December 5, 2025 • 36 mins
The Dallas Cowboys came into Detroit in desperate need of a victory, but Jahmyr Gibbs and the Lions had other plans. Detroit, Sonic and Knuckles steamrolled the Cowboys in a 44-30 winning effort to keep the Lions' playoff dreams alive, and effectively killing their counterpart's. Gregg Rosenthal and Nick Shook handle recap duties for Week 14's Thursday Night Football, before discussing Shook's W14 QB Index.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Team golf up under center, single back Gibs. They give
to Jamir, run it outside, got a block or down
it a ten.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
To the five to the end zone.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Wave to him. He's gone baby. Touchdown.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Detroit Lions Tristan Cologne with a nice block to help
springing thirteen yards and the Lions can double up their
league with the extra point.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
If it's a Lions game.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Jamir Gibbs is doing something incredible. Yes, that was the
final goal of his hat trick tonight.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
That was Dan Miller on w x y T.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
We're gonna be hearing a lot from Dan Miller, one
of the best in the business.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Like Jamir Gibbs.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
He gets those three touchdowns on the ground as part
of a forty four to thirty victory over the Dallas Cowboys.
We were so excited, Shooky for a great Thursday night matchup,
and what we got was a great win for the
Lions where they controlled the action. Old school Lions, and
(00:57):
by old school I mean the last couple of years
and really dominated this Cowboys defense defensively, put them in
their place and knock that Cowboys playoff chances down to
the single digits.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, And what's crazy is you know, I look at
the numbers real quick, and I'm thinking the Lions had
to be close to five hundred yards of offense. Nope,
just four hundred and eight. They actually got out gain
didn't look like it on the field, because, like you said,
they controlled the game. This was it was one of
those games where you've watched the Lions recently, you wonder, like,
where are the Lions as we've known them over the
last couple of years, And they've had absences. They haven't
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had Amen ra Saint Brown for a while, they don't
have Sam Laporta, so it kind of makes sense by
you know, the passing game hasn't been as good as
you would expect. The offensive line hasn't been at full strength,
so much that Frank Ragnow tried to come out of
retirement and then couldn't pass as physical. And yet now
tonight they finally kind of put it all together against
the defense that you would think maybe a month ago
that they should have done this, but this Cowboys defense
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has been getting better. So it is in fact a
statement win for the Lions because they needed to state
that the rest of the NFL that they're not just
going to fade into the Abyss. They're not just going
to let this season and go away. They're going to
fight all the way to the end. And they got
a huge victory in a big spot.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
I think that's really well said. And when I was
thinking about this game ahead of time, I was thinking, Okay,
this Cowboys team, they're kind of like they're an upstart. Literally,
it's a bunch of guys on the defense that just
either got healthy or joined the team in the case
of you know, Quinn Williams and Geneveon Clowney or the
rookie revel who got picked on a little bit tonight
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for the Cowboys, or a lot And I thought, Okay,
I know the Lions have a lot of things going
against it, but maybe it's a day for these guys
who have been in this same system to step up
and be like not on our watch, at least not
this week.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
And you really saw that.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
You saw Jared Goff, I think, have a really good
game against pressure. Overall, there was a throw and we've
got this if you're watching on YouTube, that Jared Goff
made to Jamison Williams on a crosser in the fourth quarter.
So to set it up at one point was twenty
seven to nine. The Cowboys come all the way back
(03:04):
to make it thirty to twenty seven. It's a third
and six with about eight and a half minutes left
in the game, and there is immediate pressure up the
middle on Jared Goff and he has to throw that
thing almost without seeing it total trust gets hit. They
end up calling a penalty because he got hit in
the face. Right afterwards, beautiful ball where he leaves Jamison
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Williams on the catch, and they end up going to
score in that drive. If they don't convert that play, shook,
it's Cowboys ball. They're down three, and at some point
in this game, the Cowboys offense basically figured out whatever
the Lions defense was gonna do, and they were going
up and down the field. The only reason they didn't
score forty is because they turned the ball over three
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times tonight. That was the difference in this game. And
so there were a few different moments like that where
I thought the old guard of the Detroit Lions, and yes,
Jamison Williams is old guard.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Now he signed a second contract.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
You know it's golf and Montgomery and Gibbs, and yes,
I'm on Ross saying and I thought that was a
massive moment in this game and a great night for
Jared Goff.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I'm so glad you highlight of that, because that wasn't
the only time GoF did that. In the fourth quarter.
He had pressure in his face multiple times, which in
previous weeks has been kind of the explanation for why
their offense has just not been as productive as you
would expect them to be. It was all over him
again tonight, and there were moments where again he's throwing
dirt balls where he's just trying to get rid of
the ball, where he doesn't look comfortable, but eventually he
adjusted it and in the biggest spots he was delivering
throws under pressure. There was another similar throw like that
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where he's got a man in his face almost instantly
and I'm thinking, there's no way that ball gets to him,
and I think it was to Williams again near the sticks,
where it was another really impressive play. And once those happened,
I realized, Oh, the Lions are going to overcome this.
They're not going to fold in this situation because Goff's
making those throws which we've seen in recent weeks. I
can't remember exactly who the opponent was where oh it
was the Eagles game where he looked completely lost, like
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that defense I absolutely broke his brain. It did not.
His brain was not broken. Tonight he stepped up in
a in a big way.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
I love the way you put that, and I think
he's been up for the challenge the last two weeks.
Their defense really hasn't. Brian Branch was carted off tonight,
and you have to give the Lions defense credit for
making a few big plays. Jack Campbell forces the fumble
at one point he looked like he had a safety
as well, and then they get another big interception of
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Dak Prescott to start the second half, which came on
a slant to George Pickens where the ball gets broken up.
But yeah, it's about the old guard, and when I
think old guard of the Lions, it's about that running
back David Montgomery, who is not getting nearly as much
playing time rightfully, Dan Campbell play caller. One of the
things he has done has really limited David Montgomery to
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keep Jamir Gibbs on the field. But when they used
Montgomery tonight, he pulled off one of the biggest plays
of the night in the second quarter we're.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Across the front. They bring up Blitz, They hand it
off to Montgomery. Montgomery pickle twenty five yards, still going
at the.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Twenty, cuts it right at the fifteen.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
He's gone baby to the house, Steve owing a touchdown.
Detroit Lions thirty five.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yards, seventeen snaps on the night, only six carries, but yes,
that big touchdown. He also had a good reception on
the night, and so he's one of the guys again
you look to and how about aman Rais Saint Brown.
We thought he was not going to play in this game,
and he ends up with what six catches for ninety
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two yards and kind of the catch that helped put
the game away when the Lions got the ball up
seven late and ended up going in for a touchdown.
That was the Gibbs third touchdown. But they needed points
on that drive. And basically all these guys, you know,
they deliver shook in. Do you think now when you
look at the schedule only four games ahead, you know
(06:39):
they're in a down year and they're eight and five, Like,
where do you think the Lions go from here? Do
you think they could make the playoffs or will make
the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I consider them a playoff team. I think they're strong
enough to be a playoff team. They've weathered a lot
of injuries, but they have delivered in a lot of
these key moments.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
The Packers loss on Thanksgiving was a disappointing result, and
the Eagles game was the most concert one, but there
have been other instances in which they've looked more like
the team that we knew them to be, like when
they blew out the Commanders, you know, in Week ten,
for example. So I think that they're they're in a
position to do it. They do have a bit of
a tough road remaining. They get the Rams in LA
next week, and that's gonna be tough. The Steelers, I
don't know who they are. I think the Lions that
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beat them. They dominate the Vikings even though it's in Minnesota,
because we know the Vikings aren't good, and then it
all comes down to potentially that game in Chicago Week eighteen,
like that could be the deciding factor. But I feel,
and I know it's only one game that it's against
the Cowboys defense that has gotten better in recent weeks,
but it's still the Cowboys defense. I can't tell you
how many times this season, they've watched a receiver running
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a crossing route just run right by Marque's bell. It
happened multiple times tonight again, and like you said, Sharon,
Ravel looked a little lost on the touchdown pass to
Isaac Dislaw on the touchdown run by Jamior Gibbs that
we played to open the show, where you know that
meme of the toddler where like he runs around the
corner and gets scared and he's like kind of wobbling
and runs away. That's what Revel looked like at a
(07:56):
few spots tonight. So, yes, this defense like that they
face is not the strongest and so you take it
with a bit of a grain of salt. But it's
the metal, it's the intestinal fortitude of this team that
has been tested, has been there before. I think they're
going to see it through.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
So this win was so key for a few reasons.
The Cowboys schedule is very favorable down the stretch, and
at six losses they probably have to win out. They're
six six and one. I thought all along that they
are the ultimate eight eight in one team and it'll
be fun to see how they get there, and they
might be headed there. But the schedule sets up in
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a way where you could see them winning now or
certainly winning three of those four. So if they had
got the head to head, and I know they're not
going to end up tying, but if they had won
while the Lions lost, it would have just been brutal
because that would have been another team for the Lions
to pass. But now that they put some distance between
them and the Cowboys, even if they lose to the
Rams next week, you have a really tough Bear schedule,
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and you know that game is sitting there in Week eighteen,
so you could afford to probably lose to the Ram
as long as you don't lose again. If you can
get to week eighteen, that could be the Sunday night.
How about a loser goes home game between them and
the Bears. And I know I'm projecting some Bears losses,
but there will be losses. The Bears, also, by the way,
have a forty nine ers game, and so those are
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two teams that the Lions are trying to chase. One
of them will end up losing that week. We're looking
a little too far ahead. I still want to talk
about this game from the Cowboy side. They were down
twenty seven to nine when Ceedee Lamb left with a
concussion and Ceede Lamb was having a big night over
one hundred yards. Obviously, that's really concerning for them in general.
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Shook with their offense, Like what did you see like
on either side of the ball. That maybe gives you
a little concern that we got over our skis after
those back to back wins against the Eagles and the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Well, I mean, obviously once CD left, it exposed how
I guess rigid they are and where they can go
in the passing game, because we know who Dak is.
He's he played another great game and I know you
had two picks on his ledger and the first pick
that he threw was ugly, but he made some throws
under pressure that were just phenomenal. He's putting balls into
tight windows.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Again.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
He was the reason again that they were in this game.
I am concerned with about their offensive line, which allowed
way too many pressures that you know, missing your starting
left tackle was a just a very visible weakness right
from the beginning, and then you get beat on both
edges on multiple occasions. The pocket integrity was just not
there tonight. Bet worries me as they go forward. You know,
Javonte Williams has had a nice year, a better the
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year than I think most of us expected, but he
is basically their only option in the backfield unless you
go to Malik Davis, who just you know, popped off
a touchdown run last week, but otherwise, you know, he's
very unproven. I just think that they are limited without
CD and Pickens on the field. At the same time,
not to mention the fact that we have this weird
thing going on with their passing game where one week
it's a Pickens week, and one week it's a CD week,
And like, this week's the CD week and Pickens end's
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with five catches for thirty seven yards and essentially disappears.
I know fantasy owners are very upset about it. There
are multiple periods in this game where I'm watching on
Prime Vision they're identifying players and it's Ryan Florinoy, and
it's Cavante Turpin and it's Jonathan Mingo out there, and
I'm like, oh, so we're just rotating all the receivers
right now. I mean, Flamoy, you know, is receiver.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
I think I think Flinoy could be a player. He
ends up with nine for one point fifteen tonight. I
think he moves pretty well. He got a touchdown on
a broken coverage late. That was the play that made
it thirty to twenty seven, and that was a play
where I think Brian Branch actually made a mistake. Brian Branch,
who got hurt and hopefully he can you know it
wasn't as bad as it looked when he got carted off.
(11:34):
Has really been struggling since that suspension. But I think
Flornoy and Turpin are okay as like supplementary receivers. Obviously
they need to get Cede Lamb back on the field,
but they have a lot to like. Of course, on
that side of the ball.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
We know that their secondary is not good. I feel
a lot better about their front seven with the return
of Demarvion Overshown the addition of Quinn Williams, I thought
they'd be better against the run than they were tonight,
especially in the key spots and the fourth court. I
thought you had a really accurate tweet in which you said,
Brian Schottenheimer, you know, settling for field goal when his
defense can't buy a stop. And I'm thinking this is
the moment in which the Cowboys run defense should shine
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and it just didn't at all.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Okay, let's talk about that.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, I know, Brandon Aubrey's great, and we're gonna listen
to him hitting yet another sixty yarder in just a second.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
He's the reason they were in this game, by the way,
him and Dak that was it.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Yes, And he hit a couple long, you know, long ones.
He was great. He's not so great that three is
better than seven. And with apologies to Patrick Claybon who's
always saying, you know, the three points counts, they still
count on the scoreboard. With the situations that Ryan Schottenheimer
chose to go for the field goals two times in
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this game, we're just bad situational football. So the first
one end of the first half, it's fourth and four,
they're down seventeen to six. It's a long field goal
and you can be confident Aubrey's gonna make it, but
it's not a gimme, and he decided to kick the
field goal instead of going for it on fourth and four.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
The Cowboys are moving the ball well. And the reason
why that was a.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Bad decision was because with over fifty seconds left and
the way that his defense was playing. I just thought,
and a lot of people first guessed it if they
kicked this field goal, if they make it, the Cowboys
are gonna give up a field goal right back.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
And that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
In fact, the Lions had a play to score a
touchdown right back. Fifty seconds is an eternity, and Jared
Goff missed Isaac Taslaw pretty open on a play down
the field, so that was a mistake and he ends
up giving up three extra points there.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Whereas at the.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Very least, you know what Mike Rabel would have done,
You know what a lot of good coaches would have done.
They would have gone up to the line of scrimmage
and they would have pretended like they were going to
run a play, and then they would have called the
time out with a couple seconds left, so you burn
twenty five thirty seconds. Instead, they sent the field goal
kicker out right away, and so the opposition knows what's happening.
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They take the time out, they saved the thirty seconds,
all sorts of mistakes. Then at the end of the game,
it's a fourth and three, and again they send Aubrey
out there to cut the lead to seven. And I'm thinking,
there's no freaking way your defense is gonna stop them
right now, and your special teams has stunk right all night.
You want to know why the Lions had less total
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yards than the Cowboys because Kennedy was starting every drive
of the forty with his kick returns exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
So that's what happened. Again.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
He basically brought it to midfield two plays later their
infield goal range after the alman Rah play, and like
four plays later, three plays later, I think Gibbs has
the game winning touchdown. With all that said, let's at
least give Brandon Aubrey some love. Let's listen, because I've
heard this call is fun and we a listener on
(14:46):
Blue Sky let us know. They were like, you gotta
use this radio call, so let's check it out.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I have not listened to it.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Butter sixty three snap kick.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
On the way. The kick good, it's buttery good.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
It's sixty three yards good, it's buttery.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I feel like I'm listening to like a cave believe
it's not butter commercial buttery good.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I don't know what's with that voice. That was Brad Sham.
He was having some fun on KRL.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yeah, got ld. I love how.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Kickers are going deep, you know, but it's not all
about the k ball with Aubrey, He's been hitting these
kicks before. Roger Sherman had a great noe that. Brandon Aubrey,
who's now has six sixty plus yard field goals, now
has as many sixty plus yard field goals as the
entire National Football League had until two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Wow, I thought we're gonna pull like a number from
like nineteen eighty nine or something.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
No, it was not like, since I'm just saying, in
the history of the league up until two thousand and eight,
there was a total of six, you know, and Brandon
Aubrey has already hit six.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, because that and that range. Jason Elam was like
the only one who could really threaten. He was kicking
in Denver. He had to be like an altitude to
even threaten.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
For well, uh my missing toe.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Buddy Tom Dempsey from two lane hit that sixty three
right that that was sitting out there for a while.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
That was back in the seventies.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
He got a shoe band because of it.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
What else can we point out in this game? There
were some terrible calls it.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
I I really avoid talking calls on this game.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
And it's it's not because I work for the NFL.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I just find it boring because inn less like a
particular call completely transforms. It happens every game and you
can find calls both ways, and it's like, yeah, there's
terrible calls in every game. Like, I just don't know
what else to say about tonight. It was a particularly
poor crew and it went back and forth. I think
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the Lions got a bad whistle overall, but it almost
was made up for at the end, and when they
called an offensive pass interference against Jake Ferguson that was
a total mystery. So at least the Lions got a
little bit of payback from a lot of bad calls
the rest of the day.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
You're right, because I'm thinking now, I'm like, this is
kind of a boring top and to complain about refs,
and it's also just like very cliche. But it was
actually a bad week for the refs across the league.
The Sunday night game was really bad. Refs getting too involved,
being too you know, in the center of attention and
not one hundred percent affecting the game, but kind of
affecting the game. Maybe it even not a little bit
at the end with that terrible call on Ferguson. In
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what world is that offensive pass interference and then that
leads to the field goal, by the way, like, yes,
a terrible sequence for the Cowboys, but yeah, it's rough man.
I don't know. Sometimes I feel like we overlegislate the
game and we're looking too closely for minor infractions that
become you know, game changing or game influencing calls at
the worst possible time. There was a touchdown earlier in
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the game, they came back from penalty. By the way,
the Cowboys didn't help themselves when it came to the
flags tonight. They had seven penalties excepted for seventy six yards,
and for a good portion of this game, it felt
as if every time they made some progress and made
a big play, it was coming back because of penalty.
A lot of them just being self inflicted penalties, not
bad calls. So it's not like the officials had anything
to do with the fact that the Cowboys lost this game.
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It was just a bad night for the officials overall,
and the Cowboys didn't help themselves.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Yeah, Jake Ferguson had a couple of them. One of them,
like we said, was a bad call at the end
of the game, but he had a couple before that,
including a hands to the face penalty which ended up
offsetting a law George Pickens PI, which really hurt the Cowboys.
So there were frustrations. And I want to hear the
Lions radio booth, which is maybe the best in the
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entire business.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
It's tough.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
It's tough to beat out JB. Long and MGD our
friends here in Los Angeles. There's a few right at
the top. But Dan Miller, he's been vying for the crown.
He had the call of the Year last year. Let's
listen to them unhappy during this game.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I'm and Ron motion right, there's the snap, might be
a free play golf back looking left side throws. It
is incomplete, looking for Jmo. Jamo wants a flag down
the left side. There's no flag for off side. There's
no flag for Jamo.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Who was interfered with?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
What the heck is going on here with these officials tonight,
hold on, that was clearly.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Only sides, right guys.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yes, there were two guys off side and the three
guys off sides.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
One of these officials doing fellas.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
This is a big game.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
You're working tonight. Don't work in tonight.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
That's embarrassing. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
We can working tonight.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
We are working tonight.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
You know what they replayed that though that might have
been early actually that this that no one was ready
but the ball moved.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I don't know if there were off sides, but it
should have been a pellanty.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I have a back of r I gotta agree, and
I well, okay, I think so to a degree. But
I also think that we have first off. Pass interference
needs to be changed from a spot foul to just
a fifteen yard pal like it is in college football, okay,
because there's way so many times in football games in
which passes are just chucked downfield, underthrown, hoping for a
PI call, and it happens way too often. But what
it has done, and I hear this on broadcasts now
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and it very much upsets me because it's not it
doesn't connect to the true essence of football. Every time
a ball is thrown up in a one on one
situation and it's not caught and it's contested, there's a
pause and then broadcasters will go no flag, or they'll
wait for a flag to be thrown. This game should
not be brought down to that. I just have to
get that ran off right now. They were offside though,
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and they had a very good reason to complain that
I should have been a free play.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Don't get me started on the call on Thursday nights.
Kirk Curve Street and al are making Thursday night football
much less enjoyable for me. Just just I need more.
I need more of everything. I need more excitement, I
need more analysis. I need just I just need more.
I don't think they were recovering.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, it's it's less. It's it's less content that's on
your prep card and more reaction to what's going on
in the game in front of you, Like that fourth
down decision to kick the field goal there, like that
Brian Schottenheimer. Should it, at at minimum you analyze it
in the moment as opposed to after the field goal
to kick off in the ensuing possession.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Someone tells you on the break, let's end before we
take a break, and we're gonna get to your QB index.
Nice little QB segment to wrap up was something more positive.
Jamir Gibbs with that last touchdown now has as many
touchdowns as any player in the history of the NFL
before turning twenty four years old, tying the great Barry Sanders.
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This is becoming a legendary start to a career for
Jamir Gibbs. And by the way, he doesn't turn twenty
four until this offseason, so he has the rest of
the season to break it. And he had a play
that if you're watching, you can watch like see on YouTube.
And man, I feel like we're gonna be playing this
for a long time, making port Dron Bland just touch
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the earth, you know, he.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Put him in the dirt. I mean it was.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
And there's another angle of it where where Bland is
coming at the camera. There it is that's embarrassing, bro.
And that was on the same drive where he's stiff
armed Bland into the ground.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I mean, you want to see a man's ego and
confidence crumble right before their eyes. It's when Bland crumpled
to the turf. There the great Chris Berman used to
make a sound that I can't replicate. There it is
thank you.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
I think actually, right now, Bland, he has to at
least offer his firstborn child to name him.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
You gotta name him Jamir. Why am I.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Why's my name?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Jamiir Dad? Well, there was this guy who played for
the Lions who once absolutely destroyed me on primetime television
when I played football back in the day.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Uh, what a player and what a night.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
I'm really glad that the Lions are gonna be right
in this mix down the stretch. I'm not ruling out
the Cowboys, but Vikings, Chargers at Commanders at Giants. I
just don't trust this team to get through that gauntlet
without stubbing their toe and home for the Chargers is
not an easy game whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
So we'll see. But I like them.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I want them to stay in the mix to at
least when next Sunday Night is basically gonna be an
elimination game for them against the Vikings in primetime. They
did not flex that game out. Well we're gonna get
JJ in primetime one more time.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, that's a bummer. You know, as I think about
these Cowboys is before we go to break here, I'm
conflicted on how to view them right now because and
this is why I bring this question to you. If
you consider all the circumstances that surrounded this team when
they started the season and the way that they went
through the off season and the eventual trade of Michael
Parsons to Green Bay eight eight and one would feel
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kind of like an achievement in Brian shot I know
Cowboys fans expect more and the standard is higher than that,
but do you think that that would be considered a
relatively successful season in Brian Schoenheimer's first year.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
I think Brian Schottenheimer could be considered successful ish, But no,
because it's like the bar is always changing. They're basically
landing where everyone expected them to be all along. They
just got there in the most Cowboys way possible.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
But while claiming that they have Super Bowl ambitions, Okay,
all right.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
That's like they still have four more games to change
our minds. It's a big rest of the season to go.
But this was a disappointing day. Matt Eberflus is going
to get roasted for the next ten days on Dallas
Sports Talk radio, just like he was early in the season.
And a disappointing loss to give up a forty burger,
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Let's take a quick break. We'll be back on the
other side. Wrap it up with a little quarterback talk.
Shookie is the quarterback ranger back on NFL Daily up
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with our favorite time a week and yes it is
time for Quarterback Keeper, presented by Snapdragon. This is where
we talk about Nick Shook's QB Index. He is the
man that makes the quarterback rankings at NFL Network and
they have a big graphic that they put up every
week on social And I used to be the writer
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of QB Index, and so I know Shook that when
this bad boy comes out, it's got Stafford one, May two,
Dak is third. I don't know if he would go
up or down off of tonight. I think you'd stay
about the same. Josh Allen, Patrick, Mahomes, and Herbert all
unchanged this week in the top six. Love that and
you wrap up with love Goff and Baker Mayfield and
then brock Purty all the way up to number ten
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after a nice game that's spicy.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
How much.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Like, hey, are you getting each and every week? And
how much is it gonna come from me right now?
For rank Lamar Jackson number twenty or something?
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Just preposterous? What's going on?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Wait? Give away to the surprise. I actually get a
good amount of hate via Instagram when this is posted
by the Game Day team. It has died down in
recent weeks, which tells me one of two things. Either
people are agreeing with me more or they're just tired
of it.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
In general, I think it's more late in the season
you do see some team's fan bases just die off
a little bit, you know, and so like they're not
as angry.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
But I am.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Let's start with Lamar because every week in this segment,
we're gonna do someone who fell, someone who rose, and
Lamar Jackson. I couldn't believe this shook is ranked below
Kirk Cousins on your list. The same list that had
Rock Purty rise up to the top ten doesn't have
Lamar Jackson in the top twenty. Please explain yourself.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Okay, so people are gonna paint me as he's just
a Lamar hater, He's just a ravens haater. Not true.
Last year when Josh Allen won the m guess who
was number one at the end of the year on
my QB Index Lamar Jackson because he deserved to win MVP.
Big Lamar fan do not like the version of Lamar
we're seeing right now. He is nowhere near who he
is at the peak of his powers. Who the Ravens
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need him to be to reach their potential, and I
know a lot of it has to deal with the
injuries that he's dealt with with his ankles. Right they're
both spatted up fixed spats every week. But his mobility
is almost gone. He cannot separate from rushers anymore. He
doesn't look confident that he can actually turn that into
a weapon again, and I think it's affecting his entire
process as a quarterback. Now. He still makes some good
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throws from time to time, and it didn't affect him
initially when he came back. I think he had like
a four touchdown game when he first came back. But
in the last few weeks he hasn't thrown a touchdown pass.
This offense has struggled mightily, and he is not the
dynamic threat that we've known him to be. And the
weird thing about this exercise is because we have so
many guys going in and out of the rankings, these
numbers are they kind of lie to you. Now, Kirk,
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I thought had one of the better games you're gonna
see from a backup, and that lost to the Jets
this week.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I was shocked by let's calm down Kirk.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Given how bad he was the week before, it's all
relative week by a week.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Yeah, but that's what I wanted to get to, Like,
does the first month of Lamar playing like an MVP
matter at all? Because to me, Lamar Jackson could come
out and he could have a freaky Friday with Tim
Tebow for the rest of the season, and even that
month would have him ahead of Kirk Cousins for the
rest of the season.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Give me a break, shooky.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
And I can say I'm guilty of recency bias. But
because it's a week by week thing, and because his
last game before he had his extended absence was a
nightmare against the Chiefs, partially due to injury, I feel
like that was such a long time ago that I
cannot really justify on a week by week basis that
he should be ahead of even a guy like Kirk Cousins.
And then other reason that he's down this far is
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because we had a number of guys come back from
you know, injury. We had Sieg just Droud come back
from injury, we had Jack and Dart comeback, and we
had Joe Burrow. So that pushes him down three more playss.
I just need one decent competitive game from him, and
he's gonna climb back up. But it's been a very
volatile season for a lot of the household names, and
Lamar is not spared from that.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
He wasn't a total disaster against the Jets. But to
back you up, even though I think this is harsh
on PFF, which I don't hate their QB scoring, I
kind of get what they're what they're doing, giving positives,
giving negatives.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
For each each play.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
It usually does grade out like in a way that
makes sense to me, even even if you disagree with them.
They have multiple people watching each and every play like
that's a useful thing to happen. Like the last two years,
he's been the highest quarterback he's been in the nineties,
ninety four whatever over the last six games, and that's
going all the way back to that Chiefs game you're
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talking about. He has three games in the forties, which is,
you know, worst quarterback in the league territory. I think
that's harsh and everything what I'm talking about it I
would I would guess if you went through his last
five years, you might not find three other games in
the forties.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
And the other game the fifties, he's gonna throw three
picks and it wouldn't have been in the fifties.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I still think it's too much.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
I think at some point, Shook, you got to just
look and you when you're writing down Lamar Jackson and
then you're looking above him and you're seeing the name
Kirk Cousins, and uh, I know, you just gotta just
gotta do it's right, and not.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
That I'm taking You know what, when I when I
get to the process, when I start ranking them, there's
a lot of movement. I'll start writing it, you know what,
that actually doesn't make sense. Five minutes later, I swap
a couple of guys here and there. This one. It
was when I put Lamar down there, I was like, God,
that's really tough. But I have no way to vouch
like to justify that he should be ahead of any
of these guys that are now.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
I would I would give a little more weight to
the first three weeks because even those three weeks, that's
just better than any of these guys at the bottom
have ever done.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
That's fair, but it's also sample size. Think about that too.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
That's fair. Okay, let's talk positive.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Give me a quarterback that went up in the rankings
that you liked watching this week.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Okay, so I said this is a volatile exercise. No
quarterback in the NFL has had a more volatile season
than Bryce Young.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Greg.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
We just watched him play the Niners and look completely overmatched,
as if he couldn't make decisions on time, He couldn't
throw accurate passes, he couldn't maybe even see over the
offensive line. He didn't look confident. It was ugly. The
week before that he torched the Falcons. The week after
that he lights it up again. I don't know who
he is from week to week. He's making throws on
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third and fourth down in tight windows, in big spots
like it's nothing. Incredible accuracy, incredible clutch gene. He threw
two passes of thirty plus yards for touchdowns on fourth
down in this win over the Rams. And it's not
the credit that the fact that he was you know,
he led the Panthers to the win over the Rams, necessarily,
it's how he played in the biggest spots. He looked
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so composed, and it just blows my mind that he
can look so different from one week to the next.
But this week he was excellent, and he was a
big reason why the Panthers got that upset victory.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Totally agree.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
It was a composed perfect game where it's mostly short
stuff against the Rams, but then on fourth down when
they went big play hunting, he hit those big plays.
And that's the thing about Bryce Young. He's a strange
evaluation because his great throws are really great. It's not
like he's a quarterback that you watch and you don't
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think is talented, like he has next level you know,
the way he sees the game and some of the
just hootspa that he can put on some of those shorts.
But then you can have other games like two of
the last four are the forty nine Ers game and
the Saints game, which were just brutal, brutal, and so
that's why it's tough when you're ranking them.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
If I was your editor, you know, I'm a jerk here, I.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Would be like, you got to average it out a
little bit, you know, don't go so much, you know
for week to week. You kind of gotta look at
the big picture, and when you add that all up,
you want a quarterback that is more consistent. So to me, overall,
it's it's been a little below average this season. But
to your point, trending up after an excellent game and
excellent two out of three games, it's just that that
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garbage game in the middle.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
This will, I think give proper context to his current standing.
He climbed twelve spots, by the.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Way, So that's how can someone climb twelve spots this late?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Because there's a lot of movement around him. But consider
the guys he's he's sandwiched by right now, Trevor Lawrence, Yeah,
and Caleb Williams. Yeah, that sounds about right right.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yes, Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Yes, Caleb has had had had his issues, and so
I get why they're in the same area. Have Caleb ahead,
certainly in my mind, Trevor and him are occupying kind
of the same space in the in the sphere.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Maybe your editors are just like afraid of you because.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Of I'm two thousand miles away. I know, but just
take a five hour flight to pose any threat an
imposing figure. Maybe that's it they're just saying.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Or maybe it's just a big workload, or you know what,
we'll go with it.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Maybe it is an enormous workload. You put a lot
of work into it, and I kid here, but no
one does a better job breaking it all down. Maybe
they know also it's good for business to see the rankings.
They would get it, you know, they would get on
me back in the day. I'm like, it's fifteen weeks,
nothing really changed in the top ten, you know, And
they're like, it's boring if you just rerun the same right,
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And you.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Know what, I was probably a little more static with
my rankings in previous season than I have been this year.
But I think this year has been one of those
wild years where there's been so much fluctuation that it's justified.
And the inverse of that, on the flip side, is
the fact that, as we showed in the top ten,
the first six guys didn't move. Yes, when I looked
at all their performances, I thought, Dafford's still number one.
May is closer than ever to him, but he's still
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number two. Dak had a good game on Thanksgiving. Josh
Allen had a great game, but I can't justify moving
him ahead of Dak right now. And the same is
true for Mahoes and Herbert. Like, there's two sides to
this whole process, but it makes for a lot of
fun debate and some occasionally angry personal attacks to me
via direct message, but that comes with the territory.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Yeah, I apologize for that, but I do think you
have Baker Mayfield too high, so I just had to
come after you pretty hard.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
He was I think he was out of the top
ten last week.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Debbie Heathy should be.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
That was Quarterback Keeper by the Way, presented by Snapdragon.
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let's get out of here, Shook. We'll be back in
the feed. Thank you for all that you do. We
will have it Shook on covering the Big Bills Bengals
game on Sunday night on the Recap Show. I can't wait.
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Speaker 3 (35:53):
We will see that
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Y
Team golf up under center, single back Gibs. They give
to Jamir, run it outside, got a block or down
it a ten.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
To the five to the end zone.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Wave to him. He's gone baby. Touchdown.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Detroit Lions Tristan Cologne with a nice block to help
springing thirteen yards and the Lions can double up their
league with the extra point.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
If it's a Lions game.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Jamir Gibbs is doing something incredible. Yes, that was the
final goal of his hat trick tonight.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
That was Dan Miller on w x y T.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
We're gonna be hearing a lot from Dan Miller, one
of the best in the business.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Like Jamir Gibbs.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
He gets those three touchdowns on the ground as part
of a forty four to thirty victory over the Dallas Cowboys.
We were so excited, Shooky for a great Thursday night matchup,
and what we got was a great win for the
Lions where they controlled the action. Old school Lions, and
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by old school I mean the last couple of years
and really dominated this Cowboys defense defensively, put them in
their place and knock that Cowboys playoff chances down to
the single digits.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, And what's crazy is you know, I look at
the numbers real quick, and I'm thinking the Lions had
to be close to five hundred yards of offense. Nope,
just four hundred and eight. They actually got out gain
didn't look like it on the field, because, like you said,
they controlled the game. This was it was one of
those games where you've watched the Lions recently, you wonder, like,
where are the Lions as we've known them over the
last couple of years, And they've had absences. They haven't
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had Amen ra Saint Brown for a while, they don't
have Sam Laporta, so it kind of makes sense by
you know, the passing game hasn't been as good as
you would expect. The offensive line hasn't been at full strength,
so much that Frank Ragnow tried to come out of
retirement and then couldn't pass as physical. And yet now
tonight they finally kind of put it all together against
the defense that you would think maybe a month ago
that they should have done this, but this Cowboys defense
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has been getting better. So it is in fact a
statement win for the Lions because they needed to state
that the rest of the NFL that they're not just
going to fade into the Abyss. They're not just going
to let this season and go away. They're going to
fight all the way to the end. And they got
a huge victory in a big spot.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
I think that's really well said. And when I was
thinking about this game ahead of time, I was thinking, Okay,
this Cowboys team, they're kind of like they're an upstart. Literally,
it's a bunch of guys on the defense that just
either got healthy or joined the team in the case
of you know, Quinn Williams and Geneveon Clowney or the
rookie revel who got picked on a little bit tonight
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for the Cowboys, or a lot And I thought, Okay,
I know the Lions have a lot of things going
against it, but maybe it's a day for these guys
who have been in this same system to step up
and be like not on our watch, at least not
this week.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
And you really saw that.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
You saw Jared Goff, I think, have a really good
game against pressure. Overall, there was a throw and we've
got this if you're watching on YouTube, that Jared Goff
made to Jamison Williams on a crosser in the fourth quarter.
So to set it up at one point was twenty
seven to nine. The Cowboys come all the way back
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to make it thirty to twenty seven. It's a third
and six with about eight and a half minutes left
in the game, and there is immediate pressure up the
middle on Jared Goff and he has to throw that
thing almost without seeing it total trust gets hit. They
end up calling a penalty because he got hit in
the face. Right afterwards, beautiful ball where he leaves Jamison
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Williams on the catch, and they end up going to
score in that drive. If they don't convert that play, shook,
it's Cowboys ball. They're down three, and at some point
in this game, the Cowboys offense basically figured out whatever
the Lions defense was gonna do, and they were going
up and down the field. The only reason they didn't
score forty is because they turned the ball over three
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times tonight. That was the difference in this game. And
so there were a few different moments like that where
I thought the old guard of the Detroit Lions, and yes,
Jamison Williams is old guard.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Now he signed a second contract.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
You know it's golf and Montgomery and Gibbs, and yes,
I'm on Ross saying and I thought that was a
massive moment in this game and a great night for
Jared Goff.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I'm so glad you highlight of that, because that wasn't
the only time GoF did that. In the fourth quarter.
He had pressure in his face multiple times, which in
previous weeks has been kind of the explanation for why
their offense has just not been as productive as you
would expect them to be. It was all over him
again tonight, and there were moments where again he's throwing
dirt balls where he's just trying to get rid of
the ball, where he doesn't look comfortable, but eventually he
adjusted it and in the biggest spots he was delivering
throws under pressure. There was another similar throw like that
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where he's got a man in his face almost instantly
and I'm thinking, there's no way that ball gets to him,
and I think it was to Williams again near the sticks,
where it was another really impressive play. And once those happened,
I realized, Oh, the Lions are going to overcome this.
They're not going to fold in this situation because Goff's
making those throws which we've seen in recent weeks. I
can't remember exactly who the opponent was where oh it
was the Eagles game where he looked completely lost, like
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that defense I absolutely broke his brain. It did not.
His brain was not broken. Tonight he stepped up in
a in a big way.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
I love the way you put that, and I think
he's been up for the challenge the last two weeks.
Their defense really hasn't. Brian Branch was carted off tonight,
and you have to give the Lions defense credit for
making a few big plays. Jack Campbell forces the fumble
at one point he looked like he had a safety
as well, and then they get another big interception of
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Dak Prescott to start the second half, which came on
a slant to George Pickens where the ball gets broken up.
But yeah, it's about the old guard, and when I
think old guard of the Lions, it's about that running
back David Montgomery, who is not getting nearly as much
playing time rightfully, Dan Campbell play caller. One of the
things he has done has really limited David Montgomery to
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keep Jamir Gibbs on the field. But when they used
Montgomery tonight, he pulled off one of the biggest plays
of the night in the second quarter we're.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Across the front. They bring up Blitz, They hand it
off to Montgomery. Montgomery pickle twenty five yards, still going
at the.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Twenty, cuts it right at the fifteen.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
He's gone baby to the house, Steve owing a touchdown.
Detroit Lions thirty five.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yards, seventeen snaps on the night, only six carries, but yes,
that big touchdown. He also had a good reception on
the night, and so he's one of the guys again
you look to and how about aman Rais Saint Brown.
We thought he was not going to play in this game,
and he ends up with what six catches for ninety
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two yards and kind of the catch that helped put
the game away when the Lions got the ball up
seven late and ended up going in for a touchdown.
That was the Gibbs third touchdown. But they needed points
on that drive. And basically all these guys, you know,
they deliver shook in. Do you think now when you
look at the schedule only four games ahead, you know
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they're in a down year and they're eight and five, Like,
where do you think the Lions go from here? Do
you think they could make the playoffs or will make
the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I consider them a playoff team. I think they're strong
enough to be a playoff team. They've weathered a lot
of injuries, but they have delivered in a lot of
these key moments.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
The Packers loss on Thanksgiving was a disappointing result, and
the Eagles game was the most concert one, but there
have been other instances in which they've looked more like
the team that we knew them to be, like when
they blew out the Commanders, you know, in Week ten,
for example. So I think that they're they're in a
position to do it. They do have a bit of
a tough road remaining. They get the Rams in LA
next week, and that's gonna be tough. The Steelers, I
don't know who they are. I think the Lions that
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beat them. They dominate the Vikings even though it's in Minnesota,
because we know the Vikings aren't good, and then it
all comes down to potentially that game in Chicago Week eighteen,
like that could be the deciding factor. But I feel,
and I know it's only one game that it's against
the Cowboys defense that has gotten better in recent weeks,
but it's still the Cowboys defense. I can't tell you
how many times this season, they've watched a receiver running
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a crossing route just run right by Marque's bell. It
happened multiple times tonight again, and like you said, Sharon,
Ravel looked a little lost on the touchdown pass to
Isaac Dislaw on the touchdown run by Jamior Gibbs that
we played to open the show, where you know that
meme of the toddler where like he runs around the
corner and gets scared and he's like kind of wobbling
and runs away. That's what Revel looked like at a
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few spots tonight. So, yes, this defense like that they
face is not the strongest and so you take it
with a bit of a grain of salt. But it's
the metal, it's the intestinal fortitude of this team that
has been tested, has been there before. I think they're
going to see it through.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
So this win was so key for a few reasons.
The Cowboys schedule is very favorable down the stretch, and
at six losses they probably have to win out. They're
six six and one. I thought all along that they
are the ultimate eight eight in one team and it'll
be fun to see how they get there, and they
might be headed there. But the schedule sets up in
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a way where you could see them winning now or
certainly winning three of those four. So if they had
got the head to head, and I know they're not
going to end up tying, but if they had won
while the Lions lost, it would have just been brutal
because that would have been another team for the Lions
to pass. But now that they put some distance between
them and the Cowboys, even if they lose to the
Rams next week, you have a really tough Bear schedule,
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and you know that game is sitting there in Week eighteen,
so you could afford to probably lose to the Ram
as long as you don't lose again. If you can
get to week eighteen, that could be the Sunday night.
How about a loser goes home game between them and
the Bears. And I know I'm projecting some Bears losses,
but there will be losses. The Bears, also, by the way,
have a forty nine ers game, and so those are
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two teams that the Lions are trying to chase. One
of them will end up losing that week. We're looking
a little too far ahead. I still want to talk
about this game from the Cowboy side. They were down
twenty seven to nine when Ceedee Lamb left with a
concussion and Ceede Lamb was having a big night over
one hundred yards. Obviously, that's really concerning for them in general.
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Shook with their offense, Like what did you see like
on either side of the ball. That maybe gives you
a little concern that we got over our skis after
those back to back wins against the Eagles and the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Well, I mean, obviously once CD left, it exposed how
I guess rigid they are and where they can go
in the passing game, because we know who Dak is.
He's he played another great game and I know you
had two picks on his ledger and the first pick
that he threw was ugly, but he made some throws
under pressure that were just phenomenal. He's putting balls into
tight windows.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Again.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
He was the reason again that they were in this game.
I am concerned with about their offensive line, which allowed
way too many pressures that you know, missing your starting
left tackle was a just a very visible weakness right
from the beginning, and then you get beat on both
edges on multiple occasions. The pocket integrity was just not
there tonight. Bet worries me as they go forward. You know,
Javonte Williams has had a nice year, a better the
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year than I think most of us expected, but he
is basically their only option in the backfield unless you
go to Malik Davis, who just you know, popped off
a touchdown run last week, but otherwise, you know, he's
very unproven. I just think that they are limited without
CD and Pickens on the field. At the same time,
not to mention the fact that we have this weird
thing going on with their passing game where one week
it's a Pickens week, and one week it's a CD week,
And like, this week's the CD week and Pickens end's
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with five catches for thirty seven yards and essentially disappears.
I know fantasy owners are very upset about it. There
are multiple periods in this game where I'm watching on
Prime Vision they're identifying players and it's Ryan Florinoy, and
it's Cavante Turpin and it's Jonathan Mingo out there, and
I'm like, oh, so we're just rotating all the receivers
right now. I mean, Flamoy, you know, is receiver.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
I think I think Flinoy could be a player. He
ends up with nine for one point fifteen tonight. I
think he moves pretty well. He got a touchdown on
a broken coverage late. That was the play that made
it thirty to twenty seven, and that was a play
where I think Brian Branch actually made a mistake. Brian Branch,
who got hurt and hopefully he can you know it
wasn't as bad as it looked when he got carted off.
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Has really been struggling since that suspension. But I think
Flornoy and Turpin are okay as like supplementary receivers. Obviously
they need to get Cede Lamb back on the field,
but they have a lot to like. Of course, on
that side of the ball.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
We know that their secondary is not good. I feel
a lot better about their front seven with the return
of Demarvion Overshown the addition of Quinn Williams, I thought
they'd be better against the run than they were tonight,
especially in the key spots and the fourth court. I
thought you had a really accurate tweet in which you said,
Brian Schottenheimer, you know, settling for field goal when his
defense can't buy a stop. And I'm thinking this is
the moment in which the Cowboys run defense should shine
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and it just didn't at all.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Okay, let's talk about that.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, I know, Brandon Aubrey's great, and we're gonna listen
to him hitting yet another sixty yarder in just a second.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
He's the reason they were in this game, by the way,
him and Dak that was it.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Yes, And he hit a couple long, you know, long ones.
He was great. He's not so great that three is
better than seven. And with apologies to Patrick Claybon who's
always saying, you know, the three points counts, they still
count on the scoreboard. With the situations that Ryan Schottenheimer
chose to go for the field goals two times in
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this game, we're just bad situational football. So the first
one end of the first half, it's fourth and four,
they're down seventeen to six. It's a long field goal
and you can be confident Aubrey's gonna make it, but
it's not a gimme, and he decided to kick the
field goal instead of going for it on fourth and four.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
The Cowboys are moving the ball well. And the reason
why that was a.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Bad decision was because with over fifty seconds left and
the way that his defense was playing. I just thought,
and a lot of people first guessed it if they
kicked this field goal, if they make it, the Cowboys
are gonna give up a field goal right back.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
And that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
In fact, the Lions had a play to score a
touchdown right back. Fifty seconds is an eternity, and Jared
Goff missed Isaac Taslaw pretty open on a play down
the field, so that was a mistake and he ends
up giving up three extra points there.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Whereas at the.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Very least, you know what Mike Rabel would have done,
You know what a lot of good coaches would have done.
They would have gone up to the line of scrimmage
and they would have pretended like they were going to
run a play, and then they would have called the
time out with a couple seconds left, so you burn
twenty five thirty seconds. Instead, they sent the field goal
kicker out right away, and so the opposition knows what's happening.
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They take the time out, they saved the thirty seconds,
all sorts of mistakes. Then at the end of the game,
it's a fourth and three, and again they send Aubrey
out there to cut the lead to seven. And I'm thinking,
there's no freaking way your defense is gonna stop them
right now, and your special teams has stunk right all night.
You want to know why the Lions had less total
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yards than the Cowboys because Kennedy was starting every drive
of the forty with his kick returns exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
So that's what happened. Again.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
He basically brought it to midfield two plays later their
infield goal range after the alman Rah play, and like
four plays later, three plays later, I think Gibbs has
the game winning touchdown. With all that said, let's at
least give Brandon Aubrey some love. Let's listen, because I've
heard this call is fun and we a listener on
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Blue Sky let us know. They were like, you gotta
use this radio call, so let's check it out.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I have not listened to it.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Butter sixty three snap kick.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
On the way. The kick good, it's buttery good.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
It's sixty three yards good, it's buttery.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I feel like I'm listening to like a cave believe
it's not butter commercial buttery good.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I don't know what's with that voice. That was Brad Sham.
He was having some fun on KRL.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yeah, got ld. I love how.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Kickers are going deep, you know, but it's not all
about the k ball with Aubrey, He's been hitting these
kicks before. Roger Sherman had a great noe that. Brandon Aubrey,
who's now has six sixty plus yard field goals, now
has as many sixty plus yard field goals as the
entire National Football League had until two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Wow, I thought we're gonna pull like a number from
like nineteen eighty nine or something.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
No, it was not like, since I'm just saying, in
the history of the league up until two thousand and eight,
there was a total of six, you know, and Brandon
Aubrey has already hit six.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, because that and that range. Jason Elam was like
the only one who could really threaten. He was kicking
in Denver. He had to be like an altitude to
even threaten.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
For well, uh my missing toe.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Buddy Tom Dempsey from two lane hit that sixty three
right that that was sitting out there for a while.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
That was back in the seventies.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
He got a shoe band because of it.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
What else can we point out in this game? There
were some terrible calls it.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
I I really avoid talking calls on this game.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
And it's it's not because I work for the NFL.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I just find it boring because inn less like a
particular call completely transforms. It happens every game and you
can find calls both ways, and it's like, yeah, there's
terrible calls in every game. Like, I just don't know
what else to say about tonight. It was a particularly
poor crew and it went back and forth. I think
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the Lions got a bad whistle overall, but it almost
was made up for at the end, and when they
called an offensive pass interference against Jake Ferguson that was
a total mystery. So at least the Lions got a
little bit of payback from a lot of bad calls
the rest of the day.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
You're right, because I'm thinking now, I'm like, this is
kind of a boring top and to complain about refs,
and it's also just like very cliche. But it was
actually a bad week for the refs across the league.
The Sunday night game was really bad. Refs getting too involved,
being too you know, in the center of attention and
not one hundred percent affecting the game, but kind of
affecting the game. Maybe it even not a little bit
at the end with that terrible call on Ferguson. In
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what world is that offensive pass interference and then that
leads to the field goal, by the way, like, yes,
a terrible sequence for the Cowboys, but yeah, it's rough man.
I don't know. Sometimes I feel like we overlegislate the
game and we're looking too closely for minor infractions that
become you know, game changing or game influencing calls at
the worst possible time. There was a touchdown earlier in
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the game, they came back from penalty. By the way,
the Cowboys didn't help themselves when it came to the
flags tonight. They had seven penalties excepted for seventy six yards,
and for a good portion of this game, it felt
as if every time they made some progress and made
a big play, it was coming back because of penalty.
A lot of them just being self inflicted penalties, not
bad calls. So it's not like the officials had anything
to do with the fact that the Cowboys lost this game.
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It was just a bad night for the officials overall,
and the Cowboys didn't help themselves.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Yeah, Jake Ferguson had a couple of them. One of them,
like we said, was a bad call at the end
of the game, but he had a couple before that,
including a hands to the face penalty which ended up
offsetting a law George Pickens PI, which really hurt the Cowboys.
So there were frustrations. And I want to hear the
Lions radio booth, which is maybe the best in the
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entire business.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
It's tough.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
It's tough to beat out JB. Long and MGD our
friends here in Los Angeles. There's a few right at
the top. But Dan Miller, he's been vying for the crown.
He had the call of the Year last year. Let's
listen to them unhappy during this game.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I'm and Ron motion right, there's the snap, might be
a free play golf back looking left side throws. It
is incomplete, looking for Jmo. Jamo wants a flag down
the left side. There's no flag for off side. There's
no flag for Jamo.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Who was interfered with?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
What the heck is going on here with these officials tonight,
hold on, that was clearly.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Only sides, right guys.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yes, there were two guys off side and the three
guys off sides.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
One of these officials doing fellas.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
This is a big game.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
You're working tonight. Don't work in tonight.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
That's embarrassing. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
We can working tonight.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
We are working tonight.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
You know what they replayed that though that might have
been early actually that this that no one was ready
but the ball moved.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I don't know if there were off sides, but it
should have been a pellanty.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I have a back of r I gotta agree, and
I well, okay, I think so to a degree. But
I also think that we have first off. Pass interference
needs to be changed from a spot foul to just
a fifteen yard pal like it is in college football, okay,
because there's way so many times in football games in
which passes are just chucked downfield, underthrown, hoping for a
PI call, and it happens way too often. But what
it has done, and I hear this on broadcasts now
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and it very much upsets me because it's not it
doesn't connect to the true essence of football. Every time
a ball is thrown up in a one on one
situation and it's not caught and it's contested, there's a
pause and then broadcasters will go no flag, or they'll
wait for a flag to be thrown. This game should
not be brought down to that. I just have to
get that ran off right now. They were offside though,
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and they had a very good reason to complain that
I should have been a free play.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Don't get me started on the call on Thursday nights.
Kirk Curve Street and al are making Thursday night football
much less enjoyable for me. Just just I need more.
I need more of everything. I need more excitement, I
need more analysis. I need just I just need more.
I don't think they were recovering.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, it's it's less. It's it's less content that's on
your prep card and more reaction to what's going on
in the game in front of you, Like that fourth
down decision to kick the field goal there, like that
Brian Schottenheimer. Should it, at at minimum you analyze it
in the moment as opposed to after the field goal
to kick off in the ensuing possession.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Someone tells you on the break, let's end before we
take a break, and we're gonna get to your QB index.
Nice little QB segment to wrap up was something more positive.
Jamir Gibbs with that last touchdown now has as many
touchdowns as any player in the history of the NFL
before turning twenty four years old, tying the great Barry Sanders.
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This is becoming a legendary start to a career for
Jamir Gibbs. And by the way, he doesn't turn twenty
four until this offseason, so he has the rest of
the season to break it. And he had a play
that if you're watching, you can watch like see on YouTube.
And man, I feel like we're gonna be playing this
for a long time, making port Dron Bland just touch
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the earth, you know, he.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Put him in the dirt. I mean it was.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
And there's another angle of it where where Bland is
coming at the camera. There it is that's embarrassing, bro.
And that was on the same drive where he's stiff
armed Bland into the ground.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I mean, you want to see a man's ego and
confidence crumble right before their eyes. It's when Bland crumpled
to the turf. There the great Chris Berman used to
make a sound that I can't replicate. There it is
thank you.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
I think actually, right now, Bland, he has to at
least offer his firstborn child to name him.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
You gotta name him Jamir. Why am I.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Why's my name?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Jamiir Dad? Well, there was this guy who played for
the Lions who once absolutely destroyed me on primetime television
when I played football back in the day.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Uh, what a player and what a night.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
I'm really glad that the Lions are gonna be right
in this mix down the stretch. I'm not ruling out
the Cowboys, but Vikings, Chargers at Commanders at Giants. I
just don't trust this team to get through that gauntlet
without stubbing their toe and home for the Chargers is
not an easy game whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
So we'll see. But I like them.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I want them to stay in the mix to at
least when next Sunday Night is basically gonna be an
elimination game for them against the Vikings in primetime. They
did not flex that game out. Well we're gonna get
JJ in primetime one more time.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, that's a bummer. You know, as I think about
these Cowboys is before we go to break here, I'm
conflicted on how to view them right now because and
this is why I bring this question to you. If
you consider all the circumstances that surrounded this team when
they started the season and the way that they went
through the off season and the eventual trade of Michael
Parsons to Green Bay eight eight and one would feel
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kind of like an achievement in Brian shot I know
Cowboys fans expect more and the standard is higher than that,
but do you think that that would be considered a
relatively successful season in Brian Schoenheimer's first year.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
I think Brian Schottenheimer could be considered successful ish, But no,
because it's like the bar is always changing. They're basically
landing where everyone expected them to be all along. They
just got there in the most Cowboys way possible.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
But while claiming that they have Super Bowl ambitions, Okay,
all right.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
That's like they still have four more games to change
our minds. It's a big rest of the season to go.
But this was a disappointing day. Matt Eberflus is going
to get roasted for the next ten days on Dallas
Sports Talk radio, just like he was early in the season.
And a disappointing loss to give up a forty burger,
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Let's take a quick break. We'll be back on the
other side. Wrap it up with a little quarterback talk.
Shookie is the quarterback ranger back on NFL Daily up
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with our favorite time a week and yes it is
time for Quarterback Keeper, presented by Snapdragon. This is where
we talk about Nick Shook's QB Index. He is the
man that makes the quarterback rankings at NFL Network and
they have a big graphic that they put up every
week on social And I used to be the writer
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of QB Index, and so I know Shook that when
this bad boy comes out, it's got Stafford one, May two,
Dak is third. I don't know if he would go
up or down off of tonight. I think you'd stay
about the same. Josh Allen, Patrick, Mahomes, and Herbert all
unchanged this week in the top six. Love that and
you wrap up with love Goff and Baker Mayfield and
then brock Purty all the way up to number ten
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after a nice game that's spicy.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
How much.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Like, hey, are you getting each and every week? And
how much is it gonna come from me right now?
For rank Lamar Jackson number twenty or something?
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Just preposterous? What's going on?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Wait? Give away to the surprise. I actually get a
good amount of hate via Instagram when this is posted
by the Game Day team. It has died down in
recent weeks, which tells me one of two things. Either
people are agreeing with me more or they're just tired
of it.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
In general, I think it's more late in the season
you do see some team's fan bases just die off
a little bit, you know, and so like they're not
as angry.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
But I am.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Let's start with Lamar because every week in this segment,
we're gonna do someone who fell, someone who rose, and
Lamar Jackson. I couldn't believe this shook is ranked below
Kirk Cousins on your list. The same list that had
Rock Purty rise up to the top ten doesn't have
Lamar Jackson in the top twenty. Please explain yourself.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Okay, so people are gonna paint me as he's just
a Lamar hater, He's just a ravens haater. Not true.
Last year when Josh Allen won the m guess who
was number one at the end of the year on
my QB Index Lamar Jackson because he deserved to win MVP.
Big Lamar fan do not like the version of Lamar
we're seeing right now. He is nowhere near who he
is at the peak of his powers. Who the Ravens
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need him to be to reach their potential, and I
know a lot of it has to deal with the
injuries that he's dealt with with his ankles. Right they're
both spatted up fixed spats every week. But his mobility
is almost gone. He cannot separate from rushers anymore. He
doesn't look confident that he can actually turn that into
a weapon again, and I think it's affecting his entire
process as a quarterback. Now. He still makes some good
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throws from time to time, and it didn't affect him
initially when he came back. I think he had like
a four touchdown game when he first came back. But
in the last few weeks he hasn't thrown a touchdown pass.
This offense has struggled mightily, and he is not the
dynamic threat that we've known him to be. And the
weird thing about this exercise is because we have so
many guys going in and out of the rankings, these
numbers are they kind of lie to you. Now, Kirk,
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I thought had one of the better games you're gonna
see from a backup, and that lost to the Jets
this week.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I was shocked by let's calm down Kirk.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Given how bad he was the week before, it's all
relative week by a week.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Yeah, but that's what I wanted to get to, Like,
does the first month of Lamar playing like an MVP
matter at all? Because to me, Lamar Jackson could come
out and he could have a freaky Friday with Tim
Tebow for the rest of the season, and even that
month would have him ahead of Kirk Cousins for the
rest of the season.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Give me a break, shooky.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
And I can say I'm guilty of recency bias. But
because it's a week by week thing, and because his
last game before he had his extended absence was a
nightmare against the Chiefs, partially due to injury, I feel
like that was such a long time ago that I
cannot really justify on a week by week basis that
he should be ahead of even a guy like Kirk Cousins.
And then other reason that he's down this far is
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because we had a number of guys come back from
you know, injury. We had Sieg just Droud come back
from injury, we had Jack and Dart comeback, and we
had Joe Burrow. So that pushes him down three more playss.
I just need one decent competitive game from him, and
he's gonna climb back up. But it's been a very
volatile season for a lot of the household names, and
Lamar is not spared from that.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
He wasn't a total disaster against the Jets. But to
back you up, even though I think this is harsh
on PFF, which I don't hate their QB scoring, I
kind of get what they're what they're doing, giving positives,
giving negatives.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
For each each play.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
It usually does grade out like in a way that
makes sense to me, even even if you disagree with them.
They have multiple people watching each and every play like
that's a useful thing to happen. Like the last two years,
he's been the highest quarterback he's been in the nineties,
ninety four whatever over the last six games, and that's
going all the way back to that Chiefs game you're
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talking about. He has three games in the forties, which is,
you know, worst quarterback in the league territory. I think
that's harsh and everything what I'm talking about it I
would I would guess if you went through his last
five years, you might not find three other games in
the forties.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
And the other game the fifties, he's gonna throw three
picks and it wouldn't have been in the fifties.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I still think it's too much.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
I think at some point, Shook, you got to just
look and you when you're writing down Lamar Jackson and
then you're looking above him and you're seeing the name
Kirk Cousins, and uh, I know, you just gotta just
gotta do it's right, and not.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
That I'm taking You know what, when I when I
get to the process, when I start ranking them, there's
a lot of movement. I'll start writing it, you know what,
that actually doesn't make sense. Five minutes later, I swap
a couple of guys here and there. This one. It
was when I put Lamar down there, I was like, God,
that's really tough. But I have no way to vouch
like to justify that he should be ahead of any
of these guys that are now.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
I would I would give a little more weight to
the first three weeks because even those three weeks, that's
just better than any of these guys at the bottom
have ever done.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
That's fair, but it's also sample size. Think about that too.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
That's fair. Okay, let's talk positive.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Give me a quarterback that went up in the rankings
that you liked watching this week.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Okay, so I said this is a volatile exercise. No
quarterback in the NFL has had a more volatile season
than Bryce Young.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Greg.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
We just watched him play the Niners and look completely overmatched,
as if he couldn't make decisions on time, He couldn't
throw accurate passes, he couldn't maybe even see over the
offensive line. He didn't look confident. It was ugly. The
week before that he torched the Falcons. The week after
that he lights it up again. I don't know who
he is from week to week. He's making throws on
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third and fourth down in tight windows, in big spots
like it's nothing. Incredible accuracy, incredible clutch gene. He threw
two passes of thirty plus yards for touchdowns on fourth
down in this win over the Rams. And it's not
the credit that the fact that he was you know,
he led the Panthers to the win over the Rams, necessarily,
it's how he played in the biggest spots. He looked
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so composed, and it just blows my mind that he
can look so different from one week to the next.
But this week he was excellent, and he was a
big reason why the Panthers got that upset victory.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Totally agree.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
It was a composed perfect game where it's mostly short
stuff against the Rams, but then on fourth down when
they went big play hunting, he hit those big plays.
And that's the thing about Bryce Young. He's a strange
evaluation because his great throws are really great. It's not
like he's a quarterback that you watch and you don't
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think is talented, like he has next level you know,
the way he sees the game and some of the
just hootspa that he can put on some of those shorts.
But then you can have other games like two of
the last four are the forty nine Ers game and
the Saints game, which were just brutal, brutal, and so
that's why it's tough when you're ranking them.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
If I was your editor, you know, I'm a jerk here, I.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Would be like, you got to average it out a
little bit, you know, don't go so much, you know
for week to week. You kind of gotta look at
the big picture, and when you add that all up,
you want a quarterback that is more consistent. So to me, overall,
it's it's been a little below average this season. But
to your point, trending up after an excellent game and
excellent two out of three games, it's just that that
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garbage game in the middle.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
This will, I think give proper context to his current standing.
He climbed twelve spots, by the.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Way, So that's how can someone climb twelve spots this late?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Because there's a lot of movement around him. But consider
the guys he's he's sandwiched by right now, Trevor Lawrence, Yeah,
and Caleb Williams. Yeah, that sounds about right right.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yes, Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Yes, Caleb has had had had his issues, and so
I get why they're in the same area. Have Caleb ahead,
certainly in my mind, Trevor and him are occupying kind
of the same space in the in the sphere.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Maybe your editors are just like afraid of you because.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Of I'm two thousand miles away. I know, but just
take a five hour flight to pose any threat an
imposing figure. Maybe that's it they're just saying.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Or maybe it's just a big workload, or you know what,
we'll go with it.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Maybe it is an enormous workload. You put a lot
of work into it, and I kid here, but no
one does a better job breaking it all down. Maybe
they know also it's good for business to see the rankings.
They would get it, you know, they would get on
me back in the day. I'm like, it's fifteen weeks,
nothing really changed in the top ten, you know, And
they're like, it's boring if you just rerun the same right,
(34:27):
And you.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Know what, I was probably a little more static with
my rankings in previous season than I have been this year.
But I think this year has been one of those
wild years where there's been so much fluctuation that it's justified.
And the inverse of that, on the flip side, is
the fact that, as we showed in the top ten,
the first six guys didn't move. Yes, when I looked
at all their performances, I thought, Dafford's still number one.
May is closer than ever to him, but he's still
(34:48):
number two. Dak had a good game on Thanksgiving. Josh
Allen had a great game, but I can't justify moving
him ahead of Dak right now. And the same is
true for Mahoes and Herbert. Like, there's two sides to
this whole process, but it makes for a lot of
fun debate and some occasionally angry personal attacks to me
via direct message, but that comes with the territory.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Yeah, I apologize for that, but I do think you
have Baker Mayfield too high, so I just had to
come after you pretty hard.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
He was I think he was out of the top
ten last week.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Debbie Heathy should be.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
That was Quarterback Keeper by the Way, presented by Snapdragon.
Learn more at snapdragon dot com slash laptops. All right,
let's get out of here, Shook. We'll be back in
the feed. Thank you for all that you do. We
will have it Shook on covering the Big Bills Bengals
game on Sunday night on the Recap Show. I can't wait.
(35:40):
But before that, we're going to see if the greatest
streaking sports can continue. Can I get the ten straight
winning weeks? Picking against the Number with Cynthia Freeland. That
show will be in the feed on Friday.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
We will see that
Speaker 2 (36:00):
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