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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to NFL Daily, where we have been traded for
a conditional late round pick. I am Greg Rosenthal here
in the Chris Westling podcast studio, joined by Jordan Rodriek,
and it's a little different today. Jordan, we're going to
go over some of the news. It's Thursday, August twenty first.
Trades are happening all over the league. They're going to

(00:26):
keep happening, and so we wanted to make this show
as current as humanly possible. Hit a bunch of those
trades and transactions and news at the top, and then
we're going to throw it to a segment that we
taped earlier in the week where we drafted our fantasy
teams for the year, and you insisted on not being
part of anything fantasy football related because you hate fantasy football.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
So it's strong. It's strong. Not my area of expertise.
I would say, not a fantasy football player myself.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Fine, you would have made sense in this one.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah, I would have just been someone sitting off to
the side just listening to dude's talk.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
It's like most of my life anyways.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
It was a lot of dudes, Marcus Grant, Mike Florio,
Lawan Jones for the first time, all from the NFL
Fantasy group, and then of course our friend Patrick Clayband.
So we went five deep. We drafted about thirty plus players.
We talked about all the strategy that is coming up
in a little bit and it's a nice meaty segment.
So I'm feeling the heat. Yay, I want to put
a clock on us? Can we do all this news

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in ten minutes?

Speaker 3 (01:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
You talked for a long time about should it be
ten minutes? Should it be twelve minutes? You talk more
about that than I think this actual segment.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Okay, well from ten minutes from now, Eric, can we
do that? Can we put it on the clock and
let's roll through because more stuff will happen as we're taping.
It's just like a lot of little things, but it's
answering questions that we've had throughout the off season. I'm
going to start not with the trades, because I think
the bigger names are actually the activations, and I find
these interesting. Who has been activated off the pup list.

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This is that week where it's like, all right, it's
go time. If you're going to try to play anywhere
near the beginning of the season, you need to start
practicing football, and so I'll list off a few names
who have been activated. Chris Godwin surprisingly activated. The plan
is to carry him on the roster at the start
of the year. We also heard with the Bucks that
Tristan Wurf's is going to be on the roster at

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the start of the year. Their left tackle interest. Doesn't
mean they're ready for Week one, but they're going to
be on the roster. Jalen McMillan, I don't know if
we quite hit this on our last one though. It
is going to miss about half the season, so that
plays into the wide receiver equation. Lagarious Steed of the Titans,
their cornerback, was activated this week. Darren Waller, the tight
end with now with the Dolphins, and then Andrew Thomas,

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the left tackle of the Giants, who I've been tracking.
You can take whatever you find the most interesting of
all of these situations, but all guys who are at
least taking a positive step towards getting back on the field.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yes, not actually surprising to me the Chris Godwin and
the Tristan Wurf's situation because their timelines were slated optimistically
for October right, So if you're going to mess with
some of the IR designations, putting guys on, taking them off,
depending on how the ramp up period for both goes.
October is coming up very quick, first of all, and
you wouldn't quite hit that six week window anyway for

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injured reserve in order to then start bringing people back.
So I think that this makes a lot of sense
that they're going to carry them both and they won't
have to burn designations. Essentially they could potentially use them
for other players down the line to then bring them back.
So I think that this is interesting enough to where
they're not starting the season with them on another designation,
you know, they're starting the season with them actually in

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the building working back into what they've described. Todd Bowles
has described as this like extended ramp up period. And
then Darren Waller, we knew was going to have a
little bit of a lengthier time back to actually participating
in practices, getting his body back under him, back together
after spending so much time away from football. We did
know that Andrew Thomas was a little bit is the

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one I've kind of got my eye on because he's
got to get back out there and get into taking
these snaps and these reps is so important to that
Giant's offensive line.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Well, we'll see if any of these guys are actually
ready week one. Lagarious Need, who we haven't heard from much,
who's coming off of a knee injury which is different
than the one that kept him sidelined all last year
and is really important to that Titans team. Will he
ever be a plus cornerback again? He says he thinks
he'll be ready for Week one. None of them are
certain to Andrew Thomas, I think it's taken a little

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longer than the Giants may be hoped. But yes, if
you're on the reserve pup list, you have to miss
at least the first four games of the season, so
the window is open for.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
These guys to play earlier.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, the Titan the Bucks rather have been hit more
by injuries probably than any other team. You got the
best left tackle in the league, Godwin. I think it's
gone a little slower than they maybe were hoping, and
then you lose a really good number three slash four
receiver in McMillan. Let's get to the trades. Devon vle
and this was the most interesting one. The rest are

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are mostly guys who probably weren't going to make the team.
And maybe Devon Bailey was not going to make the Broncos.
He got traded to the Saints for a fourth and
a seventh round pick. So that's like the Jonathan Mingo
price for the Cowboys a year ago, a trade that
was roundly mocked by people like ourselves.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
And I would say this trade, at least.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
The New Orleans is getting roundly mocked, like people making
fun of Mickey Loomis for giving up too much for
Devon Veley from the Broncos.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Any takeaways here my takeaway as I enjoyed your post
about the situation that Sean Payton is still running the Saints.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
I know he just calls he calls up his guy,
Mickey Loomis, who I'm not sure if he was in
the wedding. I literally spent like thirty minutes trying to
confirm this just to put it.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
In the tree, and it's greg.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
See, you couldn't confirm that he was in the wedding,
but he was at the wedding. You know, they've called
each other best friends before, and it's like Sean Payton
just calls up his buddy and convinces him that he's
got good offers for Devon Vailey are our friend Adam
West reported that, you know, for the Saints Block Party
podcast that, like other teams, the forty nine ers, he said, specifically,

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we're just offering like pick swaps, like late round pickswaps,
and they gave up a fourth and a seventh. Now
that said, uh, I kind of like Devon Vailey, like
he could be their third or fourth best receiver their
skill position group for the Saints, it's not bad if
they actually had a good quarterback and an offensive line
that works, and both of those. You know, the quarterback
is obviously an uphill battle, and the offensive line to

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me is very TVD. I mean, I don't mind that
group a lave Shaheed Vley. I kind of like what
I see out of Mason Tipton. Jwan Johnson's Okay, you
have Alvin Kamara, you have Kendre Miller. Like, that's not bad.
The problem is process always with the Saints. You gave
up way more than you needed to, and you gave
Brandon Cooks seven point seven million dollars guaranteed this offseason.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
That's the worst contract. What does that mean? I'm just
talking too much in general. Okay, that's fine a minute, mark, Okay,
I feel good about that. I feel good about it.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
I mean, are you aware I was not that Brandon
Cook's got seven point seven million dollars guaranteed in the
year twenty twenty five. That's the worst contract I think
anyone gave out all off season.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Just it's just, you know, I don't think it moves
the needle to the level that it's moving the needle
for you, honestly.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Just bad team building. I mean, that's a lot of money.
I don't know if he's even going to make the team.
He had less than three hundred yards last year. Like,
who's giving out? Why are they doing that?

Speaker 5 (07:24):
Anyway?

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Well, they're also sending a fourth round pick and a
seventh round unnecessarily.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
For a twenty seven year old.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
I don't know why these things continue to surprise you
as basically my reaction.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, teams are just going to call up like trying
to take advantage he was a seventh round pick a
year ago. You know, we're going to do a segment
with your friend Cody Alexander. It's gonna air on Saturday
that I'm really excited about things that changed our mind
a little bit since the beginning training came. This Vley
trade actually has some real world application in that I

(07:55):
believe that the Broncos wide receiver group is a little
further along than I did a month ago in terms
of they really like their rookie Pat Bryant. Obviously, they
have Marvin Mims there who they kind of know it
with Courtland's Sutton, and then they really like the elevation
at Troy Franklin and that's why you can make a
trade like this. So I actually think there's a real
world takeaway that the Broncos wide receiver group is much
better than it was a year ago.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, this was sort of just like shedding someone that
they didn't necessarily need, that didn't necessarily fit Pat Bryant.
I mean, they're really really excited about Pat Bryant.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Third round pick.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Sounds like he's going to be playing some of that
like power slot.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Kind of role. So it makes sense.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
So there you go. We've talked enough about this.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
I thought, okay, the other trades, I'll just mention Harrison Phillips,
who was a captain previously for the Vikings, was traded
for a sixth essentially and then a six and seventh swap.
He's a defensive tackle, a veteran, gives some depth to
the Jet. Sky More was traded for a twenty twenty
seven six to seventh swap. Sometimes, too, when these trades

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are reported, there are conditions that they're almost embarrassed to say,
like he has to make the team. He was not
going to make the Chiefs, he might not make the Niners.
They're just extremely injured there, and so that those were
your trades. We don't need to hit those too much.
I did notice Cam Hayward ended his holding. I don't
know if he got anything out of it, Like we'll
see if he gets anything contractually in the future. But

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Cam Hayward of the Steelers back on the field. And
then we got the news Thursday the Eagles wide receiver
Johnny Wilson, who was going to be their wide receiver
for had an injury on Tuesday and will miss the season.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
I do want to point out one thing on the
sky More thing. No, I don't think that this is
going to solve their problems. And they're obviously waiting for
DeMarcus Robinson to get back after his three game suspension.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
That was announced. So that's a nice little news and
I get to knock out.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Kyle Shanahan said it on CANBR that DeMarcus Robinson was
going to miss the three games, but then also that
they're allowed to appeal, so we'll kind of see if
they end up doing that. That obviously that happened when
DeMarcus Robinson was a member of the Los Angeles Rams
here in LA last year and and they people in
that market, Matt Barrows and Tim Khala Kamie as a
snow fortiniteers plus minus. Today, all of this is spiraling

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around the Juwan Jennings situation. He's still quote unquote with
the calf injury. However, Tim Kyle kami had like a
suspicion and he didn't want to be aggregated, but I'm
kind of blowing up his spot anyway. He had this
suspicion that, like Kyle Shanahan, will reach a certain point
where he would just rather trade him than work out
a contract situation. Because of how frustrated the team seems

(10:29):
to be getting about this, especially considering the receiver situation
that they're in right now and Matt Barrows throughout was
it Kendrick Bourne, yes, saying that Kyle's always had like
his eye on Kendrick Bourne.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Kendrick Bourne forty nine er.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
I'm going to say for a twenty twenty seven sixth
it's happening.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
He's not.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
The problem is he's hurt right now, and so it's
difficult to trade guys that are hurt. But yeah, they
have I think Jacob Cowing, their young receiver, had a
reoccurrence of his hamstring injury. They just keep getting hurt
like no one is healthy. Russell Gage, who was maybe
gonna play snaps for them, is now out for a
couple of weeks. It's just it's a little bit of
a mess, all right, Let's fly through the rest. Well,
Mark Jackson got stepped on at practice. Everyone got panicked.

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Then we heard it's fine. It's not a big deal.
He did miss practice Thursday, so it's a little bit
of a deal. Let's at least track it. I'm sure
he'd like to practice. The biggest news I have left
is that Caleb McGarry is going to miss time into
the regular season, the tackle for the Falcons, who just
got paid, and that was just after news that his

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backup Storm Norton also was hurt. He was hurt over
the weekend. That's six a six to eight week injury.
Suddenly the Falcons are completely out of starting right tackles
to start the season.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
That's not good.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
We've reached ten minutes and I'm still gonna go over
and just tell you Matthew Judains back in the league.
He's with the Dolphins, and yeah, we're going to see
a little deal and Gabriel, we're going to see a
little chadur this weekend. In that order, Joe Flacco will
start a little preseason action. So that's the Brown situation.
The Saints are not declaring a starter going into preseason

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week three, which is pretty rare that happens, but it
does happen sometime. I believe the Seahawks in the Russell
Wilson year did not. They waited till after the third
week of the preseas.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
We did it. We we just went over a tiny bit.
We're good, just a little kay.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
I think Eric is gonna need our producer is going
to need something a little bit stronger next time to
play you off the stage.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
As I think Honking is more.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Let's be clear, this was never gonna.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Happen more insulting it happened. All right, let's get to
the fantasy Welcome to NFL Daily, where we are no
longer in too many fantasy leagues, at least I'm not.
I'm here in the Chris Westleying podcast studio surrounded by
more gentlemen than I ever have been in this studio,

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and they are in too many fantasy leagues.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Let's go right to left. They're all on.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
NFL Fantasy Live or the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. LaQuan
Jones the newest member of the podcast. Of course, you
know and love Patrick Claybom maybe not the second one,
and we've got Michael le f Florio and Marcus Grant.
We're gonna it's Fantasy Day here at NFL. So we
appreciate you guys. Sweet part of this, my world's colliding

(13:22):
like it's it's this is this is why we do this. Yeah,
and Patrick, you said you're only in like four leagues,
but you guys are in double digits. And I had
to get out of that life and I'm just I'm
just focusing it down to about one league right now.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
So you this one that we're going to draft, to know,
this one we're gonna draft, and.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
For the listeners out there.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
We're just gonna go through these obviously not a team
that we're gonna track all season long, but I just
wanted a way to talk about as many, you know,
high leverage fantasy players as possible. So we're going to
do a mock draft. We'll see how many picks, uh
that we get.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
Through kept track of. Like their four man league last.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Year, I do not I do not know what happened
to that league, but I guess we'll just we'll just
get going with the number one overall pick. And I
like staying in an order and la kwan Uh. It's
the first time you've been in the studio. Yeah, awesome,
So you get the honors this time of the number
one overall pick.

Speaker 6 (14:19):
All right, some folks might think I'm going wide receiver Chase,
but I'm going to Bajon. It's Bjon by the way,
Robinson at the one oh one spot. I mean, honestly,
when Zach Robinson says he's flirting with the idea of
getting Michael Pennix a little bit more vertical downfield, and
that's kind of like what we want. And Bijeon he's
one of those guys going to be running those routes.
He's going to be getting those dump offs, and we

(14:41):
already know he's in that freakedier when we look at
Saquon Barkley.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
You said at first you got to stick with it.
You got to stick with it a type of mustard
real ones know.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
I've been trying to do this on game debut over
the last few years with John because he said it
before previous, and I think this is the time to
do it because I'm totally with you. If I had
had the number one overall pick, I would have taken
that too. Are you guys different in your leagues? This
is a PPR league for everyone else.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
There, I mean a standard.

Speaker 7 (15:11):
I'm taking Jamar Chase, but I don't have I have
no quarrel at all with Jon Robinson.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
That's how I feel as well.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, don't.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
I don't get it because to me, the wide receiver
like Jamar Chase is amazing, But I don't see a
huge difference between like wide receiver one and wide receiver
seven or eight. Whereas you know, I think you could
make the case and Gibbs and maybe saque are just
like a special group of human athletes.

Speaker 8 (15:35):
Well, I think you include Jamar Chase in that share
in that particular tier where, yeah, all those guys are
threats to score anytime they touch the ball, but Jamar
specifically do the location of where he touches the ball.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
Yeah, Bengals games are gonna refers to forty wins too.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Okay, that's totally fair.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
I do like that it's year two of the Falcons,
and I like the continuity that Jamir Gibbs has in Detroit,
so I will take him with the second pick in
this draft.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Is that weird?

Speaker 5 (16:05):
That's kind of weird.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
I haven't seen that.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
Wow, h Chase not going in the first two picks
is like, I've never seen that.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
All, well, that's this is why I like to do this.
And I'm the Stinky Davis who like doesn't know.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Exactly stinky, I don't know. That's an all phrase of
our friend did hands is in the studio.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
I'm probably going to start using that now.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
I think it's useful to be another example the poker
player who doesn't exactly play by all the rules at
the table and you mess with everyone else. And to me,
it's not that logical that like Chase is just one
because he was like because he wasn't that last year.
He was just in the mix of all these great
wide receivers and and to me, I guess I just
would feel a little better of getting some great ride

(16:50):
wide receivers on the way back. Whereas Gibbs, I mean,
he's just like everything you can possibly want in an
NFL running back and on the absolute perfect team.

Speaker 8 (17:00):
Yeah, on a season where running backs went nuclear. Actually
the top score at the running back position because Saquan
set out that last game was tremier Gibbs and you could.
I know it's it's different and we haven't seen it,
but these two going one too makes perfect sense because
they're both like in that contract here if that's your thing.
They're both explosive guys who've managed to be you know, healthy,
So like, yeah, that it makes sense.

Speaker 5 (17:21):
I enjoy it from a like how can you not
be romantic about football? Like these two guys are going
to be hot together their entire career and now and
for them to be like the first two running backs
off the board is really cool to me.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Also, I've been owning this horrible tweet that I made
after they drafted Jamir Gibbs where I said that Gibbs
and Montgomery weren't really that big of an upgrade over
Jamal Adams, Williams and Deandres. Ever, since, like every good
prime technique, it's partly because I bring it up all
the time.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
I retweeted that right now.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Every single Lions game, I get some of those retweets,
So I'm trying to like fix it. By the way,
since I rarely get to do this with bijon last week,
I talked to Cowboys linebacker Tomarvion overshown and asked him
who's the best football player he ever won against, and
he said, hands down, It'sjon Like and explained all the

(18:13):
reasons why so ball, Yeah you got you got the
third pick peop.

Speaker 8 (18:17):
Well to hook him there. I'm reading the disambugation on
Stinky Davis. There's a lot of folks real Yeah, it's
a clown from season two of episode of Garfield and Friends,
a character that I haven't and Costello show. I'm thinking
Jamar Chase because you know we've we've already talked about it. Yeah,
the the this idea that Al Golden it was all

(18:38):
lose fault and Al Golden is going to come in
and fix the Cincinnati Bengals defense. I don't I don't
necessarily believe that. Yeah, I don't think they might be
as bad. They're still going to need to score a
whole bunch. Saw him in the preseason for some reason.
Times out, Jamar Chase is still good. I don't know
that we need to try to break tackles and die
for the pylon in the preseason.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
But yeah, I've seen enough. He's he's my pick here. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
And when I was trying to like push back it
all against Chase, it's he's still the wide receiver one.
He's still like as safe as it could possibly be. Yeah,
I just feel like there's less there, all right, go Mike.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
Uh this, I don't love this spot because, like I
think you guys took all the obvious top guys, but
I'm gonna go you have to pick here between your
top wide receivers. I think I'm gonna go with ce
d Lamb. I think a lot of people would go
justin Jefferson, but I like Dak Prescott a little bit
more than Jeffer, than JJ McCarthy, but even more. I
think we're gonna get Ceedee Lamb in the slot. A
whole bunch and That's what led to his breakout year

(19:30):
two years ago. Last year moved back more to the X.
I just think with Pickens there, Lamb is gonna just
go off.

Speaker 6 (19:37):
I mean, look, man, I am all bored for CD Lamb,
But at that spot, I don't really take Neighbors like
I do.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
Wow, I think there's really.

Speaker 6 (19:45):
The video game numbers that we're seeing just with the
Russell Wilson moon ball, Like we're seeing him hit this
two random guys that are probably you know, second and
third string. Now insert Malik Neighbors in that department. This
is where you're gonna get that tier level of guys
of like Jamar Chase justin Jefferson there.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
I do think Neighbors is in that year challenge.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
I'm a huge Boots.

Speaker 7 (20:06):
I guess I'm just not sold that the Russell Wilson
moon ball still exists on the same level it did
years ago.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
There, and I'm not convinced that he's going to be
the starter past that part September twenty fifth or something,
just throwing out a ramps.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
At some point Jackson Dart's taken over there.

Speaker 6 (20:20):
But that was one of the games that, like, I mean,
one of the things that the Giant struggled with last
season was that deep ball and Florida. You hit it
on the last episode twenty percent completion rate on the
walls that are downfield. Last like that was completely strapped
to bad quarterback play. Now you get the upgrades. You
got Winston, he got Dart back there. Even Russell's not
cooking in December because the recipe is a little bit changed.

(20:41):
You know, he gets cold around that time because he's iding.
I think that you know, even if a Winston comes in,
we see the spike. We see double Jerry Jews production
last season. So it's like he is in a safe
spot right now where I think he's going to be
cracking that top three of the Fantasy wide receivers that
we known in love.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
I think Lamb is a little say for health wise,
just because Neighbors freaks me out a little bit that
he's always missing practice and he's a younger player like
Lamb has proven it a year after year. I do
think there might be a little more Jake Ferguson and
George Pickens to divvy it up, but there's obviously like
a bigger pie.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
I love Neighbors. The only difference from me is you
don't have to worry about a quarterback change. Yes, that
that leads me to Lamb and Jefferson Cutlets in.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Jersey, unless God forbid anything happens to that three of them,
because catastrophic Joe Miltain's thrown that ball over the mountain
and I don't all right, Marcus, you're up with the
fifth pick and we're not doing a snake draft, so
we're gonna go to Lawan after this with Okay.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
All right, that's cool.

Speaker 7 (21:39):
By the way, Stinky Davis also played three Major League
seasons between between the Detroit Tigers and the Saint Louis
Brown's career two sixty four hitter with seven total wait.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
For real, for real, what years? And Costello that is that? Well,
that's where it must have started. And then Garfield's like
copying it and it's just become.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
A season two episode of gar Field in Front.

Speaker 7 (22:01):
He played for the Tigers in nineteen thirty two and
thirty three, then he took a break and he played
for the Saint Louis Browns in thirty seven.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
Wow do you think that break was?

Speaker 3 (22:09):
I have no idea, probably like I don't know care.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
Yeah, that's what I was bro. It was literally you
know war exactly alright.

Speaker 7 (22:17):
So here in the fifth spot here, the beauty of
being in this spot is that you guys have taken.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
Like a lot of good guys.

Speaker 7 (22:22):
So I can be like, well, I took this guy
because you know, that's that's who was sort of left
to me. So like, you know, the the onus is
put on you all at this point, I'm gonna take
Justin Jefferson here because I remember this time last year
we sort of downgraded Justin Jefferson.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
We're like, Sam Donald's the starting quarterback. I don't know
what's gonna happen.

Speaker 7 (22:40):
Are we worried about it and everybody sort of knocked
him down draft boards, and then you know, it turns
out that Justin Jefferson is still good regardless of their quarterback.
I mean, it definitely helped that Donald had a career season,
but Justin Jefferson was still really good. And so I
think at this point, even with JJ McCarthy, I think
we still believe in Kevin O'Connell's offense. We believe in
Justin Jefferson's talent, so I have zero problems taking him here.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
I totally agree, and uh, I feel like, what's why
him and Takuan, for instance, last year fell a little too.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Far to me?

Speaker 1 (23:09):
He is, That's why I don't think there's some crazy
difference between like him and Chase and Lamb and apparently
Malik Neighbors who I guess it's coming next.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
He's coming next.

Speaker 6 (23:17):
But let me pivot a little bit because I don't
know if you know, but Stafford's back, Like, uh will
be my pick at the one oh cinter Oh okay,
because with Stafford back in pads.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
You just talked. You just spent like five minutes saying,
but I'm just.

Speaker 6 (23:30):
Saying, I'm going to take neighbors here, but I want
to put Pooka's name into consideration, Like I might actually
stare at neighbors a little bit, but Pukah's going to
be in the peripherals there. I feel good taking him
as well here because I do think with Stafford back,
so who are you taking? I'm taking pa Puka is
the pick man. Superman is back. The shirt is on

(23:52):
for a reason because Stafford's back in office, and I
do feel like Pooka he's going to have those video
number games, and I think, when do you add into
DeVante Adams. There's going to be a lot more scoring
opportunities where I think the pukin Nakua touchdowns may go
up as well.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Hmmm, all right, I'm I'm up next, and I have
to consider, you know, this isn't a real team.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
So if it's.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Just for value of where we're at, like Saquon as
your RB two would be is amazing, or you know
at this spot, uh there's another you know receiver or
three I love. But I I think if it was
my team, I would go with Saquon. I I have
the same concerns that anyone would of all that workload

(24:34):
last year, and I don't think they're gonna really let
off from him. But I'm just hoping that he is
like Derrick Henry, like built different and that he's just
gonna he's gonna be able to hold up and not
expecting everything that happened a year ago to happen. That
he's so safe because of the touchdowns that I don't
think you should go any further in the first round.

Speaker 8 (24:55):
Yeah, and even if you if you're projecting regression like
what you could project Ja Hurts touchdown scoring regression, right
then that's in Saquon's number up. You know, Saquon carrying
my team last year. I hate that I don't get
a chance to have him in this hypothetical.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
I mean, if this these word teams, I would be
the only man in America with Bijon and I mean
Gibbs and Saquon as my top two.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
You know what.

Speaker 7 (25:20):
I'm sure at some point we'll get a tweet or
something somebody like, hey, so I got Jamior Gibbs and
Saquon Barkley and some keeper league Josh Jacobs, Like what
do I do?

Speaker 5 (25:30):
Like, Okay, all right, trade.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
We are with the eighth pick Patrick.

Speaker 8 (25:35):
And it could be it could be famous last words.
And I know people would say it's a reach because
Ashton Genty is in that top ten for a lot
of people. And I love the idea of linebackers in conflict.
Brock Bowers is GENTI the priority, like how that works out.
But I gotta take Derrick Henry once again. I know
that there's a push from Keaton, Mitchell and Glad to

(25:55):
see him back in healthy. Yeah, there could be some
six yard Lamar touchdown scrambles, but let's be honest. On
second and goal from the two it's probably going to
twenty two and forever, however long it lasts. Yeah, I'll
be the last one on.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Well.

Speaker 7 (26:11):
The other part of this, though, is the Ravens have
never really forced the issue with Lamar Jackson at the
goal line. I mean, he gets his rushing touchdowns, but
usually he's running them in from you know, ten twelve
yards out when they get close. It's never been hey,
we're gonna, you know, use you for a sneak. We're
gonna do a tush push. And that was even before
Derrick Henry. Now you've got this behemoth in the backfield,

(26:32):
why wouldn't you turn around and just hand it off
to him from the two and let him do his work.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
My biggest basic concern for him is it just was
nice taking him the last few years when his stock
was dow, you know what I mean, Like you said,
you'll be the last one from that would work. And
my friend Evin Silva, the you know, he would always
call him the big dog.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Every year. He would always be like, the big dog
is underrated.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
And you know that's proven to be right way more
often than it's been wrong. But I do I just
never love drafting anyone who was getting taken a few
rounds later.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
He's still in the second round now, in the middle
or the second round, not if you're Patrick Clayboy.

Speaker 8 (27:09):
Yeah, a very good piece of an offense that was
almost too efficient last year. There were a lot of fourteen,
seventeen and twenty six yard touchdowns where there could have
been touchdowns left on the board for Derrick Henry.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
I'm fine. I have been as entire career.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
By the way, it is an awesome backfield, though he
has probably as good as good backups as he's ever
had with Justice Hill and Keaton Mitchell.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
Right, you're up, Florio, I'm gonna take the guy that
we've spent most of my time talking about. Last pick. Yeah,
leak neighbors, Like, I agree with everything l Q said
the deep ball being there. I think talent wise that
he is on the same par as like a Chase
Jefferson Lamb and I think by the end of the
year will put him in that group, but he has
to get there first. But yeah, I mean, he was

(27:52):
putting up historic numbers with the quarterbacks that he had
last season, so I think there's three quarterbacks on the
roster now better than anything throwing him the ball last year,
So I'm all about maliems in round one.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
That's a fair point that like, even if they are switching,
I'm chicking Jackson dart Over. Yeah at last year, and
if Jamis gets in there, it should be a lot
of fun.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
That the back problem in camp has been like a
little spooked.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
But I do like the camp reports before he got
hurt where they said the target distribution in practice was
like he had twenty seven targets. The next closest receiver
had like six.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
I mean the neighbors is one of those guys that
just doesn't practice, you know, Like I wouldn't surprise me
if during the year, like Wednesdays he is his scheduled
off day, Like he's just one of those.

Speaker 6 (28:33):
That's why Rondo Robinson went in the third round. He's
getting pumped up in my Chaos Home, your homeliest super
in the third round Travis Hunter one on one, So
yeah that I don't trust anything that's happening. Marcus, You're
up all right?

Speaker 7 (28:50):
So I got there are a couple of different names I
am looking at here, but you know what I'm gonna
I'm gonna make through im, say Christan McCaffrey at this point,
I feel like the attitude around him has changed because
early in draft season, for those of us Sikos who've
been doing this for a few months, he was originally
going on in the third round, and everybody's like freaked out,
And I think everybody started to remember that when he's healthy,

(29:13):
he's still on the field for like ninety percent of
the snaps. He is still the engine that kind of
makes this in this offense go. The two and a
half games we saw him last year, he looked like
Christian McCaffrey again. He got the ball at sudden, he
was productive, and he gets hurt and we don't see
him for the rest of the year. And so understanding that, yes,
there is injury risk baked in, I think that's why
he's going late first round now early second in some drafts.

(29:36):
I'm remembering that, you know, the workhorse back is sort
of an endangered species, but he is one of the
ones that still exists in this league.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Is there any doubt about if he was healthy, because
to me, he's one oh one again or one oh
two if he I think he just told me he
plays seventeen games this year. Oh he To me, he's
one on one or one of two. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, folks.

Speaker 6 (29:56):
I don't want to fill that burn though, like a
lot of fantasy rosters crumbled because he went off the board.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Well, look one take advantage like Marcus is doing.

Speaker 7 (30:03):
I had one or two rousslers last year where I
was just sitting around waiting and yeah, I was trying
to piece it together and it wasn't fun. But like
when he was there, it was everything I wanted it.
Like this guy's average. He has two different injuries per
season at this point.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
The most interesting fantasy career ever, I think, because like
there's like three or four years where if you didn't
have it was like good luck winning your league, and
then like three years where if you had him it
was like, yeah, it's over for you.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
It feels like maybe the one last great year for Yeah, he.

Speaker 8 (30:28):
Still plays for the coach that literally forced him the
ball seven times in a Gold Coast.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
Situation, absolutely meaningless, strait nothing.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
All right, lakwan, you are up with what is now
the eleventh pick.

Speaker 6 (30:44):
Now, this might surprise these two over here, but I'm
going to go Brian Thomas Junior. Now, I talked to
me O'Brian lately on my last pod that I had
over there on FT and Fantasy where we were talking
about the function the identity of this Jaguars offense and
it's Brian Thomas Junior. They were going to feed him
the ball. The volume is going to be their for him,
and I understand that like folks are like, well me

(31:05):
as the Trevor mid Lawrence hater here, but I do
think that it's gonna come down to, like Trevor mid
Lawrence needs to step up and get rid of the
mid in the middle name and be able to get
the ball to Brian Thomas Junior. So I'm hoping that
this target share is in that twenty five percent range. Okay,
but Trevor Mid Lawrence, get on track, buddy, we need
these fantas.

Speaker 5 (31:23):
Can you get it?

Speaker 7 (31:23):
Can you get a twenty five percent target share? With
Travis Hunter walking the Earth?

Speaker 6 (31:26):
Travis Hunter me O'Brien. What she was speaking about was
like he needs to be looked at as a sittional,
situational player, like he's going to be in certain packages.
He's not in the twelve personnel packages right now, so
he's going to be placed in certain areas on the
field where this play he's going to be relevant or
there's gonna be one week where like, hey, you gotta
we need him on the corners because we're banged up
in the secondaries.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Okay, like you, I don't know if you've done a
lot of shows with Patrick before Laquad because colle making
up a nickname colling Trevor Lawrence mid is funny.

Speaker 5 (31:59):
But that's like the comes have been mid.

Speaker 8 (32:00):
But I mean Lacaun was talking up like Milik Neighbors
with hypothetical multiple quarterbacks, So like, I think like he's not.
There's still confidence in BTJ with trev because you know
Leakwon doesn't think too.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
Highly of lar.

Speaker 8 (32:14):
I think the circumstances in Jacksonville have been more of
an issue.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
Urban Meyer was run around, you know, kicking player, kicking
people in a good time. Red Shirt year.

Speaker 8 (32:23):
As far asways the second edition, Doug Peterson exclusively feeling
like running mesh twenty seven times the game like that.
I think Trevor Lawrence will be fine, but you know,
the future will dictate how.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
People I'm I'm a little worried.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
And Brian Thomas Junior was my guy in the draft
and fantasy last year or two, and it all worked
out amazing.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
I am a little worried about, like.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
The the heights that that he's being drafted among the
best receivers in football when there are a couple issues. Okay,
Travis under might be situational for now. If by week
five he might, it's not crazy to imagine him being
the best receiver on the team.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
I do like.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
I love what I've seen out of Trevor Lawrence so
far in the preseason. By the way, I just think
his mind is moving a little faster, so I'm buying
in on Liam Cohen and I don't like that. Like
every single day I hear how Brian Thomas is dropping
passes at practice. I'm not like panicked about it, but
I'm just hearing about it. And then I see it
in the preseason that happened again. I'm just like a
me makeup is what you will. His most productive games

(33:27):
last year were with Mac Jones. Ay, I mean, that's
weird you can do that.

Speaker 7 (33:32):
I truly don't know what it means, but it is
a fact that his most productive games.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
Were with Mac Jones.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Okay, So that gets to my pick and why I
would take I was thinking about taking Nico Collins last
time around and now I'm taking him here and I'm
just taking the guys that I love. Sometimes he gets
so wrapped up in the fantasy of it all, just
like who's the best player. I just feel more confident
that a Nico Collins at this point is a better
football player than a Brian Thomas junior and maybe even

(33:58):
a Malik Neighbors. I know that's not how fantasy works,
but I've just I've just seen it. To me, he
is a top five dude, like as just at the position,
and he's got c J.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Stroud.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
I think the offense in general is it's going to
be a lot more competent. And if we're talking about
like target shares and everything, it's a pretty steep drop
from Nico Collins to either Christian Kirk or.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Number two Higgins Man the clone Man.

Speaker 5 (34:22):
But there's no question who one is in Houston, right.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Higgins is his backup though, like to me, Higgins is
not draftable on fantasy leagues because he literally is playing
Nico Collins' position, like Xavier Hutchinson is going to get
more snaps I think than Jayden Higgins at least to start.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
The Ioways State guys there or just pure literally Okay,
if Christian Kirk gets hurt, Jalen nowoll Europe.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, but that's an easier path, right or just that
like eventually he passes Kirk, whereas like no one's displaced.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
No, no, no, I guess.

Speaker 6 (34:49):
I'm covered a deep sleever and Jayleen No. I mean,
if he has that easy pass to be in that
slot position, I think maybe he's worth a watchless.

Speaker 8 (34:56):
And yeah, there's more, there's more clarity on down the roster,
and I think that's I that the Mechi trade was
easy for Cassario own company to do because the talent
at wide receiver that they brought in kind of makes
them makes them super deep. And I got sniped by
Greg because I thought I thought it was a great
sniper opportunity to take a really good wide receiver, one

(35:18):
of the best. Uh So I'm going to go back
to the guy I almost picked last time, and I'm
just going to add depth to my flex is solved.
I'll take Ashton Gent because I did see uh Pete
kind of loading it up with carries over the course
of preseason week two, the explosive run where he crushed
or agrees with you, Yeah, he's probably gonna have to
watch that one for a while, you know, him welcoming

(35:40):
in a player to the NFL on the on the
other side of things.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
But they're they're going to be explosive.

Speaker 8 (35:46):
I saw Geno throw that first ball to brock Bowers
on the very first plane. This is it on the
Raiders offense.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
It's going to be fun and Jens is going to
be a big part of that.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense, and
I think that's right where he's slotted running back wise
in this draft. We can talk about things a little
more big picture. How do you and we're going to
get to these guys, but how do you view that
sort of like tier break after Let's say Henry and
McCaffrey are are like one level.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Is genty in that level with them?

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Or do you have him further down maybe with the
next group of guys.

Speaker 5 (36:22):
So for me, I have Bijons Sake one, and Gibbs
as their own tier, and then I have gent in
there with Henry with CMC. I have Devon Chen in
that group guys that I think could be the RB
one overall, but their pats are a little less clear
than like a Gibbs or Bijon, who obviously are going
top two.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Do you want to take right now? Just no, just conversation.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
I legitimately thought that's what you were going to do
in this Yeah, well, I mean I could, he would
be the running back I would take, Okay, but there's
a receiver that using your Nico Collins Lodge. Yes, Like,
I don't think he should be on the board at
all here, And I think for fantasy and real life
he's better than some of the people that win.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
AJ Brown.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
Yeah, Like, I think AJ Brown is super underrated. And
last year the Eagles had the run heaviest offense not
just in the league like in years, and AJ Brown's
full season pace was still fourteen hundred yards. Like it's
just so funneled through him. And I think Philly has
to throw the ball more.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
They love that pick.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
I think he's so underrated for fantasy depends where you're looking,
Like some places have him as like a top eight
to ten wide receiver or even higher, like we're taking him,
and I think that makes sense. But we had on
in the house, my son Walker.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
He's ten.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
He's entering like year three or four of fantasy. I
think four and he's very into it now, so you know,
not to pump up a competitor. But the ESPN Fantasy guys,
they do a good job with that live draft that
they do on and we're screaming at the television. I
think they got into maybe the fourth round, definitely deep third,
and AJ Brown is still sitting there. To me, I'm

(37:57):
taking him in my draft, very likely in the in
the second round, like if I have a pick somewhere
between like fourteen and twenty or sixteen and twenty two,
like I'm taking I think.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
He should be a first Yeah, I'll take him in
Brown two.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
I think you should be where he was last year,
which was like a first, second turn type of guy.

Speaker 7 (38:13):
Well, and the thing you talk, you guys talk about
with Saquan I think one of the I guess mild
concerns about him is that last year no team threw
the ball fewer times than the Eagles, and I am
hard pressed to think that happens again. It looks I
don't you're not gonna suddenly turn around start throwing it
forty times a game. But I do think you're gonna
see Jalen Hurts throw it a little bit more and
I think AJ Brown becomes a beneficiary.

Speaker 6 (38:33):
I do think like at a higher rate, like you
will want them to throw the ball more. But AJ
Brown has proven to be one of the most efficient
wide receivers out because when Jalen Hurts takes that deep ball,
it's accurate, it's there and it's going to AJ Brown.
So I do like you know that when AJ Brown slips,
like I may think though, there's another wide receiver I
may think of instead of AJ Brown, and that's Drake London.

(38:53):
Like those two are like smack dab next.

Speaker 5 (38:56):
Man you Want's.

Speaker 6 (38:59):
Just based on we saw Michael Pinnox in those three
games with Drake London. It was incredible yardage and like
even with Kirk Cousins in there, like he kind of
was capping Drake London's full potential, Like you sold the
yards per perception literally jumped from eleven yards to sixteen.
That's thirteen heights. Like that's where you're gonna see Drake
London get a lot more yards.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
I loved what Marcus said too about the Eagles offense.
I think if you read between the lines of this offseason,
I think the idea is to throw them ball more
that we this is what we need to work on
is but we've been working on all off season. I
think they I think DeVante and AJ tamp down some
of their personal you know, not selfishness, but like their

(39:42):
desire for numbers and pass and the organization is very
aware of that, and I think they know they need
to be a little more bound.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
So I'm totally with you. I think they're gonna throw
the ball more.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
All right, let's do one more pick with Marcus and
then we'll take a quick break.

Speaker 7 (39:54):
All Right, we're talking about wide receivers, and I keep
I keep looking at the sheet making sure that I'm
not just something. How's I'm on Ross Saint Brown still here? Yeah,
that's that's where I'm going. I'm taking I'm on Ross
Saint Brown at this point. You know, I guess there's
concern because Ben Johnson's not there anymore. But I'm on
Ross still good, and he's still gonna get a ton

(40:16):
of targets, and I'm I'm I'm taking a cautioning people.
By the way, in case people don't know, the offensive
coordinator is John Morton, not to be confused with former
USC and Detroit Lions wide receiver Johnny Morton.

Speaker 5 (40:27):
They are two very different people.

Speaker 7 (40:28):
Just in case you thought that the former receiver got
into coaching, that is not the case. But you know,
everybody's like, what's gonna be what's gonna happen with John
Morton running the show and not Ben Johnson, Like he
knows who his good players are, Like he's gonna figure
out how to get the ball to I'm on raw
and to Jamior get Like we're not scared of taking
Jamior Gibbs in the.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Top three picks, right, Monra guy? You know?

Speaker 7 (40:48):
So like why why why are we gonna stop worshiping?
Stop worshiping? Yeah, the sun god in fantasy, Like why
why are we doing this? So I really was surprised
that he hung on this.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
So Dan Campbell is an offensive mind head coach. He's
been there since day one with them and Jared Goff
as as well, and like he's not That's where he wins.

Speaker 8 (41:07):
It's the aesthetics that he doesn't get the credit as
an offensive minded head coach because he's too big and
strong and talks about my kneecap.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
But you have to have like a lab code on
with beakers.

Speaker 6 (41:17):
Well.

Speaker 5 (41:19):
Of a decoordinator classes and Jordan's to practice. You know,
that's time to do it.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
It is one of my favorite like dumb under the
radar storylines this year is how annoyed Dan Campbell is
in general of the narrative that they're going to be
worse with Ben Jonson. Like, I think everyone with the
Lions is just sick of hearing like, oh Ben Johnson this,
Ben Johnson that, and especially from the coaching staff side
of the thing. You can kind of tell when you

(41:43):
hear Dan Campbell talk that he's like, I'm here, bro,
this guy's gotten way too much credit. All right, let's
take a quick break. We've gone around the table three times.
I thought we might get like fifty players in today.
That is definitely not happened. We've gone fifteen players deep.
But we'll keep going after this. Back on NFL Daily,

(42:11):
our super producer Eric Roberts tells me he has the
results of last year's fantasy draft. So it's a little delayed,
but we are going to declare a champion.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Now let's see not the results, but it's the teams
and we could do some just kind of eyeball him.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Well, I know, let's let's just let's see the graphic
uh and yes everyone subscribe. Watch on YouTube you can
see it as well. Team Marcus smartly led the Way
with Jane Daniels had a Jamara in the mix. I
like that team with.

Speaker 5 (42:42):
The Christian McCaffrey Canci.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Yeah, yeah, it might be a team killer. Let's go
on to the next team. My team with Josh Allen,
Saquon Man, I.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
Think I think that's the winner.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Jefferson, A J.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Brown, Talton, a couple of week spots there, but that's
looking good. Team Clay Bahn, Lamar, Jehan Gibbs, Tyree Cup.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
And Pitts. I think my team got a bill better.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
And then finally Team Florio, Anthony Richards, Anthony Richards, Isaiah Pacheco.
I'm not even going to read the rest of them
because that team stinks. Four good ras, CD McBride, you're
not good. I'm gonna go ahead and do it. I'm
declaring myself the championship.

Speaker 5 (43:26):
I think that's fair.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Unfortunately, that didn't happen in my actual league. Had lost
in the first round with Saquon Barkley. Just you're through
any good enough? All right, Lacon, you're up. And this
is the sixteenth pick, and Patrick is ambitious. He says
we can get through fifty still, I don't think.

Speaker 6 (43:48):
I don't know that, But I'm going with the guy
that I spoke about before, Drake London. I have high
expectations for him and this offense over there in Atlanta,
and Zach Robinson wants to get this offense to be
a little bit more a going downfield aggressive, So those yards,
those touchdowns are all going to increase this year where
I think that Drake London can definitely crack that top five.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
He is one of my dark horses. I don't you know.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
It's funny because I was saying him versus A. J.
Brown as disrespectful. First of all, looking at the ADP,
he literally is going ahead of A J. Brown, so
it's not a crazy take. Secondly, I do think his
numbers would have been on another planet, and he really
is that dude, And unlike AJ Brown, he won't have
as much competition I don't think for reception.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
So that makes total sense.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
When I'm thinking about this draft, I'm thinking about, like,
all right, who do I want to kind of plant
some flags on to take higher than maybe ADP is
and Chase Brown is really high on that list for me,
and so once again it looks like I've sniped Patrick
fold up the running backs. I just s he's everything
you want out of a fantasy running back in terms
of the offense, his ability to stay on the field,

(44:52):
his ability to catch passes. He passes the eye test,
He's gotten a little better each year of his career,
and it just couldn't be a better SCE situation for him.

Speaker 8 (45:01):
Yeah, it's so so useful, especially the passing game around
the goal because a lot of folks think, oh, you know,
you gotta have a sledgehammer to get touchdowns. No, Like,
the way they utilize them in the red zone makes
it even more even more clear.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
I mean, you know they're giving the ball in the
in the goal line too, like in the biggest of
the spots. A lot of times it's the third down backs,
it's the James Whites of.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
The world breaking tackles.

Speaker 5 (45:23):
Still should have a Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Yeah, all right, you're at Patrick. Then I will get.

Speaker 8 (45:27):
Some positional value here and take brock Powers because he's
the wide receiver, one of the of the Las Vegas Raiders,
and I get him at a tight end spot where
I feel there is there's going to be a golf
and I think there's going to be a golf for
years where Brock Bowers will be in a tier of
his own.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Hm M.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
I feel confident here and I can get a wide
receiver somewhere else.

Speaker 6 (45:48):
I'm thinking that Brock Powers might be a little inflated
right now. There's going to be situational targets that we're
going to be looking at last season where I think
the identity of this Raiders offense is atching gent. That's
why we're seeing him not being used out wide. In
the last preseason game, he was strictly in the type
position as a tight end. So I think there's other
passing options there as well that we may be sleeping on. Yeah,

(46:11):
and Jack Besh, he's a physical wife, no man, I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
He gave a lot of.

Speaker 5 (46:17):
Run Jack the last they did.

Speaker 8 (46:20):
And they have one of the more aggressive quarterbacks in
the NFL who makes a lot of downfield targets.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
And Norton, Yeah, well, sleepy sleepy Sea spezer out there.

Speaker 8 (46:31):
And I think right, Trey Tucker stretches the field. Uh,
of course, of course he gets a few targets. The
most targets on this team. I feel very confident are
going to go to.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
An I was sold on brock Bauers fantasy this year
when Gino had the quote in training camp where he said, like,
I just feel bad on the throws.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
I don't throw it too.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
He literally says, like I feel like I should throw
it to him every single snap. I do think mid
second round for a tight end. Maybe that's maybe I'm
just old school, but.

Speaker 5 (47:04):
That's what I don't like.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
It's just hard expensive. It's hard for me to get
over that, which I shouldn't. I shouldn't be like that.
I remember Kelsey was up there a couple of years ago.
It's like it never feels good to me.

Speaker 7 (47:13):
Every every few years we cycled through that tight because
it was it was Gronk for a while, then it
was Kelsey and now Bowers. Is that actually we sort
of did. It was Sam Laporta, but it wasn't quite
as bad. You only had one year of you.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Only got to play one and so that that's that's
hard for me when I I maybe disagree where I
don't think it's a huge gap between him McBride and Kidtle,
but those guys all deserve in the spot.

Speaker 5 (47:37):
League has the more I think it makes sense when
you only need one. I'm like, but we don't have
any rules here, So.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
There we were living in Talent, completely lawless. We're trying
to mirror the country as a whole. Florio, you're up.

Speaker 5 (47:51):
I'll go with two I brought up last time. I'll
go with Devon Han who is my RB four. As
a rookie, he averaged almost eight yards per carry, and
then last year he had the points as a receiver
amongst all backs. And I don't think a whole lot
changes for Miami. Like I think they want to to
get rid of the ball as quickly as possible, and
that is dumping it off to a Chan. And he's
the only dolphin I want this year.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Is there anyone else with me? I'm kind of the
anti a Chan brigade, at least for fantasy.

Speaker 5 (48:18):
I was.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
I was that guy last year. I'm coming around though.
I think he got it done in the end.

Speaker 7 (48:23):
But yeah, my only worry is if things go bad
and they fire Mike McDaniel in the midpoint of the year, Like,
how much does that change things? Because that feels like
it's very much on the table.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
He seems to me like the flip side of what
we were talking about with aj Brown, Whereas like, I
can't put him in this tier of players that are
getting draft around him as an actual player, like and
so I just feel better about the types of quarterbacks,
even that it would be taken here the wide receivers.
I just there's something about him. I don't totally. He

(48:58):
seems more of a fantasy football creation and then reality.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
I mean, he's a.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Very good player, but more like a fourth fifth round
running back to me that's getting pushed up a little
bit because of the situation, and it.

Speaker 8 (49:09):
Feels like a fantasy creation until he speed shifts to
the slot. Right, it runs like a totally fair, like
a twenty yard dig that we don't see running backs run.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Goes up. What's that?

Speaker 5 (49:21):
I think part of it is like you look at gents,
you look at Henry, You're like, yeah, these guys three
hundred touches easily. Then you see Devon a Chan and
it's like that you play the same position like.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
In the Yeah, the team is weird, but for context,
he's going as high as like RB seven average draft position,
early second round. So Florio actually in that context got
a value here, and it's it's hardly a crazy pick.
I think I'm on an island just a little wary
of him. Marcus, you're up, since we.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
Are, we're not following rules now or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Take who you like.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
I'm taking Lamar Jackson here. Oh I don't think. Yeah,
I knew. I knew that was good. I knew that
players be so good.

Speaker 7 (50:00):
That was I sing Patrick soul is what that was
going to do. But I mean, I'm looking at the
guy and like, look, I'm in a real fantasy draft.
I'm probably not taking Lamar at this spot.

Speaker 5 (50:09):
But if we're just.

Speaker 7 (50:09):
Talking about like who's really good and who's going to
score you a lot of fantasy points? You know, Lamar,
I don't really know what it says that Lamar Jackson
is good at football.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
He's all right well in the gap, Like he really
has been an incredible fantasy advantage.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
It's not the old you know.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
I yes, you can get good quarterbacks throughout the draft,
but if you've owned Hurtz and Lamar last year and
Josh Allen, like those guys have been league winners, and
tell me if you guys disagree, you guys are more
in on the fantasy. But they've occupied an interesting space,
Whereas I think if you just like took you didn't
even have to take them early, you just took them
where they're like ADP was the last couple of years,

(50:49):
and they were kind of like league winners for that.
So overall they've been a little undervalued, I would say,
because there really has been a gap between those top
guys and the rest of the quarterback.

Speaker 6 (50:59):
No, I agree, and then they're difference makers when you
got a guy that you could start and forgetting they're
putting up twenty five thirty points every single week. I mean, hey,
I'll spend that third round on a Jaden Daniels or
like mar Jackson. So I'm I do think that we
don't want to get into that realm where we want
to inflate these guys like the Jayden Dans sort of
world into that you know, second round, first round tier.
So I do feel like the value where they're at

(51:21):
now it's a little undervalued, But I feel a lot
better in the third and fourth round getting those guys.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Yeah, I like you, there's a pretty big difference between that.
Like it sounds good that I'm just gonna wait and
I'll I'll take Tua and whatever and some you know,
suddenly it's like week thirteen and you're like streaming back.

Speaker 6 (51:38):
Never say you're going again saying I'll take twa. That's yeah,
You're you're going south, all right, You're you're applicua. So
I'm gonna go with Josh Jacobs. Now he's not the
sexy pig, the most like oh magical, great freak tier
type of athlete. But no, he's a workhorse. Like he
was one of the five running backs last season that
had forty of thirteen touches. There's nobody back there that

(52:01):
I believe is going to take away those opportunities in
the red zone the Packers where he top five rushing
attack that goes under the radar. And I think Josh
Jacobs he's proven to us that he can put up
those big numbers that we like with Derek Henry and
Saquon Barkley on Sundays. So I think, you know, when
Emmanuel Wilson, he's an electric change of pace back. But
Marshawn Lloyd he can't stay healthy. I mean, like his

(52:22):
per injury per touch has to be insane greatly at
this point, the injury per touch, like seriously like, I'm like, man,
we're ruined for the guy mar because I know that's
your guy, Man, But I look.

Speaker 5 (52:31):
I mean, he went to SC for a year.

Speaker 7 (52:34):
I want, I want the best, roun want to have success,
but you can't get around the fact that he can't
stay on the field.

Speaker 5 (52:40):
It's a league in injuries per touch. I mean, did
we just make a set?

Speaker 1 (52:45):
I think that the twenty first pick to it just
where we're at, I do it. We should be resetty
every once in a while. It's totally fair value for
Josh Jacobs. But you're right, I wouldn't be excited about it.
I probably wouldn't do it because I guess I still
like the level of receivers here. More are now than
the running backs personally now that Chase Brown, Chase Brown
would kind of be the last of my My like

(53:07):
feels like they could be a first round value type
of running back. And that's why I'm taking Lad McConkie
because I still think Lad could be a first round
type of value. I'm taking ceiling guys and he's maybe
the last of these guys that would it be that
crazy if he was wide receiver three at the end.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Of the year.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
I don't on the podcast.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Okay, then like this on different sides. This is the
table Marcus side. I'm glad to be on the Lad side.

Speaker 7 (53:40):
I'm off the ship because I seem like you're on
an island over there.

Speaker 6 (53:43):
You're going to run the ball a ton and this
is the identity of the Chargers that they've shown us
last season. They want to pound the rock. I think
that the passive blud comes down when you add in
Nikidan Allen, who's very familiar with Justin Herbert. Like, do
we think Keenan Allen's just going to come in and
be some slouch, No, yes, I do. Allen's coming in.
He's gonna be a clear plug and play and a
familiarity that Herbert will have, Like, I think the target

(54:05):
share needs to be coming down in projections when it
comes to Ladd, an already low pass volume offense, like
they're going to win to run the rock and control
the ball that second half, they're going to run the
out of that ball man and if it's going to
be Hampton, but they'll Nagy whenever he's back up. There's
gonna be times where Ladd is gonna be like, oh well,
Lad's out there, is he getting the targets?

Speaker 1 (54:26):
I hear that, and and they're in a better position
to do it now with Hampton, and I'm sure we'll
get to him. And if we don't, we should. I mean,
he's like such an exciting, like fantasy option.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
But I was out, you.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Know, I was watching that preseason game and I was thinking, Man,
it's a I think he's still gonna have that share
because it's a pretty steep drop to Quinton Johnston. And
I like these two rookies they have Caandre Lambert, Smith's
look pretty good, Trey Harris's playing. It's like, I don't
know if they have those are they got lad who
if he's paying a little bit of a I got
taken in the second round tax if if he was

(55:00):
that twelfth pick in the draft, I think we'd look
at him a little more like just like Drake London,
because that's what he He doesn't play like Drake London,
but his production and his versatility and everything was first
round level. And then I think you look at the
rest of the team and to me, it's a bunch
of threes and fours and he's like a one. So actually,
I do disagree with you there I think it's a
big drop off.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
Yeah, they're going on this island.

Speaker 8 (55:20):
Yeah, the Greg Roman offense isn't ever going to support
a whole bunch of wide receivers.

Speaker 5 (55:26):
But there's the one. Yeah, and Ladd's the one.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
It's clear as I didn't look like I see like
Keenan Allen's in the slot and lads outside and then
they're switching him around. But I guess Keenan Allen has
something to show me because he wasn't. He wasn't the
same guy a year ago. But come in, get like
five six hundred yards was draft?

Speaker 3 (55:43):
All right? Patrick, you're up.

Speaker 8 (55:44):
Yeah, last year I destroyed my team by taking a
bunch of aging wide receivers.

Speaker 5 (55:49):
I'm not going to do that now.

Speaker 8 (55:50):
You guys have allowed Drake London to get to me
in this spot as a noted supporter of.

Speaker 5 (55:55):
Oh no, he's gone. Who took Oh yeah, look took
Drake a bunch of Drake London.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
Oh yeah, absolute.

Speaker 6 (56:00):
Don't think you know that nice little preamble too. Yeah,
right now, you're going to take.

Speaker 8 (56:07):
Everything I said in the preamble and apply it to
what I am doing here.

Speaker 6 (56:12):
Happens in drafts over the weekend where the guy's in
the back getting another drink and he misses. He goes, oh,
I want that guy. Like, No, this is normal activity
that happens in these fantasy drafts.

Speaker 5 (56:20):
I am.

Speaker 8 (56:21):
I am a believer, and I will stick on this
and have it and we can run the audio when
we do our fantasy draft.

Speaker 5 (56:26):
God willing. Next year, Tyreek Hill, I will take Tyree.

Speaker 8 (56:30):
I love that at this point, all right, still an
exceedingly exploded receiver. I know that the idea that he's
he's trying harder this year. I think he's gonna be healthier.
Uh this year. I think there was a reason for
the a little bit of decline h last year.

Speaker 5 (56:44):
I'm in.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
I'm with you, and I don't would normally want to
take those agent guys.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
I don't know what.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
I don't know if the trying harder thing is a narrative.
When he says he's dried, yeah, no, he says it
because it's a narrative. He would like to put that
out there that no, like I wasn't hurt. I'm indestructible
and it was purely my effort. And now like Krillin
has died and I can go super saying is what
makes things go crily got done, not usually into the
contract year thing of it all. But I think I'm

(57:12):
going to make an exception for the Tyreek Hill. I
think Tyreek Hill knowing there's one big contract left in
his career is not a is not a bad thing.
And and you you're going back to the well. By
the way, I like doing this. If you have kind
of a you took Tyreek last year, our producers let
us know. And I actually think it is good to
if you have one that did not live up to

(57:33):
the value, take him again the next year, like average
cost value or whatever.

Speaker 7 (57:37):
Like a guy who fumbles, right, you get him back
in and given the ball again, just to let him
know you still happen again.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
He's a Hall of Famer games. All right, Flora, here
you're up.

Speaker 5 (57:45):
I'll go with the my so brock Bowers win, But
my my tight end one in my rankings is Train McBride.
So I will take Trey McBride, who actually averaged more
points per game than brock Bowers last year. He just
missed a game due to I believe it was concussions.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
And uh.

Speaker 5 (58:02):
He was the most targeted target share wise tight end
in the red zone and he had two touchdowns, Like,
eventually that's got to become more like six to eight, right, Like,
so I think if he has positive touchdown regression, he
can he could one be the tight end one and
two he could return wide receiver one value at a

(58:22):
weaker position.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
He was your tight end last year, by the way, Yeah,
good job by you there.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Yeah, funny quarterback didn't work out, but that was literally
the best tight end value you could find.

Speaker 5 (58:32):
That worked out for sure.

Speaker 6 (58:33):
My only pushback is I think the touchdowns still remained
low because Drew Petson is the offensive coordinator going with
the third year, and it's like there's nothing that they
did this offseason that showed they changed, and just it
just naturally can't stay. The only thing that changed was
Marvin Harris's bicep ratio.

Speaker 7 (58:49):
Touchdowns. It just didn't work. They were throwing it to
him in the red zone. It just I don't know,
he just didn't end in the paint.

Speaker 6 (58:53):
Thankfully, the Rams, you know, linebackers weren't able to cover
him and he was able to shout out to them.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Huh I I by the way, well, just while we're
on the Cardinals, because I don't think Harrison.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
Maybe Harrison goes here, But what do you guys think
about Harrison?

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Because by the way, I like I see James Connor
getting taken in the fifth that's kind of like, I'm
not excited to take James Scott to be he is
the perfect I'm not excited to take guy I like
James Conner.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
What do you guys think about Harrison of this?

Speaker 7 (59:21):
I think Harrison is a victim of our own hype, right,
Like he was the guy who was super hyped. He
was he can't miss, you know, he's gonna crush in Arizona,
and it was underwhelming, right, I mean he had eight touchdowns,
which I keep looking at him like when did I
feel like they're had some sounds like yeah, like when
did he have eight touchdowns? But I just think because

(59:42):
we were so hyped on Marvin Harrison and he didn't
live up to that. Now he's being punished in fantasy
drafts because of that. And again I don't do it
him had everything to do with us and our hype
train that we that we left.

Speaker 5 (59:54):
Some I do think he could be a lot better
with a better quarterback as well. I just don't think
Kyler is is the quarterback to lift your prototypical X receiver.
Outside of DeAndre Hopkins in twenty twenty, he never really
had like huge production out of a wide receiver.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
One and he's going to like early third round wide
receiver sixteen seventeen. That feels about right. I don't have
a hot just not the one I'm usually not. I
don't have a hot take like bus or minus. That
feels about right. I like that the value is a
little lower. All right, Marcus, you still have not gone this.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
I have not.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
Marvin Harrison Junior, not going Marvin Harrison.

Speaker 7 (01:00:29):
I thought about maybe taking a certain guy to try
to tweak Lakwan, but I'm gonna go Jonathan Taylor instead.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Who is that guy you're trying to tweak?

Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
You know who I'm about. You know who I say,
But Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 7 (01:00:40):
Because I think we all have these concerns about the
Colts offense. I think Jonathan Taylor is sort of immune
to that, you know, because we know he's gonna get
the carries. We know he's a guy that doesn't have
a ton of competition in that backfield for touches and
is gonna you know, win healthy continue to be really
really productive, and.

Speaker 5 (01:00:57):
So I feel like he is.

Speaker 7 (01:00:59):
I'm he's kind of been collateral damage in all of
the concerns that we have about this Anthony Richardson Daniel
Jones battle and what it means for the offense, and
so like, he's still a really talented player who's going
to get a lot of volumes.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
So I think I'm fine with him here.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
He's old school, you're not going to get a lot
of receptions, but he's going in the late second round.
So for that value, you did well. And yet I'm
not super excited. I feel a little a little safer
with some of the wide receivers that are still on
the board, even the quarter That's.

Speaker 7 (01:01:31):
The general feeling when we talk about the coltson Fantasy, Like,
I'm not excited Josh.

Speaker 5 (01:01:36):
Jacobsy right, Like he's good where he's going, but he's
not sexy. You don't get fired up.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
We have we have one round left here, and so
you guys, just take someone that you believe needs to
be represented in this draft. That's someone that you truly
believe in, you know, even if they wouldn't be like
the safest pick here. Take take who you want.

Speaker 5 (01:01:55):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:01:56):
Margan is on the last point, I said, scared money
don't make money. And even think of another saying for that,
because Shiit Conman say that.

Speaker 7 (01:02:02):
I just said, the person who says scared money don't
make money is running a three card Monti out in
front of Vegas.

Speaker 6 (01:02:08):
That's not this okay, Kenneth Walkers. This is a dark
horse RB one, Like I'm talking RB one overall.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
Like this guy was on pace last season.

Speaker 6 (01:02:19):
He sharba, we want Charmonady, but when KENNEF walker is
healthy on the field, Charmonad's on the sidelines watching the
magic now. Honestly, the Seahawks these last two weeks, in
these preseason games have shown us they want to run
the ball at the highest rate. Fifty nine percent of
their plays were the leading of all teams in the
preseason so far. Do they want to run the rock?

(01:02:39):
Kenneth Walker is electric in between the tackles outside, it
doesn't matter. Get him in open space and I think
click Kubiak getting that career high on the ground from
Alviam Kamara last season, I think that translates over to
Kenneth Walker.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
Makes a lot of sense. And he doesn't fit the
mold of like a Clint Kubiak kind of one cut
and go. I still think of you know, Drell Davison
and Clint Kobek's dad's offense with the Broncos, like that's.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
That's what that running bout and Ken Walker's kind of
the opposite.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
But if they keep blowing open holes like they have
been in the preseason, I mean he's going to take
a run sixty yards that Sharbona might only take twenty five.

Speaker 6 (01:03:17):
I had a little stat here one point seven rushing
yards before contact per rush right now, it's ring third
between the teams in the preseason.

Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
Right now.

Speaker 6 (01:03:24):
That means these guys are moving bodies and guys are
getting clear lanes and being untouched. If that translates to
anything into the regular season, Oh boyd, wasn't who I
thought you were going to talk or we're going to go.
Do you think he was going to take a mari
and Hampton because.

Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
That I think I thought he was going to take
a different rookie.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Okay, to me, Hampton, Hampton's got that. I want to
inflate his ADP right now?

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
What are we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
R J.

Speaker 5 (01:03:46):
Harvey is the name of R. Jarby. He's a big
r J.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Harvey, that's too much.

Speaker 5 (01:03:50):
That's that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Let's I feel like Hampton.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
His floor is pretty high and the ceilings sky high.
I love my team. I love stacking Ladd and Hampton together.
I know they say they're gonna share the carries and
all this stuff, and it probably will. But if we
get to week eleven twelve, like and Hampton is obviously
the most talented guy in that backfield, and it just

(01:04:17):
wouldn't surprise me if he's more true workload Bijon Robinson
type of guy. As we get later in the season,
he's not. He's not as talented. I don't think he's
gonna make people miss like that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
But he's a load.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
He's great on passing downs. He should be great on
the goal line.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
I love him. That's like my pro company. He's brock Lessner.

Speaker 6 (01:04:37):
He's a freaking team brock Lesner doing a shooting star
press off the top road. That's Amari and Hampton Like
he's able to jump over folks run through them.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
Like. That's really how I look at Hampton.

Speaker 5 (01:04:47):
I love that.

Speaker 8 (01:04:48):
Uh My pick is running through a contract discussion right now,
and I think that's fraudulent. I think the commander has
got a little cute with managing. Hey, Manute, I should
have paid him before. But I think they thought they
had a rookie quarterback and they weren't gonna have to
deal with that. None of that matters for the circumstances
of fantasy. I think I love getting Terry in the

(01:05:11):
spot and he's gonna be He's gonna be the wide
receiver one, he's gonna score touchdowns. He's got twelve last
year for a rookie. I'm not I'm not charging regression
on that.

Speaker 7 (01:05:19):
So here's here's my theory, and it's not a fantasy theory,
and I'm gonna get your opinion on this because I
feel like if you were a team that has a
decent track record of success and developing players right that
maybe you can play a little bit more hard ball.
I feel like when you're the Commanders and you got
your first little taste of success, like it feels a
little more disrespectful to be like, no, we gotta we
have to roster Bill, we have to budget watch. It

(01:05:41):
feels like you finally got something and you've brought hope
back to your fan base, Like you got to keep
that going right now.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Also, the drop off. I mean they need him. Deemo
is a nice role player to add. I don't think
that's being disrespectful. He's not a traditional wide receiver. The
next best traditional wide receiver on this team is Michael Gallup.

Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
It no.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
Not to be disrespectful.

Speaker 5 (01:06:10):
That's the point though, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Big Jersey, I got to represent my guy, Michael. I feel.

Speaker 5 (01:06:25):
Like we're picking anybody. I know who. I know who
you're picking, cam Marcus announce it.

Speaker 7 (01:06:32):
Yeah, Travon Henderson, let's know, Yeah, yeah, that's my guy
this year.

Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
I have him as U RB thirteen. I want to
move him up even more. I've had him ahead of
Hampton since before the NFL Draft, but most everyone else
has Hampton, and I understand why. But I think Henderson
was built in a lab to thrive in fantasy because
he's shifty and he's explosive, so he's gonna get a
lot of big yard running plays. As we saw, He's

(01:06:58):
an elite pass block and he's a really good receiver,
so he's going to be out there to get those
PPR points on a team that's going to run the
ball a lot. The only concern I have his goal line.
But I think he's better than Stevenson. And like if
Mike Rabral agrees and Josh McDaniel agrees, I think Henderson's
gonna be an RB one this year.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
I mean, he's checking all the boxes, he passes.

Speaker 5 (01:07:19):
I hate how good of a preseason he's having because
it's him, him, more around higher.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
And Stevenson is hurt. Look, I don't think they could
trade Stevenson. I just don't be there's no market. But
it's not even it's not crazy to imagine a world
where Rimandre is not on this Patriots team. If I
had to guess, I think he's on it, but I
I think that's like seventy five twenty five.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
It wouldn't shock me if Stevenson does not come in
plays like a late round stash guy.

Speaker 5 (01:07:49):
If that's the.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
Case, that was the Knderson's of the moon Baby. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:07:52):
I love that we talked about people getting burned. I
don't think anybody who's been burned more than people getting
burned by Gibson.

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
Oh yeah this, Oh yeah, that's that's a wrap. He's
a big dude.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
And it's funny because Rimandre did look pretty good last
time he was with Josh McDaniels. So I think if
he's on this team, he's.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Gonna have a role.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
But doesn't It doesn't really diminish my excitement about trev
and I think they can both eat. Yeah, and I
think he'd be the more valuable guy. I'm with you, Marcus,
finish us up, all right.

Speaker 7 (01:08:19):
So this is probably more of a flag plant than
it is any like kind of search for value or
anything like that. But oh, can I guess please? Is
it a wide receiver? It is Jamison wis there?

Speaker 5 (01:08:30):
It is?

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (01:08:31):
There it is. We talked about talking about these things
a lot.

Speaker 7 (01:08:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:08:38):
Last year he got over a thousand yards for the
first time. He really looked like, you know, he looked
like the guy they thought they were drafting, right, because
remember he pretty much missed almost the entirety of his
first season. He was dealing with that knee injury. Then
he had the suspension, so he missed time. At the
beginning of his second season. Last year, everything was sort
of normal, uh, and he he had his first big year.

(01:08:58):
My siracha level, take my go chi Chang level, take
trying to you know, everybody's had siracha. Let's GoChi chang,
Let's go Oh, it's so much better. It's so much better.
Is that he leads the Lions in receiving yards this year.
Maybe not catches, Yeah, that'll still be a mon Ra,
but because of their ability to do different things, to

(01:09:20):
have him be the field stretcher, to have him be
the guy that just gets out in space and has
yards after the catch, I think he has a big
yardage year this year. But I'm just I'm just really
excited about grab. Like I also wouldn't have done this
on a real team because I don't think i'd want
both Amon Ra and Jamison Williams on the same fantasy roster.
But this was just my way to sort of, you know,
stake the claim that I'm really excited about him this year.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
I agree with all that. I love that. I do
love Isaac Desla though too.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Yeah, you well, I do wonder if he's gonna get
used in contract negotiations if nothing else, this does not
affect fantasy. But they can only pay so many people,
and he's gonna get a big time contract. But if
a seats to slow kind of running down the field
doing some of the same things as Jamison, maybe they
just don't go big.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
But that that's a real world where its.

Speaker 5 (01:10:07):
Side note was it the Hall of Fame game?

Speaker 7 (01:10:09):
We needed the little story about to slaw showing up
at the Lions facility, like wearing the jersey with like
is that like wearing the band's T shirt to it an.

Speaker 6 (01:10:19):
If if you put your name on the back of it.
But he had it since he was like in middle school.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
Though.

Speaker 5 (01:10:23):
The Iron Man two came out and I went to
see it and we were coming home. We went midnight release.
It's like two am, NYPD pulls us over there, like,
where are you guys coming from? We were like, we
went to see Iron Man. My friend in the front
seat had an Iron Man's shirt. The cop went, you
wore that to see that movie? Have a good night,
and so kinda. Yeah, I would put that in the
same context.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
It's I think it's I mean, the fact that he
did that before he got the job with them, I
appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (01:10:49):
Yeah, it would be like meeting Axel Rose wearing guns
Ros T shirt with your face on it.

Speaker 5 (01:10:58):
You start singing, you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Do it is a little worrisome, like because at that level,
like you're never actually going to be friends. He'll never
fully respect you as someone on his level and so
now maybe the Lions have lost like a little bit
of respect for it's like too much of a fan.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:11:14):
Slash sponsored one of the horses on the carousel at
the La Zoo.

Speaker 5 (01:11:17):
I did not know. I learned this yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
Wow, this is how to end the show. I absolutely
love that. Again.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Check out the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast with Marcus Grant,
Mike Florio, Lakwan Jones. Now you're on there almost every time, right.

Speaker 6 (01:11:36):
Yeah, man, we're ramping up what twice to three times
GMFB stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
Come hang out with Yes, they do way more great work.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Subscribe, do all the things and then watch Patrick and
Florio and Marcus also on NFL Fantasy Live.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
It was it was a treat.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Next year we actually got to do Fantasy Week. We'll
do thirty players a game for like five days. Get through,
give it to the people. It might be a little
too much. Yes, when we're going five across, when we're
doing fantasy football, we are so freaking close.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
Football is back.

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