May 15, 2025 • 36 mins
Gregg Rosenthal is joined by Patrick Claybon and Cynthia Frelund to react to the full 2025 NFL schedule. The crew breaks down the season's holiday games (01:40), Week 1 (08:10), the Vikings primetime schedule (12:20), the overall primetime slate (19:26), the divisions with the toughest schedules (21:59), the Ravens' tough schedule (31:40), teams with under-valued win totals (33:14) and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to NFL Daily, where we've seen all the schedules. Aha,
we got it, and all your teams are going to
have a winning record in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'm Greg Rosenthal.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I'm here in the Chris Westling podcast studio with my
friends Patrick Claybon and Cynthia Freeland.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hi, Hi guys, Look, we got the schedule.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
The schedule, It is right here, my hot little hand.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
It has been released, yes, into the world Peak behind
the Curtain for the first time in a long time.
We're actually taping this type of show a few hours
before it's actually released, so it feels very clandestine right now.
No one in the building is allowed to watch this
closed circuit, no show.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
They only watch their left leg if they watch it.
That's from the signed something in the document. Yeah, we
had to sign some crazy NBA, so your left leg
is gone.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
If you distribute this to anyone, and it's great.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
That's how much we love the NFL Daily listeners, as
we wanted it to get in their ears as soon
as possible. Patrick said about this day earlier that he
lives for this. This is it, this is X lives. Yeah,
that I will not use here out of respect. To
Eric and everybody back there, this is a It is fun.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
If this is a show that's just for us, because
like you said, nobody can watch this. This is where
some there's the naysayers out there, but I am. I
am a fan of the schedule. Lease, I believe that
this isn't a tent pole event. To me, it's a flagpole.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So everyone has different processes with which they look at
the schedule when they get it. For me, I immediately go
to the holidays. So let's just start there. Let's go
to Thanksgiving because to me, that's the most important football
day on the calendar. Maybe with the exception of the
Super Bowl, Conference Championship Day, I don't really know. I
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would go Thanksgiving, and it's a great one. This year,
we're gonna start in Detroit as always, they actually move
the time to one pm. It's not twelve thirty pm.
That's like a big deal in Eastern Yeah, they're gonna
have to just wait a little longer. But we got
Bangers on Thanksgiving. We have Packers, Lions in the early window.
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We have Chiefs Cowboys in the CBS window, which is
a change. I feel like lately they've been giving the
Cowboys sometimes it's not like the sexiest team ever, because
that's the most watched game of the year, no matter
who they put in that spot, and they put the
Chiefs in that spot. So we're getting the Chiefs on Christmas,
We're getting the Chiefs the day after kickoff, We're getting
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the Chiefs everywhere, but we're getting them on Thanksgiving. And
then it wraps up with your Baltimore Ravens feel like
they've been on Thanksgiving Night a handful of times hosting
the Cincinnati Bengals. That is our Thanksgiving schedule, our Christmas schedule,
and it's a tripleheader this year because it's on a Thursday,
so you get an Amazon Prime game in addition to
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two Netflix games. Is Cowboys, Commanders, Early Lions Vikings at
four point thirty, and then Broncos and Chiefs. In terms
of the primetime game, let's just start there with your
Thanksgiving Christmas.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Any thoughts that you have here.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I mean, I think like the power of the Chiefs
is so interesting because not only do they become the
like the you have to they do, they test them
out on like the the NBC Plus, like Peacock stuff
like that, right, like that, so you know the Chiefs
are going to rate. We just know that, right, But
I think those are great games. I don't mind the
leader start. I'm on the West coast, so it's totally
fine by me. But you know, for the for terms
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of the Lions, it's only half an hour. I mean,
it's not a huge deal, I understand. But like you know,
in Detroit, that's like a thing.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
Man.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
You know, we've got parades, we got we time our
turkey the specific way, so it's ready at halftime, the
whole thing.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Famous last words. But that's the best Thanksgiving slay I
can ever remember.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
You could all three of those games, Green Bay, Detroit,
Kansas City, Dallas, since Ultimore.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
They could all anchor the holiday. That's right.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
They have to split time with each other, and they're
going to be sequential and people are gonna have to
make some choices because normally there's that game where I
can step away, yeah, monitor things, go outside and base
the turkey turkey and the smoker here. No, this you
got to be locked in, and you should be because
these are all great.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, and it's a it's a quarterback league, and so
I don't mind Dallas. Like in the kickoff game. We
already went through some of the early games that had
gone out on our last NFL Daily, went through the
international game, went through the kickoff game. But I love
that they're doing big time division rivalries there in Week one.
And then of course on Thanksgiving Bengals, you know, Joe Burrow,
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Lamar Jackson. That has been one of the reliable, like
best games in the NFL every time they play, basically,
and then the Chiefs have decided they want Christmas to
be their thing and they are going to be the
Christmas team every year. This time the Broncos get, you know,
a tough, tough ass to go on a short week
and go to Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I seem to remember a Raiders team that beat the
Chiefs on Christmas right before the Chiefs went on their
run to win Super Bowl. So it's not like they're
infallible on Christmas.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
I do think the holiday dynamic for both the Lions
and the Cowboys and the Chiefs. Yeah, and the Chiefs
where it's just like, Okay, you guys are the official
holiday representative.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
YEP.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I don't know if it's yeah from here on out,
but this year, the fact that the Lions and the
Cowboys are also on Thanksgiving Christmas. I mean, you do see,
and it's it's not a surprise. Certain teams are established
as truly national teams, and it's it's some of it's
about the audience, like like Cowboys, and some of it
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it's about just how good you are.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
And that's your Lions.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
How weird is it that your Lions are like a
truly national team.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I hate their schedule. Why it's awful. It's so hard.
It is insanely hardy.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
And I mean, I guess like the only redeeming thing
is and you could kind of take this both ways,
right with two new coordinators, maybe goes the other way,
but perhaps you can say, hey, at least they won't
be seventeen deep on the injury report by the time
they get to the hard teams because they start with
the hard teams.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Right they start, so Jack Green Bay Week one.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Let's talk about week one because that's the other part
of the schedule. I immediately go to right off the bat,
you get Lions and Packers Week one.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, that is, by the way, just to round out
the Lions.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
When its goes Packers home against the Bears, then it
goes Ravens home against the Browns, but then it goes Bengals, Chiefs, Bucks.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I mean it's just not I mean not great. That's
true of the entire NFC North.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I just feel like we start off with the main ones.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Because the NFC North has to play each other, I
think it ultimately has the toughest schedule of any division
out of division. They also play the AFC North, which
has of course, you know, three of the best quarterbacks
in the league in Lamar and Joe Burrow. And then
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you got to deal with the Steelers I guess not one.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
But I also don't like the back to backs of like,
like the back to backs are where I hate it, Like,
you know, Joe Burrow, then you got Patrick Mahomes, and
then you got the Bucks, who, like you know, they've
had this thing with right, and then you go back
to back Commanders and Eaglesh not fun.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Yeah, there's all these rematches, and then there's the dichotomy
of like you play in the Thanksgiving game because you're Detroit, right,
You're playing the Christmas game because you're good, right. So
it's the combination of all these things. I would like
the schedule.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
I would like to put it out right now there
for all the Lions brass who are listening. If you'd
like me to come to the game here in Los
Angeles on December fourteenth, I'd be happy to come, you know,
I'd be happy to be.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
A guest of the Lions.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Rory.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I love the mascot, you know, love it.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
That is where the Lions schedule gets particularly hard, like
that Rams game for instance. Yeah, that's when the rest
of the division, you know, doesn't have to play.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
That's a first place game.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Oh yeah, it's not great.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
And they're living in primetime, so five primetime games plus
the two holiday games, so they're maxing out there. But
like I said, I immediately go to look at week
one because yep, right now, we are all just crepping
for week one, so we knew what the kickoff game
was Cowboys Eagles. The Friday night game was what everyone
thought it was going to be, which is Chiefs Chargers.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So another big spot for the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Although I do think it's an edge to get one
of those those early games.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
You get to start training camps.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
A couple days earlier, right if you're on the kickoff
or the Friday game, and then you also get just
a little extra rest into Week two when everyone is tired.
I think that's a nice edge other Week one games.
There's eight division games in Week one, which is weird.
They really loaded up division games. You have Gino Smith's
debut with the Raiders at the New England Patriots, and
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Drake May that is the game I'm watching in the
early window. You have a potential Aaron Rodgers at the
New York Jets in the early window if he does
join the Steelers, Dolphins, Cult, Cardinals, Saints. Kind of a
nice start to the season for either Tyler Shuck or
the Cardinals.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Cardinals got to be thinking like we're really happy.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
And then you got Giants, Washington, Carolina, Jacksonville, Cincinnati, Cleveland,
Tampa Bay, Atlanta, and then like some hot late afternoon games,
Detroit at Green Bay and then Houston at the Rams
is a CBS game.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
That's a sick game, which I'm going to try to.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Get my family too, because my son is a Texans fan,
my daughter is a Rams fan, and this is like
once every eight years. In theory, the Texans are coming
out there and that's not even going to be the
national game because.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
We hit your kids against each other starting the football teams.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Not my fault. That's not even the national game because
you have Lions Green Bay. That's insane.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
And then Sunday Night Football Week one, it's Ravens and
Bill's Josh Allen Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
That's the game right there?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Can you imagine, like that's that's so interesting because you
kind of have the two sides like we we you know,
the the defense is where the Bill spent five draft
picks and they readd that defense. Good luck, congratulations you
get Lamar Jackson first, What do you enjoy that?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
What do you think about that? Patrick?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
As a Ravens enthusiast, and this has happened to them
a couple times recently where you have such a massive
game on the schedule, like right off the bat.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Well, considering the way things started last season and the
things that had to transpire to get towards the end,
it's all cumulative, right, and so it's all going to
come out in the wash, and they're all important, every
single one of them.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
But no, but you're not really as long you're going
to be in the first one.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Yeah, as long as well, like Cynthia said, there's more
changes on that side, there are the Bills have had
to do a little more shuffling around. It is at home,
Mark Angels will have a chance to catch a ball
potentially in the end zone, and maybe people will stop
giving him grief about the most worst moment of his career.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
And had you forgotten that it is in Buffalo?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Just to clarify that Ravens Bills game Week one, Yeah,
just looking at the raven quickly, you know they get
the Browns week two at home. But otherwise their first
six games before the bye is crazy. They're just really
important games for them at Buffalo home for Cleveland. Then
you have a Monday night game against the Lions, which
is like one of the best batchups of the year.
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You have Week four at the Chiefs, which is in
theory one of the big biggest games of the year
for them, and then you're back home for the Texans
and Rams, two teams that are going to be favored
to go to the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Like that is a wild starting.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I don't like that when you load up like the
what looks like the most important games early in the season,
we're really going to go with Mahomes versus Lamar and
Alan Lamar, Like weeks one and four and get that
Lions game out of the way.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I don't like that, but I want to save it.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I get I get that, But it's actually, if you
think about it, for the way the Ravens play, it
feels like you're setting the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Up for a really nice finish because that.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Sure gets easier, but their defense always stinks at the
beginning of the year.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Well, I mean nope.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Let's talk a little bit too about that Monday night game.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That's Week one.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
It's Minnesota at Chicago, and I wanted to just point
out that the Vikings are the new America's team.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
If you are they Okay, give me your logic.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Here comes here it comes, He's don the mouth.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Four of their first five games are in national windows.
Five of their first seven games are in national windows,
not just like standalone windows. So we're talking Monday night
at the Bears to open the season. We're talking Sunday
night football, the biggest spot in the sport. Week two,
that's against the Falcons. You have the two international games
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back to back. We knew about Steelers and Browns in
Dublin and Tottenham, and then you have a Thursday night
Chargers game in Week eight, which is their seventh game,
they have a bye. The other two games that are
not in standalone windows in their opening stretch are home
for the Bengals big spot Joe Burrow, and then home
for the Eagles, the defending champions. Every single one of
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those games is going to have the top broadcast crew,
like it's a standalone game or it's the best you know,
non standalone games of that week. So I'm just saying,
expect the vikings, good bad or whatever to be just
like a huge part of our lives in September and October.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
I'm not I'm not being a hater. Yeah, but like
here's here's the well. First of all, there was two
games that they're international that by default isn't in America.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
So just curious about that.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
And number two and number two maybe that means that
they're worried.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
That like maybe like J. J.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
McCarthy gets off this start and then we don't have
to have to worry about them late in the season.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I should count no reading because the next two games
after where I cut it off is at Detroit and
home for Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
I just like they're not putting those in the nationalsmall
you know what I'm saying, Maybe they're worried they're not
gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I did go through and well, we're just gonna spitball
and look for teams that you know, didn't have too
much national windows. The Jacksonville Jaguars, they do get one
primetime game, it's the Chiefs on a on a Monday night,
and then they get their international game. The Panthers they
got one primetime game. I don't know why I am
focusing on the negative here, but I am curious about
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that sort of stuff. The Cleveland Browns their only solo
window is their international game, so they don't technically have
any primetime games. The Panthers did get one. I was
surprised to see the New England Patriots got a primetime
game in every primetime window. One on Thursday night, one
on Sunday night, one on Monday night. Good this year
and including like a week.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
You're going.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
To be they'll be the second best team in that division.
Bills Pats, Bills Pats. And I'm not even need to
go the next two because I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I actually could flip flop on the Jets, Dolphins or Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
You could go either way, but it goes Bills Pats.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I think it goes Bill, and then the other three
teams are about the same if you're being generous to
the Patriots.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
No, Greg's saying, Matt, I think Greg agrees with you.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
He just does agree with me.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
I really don't. I really don't. I've been saying all
off season. I like what the Jets have done. The
Dolphins ultimately have more proven, good NFL players than the Patriots,
and they've won a decent amount.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
When you left tackle retires, you're going to have an issue.
I don't care like they It's hard man.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Okay the Saints are you okay?
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Gott Oh no, No.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
That's why you got to check us out on YouTube
to see Patrick in a lot of pain. Do we
need to I need to take a break. No, we're good,
but sure, but you're truly playing with pain. You mentioned
the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Yes, And I would like to tell you something that
you brought to my attention a while ago about a
man named Vic Fangio. Oh wow, it's all connected. Let's
go back to nineteen ninety seven, Grant. The Chiefs have
just extended their head coach Marty Schottenheimer. But down in
San Diego there was a departure. Bobby Ross was no
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longer the head coach. A couple of coordinators interviewed for
that job, JAG's DC Kevin Gilbride, who ultimately became the
head coach of the Chargers, and Carolina DC Vic Fangio.
It's all connected. Ten years later, Marty Schottenheimer was in
a power struggle with AJ Smith and lost. Dean Spanos
said that there was dysfunction in the organization because AJ
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Smith wanted Ted Kotchell to replace Wade Phillips.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
But you know who Marty wanted to interview?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Who?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Vic pick Fan FANGIOO.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
In Week one of the twenty twenty five NFL season,
it is Vic Fangio against Marty Schottenheimer's son.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Oh, let's go.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
It's all connected, are you okay?
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I'm very worried about your back here.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Except for the whole like, I was very fearful that
at any moment you were going down.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I love the revenge.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I love that it all comes back to Fangio and
the Schottenheimer It's true with these these family names, the Kubiaks, like,
there are so many different connections of coaching staffs and
the Shanahan's.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Man if if you want to.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
See like nepotism is like rampant in the NFL, it exists.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
If you want to try, uh even just like a
little bit harder, Let's go Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
I was.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Speaking of revenge like that. Those Rogers games are great,
assuming Rogers does play for the Steelers, which I am
assuming at this point. That's that's a great week one
that they put him in New York, that was intentional.
And then there's a Week eight in against the Packers. Uh,
and obviously Rogers versus Packers, they put that in Sunday
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Night Football. I believe that that Mike North, who makes
the schedule, said it. You know, it's not all about
just Rogers, you know, versus his old team. You know,
if the Steelers and the Packers are playing, those are
two great franchises. We would put that in Sunday Night Football.
But you know it wouldn't be a bad thing. I
think they knew making this schedule, not what Rogers was
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going to do, but that if he does play for
the Steelers, and the Roonies are literally on record saying
they expect that to happen. And I'm sure they've said
that privately as well, that that's a great Sunday night
game in Week eight.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
It doesn't hurt the attention.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
But also that especially with the with regards to the
Packers and the Steelers, like that game was going to
be people were going to pay.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Attention to that one eventually, no matter what.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
In the event that we do get in twelve days
an announcement that Aaron Rodgers has made a decision about
playing football, then we have to wait until fifteen days
after that he's going to be announcing that he's playing
with the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
We can when's the day where all the things are done,
like all the camps, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Like, I just don't think he wants to participate in
anything until I buy it, Like I just don't.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Like he was in Egypt last year and he took
a lot of flak for I think he's like I've
been doing this for like more than half my life.
I don't owe you guys whatever, Like I'll come when
I'm ready to come, Like I just whatever day, do
the math backwards to figure out whatever day that is.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
That's when we'll hear.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, let's go through the primetime schedules a little bit
like the Thursday night, Yeah, Sunday night, Monday Night. I
mentioned some of the things that stuck out to me
in terms of standalone games. The Saints, who are another
team that had zero standalone games. Not a surprising in
terms of where they're at.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
What you know.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Another thing, one thing in that division that took out
Atlanta Falcons in Sunday night football, the biggest spotlight in
the sport twice in the first seven weeks of the season.
So Atlanta Falcons fans, so I feel like, probably feel
like they have been ignored sometimes over the years.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
That's a nice spot for them.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
And they have another early Monday night game against the
Buffalo Bills. Anything stand out to you, Patrick in terms
of the Thursday, the Sunday, the Monday.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
Night, generally Thursday night. I'm going through and looking at
these weeks, I would take the Thursday night game over
the Monday night game. Of that of all of these
weeks almost eighty five percent of the time.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Okay, So you're going you're just saying better.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Than theF schedule, Like if we go to if we
go to week week two, you get Washington versus Green
Bay on TNF and then on Monday Night Tampa Bay, Houston.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
That one's kind of equal to me.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yeah, Chargers at Vegas would be the Monday night game
that week. We get the of course, always fun revenge
in Division Thursday Night game Week five, San Francisco at
the Rams, and then Monday night is Kansas City at Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
It does feel a little more evenly distributed. Even Sunday
Night Football doesn't seem like it's miles better. On paper.
They have some really big spotlight games, but there's a
couple of weeks where like it looks more like a
T and F Monday Night football game. I think they're
trying to spread out. One thing that was interesting though,
there's four Monday night doubleheaders this year, So if that
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that's more than than ever.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
As a shield robot, obviously I celebrate all events of
the National Football League. I would like these standalone games
to literally stand alone. It defeats the whole purpose of
having Monday Night football. If you're having to flip the
channel and you know, divert your attention from one to
the next, it's just it's not good.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
All right, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
We'll wrap up figuring out the entire schedule right after this.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Back on NFL Daily. Yeah, your Lion's all over prime time.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
You know, it stands out to me a nice little
Cowboys Lions late in the season on Thursday night just everywhere.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Great, that's one of their easier games, I mean, compared
to the rest of that stupid schedule.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
Stupid.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Well, let's talk about like if there's trends in terms
of general schedule thoughts. I did a very rough thing
where I tried to pick which divisions I thought had
the easiest schedule, and it's obviously the NFC West. Yes,
they play, they play each other, and it is a
very tough division. Arguably the second or third best division
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in all of football. I think NFC West like it's
it's balanced, but out of division they play the AFC
South and the NFC South. I know, you run a
lot of numbers in terms of totals and everything. Did
you have that effect and help the NFC West one percent?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:27):
I mean, the the Niners getting a fourth place schedule
and that it's like here you go. I mean, know,
their defense is completely remade and they've got a lot
of things going on, and.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Rock party needs get paid, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
But it feels like it sets up very well for
the Niners to go from you know, we always people
go from worse to first, so playing that fourth place
schedule for them especially is extremely valuable and that actually
narrowly edges them over the Rams for me to win
the division because the Rams have a harder schedule.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, the Rams in terms of their first place schedule
is harder, but ultimately I think the Rams and the
rest of the division just has to be happy because
I went through and I just did my own little
division rankings, my own little strength of schedule, because I
don't really believe in the strength to schedule just out
of division games and for the most part, most of
them are similar. But the NFC West just stands out
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as way easier than the rest. The hardest I thought
was the NFC East. Now I would argue the NFC
North maybe even has it tougher because they have to
play each other, and then out of division, the NFC
North still has a very tough schedule. AFC North, nfcs
NFC East though has to play against the NFC North.
So that's that gauntlet with the Packers and the Vikings
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and the Lions, even the Bears are better. And then
in the AFC they have to play the Chiefs, the Chargers,
and the Broncos, and the Raiders are thrown in there too.
So to me, that's probably the toughest out of division
schedule NFC East for sure.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Yeah, outside of the division, inside of the Vision, they
all get to play the Giants.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Wait, wait, hold on, can we talk about the Giants schedule?
Speaker 6 (23:58):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (23:58):
The Giants are playing a one two three fourth place
schedule and they have from October nineteenth until they're buy
in week fourteenth. So October ninteenth is week seven. They're
away at Denver at Eagles hosting the Niners, at the
Bears hosting the Packers. So that's two times at home
at the Lions, at the Patriots on a Monday night,
and then a buye So they have two home games
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from October nineteenth until December fourteenth.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
What you're asking, I never know what to.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Do it those I agree with you. That's a brutal stretch,
but that means they get it back. On the other end,
the problem that they don't get back is that that
they just have to play all these goods.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
So you're asking, you're asking.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Okay, so you're asking a new quarterback to figure out
the commanders. Then they this is how it starts at
Washington at Dallas, Dallas.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Find that's an average first two weeks, except it's two
roads Washington.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Yeah, you're gonna be Heay.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Then you got the Chiefs and the Chargers. Okay, fine,
you know what, Fine, it's easy the old.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
You're right, it's just the first two games didn't scare
me as much as that other Eagles at Broncos at Eagles,
that's read absolutely brutal.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
October nineteenth to December fourteenth, you were home twice and
it's the Niners and the Packers.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
And even the game before that is home on a
short week against the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Like it's yeah, that's brutal.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Maybe maybe it's great that abdul Carter has no idea
what's about to hit it, mackbe it. They've never played
it any schedule in the NFL before, so you know,
like maybe they won't know what you don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
Well, the problem is an Abdul Carter, right, The problem
is right now because Jackson Dart at some point it's
going to have to come in to try to save
everybody's job.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
And when the opportunity, I guess will be October fifth
at the Saints.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Right. But the problem is if you start Jackson Dart
on October fifth, then you have to play him against
the Eagles at the Kist, the Broncos at the Row
on the.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Road to Row Eagles, Broncos Eagles, and oh and.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Your first starts Jackson Dart.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Enjoy so much about like, if you're going to have
a better than expected season or worse than expected season
is just in the divisional peration. And it's in injury
luck and other stuff like that in terms of the
teams that you play, whether they have injury luck at
the time you play them and not. But a lot
of it is just these division schedules either rising, you know,
helping out a lot of teams or crushing.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
But let's compare. Okay, so I told you how the
Giants start. Now here's how the Commanders start. Giants.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
We know, Okay, at Green Bay that's hard, but then
they get Raiders and then at Falcons that's their first
four not like maybe three wins of that right like that,
and they're playing the second place schedule.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
It's also I think if you're a bad team or
you're in a you've had a couple of tough seasons,
you do want a softer early part of the schedule. Now,
this is one thing where the NFL says they try
to have the teams that have struggled play against each
other early in the season to help them out. So,
for instance, the Panthers start with two games on the road,
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three out of four at Jacksonville at Arizona. But the
best team that they play, like in the first seven
weeks is Atlanta or you know, New England or Doubt. Like,
they don't play a team that you expect to have
eleven twelve, you know, wins this season in the first
seven weeks. So they're saying to the Panthers, here here
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before it gets tough, here's a chance to have a
good start. I think the Patriots got a similar start
to their season. They open with the Raiders, which like,
no game is going to be easy for them. They
open they're at Miami and then they're home for the
Steelers and the Panthers. Now it's not like they're going
to be favored by a ton in any of those games,
but it's three out of four at home and the
best team you play in that group is either Miami
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or Pittsburgh. So that's what you're looking for, just to
just avoid the superhumans like Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahoemes.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
I think also like avoid the people who are going
to be extremely tricky and the Raiders defense, as much
as the front of it is very nasty, it's not.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Like they're going to give you false leverages.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
And Drake May's not gonna have to like, hmm, is
this man or zone that's not gonna happen, you know,
like it's they they had to read like their corners
are still an issue.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
It's not fixed yet, so perhaps it'll be easier. What
are you laughing?
Speaker 5 (28:09):
I don't know, No, I just loved I love Mike
Rabel and Pete Carroll in completely different scenarios with completely
different players, and we expect a certain thing.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
I don't know you're going you're doing a record now
and taking this and taking the Raiders.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
I don't want.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I don't know what I'm expecting, because why not. The
last time I saw Mike Rabel coach a team, they
were terrible, and for the most part, his defenses in
Tennessee were fine. They were they were like average, uh
and the best thing about those teams was weirdly an
offense run by like Ryan Tannehill and Arthur Smith. Oh,
by the way, Dereck Henry, Yeah, I guess he mattered
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just a little.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Seems like he might have played.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
He probably was like the most underpaid player in the
league in hindsight at the time.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yeah, yeah, I mean not today.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yes, we might as well throw some news in there.
David Henry signed a two year contract for a reported
thirty million according to our NFL media insider Ian Rapaport,
with twenty five million dollars guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
So I like it.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
It's the most apparently any running back over thirty has
ever made, which is a pretty big caveat, but I
think it's a fair deal. Running Backs are getting paid
again a little bit.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
I mean, between he and Saquon Barkley, they should, like
those guys prove themselves and they're still you know, they're
not in a situation where you know, the team actually
is like.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
We have like a substitute one that we could put
in for you.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
They don't have substitute ones like it helps Lamar Jackson
having Derrick Henry. It helps everyone having Saquon Barkley on
that Eagles offense.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
But for context, they essentially for two years, Dereck Henry
is going to make twenty twenty five Daniel Jones money.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Correct, right, Yeah, So like, well it is bad. It's
hard to compare those quarterbacks with.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
No but it's true though even he's getting like last year,
for instance, he was getting like Jordan Lewis the nickel
back for the Jaguars money like ten or leg you know,
and even that was like he did not have a
strong market last year and they got a bargain out
of it. Multiple things can be true, though at some
point Derrick Henry has to not be a bionic superhero
(30:19):
and next year, like I would like to see them
maybe take the load off just a little bit so
that that twenty twenty six guaranteed money, all that money
that they gave him is well used because at at
some point as well.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Yeah, but on some level are you like I will say,
when it's a team like the Ravens, they're so smart
with their cap there's probably the way that it's structured
and I don't know because I haven't looked into it,
and I don't have the information necessarily, but like the
way that they structure things, perhaps they are paying him
basically like a bonus for what happened last Yes, because.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
The way other players get paid. But let's be fair
that this isn't happening with you know, the Bengals.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
They have to figure out how to rub two pennies
together to figure things out.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Sometimes this is not with the Raven.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
You can look at that and say, well, however, they're
guaranteeing it. I can pretty much say that they're being
fair with how they're paying someone, probably for his past
performance and not necessarily into the future, like you know.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
And the volume doesn't necessarily have to be a certain
thing to justify the contract. Like you said, like the
best case scenario for Baltimore and for Derek Henry is,
you know, around two hundred carries, around twenty touchdowns. The
best case scenario for some of these backup quarterbacks is
them never playing right.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Yeah, actually that's in many cases the best thing about it.
Every time with the Chiefs, you're like, great backup quarterback
is their best case scenario.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
He never sees the field.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
These North and North battles. Just thinking about the Ravens
are just They're just awesome all season. Like part of
the reason that the Ravens feel so frontloaded with awesome
games is like because there's awesome games throughout even without
with all that front loading. They have the Thanksgiving game
against the Bengals. They actually play the Bengals twice in
three weeks. You hate when that happens. I know the
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NFL tries to avoid it. It's really hard putting everything
together and avoiding stuff like that. But they play twice
in three weeks between weeks thirteen, and.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
I love those division games at the end there.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
And then they also have it rather than all they
have an at Green Bay on a Saturday, which, just
as a quarterback lover, is like Jordan Love Lamar Jackson,
you get, you get the Joe Burrow versus Jordan Love.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
It's just these matchups.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
That you know, the benefit of playing the Bengals for
the Ravens two times in three weeks is Jamar Chase
may be tired or running down the field mount h
by that second game.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Stuff.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
You got another safety, Malachi Starks is there. It's going
to be good. Everything's going to.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Be the Speaking of news our Darius Washington Achilles.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I hate, I hate that injury.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
A really good starting safety who is going to be
part of you know, three safety rotation starting.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Well, atleast they got Malachi Starks though, like in general,
Commander can imagine if they want a different direction than
the draft now, it would be very different.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Why Why are younger athletes tearing their actilities more often?
Says the Boston suf It's a rough week for Achilles.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
You know what I'm not.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Surprised about with the release of these schedules is that
the Bears, who you're always looking for to get into
big spots, are in big spots. They get the week
one Monday night football game, they get the Commander's Monday
Night football game, they get the Black Friday game, they
get a cool Saturday game against the Packers, and they
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get a week seventeen Sunday night football game, assuming that
you know, hangs out against the forty nine ers before
we go. Is there just any other kind of takeaways?
I know you run the numbers with your win totals
once the schedule is put in. Was there anything that
came away from all those numbers that we're interesting to you?
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (33:47):
So there's two things that are action items. Not for
us because we work for the NFL. But I believe
that the markets are undervalue. You're going to get a
good stock price on if you want to ideally the
stock market you buy losel high. So you want to
be buying the Seahawks right now. I think they're undervalued
in terms of how Las Vegas believes that they will finish.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Not me.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
I don't know anything about that, but fine. And then
the other one is the Patriots. They're undervalued as well.
Those two teams I believe are last year I.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Was in there like eight and a half or something,
seven and a half. Hats yeah, I think it was
seven and a half. Yeah, I guess it depends on
the spot. But man, that that seems fair.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
I'm great out that the Patriots are going to be bad.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Listen, we all work together for enough years now, my
lion like like the lion luck stuff.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
I get it. I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
But for everyone else at home, the Patriots are undervalueds fair.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Shout out to the Seahawks. I kind of thought they might.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Be ignored in the Sam Darnold, you know, post Pete
Carroll era, and actually they're in a lot of fun
spot good. They have a Thursday night game against the Cardinals.
They have a Monday night game against the Texans, although
that is an ESPN Plus game. They have a Sunday
night game against the Commanders.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
They have they were calling it ESPN plus. Mooreth think
she's just.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
ESPN Thursday night game. Okay, good to know.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Thursday night game against the Rams like a Saturday game.
So the NFC West is in a lot of big spots.
So that is your action items.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Okay, those are my two actions.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Last year, my action items were the Broncos and the Seahawks,
and both of them were already actioned by like week eleven,
So those are.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
My Well, not only that, Cynthia, you have not made
a big enough deal about the show that we do together.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
We're doing it today, game debut. We do it.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
We picked the games every week all season. Before the season,
you had the Eagles winning the Super Bowl against the
Kansas City Chiefs. You hit the exact Super Bowl result.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
You know, thanks, I appreciate you remembering that.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
At a time when not a lot of people were
picking the Eagles to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Last year.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
In fact, I had picked them to win the Super
Bowl like the previous two years, then got off of
it like an idiot.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
That's what's going to happen to you again this year
with your Super Bowl pick.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
I just know I'm keeping that close to the on
this show. We have a long time to talk about
all the all these games. I think we've done a
good job here. Unless anyone has something just now they
have to get out here. It's been a great week
here at NFL Daily. Thank you guys for flapping.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I miss you.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
It's weird because I don't, you know, during the season,
I see you guys so often, and then I feel
like it's been a long long time.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Well, you know what, you're going to really enjoy the
show we do in just a little bit together too.
Thanks everyone for listening all week on NFL Daily. We
will be back on Monday morning.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Over night.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
We're actually going to have a fun one some ranking
over and that's going to really like what does.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
That even mean? You know, you're like late night. It's
like late night.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
When you're staying up late and you're listening to the
new schedule, Oh.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Late night time with Greg. I see how it's going.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Falls back
Welcome to NFL Daily, where we've seen all the schedules. Aha,
we got it, and all your teams are going to
have a winning record in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'm Greg Rosenthal.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I'm here in the Chris Westling podcast studio with my
friends Patrick Claybon and Cynthia Freeland.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hi, Hi guys, Look, we got the schedule.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
The schedule, It is right here, my hot little hand.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
It has been released, yes, into the world Peak behind
the Curtain for the first time in a long time.
We're actually taping this type of show a few hours
before it's actually released, so it feels very clandestine right now.
No one in the building is allowed to watch this
closed circuit, no show.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
They only watch their left leg if they watch it.
That's from the signed something in the document. Yeah, we
had to sign some crazy NBA, so your left leg
is gone.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
If you distribute this to anyone, and it's great.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
That's how much we love the NFL Daily listeners, as
we wanted it to get in their ears as soon
as possible. Patrick said about this day earlier that he
lives for this. This is it, this is X lives. Yeah,
that I will not use here out of respect. To
Eric and everybody back there, this is a It is fun.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
If this is a show that's just for us, because
like you said, nobody can watch this. This is where
some there's the naysayers out there, but I am. I
am a fan of the schedule. Lease, I believe that
this isn't a tent pole event. To me, it's a flagpole.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So everyone has different processes with which they look at
the schedule when they get it. For me, I immediately go
to the holidays. So let's just start there. Let's go
to Thanksgiving because to me, that's the most important football
day on the calendar. Maybe with the exception of the
Super Bowl, Conference Championship Day, I don't really know. I
(01:56):
would go Thanksgiving, and it's a great one. This year,
we're gonna start in Detroit as always, they actually move
the time to one pm. It's not twelve thirty pm.
That's like a big deal in Eastern Yeah, they're gonna
have to just wait a little longer. But we got
Bangers on Thanksgiving. We have Packers, Lions in the early window.
(02:17):
We have Chiefs Cowboys in the CBS window, which is
a change. I feel like lately they've been giving the
Cowboys sometimes it's not like the sexiest team ever, because
that's the most watched game of the year, no matter
who they put in that spot, and they put the
Chiefs in that spot. So we're getting the Chiefs on Christmas,
We're getting the Chiefs the day after kickoff, We're getting
(02:38):
the Chiefs everywhere, but we're getting them on Thanksgiving. And
then it wraps up with your Baltimore Ravens feel like
they've been on Thanksgiving Night a handful of times hosting
the Cincinnati Bengals. That is our Thanksgiving schedule, our Christmas schedule,
and it's a tripleheader this year because it's on a Thursday,
so you get an Amazon Prime game in addition to
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two Netflix games. Is Cowboys, Commanders, Early Lions Vikings at
four point thirty, and then Broncos and Chiefs. In terms
of the primetime game, let's just start there with your
Thanksgiving Christmas.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Any thoughts that you have here.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I mean, I think like the power of the Chiefs
is so interesting because not only do they become the
like the you have to they do, they test them
out on like the the NBC Plus, like Peacock stuff
like that, right, like that, so you know the Chiefs
are going to rate. We just know that, right, But
I think those are great games. I don't mind the
leader start. I'm on the West coast, so it's totally
fine by me. But you know, for the for terms
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of the Lions, it's only half an hour. I mean,
it's not a huge deal, I understand. But like you know,
in Detroit, that's like a thing.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
Man.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
You know, we've got parades, we got we time our
turkey the specific way, so it's ready at halftime, the
whole thing.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Famous last words. But that's the best Thanksgiving slay I
can ever remember.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
You could all three of those games, Green Bay, Detroit,
Kansas City, Dallas, since Ultimore.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
They could all anchor the holiday. That's right.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
They have to split time with each other, and they're
going to be sequential and people are gonna have to
make some choices because normally there's that game where I
can step away, yeah, monitor things, go outside and base
the turkey turkey and the smoker here. No, this you
got to be locked in, and you should be because
these are all great.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, and it's a it's a quarterback league, and so
I don't mind Dallas. Like in the kickoff game. We
already went through some of the early games that had
gone out on our last NFL Daily, went through the
international game, went through the kickoff game. But I love
that they're doing big time division rivalries there in Week one.
And then of course on Thanksgiving Bengals, you know, Joe Burrow,
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Lamar Jackson. That has been one of the reliable, like
best games in the NFL every time they play, basically,
and then the Chiefs have decided they want Christmas to
be their thing and they are going to be the
Christmas team every year. This time the Broncos get, you know,
a tough, tough ass to go on a short week
and go to Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I seem to remember a Raiders team that beat the
Chiefs on Christmas right before the Chiefs went on their
run to win Super Bowl. So it's not like they're
infallible on Christmas.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
I do think the holiday dynamic for both the Lions
and the Cowboys and the Chiefs. Yeah, and the Chiefs
where it's just like, Okay, you guys are the official
holiday representative.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
YEP.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I don't know if it's yeah from here on out,
but this year, the fact that the Lions and the
Cowboys are also on Thanksgiving Christmas. I mean, you do see,
and it's it's not a surprise. Certain teams are established
as truly national teams, and it's it's some of it's
about the audience, like like Cowboys, and some of it
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it's about just how good you are.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
And that's your Lions.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
How weird is it that your Lions are like a
truly national team.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I hate their schedule. Why it's awful. It's so hard.
It is insanely hardy.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
And I mean, I guess like the only redeeming thing
is and you could kind of take this both ways,
right with two new coordinators, maybe goes the other way,
but perhaps you can say, hey, at least they won't
be seventeen deep on the injury report by the time
they get to the hard teams because they start with
the hard teams.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Right they start, so Jack Green Bay Week one.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Let's talk about week one because that's the other part
of the schedule. I immediately go to right off the bat,
you get Lions and Packers Week one.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, that is, by the way, just to round out
the Lions.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
When its goes Packers home against the Bears, then it
goes Ravens home against the Browns, but then it goes Bengals, Chiefs, Bucks.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I mean it's just not I mean not great. That's
true of the entire NFC North.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I just feel like we start off with the main ones.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Because the NFC North has to play each other, I
think it ultimately has the toughest schedule of any division
out of division. They also play the AFC North, which
has of course, you know, three of the best quarterbacks
in the league in Lamar and Joe Burrow. And then
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you got to deal with the Steelers I guess not one.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
But I also don't like the back to backs of like,
like the back to backs are where I hate it, Like,
you know, Joe Burrow, then you got Patrick Mahomes, and
then you got the Bucks, who, like you know, they've
had this thing with right, and then you go back
to back Commanders and Eaglesh not fun.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Yeah, there's all these rematches, and then there's the dichotomy
of like you play in the Thanksgiving game because you're Detroit, right,
You're playing the Christmas game because you're good, right. So
it's the combination of all these things. I would like
the schedule.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
I would like to put it out right now there
for all the Lions brass who are listening. If you'd
like me to come to the game here in Los
Angeles on December fourteenth, I'd be happy to come, you know,
I'd be happy to be.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
A guest of the Lions.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Rory.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I love the mascot, you know, love it.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
That is where the Lions schedule gets particularly hard, like
that Rams game for instance. Yeah, that's when the rest
of the division, you know, doesn't have to play.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
That's a first place game.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Oh yeah, it's not great.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
And they're living in primetime, so five primetime games plus
the two holiday games, so they're maxing out there. But
like I said, I immediately go to look at week
one because yep, right now, we are all just crepping
for week one, so we knew what the kickoff game
was Cowboys Eagles. The Friday night game was what everyone
thought it was going to be, which is Chiefs Chargers.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So another big spot for the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Although I do think it's an edge to get one
of those those early games.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
You get to start training camps.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
A couple days earlier, right if you're on the kickoff
or the Friday game, and then you also get just
a little extra rest into Week two when everyone is tired.
I think that's a nice edge other Week one games.
There's eight division games in Week one, which is weird.
They really loaded up division games. You have Gino Smith's
debut with the Raiders at the New England Patriots, and
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Drake May that is the game I'm watching in the
early window. You have a potential Aaron Rodgers at the
New York Jets in the early window if he does
join the Steelers, Dolphins, Cult, Cardinals, Saints. Kind of a
nice start to the season for either Tyler Shuck or
the Cardinals.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Cardinals got to be thinking like we're really happy.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
And then you got Giants, Washington, Carolina, Jacksonville, Cincinnati, Cleveland,
Tampa Bay, Atlanta, and then like some hot late afternoon games,
Detroit at Green Bay and then Houston at the Rams
is a CBS game.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
That's a sick game, which I'm going to try to.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Get my family too, because my son is a Texans fan,
my daughter is a Rams fan, and this is like
once every eight years. In theory, the Texans are coming
out there and that's not even going to be the
national game because.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
We hit your kids against each other starting the football teams.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Not my fault. That's not even the national game because
you have Lions Green Bay. That's insane.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
And then Sunday Night Football Week one, it's Ravens and
Bill's Josh Allen Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
That's the game right there?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Can you imagine, like that's that's so interesting because you
kind of have the two sides like we we you know,
the the defense is where the Bill spent five draft
picks and they readd that defense. Good luck, congratulations you
get Lamar Jackson first, What do you enjoy that?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
What do you think about that? Patrick?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
As a Ravens enthusiast, and this has happened to them
a couple times recently where you have such a massive
game on the schedule, like right off the bat.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Well, considering the way things started last season and the
things that had to transpire to get towards the end,
it's all cumulative, right, and so it's all going to
come out in the wash, and they're all important, every
single one of them.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
But no, but you're not really as long you're going
to be in the first one.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Yeah, as long as well, like Cynthia said, there's more
changes on that side, there are the Bills have had
to do a little more shuffling around. It is at home,
Mark Angels will have a chance to catch a ball
potentially in the end zone, and maybe people will stop
giving him grief about the most worst moment of his career.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
And had you forgotten that it is in Buffalo?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Just to clarify that Ravens Bills game Week one, Yeah,
just looking at the raven quickly, you know they get
the Browns week two at home. But otherwise their first
six games before the bye is crazy. They're just really
important games for them at Buffalo home for Cleveland. Then
you have a Monday night game against the Lions, which
is like one of the best batchups of the year.
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You have Week four at the Chiefs, which is in
theory one of the big biggest games of the year
for them, and then you're back home for the Texans
and Rams, two teams that are going to be favored
to go to the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Like that is a wild starting.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I don't like that when you load up like the
what looks like the most important games early in the season,
we're really going to go with Mahomes versus Lamar and
Alan Lamar, Like weeks one and four and get that
Lions game out of the way.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I don't like that, but I want to save it.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I get I get that, But it's actually, if you
think about it, for the way the Ravens play, it
feels like you're setting the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Up for a really nice finish because that.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Sure gets easier, but their defense always stinks at the
beginning of the year.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Well, I mean nope.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Let's talk a little bit too about that Monday night game.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That's Week one.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
It's Minnesota at Chicago, and I wanted to just point
out that the Vikings are the new America's team.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
If you are they Okay, give me your logic.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Here comes here it comes, He's don the mouth.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Four of their first five games are in national windows.
Five of their first seven games are in national windows,
not just like standalone windows. So we're talking Monday night
at the Bears to open the season. We're talking Sunday
night football, the biggest spot in the sport. Week two,
that's against the Falcons. You have the two international games
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back to back. We knew about Steelers and Browns in
Dublin and Tottenham, and then you have a Thursday night
Chargers game in Week eight, which is their seventh game,
they have a bye. The other two games that are
not in standalone windows in their opening stretch are home
for the Bengals big spot Joe Burrow, and then home
for the Eagles, the defending champions. Every single one of
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those games is going to have the top broadcast crew,
like it's a standalone game or it's the best you know,
non standalone games of that week. So I'm just saying,
expect the vikings, good bad or whatever to be just
like a huge part of our lives in September and October.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
I'm not I'm not being a hater. Yeah, but like
here's here's the well. First of all, there was two
games that they're international that by default isn't in America.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
So just curious about that.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
And number two and number two maybe that means that
they're worried.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
That like maybe like J. J.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
McCarthy gets off this start and then we don't have
to have to worry about them late in the season.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I should count no reading because the next two games
after where I cut it off is at Detroit and
home for Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
I just like they're not putting those in the nationalsmall
you know what I'm saying, Maybe they're worried they're not
gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I did go through and well, we're just gonna spitball
and look for teams that you know, didn't have too
much national windows. The Jacksonville Jaguars, they do get one
primetime game, it's the Chiefs on a on a Monday night,
and then they get their international game. The Panthers they
got one primetime game. I don't know why I am
focusing on the negative here, but I am curious about
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that sort of stuff. The Cleveland Browns their only solo
window is their international game, so they don't technically have
any primetime games. The Panthers did get one. I was
surprised to see the New England Patriots got a primetime
game in every primetime window. One on Thursday night, one
on Sunday night, one on Monday night. Good this year
and including like a week.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
You're going.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
To be they'll be the second best team in that division.
Bills Pats, Bills Pats. And I'm not even need to
go the next two because I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I actually could flip flop on the Jets, Dolphins or Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
You could go either way, but it goes Bills Pats.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I think it goes Bill, and then the other three
teams are about the same if you're being generous to
the Patriots.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
No, Greg's saying, Matt, I think Greg agrees with you.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
He just does agree with me.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
I really don't. I really don't. I've been saying all
off season. I like what the Jets have done. The
Dolphins ultimately have more proven, good NFL players than the Patriots,
and they've won a decent amount.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
When you left tackle retires, you're going to have an issue.
I don't care like they It's hard man.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Okay the Saints are you okay?
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Gott Oh no, No.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
That's why you got to check us out on YouTube
to see Patrick in a lot of pain. Do we
need to I need to take a break. No, we're good,
but sure, but you're truly playing with pain. You mentioned
the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Yes, And I would like to tell you something that
you brought to my attention a while ago about a
man named Vic Fangio. Oh wow, it's all connected. Let's
go back to nineteen ninety seven, Grant. The Chiefs have
just extended their head coach Marty Schottenheimer. But down in
San Diego there was a departure. Bobby Ross was no
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longer the head coach. A couple of coordinators interviewed for
that job, JAG's DC Kevin Gilbride, who ultimately became the
head coach of the Chargers, and Carolina DC Vic Fangio.
It's all connected. Ten years later, Marty Schottenheimer was in
a power struggle with AJ Smith and lost. Dean Spanos
said that there was dysfunction in the organization because AJ
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Smith wanted Ted Kotchell to replace Wade Phillips.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
But you know who Marty wanted to interview?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Who?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Vic pick Fan FANGIOO.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
In Week one of the twenty twenty five NFL season,
it is Vic Fangio against Marty Schottenheimer's son.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Oh, let's go.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
It's all connected, are you okay?
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I'm very worried about your back here.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Except for the whole like, I was very fearful that
at any moment you were going down.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I love the revenge.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I love that it all comes back to Fangio and
the Schottenheimer It's true with these these family names, the Kubiaks, like,
there are so many different connections of coaching staffs and
the Shanahan's.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Man if if you want to.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
See like nepotism is like rampant in the NFL, it exists.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
If you want to try, uh even just like a
little bit harder, Let's go Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
I was.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Speaking of revenge like that. Those Rogers games are great,
assuming Rogers does play for the Steelers, which I am
assuming at this point. That's that's a great week one
that they put him in New York, that was intentional.
And then there's a Week eight in against the Packers. Uh,
and obviously Rogers versus Packers, they put that in Sunday
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Night Football. I believe that that Mike North, who makes
the schedule, said it. You know, it's not all about
just Rogers, you know, versus his old team. You know,
if the Steelers and the Packers are playing, those are
two great franchises. We would put that in Sunday Night Football.
But you know it wouldn't be a bad thing. I
think they knew making this schedule, not what Rogers was
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going to do, but that if he does play for
the Steelers, and the Roonies are literally on record saying
they expect that to happen. And I'm sure they've said
that privately as well, that that's a great Sunday night
game in Week eight.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
It doesn't hurt the attention.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
But also that especially with the with regards to the
Packers and the Steelers, like that game was going to
be people were going to pay.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Attention to that one eventually, no matter what.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
In the event that we do get in twelve days
an announcement that Aaron Rodgers has made a decision about
playing football, then we have to wait until fifteen days
after that he's going to be announcing that he's playing
with the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
We can when's the day where all the things are done,
like all the camps, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Like, I just don't think he wants to participate in
anything until I buy it, Like I just don't.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Like he was in Egypt last year and he took
a lot of flak for I think he's like I've
been doing this for like more than half my life.
I don't owe you guys whatever, Like I'll come when
I'm ready to come, Like I just whatever day, do
the math backwards to figure out whatever day that is.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
That's when we'll hear.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, let's go through the primetime schedules a little bit
like the Thursday night, Yeah, Sunday night, Monday Night. I
mentioned some of the things that stuck out to me
in terms of standalone games. The Saints, who are another
team that had zero standalone games. Not a surprising in
terms of where they're at.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
What you know.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Another thing, one thing in that division that took out
Atlanta Falcons in Sunday night football, the biggest spotlight in
the sport twice in the first seven weeks of the season.
So Atlanta Falcons fans, so I feel like, probably feel
like they have been ignored sometimes over the years.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
That's a nice spot for them.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
And they have another early Monday night game against the
Buffalo Bills. Anything stand out to you, Patrick in terms
of the Thursday, the Sunday, the Monday.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
Night, generally Thursday night. I'm going through and looking at
these weeks, I would take the Thursday night game over
the Monday night game. Of that of all of these
weeks almost eighty five percent of the time.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Okay, So you're going you're just saying better.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Than theF schedule, Like if we go to if we
go to week week two, you get Washington versus Green
Bay on TNF and then on Monday Night Tampa Bay, Houston.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
That one's kind of equal to me.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yeah, Chargers at Vegas would be the Monday night game
that week. We get the of course, always fun revenge
in Division Thursday Night game Week five, San Francisco at
the Rams, and then Monday night is Kansas City at Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
It does feel a little more evenly distributed. Even Sunday
Night Football doesn't seem like it's miles better. On paper.
They have some really big spotlight games, but there's a
couple of weeks where like it looks more like a
T and F Monday Night football game. I think they're
trying to spread out. One thing that was interesting though,
there's four Monday night doubleheaders this year, So if that
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that's more than than ever.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
As a shield robot, obviously I celebrate all events of
the National Football League. I would like these standalone games
to literally stand alone. It defeats the whole purpose of
having Monday Night football. If you're having to flip the
channel and you know, divert your attention from one to
the next, it's just it's not good.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
All right, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
We'll wrap up figuring out the entire schedule right after this.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Back on NFL Daily. Yeah, your Lion's all over prime time.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
You know, it stands out to me a nice little
Cowboys Lions late in the season on Thursday night just everywhere.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Great, that's one of their easier games, I mean, compared
to the rest of that stupid schedule.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
Stupid.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Well, let's talk about like if there's trends in terms
of general schedule thoughts. I did a very rough thing
where I tried to pick which divisions I thought had
the easiest schedule, and it's obviously the NFC West. Yes,
they play, they play each other, and it is a
very tough division. Arguably the second or third best division
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in all of football. I think NFC West like it's
it's balanced, but out of division they play the AFC
South and the NFC South. I know, you run a
lot of numbers in terms of totals and everything. Did
you have that effect and help the NFC West one percent?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:27):
I mean, the the Niners getting a fourth place schedule
and that it's like here you go. I mean, know,
their defense is completely remade and they've got a lot
of things going on, and.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Rock party needs get paid, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
But it feels like it sets up very well for
the Niners to go from you know, we always people
go from worse to first, so playing that fourth place
schedule for them especially is extremely valuable and that actually
narrowly edges them over the Rams for me to win
the division because the Rams have a harder schedule.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, the Rams in terms of their first place schedule
is harder, but ultimately I think the Rams and the
rest of the division just has to be happy because
I went through and I just did my own little
division rankings, my own little strength of schedule, because I
don't really believe in the strength to schedule just out
of division games and for the most part, most of
them are similar. But the NFC West just stands out
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as way easier than the rest. The hardest I thought
was the NFC East. Now I would argue the NFC
North maybe even has it tougher because they have to
play each other, and then out of division, the NFC
North still has a very tough schedule. AFC North, nfcs
NFC East though has to play against the NFC North.
So that's that gauntlet with the Packers and the Vikings
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and the Lions, even the Bears are better. And then
in the AFC they have to play the Chiefs, the Chargers,
and the Broncos, and the Raiders are thrown in there too.
So to me, that's probably the toughest out of division
schedule NFC East for sure.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Yeah, outside of the division, inside of the Vision, they
all get to play the Giants.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Wait, wait, hold on, can we talk about the Giants schedule?
Speaker 6 (23:58):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (23:58):
The Giants are playing a one two three fourth place
schedule and they have from October nineteenth until they're buy
in week fourteenth. So October ninteenth is week seven. They're
away at Denver at Eagles hosting the Niners, at the
Bears hosting the Packers. So that's two times at home
at the Lions, at the Patriots on a Monday night,
and then a buye So they have two home games
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from October nineteenth until December fourteenth.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
What you're asking, I never know what to.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Do it those I agree with you. That's a brutal stretch,
but that means they get it back. On the other end,
the problem that they don't get back is that that
they just have to play all these goods.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
So you're asking, you're asking.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Okay, so you're asking a new quarterback to figure out
the commanders. Then they this is how it starts at
Washington at Dallas, Dallas.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Find that's an average first two weeks, except it's two
roads Washington.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Yeah, you're gonna be Heay.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Then you got the Chiefs and the Chargers. Okay, fine,
you know what, Fine, it's easy the old.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
You're right, it's just the first two games didn't scare
me as much as that other Eagles at Broncos at Eagles,
that's read absolutely brutal.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
October nineteenth to December fourteenth, you were home twice and
it's the Niners and the Packers.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
And even the game before that is home on a
short week against the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Like it's yeah, that's brutal.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Maybe maybe it's great that abdul Carter has no idea
what's about to hit it, mackbe it. They've never played
it any schedule in the NFL before, so you know,
like maybe they won't know what you don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
Well, the problem is an Abdul Carter, right, The problem
is right now because Jackson Dart at some point it's
going to have to come in to try to save
everybody's job.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
And when the opportunity, I guess will be October fifth
at the Saints.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Right. But the problem is if you start Jackson Dart
on October fifth, then you have to play him against
the Eagles at the Kist, the Broncos at the Row
on the.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Road to Row Eagles, Broncos Eagles, and oh and.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Your first starts Jackson Dart.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Enjoy so much about like, if you're going to have
a better than expected season or worse than expected season
is just in the divisional peration. And it's in injury
luck and other stuff like that in terms of the
teams that you play, whether they have injury luck at
the time you play them and not. But a lot
of it is just these division schedules either rising, you know,
helping out a lot of teams or crushing.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
But let's compare. Okay, so I told you how the
Giants start. Now here's how the Commanders start. Giants.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
We know, Okay, at Green Bay that's hard, but then
they get Raiders and then at Falcons that's their first
four not like maybe three wins of that right like that,
and they're playing the second place schedule.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
It's also I think if you're a bad team or
you're in a you've had a couple of tough seasons,
you do want a softer early part of the schedule. Now,
this is one thing where the NFL says they try
to have the teams that have struggled play against each
other early in the season to help them out. So,
for instance, the Panthers start with two games on the road,
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three out of four at Jacksonville at Arizona. But the
best team that they play, like in the first seven
weeks is Atlanta or you know, New England or Doubt. Like,
they don't play a team that you expect to have
eleven twelve, you know, wins this season in the first
seven weeks. So they're saying to the Panthers, here here
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before it gets tough, here's a chance to have a
good start. I think the Patriots got a similar start
to their season. They open with the Raiders, which like,
no game is going to be easy for them. They
open they're at Miami and then they're home for the
Steelers and the Panthers. Now it's not like they're going
to be favored by a ton in any of those games,
but it's three out of four at home and the
best team you play in that group is either Miami
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or Pittsburgh. So that's what you're looking for, just to
just avoid the superhumans like Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahoemes.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
I think also like avoid the people who are going
to be extremely tricky and the Raiders defense, as much
as the front of it is very nasty, it's not.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Like they're going to give you false leverages.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
And Drake May's not gonna have to like, hmm, is
this man or zone that's not gonna happen, you know,
like it's they they had to read like their corners
are still an issue.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
It's not fixed yet, so perhaps it'll be easier. What
are you laughing?
Speaker 5 (28:09):
I don't know, No, I just loved I love Mike
Rabel and Pete Carroll in completely different scenarios with completely
different players, and we expect a certain thing.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
I don't know you're going you're doing a record now
and taking this and taking the Raiders.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
I don't want.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I don't know what I'm expecting, because why not. The
last time I saw Mike Rabel coach a team, they
were terrible, and for the most part, his defenses in
Tennessee were fine. They were they were like average, uh
and the best thing about those teams was weirdly an
offense run by like Ryan Tannehill and Arthur Smith. Oh,
by the way, Dereck Henry, Yeah, I guess he mattered
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just a little.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Seems like he might have played.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
He probably was like the most underpaid player in the
league in hindsight at the time.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yeah, yeah, I mean not today.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yes, we might as well throw some news in there.
David Henry signed a two year contract for a reported
thirty million according to our NFL media insider Ian Rapaport,
with twenty five million dollars guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
So I like it.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
It's the most apparently any running back over thirty has
ever made, which is a pretty big caveat, but I
think it's a fair deal. Running Backs are getting paid
again a little bit.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
I mean, between he and Saquon Barkley, they should, like
those guys prove themselves and they're still you know, they're
not in a situation where you know, the team actually
is like.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
We have like a substitute one that we could put
in for you.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
They don't have substitute ones like it helps Lamar Jackson
having Derrick Henry. It helps everyone having Saquon Barkley on
that Eagles offense.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
But for context, they essentially for two years, Dereck Henry
is going to make twenty twenty five Daniel Jones money.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Correct, right, Yeah, So like, well it is bad. It's
hard to compare those quarterbacks with.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
No but it's true though even he's getting like last year,
for instance, he was getting like Jordan Lewis the nickel
back for the Jaguars money like ten or leg you know,
and even that was like he did not have a
strong market last year and they got a bargain out
of it. Multiple things can be true, though at some
point Derrick Henry has to not be a bionic superhero
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and next year, like I would like to see them
maybe take the load off just a little bit so
that that twenty twenty six guaranteed money, all that money
that they gave him is well used because at at
some point as well.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Yeah, but on some level are you like I will say,
when it's a team like the Ravens, they're so smart
with their cap there's probably the way that it's structured
and I don't know because I haven't looked into it,
and I don't have the information necessarily, but like the
way that they structure things, perhaps they are paying him
basically like a bonus for what happened last Yes, because.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
The way other players get paid. But let's be fair
that this isn't happening with you know, the Bengals.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
They have to figure out how to rub two pennies
together to figure things out.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Sometimes this is not with the Raven.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
You can look at that and say, well, however, they're
guaranteeing it. I can pretty much say that they're being
fair with how they're paying someone, probably for his past
performance and not necessarily into the future, like you know.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
And the volume doesn't necessarily have to be a certain
thing to justify the contract. Like you said, like the
best case scenario for Baltimore and for Derek Henry is,
you know, around two hundred carries, around twenty touchdowns. The
best case scenario for some of these backup quarterbacks is
them never playing right.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Yeah, actually that's in many cases the best thing about it.
Every time with the Chiefs, you're like, great backup quarterback
is their best case scenario.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
He never sees the field.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
These North and North battles. Just thinking about the Ravens
are just They're just awesome all season. Like part of
the reason that the Ravens feel so frontloaded with awesome
games is like because there's awesome games throughout even without
with all that front loading. They have the Thanksgiving game
against the Bengals. They actually play the Bengals twice in
three weeks. You hate when that happens. I know the
(32:03):
NFL tries to avoid it. It's really hard putting everything
together and avoiding stuff like that. But they play twice
in three weeks between weeks thirteen, and.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
I love those division games at the end there.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
And then they also have it rather than all they
have an at Green Bay on a Saturday, which, just
as a quarterback lover, is like Jordan Love Lamar Jackson,
you get, you get the Joe Burrow versus Jordan Love.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
It's just these matchups.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
That you know, the benefit of playing the Bengals for
the Ravens two times in three weeks is Jamar Chase
may be tired or running down the field mount h
by that second game.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Stuff.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
You got another safety, Malachi Starks is there. It's going
to be good. Everything's going to.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Be the Speaking of news our Darius Washington Achilles.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I hate, I hate that injury.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
A really good starting safety who is going to be
part of you know, three safety rotation starting.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Well, atleast they got Malachi Starks though, like in general,
Commander can imagine if they want a different direction than
the draft now, it would be very different.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Why Why are younger athletes tearing their actilities more often?
Says the Boston suf It's a rough week for Achilles.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
You know what I'm not.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Surprised about with the release of these schedules is that
the Bears, who you're always looking for to get into
big spots, are in big spots. They get the week
one Monday night football game, they get the Commander's Monday
Night football game, they get the Black Friday game, they
get a cool Saturday game against the Packers, and they
(33:29):
get a week seventeen Sunday night football game, assuming that
you know, hangs out against the forty nine ers before
we go. Is there just any other kind of takeaways?
I know you run the numbers with your win totals
once the schedule is put in. Was there anything that
came away from all those numbers that we're interesting to you?
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (33:47):
So there's two things that are action items. Not for
us because we work for the NFL. But I believe
that the markets are undervalue. You're going to get a
good stock price on if you want to ideally the
stock market you buy losel high. So you want to
be buying the Seahawks right now. I think they're undervalued
in terms of how Las Vegas believes that they will finish.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Not me.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
I don't know anything about that, but fine. And then
the other one is the Patriots. They're undervalued as well.
Those two teams I believe are last year I.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Was in there like eight and a half or something,
seven and a half. Hats yeah, I think it was
seven and a half. Yeah, I guess it depends on
the spot. But man, that that seems fair.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
I'm great out that the Patriots are going to be bad.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Listen, we all work together for enough years now, my
lion like like the lion luck stuff.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
I get it. I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
But for everyone else at home, the Patriots are undervalueds fair.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Shout out to the Seahawks. I kind of thought they might.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Be ignored in the Sam Darnold, you know, post Pete
Carroll era, and actually they're in a lot of fun
spot good. They have a Thursday night game against the Cardinals.
They have a Monday night game against the Texans, although
that is an ESPN Plus game. They have a Sunday
night game against the Commanders.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
They have they were calling it ESPN plus. Mooreth think
she's just.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
ESPN Thursday night game. Okay, good to know.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Thursday night game against the Rams like a Saturday game.
So the NFC West is in a lot of big spots.
So that is your action items.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Okay, those are my two actions.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Last year, my action items were the Broncos and the Seahawks,
and both of them were already actioned by like week eleven,
So those are.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
My Well, not only that, Cynthia, you have not made
a big enough deal about the show that we do together.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
We're doing it today, game debut. We do it.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
We picked the games every week all season. Before the season,
you had the Eagles winning the Super Bowl against the
Kansas City Chiefs. You hit the exact Super Bowl result.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
You know, thanks, I appreciate you remembering that.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
At a time when not a lot of people were
picking the Eagles to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Last year.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
In fact, I had picked them to win the Super
Bowl like the previous two years, then got off of
it like an idiot.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
That's what's going to happen to you again this year
with your Super Bowl pick.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
I just know I'm keeping that close to the on
this show. We have a long time to talk about
all the all these games. I think we've done a
good job here. Unless anyone has something just now they
have to get out here. It's been a great week
here at NFL Daily. Thank you guys for flapping.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I miss you.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
It's weird because I don't, you know, during the season,
I see you guys so often, and then I feel
like it's been a long long time.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Well, you know what, you're going to really enjoy the
show we do in just a little bit together too.
Thanks everyone for listening all week on NFL Daily. We
will be back on Monday morning.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Over night.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
We're actually going to have a fun one some ranking
over and that's going to really like what does.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
That even mean? You know, you're like late night. It's
like late night.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
When you're staying up late and you're listening to the
new schedule, Oh.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Late night time with Greg. I see how it's going.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Falls back
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