NFL Training Camp Takeaways for EVERY NFC Team

Gregg Rosenthal is joined by Patrick Claybon to get you caught up on everything happening around the NFC with training camp takeaways for every team. Gregg and Patrick start with the NFC North (01:40),  followed by the NFC East (14:55), NFC West (30:40), and NFC South (46:25).

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're still afraid of the
presidential fitness tests.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's like, remember that sit in reach.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Yeah, the sit in reach was brutal? What what was
What was it that destroyed me?

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Everything else was fine? Well, you had to do some
pull ups, that was yeah, it.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Was it was the pull ups before you had kind
of developed and if you would do static hole if
not that yeah, and and I could not do it
while like all the girls in gymnastics were cranking them out.
If only I could go back, you know, once my
upper body like started to exist, and then I could
have dominated for no reason.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Younger people probably have no idea what we're talking about.
But yeah, the sit in hold, that's just something Either
you're born with that or you're not, and you're never
probably going to get that.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
You could probably improve a little bit. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Saquon Barklay not on the Presidential Council of Fitness. He
wanted to let everyone know that he is a member
of the Philadelphia Eagles, a team that plays in the
National Football Conference. Patrick oh, okay, I should have mentioned
and Patrick claibhon is on this show. Hi, everybody, and
we're going to hit all sixteen teams in the NFC
right here in the Chris Westling podcast, We're gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Do that today.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Saikwan took a visit earlier this year that led to
him having to answer these questions, Okay, pretty solid evidence
why maybe you should just not take those visits.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Well they Yeah, he was listed as being part of
this presidential council, and he said he was shocked to
learn that. And that's how I hope our listeners feel
when they hear some of these nuggets that we go through,
because we're coming through all the reports, all the podcasts,
all the tweets, all of it to give you some nuggets.
And we're going to start in the NFC North where

(01:42):
I feel like we have reached the point of people
freaking out a little too much about the slow start
at training camp to the Bears offense. Now, Ben Johnson,
he said they had a couple good days and a
lot of the reporters there agreed late last week in
and they had a scrimmage in front of the fans

(02:03):
and it didn't go as well. Here he is answering
a question about that.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Continue that nature where it just looks.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
Like yeah, yeah, wait, it's something we're gonna have to
address for sure. You showed up more today than it
than it has in practice. So this was more like
a real game. And if it continues like that, we're
not going to win many games.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, And and that's a great that's a great, honest
look at things. I would it's it's wild how we've
been in the past few years trying to pull the
Bears folks back a little bit from like, oh, this
is this is it, and you try to try to
rain them back. Yeah, and and now here we've we've
got some false starts, as Ben Johnson noted, and delays
of game and the kind of first situation for this

(02:53):
team with a new head coach, and it's like, here
we go again. We're going to have time out struggles
and chaos. When the Lions, a generationallygue gifted team that
Ben Johnson was just on, came out in their first
preseason game, turned the ball over immediately and had five
turnovers in the game, and Dan Campbell was morose after
Like these things happen with every rendition of football teams.

(03:16):
They happen annually every year. It's a new team in
a new situation. I would urge caution there, But Johnson
is being honest. Yeah, you can't donate five yards every
time that things are going to be.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Going, and that was a problem at the beginning of
training camp. It's not just the false starts. It's like
not getting the play call out or confusion. And I
think it's a complicated offense and it's been bumpy, And
I think to your point, I think Bears fans are
just a little sensitive after seeing Jaden Daniels get to
the NFC Championship and finally assuming they had gotten their

(03:47):
great quarterback of the present and the future. But man,
it's the first couple weeks. I get at me in
the middle of October, I would say, even give it
a month of this season, like I would expect everything
to be fine. Johnson is keeping it real. I think
everyone should appreciate that. I think Liam Cohen is doing
in Jacksonville too. I like a rookie head coach that

(04:07):
is keeping it real. He just said he was disappointed
in that performance. It makes total sense that he was disappointed.
Something to do, you know, nothing to do with Kayleb Williams.
They did an exercise like situational football, where they started
the ball at the one yard line, you know, needing
to drive ninety nine yards and Grady Jared got him
for a safety like on the first play, which it's like,

(04:27):
it is embarrassing for that to happen, and it is
a reminder like everyone thought, oh, they solved their offensive
line issues, Well they got a three way battle out
left tackle without anyone totally proven. You're counting on Jonah
Jackson who was a bust for the Rams last year
and isn't healthy enough to practice still for the Bear
so he's not in there.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
And yeah, it could take a little time on.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Offense, and it's that double edged sword of ow is
Grady Jared's back or like their offensive line is bad.
But I really think if you're going to have those
types of mistakes, then the first the week of the
first preseason game is the time to have delay of
game penalties.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
I'm not gonna be.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Before you concerned about delay of games a week one
of preseason.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
So to spin that question more positively, they did ask him, like,
who are the guys on the team that you're like
confident have it all down, are always in the spot
that they need to be, And he quickly rattled off
cool comb at DJ Moore, Rome Adunze and Elimedea Zakiyas,
And he's not saying those are the best four players,
but they just have it totally down and that supports
something I really have seen a lot out of all

(05:30):
the camp reports that Rome looks better this year, and
I think we can expect a nice year two bump.
We know who Dj Moore is obviously, and Luther Burden
did get back on the field, you know since we
last talked and had a great day on Thursday where
he had a high volume day, So it's good that
he is just healthier. And so there's some negative stuff,

(05:51):
but there's plenty of positives. I think it's gonna be
a good defense. Probably the biggest takeaway that actually is
going to impact actual games of anything that's happened with
the Patrick is Jalen Johnson is uncertain to play in
Week one. So when he when Ben Johnson said that,
I was like, I appreciate the honesty. A lot of
coaches wouldn't, but he he kind of admitted, yeah, there's
a scenario where he's not even ready for Week one,

(06:13):
one of their best players.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
And the honesty goes a long way with us. Ultimately
what matters is Jalen Johnson's health, which is kinda have
a significant impact on the bears outlook this season. But
you can kind of go through the injury discussion things
a couple of different ways, and you know, there's there's
a coach when we get to you know, the on
the on the other sides of the of the conference

(06:35):
here some coaches who are very restrictive with regards to
how much they'll even have discussion about injuries. It doesn't
change how much how much time it's gonna take for
the player to recover anyway, Like, it doesn't do anything.
So I don't somebody's gonna have to explain that to
me why they they're so restrictive on that.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
But I like it.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
It gives us a chance to learn more about the
team and the Bears Jalen Johnson desperately, right.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
I think they're gonna be leading their defense, which is
leading the team with their secondary. And Jalen Johnson got
that huge contract for a reason.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
All Right, we went long on the.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Bears, let's go short on the Lions, who I don't
have a ton more to say about. After their preseason
game the other day, Taylor Decker, who's been out at
left tackle for them, is back in as of Monday,
so that's good news. Alex Angeloni got one of the
smallest contract adjustments I've ever seen, which I wish more
for him, but he got a two hundred and fifty

(07:33):
thousand dollars bump in his salary plus incentives. So if
you were keeping track of that situation, which was not
a hold in, but the fans wanted more money for Angeloni,
he got a very small bump. They also announced that
Hennon Hooker is going to start the second preseason game,
so they are conducting a backup battle between him and
Kyle Allen. Neither one looked great in the Hall of

(07:54):
Fame game.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Here. Here's a secret.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Whatever one team plays bad in one preseason game, they're
always great in the next one.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Okay, and vice versa.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
I feel like you could do well just knowing that
whenever you have a terrible preseason game, they always play
hard the next game. Because I think a lot about
the preseason is sort of just like that little extra motivation.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Well, I need it.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
I need it for the Lions here, because the entire pregame,
we did an hour of pregame before that on game
day kickoff, and it was Hindon Hooker's going to start,
Hndon Hooker's going to start, and then Kyle Allen comes
out there and throws lollipop balls to the sideline.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Oh, Bobby looked okay.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
And by the time Hindon Hooker comes in, the game
is over. Dan Campbell is so frustrated they pound the
rock just to get out of Canton. And so I'm
glad to see an opportunity for Hindon Hooker to play
in more real game situation.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, and I'm really excited to see Isaac Dasla and yes,
their seventh round pick, what was his name, Dominic Lovett,
who also looks pretty good.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
So they found some more young weapon. Isaac Tuslaw leapt
off the screen. I need more.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yes, if you want to go back and want I
know Lions fans is tough. You may not want to
relive that. Watch all of all four of Tesla's tart.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
If he was a car like his zero to sixty
when he got the ball in the sand was insane.
Let's also talk about the Minnesota Fikings. JJ McCarthy, The
reports out of camp more down than up. This week
in pads doesn't have Justin Jefferson out there. Has to
play this defense every day, which is not taking it

(09:19):
easy on them. They send everything at JJ McCarthy, so
I think that should be kept in mind. A master's
level defense, according to Josh mattelis like in their third year,
but overall the offense reportedly struggling. One big time positive though,
as Christian Darisaw is now slowly working his way back

(09:40):
into team drills, not even taking all the team drills.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
But if you remember, they're all pro.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Left tackle who got hurt in October last year at
a game I attended, sounds like he's on track to
me for week one. If you're hitting a little bit
of team drills in early August, that sounds very positive.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
It's always for the best and the injury updates from
camp Again, some teams more revealing than others.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
I think the Vikings are in a.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Good spot well, and they close off the access to
the media at some point. The fans have already gotten
shut off in like half the teams in the league.
I see you out there, NFL teams who used to
keep it wide open into into mid to late August
and now like, you know, the Browns are done today.
The Rams state they have like some situation with coaches,

(10:26):
you know the where they're at, but they're they're done.
A lot of the teams actually ended over the weekend.
You should allow the fans to watch a little more
in the media. Anywhere are you gonna get to watch.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Like you don't have to burn vet minutes like tackling
or anything like that. Like have have the third stringers
that go out there do some one on ones, get
the crowd riled up, like that's that's.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Well, we'll be at a Saints practice later this week
that uh no, fans will be at that, so well,
we're gonna have exclusive news. A couple other items I
listened to Purple Daily. They were saying, Jalen Naylor, you know,
he's a good three that like is a little overmatched
as a as a two. And I don't know if
any of the secondary receivers have really stepped up. They
have a third round pick, Ty Felton who's had a

(11:07):
lot of drops. And then part of it is just
their backup quarterbacks. They might be looking for another backup
quarterback because Sam Howell and Brett Rippen. It just reported
it's just really not going well even when they have
open receivers. So just a team, I think to maybe
watch lighton camp to pick up a veteran from somewhere.
If you remember, like four years ago, they had the

(11:29):
exact same circumstance where it was Kellen Mond and someone
else but basically their backup quarterback was and then they
traded for Nick Mullins right before the season, where Kevin
O'Connor was like, this is not gonna fly. We need
to find a new quarterback, and they did at the
end of camp. I also think it's really interesting Jeff Okuda.
It sounds like he's having a really good camp and

(11:51):
he's locked in as they're outside cornerback twenty six years old,
number three overall pick still has a chance to revive
his career on one of the best defenses.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Always always bet on talent.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
It helps to be on a on a team like
we said, that's right defensively masters level where you're you
don't have to worry about where somebody else is going
to be. You can literally just focus on.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Or you're the eleventh best player on the starting defense
and they and they target you a lot.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
So we'll see.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Let's wrap up the NFC North with the Packers. They
had their family night. I mean, that's a team that
does it right. You know that they've been doing this
for decades. Everyone gets in the stadium. It's fantastic. I
thought it was interesting Jayden Reid only had ten snaps
all night, and it was they were all in the
slot and it might have been something where he's been

(12:38):
a little in and out of the lineup and they're
just managing, you know, his his snaps. But Matthew Golden
on the outside most snaps on the team. The drum
beat all camp is he's getting the most amount of
targets at It's actually been a very quiet week for
Jayden Reid and Matthew Golden so far looks like, you know,

(12:58):
he might be that volume type of I don't want
to draw too much. Jayde Reid's regular season play is
more important than what we've seen, but they might see
him more as like a true slot.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
And the things that Jayden Reid does. I don't know
that you want to necessarily index very highly on those
types of plays in camp, especially when you want Matthew
Golden to get reps if he's going to be the
volume target guy and again like the volume actual route
concept target guy because Jayden Reid's not all of those
targets are what we would like have Jordan Love going

(13:27):
through a full progression, like we're just getting Jayden Reid
the ball versus where Golden you want in a more traditional.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Sense, their first round pick from a year ago is
an offensive lineman by the name of Jordan Morgan, who
right now, if you're looking at the starting lineup, is
not going to start. Is going to kind of be
a versatile guy who can play a lot of different positions,
but a swing guy off the bench. Right now, he's
playing a little left tackle because Rishard Walker is hurt.
D'antavian Wicks has also been out of practice, and he's

(13:55):
going to have a big role. And then looking for standouts,
a lot of people like think there that's covering the team,
that the cornerbacks have been really good. There was maybe
a question going into camp how this group was gonna look,
but they think Nate Hobbs has added a lot Keishawn Nixon,
Carrington Valentine that actually those three have really solidified themselves.
They're playing well. And then this is this is what
Family Knight's all about Patrick. I believe a safety by

(14:18):
the name of Omar Brown with three picks going to
try to make a team change his life. And I
read a great article about like different packers who like
had their night, their coming out party on Family Night
and then parlay that into really good careers. Tremont Williams says,
Family Knight like may really helped make him Sam Shields

(14:39):
like first got noticed. Sometimes it's these these younger defensive backs.
So shout out Omer Brown, Omar Brown.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
All right, Omar Brown, Family Knight gonna put a pin
in it, and maybe we'll look back and be like
he's the latest and the pantheon of Family Night heroes.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
I want you to pick which division of yours you
go first.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Well, because I wanted to complain of coach forthcomingness, Let's
go with the NFC.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Let's go with the NFC East.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Okay, all right, We'll start with the New York Giants,
who have an opportunity for the Battle of New York
versus New Jersey Saturday, August ninth. They're going to Orchard
Park to take on the Bills. Cam Scattabo is working
back from an issue with something. According to Brian Day
Ball team reporters have noted it's a leg injury. Scatterbo

(15:24):
of course runs kind of violently. He left the field
very frustrated. I think they're playing it safe. When asked
what they are going to do in terms of starters
in the preseason, Dave Ball said, we'll do what we
believe is best.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
I mean, come on again. Plus, like the reporters are
out there, they see it.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Scattaboo, I think missed a handful of days and then
he came back in and then left right away.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
So that's a little concerning.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Little concerning Maliku Neighbors did have that shoulder injury last week.
I think we briefly hit on was able to practice
over the weekend, So big sigh of relief on that.
Jalen Hyatt claims he's sixteen pounds heavier than the way
that he played at last year. It's a lot, and
I know, like the off season physique updates. You know,
I'm on record as saying that those are super overrated.

(16:07):
Sixteen pounds is a lot for a dude who says
he played at one seventy two last year. So I'm
interested to see when we get this preseason game the
NNGS date on Jayden Hyatt in his speed Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
I saw a quote from Brian Burns this last week
that stuck out to me, and this is just continuing
a trend of that. Abdull Carter has just been, yeah,
looking insanely good. And Brian Burns was asked about it and
he's like I said, He's like, this is a watered
down statement, But he's a dog, you know. I don't
have to really talk too much about him, like y'all
have seen it, and based on the Giants reporters that

(16:45):
are there, I think the only question is like, is
he the you know, best player on the team?

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Is he the second? Like you're not gonna You're not
gonna put him.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Over Texter Lawrence and Molik Neighbors until he actually plays. Yeah,
but yeah, I was listening to this podcast Giant Station.
It's like he's already right up there, and so I
am really excited to see.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Abdul Karter and over on the other side, a more
disappointing draft pick, Evan Neil getting work at guard at
the moment, still trying to scratch and claw his way
into relevance. Let's go over to the Super Bowl Champions.
By the way, defensive coordinator some of you may know
is Vic Fangio. We've got some Fangio hits. Yeah, from

(17:26):
his newser Jordan Davis another weight loss update, loss some weight.
It's helping him get lower in his rushes. Fangio would
like him to play at more six', Two AND i
just think he means his pad level he would like
to be. Lower he doesn't Want Jordan davis to actually
become a, shorter smaller. Person he would just like him
to get. Lower the thing THAT i noted From fangio's

(17:47):
availability Is.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Vic is He's.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Vic, yes he's not Gonna he's not gonna give you
a whole lot of effusive. Praise and so when he
said That Jahad campbell is making strides every day and
if he keeps making those, strads he'll be the player
The eagles thought he can be considering like the thing
that he's said About Adri jackson is, yeah we're gonna
find out who he is one way or. Another, ESSENTIALLY

(18:11):
i don't want.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Him.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah we talked about that With Bo wolf And Zach
bourbon last.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Week that's.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Great dave Z angarl OF Nbc phillies keeping the score
at corners Opposite Quinnon. Mitchell five days For Dori jackson
with the ones and four days For Keeley.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Ringo, okay going back and, forth so they're.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
They're Alternating Za. BOND Aj brown second straight. Practice he
Missed lewis Scene, Montreal johnson And Trevor keegan all missed
practice On. Monday it's more of a super precautionary thing
FOR Aj brown at this, point like why are we
Running Aj brown in the ground In? August WHICH i
agree with in his, Absence Davonte smith Was Devonte, smith

(18:49):
which is.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
And he's back too after missing three or.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
FOURTIES i know it's always tricky to know which injuries
to put much stock into her which player like looking?
Better LIKE i felt bad that we mentioned how Ad
mitchell had a really bad first week with The, colts
because then the second week supposedly he's just been like
lighting it.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Up and that's what. Happens it's. FOOTBALL i.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Had the last last Thing i'll say on The eagles
is Just Cooper desen playing at safety seems like it's
a permanent thing, now not that he's changing, positions but
in order to keep him on the field at all
time THAT i think he's right now their second safety
when they only have four defensive backs on the, field
so he'll be where he was in the. Slot but

(19:30):
it sounds like he's going to play a lot of,
safety which is which is.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Interesting we'll see and not a commentary on his ability
to play a corner as was happening during the. Draft
it's just an opportunity to get you, right and.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
It's pretty rare that only four defensive backs are going
to be on the field, anyways but it's just making
sure that he never leaves the.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Field let's go continue THE dB discussion with The Dallas.
Cowboys i'm sure there's the issue that we will, discuss
but there was we talked about it before the. Pod
Chavon ravel's father was on the podcast noted use the phrase.
Setback Chavon revel had surgery in the doctors sent a
note pre draft that said the surgery was four months,

(20:08):
ago so it's either that was In, February so it's
Either october Or november of twenty twenty four when he
had his knee. Surgery and so folks are putting a
timeline on this alleged setback at six to eight. Weeks
that gets us closer to one year For Shavon revel's
right recovery from reconstructive knee. Surgery they harvest a piece

(20:28):
of meat from, you they drill a hole through your.
Knee they take the piece of meat and shove it through,
there and then they drill it into the bones on
the other. Side it takes extensive, recovery AND i think
people need to be more aware, that, Yeah Adrian peterson
came back, Fast Stefan dixs has come back.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Fast people aren't.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Automatons despite people accusing me of believing that that's the.
Case these things happen. Differently every knee surgery is. Different
SO i would.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Really got in there with your motions and.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Well, yeah they really got in.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
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Speaker 3 (21:10):
Please do for all of our Six Brian schottenheimmer said
if he had the lift Of list of depth chart
over the, Weekend Jalen tolbert would be the number three wide,
receiver which is Again George pickens has made everything better
because we always talk about dropping everybody down a slot
and asking people to do different. Things required of. Him
jalen told her much better three than he was at,

(21:33):
two And Michael parsons was in a jersey at. Practice
he was initially not in a, jersey and then he
was in a. Jersey Brian schottenhammer says he's not even
preparing for a. Circumstance he's Expecting micah to be available week.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
One it's almost disrespectful how much they've just ignored and
disregarded his trade. Request but, YEAH i don't have anything
really more to say on that that we didn't hit
on our last. Show we'll just have to wait and.
SEE i feel Like Cavante turpin is their real third receiver,
now at least based on the camp reports that they

(22:12):
really are using him a lot more With Brian. Schottenheimer
and maybe that's a camp trope like returner guy becomes
more of the offensive, player but it's obvious how talented he,
is And i've long thought like they should use him,
more AND i really think he's going to be a
real part of this offense this, year AND i think

(22:34):
they could use. It they've Used Nate, thomas by the,
way their seventh round, pick at left, tackle and so
he's Replacing Tyler, guyton he gets the first.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Shot Kyri elam looks locked.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Into that starting, cornerback which is former first round pick
of The, bills which will be.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
A, huge a huge get after the trade considering the
injuries at corner and waiting On diggs to come back
at as well As ravel to get ready on A
noi normal time, Scale we're we're not asking him to
Be wolverine once.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Again, yeah and they they Signed Lael. Collins by the,
way he's. Back he's back over the last. Week they
it sounds, like you, Know Donovan azeraku And Jayden, blue
like any of these, lists AND i look at him
of like the standouts from camp so, far they've all
got As araku the first or early second round pass

(23:25):
rusher atop their, list In Jade blue the running back pretty,
high so they could definitely use a nice rookie. Class
and then like they're they're off ball linebacker. Group it
could be viewed as as a. Weakness Kenneth. Murray they
they brought in And maris.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
It's historically a weakness in the past seven.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Years it's getting a lot of, pop a lot Of
Marist leaf. Pop so maybe he's the guy and.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
We'll, see because they got work with The rams coming
up To martin and so if any team is going
to put those cats to, Work i'll be coach McVeigh
and Whichever rams make it to the. Field Washington commanders
are working left tackle first round Pick Josh connery on
the left and right. Side if that concerns you About Laramie,
tunsel don't don't. Really connorly played at left in, college

(24:12):
and you Know laramie takes the vet. Days there was
injury concern For deebo's finger over the. Weekend Deebo samuel
eventually came back to. Practice of, course the question is
About terry, McLaurin still waiting to figure, out you, know
if The commanders are going to make the one of
the best players on the team an offer to continue

(24:33):
to catch footballs for.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Their everything seems so kosher there, though he's like signing
for fans every day and talking to everyone.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
He need him to appear to be.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
More, no, no, no it just seemed to me this just
seems like everyone knows that it's going to get, done
hopefully sooner than, later but it just seems like it's
why not have?

Speaker 2 (24:54):
It, YEAH i don't know. That it's my.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Question in all of these contract, situations including Uh micah's
and And terry, mclaurin's has the team made an? Offer
has the team provided, it got paper with numbers on
it and given it to?

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Them, well according To Michael, barsons, no so, ACCORDION i
don't know about The terry McLaurin. ONE i have to
assume yes because it would be insane OTHERWISE.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
I don't know they need. HIM i don't know why
that's not the very first.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Thing Wat why isn't that happening way? Earlier they need
them because.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
That's the only part of the, Process, like, no it's
literally the only. Part and we.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Always there's always this discussion about how difficult it is
to get deals.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Done have you done that? Part the offer offering of the?

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Deal to offer the deal and then the other person
decides whether or not they want to accept the deal or,
Not and there's always.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
This, oh there's this difficulty.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Negotiation we don't well offer the deal and then they
can say yes or.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
No right and then and when they say yes or,
no if they say, no they can do after you
offer the, deal they can send a.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
COUNTEROFFER i we're doing this just saying we are going
to revolutionize this, thing and then people are going to
give us three percent of their lifetime earnings on only
half for three.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
YEARS i do love an anti agent rant From Patrick.
Claybond no one is more anti, agent not just for the,
players but for the broadcasting community as.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
WELL i do love a. Name they're never going to
be blowing my phone. Up so.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
It sounds like they're Using debot more like in a
kind of just like receiver role instead of all the
crazy stuff that he used to because they kind of
need that like after him right. Now Jalen lane third
round pick is their starter in the, slot and that reminded, me,
like didn't they just draft a guy in the slot
last year High AND i was.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Uh they Drafted luke, McCaffrey who had like family connections
to the forty nine ers and all. This you, Know
Adam peters who comes from, there AND i think he's
having a hard time making an impact and at this
point has not had a lot of returns on the
investment that they gave. Him kJ osborne is, there by the,

(27:12):
way AND i have an, update by the way on
if we have a guy that we're rooting for and
want to watch in the. Preseason it's Definitely jacorey Krossky.
MERRITT i mentioned that last week The commander's running. Back
he goes by the Name Bill Bill. MERRITT i mean
his name Is jacorey Krossky, merritt and he runs like
a young More East Jones drew or. Something but he

(27:34):
goes By. Bill Bill merritt is a buick. DEALER i
think it's JUST i don't know if it's Just, bill
but Just. Bill he says he's had that name since
he was like a. Kid his parents didn't give it to.
It it was like an inside joke that has just
got and he says he loves. It the fans are
all calling Him, bill so shout out To. Bill it,
seems by the, way like the stadium AT, rfk WHICH

(27:56):
i know had gotten tangled up in the, name and
some political, maneuvering like a vote happened late last. Week it's.
Happening there's like another vote On september. Seventeenth But John,
kim who's covered their team forever over thirty years now
he's with THE. Espn he said the equivalent the last
vote is just like. Procedural he, said it'd be like

(28:16):
the opponent's throwing a Hail mary from the opposing five
with one play. Left so he says this STADIUM rfk
site it is, happening which is which pretty.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Cool over a decade in the, making right longer.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
And usually you get a Super, Bowl so maybe we'll
be doing A Super bowl there at some. Point let's
take a quick. Break we have some very exciting news
on the other. Side in addition to takeaways for eight
MORE nfc teams back ON Nfl, Daily want our mind,

(28:58):
Everyone forties And Free agents is coming. Back who my
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feeds On. Tuesday that first one back will be in
THE Nfl daily. Feed but we're asking a. Favor go
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To forties And Free agents as a separate. Podcast we're

(29:21):
gonna have a separate feed for it so you don't have,
to you, know keep getting it pushed multiple, times maybe
into your.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Time it is a premium, Service, yeah it is being
offered to you brief.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Charge grattis just. It it's complimentary and it's really.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Good this first Episode we're going to talk about THE Nfc,
west the best rookies and the, pickups and it was
a fun show With daniel AND. I so stay tuned for,
that and then stay tuned for the very end of the.
Show i've got an update on the Claybonn Fan. Club
there were so many, opinions so many votes are out.

(29:56):
THERE i Got Robert, mays the host Of The Great
Athletic Football, show is in my mentions looking for clues
believing that the clay Bonnie. Vers maybe one BECAUSE i
used Bonnie vere as my song On.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
INSTAGRAM i can now.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
He's accusing you of electoral.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Melfisons, no, no, NO i think he was saying it
was almost like a tease that the clay Bonnie vers
won the fabite Claybon Fan club, competition AND i use that.
MUSIC i can actually announce here even before the end
of the, show will not be the klay Bonni.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Vere, oh it was Not claude to the. Top it
was a lot of voting with the alt. Accounts but WE,
i WE, I.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Let's do THE Nfc. West let's talk a little bit
about the. RAMS i am officially worried About Matthew stafford
part of the Reason i'm worried About Matthew stafford is
nobody else seems to be worried About Matthew. Stafford he's
he's thirty seven years. Old he's got an injury That
sean McVay described in a way that made me feel uncomfortable.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Throwing it's some of the unloaded running on the. Treadmill
sometimes it's might even be. Walking he's able to do
a little bit of you, know lighter cardio and able
to do some good core, work but it's more just functional,
strength surrounding the area while making sure that you don't
do anything to set yourself back based on the trajectory
that he's. Doing but we are looking forward to getting
him and easing him back into, football you, know, hopefully you,

(31:22):
know in the in the near.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Future the look on your face while he's saying, that
knowing what he's going to, say it pains to hear
About stafford's recovery.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Routine maybe it's Maybe i'm. Overreacting you tell, me the
question was what Is stafford doing this? Week and when
he gets into, like, well he's, walking doing a little
bit of, walking and pretty soon we'll be able to
get into a little. CARDIO i, like he can't even
get out there and play a little doubles.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
TENNIS i Know stafford used to be a big time
like it.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Just seems like he's a little ways away here from
doing getting anywhere.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Close, WELL i like that the general, REACTION i understand
yourk and, YEAH i like that the general reaction has
been muted because the last THING i want Is sean
McVay to retreat to the Well. Matthew matthew has a
back and he's worked there to get. Back he's giving us,
details specifically on the types of things he's, doing AND
i think within those details notes the abundance of concern

(32:19):
with the Both matthew and The rams are taking with
regards to his, recovery and perhaps the ability to do
this little amount of physical work was a part of
the deal that Got Matthew stafford back to The rams
in the First, well that's.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
WHAT i, Thought but WHEN i hear, THIS i realize
it's more he wants to be getting ready for this
season and his body is not allowing him to at this.
Point and, Yes i'm sure they are being as careful
as can, be maybe extra careful because of the time of,
year and yet he's a thirty seven year old with

(32:55):
back issues that's struggling to get on the field right.
Now AND i just think as optimistic as they project
to be About Jimmy, garoppolo AND i really believe that
they believe. It they THINK i think they Love Jimmy,
Garoppolo i'm. NOT i think it all kind of falls
apart Without Matthew stafford and So i'm worried for The
rams fans in my. Family but, well but we'll. SEE

(33:17):
i asked a gentleman who was on the show just last, WEEK. Jb,
long who's been there At rams practice every day for some,
takeaways because BECAUSE i haven't been, there because you, have
he's our, correspondent he's our. CORRESPONDENT a couple of the
items he, thinks you Know pooka this, year just keep
an eye and his red zone production always been. Elite

(33:40):
pooka not as much in the red, zone not as
much scoring. Touchdowns believes there's been a real focus on
that and that he's been outstanding and racking up some,
NUMBERS i. Believe and you just think About Devanta, adams
who's one of the, best you, know red zone receivers
of his generation and the two of those guys To

(34:00):
so that's just something that to keep an eye on
Of Like, puka he can look he can also run
the ball a little bit if if you wanted to
near the goal.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Line so that's something to.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Watch it's Interesting Nate, landman who is a free agent pick.
UP a lot of the fans that have been out
there and the media covering, noted you, know he's really looked.
Good he's made a lot of. Plays McVay has been
asked about. Him so this isn't just FROM, jb BUT
jb noted he quickly got the green, dot like immediately
they decided he's going to be the play. Caller so
he's going to be an important guy for. Them And
Omar speatetz was a guy who last year came in

(34:29):
THE pff wise like was graded pretty. HIGHLY i think
The rams probably internally maybe are a little more optimistic
about that linebacker group than people on the outside would
be because that's been a problem area for them for.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Years, yeah and again to harp on it one more,
time you, know a significant answer to that linebacker. Position
it's playing At seattle and had a great, season but.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
They Chose omar states over, it they.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
DID i think they would at least say for, us
we're we're happy with where we, are but we'll see what, happened.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Hopefully and again for For davante's, sake It's Matthew, stafford
it's gonna make every it's gonna make everything better if
it's if It's JIMMY. G, again like you, said as
great as they can feel About JIMMY, g there's a
significant fall off From Matthew stafford To James Richard.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Gloppolo, right the backup quarterbacks around the league are not.
Amazing so if you're Comparing JIMMY g to the average
backup and then you adjust for the fact that it's
in A sean McVay offense With davante And, poco, YEAH
i GUESS i can see what you're. Saying but it's
still a dramatic drop, off significant, Right like he, like, maybe,

(35:36):
yeah he's better than the average. BACKUP i could buy,
that BUT i have to see it also some, OPTIMISM i.
Think but the safety, group you, know the, cornerbacks definitely
a question. Mark But Quentin, Lake Cam, Curl Cam kitchens
and Then jayalen mccalloch who had four picks last year,
too like.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
That that's a nice little safety. Group SO i think
some optimism.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
There let's go To seattle where there is optimism On
Charles cross had surgery on his finger and immediately return
to the. Field was supposedly, like, oh he'll be ready
for week. One offensive. LINEMAN nfl, players professional, athletes they're built.
Different he's just already practicing. Again, yeah foret week.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
One, yeah getting getting work on a digit is is,
tough you, know ESPECIALLY i don't know what the grade
of dislocation it, was but anytime.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
They're surgery required Surgery.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
I'm sure it wasn't insignificant. There it's gotta be.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Broken it's it's the same thing LIKE i love rap,
sheet but stop presenting the news as, like, hey great.
News he you, Know Tyler guiden's getting surgery and is
only going to be out six to eight weeks with
a fracture in his. KNEE i mean that's not great, News,
matgine how much that would devastate your entire life a?

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Lot you, know that would be the horrible.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
News and the same thing With Maxwell, harrison the cornerback
for the great, news he's only out like three weeks
with a painful high.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
End it's only great in a relative sense to how
bad the news could. Be like, there obviously everything comes
from the, agents but like when we found Out naji's
i injury was just. Superficial, yeah if something happens to my,
eye it's not just.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Anything, meanwhile there's no time. TABLE i know we're DOING,
nfc But Jim harbad did say this On monday when
we're taking there is zero timetable For Naja harris to.
Return so whatever it, Is i'm a little concerned. About
back to The, Seahawks Sorry. Seahawks two items that have
struck me listening and watching the coverage their number, one

(37:31):
it's a whole lot of sneak dissing on the last
year's offensive coaching, staff just from the offensive line from
the running.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Game everyone know how sneaky it.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Is, yeah just they really believe that coaching is going
to be the difference because.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Talent, wise like you LOST, dk you Lost.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Gino LIKE i know you Added Cooper cup And, darnold
BUT i think you're hoping for that to be a wash,
basically especially The dka To cup thing is obviously not a,
wash BUT i think they really count on, coaching the,
details the. Focus so we'll see if that really improves.
EVERYTHING i think it can help a lot on the
offensive line, specifically and then last thing on The, seahawks
just a lot Of tory Horton Pop Pop day three

(38:11):
draft PICK dj AND i are going to talk about
him on our next, show our first time back with
forties and free. Agents but he was Called Jerry Rice
junior by a teammate on The. SEAHAWKS i think that
was a little bit of an, exaggeration but basically he's
been like, leading lighting it up at. CAMP i think

(38:32):
he's their third. RECEIVER i was, wondering who's going to
be the third. Receiver this is what camp's all. About
we're finding out he really looks like he will be
their third. Receiver maybe not marcz valdis. Scanting think that's good.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
News, Yeah and it ALLOWS mvs to be in HIS mvs.
Role we can See Sam donald flash that, arm you,
know just hit maybe not volume targets FOR. Mvs the
rookie can get the. Work and of COURSE jsn And
Cooper cup will BE jsn And Cooper.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Cup it Was riek willand by the, WAY i wanted
to make sure who called Him Jerry race dream one
of those things where he was, LIKE i think the
next guy on the, podium he's walking by and he's, Like,
oh There's Jerry Rice. JUNIOR i don't know if that's
like catching on or. Anything you, know who could catch
on In? Arizona who's?

Speaker 2 (39:14):
That Marvin Harrison.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
JUNIOR i mean that is an actual junior of A
hall Of famer who has missed some, practice but when
he's been out, there by all, accounts it has been.
Better and him And trey McBride have kind of been
hogging all the. Targets as you would, expect there is
a pretty steep fall off after those. Two i'm a
little concerned about the, falloff but those, Two i'm.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Excited, yeah you would hope That Michael wilson would fall
into that. ROLE i know that they've they've kind of
rotated guys in that number three spot in terms of
who gets the targets. There but, yeah that's that's what you.
Expect and considering the way the middle to late part
of last year, went that's got to be a positive.
Sign if they're force Feeding marv at this.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Point, yeah AND i Want trey McBride fans out there
to go check Out Jordan rodrigg's great feature on. McBride
it really got me thinking about what a difference it
is to have like a top, five top three to
five tight. End it completely changes your. Offense SO i
think that article does a good job pointing that, out

(40:15):
and it made me think those guys are maybe the
most underpaid players in THE. Nfl is an elite tight
end BECAUSE i get why the number six tight end
compared to the number six like wide, receiver it's not
in the same, ballpark but like A George kittle or a,
McBride what they make compared to like the elite wide,

(40:39):
receivers it's like a massive Golf they're like making like,
average you, know number two receiver type, money and they're
just so much more valuable than. That like they're they're
as VALUABLE i think as a number one. Receiver just
a random.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Thought, Yeah i'm trying to look up the the contracts
for tight, ends but the problem is they have it
ranked by average, salary which is. Fraudulent everybody needs to
doing that because Like Taysom hill will be the number
nine paid tight, end but.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Like McBride got forty three. Guaranteed the extension was you,
know under twenty a. Year even on the extended part
of the, deal that's you, know that's like number two.
Receiver that's like significantly less Than DeVonta smith Or Jalen.
Wattle and those guys are great, players but, man A
George kittle and A. M brian change your entire, office.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Especially in terms of what you're asking them to do
in so many different ways and venues that there's only
so many people on the planet that can do, it
where in other positions it's really more.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Specialized i'm honking too much on random. Stuff this is what.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Happens we put the microphone on AND i just get
totally off.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Target that one guy's Like, Greig my drive is exactly
fifty seven minutes, long and you're still.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Talking another good brand That patrick. Has don't worry about
it being. Shorter Not Trey, benson a lot Of Trey
benson pop although mix mixed. Signals but they say he's
a different player this. Year Garrett, williams who is there good.
Nickelback they're using them more on the outside to keep
him on the, field kind Of cooper To jane. Style
they want to make Sure he's never off the field for,
Them Garrett, williams so that's kind of new for. Him

(42:07):
The cardinals website had a good feature On Paris, johnson
just someone we never mentioned on the. Show but if
you were looking for like a surprise all pro and
that that would mean like one of the very best
tackles in the. LEAGUE i Think Paris johnson is on that,
list maybe trying to get to that elite. Status and
Then Will johnson with a pick Of Kyler murray and
their scrimmage the other day was supposedly an eye popping.

(42:30):
Pick So Will johnson looks like he's gonna start for.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Them, yes after the, slide Huge Will johnson Guarr, yes it.
Complete the slide completely radicalized me For Will.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Johnson love.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
IT i was big on him going into the. Draft
we got the forty nine ers up. Next, Now Juwan
Jenny jennings has aggravated a calf.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
INJURY i, thought this really is an.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Injury but when they Asked Kyle shanahan about, it he,
said you'd have to Ask juwan about. That but he
tells me it's his. Calf you gotta be delicate with those.
Calves so just the tone of voice was a Little
so that actually would be good news for forty nine
ers fans because it would mean that he doesn't have
this recurring calf.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Injury but this is where we're at with these Whole.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Kyle being weird has made the injury situation completely.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Indecipherable the word's got to be delicate with those calves
made me, think, oh maybe it is just just a.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Holding there's been a drum.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Beal he's being completely honest that we have no idea
because It's kyle.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
True, well you do got to be delicate with those.
Guests Ricky piersall reportedly is looking. Better this has been
a lot of the practice. Reports and then we got
an on the ground correspondent report From Jordan rodrieg That
i'm going to quote. Directly, oh she's not happy with
me WHEN i paraphrased some of her quotes the other
day On Trey harris when she had detailed you know

(43:43):
just how special he, Was So i'm going to quote her. Directly,
Ok pearsall is going to be, really really. Good he's
a clear number one to me and a volume player
At monday's, practice extremely strong and physical at the catch,
point quicker off the line of scrimmage THAN i.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Expected won a. Lot love, It, Thanks, JORDAN i mean
that was. Good that's that's effusive. Price i'll buy.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
It like you gotta trust first of, all you gotta
trust what you see when you're. There AND i think
he showed last year like he's AN nfl, player and
he had a lot to, overcome not just the, shooting
but the injuries and learning this.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Offense it's very difficult for a.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Receiver AND i GUESS i kind of Give kyle uh
the benefit of doubt too, that like he is really
good picking out.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Receivers SO i could see a huge second year.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
League, yeah and there was there was a lot going
on between are you in the injury and the holdout
and being. Late, yes of Course ricky had to overcome,
uh you, know the the wound trauma from his from
his gun, shot and he's coming back and playing his rookie.
Season it's a, lot and there was Turmoil debo eventually
was going to get.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Traded there was a.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Lot, happening significantly significantly less happening this, Offseason.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Yes and they need him to show. Out Kevin gibbons
is a defensive tackle for the team that he possibly gonna,
start and he has a pectoral injury that is going
to knock him out into the regular. Season maybe a
big chunk of. It Isaac, garrendo the backup running, back
is going to be out for a few. Weeks i've
noticed a lot of pop On upton stout their rookie.
Nickelback he's sending cutups back and forth to the old

(45:18):
nickelback for. Them Kawan, WILLIAMS i like that when like
ex players Become.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Fritz it's been a lot Of Mac jones, pop Sneaky
Mac jones, pop.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
And they Cut Greg, Joseph SO i Guess Jake moody
is their only kicker on the. Roster But, kyle again being,
weird kind of warn like the kicker battle's not. Over
it's just they have thirteen guys out of practice because
of injuries and five more on. Pop and he said
that is not the. Luxury BUT i think kickers know
that they're battling guys that aren't even, Here so that

(45:46):
he basically was, saying don't get too comfortable with. That all,
right let's go to another. Division by the, way the
last thing That jordan, said WHICH i really, liked kind
of text was that she Watched pearsall's eyes and hands
all practice and he's got quote, it oh end quote.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
Got it locked, In so Does Jordan to focus that
intently on one aspect of practice while also covering the entire.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Practice it's it's a generation's got on. It just get.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
It you, know we're blessed to be associated with The.
South i'll let you pick the team that we start, With,
Greg why don't we do?

Speaker 1 (46:21):
That, WELL i picked the. Team we're going to THE Nfc.
South we save the best for, last AND i think
we start with The.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Saints let's start with The New Orleans saints who have
Seen we'll start with the good. News Blake group made
fifty nine and fifty four yarders over the. Weekend he's
twenty five of twenty six on kIPS on kicks right
now in. Camp, also Kool aid McKinstry has taken every
snap at right, corner and he picked Off Spencer rattler
over the weekend on a great. Play good stuff for

(46:49):
the second year guy out of The university Of. Alabama
they've had guys flash on. Defense over on the offensive,
side it is it's Still rattler And schuck not as Much.
Hayin they're still alternating in terms of the quarterback. Position
they signed chanele Mu, As NICK salvaderi went TO Ir

(47:11):
so it's a.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Guard both of those guys playing the guard.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
Position the shifts up front still kind of working through
the former first round tackles struggles to make a spot
at the guard.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Position Blankingning Trevor penning.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
There it is the draft for need a few years
ago that didn't work out in terms of talent or.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Need the quarterback, battle.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
It just sounds like it's rattler by default right now
that he's done some. Things there's not a lot of
throws down the. Field i've listened To Nick underhill At
New Orleans Dot football And Mike, triplett who are there every,
day and in his, words he says he thought there's
no doubt that he's ahead and that he can just
play in AN nfl, game and That chuck just does

(47:57):
not look ready to play in AN nfl, game which.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Which makes sense because despite Of Tyler shuck's advanced, age
WHICH i mean it's three und sixty five days for,
everybody the actual play experience in college really didn't add
up to that. MUCH i believe it's less than thirty total.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Starts they might have had more plays in their scrimmage
On sunday than he had in his entire. Career they
played in one hundred and twenty six plays in their,
scrimmage which is out. Rate that's an outrageously long scrimmage
where they did full drives and yet as you, mentioned
it was Mostly chuck And rattler with the starting, team

(48:35):
and how they described it, Was, yeah the offense was
struggling in, general But shuck's bad plays looked, catastrophic look,
panicked looked, like, Hey i'm just throwing it, blind or
HEY i don't know what's going, on and then not
being totally, ready even though he had actually apparently like
a long touchdown drive where he did some good, things
but he just isn't pushing the ball down the field at,

(48:57):
all and the bad plays are extra, bad and so we'll.
SEE i think they're a really interesting team to watch
in the, preseason and.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Again a lot of that is that give it, take
because like the defensive gas flashing THAT i was talking,
about Like Ugo amati making Plays Alante, taylor especially in
zone coverages in which we talked about last week in
THE nfc was all of These saints defenders saying that
they're able to have more, Freedom they're able to move
around and be more aggressive because it's not as complicated

(49:25):
and they're not as set in the ways of the
twenty twenty For saints. Defense and so that's been a continuing,
theme AND i think that may be a reason because
both of these units are dealing with new, coordinators a
new head. Coach it's an offensive head, coach young. Quarterbacks
these things, do say take some. Time but, again the
outlook for the actual season for The, saints talent, wise roster,

(49:47):
wise it's a little, rough not, great NOT i.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Have some talented, players THOUGH i think they.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Have the thing, is they have a lot more to
me talented players than The, titans for, instance or or
even The.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Browns but they're going to be held. Back all, Right
let's move. On, yeah let's move on to the rival
where The Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Falcons the focus and concern would be with first round
Edge Jalen. Walker his hamstring is causing him to miss some.
Practice they're taking in abundance of. Caution he seems to
be intimating that he's. Fine there's some quotes he, SAID
i have my. Emotions of, Course i'm just getting back
out there as fast as i. Can but they know
what's best for the team and they know what's best for.

(50:26):
Me so it feels Like jalen might want to get
back on the, field get more work and eleven on.
Eleven they have high days and low, days and they're
getting more work For Jalen walker on the low days
and the high days where you know it's more eleven
eleven team, stuff full, pads full, speed not doing as

(50:46):
much right. NOW i feel like that's out of an
abundance of. Caution kayleb, McGarry, congratulations got an extension. Today
he was set to earn a base of fourteen to.
Five don't have the total, numbers But i'm sure he
gets a bump up for this year and they don't
have a tackle problem next. Year and again a reminder
to teams who may have talented players that they would
like to have on the, team you can sign them

(51:07):
a year before their deal is. Up SO calea McGray
gets a new deal for The.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Falcons even just solid to good, starters because you know
what you need in THE, nfl.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Solid to good.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Starters, yeah like you don't wait till the last, minute
or you don't just try to hopefully like replace them
in the. DRAFT i feel like there hasn't been a
ton of buzz Off Michael pennix this. Camp that's not
good or. BAD i think he's by all, accounts played
pretty well down.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
There it's just it's.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
Interesting it's almost like people treating him like a known
commodity when he's totally.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Not but we'll just we'll just.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
SEE i, mean he got thrust in his first few
starts in the heat of a playoff, race and they,
well they came very very. Close we will not see
him Nor Kirk cousins in the, preseason WHICH i would
feel like it's an opportunity to get out there and
Show kirk o change can move and throw the ball
and be, like, hey, team wouldn't you like to Have Kirk.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
COUSINS i, mean in, theory it's risking him getting, hurt
BUT i tend to agree with. You any activity football,
activity including, practice is a risk of getting, hurt and
you have to play football at some.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
POINT i think it'd be okay to Play Kirk cousins
a little in the. Preseason i'm with, you especially for my.
Enjoyment i'm not watching Any falcon give me a.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
Break, well, yeah i'd like to See i'd like to
See mike and some of the young. Guys Ocdavior, watts
the rookie safety out Of Notre, dame make it's a
blazing camp as.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Well feel great about.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
Him over to The Carolina, panthers they had their fan,
evening which was great for almost everybody other Than Ryan.
Fitzgerald the rookie kicker WHO i believe only missed like
two kicks at his entire college, career was one for.
Three he's in a kicking competition With Matthew.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Wright that was.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
Rough we will See bryce and the starters in the preseason.
Opener Let's Go. Steelers according To Dave, canalis.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Help out THE nfl network programming.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
All, right they have a center battle right, Now Caid
mays And Austin. Corbett Coach kanalis, said they're just playing this,
out seeing how it. Goes the difference Is Kid mays
is twenty six making three point four million. Dollars Austin
corbett has a five million dollar cap hit and he's.
Thirty SO i have to feel like if that one
continues to be close then they're going to go With

(53:15):
mays in the center. Spot and they signed a Search bar,
Member Chris, barnes over the. Weekend it didn't wale hot
with the Search, bar but he did play for The
cardinals a lot in twenty twenty, three started six.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Games, YEAH i think they're they're settling in on their
cornerback rotation to young player Chow Smith wade is their
their cornerback.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
THREE i think they like their. Cornerbacks you.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Know OBVIOUSLY Jc horn And Mike jackson they brought back
like more than maybe the outside. Does mike cad does
a good job covering them for The Charlotte, Observers and
he said the other day he Thinks Jadavian sanders might
be YOUR mvp of training camp so, far second year tight.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
End so that's a name to.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Watch you'd have to be a deep fantasy, leaguer but a,
talented talented young, man so something to.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
Watch big, physical he has the physical traits to you,
know if he's able to put, it put it all,
together go into that. ECHELON i not calling Him George
kevil to tradeing broad, now but just in terms of physical,
stature he could do.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
It And Tommy trumple was the, starter but he's, hurt
so it might be one of those situations you don't
get your starting job. Back by the, way It's tetuoa
McMillan or t. Mac but he has laid it. Out
he does not want to be called tet like, specifically
don't call him.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Tet his mom doesn't want, it and that's the. Priority
she was in.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
The audience when when they asked him about it, too
and he deferred to her and, like that's his. Name
that's the NAME i gave. Him Was teturoo Wasn't it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
TEED i appreciate. It if you want to go t,
mac that's, cool, yeah BUT.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
I appreciate it going directly to the source on. THAT
i just wanted to the original, source, like, hey, mom
you take.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Care he.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Deferred she was sitting in the. Crouch he let her,
answer all, right let's finish with the.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Bucks Todd boles said that he has to consistently remind
himself That Jacob parrish is a. Rookie when asked about his,
growth he said that it's hard to say That Jacob
parrish has grown because of how good he was when
he got. There, Okay So Jacob parrish in the secondary
for The.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Bucks lock it down, there, interesting give me more, position, cornerback, safety, cornerback, Cornerback.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Jacob paris the.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
CORNER i remember back a few years, Ago Matthew stafford
on a follow through hit his thumb on a, helmet
led to the fluffy, helmets not necessarily out of head injury,
prevention just to.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Prevent the quarterback from hurting.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
Himself baker's injury also came on a follow through where
he hit a shoulder. Pad kind of day to day with,
that not a lot of.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Concern he's been out of practice, yet that doesn't sound
like it's a Big, yeah just precautionary.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
Stuff and, yeah the rookies that we discussed last week
for The bucks still lighten it, up still feel great about.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
It, yeah this will be the LAST Nfc takeaways with
this format because in the the following weeks we're going
to be doing preseason game. Takeaways in any notes from
the week we can kind of kind of throw in.
There but, yeah we're just losing ways to come up
with positives to talk about With Amika. BUCA i, Mean,

(56:15):
scott here's, another here's one for. You Scott, reynolds who
covers them For Pewter, Report let's cover them the whole.
Time he, says the best rookie that he's seen in
a rookie training camp in thirty years of covering the.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Team that's effusive and he's.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
There it's like you have to give if someone's been
there all thirty, years you got to be, LIKE i
can't doubt THAT i haven't been.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
There, yeah that's that's Multiple hall Of, famers he.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Said he said it's the best, camp not saying he
was not saying he's gonna be the best player. Best he,
said it's been the best. Camp so that's that's the
type of love that a booka, gets and it's a
type of love That Patrick claibon gets on this. Show
so last week we'll circle. Back we had a lot
of options to name The Clay bond fan. GROUP i

(57:05):
had some THAT i came up. With we took some
from the, fans and we asked On, instagram where you
can do, polls you know what the favorites. Were the
problem is they only give you the option to go
four at a time On. Instagram SO i do want
to show you the votes and we had two different,

(57:26):
votes And, claymates WHO i believe which WAS i believe
was suggested by one of the, listeners was not even
brought up on the. Show Runaway winner in terms of their,
section just Destroyed Playbond voyage clay Bona. Fides the problem
IS i have to, admit LIKE i kind of forgot.

(57:46):
IT i Saw claymates after the fact THAT i tried
to put the four best in the first grouping and
that was going to be. IT i was just making
some editorial judgment and THEN i was, like, OH i
forgot About.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Claymates that is kind of.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Amazing James co actually reached out and was, like claim is,
amazing AND i was, like, oh we got to make
Sure claymates is in. There and SO i think the
deck was kind of stacked For claymates to. Win and
so that's Why i'm not taking this as a final.
Result let's go to the next the next, voting and
this one was closer between the Clay Bon, bonds the

(58:19):
Clay Bon, Vivans Pat's, pack and the clay Bonn evers
and very evenly distributed in terms of the, votes but
ultimately the Clay Bon bonds.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Won among these four with thirty nine percent of the.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Vote pat's pack Who Jordan rodrieg suggested grade one twenty four. Percent,
yeah this was this was a barn. Burner yeah, YEAH
i think these were the better ones in. General and
SO i think we need to have a you, know
rundowt what do they call?

Speaker 2 (58:48):
It a?

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Runoff need we need to have the Clay Bon bonds
versus The claymates in one final vote to make it,
clear because the WAY i set it, up it didn't seem.
Fair Maybe claymates will still, win but it didn't seem
fair that they got this easy. Draw and that's why
all the votes don't count the.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Same and so.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
It's tough BECAUSE, i despite the fact THAT i have
so many alt, ACCOUNTS i can only log in that
you get rate limited if you oh, wow The instagram
service too much to log on on all to, Accounts
SO i can only vote.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
So much and you know, times and then if you're,
watching and if you've already turned, OFF i would totally,
Understand but if you're if you're deeply invested in, this
uh Like rosser may like. Myself you, know we had
a graphic initially and this Got eric really fired up
because he put all the votes up all, together AND
i just thought that would be. Unfair and that's on

(59:39):
me as a host for not spelling.

Speaker 6 (59:41):
Out but you WERE i did exactly what you, Said,
hey can you put this on a? Graphic AND i
put the numbers and the words on a, graphic.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
And it JUST i just thought it was misleading because
it looked like they were all against each. Other but
it was kind of like one was in THE afc
and one was THE. Nfc The eagles didn't get to
have a lead in The Super bowl because they scored
more in THE Nfc, championshi.

Speaker 6 (01:00:00):
Great the CONVERSATION i have before we start recording AND,
i you, know and then you totally send this to
the graphics apartment next, time not your.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Producer things like on the half to The Super, bowl
The eagles didn't play The, Jags like all these things.
Happen like the graphic does indicate how many people in
a particular, Opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Yeah voted for a Particular climate's got more than one
hundred votes more than Clay Bon, bond's so maybe they
are the. FAVORITES i only bring this up Because Eric
roberts is one of the coolest most collected producers ever
ever known to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Man one of his great.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Traits and WHEN i WHEN i mentioned this thing about the,
GRAPHIC i, mean he got fired.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Up it's the little things that set me. Off. Greg
he was mad at. Me, well, yeah because he felt
like he.

Speaker 6 (01:00:46):
Executed can we have these made into a? Graphic? Yeah,
sure or just fly them?

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Up?

Speaker 6 (01:00:53):
Yeah because this you, know those screenshots look.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
AMAZING i, MEAN.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
I know now What Eric roberts is like when When
Michael conforto strikes out for like the third time with
the men in scoring position late in the. Eighth so,
yeah we're gonna have to bring the, vote move it
forward in one final.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
RUNOFF i cannot believe anybody is partaking in, this but thank.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
You it's democracy not you, know it's not getting respected,
everywhere but we're into it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Here so we will put up that. Vote i'll put
it up.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Tonight this process is more democratic than. Anything, Monday monday,
night we're putting that vote Up. Tuesday very. Excited AS i,
mentioned we're coming. Back Daniel jeremiah AND i again subscribe
The forties And Free agents and then our next show
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know Clay bon. Bonds we're.

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