think the Saints might be the most likely and has
the potential to just get the ugliest movie, because it
also feels like almost like an interim higher. It's not
like we went and went out and got this guy
that we see as our dude for the next four years.
It's like one and done check relating. I mean they
they were talking him up as a guy that they
really believed in. I thought, when when the job changed hands,
I wonder if if the old guy would potential be

(01:26:24):
back in the mix. I don't think he's going to
come back to this. He does, we'll have a lot
of time for that. But he could go to a
two and done l a Chargers team potentially. Hey, at
least the Steelers won a football game. The Steelers did
get a w And how did Kenny Picket look in
this game? Really up and down? I just don't think
he reads the field really well. I think his mobility
really helps them. Um, George Pickens and Pickett have a

(01:26:47):
nice thing going on. You know, we'll make a couple
of throws. He's aggressive. I like that about him. But
I was almost surprised they didn't bench him at one point.
But I know they just they want to stick with
him and see him point. Really, I mean, I just
like the first half of this was a mess like that.
It just he looked to me, it was one of
his one of his and he's had a lot of
bunch of a string of ineffective appearances. Just didn't look

(01:27:08):
like ready for prime PM Easter thirty eight minutes. The
Saints defense like it just says, no, no, back to it.
It's crazy. No, it's just crazy. Like you had a
lot invested in the Saints and I did not. Did
I like four it? Oh yeah, I'm fascinated by what's

(01:27:34):
gonna happen next. But they didn't like the Saints, And
then they lost some games and the Seahawks started winning games,
So now I like them exactly. Like that's why you
spread it out. You just like tea, You like a
bunch of teams. Gina Smith it's almost it's almost like
you're loyal to not a team, but the whole of
the sport. There we go, come on, justin. I know
you got it in yet, I'm loyal to football. There.

(01:27:57):
I was never pumping up this team, but it is.
It is wild to have twenty one minutes time of
possession against this Steelers team who hasn't been able to
like exert their will at all. All right, good stuff.
You know what else is good stuff? A little Sunday
night football. It's just gonna be me and Mark Dan
has taken off into that dark Los Angeles night. All right,

(01:28:19):
let's do it. We're talking about it's fifty three seconds.
You need a touchdown. Sign shut Paul? It is who's
Funa picking it off and run out of bounds at
the forty two yard Linel Meta who got the pressure,
got the arm, who funk against the pick and the
Niners I'm gonna get the picture. That was Talanoah who

(01:28:44):
funga Dan's boy getting it done in Dan's absence. Twenty
two to sixteen. The forty Niners get it done. They
shut out the Chargers twelve to nothing in the second half.
Good offense, good defense, and ultimately smothered the Chargers mark.

(01:29:05):
Is this what Kyle Shanahan envisioned when he traded for
Christian McCaffrey. Well, I think the second half was. I mean,
that's the story of the game. At halftime was was
the Chargers defense, which allowed fifty one yards rushing after
getting gashed weekly on the ground. And you thought that
would have been the way the Niners would establish it
at the outset. But in the second half it you
got to the point where the banged up Charges were

(01:29:26):
down to three healthy defensive lineman and I think it
allowed behind Trent Williams and the rest of the Niners
offensive line for them to just pound it away. I mean,
they just they were they get The second half went
by so quickly because that's what the Niners want to do,
just controlled long drives and a couple of key throws
by Jimmy g Right. It didn't feel like it's some
great game by the forty Niners offense when you finished

(01:29:48):
with twenty two points, and you know, until late until
the fourth quarter, I think what they had thirteen points
or twelve points going into the fourth quarter, but after
it was thirteen to three, they have a long touchdown drive.
Uh that ended their possessions in the first half. Then
they had a long field goal drive to start the

(01:30:09):
third quarter. Then they have a long touchdown drive to
start the fourth quarter. They kind of did what they
needed to do. They don't really get that much from McCaffrey,
but this team is just like someone's gonna pop up
out of all these guys, and today it was Ayuk
and it was Elijah Mitchell. Kind of is weird that
Elijah Mitchell got more carrious than Christie McCaffrey and looked
better than Christian McCaffrey, But I guess that's a good problem.

(01:30:30):
Also down at the goal line. I don't know why
they were using him the way that they do, But
I mean, for me was also the defense because you
look at the Chargers second half possessions, punt, punt, punt,
very little happen there. Obviously a drive that ended on
downs and then that final interception by Justin Herbert when
they had a minute, you know, essentially a minute to
try to go downfield and win with a touchdown and

(01:30:51):
they couldn't get going right it. It's tough watching the Chargers,
like you want to give them pats on the back
because Okay, nobody's out there and it's DeAndre Carter and
it's Joshua Palmer and there injuries on defensive have obviously
been a problem too. But in the end, you look
up and they had twelve first downs in this game

(01:31:11):
in two and thirty eight yards, and I thought until
the end Herbert played well. I do think he's gonna
have to get to a point where he's willing to
force the ball into tight places that maybe he hasn't
been willing to force it into, because after that first
touchdown drive, and he had some beautiful throws on that
drive and elsewhere in the first half when they got

(01:31:32):
the ball down to the two, he was throwing it
short on third and long quite a bit. And that's
kind of been a Chargers theme that he profiles statistically,
and sometimes when you just watch the game as like
and Alex Smith in Kansas City or a Drew Brees
late in his career, and that that shouldn't be Justin
Herb like Brandon still, he had those comments that you know,

(01:31:52):
now he's finally healthy, no matter what we've been telling you,
and he's ready to be aggressive and be the old
Justin Herbert and we just haven't really seen that guy
in a while. He did have an incredible touchdown past
tonight to DeAndre carterthre was like a look typical like
Herbert absolute dart Right. And he had another great He
really did play fantastic in the first half, like Trey

(01:32:12):
McKitty dropped a potential touchdown. He had another gem to
Palmer that set them up inside the five that they
didn't score a touchdown on. I thought that was a
key play. But like, he needs to be brilliant. It's
kind of like the Atlanta game a year a week ago.
I thought he played great and they end up with
twenty points against Atlanta. I thought he played really well
in the first half tonight, and they go into halftime

(01:32:34):
with thirteen points. Like even though even despite the fact
that they got a couple of things breaking for them,
they gotta recovered fumble, they had a special teams turnover,
and your special teams big play and still nothing. Yeah,
And it's like they talked about how Brandon Staley had
a little bit of an edge to him in their
meetings the broadcast team with him saying, why aren't we
being talked about we were banged up to like other teams.

(01:32:56):
We have this fine and three record, and you're five
and four, And I think this is we kind of
saw tonight reasons why the Chargers aren't really talked about
in a certain special light. Potentially there he was the
same guy that said a few weeks ago, we've won
three in a row, but it doesn't feel like it.
But so that's why. And they're they're doing fine. They're
they're five and four. The season isn't over for them,

(01:33:17):
but they are in Sunday night football and back to
back week So if you weren't inspired watching them tonight,
they're gonna be home against the Chiefs. And I'm have
a feeling there's gonna be like a lot of Kansas
City fans here, traffic that is a that is a concern.
What do you think the traffic is going to be
like tonight? There's a post malone show at the Forum

(01:33:39):
right next door. Uh concerned. I'm ubering. I'm trying to
catch an uber somewhere. So as long as those um
those that employment type job for people that are drivers,
I don't know, I I am, we don't know. I
don't I think I hopefully if they're in the post
malone show, then we're good. Now, Yeah, that's true that
the show won't be over, and yeah that the forty
nine end up with a hundred and fifty seven on
the ground. So it wasn't McCaffrey that got it. Elijah

(01:34:01):
Mitchell had eighteen free nine. McCaffrey goes fourteen for thirty eight.
McCaffrey more involved in the passing game. Uh Jown Jennings
makes a couple of plays. This team just has so
many guys that are difficult to tackle that when Kittle
and Debo are almost silent in this game, Deebo had
a couple of runs, you still look fine. So they
have a lot of different ways they can win games.

(01:34:22):
That's why I just want to jump in to address
the controversy that's going around on Twitter about this hole
should have been a touch back towards the end of
that game. I don't like. I guess you know they
weighed in that officially it should have been like to
my eyes was like, I mean, they blew the whistle.
At no point did they mention now that they blew

(01:34:42):
the whistle before he got pushed into the end zone
or fell back into the end and so at that point,
the play's over, and yeah, maybe they've made a mistake
and blowing it too soon, but his feet were stopped.
I mean, we're just picking knits. We got other things
to be worried about when it comes to officiating, and
I'm not that worried about the guy like slowly moving
back with that right there, including the ejection in this

(01:35:03):
game that was that was that was a bit of
a bit of a loose ejection for Jake Glen green Law,
who clearly deserved a penalty on that play against Herbert.
But that was a quick objection asking defensive defenders to
like simply move their bodies and shift in midair depending
on where the head of the quarterback is when you
mean yeah, alright, So the forty nine is moved to

(01:35:24):
five and they have the the seventh spot right now
in the NFC. It's not too early to start looking
at this stuff. But they are tied in the lost
column with Seattle. The Chargers now fall a couple games
back of the Chiefs. The a f C West can
be decided next Sunday night, but that's there basically clinched
next Sunday night. But that's next Sunday night. This Sunday's

(01:35:46):
over started in Germany. It's ending here Dan somewhere else
in Los Angeles. And you know who was in Germany,
Justin Graver, Colleen Wolf And it was such an exciting
uh day there. We asked Colleen for some of her
thoughts late in the German night and after after the outro,

(01:36:07):
here we're gonna say goodbye. Here, we're gonna have a
little easter egg if you guys are curious what it
was like to be there in Munich. But until then,
for Mark Sesler, Dan Hansas, for Bono, for Brad Pitt,
for Nick Shook, for Justin Graver, for Fonga, for everyone

(01:36:31):
hit the call. At the end of that game, when
we started the postgame show, I was supposed to start
talking about how the Bucks can build off this win
and did they turn the season around, And immediately that
felt so wrong, and I just wanted to share what
it was like to be in that stadium while everyone

(01:36:54):
remained in their seat well after the game finished, nobody left,
and everyone was singing and holding onto each other and swaying,
and their lights were out on their phones, and it
just felt so cool and so powerful and just like
a true connection where everyone was present and just living

(01:37:18):
in the moment, and it was undeniable. I don't know
what it was like to watch on TV. I hope
it came off that way because it was like the
coolest thing that's ever happened in my life. And I
know that it sounds like crazy hyperbole, but I have

(01:37:39):
chills even just talking about it right now. And to
see Henry Hodgson and to see the German fans like
really really embrace this night and this day, it was
so cool. I miss you, guys. I feel really vulnerable
at this point, so maybe it'll play it. Just use

(01:38:00):
it as background or you know, use your judgment. Don't
route my career, kay, Love you, see you guys soon.
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