September 19, 2025 • 36 mins
Gregg Rosenthal and Nick Shook are back with another late-night recap of football action, this time covering a 31-21 Buffalo Bills victory over the Miami Dolphins. Josh Allen added another signature highlight to his reel, Tua Tagovailoa was intercepted in crunch time and the Dolphins are 0-3... meaning head coach Mike McDaniel could be on the hot seat. All of the best TNF action and more on the latest from NFL Daily!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The shut up with three to eight verning where's the snap.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Back to pass fires a dinner septic picked up by
Terrell Bernard, tell me the other way and out of
bounds at.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
The forty yard line.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Terrell Bernard, mister fourth corner comes.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Up huge to all like a book.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Oh and it was a bad ending once again to
that book for the Miami Dolphins, thirty one to twenty one.
The Buffalo Bills win on Thursday Night Football over the Dolphins.
That was Chris Brown on WGR. We are getting used
to hearing Chris Brown at the end of these games
because the Bills just keep winning three to zero on
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the season. Another efficient offensive performance by the Miami Dolphins
offense Nick Shook just until the moment that they needed
a game winning drive and then a big time mistake
by Tua.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Yeah, and the third straight different, different style of game
for the Bills. They have a furious comeback in Week one,
they have a dominant performance against the Jets. In Week two,
they win a close one because their defense steps up
on a night in which their defense couldn't get off
the field against Tua's improvisation. Not the most high scoring,
entertaining game, but an entertaining game if you like close
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games with a bit of a chess match going on
in the second half between these two teams.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, it had an early season Thursday night feel to
it in some regards, and yet it was intriguing. I
can't say it was shocking, Nick, because it took me
all of about ninety seconds in the show to bring
up the fact that I hit this score exactly right,
thirty one to twenty one on game debut. I could
go three more years without hitting one game score right.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
So I'm gonna mention that.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
But the way they got there with great running really
by both teams, very efficient, no turnovers until that play
by Tua and two offenses shook.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I'll start here.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
That to me were the symbols of you know what
happened to my beautiful game? Like there were no deep
passes in this game. You know how many throws Josh
Allen made that even went over ten yards? Can you
guess Nick suck?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Let's say I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say three.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
One and he didn't complete it. It was a dime.
It could have been a touchdown. And the defender who
was that on that play, Isaiah Davis or something made
a deflection just at the last second to prevent a
touchdown on a nice throw by Josh Allen. He didn't
attempt anymore. And I can't kill him because he didn't
really need to. I think they watched that tape from
the Dolphins in the Patriots last week and saw the
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Dolphins just leaving wide open receivers underneath. And if you're
gonna give us eight nine yards a pop, will take it.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
And for most of the night it worked out.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
And then on the other side, you know, before we
got on you noted it's it's not too often you
see a guy throw the ball thirty four times for
one hundred and forty six yards. That's what Tua did,
you know, under four five five yards per attempt. And
I only think he attempted. Let's look, he had many
in the intermediate zone, one deep, but he only completed
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three of them, three of ten over ten yards. So
it was just like a dink and dunk and dink
and dunk and running type of game. And ultimately, were
you ever, like, actually thinking that the Bills were going
to lose this game?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
No, I thought that the Dolphins might tie the game,
and the Bills would find a way to win, and
they'd win by one possession, maybe by three points. Although
I don't know if you can entirely trust Matt Brater.
He had a bit of an up and down to night.
But what you know, I think about that one deep ball.
I know exactly which one it was. It was a
shot down the scene to Tyreek and it was a
bit of a desperate heave by Tua, and it really
I think captured a lot of how this game played
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out between these two teams, because the big story for
me is Buffalo's ability to get two off his spot
and force him to improvise both kind of hands stringing,
undercutting their offense early, and then he adj justed and
was able to make plays in the second half to
keep them in this game. But even with the score
being tied, to answer your initial question, I never quite
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felt like the Dolphins were going to win this game
because it took so much, such an effort just to
get to the end zone, because there weren't the explosive
plays that it just felt like eventually, because the Bills
are the better team, they were going to win out
and they did.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah, I get the instinct to give them a pat
on the back for giving us a good show. And
I do get that it's a little bit of a
moral victory. You're listening to you know, Kirk herb Street
and Al Michael's talk about them like, you know, they
deserve metals of valor for trying to harden a difficult situation.
And it is difficult. You know, the vultures are circling.
There are reports before the game, one from r Ian
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Rappaport who was on Amazon Prime saying that the owner
of the Dolphins quote doesn't want to fire Mike McDaniel,
but that had some caveats. If fans stop showing up,
news flash, they will stop, you know, showing up if
they keep losing. And then if the players look like
they're quitting on Mike McDaniel, which we haven't seen. The
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last two weeks have just been normal games that show
the cracks in the Dolphins, but they're plenty competitive. After
the first ugly performance against the Colts, unfortunately, the record
is what it is.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
It's still zero to three.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
You still lost what I think seven straight now to
the Bills, and it's a matchup problem and you're in
now year four of Mike McDaniel you wanted to start
moving forward. Before we get into all that, I do
want to give the Bills some love because ultimately their offense,
Nick is playing with a pretty small margin for error.
They needed to hit almost all these touchdown drives tonight
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to make sure that they won, and they went out
and did it, and I think it shows a more
mature Josh Allen. One thing that stuck out to me
was just how quick his decisions were. So he's getting
rid of the ball really quickly. He knew exactly what
he wanted to do when he scrambled, which was very
rare tonight. Only a few times he was quick and decided,
you know, when to do. So I think he's just
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making smart football decisions and playing with a maturity at
this stage of his career of doing exactly what he
needs to do.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
And this is what this game kind of required out
of him. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I actually really like this matchup because it was a
good comparison between two quarterbacks who are just different at
different levels. You know, Tua has to try to figure
out how to improvise and it's not pretty at times.
Sometimes he has to cut the field in half in
his reads just because he can't get to the other
side of his progression in time, or he's just not
going there. He's missing open guys because primarily he doesn't
have time to throw. And he's not a guy that
ever really looks comfortable improvising. Josh Allen improvising is like
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just part of his game. Like there are some plays
where the first reasons out there and he immediately takes
off and makes you pay. The Dolphins are committing, you know,
Tyrell Dobson to spy him and it's not really working.
There's one time where Alan scrambles for a big game,
just shy the line to gain and Dotson flies in
and tries to you know, finish off the tackle because
of course you're not going to give up and pull
up on Josh Allen scramble. He could take that to
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the house. That causes some Bills players to get a
little you know, irritated with how that play finished. But
it's a great example of just the fact that this
is a guy who's a weapon with his feeding and
obviously with his arm, and it shows why he's an
elite quarterback, why he's the raining and NFL MVP.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Yeah, I follow some Bills fans on Blue Sky and
I'm listening to them, will you let Josh Allen actually
be Josh Allen in this game. I'm thinking Josh Allen's
doing what he wants to do because the idea was like, like,
let the shackles off. He's not going deep at all
and they will need that. And there were a couple
drives in the second half where they did eventually punt
where you know, it didn't work out ultimately, though, he
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threw the ball twenty eight times for two hundred and
thirteen yards and three touchdowns. And you know, any complaints
about not improvising or not giving us enough entertainment, I'll
send you to the first quarter of this game.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Wait when he got one of the most fun touchdowns
of the year to Spencer Hawes, a Yale graduate, scoring
a touchdown on Thursday Night Football.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Allen drew center on first and goal from the five.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Motion from Hawes, fakes the snap, Allan gonna roll left
looking for someone in the end Z and now shovel
passes it complete to Jackson Hawes for his first career
touchdown from five yards out.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
It reminds you of Brett Farv a little. He flicks
the ball while he's looking one way, sends it another.
It almost felt like early in this game it was
too easy for him and he was just trying stuff
out because he tried another flick across the body a
drive later further down the field to a receiver that
wasn't even that open, and it felt a little unnecessary,
and it was just like, yeah, I'm Josh Allen, like
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I can try things like this.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
It was a flick that probably could have been like
a floated pass, like a traditional throw, like just a toss.
Didn't need to necessarily flick that ball. But it just
shows that exactly what you said, which is that he's
playing freely. He knows he's at the peak of his
powers and that this offense runs through him, and that
no defense really has a real answer for him, and
he can do whatever he wants, including taking your risks sometimes.
And you know, it's one of those things where like
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when it works the first time, sudden you feel emboldened
and I'm just gonna try it again because it worked
on that touchdown pass. It's funny because on drive, you know,
the Dolphins come out strong and they score a touchdown,
they get a big kick return to set themselves. They
go down score touchdown. I'm like, oh, okay, they're gonna
be a little punchy here. This is gonna be maybe
a close game. And the Bills go right down the field. Yes,
and and Alan caps it with that flip and I'm like, ah, yes,
But then you must remember you are playing the Buffalo
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Bills Miami Dolphins, and this is going to be a
bit of a long night when you have to stop
this quarterback. It's it's really fun to watch, like he's
he's a top my QB Index for a reason for
plays like that. He's at the people.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Ooh spicy. How high is Dak Prescott right now? I
should be he's in the top ten?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Oh, top ten?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I mean, I know the QB Index has taken into
previous years, but he might be.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
He might be top three, top one.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
For me, he's not top all. Look it up right now.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Five. I don't know who's I got him at eight.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Okay, but you're you're taking into more than just these
two games so far.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I was just saying two games.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
By the way, I apologize to Jackson Hawes Uh scoring
his first touchdown in his NFL career. Before tonight, he'd
barely run any routes at all, and now he gets
a couple catches in this game. I called him Spencer Hawes,
who was a top ten pick by the Sacramento Kings
in the NBA about ten years ago.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Who do you remember Spencer Hawes as because I remember
him as a seventy sixer.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
I barely remember him. I don't know how that name
was in my head. But yes, a nice moment for Hawes,
who's mostly out there blocking. And while we're talking blocking,
this Buffalo run game is where everything starts, and the
threat of Josh Allen is important. But tonight it's not
like it was a lot of RPO nonsense or anything
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like that. It's just their straight ahead running game. James
Cook goes nineteen for one oh eight again, and his
success rate for the season is just through the roof.
He is taking advantage of great blocking and then he
is making extra plays once he gets to the second
level a lot of yards after contact. They actually had
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a rushing success rate tonight four fifty per set, and
that was much lower, I'm much higher until late in
the game, and I think that includes the last cup,
in the last drive where they were just you know,
trying to get the clock to run out.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
So I've been really impressed by them.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
And one thing that stands out, you can you can
tell me what you think when you look at the
blocking scheme and the play calling and everything. I think
the wide receivers block really well, like the tight ends
block well. And then you see all the wide receivers
including Keon Coleman out there really effective on the perimeter
in terms of their blocking too.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah, I would like Bills fans to understand one thing.
You're not going to get the explosive plays you yearn
for on a consistent basis because you don't have field
stretching weapons. And that's fine because you've traded stretching the
field for really good blocking all across the other ten
guys in the field, and it's producing a very balanced offense.
It's producing first hass for James Cooking, which he goes
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seven for like seventy four, which is an insane rate.
And it just makes you a more threatening team and
a tougher team to defend, because not only do you
have to worry about the NFL MVP at quarterback, but
you have a running back who is dynamic, a running
back who has great vision, great burst, and also makes
guys miss. He's hard to bring down. He'll rip off
a big one. Your explosive plays are probably gonna come
on the ground about as often as they come through
the air because you have James Cook and thank god
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Brandon Bean finally figured out how to get James Cooked
to the table and get that contract done, because wow,
it'd be a lot different story if he wasn't on
the field.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Oh, he was never going anywhere.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
But they they treated him well like they should, even
though he had still a year on his contract. I'm
surprised Ray Davis isn't getting more run because he's a
good backup, but you didn't even need him tonight. Ty
Johnson's in there as a good third down back so
they can use those guys more. And he had a
key third down pickup where the Dolphins were just expecting
them to pass even in a short yarded situation because
he's out there like they have a lot of weapons.
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Like Kincaid had a nice night, five for sixty six,
had a touchdown, could have scored another if he if
he stayed a little more upright, but Minko Fitzpatrick got
him down at the goal line and Kean Coleman went
three for twenty and yet I've been impressed each and
every game. I've seen something really good that he's done,
a good contested catch on a third down. I like
Kean Coleman. You mentioned the touchdown drive. So the Dolphins
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tie it twenty one all in the fourth quarter. We
got a real game here, and then the Bills just
do what they do. They went right down the field,
finishing with a touchdown to Khalil Shakir.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Shakira in motion left to right and now in an
orbit motion back to the left side, back to pass.
It's a screen pass to Shakir as a blocker in
front facing.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
To the end zone, and he's in.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It's a fifteen yard screen pass for a touchdown as
Shakir got great blocking down field, got up the sideline
and into the end zone.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
And the Bills have the lead back again.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah, I think that was Dawson Knox with some good
blocking there down the field.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
So this is a good time.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Well, let's pivot over to the Dolphins side, where the
defense just hasn't provided a lot of resistance. There wasn't
a lot of hope, at least in my mind, on
that drive that they were going to make a stop.
Nick there. They're paying a lot of guys up front tonight.
I don't think they really had a chance to make
much of an impact because Josh Allen was getting rid
of the ball so quickly.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Like what are you seeing out of this Dolphins defense?
Speaker 4 (14:11):
You know, they get pressure or they at least cause
a bit of havoc up front. The rest of the
picture is inconsistent. And we know the injuries that they've
dealt with in the secondary, and they lost defensive back.
They lost Jack Jones for like a play like it
was almost in succession.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Jason Marshall, their slot corner, also was knocked out of
this game. Yeah, and then Jack Jones came back in.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Yeah, So you're thin, like your thin back there. And
we talked before the season about their investment was very
much in their front seven, and you know, he had
a penalty that was just completely unnecessary tonight. But I
have like the way that Jordan Brooks has played for
the first three weeks of the season. I thought that he's,
you know, a nice linebacker in that group, and so
they're going to keep you competitive. It's just a matter
of you know, getting teams off the field. They did
a great job in the second half. I thought that
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early on it felt like Anthony Weaver was a step
behind Joe Brady, and then we got to the second
half and it felt like Weaver was a step ahead
and Brady was playing a little bit conservative in his
play calls. They were taking a lot of short passes
that the Dolphins were all over. It was a good
chess match, a good back and forth. So like, I
can't put high expectations on the Dolphins offense right now
because they've been very hit or missed, but they were
more efficient tonight. They did get into a rhythm in
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the second half. So it's hard to say which side
is better, right, Doe.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
The offensive side is better the defense.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Because here's the thing. The defense does stink, except they
forced three punts in the second half and kept them
in the game. It's just that they didn't capitalize.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
So I'm looking at it here and I'm with you.
That was my feel from the game.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Oh, the Dolphins defense, they actually competed, They figured out something.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
They were trying a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
I sometimes I'm looking at all the crazy, you know
things that Weaver is throwing at them, and throwing at
the bills in the first half, and none of it's
really working. I'm thinking, does he have the personnel and
the continuity to really do all this crazy stuff in
the end? You know, in the first half, they gave
up two touchdowns in a missfield goal. They did force
two punts in the middle of that third quarter, but
sandwich between that was another couple of touchdowns and field goals.
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So I think we are three games now into the
season and they've had a total of four stops. So
they had none against the Colts, they forced two punts
against the Patriots, gave up scores or field goal attempts
on every other one, and the same thing tonight. It
was just a low possession game where they're you know,
giving up these longer drives, and especially their offense is
going on these longer drives. It's rough and on the
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other side, like this used to be one of the
most exciting offenses in the league, and they were reasonably
efficient tonight. You know, they didn't turn it over until
that interception, and so before that you had three touchdowns
on seven drives, like on a per drive basis, that
would lead the league over the course of the season.
Scoring three points to drive like that, that's great, but man,
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they are working hard to do it. And you mentioned
the third downs that Tua was pulling off actually in
that touchdown drive at the end of the second quarter,
Like asking him to play that game is to me
like a sign it's not really the Dolphins offense that
you want to see.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yes, but actually do this. It was kind of a
gross game by halftime, because like they got down there
and scored, and the whole way down was just like
you're living on the razor's edge, Like hold onto the
side of your seats here, because this is going to
be a wild ride. It was like the pressure was
affecting to Like I said earlier, he was basically forced
to like only take half the field. He was missing
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open guys, and yet he was finding ways to complete
passes or at least extend drives. Tyreek Hill makes a
phenomenal catch in front of two defenders and just not
a phenomenal catch, but a phenomenal catch and run because
he's just that fast. He's able to outrun two guys
to get to the line to gain to extend that drive,
and by the time they get in the end zone,
I was like, well, that's good for them, but god,
it was chaotic getting down there. It was not clean offense.
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It just happened to work. The second half was much
better for them offensively. Yeah, you're right, like, this is
the strength of their offense. It's just about consistency and
it's about details. Like the details kind of lost them
this game, more on the defensive side and special teams
than offense. Of course, that interception was kind of an
example of Tua immediately putting his head in one spot
and being like I'm looking here, and the defense reading
it and him not seeing a blind spot. And I
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have some issues with the way that he the speed
at which he gets through his progressions, but he was
sped up all night, and so it's kind of difficult
to hold that against him when you know that he
was sped up all night. The two things that I
took away for it more than anything, with that he
does not trust his offensive line, and he breaks he
doesn't slide away from pressure very well because he's just
constantly like, I know, I don't have time to throw.
But the beauty of that is that they were that
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touchdown drive that they pulled off in the second half.
That throw to Tyreek Hill was exquisite. That was two
guys who have played with each other for a long time.
I know he's going to be there. I'm going to
throw it up off a backfoot with the guy in
my face and cap off the most impressive drive of
the night for them.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, like that's the thing. He really did pull off
three great third and longs and there was another one
where he ran for in that drive and him having
to do that is not a great sign. At that point,
he was twelve or eighteen for sixty six yards, which
is crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
And they were tied in this game.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Because you know, we've been so hard on the Dolphins here,
let's listen to the happy moment from twa tongue Bailoa
because they did keep it close, and when they finished
off that second quarter drive, I thought, Okay, we're actually
in this game.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Four cracks of the adsor fact to throw slat pattern
Wnald touchdown highs.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Throw, great call and a terrific patter by water.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
What a great drive.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Wow, one of my favorite touchdown celebrations.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Jalen Watdall finishes with five for thirty nine and a touchdown,
rewarding his fantasy owners that had some faith tonight, like
tyreek Hill, I thought other than that one drop which
was big on the deep ball and that was a
it was a balloon. But ultimately I think tyreek Kill
would admit that he should have that ball. He jumps
and gets his hands on it. He finishes with five
catches forty nine yards, a touchdown, and an eventual backflip
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on that throw that you were talking about in the
fourth quarter, which was just a terrific route by tyreek Kill. Ultimately, though,
like it's a good running game, a Chan and Ali
Gordon ran the ball very well. Their success rate has
been actually pretty consistently high all season and was excellent tonight.
I have questions about the Bills defense overall, like long term,
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Oh you to two, what are your questions?
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, I'm just I'm glad that we've gotten there. Because
you made the point about the Dolphins maybe not having
the personnel on that side of the ball. I don't
know if the Bills do either, and I don't know
if Sean McDermott has admitted that yet. Because that sequence
that led to that touchdown just before the end of
the first half was a display of how McDermott. I
think trust his guys more than he should in the
way that he approaches defense. They ran a lot of man,
they gave a lot of man looks, and that's fine,
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But that instance when Tua throws a touchdown pass, I
have no idea why they called the defense that they
called like they're double mugging the a gap. They got
Tredavious White out wide against Jalen Waddle playing soft off coverage.
You're going to bring pressure, why not try to press
the line, because if you're gonna speed up the quarterback,
make the route harder to run. He plays often it's
the easiest slant I've seen a long time, and it
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was one of many where I think in the second
half when the Dolphins were, you know, marching down the
field slowly, I mean crawling down the field kind of.
There were a couple of instances in which they convert
third downs, a lot of passes to Waddle near or
outside the numbers, where they're showing pressure and changing coverage,
rolling the shell at the last second and asking Cole
Bishop to run from the hash to the numbers like
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an undercut a route. And I'm just like, do you
understand that you don't really have the guys to do
all this exotic stuff, that you don't need to necessarily
do all this exotic stuff. I think that's a big
reason why that they were They struggled to get stops
in this game tonight, and it's correctable, but it concerns
me just about their long term approach. They need to
look in the mirror a little bit and be like,
maybe we shouldn't get that adventurous with our play calling Defensively.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, I don't think it's going to show up for them.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
They're going to have such an interesting regular season, and
I think their fans might get annoyed because I think
this defense is going to struggle. Our friend Jordan Rodrigg
is right with you, and she has big concerns about
this defense. And yet it might not really show up
because they're going to keep winning. Like the AFC East
out of division schedule is so easy because you play
the NFC South, and like, for instance, the Bill's upcoming
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games Saints Patriots at Falcons, that's a little trick. I
guess at Panthers it's like it's gonna be a while.
You then get the Chiefs in the back end the
Eagles are in Week seventeen. But for the most part,
it's games that they're gonna be heavily favored and that
they can win shootouts or games like this when they
need to. That's just how they're built, and that's just
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how the schedule comes up this year. By the way,
the Dolphins at zero to three, and we're going to
talk about Mike McDaniel and his future in a second
after the break. Do have a softer part of the
schedule coming up with the Jets and a game at
the Panthers. But those two teams are also looking at
the schedule and thinking, oh, great, we get to play
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the Dolphins. So it's like every fan base, like the
thinks that way. But it's like the Jets are also thinking, Okay,
that's a possible to win, and only one of them
is going to get it. So I always think to
fear the moral victory. All right, let's take that break.
On the other side, we are going to talk about
coaches potentially on the hot seat. It's a little early,
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but I think with the Dolphins tonight being in primetime,
I just thought like, let's think about like an early
watch list of these coaches, and I don't think tonight
necessarily got Mike McDaniel off that watchless and we will
also do a little bit of.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
News before getting out of here.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Back at NFL Daily, all right, little early. I feel
bad about this, but I just thought the McDaniel situation
is worth talking about big picture. When you hear a
report like that from Ian Rappaport before the game, this
is a game where I think people will feel better
about their effort. It will maybe calm the waters a
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little bit, but ultimately they're still zero and three. And
I just started thinking about like the different possible coaches
that we're just going to be keeping an eye on
this year, and I think the Dolphins unfortunately have that
feeling to it. Nick at at oh and three Yet
looks great that you have a couple games that are
favorable on the schedule coming up with the Jets and
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the Panthers for instance, then the Chargers and then at Browns.
But losing those types of games are also the kind
of moments that get you fired, Like if they go
oh and two, if they go oh and two against
the Jets and Panthers, like it's it's probably a rap
if you split those two games lose to the Chargers
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and lose to the Browns like that, that could be trouble.
So they could do a few different things here. They
could have Mike McDaniel use Anthony Weaver as a bit
of a scapegoat because the defense is struggling and that
happens first before McDaniel firing, or you make Anthony Weaver
the interim head coach. Either way, I just feel like
we've kind of been through this story before with Miami
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and they are going to need to win fast, and
they're going to need to do it with everyone watching
because they're in primetime again next week. The NFL schedule
makers probably not through with that one right now.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
No, No, I can't imagine they would be. I you're
absolutely right. Like the point you made about the schedule
and the mattress that you have, you have to realistically,
if you really want to get this, you want to
quiet this conversation. You're not going to silence it, but
do you want to quiet it? You beat the Jets
and the Panthers. Luckily you get the Jets at home,
you do get them on a primetime stage though pressure's there.
But I also kind of want to think that the
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last couple of weeks have slowly crept back out of
the dark place that they were in after Week one,
Like Week won, the body language was bad, the performance
was worse. Last week. You know, they were competitive, and
then you know they had the blunders in the fourth
quarter giving up the kickoff return touchdown, you know, kind
of falling apart offensively that hurt them. Tonight was their
best showing this season. Like this is an zero to
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two team playing a two and oh team that's expected
to contend for a Super Bowl, and they're right there
with them throughout the game. Kind of a weird game,
but they're right there with them throughout the game. If
you can take that momentum into the next couple of
weeks and win a couple of games, yeah, you can
stave off the vultures for a couple of weeks. And
the players, Tyreek Hill's body language was a lot better
than it was in the last couple weeks, and they
performed better as a team again though it comes down
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to details. It comes down to the roughing the punter
call that then buys the bills of fresh set downs
and they go down and score a touchdown. It's the
small things if those small things keep just stacking up
against the Jets and the Panthers and they cost you games,
then that change is gonna come quickly. He's definitely a
top that list right now because of all the expectation
that came with the Dolphins and how they've started this
so far the season.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, I should have mentioned that. That's a bad job
by me.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
The Zach Sealer roughing the punter penalty really turned the
game around, because I said, look, the Bills do what
they do. They go on a touchdown drive when you
absolutely need it. But they wouldn't have if not for
Seiler hitting the punter on a play where it looked
like they had left a lot of their starters in
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like they weren't supposed to necessarily becoming after the punter.
This was at least the interpretation of Maurice Jones drew
while as we're watching this in the film room, and
Seiler just thought he could go make a play almost
when rogue when they were trying to play it safe
and having left so many of their defender out there,
and maybe that's why Mike McDaniel got so upset. Let's
move on and keep going through through this list. So
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I agree. I think he's kind of a top the list.
I didn't know where to go second because I was
kind of ranking these so this is a no particular order.
But I do think Kevin Stefanski's situation for Cleveland this
year is interesting. They have made it sound like shuck
that they're going to have all the patients in the world.
It wasn't him who necessarily brought into Shaun Watson. They
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didn't get their high, you know, profile quarterback this year.
That's great, but I've watched enough you know, NFL seasons
to know that you can't survive two straight years where
you don't win, you know, four games, and so to me,
after winning three games like last year, they have to
have some level of competitiveness this year, and I think
it's going to be difficult.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
I think that he saves his job over the course
of the season if they play like they did in
Week one for the majority of their games. He loses
his job if they fall apart like they did against
Baltimore in Week two. I think it really is as
simple as that the fashion in which you lose is
going to matter significantly. I also think that there are
going to be quarterback changes ahead. You are going to
see Dylan Gabriel at some point. You may see Sir
Door Sanders at some point. There's just no reason, if
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you're not contending for a division title or even a
little bit of a hope of a glimmer of hope
of the playoffs, that you're going to try out these quarterbacks.
And the weird thing about it was, as they entered
this season, it almost felt like, if there's one team
that's going to give a coach who's been there a
long time a longer leash and more runway, it's the
Browns because they understand what he's stacked up against. They
understand that their poor decision with Deshaun Watson has handcuffed
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their ability to bring more talent in. And I think
that their draft has panned out well so far. And
Kevin Sevansi's one coach the year twice, he's gotten them
to the playoffs twice. This is a level of production
that the Browns have not seen consistently and a level
of stability they haven't seen since they came back in
nineteen ninety nine. So all of that's going to give
him a longer runway. But again, it's the fashion in
which you lose these games, because they're going to lose
most of their games. They're going to get beat by
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at Green Bay, They're going to get beat by Detroit,
They're going to get beat by Minnesota. If they're competitive
in any of those games, it quiets a little bit.
But it's a gauntlet that they're facing, and it's that
Week seven game against Miami. You could have two coaches
coaching for their job. I just think that such a
drastic move is going to take longer in his case
than it might with a Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Hey, hop up with the game.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I'm gonna go see him play the game of the
one that got away, Carson Wentz and the Vikings versus
the Browns in London. I mean, your Browns got to
you gotta try to win that game. You gotta win
some games. I know, like stylish losses are nice, but
you gotta win some games. And they do not have
an easy schedule like the Dolphins. Dolphins, on the other hand,
like this is, they're in a different situation. It's not
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just about style points. They are gonna need to stack six, seven,
eight wins at the very least. I think to keep
Mike Dan news job. Brian Callahan's just on my radar
a little bit. I just think he needs to show
some progress with his young quarterback cam Ward and his
offensive line. They said it's going to be a good
offensive line. If Kim Ward plays well, I think then
Callahan's gonna be okay.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
I think that the two things can be independent of
each other because it's hard because this is a franchise
that's undergone a lot of change in recent years. You know,
Ron Carthon getting the boot, Mike Rabel getting the boot,
Like it's just regime change after regime change, different leadership involved.
But throughout that whole stretch, they didn't really have the
what they believed was the answer at quarterback. And now
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they think they do, and I think they do too.
And I think that they could feel good enough about
washing their hands of the current regime if it's really
ugly and still be like, hey, we have a quarterback.
We just need to pair him with the right guy.
We need to do what the Bears did well, what
they attempted to do with Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams.
I think this is one of the more likely ones
based on just the way or again early but I
just don't expect the Titans to be super competitive this season.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, very early.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Brian Dable, I guess I was ranking these would be
pretty high. His tenure, I think is going to be
really dependent on Jackson Dart playing well, playing at all.
I don't think Russell Wilson's going to have the whole season.
I also think though, that Brian Daviles higher of Shane
Bowen and taking advantage of this defense talent, like the
team could be bad enough and it could be negative
enough there that even if Jackson Dart looks okay, who
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knows how long he'll be there. And then Dave Canals
was the other one I would just throw out there
based on the history of this Carolina Panthers organization. They
keep changing gms, they keep changing coaches, and they're off
to an ugly start. So I didn't want to go
too deep on this watch list. I don't know if
either one of those stands out to you as more
interesting than the other.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Between Canalis and Dable.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
I think that ownership matters a lot in their history,
and if there's an ownership group that makes a more
rash decision, it's the Carolina Panthers. So I would hate
to see that because I think Canalis and Bryce Hung
are better pairing than then the situation that Dable's in
right now and Dabele could have gotten fired last year.
But these are two examples where I'm like, let's let
it play out, Let's see what really happens.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Let's play it out. Let it play out.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
But it's just we try to get ahead of things
here on NFL Daily, and after a couple of weeks
and certainly this dolphin situation, I just thought it was
topical before we wrap here. A lot of people asked
Nick after listening to the preview show, appreciate everyone checking out.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Where was our unca the week.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I don't know if you were on top of that
new weekly segment, And that was my bad. And I
do want to belatedly award the Unk of the Week
to Tony Jefferson, the safety of the Los Angeles Chargers,
who made a ridiculous interception. And I didn't even know
before this segment started. Everyone on the team already calls
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him unk, and so that's his nickname on the team.
I saw it in social and people are sending it
to me. I was like, he obviously has to be
the unc of the week. I thirty six year old
safety who was in the scouting department for the Baltimore
Ravens and is out there, you know, making some pretty
big hits and a nice interception. Congratulations to Tony Jefferson.
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You were destined to be the Uncle of the week
at some point this year.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
You didn't fumble this entirely. I believe you talked about
this on the Sunday Show.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
I did, he did to bring out that he was
a strong candidate, but yeah, you got to finish it off.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
So I just didn't want to let that go.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
And then just a couple of little news items before
we say goodbye to the Pick Show, where you know,
we don't hit the news too much. Rock Purdy believes
it will go up until game time for him to
possibly play. He was limited in practice. Mac Jones was
very secretive, saying he wasn't sure if he was gonna
start or not. It almost feels like Kyle Shanahan has
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prepped these guys for exactly what to say, and I
gotta admit it's working, don't. I don't know who is
starting at quarterback for the forty nine ers, so I
just I just wanted the listeners to know that too.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Yeah, Greg, it's Week three and I'm already tired of
the way Kyle Shanahan handles injuries. It happened, it happened
in week one with Christian McCaffrey, it happened last week
with Brock Purty and with George Kittle, and it's happening
with Brock Purty again. Stop playing games with me, Kyle,
Like I'm just dreading Friday afternoon. Kyle's going to talk
at about four thirty five pm Eastern, and he's going
to be just as not the specific about it with
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his answers as he was this week. He's just let
everybody believe that there's still a chance. There's still a chance,
and we'll have to wait till game time for it
to happen.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, Kyle Shanahan is about as untruthful I would say
with the media in terms of injuries, as like he
goes out of his way, and I respect it in
some way that he is so dedicated to the craft.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
His dad was exactly like that too, which is just.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
They're poker players, thos.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
That they're both like that.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Some injury news out of Tampa since we taped our
preview to Cody Mock, their good guard who's really developed.
I mean, they're so good at developing these offensive linemen
out for the season. Surprised because he finished out that
game on Monday night and now he is gone, and
Luke Getticky is going to be out for multiple weeks.
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He's going to I believe injured reserve with a designation
to return. So they're going to be without their right tackle.
We don't know if Tristan Wurf's is going to be back.
And now losing Cody Mock and uh yeah, that might
that might inspire me back to the Jets on my
pick show on Friday. I don't know. I mean they're
a touchdown favorite. Missing three offensive linemen, that's a big
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deal for their season, even if it's not a huge
deal for this week when they faced the Jets.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
It is and they've been absolutely decimated by injuries in
the offensive line. You just ran through all of them.
But if there's one quarterback who's built over come that,
it's Baker Man.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Oh yeah, you know, I'm gonna I'm not going to
you know, who use a quarterback like that?
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Chuck Cleveland, Browns, Kevin ste.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Yeah, let's rub it in. Why don't you a guy who.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Can put up a forty burger in the playoffs? You
know what? I defend their decision to go away from
Baker where.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
He was was never going to work. It was never
going to work with them sometimes.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Wise, maturity, injuries, and all that had been built up
with him as a number one quarterback. If you really
want to criticize a team for letting quarterbacks out of
the building, I mean the Carolina Panthers had darnaldan Baker
in the building at the exact same time, and no
one really thought that they should keep them. But they
did not know how to develop either one of them.
All right, Shookie, that's it for the Shook week. It
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was a big one. You will be back with me
big time assignments on Sunday, me, you and Patrick Claiband.
But we will be back in the feed. As I
mentioned on Friday, Cynthia Freeland and I going through.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
All of our picks. We did it. We remembered the
unk of the week.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
We got a fairly entertaining AFC East game in primetime.
Hopefully we don't have the Dolphins in primetime too much longer.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
This season. Yes, we will see Friday with the picture
The shut up with three to eight verning where's the snap.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Back to pass fires a dinner septic picked up by
Terrell Bernard, tell me the other way and out of
bounds at.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
The forty yard line.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Terrell Bernard, mister fourth corner comes.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Up huge to all like a book.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Oh and it was a bad ending once again to
that book for the Miami Dolphins, thirty one to twenty one.
The Buffalo Bills win on Thursday Night Football over the Dolphins.
That was Chris Brown on WGR. We are getting used
to hearing Chris Brown at the end of these games
because the Bills just keep winning three to zero on
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the season. Another efficient offensive performance by the Miami Dolphins
offense Nick Shook just until the moment that they needed
a game winning drive and then a big time mistake
by Tua.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Yeah, and the third straight different, different style of game
for the Bills. They have a furious comeback in Week one,
they have a dominant performance against the Jets. In Week two,
they win a close one because their defense steps up
on a night in which their defense couldn't get off
the field against Tua's improvisation. Not the most high scoring,
entertaining game, but an entertaining game if you like close
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games with a bit of a chess match going on
in the second half between these two teams.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, it had an early season Thursday night feel to
it in some regards, and yet it was intriguing. I
can't say it was shocking, Nick, because it took me
all of about ninety seconds in the show to bring
up the fact that I hit this score exactly right,
thirty one to twenty one on game debut. I could
go three more years without hitting one game score right.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
So I'm gonna mention that.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
But the way they got there with great running really
by both teams, very efficient, no turnovers until that play
by Tua and two offenses shook.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I'll start here.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
That to me were the symbols of you know what
happened to my beautiful game? Like there were no deep
passes in this game. You know how many throws Josh
Allen made that even went over ten yards? Can you
guess Nick suck?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Let's say I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say three.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
One and he didn't complete it. It was a dime.
It could have been a touchdown. And the defender who
was that on that play, Isaiah Davis or something made
a deflection just at the last second to prevent a
touchdown on a nice throw by Josh Allen. He didn't
attempt anymore. And I can't kill him because he didn't
really need to. I think they watched that tape from
the Dolphins in the Patriots last week and saw the
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Dolphins just leaving wide open receivers underneath. And if you're
gonna give us eight nine yards a pop, will take it.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
And for most of the night it worked out.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
And then on the other side, you know, before we
got on you noted it's it's not too often you
see a guy throw the ball thirty four times for
one hundred and forty six yards. That's what Tua did,
you know, under four five five yards per attempt. And
I only think he attempted. Let's look, he had many
in the intermediate zone, one deep, but he only completed
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three of them, three of ten over ten yards. So
it was just like a dink and dunk and dink
and dunk and running type of game. And ultimately, were
you ever, like, actually thinking that the Bills were going
to lose this game?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
No, I thought that the Dolphins might tie the game,
and the Bills would find a way to win, and
they'd win by one possession, maybe by three points. Although
I don't know if you can entirely trust Matt Brater.
He had a bit of an up and down to night.
But what you know, I think about that one deep ball.
I know exactly which one it was. It was a
shot down the scene to Tyreek and it was a
bit of a desperate heave by Tua, and it really
I think captured a lot of how this game played
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out between these two teams, because the big story for
me is Buffalo's ability to get two off his spot
and force him to improvise both kind of hands stringing,
undercutting their offense early, and then he adj justed and
was able to make plays in the second half to
keep them in this game. But even with the score
being tied, to answer your initial question, I never quite
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felt like the Dolphins were going to win this game
because it took so much, such an effort just to
get to the end zone, because there weren't the explosive
plays that it just felt like eventually, because the Bills
are the better team, they were going to win out
and they did.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah, I get the instinct to give them a pat
on the back for giving us a good show. And
I do get that it's a little bit of a
moral victory. You're listening to you know, Kirk herb Street
and Al Michael's talk about them like, you know, they
deserve metals of valor for trying to harden a difficult situation.
And it is difficult. You know, the vultures are circling.
There are reports before the game, one from r Ian
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Rappaport who was on Amazon Prime saying that the owner
of the Dolphins quote doesn't want to fire Mike McDaniel,
but that had some caveats. If fans stop showing up,
news flash, they will stop, you know, showing up if
they keep losing. And then if the players look like
they're quitting on Mike McDaniel, which we haven't seen. The
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last two weeks have just been normal games that show
the cracks in the Dolphins, but they're plenty competitive. After
the first ugly performance against the Colts, unfortunately, the record
is what it is.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
It's still zero to three.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
You still lost what I think seven straight now to
the Bills, and it's a matchup problem and you're in
now year four of Mike McDaniel you wanted to start
moving forward. Before we get into all that, I do
want to give the Bills some love because ultimately their offense,
Nick is playing with a pretty small margin for error.
They needed to hit almost all these touchdown drives tonight
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to make sure that they won, and they went out
and did it, and I think it shows a more
mature Josh Allen. One thing that stuck out to me
was just how quick his decisions were. So he's getting
rid of the ball really quickly. He knew exactly what
he wanted to do when he scrambled, which was very
rare tonight. Only a few times he was quick and decided,
you know, when to do. So I think he's just
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making smart football decisions and playing with a maturity at
this stage of his career of doing exactly what he
needs to do.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
And this is what this game kind of required out
of him. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I actually really like this matchup because it was a
good comparison between two quarterbacks who are just different at
different levels. You know, Tua has to try to figure
out how to improvise and it's not pretty at times.
Sometimes he has to cut the field in half in
his reads just because he can't get to the other
side of his progression in time, or he's just not
going there. He's missing open guys because primarily he doesn't
have time to throw. And he's not a guy that
ever really looks comfortable improvising. Josh Allen improvising is like
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just part of his game. Like there are some plays
where the first reasons out there and he immediately takes
off and makes you pay. The Dolphins are committing, you know,
Tyrell Dobson to spy him and it's not really working.
There's one time where Alan scrambles for a big game,
just shy the line to gain and Dotson flies in
and tries to you know, finish off the tackle because
of course you're not going to give up and pull
up on Josh Allen scramble. He could take that to
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the house. That causes some Bills players to get a
little you know, irritated with how that play finished. But
it's a great example of just the fact that this
is a guy who's a weapon with his feeding and
obviously with his arm, and it shows why he's an
elite quarterback, why he's the raining and NFL MVP.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Yeah, I follow some Bills fans on Blue Sky and
I'm listening to them, will you let Josh Allen actually
be Josh Allen in this game. I'm thinking Josh Allen's
doing what he wants to do because the idea was like, like,
let the shackles off. He's not going deep at all
and they will need that. And there were a couple
drives in the second half where they did eventually punt
where you know, it didn't work out ultimately, though, he
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threw the ball twenty eight times for two hundred and
thirteen yards and three touchdowns. And you know, any complaints
about not improvising or not giving us enough entertainment, I'll
send you to the first quarter of this game.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Wait when he got one of the most fun touchdowns
of the year to Spencer Hawes, a Yale graduate, scoring
a touchdown on Thursday Night Football.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Allen drew center on first and goal from the five.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Motion from Hawes, fakes the snap, Allan gonna roll left
looking for someone in the end Z and now shovel
passes it complete to Jackson Hawes for his first career
touchdown from five yards out.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
It reminds you of Brett Farv a little. He flicks
the ball while he's looking one way, sends it another.
It almost felt like early in this game it was
too easy for him and he was just trying stuff
out because he tried another flick across the body a
drive later further down the field to a receiver that
wasn't even that open, and it felt a little unnecessary,
and it was just like, yeah, I'm Josh Allen, like
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I can try things like this.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
It was a flick that probably could have been like
a floated pass, like a traditional throw, like just a toss.
Didn't need to necessarily flick that ball. But it just
shows that exactly what you said, which is that he's
playing freely. He knows he's at the peak of his
powers and that this offense runs through him, and that
no defense really has a real answer for him, and
he can do whatever he wants, including taking your risks sometimes.
And you know, it's one of those things where like
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when it works the first time, sudden you feel emboldened
and I'm just gonna try it again because it worked
on that touchdown pass. It's funny because on drive, you know,
the Dolphins come out strong and they score a touchdown,
they get a big kick return to set themselves. They
go down score touchdown. I'm like, oh, okay, they're gonna
be a little punchy here. This is gonna be maybe
a close game. And the Bills go right down the field. Yes,
and and Alan caps it with that flip and I'm like, ah, yes,
But then you must remember you are playing the Buffalo
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Bills Miami Dolphins, and this is going to be a
bit of a long night when you have to stop
this quarterback. It's it's really fun to watch, like he's
he's a top my QB Index for a reason for
plays like that. He's at the people.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Ooh spicy. How high is Dak Prescott right now? I
should be he's in the top ten?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Oh, top ten?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I mean, I know the QB Index has taken into
previous years, but he might be.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
He might be top three, top one.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
For me, he's not top all. Look it up right now.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Five. I don't know who's I got him at eight.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Okay, but you're you're taking into more than just these
two games so far.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I was just saying two games.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
By the way, I apologize to Jackson Hawes Uh scoring
his first touchdown in his NFL career. Before tonight, he'd
barely run any routes at all, and now he gets
a couple catches in this game. I called him Spencer Hawes,
who was a top ten pick by the Sacramento Kings
in the NBA about ten years ago.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Who do you remember Spencer Hawes as because I remember
him as a seventy sixer.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
I barely remember him. I don't know how that name
was in my head. But yes, a nice moment for Hawes,
who's mostly out there blocking. And while we're talking blocking,
this Buffalo run game is where everything starts, and the
threat of Josh Allen is important. But tonight it's not
like it was a lot of RPO nonsense or anything
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like that. It's just their straight ahead running game. James
Cook goes nineteen for one oh eight again, and his
success rate for the season is just through the roof.
He is taking advantage of great blocking and then he
is making extra plays once he gets to the second
level a lot of yards after contact. They actually had
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a rushing success rate tonight four fifty per set, and
that was much lower, I'm much higher until late in
the game, and I think that includes the last cup,
in the last drive where they were just you know,
trying to get the clock to run out.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
So I've been really impressed by them.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
And one thing that stands out, you can you can
tell me what you think when you look at the
blocking scheme and the play calling and everything. I think
the wide receivers block really well, like the tight ends
block well. And then you see all the wide receivers
including Keon Coleman out there really effective on the perimeter
in terms of their blocking too.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah, I would like Bills fans to understand one thing.
You're not going to get the explosive plays you yearn
for on a consistent basis because you don't have field
stretching weapons. And that's fine because you've traded stretching the
field for really good blocking all across the other ten
guys in the field, and it's producing a very balanced offense.
It's producing first hass for James Cooking, which he goes
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seven for like seventy four, which is an insane rate.
And it just makes you a more threatening team and
a tougher team to defend, because not only do you
have to worry about the NFL MVP at quarterback, but
you have a running back who is dynamic, a running
back who has great vision, great burst, and also makes
guys miss. He's hard to bring down. He'll rip off
a big one. Your explosive plays are probably gonna come
on the ground about as often as they come through
the air because you have James Cook and thank god
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Brandon Bean finally figured out how to get James Cooked
to the table and get that contract done, because wow,
it'd be a lot different story if he wasn't on
the field.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Oh, he was never going anywhere.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
But they they treated him well like they should, even
though he had still a year on his contract. I'm
surprised Ray Davis isn't getting more run because he's a
good backup, but you didn't even need him tonight. Ty
Johnson's in there as a good third down back so
they can use those guys more. And he had a
key third down pickup where the Dolphins were just expecting
them to pass even in a short yarded situation because
he's out there like they have a lot of weapons.
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Like Kincaid had a nice night, five for sixty six,
had a touchdown, could have scored another if he if
he stayed a little more upright, but Minko Fitzpatrick got
him down at the goal line and Kean Coleman went
three for twenty and yet I've been impressed each and
every game. I've seen something really good that he's done,
a good contested catch on a third down. I like
Kean Coleman. You mentioned the touchdown drive. So the Dolphins
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tie it twenty one all in the fourth quarter. We
got a real game here, and then the Bills just
do what they do. They went right down the field,
finishing with a touchdown to Khalil Shakir.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Shakira in motion left to right and now in an
orbit motion back to the left side, back to pass.
It's a screen pass to Shakir as a blocker in
front facing.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
To the end zone, and he's in.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It's a fifteen yard screen pass for a touchdown as
Shakir got great blocking down field, got up the sideline
and into the end zone.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
And the Bills have the lead back again.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah, I think that was Dawson Knox with some good
blocking there down the field.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
So this is a good time.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Well, let's pivot over to the Dolphins side, where the
defense just hasn't provided a lot of resistance. There wasn't
a lot of hope, at least in my mind, on
that drive that they were going to make a stop.
Nick there. They're paying a lot of guys up front tonight.
I don't think they really had a chance to make
much of an impact because Josh Allen was getting rid
of the ball so quickly.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Like what are you seeing out of this Dolphins defense?
Speaker 4 (14:11):
You know, they get pressure or they at least cause
a bit of havoc up front. The rest of the
picture is inconsistent. And we know the injuries that they've
dealt with in the secondary, and they lost defensive back.
They lost Jack Jones for like a play like it
was almost in succession.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Jason Marshall, their slot corner, also was knocked out of
this game. Yeah, and then Jack Jones came back in.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Yeah, So you're thin, like your thin back there. And
we talked before the season about their investment was very
much in their front seven, and you know, he had
a penalty that was just completely unnecessary tonight. But I
have like the way that Jordan Brooks has played for
the first three weeks of the season. I thought that he's,
you know, a nice linebacker in that group, and so
they're going to keep you competitive. It's just a matter
of you know, getting teams off the field. They did
a great job in the second half. I thought that
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early on it felt like Anthony Weaver was a step
behind Joe Brady, and then we got to the second
half and it felt like Weaver was a step ahead
and Brady was playing a little bit conservative in his
play calls. They were taking a lot of short passes
that the Dolphins were all over. It was a good
chess match, a good back and forth. So like, I
can't put high expectations on the Dolphins offense right now
because they've been very hit or missed, but they were
more efficient tonight. They did get into a rhythm in
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the second half. So it's hard to say which side
is better, right, Doe.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
The offensive side is better the defense.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Because here's the thing. The defense does stink, except they
forced three punts in the second half and kept them
in the game. It's just that they didn't capitalize.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
So I'm looking at it here and I'm with you.
That was my feel from the game.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Oh, the Dolphins defense, they actually competed, They figured out something.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
They were trying a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
I sometimes I'm looking at all the crazy, you know
things that Weaver is throwing at them, and throwing at
the bills in the first half, and none of it's
really working. I'm thinking, does he have the personnel and
the continuity to really do all this crazy stuff in
the end? You know, in the first half, they gave
up two touchdowns in a missfield goal. They did force
two punts in the middle of that third quarter, but
sandwich between that was another couple of touchdowns and field goals.
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So I think we are three games now into the
season and they've had a total of four stops. So
they had none against the Colts, they forced two punts
against the Patriots, gave up scores or field goal attempts
on every other one, and the same thing tonight. It
was just a low possession game where they're you know,
giving up these longer drives, and especially their offense is
going on these longer drives. It's rough and on the
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other side, like this used to be one of the
most exciting offenses in the league, and they were reasonably
efficient tonight. You know, they didn't turn it over until
that interception, and so before that you had three touchdowns
on seven drives, like on a per drive basis, that
would lead the league over the course of the season.
Scoring three points to drive like that, that's great, but man,
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they are working hard to do it. And you mentioned
the third downs that Tua was pulling off actually in
that touchdown drive at the end of the second quarter,
Like asking him to play that game is to me
like a sign it's not really the Dolphins offense that
you want to see.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yes, but actually do this. It was kind of a
gross game by halftime, because like they got down there
and scored, and the whole way down was just like
you're living on the razor's edge, Like hold onto the
side of your seats here, because this is going to
be a wild ride. It was like the pressure was
affecting to Like I said earlier, he was basically forced
to like only take half the field. He was missing
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open guys, and yet he was finding ways to complete
passes or at least extend drives. Tyreek Hill makes a
phenomenal catch in front of two defenders and just not
a phenomenal catch, but a phenomenal catch and run because
he's just that fast. He's able to outrun two guys
to get to the line to gain to extend that drive,
and by the time they get in the end zone,
I was like, well, that's good for them, but god,
it was chaotic getting down there. It was not clean offense.
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It just happened to work. The second half was much
better for them offensively. Yeah, you're right, like, this is
the strength of their offense. It's just about consistency and
it's about details. Like the details kind of lost them
this game, more on the defensive side and special teams
than offense. Of course, that interception was kind of an
example of Tua immediately putting his head in one spot
and being like I'm looking here, and the defense reading
it and him not seeing a blind spot. And I
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have some issues with the way that he the speed
at which he gets through his progressions, but he was
sped up all night, and so it's kind of difficult
to hold that against him when you know that he
was sped up all night. The two things that I
took away for it more than anything, with that he
does not trust his offensive line, and he breaks he
doesn't slide away from pressure very well because he's just
constantly like, I know, I don't have time to throw.
But the beauty of that is that they were that
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touchdown drive that they pulled off in the second half.
That throw to Tyreek Hill was exquisite. That was two
guys who have played with each other for a long time.
I know he's going to be there. I'm going to
throw it up off a backfoot with the guy in
my face and cap off the most impressive drive of
the night for them.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, like that's the thing. He really did pull off
three great third and longs and there was another one
where he ran for in that drive and him having
to do that is not a great sign. At that point,
he was twelve or eighteen for sixty six yards, which
is crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
And they were tied in this game.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Because you know, we've been so hard on the Dolphins here,
let's listen to the happy moment from twa tongue Bailoa
because they did keep it close, and when they finished
off that second quarter drive, I thought, Okay, we're actually
in this game.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Four cracks of the adsor fact to throw slat pattern
Wnald touchdown highs.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Throw, great call and a terrific patter by water.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
What a great drive.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Wow, one of my favorite touchdown celebrations.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Jalen Watdall finishes with five for thirty nine and a touchdown,
rewarding his fantasy owners that had some faith tonight, like
tyreek Hill, I thought other than that one drop which
was big on the deep ball and that was a
it was a balloon. But ultimately I think tyreek Kill
would admit that he should have that ball. He jumps
and gets his hands on it. He finishes with five
catches forty nine yards, a touchdown, and an eventual backflip
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on that throw that you were talking about in the
fourth quarter, which was just a terrific route by tyreek Kill. Ultimately, though,
like it's a good running game, a Chan and Ali
Gordon ran the ball very well. Their success rate has
been actually pretty consistently high all season and was excellent tonight.
I have questions about the Bills defense overall, like long term,
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Oh you to two, what are your questions?
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, I'm just I'm glad that we've gotten there. Because
you made the point about the Dolphins maybe not having
the personnel on that side of the ball. I don't
know if the Bills do either, and I don't know
if Sean McDermott has admitted that yet. Because that sequence
that led to that touchdown just before the end of
the first half was a display of how McDermott. I
think trust his guys more than he should in the
way that he approaches defense. They ran a lot of man,
they gave a lot of man looks, and that's fine,
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But that instance when Tua throws a touchdown pass, I
have no idea why they called the defense that they
called like they're double mugging the a gap. They got
Tredavious White out wide against Jalen Waddle playing soft off coverage.
You're going to bring pressure, why not try to press
the line, because if you're gonna speed up the quarterback,
make the route harder to run. He plays often it's
the easiest slant I've seen a long time, and it
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was one of many where I think in the second
half when the Dolphins were, you know, marching down the
field slowly, I mean crawling down the field kind of.
There were a couple of instances in which they convert
third downs, a lot of passes to Waddle near or
outside the numbers, where they're showing pressure and changing coverage,
rolling the shell at the last second and asking Cole
Bishop to run from the hash to the numbers like
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an undercut a route. And I'm just like, do you
understand that you don't really have the guys to do
all this exotic stuff, that you don't need to necessarily
do all this exotic stuff. I think that's a big
reason why that they were They struggled to get stops
in this game tonight, and it's correctable, but it concerns
me just about their long term approach. They need to
look in the mirror a little bit and be like,
maybe we shouldn't get that adventurous with our play calling Defensively.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, I don't think it's going to show up for them.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
They're going to have such an interesting regular season, and
I think their fans might get annoyed because I think
this defense is going to struggle. Our friend Jordan Rodrigg
is right with you, and she has big concerns about
this defense. And yet it might not really show up
because they're going to keep winning. Like the AFC East
out of division schedule is so easy because you play
the NFC South, and like, for instance, the Bill's upcoming
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games Saints Patriots at Falcons, that's a little trick. I
guess at Panthers it's like it's gonna be a while.
You then get the Chiefs in the back end the
Eagles are in Week seventeen. But for the most part,
it's games that they're gonna be heavily favored and that
they can win shootouts or games like this when they
need to. That's just how they're built, and that's just
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how the schedule comes up this year. By the way,
the Dolphins at zero to three, and we're going to
talk about Mike McDaniel and his future in a second
after the break. Do have a softer part of the
schedule coming up with the Jets and a game at
the Panthers. But those two teams are also looking at
the schedule and thinking, oh, great, we get to play
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the Dolphins. So it's like every fan base, like the
thinks that way. But it's like the Jets are also thinking, Okay,
that's a possible to win, and only one of them
is going to get it. So I always think to
fear the moral victory. All right, let's take that break.
On the other side, we are going to talk about
coaches potentially on the hot seat. It's a little early,
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but I think with the Dolphins tonight being in primetime,
I just thought like, let's think about like an early
watch list of these coaches, and I don't think tonight
necessarily got Mike McDaniel off that watchless and we will
also do a little bit of.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
News before getting out of here.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Back at NFL Daily, all right, little early. I feel
bad about this, but I just thought the McDaniel situation
is worth talking about big picture. When you hear a
report like that from Ian Rappaport before the game, this
is a game where I think people will feel better
about their effort. It will maybe calm the waters a
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little bit, but ultimately they're still zero and three. And
I just started thinking about like the different possible coaches
that we're just going to be keeping an eye on
this year, and I think the Dolphins unfortunately have that
feeling to it. Nick at at oh and three Yet
looks great that you have a couple games that are
favorable on the schedule coming up with the Jets and
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the Panthers for instance, then the Chargers and then at Browns.
But losing those types of games are also the kind
of moments that get you fired, Like if they go
oh and two, if they go oh and two against
the Jets and Panthers, like it's it's probably a rap
if you split those two games lose to the Chargers
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and lose to the Browns like that, that could be trouble.
So they could do a few different things here. They
could have Mike McDaniel use Anthony Weaver as a bit
of a scapegoat because the defense is struggling and that
happens first before McDaniel firing, or you make Anthony Weaver
the interim head coach. Either way, I just feel like
we've kind of been through this story before with Miami
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and they are going to need to win fast, and
they're going to need to do it with everyone watching
because they're in primetime again next week. The NFL schedule
makers probably not through with that one right now.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
No, No, I can't imagine they would be. I you're
absolutely right. Like the point you made about the schedule
and the mattress that you have, you have to realistically,
if you really want to get this, you want to
quiet this conversation. You're not going to silence it, but
do you want to quiet it? You beat the Jets
and the Panthers. Luckily you get the Jets at home,
you do get them on a primetime stage though pressure's there.
But I also kind of want to think that the
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last couple of weeks have slowly crept back out of
the dark place that they were in after Week one,
Like Week won, the body language was bad, the performance
was worse. Last week. You know, they were competitive, and
then you know they had the blunders in the fourth
quarter giving up the kickoff return touchdown, you know, kind
of falling apart offensively that hurt them. Tonight was their
best showing this season. Like this is an zero to
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two team playing a two and oh team that's expected
to contend for a Super Bowl, and they're right there
with them throughout the game. Kind of a weird game,
but they're right there with them throughout the game. If
you can take that momentum into the next couple of
weeks and win a couple of games, yeah, you can
stave off the vultures for a couple of weeks. And
the players, Tyreek Hill's body language was a lot better
than it was in the last couple weeks, and they
performed better as a team again though it comes down
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to details. It comes down to the roughing the punter
call that then buys the bills of fresh set downs
and they go down and score a touchdown. It's the
small things if those small things keep just stacking up
against the Jets and the Panthers and they cost you games,
then that change is gonna come quickly. He's definitely a
top that list right now because of all the expectation
that came with the Dolphins and how they've started this
so far the season.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, I should have mentioned that. That's a bad job
by me.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
The Zach Sealer roughing the punter penalty really turned the
game around, because I said, look, the Bills do what
they do. They go on a touchdown drive when you
absolutely need it. But they wouldn't have if not for
Seiler hitting the punter on a play where it looked
like they had left a lot of their starters in
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like they weren't supposed to necessarily becoming after the punter.
This was at least the interpretation of Maurice Jones drew
while as we're watching this in the film room, and
Seiler just thought he could go make a play almost
when rogue when they were trying to play it safe
and having left so many of their defender out there,
and maybe that's why Mike McDaniel got so upset. Let's
move on and keep going through through this list. So
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I agree. I think he's kind of a top the list.
I didn't know where to go second because I was
kind of ranking these so this is a no particular order.
But I do think Kevin Stefanski's situation for Cleveland this
year is interesting. They have made it sound like shuck
that they're going to have all the patients in the world.
It wasn't him who necessarily brought into Shaun Watson. They
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didn't get their high, you know, profile quarterback this year.
That's great, but I've watched enough you know, NFL seasons
to know that you can't survive two straight years where
you don't win, you know, four games, and so to me,
after winning three games like last year, they have to
have some level of competitiveness this year, and I think
it's going to be difficult.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
I think that he saves his job over the course
of the season if they play like they did in
Week one for the majority of their games. He loses
his job if they fall apart like they did against
Baltimore in Week two. I think it really is as
simple as that the fashion in which you lose is
going to matter significantly. I also think that there are
going to be quarterback changes ahead. You are going to
see Dylan Gabriel at some point. You may see Sir
Door Sanders at some point. There's just no reason, if
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you're not contending for a division title or even a
little bit of a hope of a glimmer of hope
of the playoffs, that you're going to try out these quarterbacks.
And the weird thing about it was, as they entered
this season, it almost felt like, if there's one team
that's going to give a coach who's been there a
long time a longer leash and more runway, it's the
Browns because they understand what he's stacked up against. They
understand that their poor decision with Deshaun Watson has handcuffed
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their ability to bring more talent in. And I think
that their draft has panned out well so far. And
Kevin Sevansi's one coach the year twice, he's gotten them
to the playoffs twice. This is a level of production
that the Browns have not seen consistently and a level
of stability they haven't seen since they came back in
nineteen ninety nine. So all of that's going to give
him a longer runway. But again, it's the fashion in
which you lose these games, because they're going to lose
most of their games. They're going to get beat by
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at Green Bay, They're going to get beat by Detroit,
They're going to get beat by Minnesota. If they're competitive
in any of those games, it quiets a little bit.
But it's a gauntlet that they're facing, and it's that
Week seven game against Miami. You could have two coaches
coaching for their job. I just think that such a
drastic move is going to take longer in his case
than it might with a Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Hey, hop up with the game.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I'm gonna go see him play the game of the
one that got away, Carson Wentz and the Vikings versus
the Browns in London. I mean, your Browns got to
you gotta try to win that game. You gotta win
some games. I know, like stylish losses are nice, but
you gotta win some games. And they do not have
an easy schedule like the Dolphins. Dolphins, on the other hand,
like this is, they're in a different situation. It's not
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just about style points. They are gonna need to stack six, seven,
eight wins at the very least. I think to keep
Mike Dan news job. Brian Callahan's just on my radar
a little bit. I just think he needs to show
some progress with his young quarterback cam Ward and his
offensive line. They said it's going to be a good
offensive line. If Kim Ward plays well, I think then
Callahan's gonna be okay.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
I think that the two things can be independent of
each other because it's hard because this is a franchise
that's undergone a lot of change in recent years. You know,
Ron Carthon getting the boot, Mike Rabel getting the boot,
Like it's just regime change after regime change, different leadership involved.
But throughout that whole stretch, they didn't really have the
what they believed was the answer at quarterback. And now
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they think they do, and I think they do too.
And I think that they could feel good enough about
washing their hands of the current regime if it's really
ugly and still be like, hey, we have a quarterback.
We just need to pair him with the right guy.
We need to do what the Bears did well, what
they attempted to do with Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams.
I think this is one of the more likely ones
based on just the way or again early but I
just don't expect the Titans to be super competitive this season.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, very early.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Brian Dable, I guess I was ranking these would be
pretty high. His tenure, I think is going to be
really dependent on Jackson Dart playing well, playing at all.
I don't think Russell Wilson's going to have the whole season.
I also think though, that Brian Daviles higher of Shane
Bowen and taking advantage of this defense talent, like the
team could be bad enough and it could be negative
enough there that even if Jackson Dart looks okay, who
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knows how long he'll be there. And then Dave Canals
was the other one I would just throw out there
based on the history of this Carolina Panthers organization. They
keep changing gms, they keep changing coaches, and they're off
to an ugly start. So I didn't want to go
too deep on this watch list. I don't know if
either one of those stands out to you as more
interesting than the other.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Between Canalis and Dable.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
I think that ownership matters a lot in their history,
and if there's an ownership group that makes a more
rash decision, it's the Carolina Panthers. So I would hate
to see that because I think Canalis and Bryce Hung
are better pairing than then the situation that Dable's in
right now and Dabele could have gotten fired last year.
But these are two examples where I'm like, let's let
it play out, Let's see what really happens.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Let's play it out. Let it play out.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
But it's just we try to get ahead of things
here on NFL Daily, and after a couple of weeks
and certainly this dolphin situation, I just thought it was
topical before we wrap here. A lot of people asked
Nick after listening to the preview show, appreciate everyone checking out.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Where was our unca the week.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I don't know if you were on top of that
new weekly segment, And that was my bad. And I
do want to belatedly award the Unk of the Week
to Tony Jefferson, the safety of the Los Angeles Chargers,
who made a ridiculous interception. And I didn't even know
before this segment started. Everyone on the team already calls
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him unk, and so that's his nickname on the team.
I saw it in social and people are sending it
to me. I was like, he obviously has to be
the unc of the week. I thirty six year old
safety who was in the scouting department for the Baltimore
Ravens and is out there, you know, making some pretty
big hits and a nice interception. Congratulations to Tony Jefferson.
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You were destined to be the Uncle of the week
at some point this year.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
You didn't fumble this entirely. I believe you talked about
this on the Sunday Show.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
I did, he did to bring out that he was
a strong candidate, but yeah, you got to finish it off.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
So I just didn't want to let that go.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
And then just a couple of little news items before
we say goodbye to the Pick Show, where you know,
we don't hit the news too much. Rock Purdy believes
it will go up until game time for him to
possibly play. He was limited in practice. Mac Jones was
very secretive, saying he wasn't sure if he was gonna
start or not. It almost feels like Kyle Shanahan has
(33:29):
prepped these guys for exactly what to say, and I
gotta admit it's working, don't. I don't know who is
starting at quarterback for the forty nine ers, so I
just I just wanted the listeners to know that too.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Yeah, Greg, it's Week three and I'm already tired of
the way Kyle Shanahan handles injuries. It happened, it happened
in week one with Christian McCaffrey, it happened last week
with Brock Purty and with George Kittle, and it's happening
with Brock Purty again. Stop playing games with me, Kyle,
Like I'm just dreading Friday afternoon. Kyle's going to talk
at about four thirty five pm Eastern, and he's going
to be just as not the specific about it with
(34:01):
his answers as he was this week. He's just let
everybody believe that there's still a chance. There's still a chance,
and we'll have to wait till game time for it
to happen.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, Kyle Shanahan is about as untruthful I would say
with the media in terms of injuries, as like he
goes out of his way, and I respect it in
some way that he is so dedicated to the craft.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
His dad was exactly like that too, which is just.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
They're poker players, thos.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
That they're both like that.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Some injury news out of Tampa since we taped our
preview to Cody Mock, their good guard who's really developed.
I mean, they're so good at developing these offensive linemen
out for the season. Surprised because he finished out that
game on Monday night and now he is gone, and
Luke Getticky is going to be out for multiple weeks.
(34:46):
He's going to I believe injured reserve with a designation
to return. So they're going to be without their right tackle.
We don't know if Tristan Wurf's is going to be back.
And now losing Cody Mock and uh yeah, that might
that might inspire me back to the Jets on my
pick show on Friday. I don't know. I mean they're
a touchdown favorite. Missing three offensive linemen, that's a big
(35:07):
deal for their season, even if it's not a huge
deal for this week when they faced the Jets.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
It is and they've been absolutely decimated by injuries in
the offensive line. You just ran through all of them.
But if there's one quarterback who's built over come that,
it's Baker Man.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Oh yeah, you know, I'm gonna I'm not going to
you know, who use a quarterback like that?
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Chuck Cleveland, Browns, Kevin ste.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Yeah, let's rub it in. Why don't you a guy who.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Can put up a forty burger in the playoffs? You
know what? I defend their decision to go away from
Baker where.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
He was was never going to work. It was never
going to work with them sometimes.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Wise, maturity, injuries, and all that had been built up
with him as a number one quarterback. If you really
want to criticize a team for letting quarterbacks out of
the building, I mean the Carolina Panthers had darnaldan Baker
in the building at the exact same time, and no
one really thought that they should keep them. But they
did not know how to develop either one of them.
All right, Shookie, that's it for the Shook week. It
(36:02):
was a big one. You will be back with me
big time assignments on Sunday, me, you and Patrick Claiband.
But we will be back in the feed. As I
mentioned on Friday, Cynthia Freeland and I going through.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
All of our picks. We did it. We remembered the
unk of the week.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
We got a fairly entertaining AFC East game in primetime.
Hopefully we don't have the Dolphins in primetime too much longer.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
This season. Yes, we will see Friday with the picture
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