August 13, 2025 • 46 mins
Gregg Rosenthal gets you caught up on news from around the NFL including Jordan Love's injury (02:00), Landon Dickerson's timeline for a return (02:58), James Cook getting a contract extension from the Bills (03:55), and the Browns quarterback room (05:20). After the break, Gregg is joined by Jourdan Rodrigue and Patrick Claybon to tell you how Pete Carroll can fix the Raiders (10:30), the Steelers and Jalen Ramsey can fix each other (16:15), Aaron Glenn can fix Justin Fields (20:20), Jaxson Dart can fix Brian Daboll (41:40), and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to NFL Daily, where we are in Oxnard, California
to watch some Dallas Cowboys training camp practice. I'm Greg
Rosenthal and I am here with my Joy Taylor, with
my Jason McIntyre. Chris Babona, our producer volunteered really insisted
on sitting in the chair next to me for the
(00:26):
top of this show, where we're just gonna rip through
some news. So our YouTube subscribers are in for a
treat today. That is how you sold yourself, and you
were very pushy about it that you could be my
Joy Taylor, and I'm Colin Ken.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'm here to serve you some softballs, Greg, So I'll
just give some smiles to the camera, ask some good questions. Okay,
we'll get through the stopper.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I love it. We're gonna throw to a segment we
did earlier in the studio with my good friends Patrick
Claibhon and Jordan Rodrigue. I really love this segment. It's
called I Can Fix It, and we go through different
players around the NFL that we think coaches or teams
can fix kind of reclamation type projects. So stay tuned
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for that. We're going to go through seven items of
news before that, and then we're going to get to
the segment and everything we learn at Cowboys practice. I
wanted to give a shout out to We're going to
be putting up as a YouTube exclusive some takeaways from
the practice and a couple of interviews with Cowboys players
Demarvion Overshown and Dante Fowler. It's going to be a
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really good, in depth short view of the Cowboys to
check that out as a YouTube exclusive. Let's get into this, Chris,
I just like that this is making our actual producer,
Eric feel very uncomfortable. He didn't really like this.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I like, this is not a good idea, man. But
I don't know, I feel like a little like the
Wally Pip moment. You know, no, you know what we're
not looking for. We're not looking We have a lot
of co hosts. I love your energy, I love your
voice on the mic. But Eric is amazing running the
shows and making it sound great. Let's start with the
seven news items that you need to know. Number One,
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Jordan Love went underwent surgery on his injured thumb. It
was on his left hand. He actually was able to
practice after suffering the injury in the preseason. They went
through one practice. They didn't like it.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
They say he could be back to practice as early
as next week. He will not play in the preseason.
This is one of those preseason injuries that truly doesn't
mean anything. Have you noticed, Chris, now you're kind of
into this that every single injury in training camp, every
report is like, oh, it's fine, it's fine. Now, everything's
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gonna be fine, everything's good for a week one.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Stafford, especially like that has been something you were very
early on as like, guys, shouldn't we be worried? And
I think now you were just like, you're right at
this point.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
This is this is what he's here for. Just to
tell me I'm right over and over. Stafford. By the way,
still not back at practice, so that's a good shout out.
I'm not really worried about the Jordan Love thing, a
little more worried about the land and Dickerson injury. The
last time we updated the news, we said he was
undergoing further tests. It was a knee injury. There's a
chance that he will be ready for Week one. The
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Eagles great guard Pro Bowl guard that they identified and
really developed. When he first went down with that injury,
you were worried he may have to, you know, miss
much of the season. So the fact that he has
a chance to play Week one is great news. Do
you know Chris the Week one opponent of the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I do not know, but it must be the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
He figured it out.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
It just must be because we're here in Austar.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
It is. That is the kickoff game. I feel like
if you want to have that sort of spot where
you're setting up the host, you need to know working
for the NFL, what is the NFL kickoff game. It's
like literally the biggest game of the entire year. So
that's a knock on you. But yeah, Dickerson got to
be back, and that's great news because I was a
little worried about their guard position. We got news on Wednesday.
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James Cook not only back on the field, he got
a new contract from the Buffalo Bills, thirty million dollars
guaranteed on a four year deal. I think it's a
team friendly deal, four for forty eight, so they didn't
break the bank, but he's getting a lot of guaranteed
money over the next two years. Had a feeling this
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was coming when he was back at practice on Tuesday,
and I really give the Bills a ton of credit
for doing things the right way. Here are the recent
draft picks, all from Cook's draft class that they've re
signed to long term deals. Khalil Shakir very good slot receiver,
Christian Benford, Greg Russo both plus starters at cornerback and
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edge dresher very valuable positions, and now James Cook. This
is a lesson for the team that we're about to
go cover the Dallas Cowboys, like, take care of your guys,
get the deals done early. It's also a lesson in
how consistent they have been at drafting. I know there's
been ups, there's been downs, but Buffalo overall in the
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Brandon Bean era has been very good. Compare that, for instance,
to the Quessea Dolpha Mensa era in Minnesota, where they
might not even have their entire twenty two draft class
by the end of this training game. The only man
left is ty Chandler on that draft class. Let's go
to the Browns. That is the number four item of
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news you need to know. On this Wednesday. Shouldur Sanders
was announced that he would start this preseason game by
Kevin Stefanski. If Dylan Gabriel was unable to go. Dylan
Gabriel doing a little more work at practice these days,
doing some eleven on Eleven's the bad news though, Bobona
should He got hurt an oblique injury at Wednesday's practice,
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was unable to finish the practice. As we're taping, we
don't know how serious this is. But I think my
big takeaway here is that all this is nice, we're
developing for the future, but Joe Flacco is their starter.
He's the one getting all the first team reps at practice.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Now, and I think that shoulder obviously his homecoming his
first game was incredible against the Panthers. But I still
I want to see Gabriel. I want to see him
in that environment, see what he could do could if
he could play. I would love to see it. And
I know Stefanski said he also does want to see
both backup quarterbacks in the preseason for sure, But I
do think, yeah, Flatco for Week One's that's the shot.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Roberts has a huge smile on his face because Brian
Schottenheimer is about to start a press conference right behind me.
It's all coming together. While but Bona's giving great analysis there.
We'll rip through it just a couple more injuries. So
the number five item you need to know Trevor Penning,
the guard for the Saints. He's going to be out
with turf tow according to Nick Underhill of New Orleans Football,
which is a multi week injury. That's bad news for
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their offensive line. Makai Becton, Remember the Eagles didn't want
to pay him at guard. It's kind of been quiet
there at Chargers camp. A big guy who struggled with
injuries in his career. Where has he been. He's been
gone for a couple of weeks. So you can combine that,
obviously with the injury to their starting left tackle Rashwan
Slater and then naj Harris having a Snapchat photo where
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his eye was pretty clearly closed. It's been a bad
camp for the Chargers. A former Charger, Tyrod Taylor, by
the way out for the rest of training camp. That
is the number seven item that you need to know
on this Weddes.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
That rounds out the list.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
This is what he's here for. This is why Babona
makes the big bucks. Let's get to our segment. I
can fix him with myself, Patrick and Jordan back on
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NFL Daily was about one year ago when a segment
debuted on this show that changed the game. That segment
is called God, I can fix him.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I can fix him.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You came up with this segment. Jordan, we're welcoming Patrick,
Claybahnd guys into the studio. Patrick, We're in a studio.
That was fun when I was back at Cowboys camp.
Please explain to me, Jordan, the genesis and the idea
behind I can fix them. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I mean we've all been there, right, We've all believed
we can fix that person. So when we care about
maybe it's someone we're dating, maybe it's someone in our
immediate family or extended family, maybe it's a friend, you know,
I can fix that person.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I can set them on the right course.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
In the NFL's case, it is the most I can
fix them league of all time. When you see coaches
take on other coaches, you know, discarded players. When you
see new coaches come in and overhaul systems and overhaul
position groups, when you see quarterbacks kind of get their second, third, fourth, fifth,
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maybe nineteenth win under them, it's all the epic ego
and hubris of the league thinking you can actually be
the one to finally fix that person, and girls, sometimes
you just can't.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
And and and then a rare example. It's a far
better practice the way it's done in the NFL than
out in the real world, where people are are people,
their unique products, and sometimes going into a relationship seeping
seeking to repair a person is not the ideal premise.
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So it's better in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Getting older is accepting that you're not gonna change anyone.
You can impact them absolutely, like and that's that's change,
and you can help, you can grow together. But there
are core fundamentals to a human that I think as
you get older you just accept like you just if
love is just accepting. And so we're going to try
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to find that love today. Patrick Beautiful. I want you
to I want you to start. You're the newcomer. I'm
going to start. I'm going to go right to you.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
In my research of last year's I Can Fix Him, Wow,
I do see a similar situation where I jumped in
and except I was in that seat and Jordan listening
over here.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
So this is you were on the show. Yeah, I
was on that show. I don't remember which I will take. No,
you can't fix me. You can't fix my memory.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
I did not remember either, and you have taken part
in significantly or episodes. It definitely resonated with us. I
will start with a relatively new gentleman to the National
Football League, that is one Pete Carroll, who has not
just come back with Jamal Adams once again. But I
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do want to throw honorable mentions to Devin White and
Jermaine Pratt because the the end of the run for
Devin White was a little weird, as was Jermaine Pratt.
Between those two guys, you've got almost ten thousand snaps
of football. But I want to discuss Jamal Adams here
because the idea of playing him at linebacker he was
probably abrasive to even though he's playing in the box.
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I mean, essentially you can make the case it's not
that much of a move. But to come back from
a significant knee injury and then the quad injury in
twenty twenty two, where a lot of people slept on
it's like, oh, we hear quad strains all the time.
It was a complete tear. He told Tyler Dunn when
he initially came back. He has a six ince scar
where they had to go in and you know, the
quad recepts. You know, That's why I called quad. There's
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four muscles in there. One was just a significant rupture,
so he was down to three essentially, and so it's
taken him out of time. He played very good in
the preseason game. Pete said he was pulling for him
to get back. It's a long haul with add difficult
injury and very Pete wise, he said, And shoot, I
thought he played well. And so I'm rooting for this
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to work out. And I don't necessarily think it's a fix,
but it's finally like these two beings being reunited in
a new place, and good luck to the river.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Without the pressure of the trade compensation and even the
contract that he in Seattle.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
And I can fix some league. Is Pete Carroll not
the most I can fix him coach?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Okay, so he is so much that Patrick and I
had the same idea here, and I think that's good.
I think that's great. I thought he's the ultimate I
can fix him coach. I mean you think about Gino.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I mean you always are thinking about Geno.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
That's true. You think about him just making players believe
in themselves in a way that they hadn't before. And
the reason I can feel confident saying that because usually
I don't know what to make of that sort of analysis.
Is just hearing the players talk about it, that that
has changed their lives, changed their career. Gino is one
of them, but he's he's far from the only one.
So many different Seahawks, especially defensive players, so I can
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fix him. Included Jamal Adams, It included Jermaine Pratt, Landon Roberts,
and Devin Why. Eric Stokes is a former first round
pick who's at cornerback starting for them. Tyree Wilson is
a guy who's already run through three head coaches now. Right,
as a top ten pick.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
I thought Tyre Wilson was the steal of the draft
in the top ten.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
And that was an awesome top ten. You do feel
bad sometimes for players that get drafted surrounded by like
all time greats. Right, he was just like, yeah, I'd
have to go through it to remember exactly, but it
was just like hit after hit and then it was
Tyre Wilson. And so that's Pete Carroll. And for me,
Pete Carroll, it's the entire defense. You know. It's because defense,
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much more than offense, I believe, is about cohesion and effort,
and it's not all about scheme and belief. It doesn't
have to all be about talent. And that's good, Jordan,
because I think if you're just grading defensive talent one
to thirty two, the Raiders have to be in the
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bottom handful of teams. It's not the very bottom. I
know they have Max Crosby, but other than that, we
need and I can fix some season out of Pete
Carroll to make this team just competitive and good enough
to compete.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah, I have no doubt. And you've seen this too.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
If you strip away again the talent level of the
roster in general, and you look more of what Patrick
Graham has done scheme wise, trying to scheme gout.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
The defensive coordinator.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Defensive coordinator of the Raiders, trying to scheme like the
scheme is smart. He is a very well respected assistant coach,
and I think pairing him with Pete Carroll brings that
extra energy, that extra like he is gonna just if
all else fails, He's going to need guys playing hard
for him, and Pete Carroll has always been able to
manufacture belief in that way to get a defense communicating
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to get a defense buying into a shared message. And
I think when you combine that with a genuinely very
smart scheme that just you need better players in every
phase of that defense except for one pass rusher spot.
Then I feel like this is an interesting combination. But
it is one where you you know they will have
that because Pete Carroll will get that.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
And it's it's always been a testament to Max Crosby
that he plays that many snaps, but it's also been
because forty percent of Max Crosby was better than what
the Raiders put on the field, right, And so if
they can find some of that depth. And I know
it's of course like we love Pete and the vibes
are always going to be immaculate with Pete, but there
is a talent in seeing where the deficits elsewhere in
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the league are and the ability to utilize talent, and
I think Pete is very very good at them.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Let's hear from Pete Carroll, just because you know we're
talking vibes the ultimate I can fix some coach, well.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Well, you get after him first off, like we did,
and then we have to make sure that we work together.
Like I said, a bunch of those were the young guys,
and we were still hard, counting and doing, you know,
all of the intricacies of our cadence. It's just we
didn't jive together, and we have to mix better and
make sure that we take care of those guys. Know
who you're working, you know, we worked ourselves instead of
working the defense today.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
That that was I love that. That was like him
being hard on the team. But even when he's being
hard on the team.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I'm smiling.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
It's just like a he makes you feel better about it.
I don't want to do a Peek Carroll impression. I
kind of do want to do a Peek Caroll.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I feel like you really want to do a people.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
We'll do it later in the show. All right, give
me another I can fix him.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Okay, my first I can fix him is more of
a third person. Oh, Jalen Ramsey, I think can fix
elements of the Steelers, and I think that the Steelers
can fix elements of Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Love that.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Okay, So every few years, Jalen Ramsey seems to like
want or need a change of scenery, whether it's because
of a contract situation as it was the last couple
of times, or it's just not working out with the
team that he was on. He went from Jacksonville to
Los Angeles where he won a Super Bowl, to Miami.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Now he's in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
So I think that this is a mutual I can
fix some situation because it's a really good change of
scenery for Jalen, who in interviewing him a few years ago,
we talked a lot about he needs a challenge. He
needs to be challenged in order to continue to push himself.
His biggest competitor is inside his own head, and to
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continue to find new jobs, new roles, new things that
he can do to sort of push the envelope and
be a tone setter. And so he will be that
tone setter in this defense as a hybrid safety corner
who they want to seem to keep on the field
not only to help them with rundowns and be really
physical in the box and in the slot and sort
of an unavoidable player in the middle of the field
against power slots, against tight ends, but then also drop
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back into a safety role like we're seeing with a
lot of these emerging more hybrid players. Jalen Ramsey can
still very much do that. I also think it's good
for the Steelers. Yeah, a mutual I can fix him
because that defense does need to evolve a little bit
and this position specifically, moving this position forward not just
in run support but also in pass coverage is a
next step, a next iteration of what the league is
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doing right now on offense, and the Steelers need to
do that on defense. And I think it's a it
is a very like tone setting physical position that he'll
be in, and that's really really good for this defense.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Yeah, there's obviously the costs in subtracting Minca to add
in Jalen Ramsey. Clearly most people would believe as I
think we do. The Steelers ultimate form would have been
to have them both there. They couldn't make that work
trade compensation wise, and so you end up with one
and the other. And I do think things had maybe
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gotten a little stagnant in terms of the way they
approach things with having the personnel and Minca back there
that you can just do things differently with Jalen Ramsey
and they haven't necessarily had the results. So yeah, you
throw Jalen Ramsey out there, and considering the division and
the tasks, right, like having to make split decisions with
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reads against the Ravens to Mike Gesicki and the Bengals. Yeah,
there's so many different places where a guy in that,
like say it like a star hybrid position can be in. Yeah,
you take one of the better players at that in
the NFL. It makes it work.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
And I want to see a little more creativity from
Mike Tomlin, you know that. I think it's a fair
criticism that he's been doing what he does and they
don't necessarily always deviate from that. And maybe Jalen Ramsey
helps to reignite the creativity when you just get two
really smart ball knowers in the same building and then
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you sprinkle on just like a healthy amount of crazy
with Darius Slay and Joey Porter Jr. Like that's a
that's a fun mix to Shawn Elliott's a little crazy
and it's like.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Okay, tink about who they're going against too, his number
one NFC West rival when he was playing in the
nfcc wes DK Metcalf, he'll be going to against him
in practice. And then also Aaron Rodgers is the one
throwing the ball, so like we're there's a lot going
on in Pittsburgh. But I think that somehow, and truly,
I mean this earnestly, Allen Ramsey is the absolute perfect
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fit in what's going on there right now in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I love that. I just want this team, which is
not won a playoff game since when two and sixteen
or something crazy. I was at the game that started
the streak, the AFC Championship game against the Patriots. Like,
let's get Mike Tomlin winning playoff games again. I think
he could do it if that secondary comes through. I'm
going to go with their quarterback from a year ago,
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Justin Fields now with the New York Jets. Let's just
bring him to a team that wants to focus on
what he does well. I think there's this idea with
quarterbacks that are great at running that you almost want
to diminish that skill set, not just as a coach
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but as an analyst, like, oh, yeah, it's great, but
like you know, Justin Fields also throws a really pretty
pass down the field, Like yeah, we know, Like he's
very accurate. Is he as like instinctive in advance getting
through his reads and everything else that comes along with position,
Similar to a guy like Trevor Lawrence who I was
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thinking about thrown in here. Maybe we'd have a minor conversation.
Maybe that's not his greatest strength at this point of
his career. So let's lean into what he does well
and build the whole thing out of Justin Fields's strength
and our team strength, which is the offensive line. Here's
Aaron Glenn after their preseason opener.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
I thought Justin got the guys getting off the huddle.
I thought Tanner did a really good job getting a
play calls and so the guys could play with temple
and play fast. It was good to see Justin use
his legs also, all right, so we know he has
that in his bag. The thing that I think he
showed for the most part is, man, we can call
the play, we have a shot, and it's the shots
out there. He can get it, to get it, chuck
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it down, all right, and he did a really good
job of that. So he was patient. He did everything
that we needed right to get this win and for
him to be the quarterback that we know that he
can be.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
So I love how he's talking about him.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
He's got a little Pete Carroll in him. Aaron Glenn,
I think they have similar strengths and I think they're
going to build him up.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Can you just imagine being justin Field and like someone's
talking about you at the lectern that way and not
asking you to be anything you're not, and in fact
accentuating what you're good at, recognizing things that you can
do that they are asking you to do, and to
play to some significant strengths that you do have with
the team that is dynamically built to help accentuate that.
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And like you can hear in his voice him saying
this with belief and conviction in the quarterback like that's
and I can fix a moment right there.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Some of the best running quarterbacks of all time to me,
started their careers and maybe even when they were peaking,
a lot of it really was deep shots, the run game,
check down, having a good offensive line, having a good
running game that is built in large part around the
strengths of them running and not getting it, not trying
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to do too much more. I think of the Steve
mcair Titans at their peak and like that that was
part of their equation. So as you know, one of
the last people that still believes that justin Fields can
be fixed, Patrick, you have to be thrilled with this, Yes, I.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Don't know necessarily that there's a a fix. That's like,
at a certain point, we've seen how explosive Justin Fields
can be and way he can contribute to wins, but
there's he hasn't been able to get that that level
of long term commitment right in a few different spots.
And you can go all the way back to the
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first rookie wage scale where you saw how teams were
incentivized to kind of take that middle late career player
and kind of toss him to the side in favor
of cheaper rookies because that that's the way things are.
And so in a lot of these situations that we
were discussing, they're these players who were twenty six, twenty seven,
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twenty eight years old, and perhaps there are opportunities kind
of get a little bit limited just because there's a
cheaper option that's out there. And so I think Justin
Fields will be fine right in terms of like how
he can play it. But to hear that, like, especially
when your career can be in this sort of limbo,
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it's got to be good for him to hear and
hopefully hopefully things go well.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I believe, all right, we've gone around the room one time.
We're going to do it again at least one more.
But at this point in the show, I did want
to mention the people that we fixed last year because
I think, at least in terms of projecting who could
be quote unquote fixed, we did a pretty good job.
We had Dave Canalis fixing Bryce Young, I think that
was yours. We had Kellen Moore fixing the Eagles. I
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didn't know they really needed to be fixed, but you
think about what was happening a year ago at this
time and the season that they were coming off.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Wow, that worked out pretty well, especially for Kellen Moore.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
And we had a few others that were fine. Tony
Pollard was one of them. Yeah, he had a good season.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Was that yours?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
A few others that were fine? I don't I don't
know who who was who? I don't know who was who.
Clint Kubiak was involved that one did not really.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Maybe this time I think you might.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Have gone Calvin Ridley, which wasn't wasn't bad or good.
But I also wanted to think about how this league runs,
that there are these guys that just like keep getting
passed around a little bit. As I can fix some candidates.
I would call them the I can fix them all stars.
So I'm just gonna name some of them now, Zach Wilson,
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Kenny Pickett, Marcus Mariota. It's a little early for the
music made because these are Unfortunately they're still getting passed around.
Devin White maybe in there. Sam Darnold, I think he'd
be I can fix them all Star.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
You've done that, man dirty all week.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Kyle Kyle Pitts is kind of becoming one of those guys.
Jeff Okuda has become one of those guys. And then
I would like to make an announcement on this show,
and with this music cranked up even louder, that Baker
Mayfield has officially graduated for I can fix him. He's fixed.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
What what if now Baker is the one doing in
the fixing.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
He's fixing coaching career.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Can we get Josh McDaniels down to Tampa Bay You'll
be the head coach somewhere.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I congratulations, Baker.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I'm so happy.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
You cannot be Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
You can't be fixed anymore.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
He's fixed. It's happened. Isaiah Simmons maybe the maybe the
ultimate all start here. But uh, Baker.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Mayfield, I've never heard the second.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Dinner he did it, buddy. All right, let's go around
the room again. We'll start with Patrick.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
Yeah, and I'll go right across the street. Because back
in April, the Chargers na not a lot of news fanfare. Hey,
they signed Trey Lance. Well, you know, why not, why
not sign Trey Lance, give him an opportunity, And we haven't.
We haven't seen a lot of Taylor Heineke. It has
been all Trey Lance in the preseason through two starts,
and Harball was crediting him, and the passing numbers were
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a little bit down in the Chargers second game, but
they he used his legs. Well, Harball loved that, so
he thought he had a heck of a game. And yeah,
we are Greg Roman and Harball away from fixing Trey
Lance and giving him an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Hey, I saw some Taylor Heineke live. It didn't last
that long, and it was on site and they were like,
give us some Trey Lance because we want to get
our guys some better looks. And the second Tray Lance
came in. I mean, the passing game didn't exactly explode,
but at least Trey Lance brought him right down the
field on a touchdown drive, using his legs, using his strengths,
and hitting a nice two point conversion two on a slant.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Last week when I was at Chargers camp there or
was it last week, It was sometime this summer, and
I saw Trey Lance and Justin Herbert and Jim Harbaugh
all standing together, and they were sort of just like
moving as one entity around the.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Practice field together.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
So it's like, you know, Ray Lance was absorbing everything
that Justin Herbert was receiving from Jim Harbaugh by a
sort of spatial osmosis, I guess, And so it was
really interesting to see him kind of he wants to
clearly be a sponge and soak up the teaching that
the first quarter the number one quarterback is getting, or
the collaboration communication that they have with each other. Jim
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Harbaugh another belief guy.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Right, There's a lot of similarities on the players and
the teams that were choosing. And you can just see
by his play on the field without knowing anything about
Trey Lance, that he's more comfortable and more confident. I
think in being a pro quarterback, I think he's going
to carve out a career.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Speaking of which, Okay, okay, this is my personal I
can fix you.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
To a certain gris.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I can fix him. We don't have the rights to
fix you by coldplay. They've you know, a lot of
publicity lately, they've.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Taken off, They've really started to make something of it.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
They've made it. We can't afford it, so I can
fix him.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Okay, I can fix but this is a group of people.
I can fix you, Bryce Young haters.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I really, Oh, can You're gonna do it?
Speaker 4 (29:08):
I was clocking all the short jokes and actually filing
them away for use on Greg at a later date.
I was clocking all the pain and all of the
frustration that this was your starting quarterback, the guy that
the franchise is pouring all of these resources into.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Bryce Young haters, I can fix you.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Bask in the training camp reports of Bryce Young throwing
at the ball around well revel and the anticipatory throws,
the confidence and comfort whether throwing on time. We're working
a little out of structure to create plays, and this
I love the most. We have a clip of Bryce
Young with an anticipation throw, and it is lightning fast
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and it's an anticipation throw and tet does a double
move off of the line of scrimmage into the end
zone and he can't get his head around quite fast
enough because it throws with such anticipation. He reckoni is
that he gives Bryce Young a thumbs up. But this throw,
the speed at which it comes out, it's tailor made
for building that chemistry between the two of them that
will continue as time passes as they both get their
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feet under them together.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
And I just love this type of throw.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
This is the type of really quick option play and
really quick outlet play that really benefits receivers who can
get open fast and really can capitalize on a defense
and put them on the back foot.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
And I just I really really like that.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
So once this timing gets down between the two of them,
then this is going to be a deadly combination.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
And I think you can see this.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
You could see this all over Bryce's tape from that
preseason game, the little that he did play creating out
a structure, getting throwing guys open in certain areas.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
This is exactly why they actually went after him.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
I love that clip, and when you see it from
both angles, you realize the rookie linebacker for the Browns,
Carson Trussinger has a beat on it too, and so
Bryce has to throw it that quick, but he doesn't
rifle it in there too fast. It's like the perfect
balance of like it got there at the right time.
Teto McMillan recognizes that that was his bad. He needs
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to be more on time. But I think that explains
what Bryce does well, which is a combination of intelligence
and hutsba. You know, I think he knows what he has,
what he doesn't have, and I think he sees the
game well. And once he got more confidence late last season,
he was really going for throws and so he's kind
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of combining that intelligence with the little uh. Maybe the
Olds would say daring do you know a little daring do?
Speaker 5 (31:39):
And I think because when you when you talk about
the daring do the ability right to squeeze balls into places,
there's there's only right. We generally get this idea of
like a farm right or a Rogers and it's like
like Anthony Richardson fall eight feet off the ground the
entire way with no dip. But with Bryce there's this
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full range of arcs that are available. It's like the
back of a golf ball box where you.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
See the full, the full multive it.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
And so like when you when you generally put that
out there, it's like, oh, Bryce is a gun slinger.
He's out there wheeling and dealing and moving guys around.
Like people think, well, he doesn't have the size and
arm strength to do that. But it just looks different
and I think too, well, you know, as he immediately indicated, yeah,
it's not just get my head around quicker, but like
know that the ball is going to be in that
particular place because let's be honest, like through his career
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at Arizona, they were throwing they were throwing them all
kinds of stuff. Yeah, they didn't necessarily of an opportunity,
uh to get to But I do disagree because Jordan,
I don't think you can fix these people no, because
they're they're they're just and we I talked about it
after you know, the divisional weekend. These people are just
going to find the next person to say can't do
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some and they just go from person to person and
just say, oh yeah, this guy can't do it, this
guy and wants do it. They just say it about
somebody else.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
This goes back to how we started this. I think
You're just going to have to accept their Those haters
are just going to keep hating, accept their flaws, and
stop trying to fix them.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
No, but it's it's honorable that Jordan would like to
provide them with the information to allow them to fix themselves.
But it's it's fundamentally broken.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Or it's a very clever explain so much about my
dating life.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Guys, thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
You really got to change so much. It's like it's
like my memory loss that I started the show with.
At this point, Emica can't complain about me spacing or
forgetting something. She either just has to accept it or
been driven crazy or leave me. Those are like, wow,
the three options that she has. I did want to
get to a theory astic, I'm just saying those are
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the options real quick. I mean, she really loves Japan.
At some point when the kids graduate high school, you know,
we'll see hold non for dear life. I have a theory, Jordan.
You brought this this little vehicle Bryce young Haters as
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a way to sort of bring back how good your
take was a year ago on this show, which is
I think a good move as a takes woman.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
I love that you thought that I truly could not
remember what I said on last year's show, but I'm.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Stoked, pretty sure it was you pretty sure it was.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
I'm stoked it's all working out for Bryce Young as
it should.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
I'm going to do a broad one, and I'm doing
this because I think it's like the most important fixes
that can happen in the NFL. Quarterbacks. That's big. But
when they say, and by day I mean a new
offensive coordinator and his assistant coaches that I can fix
them talking about their offensive line, it is truly the
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quickest way to get from dreadful to maybe above average
in the NFL is to improve your offensive line from
embarrassing to average because suddenly it brings out the best
and all the other players on the offense that were
being held down, and it's just exponential. So if you
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can get from like a bottom five type of offensive
line to just middle of the pack, the whole world
can open up for you. And so I just thought
about the cases this year where that's most notable. Certainly
the Texans with their new offensive coordinator Nick Kayley. Like
that that's him believing he can fix them. Nick Kyley.
Clint Kobiak, who didn't really get it done for us
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or the Saints totally. That's at least the vision in Seattle,
taking a group that I think on paper it's actually
kind of talented and just making them average again when
they were so bad under you know, the Geno Smith regime.
Whoever was his offensive coordinator. You got Mike Josh McDaniels,
who I think's gotten slept on a little bit as
like the impact that he can have on this Patriots team.
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I just feel like there's not a lot of Josh
McDaniel's conversation going on here.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
I think that's because it's known we've been burned before.
It's like there's only so much conversation despite it being
fundamental to our existence about how much water you can drink,
Like there's like eight lasses a day. But I'm not
saying Josh mcdaniels's water well after hearing myself say.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
It, I mean, last time around, at least Mac Jones
was playing pretty well. Ramandre's playing well. Yeah. I'm just saying,
can he bring them back to a respectable level along
with the personnel I think he can his coaching. Can
Brian Callahan maybe year two with his dad built Callahan
with the Titans, and then the Cowboys under Brian Schottenheimer,
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who I think have enough twent so those are kind
of the I can fix them offensive lines. Out of
those five, I think at least two or three, oh pop,
and those teams will improve, you know, dramatically because of them.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Did you get a chance to watch Will Campbell's tape yet?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
I watched the game. I didn't go back and watch
all twenty two of Will Campbell. I also listened to
some good analysis of it, and I think it probably
supported what they've been saying in camp which is that
he's a dog in run game, that he's going to
really help open up their running game and that and
pass protection's up and down and we'll see.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Just curious.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, I watched the game. I didn't go back and
study him specifically. But they're why did you did you know?
I mean you don't like him? Yeah, that's not true. No,
not true.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
I didn't like I don't want to assign laborer, but
we could chop a Will Campbell greg real and it worked.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Real not be Well, he's the anti Drake May and
that I was pretty anti Will Campbell before the Patriots
took him. And then they took him, and I was
very pro Drake May before the Patriots took him, and
then they took him, so then it just it just
accentuates it.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
I'm just trying to fix you a little bit, you know,
I can.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
It's just that do it. It's just that dastardly Joe
Milton taking Travis Hunter away from me. Maybe Abdul Carter,
but uh probably Travis Hunter. With that Week eighteen win,
just then you get you get this Will Campbell, who's like, yeah,
in a different draft, he probably would have gone fifteenth though,
great glad they won four. Get get it to the
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cut up. I have one question for you. This isn't
a full I can fix them, but you, to me,
are the Trevor Whisper of this NFL media group supporter
because he's he's an option here. What do you think about?
Is he struggled enough to even make sense as and
I can fix them?
Speaker 4 (38:21):
No?
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Is there something about him that's always been missing? Can
Liam Cohen bring him that?
Speaker 5 (38:26):
I think right, it's just in terms of if the
Jags have that little bit of extra postseason success from
a few years ago when they when they're like, I
don't know that Trevor would be on anybody's mind in
like in terms of being discussed as fixable. He just
hasn't ascended to the levels that we've seen these other
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quarterbacks in the AFC go to. And then we just
for some reason feel like there's that significant drop, like
in terms of the general perception of Justin Herbert versus
Trevor Lawrence in terms of success, right, I don't.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
I think he's just better that I think you watch
him on a snap basis and and he's just better.
And so like even like a tow a tongue of
a low I would say, is just better.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Right in my mind, and like to not be to
that those guys level is not necessarily some like huge
detriment to like to say that Trevor needs to be fixed.
I think the Jacks need to be fixed. That will
definitely change the perception of Trevor Lawrence. But now I don't,
I don't know if he warrants fixing at this point.
I think he kind of just is.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
I would just like to see him, as I said
sitting one seed over last year almost to a tee,
I would just really like to see him take the
next step forward in developing his tools, in just developing
as a player, in just playing. It's almost like it
you can't almost like quantify. I mean the fumble, sure,
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but like you can't almost quantify some of that. You
just need to see more. You need to see more
from the offense. You need to see more from the passer.
You need to see more of him using his athletic gifts.
You just need to see more of this. And I
just think I hope that this is the group to
do it. They certainly think that this is the group
to do it because they hired him, so we'll see, yeah.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
And I think because you go to seasons where it's
like you feel like Gabe Davis is going to be
a significant contributor in late season, Brian Thomas Junior has
I think done enough to convince me that they're at
least offensively. Will be a general shift in perception for.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
The Jacksonville facial tutin running.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Hard and this little little modernization of the offensive coaching staff.
There's a lot, but Trevor Lawrence is kind of going
back to the theme of the show. He's kind of
like that that great catch you know that you're saying
you were talking about dating life or just and we're
talking about human nature like how much can you change?
And great catch checks every single box like a lot
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of good on paper and there's nothing wrong either. Well,
it's just that you're just missing something. You're not sure
what it is. I'm not sure either.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
Yeah, it's wins, it's perception.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Like now, I think it's more.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
The career will continue, Sean McVay will trade a first
round pick, he'll come to the Rams and win a
Super Bowl, like I think, like, okay, the parallels may
make sense.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Actually that could be it. And he obviously is getting
burned a little bit from being a number one overall
draft pick. But I do think five years in the
fact that I think the average person, even even someone
that you're you're admitting maybe he's behind, you know, if
he's a little like less than average when you're lining
up the thirty two quarterbacks, that's not where you want
to be. Oh listen, average, I think when you line
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him up, he's below sixteen at least. Right now, all right,
let's let's just acknowledge that we fixed everyone.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
I got one.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
I got to all right, one last I can fix.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
You're talking about people who are just searching for that
special something, you know, to like wake them up in
the morning, to make them feel a little bit more
alive than they previously have felt, and maybe are a little
bit broken, and that person. Finding that person perhaps would
would fix them, would heal parts of themselves they thought
headlong since deteriorated into the ether. So I'm talking about
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Jackson Dart potentially fixing Brian Dable.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Oh interesting, I.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
Want to play the sound of Brian Dable talking about
Jackson Dart's performance in the Giant's first preseason game for
your consideration, It's.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
About what I thought he would do.
Speaker 8 (42:28):
Efficient, effective, aggressive, confident in the pocket. Some stuff we
can work on, but.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
He's doing good.
Speaker 8 (42:37):
Look, there's things he can be better at, but we
missed some opportunities on third down, some drops that would
even been better for him and for us. But he's
a confident young player and he's improved since he's been here.
Still got a long way to go, but I enjoy
working with him. I like his demeanor on the sideline,
sees the game well. Not that we're getting We've got
a couple of blisses and things like that, but I'm
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glad he's sure so Wow.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
Okay, you might not think that this man sounds healed
quite yet. In fact, he tried to talk himself out
of it a few times verbally and audibly in that
press conference, where he would say something nice and then
pull it back just a little.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Am I Am I committing too hard? Am I?
Speaker 4 (43:20):
Two into this guy? And he I'll tell you what.
He used the word enjoy. I can count on one
hand the number of times I have heard Brian Dable
use the word enjoy while wearing Giant's logo. And he
also was saying he's glad he's here. He likes his demeanor.
And I swear he had a little twinkle in his
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eye as he talked.
Speaker 5 (43:42):
I can see it. I can see it. I also
saw and you know, for for coach day ball, for
everybody out there with short hair, you might need to
rock the sunscreen dog on the top or get a hat.
That's all some concerning levels at the top there. And
it's like we got at to make sure that the
top needs the sun.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
So he woke up uncomfortable the next day. How can you?
Why is that a lesson he's still learning? That does
make you a little worried about his ability to fix
anyone if he hasn't fixed that situation.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
If once he heals, the ali vera comes out.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
But but you can you can here because there is
and I know a lot of people attributed it to
you know, certain media contingencies, uh in New Jersey because
it's like, oh, they're they're hard on everybody. But it's like, no,
like coach Table sometimes doesn't seem like he's enjoying the
conversations he has and talking about Jackson dark sounds.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
You know what he saw, He saw a life raft,
He saw a potential future for his NFL career. On
the same day that he gave Josh Allen a big hug.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
And possibly burned his face off.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Yeah, and possibly burned his face off, he thought, Okay,
maybe this guy isn't gonna be Josh Allen, but maybe
he's gonna he's gonna continue my head coaching career. And yeah,
I would not be surprised to see Jackson Dart starting
football games for the New York Giants sooner than later.
But that's for another show. This was a beauty as always,
we did it, we made it. I think we fixed them.
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We didn't fix them, but we correctly identified the fixing
that will be going on. So what what are the
things that you got to work on?
Speaker 5 (45:23):
Patrick? The things that I have to work on, Yeah,
finishing tasks that need to be done, and telling the people.
I like the people I'm sitting with here, the people
in there, the people listening that I appreciate.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Them, Wow them, you do that, I think.
Speaker 5 (45:39):
Well I need I need to do it more because
because I love doing this with you.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Guys, appreciate that. But we got to end on that.
Let's play the music. That's beautiful. Fun day. Uh what
do you need to work on?
Speaker 4 (45:54):
No?
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Ye, we need more time for you. Later, we'll be back. Jordan.
You're gonna tell me about some joint practices in Minnesota,
like when we fixed everyone football is back. Mm hmm
Welcome to NFL Daily, where we are in Oxnard, California
to watch some Dallas Cowboys training camp practice. I'm Greg
Rosenthal and I am here with my Joy Taylor, with
my Jason McIntyre. Chris Babona, our producer volunteered really insisted
on sitting in the chair next to me for the
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top of this show, where we're just gonna rip through
some news. So our YouTube subscribers are in for a
treat today. That is how you sold yourself, and you
were very pushy about it that you could be my
Joy Taylor, and I'm Colin Ken.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'm here to serve you some softballs, Greg, So I'll
just give some smiles to the camera, ask some good questions. Okay,
we'll get through the stopper.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I love it. We're gonna throw to a segment we
did earlier in the studio with my good friends Patrick
Claibhon and Jordan Rodrigue. I really love this segment. It's
called I Can Fix It, and we go through different
players around the NFL that we think coaches or teams
can fix kind of reclamation type projects. So stay tuned
(01:06):
for that. We're going to go through seven items of
news before that, and then we're going to get to
the segment and everything we learn at Cowboys practice. I
wanted to give a shout out to We're going to
be putting up as a YouTube exclusive some takeaways from
the practice and a couple of interviews with Cowboys players
Demarvion Overshown and Dante Fowler. It's going to be a
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really good, in depth short view of the Cowboys to
check that out as a YouTube exclusive. Let's get into this, Chris,
I just like that this is making our actual producer,
Eric feel very uncomfortable. He didn't really like this.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I like, this is not a good idea, man. But
I don't know, I feel like a little like the
Wally Pip moment. You know, no, you know what we're
not looking for. We're not looking We have a lot
of co hosts. I love your energy, I love your
voice on the mic. But Eric is amazing running the
shows and making it sound great. Let's start with the
seven news items that you need to know. Number One,
(02:03):
Jordan Love went underwent surgery on his injured thumb. It
was on his left hand. He actually was able to
practice after suffering the injury in the preseason. They went
through one practice. They didn't like it.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
They say he could be back to practice as early
as next week. He will not play in the preseason.
This is one of those preseason injuries that truly doesn't
mean anything. Have you noticed, Chris, now you're kind of
into this that every single injury in training camp, every
report is like, oh, it's fine, it's fine. Now, everything's
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gonna be fine, everything's good for a week one.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Stafford, especially like that has been something you were very
early on as like, guys, shouldn't we be worried? And
I think now you were just like, you're right at
this point.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
This is this is what he's here for. Just to
tell me I'm right over and over. Stafford. By the way,
still not back at practice, so that's a good shout out.
I'm not really worried about the Jordan Love thing, a
little more worried about the land and Dickerson injury. The
last time we updated the news, we said he was
undergoing further tests. It was a knee injury. There's a
chance that he will be ready for Week one. The
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Eagles great guard Pro Bowl guard that they identified and
really developed. When he first went down with that injury,
you were worried he may have to, you know, miss
much of the season. So the fact that he has
a chance to play Week one is great news. Do
you know Chris the Week one opponent of the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I do not know, but it must be the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
He figured it out.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
It just must be because we're here in Austar.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
It is. That is the kickoff game. I feel like
if you want to have that sort of spot where
you're setting up the host, you need to know working
for the NFL, what is the NFL kickoff game. It's
like literally the biggest game of the entire year. So
that's a knock on you. But yeah, Dickerson got to
be back, and that's great news because I was a
little worried about their guard position. We got news on Wednesday.
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James Cook not only back on the field, he got
a new contract from the Buffalo Bills, thirty million dollars
guaranteed on a four year deal. I think it's a
team friendly deal, four for forty eight, so they didn't
break the bank, but he's getting a lot of guaranteed
money over the next two years. Had a feeling this
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was coming when he was back at practice on Tuesday,
and I really give the Bills a ton of credit
for doing things the right way. Here are the recent
draft picks, all from Cook's draft class that they've re
signed to long term deals. Khalil Shakir very good slot receiver,
Christian Benford, Greg Russo both plus starters at cornerback and
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edge dresher very valuable positions, and now James Cook. This
is a lesson for the team that we're about to
go cover the Dallas Cowboys, like, take care of your guys,
get the deals done early. It's also a lesson in
how consistent they have been at drafting. I know there's
been ups, there's been downs, but Buffalo overall in the
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Brandon Bean era has been very good. Compare that, for instance,
to the Quessea Dolpha Mensa era in Minnesota, where they
might not even have their entire twenty two draft class
by the end of this training game. The only man
left is ty Chandler on that draft class. Let's go
to the Browns. That is the number four item of
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news you need to know. On this Wednesday. Shouldur Sanders
was announced that he would start this preseason game by
Kevin Stefanski. If Dylan Gabriel was unable to go. Dylan
Gabriel doing a little more work at practice these days,
doing some eleven on Eleven's the bad news though, Bobona
should He got hurt an oblique injury at Wednesday's practice,
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was unable to finish the practice. As we're taping, we
don't know how serious this is. But I think my
big takeaway here is that all this is nice, we're
developing for the future, but Joe Flacco is their starter.
He's the one getting all the first team reps at practice.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Now, and I think that shoulder obviously his homecoming his
first game was incredible against the Panthers. But I still
I want to see Gabriel. I want to see him
in that environment, see what he could do could if
he could play. I would love to see it. And
I know Stefanski said he also does want to see
both backup quarterbacks in the preseason for sure, But I
do think, yeah, Flatco for Week One's that's the shot.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Roberts has a huge smile on his face because Brian
Schottenheimer is about to start a press conference right behind me.
It's all coming together. While but Bona's giving great analysis there.
We'll rip through it just a couple more injuries. So
the number five item you need to know Trevor Penning,
the guard for the Saints. He's going to be out
with turf tow according to Nick Underhill of New Orleans Football,
which is a multi week injury. That's bad news for
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their offensive line. Makai Becton, Remember the Eagles didn't want
to pay him at guard. It's kind of been quiet
there at Chargers camp. A big guy who struggled with
injuries in his career. Where has he been. He's been
gone for a couple of weeks. So you can combine that,
obviously with the injury to their starting left tackle Rashwan
Slater and then naj Harris having a Snapchat photo where
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his eye was pretty clearly closed. It's been a bad
camp for the Chargers. A former Charger, Tyrod Taylor, by
the way out for the rest of training camp. That
is the number seven item that you need to know
on this Weddes.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
That rounds out the list.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
This is what he's here for. This is why Babona
makes the big bucks. Let's get to our segment. I
can fix him with myself, Patrick and Jordan back on
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NFL Daily was about one year ago when a segment
debuted on this show that changed the game. That segment
is called God, I can fix him.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I can fix him.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You came up with this segment. Jordan, we're welcoming Patrick,
Claybahnd guys into the studio. Patrick, We're in a studio.
That was fun when I was back at Cowboys camp.
Please explain to me, Jordan, the genesis and the idea
behind I can fix them. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I mean we've all been there, right, We've all believed
we can fix that person. So when we care about
maybe it's someone we're dating, maybe it's someone in our
immediate family or extended family, maybe it's a friend, you know,
I can fix that person.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I can set them on the right course.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
In the NFL's case, it is the most I can
fix them league of all time. When you see coaches
take on other coaches, you know, discarded players. When you
see new coaches come in and overhaul systems and overhaul
position groups, when you see quarterbacks kind of get their second, third, fourth, fifth,
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maybe nineteenth win under them, it's all the epic ego
and hubris of the league thinking you can actually be
the one to finally fix that person, and girls, sometimes
you just can't.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
And and and then a rare example. It's a far
better practice the way it's done in the NFL than
out in the real world, where people are are people,
their unique products, and sometimes going into a relationship seeping
seeking to repair a person is not the ideal premise.
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So it's better in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Getting older is accepting that you're not gonna change anyone.
You can impact them absolutely, like and that's that's change,
and you can help, you can grow together. But there
are core fundamentals to a human that I think as
you get older you just accept like you just if
love is just accepting. And so we're going to try
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to find that love today. Patrick Beautiful. I want you
to I want you to start. You're the newcomer. I'm
going to start. I'm going to go right to you.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
In my research of last year's I Can Fix Him, Wow,
I do see a similar situation where I jumped in
and except I was in that seat and Jordan listening
over here.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
So this is you were on the show. Yeah, I
was on that show. I don't remember which I will take. No,
you can't fix me. You can't fix my memory.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
I did not remember either, and you have taken part
in significantly or episodes. It definitely resonated with us. I
will start with a relatively new gentleman to the National
Football League, that is one Pete Carroll, who has not
just come back with Jamal Adams once again. But I
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do want to throw honorable mentions to Devin White and
Jermaine Pratt because the the end of the run for
Devin White was a little weird, as was Jermaine Pratt.
Between those two guys, you've got almost ten thousand snaps
of football. But I want to discuss Jamal Adams here
because the idea of playing him at linebacker he was
probably abrasive to even though he's playing in the box.
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I mean, essentially you can make the case it's not
that much of a move. But to come back from
a significant knee injury and then the quad injury in
twenty twenty two, where a lot of people slept on
it's like, oh, we hear quad strains all the time.
It was a complete tear. He told Tyler Dunn when
he initially came back. He has a six ince scar
where they had to go in and you know, the
quad recepts. You know, That's why I called quad. There's
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four muscles in there. One was just a significant rupture,
so he was down to three essentially, and so it's
taken him out of time. He played very good in
the preseason game. Pete said he was pulling for him
to get back. It's a long haul with add difficult
injury and very Pete wise, he said, And shoot, I
thought he played well. And so I'm rooting for this
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to work out. And I don't necessarily think it's a fix,
but it's finally like these two beings being reunited in
a new place, and good luck to the river.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Without the pressure of the trade compensation and even the
contract that he in Seattle.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
And I can fix some league. Is Pete Carroll not
the most I can fix him coach?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Okay, so he is so much that Patrick and I
had the same idea here, and I think that's good.
I think that's great. I thought he's the ultimate I
can fix him coach. I mean you think about Gino.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I mean you always are thinking about Geno.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
That's true. You think about him just making players believe
in themselves in a way that they hadn't before. And
the reason I can feel confident saying that because usually
I don't know what to make of that sort of analysis.
Is just hearing the players talk about it, that that
has changed their lives, changed their career. Gino is one
of them, but he's he's far from the only one.
So many different Seahawks, especially defensive players, so I can
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fix him. Included Jamal Adams, It included Jermaine Pratt, Landon Roberts,
and Devin Why. Eric Stokes is a former first round
pick who's at cornerback starting for them. Tyree Wilson is
a guy who's already run through three head coaches now. Right,
as a top ten pick.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
I thought Tyre Wilson was the steal of the draft
in the top ten.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
And that was an awesome top ten. You do feel
bad sometimes for players that get drafted surrounded by like
all time greats. Right, he was just like, yeah, I'd
have to go through it to remember exactly, but it
was just like hit after hit and then it was
Tyre Wilson. And so that's Pete Carroll. And for me,
Pete Carroll, it's the entire defense. You know. It's because defense,
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much more than offense, I believe, is about cohesion and effort,
and it's not all about scheme and belief. It doesn't
have to all be about talent. And that's good, Jordan,
because I think if you're just grading defensive talent one
to thirty two, the Raiders have to be in the
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bottom handful of teams. It's not the very bottom. I
know they have Max Crosby, but other than that, we
need and I can fix some season out of Pete
Carroll to make this team just competitive and good enough
to compete.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah, I have no doubt. And you've seen this too.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
If you strip away again the talent level of the
roster in general, and you look more of what Patrick
Graham has done scheme wise, trying to scheme gout.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
The defensive coordinator.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Defensive coordinator of the Raiders, trying to scheme like the
scheme is smart. He is a very well respected assistant coach,
and I think pairing him with Pete Carroll brings that
extra energy, that extra like he is gonna just if
all else fails, He's going to need guys playing hard
for him, and Pete Carroll has always been able to
manufacture belief in that way to get a defense communicating
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to get a defense buying into a shared message. And
I think when you combine that with a genuinely very
smart scheme that just you need better players in every
phase of that defense except for one pass rusher spot.
Then I feel like this is an interesting combination. But
it is one where you you know they will have
that because Pete Carroll will get that.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
And it's it's always been a testament to Max Crosby
that he plays that many snaps, but it's also been
because forty percent of Max Crosby was better than what
the Raiders put on the field, right, And so if
they can find some of that depth. And I know
it's of course like we love Pete and the vibes
are always going to be immaculate with Pete, but there
is a talent in seeing where the deficits elsewhere in
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the league are and the ability to utilize talent, and
I think Pete is very very good at them.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Let's hear from Pete Carroll, just because you know we're
talking vibes the ultimate I can fix some coach, well.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Well, you get after him first off, like we did,
and then we have to make sure that we work together.
Like I said, a bunch of those were the young guys,
and we were still hard, counting and doing, you know,
all of the intricacies of our cadence. It's just we
didn't jive together, and we have to mix better and
make sure that we take care of those guys. Know
who you're working, you know, we worked ourselves instead of
working the defense today.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
That that was I love that. That was like him
being hard on the team. But even when he's being
hard on the team.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I'm smiling.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
It's just like a he makes you feel better about it.
I don't want to do a Peek Carroll impression. I
kind of do want to do a Peek Caroll.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I feel like you really want to do a people.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
We'll do it later in the show. All right, give
me another I can fix him.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Okay, my first I can fix him is more of
a third person. Oh, Jalen Ramsey, I think can fix
elements of the Steelers, and I think that the Steelers
can fix elements of Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Love that.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Okay, So every few years, Jalen Ramsey seems to like
want or need a change of scenery, whether it's because
of a contract situation as it was the last couple
of times, or it's just not working out with the
team that he was on. He went from Jacksonville to
Los Angeles where he won a Super Bowl, to Miami.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Now he's in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
So I think that this is a mutual I can
fix some situation because it's a really good change of
scenery for Jalen, who in interviewing him a few years ago,
we talked a lot about he needs a challenge. He
needs to be challenged in order to continue to push himself.
His biggest competitor is inside his own head, and to
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continue to find new jobs, new roles, new things that
he can do to sort of push the envelope and
be a tone setter. And so he will be that
tone setter in this defense as a hybrid safety corner
who they want to seem to keep on the field
not only to help them with rundowns and be really
physical in the box and in the slot and sort
of an unavoidable player in the middle of the field
against power slots, against tight ends, but then also drop
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back into a safety role like we're seeing with a
lot of these emerging more hybrid players. Jalen Ramsey can
still very much do that. I also think it's good
for the Steelers. Yeah, a mutual I can fix him
because that defense does need to evolve a little bit
and this position specifically, moving this position forward not just
in run support but also in pass coverage is a
next step, a next iteration of what the league is
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doing right now on offense, and the Steelers need to
do that on defense. And I think it's a it
is a very like tone setting physical position that he'll
be in, and that's really really good for this defense.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Yeah, there's obviously the costs in subtracting Minca to add
in Jalen Ramsey. Clearly most people would believe as I
think we do. The Steelers ultimate form would have been
to have them both there. They couldn't make that work
trade compensation wise, and so you end up with one
and the other. And I do think things had maybe
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gotten a little stagnant in terms of the way they
approach things with having the personnel and Minca back there
that you can just do things differently with Jalen Ramsey
and they haven't necessarily had the results. So yeah, you
throw Jalen Ramsey out there, and considering the division and
the tasks, right, like having to make split decisions with
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reads against the Ravens to Mike Gesicki and the Bengals. Yeah,
there's so many different places where a guy in that,
like say it like a star hybrid position can be in. Yeah,
you take one of the better players at that in
the NFL. It makes it work.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
And I want to see a little more creativity from
Mike Tomlin, you know that. I think it's a fair
criticism that he's been doing what he does and they
don't necessarily always deviate from that. And maybe Jalen Ramsey
helps to reignite the creativity when you just get two
really smart ball knowers in the same building and then
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you sprinkle on just like a healthy amount of crazy
with Darius Slay and Joey Porter Jr. Like that's a
that's a fun mix to Shawn Elliott's a little crazy
and it's like.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Okay, tink about who they're going against too, his number
one NFC West rival when he was playing in the
nfcc wes DK Metcalf, he'll be going to against him
in practice. And then also Aaron Rodgers is the one
throwing the ball, so like we're there's a lot going
on in Pittsburgh. But I think that somehow, and truly,
I mean this earnestly, Allen Ramsey is the absolute perfect
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fit in what's going on there right now in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I love that. I just want this team, which is
not won a playoff game since when two and sixteen
or something crazy. I was at the game that started
the streak, the AFC Championship game against the Patriots. Like,
let's get Mike Tomlin winning playoff games again. I think
he could do it if that secondary comes through. I'm
going to go with their quarterback from a year ago,
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Justin Fields now with the New York Jets. Let's just
bring him to a team that wants to focus on
what he does well. I think there's this idea with
quarterbacks that are great at running that you almost want
to diminish that skill set, not just as a coach
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but as an analyst, like, oh, yeah, it's great, but
like you know, Justin Fields also throws a really pretty
pass down the field, Like yeah, we know, Like he's
very accurate. Is he as like instinctive in advance getting
through his reads and everything else that comes along with position,
Similar to a guy like Trevor Lawrence who I was
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thinking about thrown in here. Maybe we'd have a minor conversation.
Maybe that's not his greatest strength at this point of
his career. So let's lean into what he does well
and build the whole thing out of Justin Fields's strength
and our team strength, which is the offensive line. Here's
Aaron Glenn after their preseason opener.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
I thought Justin got the guys getting off the huddle.
I thought Tanner did a really good job getting a
play calls and so the guys could play with temple
and play fast. It was good to see Justin use
his legs also, all right, so we know he has
that in his bag. The thing that I think he
showed for the most part is, man, we can call
the play, we have a shot, and it's the shots
out there. He can get it, to get it, chuck
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it down, all right, and he did a really good
job of that. So he was patient. He did everything
that we needed right to get this win and for
him to be the quarterback that we know that he
can be.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
So I love how he's talking about him.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
He's got a little Pete Carroll in him. Aaron Glenn,
I think they have similar strengths and I think they're
going to build him up.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Can you just imagine being justin Field and like someone's
talking about you at the lectern that way and not
asking you to be anything you're not, and in fact
accentuating what you're good at, recognizing things that you can
do that they are asking you to do, and to
play to some significant strengths that you do have with
the team that is dynamically built to help accentuate that.
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And like you can hear in his voice him saying
this with belief and conviction in the quarterback like that's
and I can fix a moment right there.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Some of the best running quarterbacks of all time to me,
started their careers and maybe even when they were peaking,
a lot of it really was deep shots, the run game,
check down, having a good offensive line, having a good
running game that is built in large part around the
strengths of them running and not getting it, not trying
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to do too much more. I think of the Steve
mcair Titans at their peak and like that that was
part of their equation. So as you know, one of
the last people that still believes that justin Fields can
be fixed, Patrick, you have to be thrilled with this, Yes, I.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Don't know necessarily that there's a a fix. That's like,
at a certain point, we've seen how explosive Justin Fields
can be and way he can contribute to wins, but
there's he hasn't been able to get that that level
of long term commitment right in a few different spots.
And you can go all the way back to the
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first rookie wage scale where you saw how teams were
incentivized to kind of take that middle late career player
and kind of toss him to the side in favor
of cheaper rookies because that that's the way things are.
And so in a lot of these situations that we
were discussing, they're these players who were twenty six, twenty seven,
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twenty eight years old, and perhaps there are opportunities kind
of get a little bit limited just because there's a
cheaper option that's out there. And so I think Justin
Fields will be fine right in terms of like how
he can play it. But to hear that, like, especially
when your career can be in this sort of limbo,
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it's got to be good for him to hear and
hopefully hopefully things go well.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I believe, all right, we've gone around the room one time.
We're going to do it again at least one more.
But at this point in the show, I did want
to mention the people that we fixed last year because
I think, at least in terms of projecting who could
be quote unquote fixed, we did a pretty good job.
We had Dave Canalis fixing Bryce Young, I think that
was yours. We had Kellen Moore fixing the Eagles. I
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didn't know they really needed to be fixed, but you
think about what was happening a year ago at this
time and the season that they were coming off.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Wow, that worked out pretty well, especially for Kellen Moore.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
And we had a few others that were fine. Tony
Pollard was one of them. Yeah, he had a good season.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Was that yours?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
A few others that were fine? I don't I don't
know who who was who? I don't know who was who.
Clint Kubiak was involved that one did not really.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Maybe this time I think you might.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Have gone Calvin Ridley, which wasn't wasn't bad or good.
But I also wanted to think about how this league runs,
that there are these guys that just like keep getting
passed around a little bit. As I can fix some candidates.
I would call them the I can fix them all stars.
So I'm just gonna name some of them now, Zach Wilson,
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Kenny Pickett, Marcus Mariota. It's a little early for the
music made because these are Unfortunately they're still getting passed around.
Devin White maybe in there. Sam Darnold, I think he'd
be I can fix them all Star.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
You've done that, man dirty all week.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Kyle Kyle Pitts is kind of becoming one of those guys.
Jeff Okuda has become one of those guys. And then
I would like to make an announcement on this show,
and with this music cranked up even louder, that Baker
Mayfield has officially graduated for I can fix him. He's fixed.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
What what if now Baker is the one doing in
the fixing.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
He's fixing coaching career.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Can we get Josh McDaniels down to Tampa Bay You'll
be the head coach somewhere.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I congratulations, Baker.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I'm so happy.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
You cannot be Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
You can't be fixed anymore.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
He's fixed. It's happened. Isaiah Simmons maybe the maybe the
ultimate all start here. But uh, Baker.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Mayfield, I've never heard the second.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Dinner he did it, buddy. All right, let's go around
the room again. We'll start with Patrick.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
Yeah, and I'll go right across the street. Because back
in April, the Chargers na not a lot of news fanfare. Hey,
they signed Trey Lance. Well, you know, why not, why
not sign Trey Lance, give him an opportunity, And we haven't.
We haven't seen a lot of Taylor Heineke. It has
been all Trey Lance in the preseason through two starts,
and Harball was crediting him, and the passing numbers were
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a little bit down in the Chargers second game, but
they he used his legs. Well, Harball loved that, so
he thought he had a heck of a game. And yeah,
we are Greg Roman and Harball away from fixing Trey
Lance and giving him an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Hey, I saw some Taylor Heineke live. It didn't last
that long, and it was on site and they were like,
give us some Trey Lance because we want to get
our guys some better looks. And the second Tray Lance
came in. I mean, the passing game didn't exactly explode,
but at least Trey Lance brought him right down the
field on a touchdown drive, using his legs, using his strengths,
and hitting a nice two point conversion two on a slant.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Last week when I was at Chargers camp there or
was it last week, It was sometime this summer, and
I saw Trey Lance and Justin Herbert and Jim Harbaugh
all standing together, and they were sort of just like
moving as one entity around the.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Practice field together.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
So it's like, you know, Ray Lance was absorbing everything
that Justin Herbert was receiving from Jim Harbaugh by a
sort of spatial osmosis, I guess, And so it was
really interesting to see him kind of he wants to
clearly be a sponge and soak up the teaching that
the first quarter the number one quarterback is getting, or
the collaboration communication that they have with each other. Jim
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Harbaugh another belief guy.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Right, There's a lot of similarities on the players and
the teams that were choosing. And you can just see
by his play on the field without knowing anything about
Trey Lance, that he's more comfortable and more confident. I
think in being a pro quarterback, I think he's going
to carve out a career.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Speaking of which, Okay, okay, this is my personal I
can fix you.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
To a certain gris.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I can fix him. We don't have the rights to
fix you by coldplay. They've you know, a lot of
publicity lately, they've.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Taken off, They've really started to make something of it.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
They've made it. We can't afford it, so I can
fix him.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Okay, I can fix but this is a group of people.
I can fix you, Bryce Young haters.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I really, Oh, can You're gonna do it?
Speaker 4 (29:08):
I was clocking all the short jokes and actually filing
them away for use on Greg at a later date.
I was clocking all the pain and all of the
frustration that this was your starting quarterback, the guy that
the franchise is pouring all of these resources into.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Bryce Young haters, I can fix you.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Bask in the training camp reports of Bryce Young throwing
at the ball around well revel and the anticipatory throws,
the confidence and comfort whether throwing on time. We're working
a little out of structure to create plays, and this
I love the most. We have a clip of Bryce
Young with an anticipation throw, and it is lightning fast
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and it's an anticipation throw and tet does a double
move off of the line of scrimmage into the end
zone and he can't get his head around quite fast
enough because it throws with such anticipation. He reckoni is
that he gives Bryce Young a thumbs up. But this throw,
the speed at which it comes out, it's tailor made
for building that chemistry between the two of them that
will continue as time passes as they both get their
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feet under them together.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
And I just love this type of throw.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
This is the type of really quick option play and
really quick outlet play that really benefits receivers who can
get open fast and really can capitalize on a defense
and put them on the back foot.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
And I just I really really like that.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
So once this timing gets down between the two of them,
then this is going to be a deadly combination.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
And I think you can see this.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
You could see this all over Bryce's tape from that
preseason game, the little that he did play creating out
a structure, getting throwing guys open in certain areas.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
This is exactly why they actually went after him.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
I love that clip, and when you see it from
both angles, you realize the rookie linebacker for the Browns,
Carson Trussinger has a beat on it too, and so
Bryce has to throw it that quick, but he doesn't
rifle it in there too fast. It's like the perfect
balance of like it got there at the right time.
Teto McMillan recognizes that that was his bad. He needs
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to be more on time. But I think that explains
what Bryce does well, which is a combination of intelligence
and hutsba. You know, I think he knows what he has,
what he doesn't have, and I think he sees the
game well. And once he got more confidence late last season,
he was really going for throws and so he's kind
(31:32):
of combining that intelligence with the little uh. Maybe the
Olds would say daring do you know a little daring do?
Speaker 5 (31:39):
And I think because when you when you talk about
the daring do the ability right to squeeze balls into places,
there's there's only right. We generally get this idea of
like a farm right or a Rogers and it's like
like Anthony Richardson fall eight feet off the ground the
entire way with no dip. But with Bryce there's this
(32:01):
full range of arcs that are available. It's like the
back of a golf ball box where you.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
See the full, the full multive it.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
And so like when you when you generally put that
out there, it's like, oh, Bryce is a gun slinger.
He's out there wheeling and dealing and moving guys around.
Like people think, well, he doesn't have the size and
arm strength to do that. But it just looks different
and I think too, well, you know, as he immediately indicated, yeah,
it's not just get my head around quicker, but like
know that the ball is going to be in that
particular place because let's be honest, like through his career
(32:32):
at Arizona, they were throwing they were throwing them all
kinds of stuff. Yeah, they didn't necessarily of an opportunity,
uh to get to But I do disagree because Jordan,
I don't think you can fix these people no, because
they're they're they're just and we I talked about it
after you know, the divisional weekend. These people are just
going to find the next person to say can't do
(32:54):
some and they just go from person to person and
just say, oh yeah, this guy can't do it, this
guy and wants do it. They just say it about
somebody else.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
This goes back to how we started this. I think
You're just going to have to accept their Those haters
are just going to keep hating, accept their flaws, and
stop trying to fix them.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
No, but it's it's honorable that Jordan would like to
provide them with the information to allow them to fix themselves.
But it's it's fundamentally broken.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Or it's a very clever explain so much about my
dating life.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Guys, thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
You really got to change so much. It's like it's
like my memory loss that I started the show with.
At this point, Emica can't complain about me spacing or
forgetting something. She either just has to accept it or
been driven crazy or leave me. Those are like, wow,
the three options that she has. I did want to
get to a theory astic, I'm just saying those are
(33:49):
the options real quick. I mean, she really loves Japan.
At some point when the kids graduate high school, you know,
we'll see hold non for dear life. I have a theory, Jordan.
You brought this this little vehicle Bryce young Haters as
(34:10):
a way to sort of bring back how good your
take was a year ago on this show, which is
I think a good move as a takes woman.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
I love that you thought that I truly could not
remember what I said on last year's show, but I'm.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Stoked, pretty sure it was you pretty sure it was.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
I'm stoked it's all working out for Bryce Young as
it should.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
I'm going to do a broad one, and I'm doing
this because I think it's like the most important fixes
that can happen in the NFL. Quarterbacks. That's big. But
when they say, and by day I mean a new
offensive coordinator and his assistant coaches that I can fix
them talking about their offensive line, it is truly the
(34:51):
quickest way to get from dreadful to maybe above average
in the NFL is to improve your offensive line from
embarrassing to average because suddenly it brings out the best
and all the other players on the offense that were
being held down, and it's just exponential. So if you
(35:11):
can get from like a bottom five type of offensive
line to just middle of the pack, the whole world
can open up for you. And so I just thought
about the cases this year where that's most notable. Certainly
the Texans with their new offensive coordinator Nick Kayley. Like
that that's him believing he can fix them. Nick Kyley.
Clint Kobiak, who didn't really get it done for us
(35:32):
or the Saints totally. That's at least the vision in Seattle,
taking a group that I think on paper it's actually
kind of talented and just making them average again when
they were so bad under you know, the Geno Smith regime.
Whoever was his offensive coordinator. You got Mike Josh McDaniels,
who I think's gotten slept on a little bit as
like the impact that he can have on this Patriots team.
(35:54):
I just feel like there's not a lot of Josh
McDaniel's conversation going on here.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
I think that's because it's known we've been burned before.
It's like there's only so much conversation despite it being
fundamental to our existence about how much water you can drink,
Like there's like eight lasses a day. But I'm not
saying Josh mcdaniels's water well after hearing myself say.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
It, I mean, last time around, at least Mac Jones
was playing pretty well. Ramandre's playing well. Yeah. I'm just saying,
can he bring them back to a respectable level along
with the personnel I think he can his coaching. Can
Brian Callahan maybe year two with his dad built Callahan
with the Titans, and then the Cowboys under Brian Schottenheimer,
(36:38):
who I think have enough twent so those are kind
of the I can fix them offensive lines. Out of
those five, I think at least two or three, oh pop,
and those teams will improve, you know, dramatically because of them.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Did you get a chance to watch Will Campbell's tape yet?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
I watched the game. I didn't go back and watch
all twenty two of Will Campbell. I also listened to
some good analysis of it, and I think it probably
supported what they've been saying in camp which is that
he's a dog in run game, that he's going to
really help open up their running game and that and
pass protection's up and down and we'll see.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Just curious.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, I watched the game. I didn't go back and
study him specifically. But they're why did you did you know?
I mean you don't like him? Yeah, that's not true. No,
not true.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
I didn't like I don't want to assign laborer, but
we could chop a Will Campbell greg real and it worked.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Real not be Well, he's the anti Drake May and
that I was pretty anti Will Campbell before the Patriots
took him. And then they took him, and I was
very pro Drake May before the Patriots took him, and
then they took him, so then it just it just
accentuates it.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
I'm just trying to fix you a little bit, you know,
I can.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
It's just that do it. It's just that dastardly Joe
Milton taking Travis Hunter away from me. Maybe Abdul Carter,
but uh probably Travis Hunter. With that Week eighteen win,
just then you get you get this Will Campbell, who's like, yeah,
in a different draft, he probably would have gone fifteenth though,
great glad they won four. Get get it to the
(38:06):
cut up. I have one question for you. This isn't
a full I can fix them, but you, to me,
are the Trevor Whisper of this NFL media group supporter
because he's he's an option here. What do you think about?
Is he struggled enough to even make sense as and
I can fix them?
Speaker 4 (38:21):
No?
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Is there something about him that's always been missing? Can
Liam Cohen bring him that?
Speaker 5 (38:26):
I think right, it's just in terms of if the
Jags have that little bit of extra postseason success from
a few years ago when they when they're like, I
don't know that Trevor would be on anybody's mind in
like in terms of being discussed as fixable. He just
hasn't ascended to the levels that we've seen these other
(38:47):
quarterbacks in the AFC go to. And then we just
for some reason feel like there's that significant drop, like
in terms of the general perception of Justin Herbert versus
Trevor Lawrence in terms of success, right, I don't.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
I think he's just better that I think you watch
him on a snap basis and and he's just better.
And so like even like a tow a tongue of
a low I would say, is just better.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Right in my mind, and like to not be to
that those guys level is not necessarily some like huge
detriment to like to say that Trevor needs to be fixed.
I think the Jacks need to be fixed. That will
definitely change the perception of Trevor Lawrence. But now I don't,
I don't know if he warrants fixing at this point.
I think he kind of just is.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
I would just like to see him, as I said
sitting one seed over last year almost to a tee,
I would just really like to see him take the
next step forward in developing his tools, in just developing
as a player, in just playing. It's almost like it
you can't almost like quantify. I mean the fumble, sure,
(39:53):
but like you can't almost quantify some of that. You
just need to see more. You need to see more
from the offense. You need to see more from the passer.
You need to see more of him using his athletic gifts.
You just need to see more of this. And I
just think I hope that this is the group to
do it. They certainly think that this is the group
to do it because they hired him, so we'll see, yeah.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
And I think because you go to seasons where it's
like you feel like Gabe Davis is going to be
a significant contributor in late season, Brian Thomas Junior has
I think done enough to convince me that they're at
least offensively. Will be a general shift in perception for.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
The Jacksonville facial tutin running.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Hard and this little little modernization of the offensive coaching staff.
There's a lot, but Trevor Lawrence is kind of going
back to the theme of the show. He's kind of
like that that great catch you know that you're saying
you were talking about dating life or just and we're
talking about human nature like how much can you change?
And great catch checks every single box like a lot
(40:56):
of good on paper and there's nothing wrong either. Well,
it's just that you're just missing something. You're not sure
what it is. I'm not sure either.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
Yeah, it's wins, it's perception.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Like now, I think it's more.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
The career will continue, Sean McVay will trade a first
round pick, he'll come to the Rams and win a
Super Bowl, like I think, like, okay, the parallels may
make sense.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Actually that could be it. And he obviously is getting
burned a little bit from being a number one overall
draft pick. But I do think five years in the
fact that I think the average person, even even someone
that you're you're admitting maybe he's behind, you know, if
he's a little like less than average when you're lining
up the thirty two quarterbacks, that's not where you want
to be. Oh listen, average, I think when you line
(41:40):
him up, he's below sixteen at least. Right now, all right,
let's let's just acknowledge that we fixed everyone.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
I got one.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
I got to all right, one last I can fix.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
You're talking about people who are just searching for that
special something, you know, to like wake them up in
the morning, to make them feel a little bit more
alive than they previously have felt, and maybe are a little
bit broken, and that person. Finding that person perhaps would
would fix them, would heal parts of themselves they thought
headlong since deteriorated into the ether. So I'm talking about
(42:11):
Jackson Dart potentially fixing Brian Dable.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Oh interesting, I.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
Want to play the sound of Brian Dable talking about
Jackson Dart's performance in the Giant's first preseason game for
your consideration, It's.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
About what I thought he would do.
Speaker 8 (42:28):
Efficient, effective, aggressive, confident in the pocket. Some stuff we
can work on, but.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
He's doing good.
Speaker 8 (42:37):
Look, there's things he can be better at, but we
missed some opportunities on third down, some drops that would
even been better for him and for us. But he's
a confident young player and he's improved since he's been here.
Still got a long way to go, but I enjoy
working with him. I like his demeanor on the sideline,
sees the game well. Not that we're getting We've got
a couple of blisses and things like that, but I'm
(43:00):
glad he's sure so Wow.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
Okay, you might not think that this man sounds healed
quite yet. In fact, he tried to talk himself out
of it a few times verbally and audibly in that
press conference, where he would say something nice and then
pull it back just a little.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Am I Am I committing too hard? Am I?
Speaker 4 (43:20):
Two into this guy? And he I'll tell you what.
He used the word enjoy. I can count on one
hand the number of times I have heard Brian Dable
use the word enjoy while wearing Giant's logo. And he
also was saying he's glad he's here. He likes his demeanor.
And I swear he had a little twinkle in his
(43:41):
eye as he talked.
Speaker 5 (43:42):
I can see it. I can see it. I also
saw and you know, for for coach day ball, for
everybody out there with short hair, you might need to
rock the sunscreen dog on the top or get a hat.
That's all some concerning levels at the top there. And
it's like we got at to make sure that the
top needs the sun.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
So he woke up uncomfortable the next day. How can you?
Why is that a lesson he's still learning? That does
make you a little worried about his ability to fix
anyone if he hasn't fixed that situation.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
If once he heals, the ali vera comes out.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
But but you can you can here because there is
and I know a lot of people attributed it to
you know, certain media contingencies, uh in New Jersey because
it's like, oh, they're they're hard on everybody. But it's like, no,
like coach Table sometimes doesn't seem like he's enjoying the
conversations he has and talking about Jackson dark sounds.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
You know what he saw, He saw a life raft,
He saw a potential future for his NFL career. On
the same day that he gave Josh Allen a big hug.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
And possibly burned his face off.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Yeah, and possibly burned his face off, he thought, Okay,
maybe this guy isn't gonna be Josh Allen, but maybe
he's gonna he's gonna continue my head coaching career. And yeah,
I would not be surprised to see Jackson Dart starting
football games for the New York Giants sooner than later.
But that's for another show. This was a beauty as always,
we did it, we made it. I think we fixed them.
(45:13):
We didn't fix them, but we correctly identified the fixing
that will be going on. So what what are the
things that you got to work on?
Speaker 5 (45:23):
Patrick? The things that I have to work on, Yeah,
finishing tasks that need to be done, and telling the people.
I like the people I'm sitting with here, the people
in there, the people listening that I appreciate.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Them, Wow them, you do that, I think.
Speaker 5 (45:39):
Well I need I need to do it more because
because I love doing this with you.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Guys, appreciate that. But we got to end on that.
Let's play the music. That's beautiful. Fun day. Uh what
do you need to work on?
Speaker 4 (45:54):
No?
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Ye, we need more time for you. Later, we'll be back. Jordan.
You're gonna tell me about some joint practices in Minnesota,
like when we fixed everyone football is back. Mm hmm
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