February 27, 2025 • 48 mins
Gregg Rosenthal and Jourdan Rodrigue of The Athletic are LIVE from Indianapolis for the NFL Scouting Combine to get you caught on buzz from around the NFL, including a quarterback battle brewing for Anthony Richardson and the Colts (01:50), Bobby Wagner's status with the Commanders (12:44), Kevin Stefanski's opinion's on this year's quarterback class (15:00) and more! After the break, Buccaneers General Manager Jason Licht (17:01), Panthers Head Coach Dave Canales (27:21), and Bears General Manager Ryan Poles (37:59) join the show.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're proud to just be
a couple of women of the NFL Scouting Combine. I'm
Greg Rosenthal here with Jordan rod Rieg from the Indianapolis
Convention Center, and yes, we were both attendees at the
Women of the NFL Happy Hour last night. Thank you
for inviting me, Jordan.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
You are so welcome, Greg.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I was so happy to see you there, along with
a couple of other very supportive men in our industry
and a crapload of women, and it was so cool.
I first attended that event seven years ago when it started.
My good friend Courtney Cronin was the one who started it.
Had a lot of support from the less than ten
women who were actually here at the combine at that time. Wow,
like seven people were at the first one in twenty nineteen.
(00:48):
There was probably three hundred people there last night.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
It was a party.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Some of some our favorites here at NFL and Network,
Jane Slater, Stacy Dale's and yeah, Courtney Cronan does awesome
work at ESPN, So that was fine night. We brought
Adam from the Block Party podcast. He's gotta do a
little work for us for the combine. Next week as well.
We are setting the table today Jordan for our interviews
(01:13):
will be the last ones to hear that we taped.
I'm really excited for you guys to hear the interviews
we did with Jason Light It was spicy.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I'm excited for listeners to hear that one specifically.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Gave me a little grief.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
The Bucks general manager, one of the best in the game,
Dave Canalis, the head coach of the Carolina Panthers, talking
about their team building process, what they need to do
on defense, Little Bryce Young of course, and then Ryan Poles,
the Bears general manager. Now Wednesday here at the combine,
much quieter from a general manager and coaching perspective. So
(01:46):
we're going to hit you with just like a little
bit of news, some from the insiders, some from the podium,
and then we'll get to the interviews and we will
get out of here and we're going to start Jordan
more veteran trade news. Yesterday it was Jonathan Allen. Today
it's Harold Landry. Ian Rappaport, our insider says the Titans
longtime pass rusher who has a lot of sacks over
(02:07):
the last few years, they've allowed him to seek a trade.
Usually that's code for we're gonna cut you if you
can't find a trade. Mildly surprising, but Titans fans will
tell you he maybe hasn't been quite as good as
the sack.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Numbers show a little up and down as a player.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah, former second round pick too, and if they cut him,
it would save them about ten and a half million,
a little bit more against the cap. But yeah, that's
that's one of those moves where you could tell new
regime is in town, in the front office in Tennessee,
gonna kind of clean out a little bit of what's
left there and try to recoup some assets.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I appreciate the listeners should really appreciate Jordan's playing hurt tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Okay, I am so glad by the way that we
got our interviews done before my voice went out.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I don't know what happened after I saw you leaving
Saint Elmos, but Jordan looked like she was on a
spaceship to having a good time.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Let's be clear, professional, you know, let's be clear. This
is the start of the combined week where you just
trade in.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Secrets all week.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yes, a lot of information.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Sawiddle insiders, you know, saw some insiders.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
On the surface, things just happened.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I walked into Nate Tice right as we were leaving,
and now he's going to join the show actually on Thursday,
just because I happened to walk past him, and he'll
break down some draft stuff. It's really great to see
everyone in one spot, and that includes the GMS as
I was talking about.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yeah, the Harold Landry. I think it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
He has a lot of production, but he might end
up being on my top one on one free agency
if they can't find a trade for him. I thought
it was interesting. Chris Ballard said, very plainly, Anthony Richardson
will be facing an open competition at quarterback coming up
this season.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
What do you think that means.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
For the type of quarterback that they will bring in
because there's not really a guy to compete with him
that's currently on the roster Joe Flacco as a free agent.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I know, and we've talked about this on previous shows.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
There are a slew of like quote unquote bridge quarterbacks
who could also maybe serve as possible number two or
competitive quarterbacks to like put a little juice in that room.
This seems like one of those things we see every
year from coaches who are maybe not satisfied with the
level of play so far to this point of their
quarterback where they try to put a little fire under them.
(04:26):
They try to make sure that you know, they feel
like they're being challenged a little bit in training camp
in OTAs. So I think some of these quarterbacks, you know,
it's not going to be Gardner Minshew, we know this,
Jacoby Brissette, you know, Mac Jones. It's not a great
situation for them to be in to say that they're
(04:46):
going to bring in a competition this way. But I
could also see them looking in the draft middle to
later rounds, like there's some really solid number twos that
might be available.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I'm going to throw a name out there. Derek Carr
would make sense.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Derek Carr would make sense.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
To me on the Colts.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I don't know if they'd give up anything for him,
but I think he would be a guy that fits
about the level of the right competition Because I the
way he said it, I think he was meaning Anthony's
got to play well. This is going to be good
for Anthony to have to compete, and that they should.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
They will have someone at the level.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Of a Brissette or a Derek Carr, which will not
necessarily be a total home run to beat out.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
So we will see how that goes.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Interesting, they are not just putting all their chips in
the Anthony Richardson basket.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
This year.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Darren Mujie talked that the Jets general manager and he
mentioned DeVante Adams, something we didn't talk about on Tuesday's show,
and he gave the dreaded Davante is on the team
quote unquote.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Right now ooo death sentence.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah he's done. I guess it really is. Yeah, can
you get it? Can you get a draft pick?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Do you think for DeVante Adams in the year twenty
twenty five with a quite a large contract?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
The contract I think is going to be a sticking
point for a lot of teams. But I think he
can obviously, I mean it's Davante Adams. I think he
can still contribute at a high level or medium high
level anywhere he goes. I think this is a little
bit interesting because it kind of is tied to Aaron Rodgers'
potential market or lack thereof, whichever way that shakes out,
(06:19):
because that's one of those situations where I think Aaron
Rodgers is the one who gets maybe a pick swapped
or something because he if he really wants DeVante Adams,
which there's some reporting as of the morning we're recording this,
that he would want to bring him with him wherever
he does go. If he does go somewhere, and if
it is a certain a team that is willing to
(06:39):
give up any capital, then that would be the case.
Which is like, it's almost a two person deal.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
It's so strange to me because like, are they at
the point is Rogers, especially at the point of his career,
that he can dictate any of this.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
So I don't think that he is personally and I
don't think he should be or should feel that way.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, but I think the right.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Team, say the right team might say that the team
easily manipulated would probably be able to he would probably
be able to do that with them.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
To me, Devanta Adams has more value. I think he
would be able to get a higher salary. He is
due thirty five million dollars this year. I have a
hard time imagining a team giving him all that. Florio,
my old boss, Mike Florio, not.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
The we were next to them all week.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yes, not the fantasy guy from the NFL, who's a
real Mike Florio too, the other Mike Florio throughout that
Rogers might have expressed some interest to the Giants, that
he might be interested in the Giants. Could they just
go across town? Either way, don't expect Devanta Adams to
be on that team. Well, while we're doing it, let's
do our daily, let's limit it to like ninety seconds
(07:44):
on Matthew Stafford. We can't go too log in Stafford.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Every single year National Nightmare continues.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
You know, I like it. I just it's gonna be
a daily upty number one.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Sean McVay had some very interesting quotes and comments on
the Fits and wit podcast new podcast Ryan Fitzpatrick Andrew Witworth.
I recommend people just listen to the whole segment because
Sean mcvac can speak better and longer. Like it's hard
to find a little clip to cut out here, but
(08:13):
I think it was nuanced and I didn't leave that
conversation feeling any different other than of course, they would
be happy to have Matthew Stafford back at their price,
and people should just check that out. The news of
the day to me was more from the Las Vegas
Review Journal, who said Tom Brady has reached out specifically
to Matthew Stafford's representatives.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Like Jimmy Sixton.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, who is allowed who As we reported and I
reported earlier this week over at the Athletic, like was
given permission by the Rams to have these types of
communications with teams. I do think it's really interesting because
we've been saying forever Greg that it's potentially the Raiders
who would be interested because they want to be aggressive.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
John Spytech, You've been saying it for weeks.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
That's the receipts people trying to do some breaking news.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Forget it. She's been breaking this for.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Weeks, and you know the Giants and that's obviously that's
been kind of the fun sub element of what this
combine has been is the poor giants beat reporters.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I mean, but it's exciting.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But like, man, they are just running all over the
place like frazzle, just trying to make sure that they're
on top of this situation. If they do finally get
a quarterback, like love that for them.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
If so.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
My friend Charlotte Carroll was at her wits end yesterday
on this that's when you saw us.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I kind of like, I kind of actually think Rogers
makes more sense with the Giants than any other team
I've heard suggested.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
So maybe it kind of feels like the equivalent of
the U up text, Like he he sent them expressed interest,
expressed potential interests. You just sent him a little Joe
Shane sent him a little U up.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Text, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, so we'll see if by the end of the
our time in Indianapolis all the reporters will be out
of here. By the end of the weekend, there could
be some movement on this front. We will see. So
I have watched, you know, some of the coaches that
have been up at the podium today.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
One of them Mike McDonald's.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
He was over at the NFL networks at very unassuming
you know, coach walking in. I was walking right behind him,
didn't realize it was him, you know, as coaches go,
not as not closer to my size than most.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I was gonna say he was there another like miscalculation.
Is I mean you were blown away by how tall
Ben Johnson, Yes, I.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Would say I was surprised that Mike McDonald's more of
just like an average yeah, on the smaller side. Type
of coach like that about him. Was asked if Gino,
you know, anticipates him being the starter. He says, I do.
John Schneider, their GM was a little more aggressive, saying
he will be our starter. Yesterday, just in case you
were curious, it was in, you know, watching Pete Carroll
(10:48):
at the podium. I was like, Man, a Pete Carroll
Gino reunion. That's that's why I know that matchup. That
would make a little bit of sense. But I don't
get the sense Seattle's looking to do that. It's more
if someone came in hot. I just don't think that's
gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah, if someone came in real hot, they'd probably at
least have to listen to it, right. But yeah, we
talked about the just off to the side of the set.
We talked about the potential of how cool would it
be if Pete Carroll and Gino loved the Raiders like
I just it would be cool.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
But the fact that they were.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
So emphatic, that Mike was so emphatic about talking about
Gino that way, it's not only keeping him, but also
you have to go part and parcel with the contract
that he has due that the extension that he's probably
due coming up as well.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, we'll see if they test Geno Smith in terms
of like, we just like to stay on this contract,
play out your contract and see if he really is
gonna become an issue.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
He might not.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
He might be like, actually, I just am going to
show up to work and be a little annoyed. I'm
on a contract here, but try to play my ass off.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
One thing I think listeners will appreciate is later in
the show you'll hear from Dave Kanalis. He and Greg
had a little bit of a geek out like moment
over their love for Gino Smith. It was endearing to watch.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
It was cute.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I also enjoyed hearing not that I wanted Jason Peters
to retire all time great tackle. I think he'll have
a real legitimate chance to make the Hall of Fame.
He'll certainly be discussed seriously and have a real shot
finish his career with the Seahawks.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
People might have forgotten he is joining.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
The Seahawks front office, which I always think it's really
cool when a player retires and immediately joins a front office,
Like that's a thinking man's player, and anyone that's ever
played with Jason Peters. Cannot speak highly more highly of him,
So just happy trails to Jason Peters. Came into the
league as a tight end for about a year and
a half and they switched positions.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
What a great career he has had. Congratulations to him.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
A former Seahawk was mentioned by Dan Quinn, who spoke
longer today than any coach I've seen, not only at
the podium, but then had a backdrop for like a
thirty minute side session with a ton of reporters. The
Washington Commanders are back like there's so many media, and man,
he talked about Bobby Wagner in such a that I
think they're really going to try to get him back
on the team.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I mean, and he played well, you know, he played
well for them. They're not asking him we talked about this, Greg.
They're not asking him to go outside of himself the
way that maybe some teams are even late in his
Seahawks tenure, certainly the Rams were asking him to do
to be that sideline to sideline guy anymore. No, they
would like him to go downhill into gaps and stop
the run and to be a captain, a team leader
(13:25):
and a real pal to Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
And listening to Quinn more than anything, I think they
look up to him. He looks up to him. He
almost sees him as like the dan Quinn of players
and man. There is something about how intelligently dan Quinn
frames every question that he's asked that you really understand
why an entire building would follow that dude. Truly a
(13:48):
great hire. They had the report cards. We don't have
time to get into all the NFLPA report cards. I
might add a future day because some of the report
card grades are funny, but dan Quinn got an A
plus one of the coaches to do so not a surprise.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I was talking to someone from the Commanders yesterday and
I said I basically I was kind of sort of
one off joke.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I was like, hey, welcome.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
To Joy, yes, and he just lit up and he
was like, oh my gosh, it feels so much better.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
The fans agree, Patriots fans not feeling a lot of
joy lately.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Watched Elliott Wolf speak today.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
A couple of little nuggets there, you know, mentioned Christian
Barmore's career in the NFL is quite up in the
air because of the blood clots that he has a
great desire to play again, but they don't know that
he's doing everything that he can to play again. But
that's a little up in the air, which is obviously
concerning for one of their very best players.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
I also appreciated his honesty.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
He thought, this draft is, you know, not too deep
at the top, not great, but great in the middle,
which you know, not exactly what you want to hear
when you have the fourth pick of the draft.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
But love the honesty there.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
And some people describe me stop.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
And then finally Stefanski, Kevin Stefan. You just admire how
that man lines up his beard daily.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
He there's got to be like a protractor situation that's
happening there.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Sure it just the neck line, the beard line. It's
all awesome. And I really liked hearing him talking at
length about the differences in the fifteen minute speed dating
sessions that he's had with Shoudar Sanders, cam Ward Jalen
Milroe and really pointing out the differences between them, being
very complimentary. He's not giving away who he likes, but
(15:27):
especially with cam Ward. You really thought the recall was
really impressive, going back being able to talk about all
the different plays at all the different spots that he had.
Shoulder stands more about the person, more about the leader,
more about how he was raised and how he commands
a room. And there they're obviously looking hard at quarterback
in Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
This is going to turn into the most annoying time
of year that we have every single year, where little
rumors and whispers and unfair things are spread about the quarterbacks,
especially at the top of this draft class. I have
heard nothing but great things about how Shoulder Sanders has
killed his interviews, Like I've heard nothing but awesome things
(16:07):
about teams coming away, just so impressed by how beyond
his years.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
He has seen.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
This is why I'm glad Like you passed the ball
that Jordan's I.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Told you, I said, Greg, I'm what I said, going
to have? Do you go to bed? Greg, I'm thirty three.
I will stay up and hear the guy.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Wait.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I admit I'm not really in the drinking mode anymore, but.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I mean, nor am I, But I'll stay up.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
It was up late last night.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I did it. We did it. We did these interviews.
Excited about him. We're going to take a quick break.
We're going to come back on the other side. Of
the break, you will hear our conversations, like I said,
with Bucks general manager Jason Light, Panthers coach Dave Canalis,
and Bear's GM Ryan Poles, and then we'll say goodbye
(16:50):
on the other side right after this break. All right,
we are here with Jason Light, general manager of the
Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and yeah, we're chatting before we even start. Jason,
you said you don't have any gotcha's like you had
(17:13):
for our friend Connor or back in the day when
he didn't predict your record to be good.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
And poor Connor in that spot.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Yeah, back in the day. It was only a year ago.
That hasn't gone away yet.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I've aged quite a bit. No, we give the Bucks
a lot of popping. Just last week we were previewing
your off season, I said, quietly, one of the best
run organizations in the NFL. Your draft record has been
outstanding over the last few years. Now you're at the point, though,
we have to decide to prioritize which of these draft picks,
(17:44):
which of the homegrown guys that you are able to keep.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Do you have anything for us?
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Let's say, on Chris Godwin, who I know you extended
that negotiating period with in your confidence and trying to
talk to him.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Yeah, Chris means a world to this team, into all
of us. I mean, there's no I mean, he's gonna
be on the mount rush more of bucks. What's all
said and done, So you know, we hope it works out.
You know, he's had a major injury, so we needed
to extend that to give us some more flexibilities, more
options with that, So hopefully it all works out.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah. A couple of the guys that came up too.
I was thinking something you guys have done a good
job is getting contracts done early. So you have some
guys like Luke Geticky, Zion McCullum, Kate I and who
have all been really good contributors. Like, how do you
kind of look at that process balancing this time of year,
you're evaluating players, you're valuing free agents, then also thinking
(18:40):
about the future with guys like that.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
Well, it definitely goes into the planning. Mike Greenberg, Jackie Davidson,
are do a great job for me with that the
cash and I mean the cap and all that stuff.
So that definitely goes into the planning because we don't
want to lose those guys, and we'd love to have
those guys, all of those guys in our future, whether
we do them, you know, in the coming months, or
whether it's know later on we're it's definitely something that
(19:02):
we will approach.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
What I have loved about the way you guys have
operated over the last several years is that you've had
a lot of different types of teams, a lot of
different personalities, big personalities. You love, a big personality at
quarterback as it turns out, And I just I'm fascinated
by how you can move so agilely when you're looking
(19:24):
at what your roster is and quickly, because there was
a time where I think everybody thought, you know, you
take on that significant amount of dead money.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
It's over for a few years.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
But you guys pivoted so quickly into the next thing,
into the next phase. It wasn't a rebuild per se,
but it was just like a next iteration. And I guess,
how do you look at your roster from that like
sort of telescopic lens.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
That so we getting Baker was key there, getting a
quarterback at the time for what we got him, for
what he was willing to take. He wasn't about the dollars.
Then he was about the opportunity, and he saw us
as an awesome opportunity. He had the foresight to know
that we had a good young team, a good and
(20:07):
some good veterans to win with, and then we benefited
by having that. It didn't we didn't take a big
hit there, and while we were eating over eighty million
dollars in dead cap that year, but it forced my
staff and our coaches to go out and rely on
rookies and to draft the right ones and to sign
(20:27):
these undrafted rookie free agents that made contributions, and to
sign some affordable free agents.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
I don't say cheap, but affordable.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
And uh, you know I I think I made a
mistake last year saying we're gonna go to the dollar
store to find players.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
But we had to. Yeah, we had to find cheap,
cheap ones. Are you know, you know we got it.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
We got it.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
But they all made a lot of them. We hit
on a lot of them for their roles, and you know,
it showed us that we have a great foundation of
some young players right now, so that we're going to
keep rolling with and we're gonna try to draft, keep
drafting well and I think we were hit a sweet
spot where we're competing every year.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
And that's coaching no because when you do have those
players and you identify it and you guys, you basically say, okay,
like we're pushing you into the world as we've drafted you,
and here you go, like we're handing you off to
the coaching staff. That has not been without turnover either,
but every year it seems like a lot of these
young guys are really getting coached up. So how do
you go about that identification process of coaching talent?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
What do you look for in your teachers?
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Well, Todd does a great job.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
The last two years we've you know, obviously a lot
of turnover at offensive coordinator and he's let me be
a part of that, let lets me advise him and
all those things.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
But he makes the call.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
But he's hired two really good ones, Dave Canals and
then Liam Cohen and then now Josh Grizzard, And I
think I think grizz is going to do an out
standy job. I think he's going to follow suit with
those guys, and I think in some ways, you know,
we can pick up where we left off and maybe
have some fresh ideas too.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yes or no.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Baker and Grizz is the name of the TV show
that you guys should be producing about those two specifically.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
I know, and you have to somehow incorporate I was
looking up when we hired Josh last year. He's from
a town called Lizard Lick.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Oh wow, you got that, like one of the Dakota's
or something.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Oh it's in North Carolina. Okay, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Can't even actually wrap my head around what a.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Cool hoodie like Lizard Lick High.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, And then you should do a sports jersey get
his name on the back too. I mean, that's that's
a mind twister.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I haven't thought a lot about like how that offense
is going to be different. You're a good person to ask, like,
do you what what do you think that he brings
Maybe that the previous coordinators didn't. That's particular particular to him.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
You know that that's still going to evolve.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
It's it kind of it's going to depend on if
we've made any additions through the draft. Who we have
accentuate the strengths of you know, Rashad and and and
Bucky and Sean Tucker. I think it's we're going to
kind of pick up where we left off and then
just like every year, evolve a little bit differently and
do some new things and some new twists.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
When you when you lose in the playoffs, like that,
a game that that could have gone either way, do
you like, do you take it specific lessons from that
game that you'll you'll use to implement this offseason.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
You see where we were lacking, and I'm not blind
where we needed some help, particularly on one side of
the ball, and you try to you try to do
your best to upgrade there and get some more depth.
It's not as easy as what some people think. The
answer isn't always just throwing a lot of cash and
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buying expensive free agents.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
No way.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
We've found that. It's you can there's other ways you
can do it. Now sometimes there's an opportunity for a
big splash. But yeah, yeah it did. And you know,
after the season, it takes me a while unless you
win the whole thing just to get over the and.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
You have you have won the whole thing. Yeah, you know, doesn't.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Try to be a little crazy football because I live
in like this all. Like one thing I said about
this year's Bucks is if you re ran that playoff tournament,
let's say twenty times, ten times, even like I actually
think there's there's at least one or two of those times,
maybe more. You would you would argue where Baker Mayfield
is up on that podium with like a Super Bowl
MVP and that the margins are one or.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Two that receipt.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Okay, yes, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
You know what, Greg, I knew it was going to
be you. Somehow I knew it was going to be you.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I'm saying there's probably like six or seventeen that I thought.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Could have won.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
You're one of them.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Appreciate it, but I'm not giving them all equal chances
to be fair, to be honest, Like, I don't know,
does it is that like the beauty of the sports
here or does that drive you crazy a little?
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Both? I mean, it's it's it feels good.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
To know that you know, you feel and you're you're
trying to think objectively that you know, we we can
win the division and get in. We have as good
a shot as anybody to get to the big dance
in the NFC. So just but we have to keep up,
we have to keep adding. We kind of can't just
sit in our hands.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
So you know, this defense always plays hard under Todd.
We know that we see it explodes off the tape
as well, but obviously shorthanded in some elements there. What
what kind of defense do you want to be? What
do you want this identity of this group to be
past the effort that they put in.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Well, I want to.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Be aggressive, we want to be fast, we want to
be physical, and we want to be I mean all
things Todd would say, and we want to be a
good tackling team. And you know Todd's always you know,
every few years does completely does a makeover and changes
a lot of the things that he does defensively to
keep it fresh. And I know he's been he's been
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in the lab lately doing some things to make things
a little bit differently this year. So it but it
all depends on the personnel that you have. So we
have to we have to help as much as we
can there.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
So we had your your former co worker, Don spy
Tech on the show. How does it feel that you've
now got a tree like a Jason light GM tree
out there in the wild.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
He's a great one to put out there. He's he's
been ready for a while and for a long time.
And he and I go way back to two thousand
and five when he was a intern with the Dolphins,
and I remember we were going to promote him to
a scouting assistant after two years of being an intern,
and I took him out golfing, and my boss at
the time, Tom Heckert, said, yeah, offer him the scouting
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assistant job, and I did, and he he teed off
and he turned around and looked at me and goes,
you know what better than that? I think, Oh, I
think I went a little bit better title, And I.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Was like what? And we ended up giving it to him.
That rules.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
That's one of those moments I almost imagine, like Baker
Mayfield's got a little bit of that.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
You're almost like, see, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
You guys like big personality.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
You're almost like I asked him in half a second,
maybe who is this guy?
Speaker 4 (26:43):
But also that's badass?
Speaker 5 (26:44):
I like. Later on, I asked him, what were you
going to do? What was your backup plany because I
didn't have one.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
How was the shot he hit? Oh he's a good golfer,
all right, I was gonna say, because if you shanked it,
and then you said that it wouldn't have the same effect.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
I mean, it's not like he it was. It was
a walk off. You know, your game, it's getting a
little bit better, but I'm still.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It's getting better on the golf course, Jason light but
has been killing it in terms of the draft. Looking
forward to all the moves the Bucks are making this offseason.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Thanks for joining the show. Appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Greg for the bulletin board material.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Oh come on, that was I'm saying they could have
won the title.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
That's thanks Jason.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
We are here with Dave Kanalis, the head coach of
the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Dave, you said, as we're getting going, you actually like
doing the media stuff that that's refreshed to hear.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Yeah, why is that?
Speaker 7 (27:37):
I think it just kind of helps crystallize perspective, goals, vision,
all those things like what do we really want to accomplish?
And so when you get asked those questions like, oh,
it's a good one. You know, I didn't thought about that,
or I know exactly how to answer this one.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, you're you're big on manifesting, are you?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
So I almost feel like talking it like basically having
a written record or an audible record in this case,
would help with that manifestation.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
Absolutely, and there's accountability to it too. I think, you know,
primarily my commitment is to Panthers fans and to the
Carolinas and and to tell them this is what we're
trying to build. And if it doesn't look like that,
that's when I get those comments and those things like, well,
you said you're gonna build this team off of this
this and that you know, It's like, yeah, I did
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say that, we're not doing that right now, or hey,
did you see this?
Speaker 5 (28:26):
This is exactly what we're looking for.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
So so we do a national show and yeah, the
Panthers fans they know you well by now. I feel
like the Bucks fans got a chance to know you.
But but nationally, I feel like the Panthers relatively under
the radar. So I was I was thinking, I've heard
you have a lot of energy. You know, I've seen it.
But I'm curious, behind closed doors, what is a Dave
Canalis meeting? Like, like, how are you running this team?
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How would you describe that? Behind the scenes?
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Just connecting.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
I want to make sure that I'm connecting with the
humans who are these guys and what are they going through?
I'd like to say this, you know going into the
off season, is they're different. You know, the names may
be the same in different positions, they have changed, They
come off of different seasons. Some have gotten married, some
have had kids, some have had deaths in the family.
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These are different people with different expectations and goals. I
think it's really critical that we reconnect as a staff
with what that is and create a joint vision for
what the next steps are for them, because I believe
that you can go a lot, go far places, go
really go where you can go to the plate, to
your potential when you're connected that way.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
You always hear too that if players talk about this,
I think especially a younger generation of coaches talk about
this too, about if you understand a little bit more
about someone else's why, you are more likely to push
harder for them because you feel like, I know a
little bit more about that person's story, so now I
don't want to let them down. Are you feeling that
mutuality between yourself and your players are entering your two now?
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Absolutely?
Speaker 7 (29:55):
And so it's us learning the players, and then it's
the players hearing the consistent messaging, and that's where I
have people that say, hey, remember go back to this,
you know, and have people around me that remind me
of the principles and so that the narrative, so that
the goal stays the same for everybody.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
You keep the receipts in a positive way.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Yeah, and let you know the receipts are They're great. Yes.
I am a huge Geno Smith fan to thank you.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
For that point where we have a sub series called
Quarterback Island where we put a select number of quarterbacks
on Quarterback Island.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
He is on the island.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Oh, but we call it Geno Island because when Greg
gets going on Geno Smith, it's it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I always like, like Dayfere, I always believed in him,
even when he was back to the jet. I was like,
he absolutely could be a high quality start it all happens.
So thank you for your contributions to him obviously, and
then Baker Mayfield and then this year with Bryce young Y. Yes,
I feel like he was a theme of our show
that we were talking about week to week as far
back as that first game he came back against the
Broncos where I thought on tape he was made better
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decisions even if it didn't show up on that box score,
He's thrown it where he wants to and good decisions
all the way through the rest of the season. I
guess from your vantage point, just what was it that
helped him improve throughout the course of the season so much?
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Yeah, just his toughness. You said it.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
That Broncos game, we score a touchdown on the opening drive,
it felt different. I have so much respect for Bryce
taking the challenges of the situation and just going right
back to work. He just kept working and when he
got his opportunity, he took it and he was letting
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me know, he was letting the team know, I'm here,
this is my team. Here we go. And it was
just a weekly commitment to that, you know. And I'm
so excited to just get back going. I know, we
still got a couple of months, you know, to really,
you know, start reconnecting on the things that I was
kind of teaching.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
For the first time.
Speaker 7 (31:58):
But to be able to build off of the those things,
but to have it just helps me visualize what we
can become. Knowing Bryce is going to be our quarterback,
how do we build this thing out so that we
can achieve our best.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
It was a joyful thing watching him be so kind.
It was like he remembered who the f he is,
really no doubt, and that was a joyful thing to see.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
And we did not, obviously get to see.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Behind the scenes, behind closed doors, what those little turning
points are, because I don't think with anyone in life,
it's not one massive catalytic moment. It's a series of
small moments back to yourself, right, And so I wonder
what you saw from him, how he came back to
himself and the group around him, how they supported him
in that.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 7 (32:38):
I think it was a mental discipline, toughness to remember
who he is, to remember how he got here, who
he's always been, and he's always had challenges and he's
always overcome. And that's the belief that he has in
himself first and foremost. You know, don't wait on me
to make decisions for you, and he didn't. He got
in there and he took it. And that's the thing
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that I respect the most. And such a cool meeting
to leave this season, kind of like your exit interview
type of thing, and I can feel this mutual respect
for each other of I respect you for how you
responded to this challenge, and I could feel his respect
for me to like and as we've done it, I'm
going to shape this offense to have your signature on it,
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to make the things that you do well come to life.
And I want your input, I want you involved. This
is your team. Let's do this thing together.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
So really empowering, I think.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
At the wide receiver position, you draft Xavier lag At
how you mentioned earlier on Tuesday that he's gonna be
overcoming foot surgery offseason, you found a good undrafted rookie
and Jail and Coker. Do you expect that group to
be added to and do you think Adam Feelin is
going to be part of your future plans too.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
I certainly hope Adam is hopefully.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
You know, he had fun down the stretch as he
came back to us, and Bryce found a to hit
him down the field and short and intermediate, and I
just was like, man, he's such a phenomenal player still,
you know, and the impact that he has on Xavier
and Jalen, you know, and guys like David Moore who
are veteran ride receivers who know how to work, you know,
and do that, but we're always going to try to
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challenge the roster. We're always going to try to like
make everyone's play step up. I don't think you can
ever go into any offseason and just go to, ah,
now we're good here, you know. I would love to
just just mess things up a little bit by adding
somebody really talented and see if these other players can
find another level.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Yeah, you know, and that's the beauty of competition.
Speaker 7 (34:38):
That's why I truly believe you challenge your roster by
adding in free agency and the draft every year instead
of just staying away from certain positions.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
And that's that's a process. Obviously, you collaborate with dan
on and I'm kind of wondering, you know, now that
you guys have some momentum, some experience together, what is
that like, what have you taken from each other? How
do you identify talent together? And maybe what has changed
about each other that you've taken from each other.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (35:03):
I think spending a year of just talking about our
team has really helped come to the combine this year,
you know, with different eyes. I think that the more
that he understands about my offense, defense, our schemes, and
he says, Okay, I know how to fit these players
into our schemes, you know, and for us to continue
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to become aligned and to make those decisions with all
of those things in mind. The more our coaches talk,
the more the scouts tell us how they're profiling these players,
you know, the tighter we can get in our decisions,
you know. And I think we'll see that the more
time we spend together.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Do you think it's safe to say you might have
more needs on defense? And is there anything you're looking
for specifically defensively this offseason?
Speaker 7 (35:49):
I think it's just about stopping the run. We got
to stop the run.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
You know.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
That was It's no secret you know that was our kryptonite,
you know, and philosophically, that's something that we all believe in.
It starts there, and we address some things on the
offensive line. We'll address some things up front on the defense,
but it comes from different spots. It's not just the
front play. It starts there, but it's your inside backers,
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it's your safety play. Do they show up physically and
aggressive at the point of attack? Are we playing that
high level of pursuit of defense that I know we
can and should play it's demanding those types of things,
you know, and I really think that we can make
an impact this year.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I have studied Jiro everywe in that defensive system for
a long time, and I think it's under under It
was under discussed that some of the technique that you
have to play with up front, it's just not for everybody.
It's not a fit for everybody, and it takes some
time to match, like you said, to match the right
players with that scheme. Getting a certain very very very
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very good defensive tackle healthy and back for you guys
next year will probably helped too.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
Being in Tampa for a year, laying against Derek Brown,
you ask yourself, do you want to run at him
or away from him? There's no right answer. You just
have to You have to know that there's going to
be an issue at this place, so you have to
find creative ways to run either way, you know.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
So that's a that's a real challenge.
Speaker 7 (37:19):
So we just got better getting Derek Brown back and
having him be out there.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
You know.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
But it's not just about his ability, it's about his character.
It's about how he practices the strain that he plays with.
He's the energizer. Bunny he's sidelined a sideline as big
as he is. He chases things down and gets there
in a bad mood and you just can't move him.
So that's a big piece of it, you know. But
getting the whole unit to play together, you know, but certainly,
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certainly having that mentality back in that in that room
is gonna be helpful.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Love hearing about that energy this man, Dave Canalis, the
head coach of the Carolina Panthers, appreciate your energy, that
you actually like doing this with us, So thank you
for joining us.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
All Right, we are here with Ryan Poles, the general
manager of the Chicago Bears, a popular man here in
a crowded convention center in Indianapolis. I'm going through the
cap space. I'm a dork, I like, you know, checking
out the cap space, and I want to ask you
a theoretical question to get to get going here. You
have seventy nine million dollars in cap space right now,
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according to over the cap Do you think there is
such a thing as too much cap space?
Speaker 8 (38:24):
No?
Speaker 4 (38:25):
No, no, no.
Speaker 8 (38:26):
You want as much flexibility as possible.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
But don't you want to be like sometimes I find
there's almost more cap space sometimes than great players to
spend the cap space on. So as a general manager
kind of how do you balance that short and long
term in terms of being able to spend that cap space?
Speaker 9 (38:45):
Yeah, I think you know, you can usually start off
with a quarterback position and where you are there and
build from there. But yeah, having the flexibility to acquire
players to bring on your roster. But I think the
other important piece that we don't really talk about that
much is is extending and paying the guys that are
on your roster, and we should have some opportunities to
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do both of those things this year. So the flexibility
has been great. And I got to give a lot
of credit to Matt Feinstein, who's are just promoted to
VP of Football Operations our administration for setting us up
well and making sure that we're thoughtful in the way
that we spend how we do our contracts, both short
term and long term. So it's helped us be in
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this position to keep going.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
How do you guys talk as a staff about combinations,
Because obviously you guys always like to add and develop
in the draft, and you have done that. You also
always like to bring in key pieces one or two
that really can supplement that young core as well. How
do you talk about combinations? How do you I guess
how do you argue too about combinations?
Speaker 9 (39:47):
Yeah, we go around and around and different philosophies on
how to build a roster. Obviously, you would love to
always go through the draft and develop your own players,
but there's gonna be opportunities that pop up where there's
certain teams that have situations where they're kind of maxed
out based on having a veteran quarterback on the roster
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that they have to make tough decisions, and that brings
up opportunities for us that have cap space to bring
those players on.
Speaker 8 (40:15):
So you want to be strategic with it.
Speaker 9 (40:16):
I think the big thing is making sure you know
what type of player you're getting because you don't get
to do the research that you do while you're at
the combat. You can't sit down and talk to them,
so there is some risk there, so previous relationships and
also some research along the way to make sure you're bringing.
Speaker 8 (40:33):
The right type of guys that fit your culture.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
I think that's so interesting because you also have a
brand new perspective via Ben coming in sort of a
fresh set of eyes on not just you guys's processes,
the collaborative efforts as well, but also just his relationships
with players and these people that he knows what has
that been like onboarding him, but also I imagine he's
looking at different parts of of y'all's process with a
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brand new set of eyes on it.
Speaker 8 (40:57):
Yeah, it's been really good.
Speaker 9 (40:58):
Anytime you can add a different and make those tweaks
and changes to make your process even better, it's critical
to growth and make sure that you you you know,
you're keeping up with the times and you're also staying
open mind on how you do things. One thing that
we do what I'm proud of is any new staff
member that comes in, Uh, we do a cohabitation report,
so that player goes through all of let's you say,
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all the players in free agency that they've touched and
that could be over the last three, four or five years,
and they do a one or two liner to just
give us some more information about the players that we
could potentially bring in the building.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah, and some of the guys that are are on
my top one oh one free agents list. Uh, you
know we're coached up by by Ben Johnson last year
Kevin Zeitler. So that sort of brings a question. I
can almost hear the Bears fans in my life like
at you know, saying, ask them about the offensive line.
You haven't spent a lot in free agency, not that
you haven't brought in free agents in the past, but
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you've built a little more through the draft. On the
offensive line. You have, you know, three guys that were
playing starting snaps last year that are free agency. Do
you think you'll push a little more in free agency
with the offensive line this year?
Speaker 9 (42:05):
Yeah, I think there's a good opportunity for us to
do that. You know, when you look at our interior,
there's some space there where I think we can move
the needle and get our team to take the next step. Obviously,
when you do that, you get added protection in the
past game, but I think more importantly running the ball efficiently,
which creates balance, and we all know when you get
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to the backside of the season December January February, the
ability to run the ball is critical. So we'll be
taking a hard look at that spot.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
I think an underrated and probably not spoken about as
much element of finding those guys is the partnerships and
the relationships that you have to the players have to
learn each other to with the center quarterback, Those guys
have to learn each other just as much as you
have to project what will be the right fit. Yeah,
so what kind of center does Caleb Williams need in
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his life right now? Like what qualities do you think
are best partnered with him? Because that could be a
ten year relationship if it works.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (43:04):
No, it's important.
Speaker 9 (43:06):
I start with overall just intelligence, and that can come
in different ways.
Speaker 8 (43:10):
You know, if you were to go through the draft process,
that player has to have.
Speaker 9 (43:14):
A great understanding of the game of defenses and be
a high end communicator to get everything lined up as
much as possible. If you go the route of free agency,
that command up front is going to be critical. The
more you can take off young quarterbacks play at the
lone of scrimmage, the faster that they can play and
make their decisions, which is important. So we'll be looking
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at both both of those things on both the draft
and for agency.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yeah, you're you're a former alignment. I don't need to
tell you that. It is hard to know.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
I saw I'm kind of light up a little bit
when we were like, oh, oh line, here we go. Hard.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
It is hard every year I make that list.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
It is hard to find offensive linement in free agency
just because they are that value.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
You have one.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
So I'm gonna throw up just a couple of your
free agent names at you. Just Tevin Jenkins is a
guy who's played a lot for you, and then Keenan Allen.
Kind of where are you at with maybe trying to
retain those two guys this year?
Speaker 9 (44:05):
Yeah, So that's part of the combine process. We're gonna
spend time with their reps and and clear that up
with them in terms of direction.
Speaker 8 (44:14):
There's a lot of different factors.
Speaker 9 (44:15):
There's there's money, there's age, there's durability, things like that.
So we'll make sure we get with them and get
a clear picture on how we're going to move forward.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
At the same time, you guys will be interviewing prospects.
And again, it's kind of I kind of love this
when you have a new head coach because you learn
a lot about each other in a tiny room very quickly.
Right And I know you went through the interview process
and you know him pretty well already, But what if
you learned about Ben how does he interview players?
Speaker 2 (44:40):
What what do you like about it?
Speaker 3 (44:41):
What might you say yeah, that we can't see that,
we don't know about.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
That, A little extra.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Chip watch, little chip watch on the shoulder, I think.
Speaker 9 (44:50):
Yeah, I talked about that there was a weird narrative
before that he didn't have a lot of juice and
he was just kind of a smart guy that would
sit in the corner that is not even close to
being the truth. He's got a lot of energy. But
what I like about just the interview process with the
players or you know, talking strategy on how to put
a team together or even building a staff. He's very,
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very thoughtful and strategic on how he wants to do it.
He values the team dynamics of the chemistry of how
everything is going to work together. But in these interviews,
I think also coming from the offensive coordinator's position, you know,
we did some defensive guys yesterday, he took a step
back and just let Dennis and our position coaches do
their things so we all can learn, you know, about
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the player and what he knows and.
Speaker 8 (45:35):
What he doesn't know.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
And I liked that energy. I liked that he was
calling people out by name. Oh absolutely far into certain
coaching trees, by dynamic and yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
I loved it.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
It were so easy in the media, just give us
a little red meat. Like after seeing him, I was like,
he is not what I heard. It is absolutely great
and so kind of thinking about that him as the
Barts head coach. It's interesting because you've been there since
twenty two and he is a new head coach, and
sometimes when there's a new head coach, you have a
little bit of a timeline of Okay, we're going to
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give this guy a little time to contend and compete.
But you're in a very competitive vision statistically one of
the best of all of all time. How do you
see your timeline and his timeline meeting up and are
you guys ready to go win that division this year?
Speaker 9 (46:19):
To compete to go win it? Yeah, And he talked
about that in the opener. We're going to get after
it and really not afraid of that at all.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
Man.
Speaker 9 (46:27):
We believe we have the pieces to compete fast. And
it's a beautiful thing because he's from in the division
and he knows what it looks like.
Speaker 8 (46:34):
So we're excited to get started, all right.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Ryan Poles, general manager of the Chicago Bears, just has
you know, one of the most loyal, best fan bases
in the entire world. You've got their hearts in your hand.
Good luck to you this week. Thank you so much,
Thank you all right, that.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
Was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
I love being back in the Combine mix. First time
I've been here in three years, and I hope we
can do this again. And yeah, I loved Jason Light
holding my feet to the fire and doing some quick
math getting on me for like you gave us a
five ten percent chance and when I was like, yeah,
that's fair, I mean that's like you're one of six
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or seven teams that would have been that high.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
It was everything, and listeners, I would encourage you to
go check that one out specifically on YouTube because Greg's
reaction when Jason Light caught him in like almost mid
sentence was just it was everything.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
It was so good. It was awesome.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
This is my eighth Combine. This is probably the most
fun so far that I've had with you, Greg.
Speaker 8 (47:31):
It's been awesome.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yes, thank you to all our friends at ihart who
have helped us with the week, and obviously Eric Roberts
and Chris Babona back in Los Angeles editing in it
and making it look great. We will have one more
show from Indianapolis. It's me and Nate Ty starting to
look ahead to some of the combine drills and yeah,
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we actually will have our first night of combine drills
to start recapping. That's all gonna start. So really excited
for that. And I guess once we said football was
back last episode, dost mean it stays back?
Speaker 4 (48:09):
We can't go back. I guess it's back. We'll see
you Friday
Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're proud to just be
a couple of women of the NFL Scouting Combine. I'm
Greg Rosenthal here with Jordan rod Rieg from the Indianapolis
Convention Center, and yes, we were both attendees at the
Women of the NFL Happy Hour last night. Thank you
for inviting me, Jordan.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
You are so welcome, Greg.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I was so happy to see you there, along with
a couple of other very supportive men in our industry
and a crapload of women, and it was so cool.
I first attended that event seven years ago when it started.
My good friend Courtney Cronin was the one who started it.
Had a lot of support from the less than ten
women who were actually here at the combine at that time. Wow,
like seven people were at the first one in twenty nineteen.
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There was probably three hundred people there last night.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
It was a party.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Some of some our favorites here at NFL and Network,
Jane Slater, Stacy Dale's and yeah, Courtney Cronan does awesome
work at ESPN, So that was fine night. We brought
Adam from the Block Party podcast. He's gotta do a
little work for us for the combine. Next week as well.
We are setting the table today Jordan for our interviews
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will be the last ones to hear that we taped.
I'm really excited for you guys to hear the interviews
we did with Jason Light It was spicy.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I'm excited for listeners to hear that one specifically.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Gave me a little grief.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
The Bucks general manager, one of the best in the game,
Dave Canalis, the head coach of the Carolina Panthers, talking
about their team building process, what they need to do
on defense, Little Bryce Young of course, and then Ryan Poles,
the Bears general manager. Now Wednesday here at the combine,
much quieter from a general manager and coaching perspective. So
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we're going to hit you with just like a little
bit of news, some from the insiders, some from the podium,
and then we'll get to the interviews and we will
get out of here and we're going to start Jordan
more veteran trade news. Yesterday it was Jonathan Allen. Today
it's Harold Landry. Ian Rappaport, our insider says the Titans
longtime pass rusher who has a lot of sacks over
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the last few years, they've allowed him to seek a trade.
Usually that's code for we're gonna cut you if you
can't find a trade. Mildly surprising, but Titans fans will
tell you he maybe hasn't been quite as good as
the sack.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Numbers show a little up and down as a player.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah, former second round pick too, and if they cut him,
it would save them about ten and a half million,
a little bit more against the cap. But yeah, that's
that's one of those moves where you could tell new
regime is in town, in the front office in Tennessee,
gonna kind of clean out a little bit of what's
left there and try to recoup some assets.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I appreciate the listeners should really appreciate Jordan's playing hurt tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Okay, I am so glad by the way that we
got our interviews done before my voice went out.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I don't know what happened after I saw you leaving
Saint Elmos, but Jordan looked like she was on a
spaceship to having a good time.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Let's be clear, professional, you know, let's be clear. This
is the start of the combined week where you just
trade in.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Secrets all week.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yes, a lot of information.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Sawiddle insiders, you know, saw some insiders.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
On the surface, things just happened.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I walked into Nate Tice right as we were leaving,
and now he's going to join the show actually on Thursday,
just because I happened to walk past him, and he'll
break down some draft stuff. It's really great to see
everyone in one spot, and that includes the GMS as
I was talking about.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yeah, the Harold Landry. I think it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
He has a lot of production, but he might end
up being on my top one on one free agency
if they can't find a trade for him. I thought
it was interesting. Chris Ballard said, very plainly, Anthony Richardson
will be facing an open competition at quarterback coming up
this season.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
What do you think that means.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
For the type of quarterback that they will bring in
because there's not really a guy to compete with him
that's currently on the roster Joe Flacco as a free agent.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I know, and we've talked about this on previous shows.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
There are a slew of like quote unquote bridge quarterbacks
who could also maybe serve as possible number two or
competitive quarterbacks to like put a little juice in that room.
This seems like one of those things we see every
year from coaches who are maybe not satisfied with the
level of play so far to this point of their
quarterback where they try to put a little fire under them.
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They try to make sure that you know, they feel
like they're being challenged a little bit in training camp
in OTAs. So I think some of these quarterbacks, you know,
it's not going to be Gardner Minshew, we know this,
Jacoby Brissette, you know, Mac Jones. It's not a great
situation for them to be in to say that they're
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going to bring in a competition this way. But I
could also see them looking in the draft middle to
later rounds, like there's some really solid number twos that
might be available.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I'm going to throw a name out there. Derek Carr
would make sense.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Derek Carr would make sense.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
To me on the Colts.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I don't know if they'd give up anything for him,
but I think he would be a guy that fits
about the level of the right competition Because I the
way he said it, I think he was meaning Anthony's
got to play well. This is going to be good
for Anthony to have to compete, and that they should.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
They will have someone at the level.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Of a Brissette or a Derek Carr, which will not
necessarily be a total home run to beat out.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
So we will see how that goes.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Interesting, they are not just putting all their chips in
the Anthony Richardson basket.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
This year.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Darren Mujie talked that the Jets general manager and he
mentioned DeVante Adams, something we didn't talk about on Tuesday's show,
and he gave the dreaded Davante is on the team
quote unquote.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Right now ooo death sentence.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah he's done. I guess it really is. Yeah, can
you get it? Can you get a draft pick?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Do you think for DeVante Adams in the year twenty
twenty five with a quite a large contract?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
The contract I think is going to be a sticking
point for a lot of teams. But I think he
can obviously, I mean it's Davante Adams. I think he
can still contribute at a high level or medium high
level anywhere he goes. I think this is a little
bit interesting because it kind of is tied to Aaron Rodgers'
potential market or lack thereof, whichever way that shakes out,
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because that's one of those situations where I think Aaron
Rodgers is the one who gets maybe a pick swapped
or something because he if he really wants DeVante Adams,
which there's some reporting as of the morning we're recording this,
that he would want to bring him with him wherever
he does go. If he does go somewhere, and if
it is a certain a team that is willing to
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give up any capital, then that would be the case.
Which is like, it's almost a two person deal.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
It's so strange to me because like, are they at
the point is Rogers, especially at the point of his career,
that he can dictate any of this.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
So I don't think that he is personally and I
don't think he should be or should feel that way.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, but I think the right.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Team, say the right team might say that the team
easily manipulated would probably be able to he would probably
be able to do that with them.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
To me, Devanta Adams has more value. I think he
would be able to get a higher salary. He is
due thirty five million dollars this year. I have a
hard time imagining a team giving him all that. Florio,
my old boss, Mike Florio, not.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
The we were next to them all week.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yes, not the fantasy guy from the NFL, who's a
real Mike Florio too, the other Mike Florio throughout that
Rogers might have expressed some interest to the Giants, that
he might be interested in the Giants. Could they just
go across town? Either way, don't expect Devanta Adams to
be on that team. Well, while we're doing it, let's
do our daily, let's limit it to like ninety seconds
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on Matthew Stafford. We can't go too log in Stafford.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Every single year National Nightmare continues.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
You know, I like it. I just it's gonna be
a daily upty number one.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Sean McVay had some very interesting quotes and comments on
the Fits and wit podcast new podcast Ryan Fitzpatrick Andrew Witworth.
I recommend people just listen to the whole segment because
Sean mcvac can speak better and longer. Like it's hard
to find a little clip to cut out here, but
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I think it was nuanced and I didn't leave that
conversation feeling any different other than of course, they would
be happy to have Matthew Stafford back at their price,
and people should just check that out. The news of
the day to me was more from the Las Vegas
Review Journal, who said Tom Brady has reached out specifically
to Matthew Stafford's representatives.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Like Jimmy Sixton.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, who is allowed who As we reported and I
reported earlier this week over at the Athletic, like was
given permission by the Rams to have these types of
communications with teams. I do think it's really interesting because
we've been saying forever Greg that it's potentially the Raiders
who would be interested because they want to be aggressive.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
John Spytech, You've been saying it for weeks.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
That's the receipts people trying to do some breaking news.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Forget it. She's been breaking this for.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Weeks, and you know the Giants and that's obviously that's
been kind of the fun sub element of what this
combine has been is the poor giants beat reporters.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I mean, but it's exciting.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But like, man, they are just running all over the
place like frazzle, just trying to make sure that they're
on top of this situation. If they do finally get
a quarterback, like love that for them.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
If so.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
My friend Charlotte Carroll was at her wits end yesterday
on this that's when you saw us.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I kind of like, I kind of actually think Rogers
makes more sense with the Giants than any other team
I've heard suggested.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
So maybe it kind of feels like the equivalent of
the U up text, Like he he sent them expressed interest,
expressed potential interests. You just sent him a little Joe
Shane sent him a little U up.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Text, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, so we'll see if by the end of the
our time in Indianapolis all the reporters will be out
of here. By the end of the weekend, there could
be some movement on this front. We will see. So
I have watched, you know, some of the coaches that
have been up at the podium today.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
One of them Mike McDonald's.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
He was over at the NFL networks at very unassuming
you know, coach walking in. I was walking right behind him,
didn't realize it was him, you know, as coaches go,
not as not closer to my size than most.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I was gonna say he was there another like miscalculation.
Is I mean you were blown away by how tall
Ben Johnson, Yes, I.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Would say I was surprised that Mike McDonald's more of
just like an average yeah, on the smaller side. Type
of coach like that about him. Was asked if Gino,
you know, anticipates him being the starter. He says, I do.
John Schneider, their GM was a little more aggressive, saying
he will be our starter. Yesterday, just in case you
were curious, it was in, you know, watching Pete Carroll
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at the podium. I was like, Man, a Pete Carroll
Gino reunion. That's that's why I know that matchup. That
would make a little bit of sense. But I don't
get the sense Seattle's looking to do that. It's more
if someone came in hot. I just don't think that's
gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah, if someone came in real hot, they'd probably at
least have to listen to it, right. But yeah, we
talked about the just off to the side of the set.
We talked about the potential of how cool would it
be if Pete Carroll and Gino loved the Raiders like
I just it would be cool.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
But the fact that they were.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
So emphatic, that Mike was so emphatic about talking about
Gino that way, it's not only keeping him, but also
you have to go part and parcel with the contract
that he has due that the extension that he's probably
due coming up as well.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, we'll see if they test Geno Smith in terms
of like, we just like to stay on this contract,
play out your contract and see if he really is
gonna become an issue.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
He might not.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
He might be like, actually, I just am going to
show up to work and be a little annoyed. I'm
on a contract here, but try to play my ass off.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
One thing I think listeners will appreciate is later in
the show you'll hear from Dave Kanalis. He and Greg
had a little bit of a geek out like moment
over their love for Gino Smith. It was endearing to watch.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
It was cute.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I also enjoyed hearing not that I wanted Jason Peters
to retire all time great tackle. I think he'll have
a real legitimate chance to make the Hall of Fame.
He'll certainly be discussed seriously and have a real shot
finish his career with the Seahawks.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
People might have forgotten he is joining.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
The Seahawks front office, which I always think it's really
cool when a player retires and immediately joins a front office,
Like that's a thinking man's player, and anyone that's ever
played with Jason Peters. Cannot speak highly more highly of him,
So just happy trails to Jason Peters. Came into the
league as a tight end for about a year and
a half and they switched positions.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
What a great career he has had. Congratulations to him.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
A former Seahawk was mentioned by Dan Quinn, who spoke
longer today than any coach I've seen, not only at
the podium, but then had a backdrop for like a
thirty minute side session with a ton of reporters. The
Washington Commanders are back like there's so many media, and man,
he talked about Bobby Wagner in such a that I
think they're really going to try to get him back
on the team.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I mean, and he played well, you know, he played
well for them. They're not asking him we talked about this, Greg.
They're not asking him to go outside of himself the
way that maybe some teams are even late in his
Seahawks tenure, certainly the Rams were asking him to do
to be that sideline to sideline guy anymore. No, they
would like him to go downhill into gaps and stop
the run and to be a captain, a team leader
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and a real pal to Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
And listening to Quinn more than anything, I think they
look up to him. He looks up to him. He
almost sees him as like the dan Quinn of players
and man. There is something about how intelligently dan Quinn
frames every question that he's asked that you really understand
why an entire building would follow that dude. Truly a
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great hire. They had the report cards. We don't have
time to get into all the NFLPA report cards. I
might add a future day because some of the report
card grades are funny, but dan Quinn got an A
plus one of the coaches to do so not a surprise.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I was talking to someone from the Commanders yesterday and
I said I basically I was kind of sort of
one off joke.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I was like, hey, welcome.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
To Joy, yes, and he just lit up and he
was like, oh my gosh, it feels so much better.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
The fans agree, Patriots fans not feeling a lot of
joy lately.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Watched Elliott Wolf speak today.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
A couple of little nuggets there, you know, mentioned Christian
Barmore's career in the NFL is quite up in the
air because of the blood clots that he has a
great desire to play again, but they don't know that
he's doing everything that he can to play again. But
that's a little up in the air, which is obviously
concerning for one of their very best players.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
I also appreciated his honesty.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
He thought, this draft is, you know, not too deep
at the top, not great, but great in the middle,
which you know, not exactly what you want to hear
when you have the fourth pick of the draft.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
But love the honesty there.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
And some people describe me stop.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
And then finally Stefanski, Kevin Stefan. You just admire how
that man lines up his beard daily.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
He there's got to be like a protractor situation that's
happening there.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Sure it just the neck line, the beard line. It's
all awesome. And I really liked hearing him talking at
length about the differences in the fifteen minute speed dating
sessions that he's had with Shoudar Sanders, cam Ward Jalen
Milroe and really pointing out the differences between them, being
very complimentary. He's not giving away who he likes, but
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especially with cam Ward. You really thought the recall was
really impressive, going back being able to talk about all
the different plays at all the different spots that he had.
Shoulder stands more about the person, more about the leader,
more about how he was raised and how he commands
a room. And there they're obviously looking hard at quarterback
in Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
This is going to turn into the most annoying time
of year that we have every single year, where little
rumors and whispers and unfair things are spread about the quarterbacks,
especially at the top of this draft class. I have
heard nothing but great things about how Shoulder Sanders has
killed his interviews, Like I've heard nothing but awesome things
(16:07):
about teams coming away, just so impressed by how beyond
his years.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
He has seen.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
This is why I'm glad Like you passed the ball
that Jordan's I.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Told you, I said, Greg, I'm what I said, going
to have? Do you go to bed? Greg, I'm thirty three.
I will stay up and hear the guy.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Wait.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I admit I'm not really in the drinking mode anymore, but.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I mean, nor am I, But I'll stay up.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
It was up late last night.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I did it. We did it. We did these interviews.
Excited about him. We're going to take a quick break.
We're going to come back on the other side. Of
the break, you will hear our conversations, like I said,
with Bucks general manager Jason Light, Panthers coach Dave Canalis,
and Bear's GM Ryan Poles, and then we'll say goodbye
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on the other side right after this break. All right,
we are here with Jason Light, general manager of the
Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and yeah, we're chatting before we even start. Jason,
you said you don't have any gotcha's like you had
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for our friend Connor or back in the day when
he didn't predict your record to be good.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
And poor Connor in that spot.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Yeah, back in the day. It was only a year ago.
That hasn't gone away yet.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I've aged quite a bit. No, we give the Bucks
a lot of popping. Just last week we were previewing
your off season, I said, quietly, one of the best
run organizations in the NFL. Your draft record has been
outstanding over the last few years. Now you're at the point, though,
we have to decide to prioritize which of these draft picks,
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which of the homegrown guys that you are able to keep.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Do you have anything for us?
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Let's say, on Chris Godwin, who I know you extended
that negotiating period with in your confidence and trying to
talk to him.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Yeah, Chris means a world to this team, into all
of us. I mean, there's no I mean, he's gonna
be on the mount rush more of bucks. What's all
said and done, So you know, we hope it works out.
You know, he's had a major injury, so we needed
to extend that to give us some more flexibilities, more
options with that, So hopefully it all works out.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah. A couple of the guys that came up too.
I was thinking something you guys have done a good
job is getting contracts done early. So you have some
guys like Luke Geticky, Zion McCullum, Kate I and who
have all been really good contributors. Like, how do you
kind of look at that process balancing this time of year,
you're evaluating players, you're valuing free agents, then also thinking
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about the future with guys like that.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
Well, it definitely goes into the planning. Mike Greenberg, Jackie Davidson,
are do a great job for me with that the
cash and I mean the cap and all that stuff.
So that definitely goes into the planning because we don't
want to lose those guys, and we'd love to have
those guys, all of those guys in our future, whether
we do them, you know, in the coming months, or
whether it's know later on we're it's definitely something that
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we will approach.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
What I have loved about the way you guys have
operated over the last several years is that you've had
a lot of different types of teams, a lot of
different personalities, big personalities. You love, a big personality at
quarterback as it turns out, And I just I'm fascinated
by how you can move so agilely when you're looking
(19:24):
at what your roster is and quickly, because there was
a time where I think everybody thought, you know, you
take on that significant amount of dead money.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
It's over for a few years.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
But you guys pivoted so quickly into the next thing,
into the next phase. It wasn't a rebuild per se,
but it was just like a next iteration. And I guess,
how do you look at your roster from that like
sort of telescopic lens.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
That so we getting Baker was key there, getting a
quarterback at the time for what we got him, for
what he was willing to take. He wasn't about the dollars.
Then he was about the opportunity, and he saw us
as an awesome opportunity. He had the foresight to know
that we had a good young team, a good and
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some good veterans to win with, and then we benefited
by having that. It didn't we didn't take a big
hit there, and while we were eating over eighty million
dollars in dead cap that year, but it forced my
staff and our coaches to go out and rely on
rookies and to draft the right ones and to sign
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these undrafted rookie free agents that made contributions, and to
sign some affordable free agents.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
I don't say cheap, but affordable.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
And uh, you know I I think I made a
mistake last year saying we're gonna go to the dollar
store to find players.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
But we had to. Yeah, we had to find cheap,
cheap ones. Are you know, you know we got it.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
We got it.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
But they all made a lot of them. We hit
on a lot of them for their roles, and you know,
it showed us that we have a great foundation of
some young players right now, so that we're going to
keep rolling with and we're gonna try to draft, keep
drafting well and I think we were hit a sweet
spot where we're competing every year.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
And that's coaching no because when you do have those
players and you identify it and you guys, you basically say, okay,
like we're pushing you into the world as we've drafted you,
and here you go, like we're handing you off to
the coaching staff. That has not been without turnover either,
but every year it seems like a lot of these
young guys are really getting coached up. So how do
you go about that identification process of coaching talent?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
What do you look for in your teachers?
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Well, Todd does a great job.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
The last two years we've you know, obviously a lot
of turnover at offensive coordinator and he's let me be
a part of that, let lets me advise him and
all those things.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
But he makes the call.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
But he's hired two really good ones, Dave Canals and
then Liam Cohen and then now Josh Grizzard, And I
think I think grizz is going to do an out
standy job. I think he's going to follow suit with
those guys, and I think in some ways, you know,
we can pick up where we left off and maybe
have some fresh ideas too.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yes or no.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Baker and Grizz is the name of the TV show
that you guys should be producing about those two specifically.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
I know, and you have to somehow incorporate I was
looking up when we hired Josh last year. He's from
a town called Lizard Lick.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Oh wow, you got that, like one of the Dakota's
or something.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Oh it's in North Carolina. Okay, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Can't even actually wrap my head around what a.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Cool hoodie like Lizard Lick High.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, And then you should do a sports jersey get
his name on the back too. I mean, that's that's
a mind twister.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I haven't thought a lot about like how that offense
is going to be different. You're a good person to ask, like,
do you what what do you think that he brings
Maybe that the previous coordinators didn't. That's particular particular to him.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
You know that that's still going to evolve.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
It's it kind of it's going to depend on if
we've made any additions through the draft. Who we have
accentuate the strengths of you know, Rashad and and and
Bucky and Sean Tucker. I think it's we're going to
kind of pick up where we left off and then
just like every year, evolve a little bit differently and
do some new things and some new twists.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
When you when you lose in the playoffs, like that,
a game that that could have gone either way, do
you like, do you take it specific lessons from that
game that you'll you'll use to implement this offseason.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
You see where we were lacking, and I'm not blind
where we needed some help, particularly on one side of
the ball, and you try to you try to do
your best to upgrade there and get some more depth.
It's not as easy as what some people think. The
answer isn't always just throwing a lot of cash and
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buying expensive free agents.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
No way.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
We've found that. It's you can there's other ways you
can do it. Now sometimes there's an opportunity for a
big splash. But yeah, yeah it did. And you know,
after the season, it takes me a while unless you
win the whole thing just to get over the and.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
You have you have won the whole thing. Yeah, you know, doesn't.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Try to be a little crazy football because I live
in like this all. Like one thing I said about
this year's Bucks is if you re ran that playoff tournament,
let's say twenty times, ten times, even like I actually
think there's there's at least one or two of those times,
maybe more. You would you would argue where Baker Mayfield
is up on that podium with like a Super Bowl
MVP and that the margins are one or.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Two that receipt.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Okay, yes, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
You know what, Greg, I knew it was going to
be you. Somehow I knew it was going to be you.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I'm saying there's probably like six or seventeen that I thought.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Could have won.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
You're one of them.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Appreciate it, but I'm not giving them all equal chances
to be fair, to be honest, Like, I don't know,
does it is that like the beauty of the sports
here or does that drive you crazy a little?
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Both? I mean, it's it's it feels good.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
To know that you know, you feel and you're you're
trying to think objectively that you know, we we can
win the division and get in. We have as good
a shot as anybody to get to the big dance
in the NFC. So just but we have to keep up,
we have to keep adding. We kind of can't just
sit in our hands.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
So you know, this defense always plays hard under Todd.
We know that we see it explodes off the tape
as well, but obviously shorthanded in some elements there. What
what kind of defense do you want to be? What
do you want this identity of this group to be
past the effort that they put in.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Well, I want to.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Be aggressive, we want to be fast, we want to
be physical, and we want to be I mean all
things Todd would say, and we want to be a
good tackling team. And you know Todd's always you know,
every few years does completely does a makeover and changes
a lot of the things that he does defensively to
keep it fresh. And I know he's been he's been
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in the lab lately doing some things to make things
a little bit differently this year. So it but it
all depends on the personnel that you have. So we
have to we have to help as much as we
can there.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
So we had your your former co worker, Don spy
Tech on the show. How does it feel that you've
now got a tree like a Jason light GM tree
out there in the wild.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
He's a great one to put out there. He's he's
been ready for a while and for a long time.
And he and I go way back to two thousand
and five when he was a intern with the Dolphins,
and I remember we were going to promote him to
a scouting assistant after two years of being an intern,
and I took him out golfing, and my boss at
the time, Tom Heckert, said, yeah, offer him the scouting
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assistant job, and I did, and he he teed off
and he turned around and looked at me and goes,
you know what better than that? I think, Oh, I
think I went a little bit better title, And I.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Was like what? And we ended up giving it to him.
That rules.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
That's one of those moments I almost imagine, like Baker
Mayfield's got a little bit of that.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
You're almost like, see, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
You guys like big personality.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
You're almost like I asked him in half a second,
maybe who is this guy?
Speaker 4 (26:43):
But also that's badass?
Speaker 5 (26:44):
I like. Later on, I asked him, what were you
going to do? What was your backup plany because I
didn't have one.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
How was the shot he hit? Oh he's a good golfer,
all right, I was gonna say, because if you shanked it,
and then you said that it wouldn't have the same effect.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
I mean, it's not like he it was. It was
a walk off. You know, your game, it's getting a
little bit better, but I'm still.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It's getting better on the golf course, Jason light but
has been killing it in terms of the draft. Looking
forward to all the moves the Bucks are making this offseason.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Thanks for joining the show. Appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Greg for the bulletin board material.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Oh come on, that was I'm saying they could have
won the title.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
That's thanks Jason.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
We are here with Dave Kanalis, the head coach of
the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Dave, you said, as we're getting going, you actually like
doing the media stuff that that's refreshed to hear.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Yeah, why is that?
Speaker 7 (27:37):
I think it just kind of helps crystallize perspective, goals, vision,
all those things like what do we really want to accomplish?
And so when you get asked those questions like, oh,
it's a good one. You know, I didn't thought about that,
or I know exactly how to answer this one.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, you're you're big on manifesting, are you?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
So I almost feel like talking it like basically having
a written record or an audible record in this case,
would help with that manifestation.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
Absolutely, and there's accountability to it too. I think, you know,
primarily my commitment is to Panthers fans and to the
Carolinas and and to tell them this is what we're
trying to build. And if it doesn't look like that,
that's when I get those comments and those things like, well,
you said you're gonna build this team off of this
this and that you know, It's like, yeah, I did
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say that, we're not doing that right now, or hey,
did you see this?
Speaker 5 (28:26):
This is exactly what we're looking for.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
So so we do a national show and yeah, the
Panthers fans they know you well by now. I feel
like the Bucks fans got a chance to know you.
But but nationally, I feel like the Panthers relatively under
the radar. So I was I was thinking, I've heard
you have a lot of energy. You know, I've seen it.
But I'm curious, behind closed doors, what is a Dave
Canalis meeting? Like, like, how are you running this team?
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How would you describe that? Behind the scenes?
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Just connecting.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
I want to make sure that I'm connecting with the
humans who are these guys and what are they going through?
I'd like to say this, you know going into the
off season, is they're different. You know, the names may
be the same in different positions, they have changed, They
come off of different seasons. Some have gotten married, some
have had kids, some have had deaths in the family.
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These are different people with different expectations and goals. I
think it's really critical that we reconnect as a staff
with what that is and create a joint vision for
what the next steps are for them, because I believe
that you can go a lot, go far places, go
really go where you can go to the plate, to
your potential when you're connected that way.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
You always hear too that if players talk about this,
I think especially a younger generation of coaches talk about
this too, about if you understand a little bit more
about someone else's why, you are more likely to push
harder for them because you feel like, I know a
little bit more about that person's story, so now I
don't want to let them down. Are you feeling that
mutuality between yourself and your players are entering your two now?
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Absolutely?
Speaker 7 (29:55):
And so it's us learning the players, and then it's
the players hearing the consistent messaging, and that's where I
have people that say, hey, remember go back to this,
you know, and have people around me that remind me
of the principles and so that the narrative, so that
the goal stays the same for everybody.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
You keep the receipts in a positive way.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Yeah, and let you know the receipts are They're great. Yes.
I am a huge Geno Smith fan to thank you.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
For that point where we have a sub series called
Quarterback Island where we put a select number of quarterbacks
on Quarterback Island.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
He is on the island.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Oh, but we call it Geno Island because when Greg
gets going on Geno Smith, it's it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I always like, like Dayfere, I always believed in him,
even when he was back to the jet. I was like,
he absolutely could be a high quality start it all happens.
So thank you for your contributions to him obviously, and
then Baker Mayfield and then this year with Bryce young Y. Yes,
I feel like he was a theme of our show
that we were talking about week to week as far
back as that first game he came back against the
Broncos where I thought on tape he was made better
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decisions even if it didn't show up on that box score,
He's thrown it where he wants to and good decisions
all the way through the rest of the season. I
guess from your vantage point, just what was it that
helped him improve throughout the course of the season so much?
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Yeah, just his toughness. You said it.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
That Broncos game, we score a touchdown on the opening drive,
it felt different. I have so much respect for Bryce
taking the challenges of the situation and just going right
back to work. He just kept working and when he
got his opportunity, he took it and he was letting
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me know, he was letting the team know, I'm here,
this is my team. Here we go. And it was
just a weekly commitment to that, you know. And I'm
so excited to just get back going. I know, we
still got a couple of months, you know, to really,
you know, start reconnecting on the things that I was
kind of teaching.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
For the first time.
Speaker 7 (31:58):
But to be able to build off of the those things,
but to have it just helps me visualize what we
can become. Knowing Bryce is going to be our quarterback,
how do we build this thing out so that we
can achieve our best.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
It was a joyful thing watching him be so kind.
It was like he remembered who the f he is,
really no doubt, and that was a joyful thing to see.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
And we did not, obviously get to see.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Behind the scenes, behind closed doors, what those little turning
points are, because I don't think with anyone in life,
it's not one massive catalytic moment. It's a series of
small moments back to yourself, right, And so I wonder
what you saw from him, how he came back to
himself and the group around him, how they supported him
in that.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 7 (32:38):
I think it was a mental discipline, toughness to remember
who he is, to remember how he got here, who
he's always been, and he's always had challenges and he's
always overcome. And that's the belief that he has in
himself first and foremost. You know, don't wait on me
to make decisions for you, and he didn't. He got
in there and he took it. And that's the thing
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that I respect the most. And such a cool meeting
to leave this season, kind of like your exit interview
type of thing, and I can feel this mutual respect
for each other of I respect you for how you
responded to this challenge, and I could feel his respect
for me to like and as we've done it, I'm
going to shape this offense to have your signature on it,
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to make the things that you do well come to life.
And I want your input, I want you involved. This
is your team. Let's do this thing together.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
So really empowering, I think.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
At the wide receiver position, you draft Xavier lag At
how you mentioned earlier on Tuesday that he's gonna be
overcoming foot surgery offseason, you found a good undrafted rookie
and Jail and Coker. Do you expect that group to
be added to and do you think Adam Feelin is
going to be part of your future plans too.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
I certainly hope Adam is hopefully.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
You know, he had fun down the stretch as he
came back to us, and Bryce found a to hit
him down the field and short and intermediate, and I
just was like, man, he's such a phenomenal player still,
you know, and the impact that he has on Xavier
and Jalen, you know, and guys like David Moore who
are veteran ride receivers who know how to work, you know,
and do that, but we're always going to try to
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challenge the roster. We're always going to try to like
make everyone's play step up. I don't think you can
ever go into any offseason and just go to, ah,
now we're good here, you know. I would love to
just just mess things up a little bit by adding
somebody really talented and see if these other players can
find another level.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Yeah, you know, and that's the beauty of competition.
Speaker 7 (34:38):
That's why I truly believe you challenge your roster by
adding in free agency and the draft every year instead
of just staying away from certain positions.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
And that's that's a process. Obviously, you collaborate with dan
on and I'm kind of wondering, you know, now that
you guys have some momentum, some experience together, what is
that like, what have you taken from each other? How
do you identify talent together? And maybe what has changed
about each other that you've taken from each other.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (35:03):
I think spending a year of just talking about our
team has really helped come to the combine this year,
you know, with different eyes. I think that the more
that he understands about my offense, defense, our schemes, and
he says, Okay, I know how to fit these players
into our schemes, you know, and for us to continue
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to become aligned and to make those decisions with all
of those things in mind. The more our coaches talk,
the more the scouts tell us how they're profiling these players,
you know, the tighter we can get in our decisions,
you know. And I think we'll see that the more
time we spend together.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Do you think it's safe to say you might have
more needs on defense? And is there anything you're looking
for specifically defensively this offseason?
Speaker 7 (35:49):
I think it's just about stopping the run. We got
to stop the run.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
You know.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
That was It's no secret you know that was our kryptonite,
you know, and philosophically, that's something that we all believe in.
It starts there, and we address some things on the
offensive line. We'll address some things up front on the defense,
but it comes from different spots. It's not just the
front play. It starts there, but it's your inside backers,
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it's your safety play. Do they show up physically and
aggressive at the point of attack? Are we playing that
high level of pursuit of defense that I know we
can and should play it's demanding those types of things,
you know, and I really think that we can make
an impact this year.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I have studied Jiro everywe in that defensive system for
a long time, and I think it's under under It
was under discussed that some of the technique that you
have to play with up front, it's just not for everybody.
It's not a fit for everybody, and it takes some
time to match, like you said, to match the right
players with that scheme. Getting a certain very very very
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very good defensive tackle healthy and back for you guys
next year will probably helped too.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
Being in Tampa for a year, laying against Derek Brown,
you ask yourself, do you want to run at him
or away from him? There's no right answer. You just
have to You have to know that there's going to
be an issue at this place, so you have to
find creative ways to run either way, you know.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
So that's a that's a real challenge.
Speaker 7 (37:19):
So we just got better getting Derek Brown back and
having him be out there.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
You know.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
But it's not just about his ability, it's about his character.
It's about how he practices the strain that he plays with.
He's the energizer. Bunny he's sidelined a sideline as big
as he is. He chases things down and gets there
in a bad mood and you just can't move him.
So that's a big piece of it, you know. But
getting the whole unit to play together, you know, but certainly,
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certainly having that mentality back in that in that room
is gonna be helpful.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Love hearing about that energy this man, Dave Canalis, the
head coach of the Carolina Panthers, appreciate your energy, that
you actually like doing this with us, So thank you
for joining us.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
All Right, we are here with Ryan Poles, the general
manager of the Chicago Bears, a popular man here in
a crowded convention center in Indianapolis. I'm going through the
cap space. I'm a dork, I like, you know, checking
out the cap space, and I want to ask you
a theoretical question to get to get going here. You
have seventy nine million dollars in cap space right now,
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according to over the cap Do you think there is
such a thing as too much cap space?
Speaker 8 (38:24):
No?
Speaker 4 (38:25):
No, no, no.
Speaker 8 (38:26):
You want as much flexibility as possible.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
But don't you want to be like sometimes I find
there's almost more cap space sometimes than great players to
spend the cap space on. So as a general manager
kind of how do you balance that short and long
term in terms of being able to spend that cap space?
Speaker 9 (38:45):
Yeah, I think you know, you can usually start off
with a quarterback position and where you are there and
build from there. But yeah, having the flexibility to acquire
players to bring on your roster. But I think the
other important piece that we don't really talk about that
much is is extending and paying the guys that are
on your roster, and we should have some opportunities to
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do both of those things this year. So the flexibility
has been great. And I got to give a lot
of credit to Matt Feinstein, who's are just promoted to
VP of Football Operations our administration for setting us up
well and making sure that we're thoughtful in the way
that we spend how we do our contracts, both short
term and long term. So it's helped us be in
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this position to keep going.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
How do you guys talk as a staff about combinations,
Because obviously you guys always like to add and develop
in the draft, and you have done that. You also
always like to bring in key pieces one or two
that really can supplement that young core as well. How
do you talk about combinations? How do you I guess
how do you argue too about combinations?
Speaker 9 (39:47):
Yeah, we go around and around and different philosophies on
how to build a roster. Obviously, you would love to
always go through the draft and develop your own players,
but there's gonna be opportunities that pop up where there's
certain teams that have situations where they're kind of maxed
out based on having a veteran quarterback on the roster
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that they have to make tough decisions, and that brings
up opportunities for us that have cap space to bring
those players on.
Speaker 8 (40:15):
So you want to be strategic with it.
Speaker 9 (40:16):
I think the big thing is making sure you know
what type of player you're getting because you don't get
to do the research that you do while you're at
the combat. You can't sit down and talk to them,
so there is some risk there, so previous relationships and
also some research along the way to make sure you're bringing.
Speaker 8 (40:33):
The right type of guys that fit your culture.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
I think that's so interesting because you also have a
brand new perspective via Ben coming in sort of a
fresh set of eyes on not just you guys's processes,
the collaborative efforts as well, but also just his relationships
with players and these people that he knows what has
that been like onboarding him, but also I imagine he's
looking at different parts of of y'all's process with a
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brand new set of eyes on it.
Speaker 8 (40:57):
Yeah, it's been really good.
Speaker 9 (40:58):
Anytime you can add a different and make those tweaks
and changes to make your process even better, it's critical
to growth and make sure that you you you know,
you're keeping up with the times and you're also staying
open mind on how you do things. One thing that
we do what I'm proud of is any new staff
member that comes in, Uh, we do a cohabitation report,
so that player goes through all of let's you say,
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all the players in free agency that they've touched and
that could be over the last three, four or five years,
and they do a one or two liner to just
give us some more information about the players that we
could potentially bring in the building.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah, and some of the guys that are are on
my top one oh one free agents list. Uh, you
know we're coached up by by Ben Johnson last year
Kevin Zeitler. So that sort of brings a question. I
can almost hear the Bears fans in my life like
at you know, saying, ask them about the offensive line.
You haven't spent a lot in free agency, not that
you haven't brought in free agents in the past, but
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you've built a little more through the draft. On the
offensive line. You have, you know, three guys that were
playing starting snaps last year that are free agency. Do
you think you'll push a little more in free agency
with the offensive line this year?
Speaker 9 (42:05):
Yeah, I think there's a good opportunity for us to
do that. You know, when you look at our interior,
there's some space there where I think we can move
the needle and get our team to take the next step. Obviously,
when you do that, you get added protection in the
past game, but I think more importantly running the ball efficiently,
which creates balance, and we all know when you get
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to the backside of the season December January February, the
ability to run the ball is critical. So we'll be
taking a hard look at that spot.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
I think an underrated and probably not spoken about as
much element of finding those guys is the partnerships and
the relationships that you have to the players have to
learn each other to with the center quarterback, Those guys
have to learn each other just as much as you
have to project what will be the right fit. Yeah,
so what kind of center does Caleb Williams need in
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his life right now? Like what qualities do you think
are best partnered with him? Because that could be a
ten year relationship if it works.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (43:04):
No, it's important.
Speaker 9 (43:06):
I start with overall just intelligence, and that can come
in different ways.
Speaker 8 (43:10):
You know, if you were to go through the draft process,
that player has to have.
Speaker 9 (43:14):
A great understanding of the game of defenses and be
a high end communicator to get everything lined up as
much as possible. If you go the route of free agency,
that command up front is going to be critical. The
more you can take off young quarterbacks play at the
lone of scrimmage, the faster that they can play and
make their decisions, which is important. So we'll be looking
(43:37):
at both both of those things on both the draft
and for agency.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yeah, you're you're a former alignment. I don't need to
tell you that. It is hard to know.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
I saw I'm kind of light up a little bit
when we were like, oh, oh line, here we go. Hard.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
It is hard every year I make that list.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
It is hard to find offensive linement in free agency
just because they are that value.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
You have one.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
So I'm gonna throw up just a couple of your
free agent names at you. Just Tevin Jenkins is a
guy who's played a lot for you, and then Keenan Allen.
Kind of where are you at with maybe trying to
retain those two guys this year?
Speaker 9 (44:05):
Yeah, So that's part of the combine process. We're gonna
spend time with their reps and and clear that up
with them in terms of direction.
Speaker 8 (44:14):
There's a lot of different factors.
Speaker 9 (44:15):
There's there's money, there's age, there's durability, things like that.
So we'll make sure we get with them and get
a clear picture on how we're going to move forward.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
At the same time, you guys will be interviewing prospects.
And again, it's kind of I kind of love this
when you have a new head coach because you learn
a lot about each other in a tiny room very quickly.
Right And I know you went through the interview process
and you know him pretty well already, But what if
you learned about Ben how does he interview players?
Speaker 2 (44:40):
What what do you like about it?
Speaker 3 (44:41):
What might you say yeah, that we can't see that,
we don't know about.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
That, A little extra.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Chip watch, little chip watch on the shoulder, I think.
Speaker 9 (44:50):
Yeah, I talked about that there was a weird narrative
before that he didn't have a lot of juice and
he was just kind of a smart guy that would
sit in the corner that is not even close to
being the truth. He's got a lot of energy. But
what I like about just the interview process with the
players or you know, talking strategy on how to put
a team together or even building a staff. He's very,
(45:11):
very thoughtful and strategic on how he wants to do it.
He values the team dynamics of the chemistry of how
everything is going to work together. But in these interviews,
I think also coming from the offensive coordinator's position, you know,
we did some defensive guys yesterday, he took a step
back and just let Dennis and our position coaches do
their things so we all can learn, you know, about
(45:33):
the player and what he knows and.
Speaker 8 (45:35):
What he doesn't know.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
And I liked that energy. I liked that he was
calling people out by name. Oh absolutely far into certain
coaching trees, by dynamic and yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
I loved it.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
It were so easy in the media, just give us
a little red meat. Like after seeing him, I was like,
he is not what I heard. It is absolutely great
and so kind of thinking about that him as the
Barts head coach. It's interesting because you've been there since
twenty two and he is a new head coach, and
sometimes when there's a new head coach, you have a
little bit of a timeline of Okay, we're going to
(46:04):
give this guy a little time to contend and compete.
But you're in a very competitive vision statistically one of
the best of all of all time. How do you
see your timeline and his timeline meeting up and are
you guys ready to go win that division this year?
Speaker 9 (46:19):
To compete to go win it? Yeah, And he talked
about that in the opener. We're going to get after
it and really not afraid of that at all.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
Man.
Speaker 9 (46:27):
We believe we have the pieces to compete fast. And
it's a beautiful thing because he's from in the division
and he knows what it looks like.
Speaker 8 (46:34):
So we're excited to get started, all right.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Ryan Poles, general manager of the Chicago Bears, just has
you know, one of the most loyal, best fan bases
in the entire world. You've got their hearts in your hand.
Good luck to you this week. Thank you so much,
Thank you all right, that.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
Was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
I love being back in the Combine mix. First time
I've been here in three years, and I hope we
can do this again. And yeah, I loved Jason Light
holding my feet to the fire and doing some quick
math getting on me for like you gave us a
five ten percent chance and when I was like, yeah,
that's fair, I mean that's like you're one of six
(47:12):
or seven teams that would have been that high.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
It was everything, and listeners, I would encourage you to
go check that one out specifically on YouTube because Greg's
reaction when Jason Light caught him in like almost mid
sentence was just it was everything.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
It was so good. It was awesome.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
This is my eighth Combine. This is probably the most
fun so far that I've had with you, Greg.
Speaker 8 (47:31):
It's been awesome.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yes, thank you to all our friends at ihart who
have helped us with the week, and obviously Eric Roberts
and Chris Babona back in Los Angeles editing in it
and making it look great. We will have one more
show from Indianapolis. It's me and Nate Ty starting to
look ahead to some of the combine drills and yeah,
(47:53):
we actually will have our first night of combine drills
to start recapping. That's all gonna start. So really excited
for that. And I guess once we said football was
back last episode, dost mean it stays back?
Speaker 4 (48:09):
We can't go back. I guess it's back. We'll see
you Friday
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Gregg Rosenthal
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