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October 28, 2025 38 mins

The Kansas City Chiefs declared their authority over the Washington Commanders with a 28-7 win on Monday Night Football. Gregg Rosenthal and Nick Shook not only recap the highlights of the night, but also provide insights into several trade targets that could "likely" end up on new football teams before the NFL Trade Deadline.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On the short side of the field.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
The homestakes the snap at his left knee, keeping the
feet alive, sings it late for the upside.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
A touchdown Kansas City and Travis Kelsey with the catch.
Now times Priest Holmes for the most touchdowns in Kansas
City Chiefs history. A ten yard strike and the Chiefs
have they're coveted second half, two possession league.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Great call there by Mitch Poltis. How many times have
we heard him calling a Travis Kelcey touchdown on NFL
Daily and around the NFL back in the day. Well,
probably not eighty three times, but yes, he has now
tied the all time record in the storied history of

(00:47):
the Kansas City Chiefs. That was a highlight from a
great second half of football by the Chiefs. They win
twenty eight to seven against the Washington Commanders and the
Chiefs are looking like one of the best teams in
the league. Commanders are looking like a team without great future.
It's a big night in sports, Chookie, So we got
to stay focused here and we appreciate everyone watching us

(01:11):
live on YouTube. We're gonna get to some trade talk
a little bit later, hitting the five most interesting trade
targets with the deadline coming up. But first we gotta
give Travis Kelce Kansas City Chiefs and this offense. They're
flowers for that three touchdown performance in the second half
on Monday night.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah, and I feel like I'm going to sound like
a bit of a broken record because every time we
do a Chiefs game on here, it's just like, yeah,
their offense is awesome. Like the Chiefs are for real.
They're one of the best teams in the NFL. We
can all stop pretending like they're not. And this is
another example of that. And the beauty of it, I
think for Chiefs fans who are looking for something additional
to get excited about is the fact that they overcame

(01:50):
a slow first half. They overcame a Washington defense that
suddenly played blanket coverage, which is not usually what they do,
and then rolled to victory Cruz to a win. It
was so out of hand, it was so decided that
I had time to get four of my five points
done already for what we learned, that's a win for me.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
Yeah, that's a little peek behind the curtain. Shook it
is writing normally on Monday nights, but he loves our
audience so much, you know, he puts that on hold
and finishes it after we're done. And it did feel
inevitable at that point when Travis Kelce scored the touchdown.
But you mentioned it. The first half of this game.
They pick off Patrick Mahomes twice in the first quarter,

(02:30):
I believe, one off of a fantastic play by Marshawn Laddimore.
You're thinking, Okay, that's the type of play you're gonna
need to beat the chief. And once off a little
bit of luck off a drop by Travis Kelce, But
that was really the last mistake Kelsey would make. He
ends up catching six balls for over ninety yards tonight
and had for the second time in two games since

(02:53):
Worthy and Rushie Riser on the field. Just a play
where the defense completely forgets about Travis Kelce and he's
just walking down the field. And I was thinking, late
third quarter as this turned into a blowout, that Marcus
Mariota played well in this game, that they stopped Patrick
Mahomes and got two interceptions off him in the first half,

(03:15):
and yet they still got blown out. And that just
shows what a difference these two teams were. What do
you think the biggest difference was between the Commanders and
the Chiefs today.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
I mean, not capitalizing on the turnovers that you forced
early in the game is a big part. You know,
not having a kicker that you could trust well enough
when you're in field goal rangers. You got there and
try and hit a relatively long field goal to get
you three or six points, which would have made it
more interesting, which would have probably given you either a
one point deficit or a halftime lead. That's one of
the big things. But you can't blame it on the
fact that you don't have your regular kicker available because
he's hurt. Well, you can blame it on well, actually,

(03:46):
you can blame a lot of it on injuries. If
you think about it. They don't have Jayden Daniels return
to Marcus Mariota, a plus backup in this league. Like
you said, played well in this game. The stat line
lies to you because two picks were garbage time. He
was largely competent in this game, and also through the
craziest moonball I've ever seen from a play that originated
the eleven yard line the plus eleven yard line ever,

(04:06):
the ball on his touchdown pass to Terry McLaurin hung
in the hair for two point four seconds, okay, from
a play that started at the eleven. The ball was
in the air for almost two and a half seconds.
That's insane. He tried his best. Their defense came out
and brought the fight to the Chiefs, but ultimately over
four quarters. Unless you capitalize early, they are going to
overwhelm you because they are one of the best teams

(04:28):
in the NFL, and they are inevitable.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
They're pretty complete right now. And since you brought it up,
and we're gonna get to kind of the huge mismatch,
I thought between the Chiefs offensive line and a ragged
looking Washington defense, that to me, I think that's gonna
be the death now for their season. They have no
pass rush. But since you mentioned the Mariota throw, it
was nice having scary Terry back. He had a number

(04:51):
of impressive plays tonight. Let's hear that touchdown call. You
might need to look at this stake, don't.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Here's a snap to Mariota, he steps back, he throws up.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
He's got it a the corner.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
The other can he keep his state in.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
After reviewing the plane, it is a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Let's go scary carry a rise.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
It is so good, Havan Briham Weinstein back on the show,
and that was London Fletcher in a great job by
our producer Chris Babona tying that all together. Because yes,
it was not called a touchdown initially upon review, they
made it happen and Terry had an outrageous catch on
the sideline later in the game. If you're looking for

(05:34):
some positives, he ends up with three catches for fifty
four yards and a touchdown in this game, and their
offense is just going to be better with him. So
you mentioned interesting like timing of how long that ball
was in the air, and yeah, Mario to put too
much air under that on in a game where he
was almost flawless through three quarters and it still didn't
really matter that that made it a little too hard

(05:55):
on his receiver. Also flawless was Mahomes after that first quarter.
But yeah, like they made it easy for him. He
had three touchdowns tonight shook where he held the ball
over four seconds. That's the first time that has happened
in Mahomes' career according to Next Gen Stats. And if
you give Patrick Mahomes that much time, you're just dead.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, it speaks to what you said, which is that
the Commanders have no pass rush, and it was very
visible pretty much all night for him. But it also,
I think kind of underscores the annoying part of their
offense for most defenses, which is that just when you
think you have everything covered, somebody slips out of the
backfield or Travis Kelsey just slips out into open field
and they complete a pass for a big game. It

(06:35):
happened twice. It happened on that Kelsey completion that moved
him into scoring range, and then it also happened on
the touchdown pass to Kareem Hunt, where Mahomes drops, he looks,
he pauses, nobody's open, Like the first three options are
not open. Oh, and there's Kareem Hunt leaking out of
the backfield for a wide open touchdown. That is why
they're so difficult to defend and why Mahomes is the
perfect quarterback for that, because lesser quarterbacks don't keep their

(06:56):
eyes moving, aren't able to maybe break a pocket and
improvise like he does. And it's what completes them. That
and the return of Rashi Rice, who has made this
offense just another level or two better. He is so dynamic,
he's such an important weapon for this offense, and that's
why people should be afraid of the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Let's listen to that touchdown to Kareem Hunt, and to me,
that's the signature Patrick Mahomes play, which is like you said,
stay in calm, but then ultimately putting a defender into
an impossible run pass conflict where if they the defender
did not go after Mahomes and stayed with Hunt, then
Mahomes would have just run it in.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Chiefs are going forward fourth and goal of to two
ten nineteen to go, third quarter, seven seven time, Hunt
the running back snap to Mahomes retreating moving to is
right now pump faking sounds a light.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Wide off on touchdown Chanza City Kareem Hunch because his
eighteenth receiving touchdown, the Chiefs take the lead on the
second touchdown of the night for Kareem Hunch.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
And shout out to Mitch Holtis for just knowing off
the top of his head he's got a spot her there. Maybe,
but how could they be that fast that he is
eighteen receiving touchdowns? Incredible and that was on fourth down
and it's one of the points I really wanted to
make tonight. Andy Reid has found fourth down religion, and
with this offense specifically, it just changes how dangerous they

(08:25):
are because Andy Reid has left so many points on
the board in the history of Patrick Mahomes his career
with the Chiefs, and he's no longer doing that. They
went for a fourth down in their own end in
the first quarter of this game. It was I think
around the forty two or so, you know, on their
own side, and they went for it and they picked
it up easily with the run. That was the driver

(08:46):
where Mahomes got picked off later. But it's giving them
literally extra scoring opportunities because for the rest of Andy
Reid's career until basically this year, maybe a little last year,
he was kicking a field goal there and it just
makes them even better.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, he has embraced modern football, I think, not that
finally behind in any capacity except on fourth down decisions.
And it scares me as somebody who would look at
the Chiefs and being like, all right, so how do
they get off the field here, Because they're already really
difficult to get off the field on third down. You
get him to fourth down, you feel like you've won
the Super Bowl against them. Sometimes now they're going forward

(09:20):
on fourth down, like that touchdown passed the Kreem Hunt.
That's a fourth and goal situation in a tie game,
and they don't even think twice about it early third
quarter because they trust all the options that they have
and it's what makes them, you know, one of the
most intimidating offenses in the league. And not only that,
but also how they can do it. And I keep
thinking about, all right, so what's the difference between this
Chiefs team and last year? Why is their offense suddenly

(09:42):
back to being a well oiled machine like they were
in the Tyreek Hill days. There's two parts to it.
One is the offensive line. It is so much better
than it was last year. We talked a lot about
Josh Simmons taking that left tackle role, but it's not
just him. They're protecting well, they are blocking for the
run well. They have a number of skilled runners that
can capitalize on that, whether it's Hunt, Pacheco the rookie

(10:03):
as well back there. And then it's also, like I said,
Rashid Rice, because you have so many different options and
so many people can leak out one way or the other.
That it's almost impossible to defend because it makes you
defend the entire field because Mahomes is a scrambler as well. Man,
I can't say enough good things about them. They're fun
to watch, and they're gonna be a tough out for
anybody in this league.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
That's what I was asking for coming into this season.
Just just make Patrick Mahomes fun again. What the you know,
the best quarterback I've ever seen enter the league and
it was a tough watch for a couple of years.
You mentioned Josh Simmons, he's still out with a personal issue.
Just reading between the lines, it doesn't sound like they're
going to have their left tackle, their rookie back for
a while. Early in this game, Jacob Martin of the

(10:45):
Commanders actually gave Jalen Moore, the left tackle the Chiefs
the business a couple times, but it was really just
a couple of plays. When I looked at the end
of the first half, they had four QB hits in
the first half, which is amazing. That was their only
four pressures of the first half. And then you go
to the end of the game, they're at twenty two
percent pressure rate, which is very low, especially considering Patrick

(11:08):
Mahomes was just holding the ball forever, like his average
time to throw was. You know, as long as this
recap is going to be, it just felt like that
he had all day to throw and he still wasn't
getting pressured. They're trying to play zone and they just
don't have answers, and you know, we appreciate everyone in
the chat, you know right now, well you know, I
admit it. We got the World Series on and Babona

(11:30):
is getting on me because if you watch on YouTube,
like I might have some wandering eyes, but we're pros
over here and we can focus on multiple things at once,
just like you know Patrick Mahomes did. But I just
don't know where this Commander's team is going. And we
have we have a comment from one of the Commanders
fans who said, I'm officially done with football for twenty

(11:52):
twenty five. Just cancel the whole Commander's season at this point.
It's like, I get being a fan is tough, and
you look at the schedule. They're home for the Seahawks
in the Lions the next two weeks. They're going to
have to pull off in upset and they can do it,
but they're gonna have to pull off an upset in
one of those two games took or they're three and seven,

(12:14):
and it just feels like, Yeah, I don't think you
should cancel the season. I think there's a lot to
be gained by watching Jade Daniels play football. There are
positive things here, but I do think this pass rush
in particular, and like the rest of the lack of
team speed is gonna kind of kill this team in
the long run.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
How do you stop Sam Darnold to get after him?
How do you stop Jared godf you get him off
the spot. They're not going to generate that in either
of those games. Not to give you a complete like
woe is me. The sky is falling out look for
the Commanders, but the challenges are going to be great.
And also I'm not a doctor, but Jane Daniels has
a hamstring injury. I don't think he's going to come
back from that very quickly, and if he does, it's
a risk, as we all know with the history of

(12:51):
hamstring injuries. So it's gonna be difficult for this team
to battle through the toughest portion of their schedule, which
started tonight and continues for the next two weeks, even
though you get Miami in week eleven. They also just
went to Atlanta and dropped the bomb on the Falcons
again bye week in week twelve, which is timely but
might be even too late for that. Then and then
you come out and you play Denver. I mean, you'd
have to really run the table down the back half

(13:12):
of this schedule to be able to make the playoffs,
which is a bummer because this was one of the
most exciting stories in the NFL last year Daydon Daniels
and the turnaround of the Commanders and everything else. But
the signs were evident with this defense. Their age, they're
just kind of slow. Even when they fight hard in
the first half the night, they crumble under the weight
of the pressure over four quarters. It's gonna be a
tough ride for them.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
They lost Javon Kinlaw during this game to an injury,
and he's been okay, not worth the money that they
gave him, but one of their better defensive linemens, certainly
Deron Pain has been the best one, along with Doordan's
Armstrong who's now out for the year. So it's just
adding injury to insul Laramie Tunsel, their great left tackle
also left this game, was in and out during the

(13:55):
first half. He has a hamstring injury. He did not
return for the second half, so they had their second
year player, Brandon Coleman at left tackle. Before we just
move on totally from this game, and like I said,
we're going to talk quickly on some trade candidates before
we get out of here. In just previewing the trade
deadline that's coming up in a couple of weeks. I

(14:16):
just I just made a list of things in ways
they let Marcus Mariota down. You ready for it?

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Okay, Remember Tone got hurt. That's just bad luck. Laramie
Tunzel got hurt. Uh. Jeremy Lane, I keep going to
call him Jeremy Lane, Jalen Lane. Jeremy Lane was a
Seahawks third receiver similar slot slot player.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Was not to be confused with not to be confused
with Jeremy Lynn.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Yeah back in the day. But Jalen Lane had a
drop on third down that led to the very first
punt of the entire game between either team, and that
was midway through the third quarter. So when the Commanders
were trying to match that fourth down touchdown by the Chiefs,
he has a drop on a nice play by Mariota.
The Commanders go for fourth and six early. He makes
a really nice play and look, zach Ertz made a

(15:03):
good play, but he ends up coming up five inches short,
which I don't know if you were watching the broadcast,
but there was like an unfortunate graphic where it just said,
you know, five inches short, and you know the meme.
You know, they had it. They were having their fun
with it.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
They're gonna run, They're gonna run their heads with that. Yeah, no,
because it was a bad spot.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
That should have been Oh you thought it was a
bad spot. I also saw Yeah, the internet also did
it where they were replaced short with average. But that's
just up to you. We're getting wild here Nick at night.
You thought it was a bad spot though.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah it was. It was a bad spot, and it
was a rough night for the stripes. Not gonna lie.
They missed a lot of calls, they had to go
to review a lot of times. There were some things
where you're like, what did you just not look at
it when it happened? That was one of them.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
Okay, more letdowns for Mariota, Deebo, Samuel and I think
this was one of the biggest plays in the game.
Let's a pass go right through his hands then off
his helmet for an intercepted on the first drive of
the game in the red zone, and they were humming.
That was the best the running game looked all night.
They had a great opening script. Mariota was running a lot,
and that is officially the most embarrassing way that you

(16:11):
can drop a pass is to drop a pass have
it go through your hands, off the helmet for an interception.
So that hurt Mariota there as well. And then they
had a third and long late when they still had
a little bit of a chance down a couple scores
on a third and long, and the two blockers in
front of them, it was Sam Cosmy and Josh Carnelly,

(16:32):
just let Mike Dana, the defensive end for the Chief
just go completely free and sack them on a third
and long. And you saw the frustration Mariota just slamming
the ball or slamming his hand on the ground afterwards,
and I felt bad for him. I got a text
before tonight from our friend Nick Westling, and he was remembering,
you know what a big fan of Mariota. Chris Westling

(16:54):
was back in the day says he's going to be
watching and rooting and showing how Mariota is better than
Jameis Winston, that Chris was right all those years ago.
And I gotta say, Mariota's playing pretty well, playing better
than Jameis Winston right now.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Even if it was all, yeah, you're right, and if
I had to choose been the backups, I'm obviously taking Mariota.
It's kind of depressing that the top two picks of
that draft are now just better than backups, but that
is life in the NFL. It's also this game tonight
was played at the place where Mariota once made one
of those heroic plays where he caught his own batted
pass and scored a touchdown, which was cool, you know
back in the day when he was Titan.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Very good point man. This Chiefs team, I I know
we've been talking them up and I and it just
seems obvious, But when I've had conversation with people, like,
you know, friends of like my son's dad's at school
or my family earlier tonight, and I mentioned to them like,

(17:47):
oh yeah, I think I think the Chiefs are the favorites.
I think they're going to the super Bowl, Like if
I think they're gonna I think they're the number one
favorite right now, and they're like really I thought. My
daughter was like really, I thought this is the year
they're supposed to be bad. Therefore three no, no, no, no,
it's not that way. But we'll find out for sure
the next three weeks at Buffalo, by at Denver, and

(18:10):
then home for the Colts. So I love that it's
not gonna get easy. You're probably not gonna run that
table either, But that is as tough an AFC schedule.
If you were gonna pick the four prime contenders in
the AFC, I actually think those would be my four.
Apologies to my New England Patriots at this point, I
would say, Bill's Broncos Colts. That's about as tough as

(18:31):
slate as you could have.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
You know, just when I start to lose faith in
the schedule makers for the Monday night doubleheaders or the
occasional little clunker of a primetime game, they come back
and they they redeem themselves by giving me exactly what
I thought as I was riding tonight. God, I would
love to see the Chiefs play the Colts.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
Right now.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
We're gonna get that soon enough. I'm excited for that one.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
Can we flex that in? That is a one pm
game on the East Coast, a ten am game that'll
at least get moved to later in the afternoon, but
I want that as a as a night game. We
should start doing the Monday night flexes. We got Arizona
Dallas next week. Don't really need that, but yeah, this
team's just different with Richie, rice Worthy and Kelsey on

(19:13):
the field. Okay, let's wrap this show with a different
sort of segment. We got the trade deadline coming up
in a couple of weeks, and shook. I just thought
it would be interesting to go through who you think
are the most interesting realistic candidate. We'll actually go back
and forth, so we'll do about five or six, depending

(19:34):
on if I want to. You know, jam one in
and why don't you get going the most interesting trade
candidates you think that are going to be available for
the deadline.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
I'm always the guy that lets the other driver go
at the four way stop, but I'll take the lead here.
It's nice.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
I mean, is that because you're big? Is that because
you got the bodybuilder's body that you're just like, Oh,
I'll just be the nice guy to make up for it.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yes, you know you got to balance the two out
can be intimidating physically, but you got to be, you know,
a warm hearted individual, right, Not such a warm hearted scenario,
though they did have a nice, warm hearted moment in
Cincinnati on Sunday. We're going to the New York Jets
because fresh off of his eighteen carry, one hundred and
thirty three yard two touchdown performance, I think Breese Hall
is going to remain in the trade conversations. Why because

(20:21):
he is a pending free agent, and he is a
player who burst onto the scene emphatically but has not
been consistent, you know, his last performance, notwithstanding over the
course of his first few seasons with the Jets, and
it feels like they are a team that is, or
at least was willing to go more to brayln Allen
that Reese Hall would have less of a role in

(20:42):
this offense. It just feels like if they're going to
try to get some sort of capital back, he is
an option for them to move given that they probably
don't want to pay him in the offseason, and fresh
off of a performance like that, you could consider that
the price might go up if he starts to do
this consistently, which would make it a tougher, you know,
a more difficult decision. But they are one in seven,
so it's not like they're really playing for this year,
so I think he'd be a quality candidate. It's not

(21:04):
often that you see teams really trying to upgrade their
backfield at the deadline. It's more of like we need
a playmaking receiver. But I could see him being dangled
out there for interested teams.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Hey, Howie Roseman gave up two picks for Tank Bigsby
earlier this season. Granted they were late picks.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
But a nice job.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
I think brist Hall is a real offensive weapon that
is absolutely attainable and could change in like a structure
of a team's entire identity. Not that you're going to
build the offense around him, but we're seeing the best
offense in the league have three, four, five guys who

(21:41):
can be explosive, And you're right. I was thinking watching
their game today, what an offensive performance, first of all,
but just thinking, oh wow, that this could be the
last Bretall game because they're they have a buye and
the trade deadline will happened before their next by here's
the problem. You said teams don't normally trade for running backs,

(22:04):
and that's true. There aren't that many logical teams out there.
As the Dodgers get a big time out at third base,
we're announcing this live. When you listen to this tomorrow,
It's not gonna make any sense whatsoever, But why not
get excited.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
I have I have a candidate for a team that
he could go to. Now great I had won, had Okay,
go go, I'm gonna I'm gonna send him to the Chargers
because they are gonna get on Omrion Hampton back, but
their current state of their backfield, as much as we
love Commandi Vidal, they could use a guy like Breize
Hall to really open up that running game a little
bit more and give Herbert more time to throw.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Okay, okay. I thought about that, and then I just
kind of mentally crossed them off because I'm like, well,
Hampton will be back, but it's a rental and and
it's fire and ice, you know it. I know Hampton
is an explosive player, but they're they're different kinds of
exactly explosive players. I don't see that one as much

(22:59):
the two. I thought of was Washington, I actually think
would have been the most logical, and I absolutely think
the Commanders.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Would be They have to be desperate enough to do that.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
And still can be buyers potentially, but they might have
to win next week. The problem is they're now three
and five, and if they're three and six, it just
seems a little insane for them to be buyers at
the deadline. But they are the type of team that
I think would do it, and they think they would
have the need. As much as I've liked you know,
Bill Krofsky, Merrits work. They just need explosive playmakers on

(23:29):
that offense, and I think Adam Peters would would do it.
The Broncos are the other team. The problem is, you know, JK.
Dobbins is good. R. J. Harvey's a youngster and is good.
Are you really going to give up a draft pick?
And that raises the question, like what pick does it
have to be for the Jets to actually give it up,
because I'm not trading Bristol for a fourth round pick?

(23:52):
Like what's the point? I don't know, like that would
be a good outcome for the Jets, but really, what's
the point. You're not going to do better. I actually
would propose to the Jets just keep Resall in franchise,
dag them. Franchise tags are so that, like I'd rather
have Brisall for eleven or twelve million dollars next year.
You have plenty of cap space and not have to

(24:12):
worry about replacing him. You're not gonna do better than that,
But that's my opinion. I actually do think he is
about as likely as any good player to get traded.
So I agreed with you. I had item as my
number one pick too. Okay, okay, I'll go Rereek Wooland
just because it's just been out there so long and
I've seen it written. I also heard about it myself

(24:36):
separately that it's just like teams know that he's potentially available,
and so I just thought it'd be an interesting exercise.
And it's weird because they're not, like, they don't have
huge names in their secondary, especially because they've had injuries
like playing for him, like Josh Job is out there.
But let's say they do trade him. Man, A lot
of teams need cornerbacks. The Eagles love a big, fast,

(24:57):
strong athlete, and I could see them doing that with
Seattle trade in the conference. Yeah, I think they would
if they didn't Wantrequal And and then you look at
the Bills and the Ravens. I think are two other
teams that would be open to adding a cornerback, especially
the Bills who are are still playing trade devious way.
I know they got Maxwell Harrison back, but I think
that would be a really interesting fit.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, I see no issues of this. I thought many
of the Colts might be a candidate to add a cornerback.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
Yeah, that's a good call.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, I don't think that the need is as drastic
as Buffalo, but I very much feel strongly that this
could be a potential trade candidate for wherever he goes,
because like after Week one, they were talking about rekwul
And potentially getting benched because he, you know, was on
the wrong end of a couple of crucial plays and
that loss to the forty nine ers in Seattle to
open the season, and they've had a lot of like

(25:44):
shuffling in their secondary. They've had to play games without
Devin Witherspoon. They were excited to play Josh Job. He
got more snaps after the first couple of weeks. It
feels like Rerek Wolan has fallen out of favor there.
The match with the Eagles makes a lot of sense
based on archetype, but I don't know if necessarily based
on another one more team I thought about. That just
kind of crossed my mind as we're talking about this,
even though they had a fantastic performance from a bunch

(26:05):
of no names. Is the Detroit Lions because they have
been banged up in their secondary as well.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Yes, and I think they are a team. There's only
a handful that are really fit the profile where they're
going to be super aggressive, and I think I think
they would make sense. I think the Colts make a
lot of sense, actually, even more than the Bills. In
the Ravens, I did not think of them. The Bears
are another team where they're just so the in that cornerback,
but I don't think they would be trading for one

(26:31):
right now. The interesting thing about Rik Willen and potentially
Breese Hall is it doesn't have to be a one
year thing like Greek Willon's not at the end, and
that you know, you could always tag them, You could
come up with a contract long term Breese Hal. Specifically, if,
for instance, the Commanders wanted to trade for Breese Hall.
They could look at it as like a year and
a half deal where they're paying them very cheap money
for this half of a year, the franchise tag game

(26:52):
next year, and then you figure it out after that.
All right, you go with your next pick or should
we go to one of One of our commentaris suggested
Jacoby coming home to New England. What the heck was
that one of yours?

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah, I'm going to weigh in on that. I don't
think he comes home to New England, but I think
he has a trade candidate because everything's going so poorly
with the Raiders. I mean, they just added Tyler Lockett,
like they're just grass being at Straws here right now.
And Jacoby wanted that contract before the season started. He
didn't get it. He was essentially told no, and he
was just like, Okay, I'm gonna play then with the
direction the Raiders are headed, and I could very much

(27:25):
see them being sellers and Jacoby Myers being the first
asset they tried to move, And I where does he
fit because like, he's not a huge difference maker that
would that would command the attention of the Buffalo Bills,
for example, that's the first team I think if they
could use a receiver. Yeah, but anybody who's needing a
receiver and would like to add a veteran talent, they
could upgrade with him. I just don't think there's a

(27:45):
need for him in New England right now?

Speaker 4 (27:47):
Right? I agree. Ultimately, I had a hard time finding
a fit for Jacoby, Like he wouldn't make their team better,
but not.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
If it's I mean the Day three pick for him, right, and.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
I think they would. Just maybe the Raiders are signaling
that they're ready to trade him by signing Tyler Lockett,
which to me is indefensible.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Are you getting the band back together? Baby?

Speaker 4 (28:13):
Just honestly, it makes me wonder about the direction of
the Raiders. Tyler Lockett was borderline unplayable this year. Yeah,
and just what are you doing? Why are you doing it?

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Just why?

Speaker 4 (28:26):
I don't want Pete Carroll making the decisions either personnel wise,
you know, I don't think that is his strength, like
coach them up. The Steelers and the Seahawks were two
teams I thought Jacoby Myers could help. That made sense
to me. I think the Steelers could be looking for
a receiver, you know, Jacoby would be a strong two
there as a wide out. Yeah, and then Seattle, you know,

(28:47):
not as necessary, kind of can't see it as obviously,
but Tory Horton is there as their you know, third
wide receiver as a rookie. I think I think Jacoby
is ultimately better than Cooper Cup at this stage of
his Grier. It's not a move I can imagine them making,
but if he's taking those Tory Horton snap that that
would help their team. All Right, that's three guys.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
I like that. I like that. I'll give you number four.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
David Ajoku. We've talked about him before. It just with
the toxicity that surrounds the Browns after they lose every
game or a game every week, almost every game. And
maybe it's because I live in Cleveland and I just
can't escape it, but like, oh my god, is it
bad here when they lose games. Obviously, the narrative all
across the country after Sunday is lost is Miles Garrett's trapped.

(29:33):
He took the money and now he's losing. This is
unfair to him and all that stuff. But I think
about David Joku's in He's an expiring player. He's gonna
be free agent for this year, his contract includes twenty
four million because of a void year, so it's dead
money for next year. The Browns are not going to
keep him because they have to continue reshuffling their cap
and extending guys out further to account for the Watson deal,
which thankfully you know, we'll expire after I believe next year.

(29:56):
They drafted Harold Fannin. I know Kevin's fancy likes to
use a two tight end sets. He does it a
lot right now. It's not necessarily that you drafted Harold
fan and to replace David Adjoku, but if you're going
to be a seller, as they've been very often this season,
he seems like the next guy on the list to move.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
That's a great call. I think he's very likely. We
tried to keep it likely guys on this list because
I've seen Quinn Williams thrown out there and rich Samdia
ESPN says it would only be for you know, a
huge offer, and it's like, okay, there are a lot
of guys like that and that that would be interesting.

(30:35):
Would a team give up a first plus for Quentin
Williams right now? For instance? Like I guess it is possible,
but it doesn't seem as realistic to me, because the
Jets would be insane to trade Quinn Williams for anything
less than that. Just what is what is the point?
You want to be good in the next two or
three years, And I think Quinn Williams can still be
that guy. But if you've got a godfather off, for
sure you would think about it. In Djoku on the

(30:56):
other hand, like he gone, I think it's happening. I'm
glad you brought up the gear thing before it before
we go.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, that's that. That don't get me started on that.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
Okay everyone, and I see it on so so everyone
that's like, this is what he's signed up for. Hey,
he can't complain. Hey, it's like he when he signed
that forty million dollars deal, this is what he said.
It's like, okay, we all know that he knows that.
It doesn't mean he can't get frustrated exactly while he's
playing his ass off, Like that's what any competitor would

(31:27):
possibly get. Oh, this is what he signed up for.
It's like like he knows it, but he's just out
there competing and he's playing at an incredibly high level
and he decided to sign up for it, and you
haven't heard him make any complaints about like I made
a mistake or did anything like that. To just shut up,
just for some reason, the type of person that feels
the need to point that out every time anything happens

(31:49):
a he's like, hey, he deserves this, he freaking he's
one of the greatest players ever. But he thinks because
he's signed, like like you would do anything different first
of all, and just just shut up.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
We as a sporting audience and as a society, really
a Western society, we always have to choose sides. We
can't ever just live in the middle. We can't say
both things are true that yes he did take the money,
Yes he you know, is committed to the contract, but
yes he's also has a right to feel frustrated and trap.
Just let the guy live, let him be mad. There's

(32:19):
way the Monday morning quarterbacking is on steroids, especially when
it comes to local media. And then just for me,
I'm like, I know you gotta fill your show. I
get it, but you don't need to be so hot
with your takes. Just let it run.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
I'm not even talking local media. So I'm glad that
it's true. All over the place. Oh yeah, I'm like
reading tweets from people I respect sometimes national media, it's
just it's just stupid.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, it's like we.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Get it, bro, last one, I mean, we should do
the most interesting one. I was listening to all Phy
Yes the Eagles podcast.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
I'm so glad we are so on the same page, right.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
I mean everyone on that show asked the question, will
AJ Brown beyond the team after the trade deadline? And
these are people that know the team better than anyone,
Bo Wolf, Vinnie Curry who was on the team, you know, Frandum,
and they're just they're not sure, Like they're just not sure.

(33:16):
They they don't none, No one wants A J. Brown
to be traded obviously, the roots for the team that's
with the team when push comes to shove, like if
they if they have to guess, they're like they guessed
that he'll stay, but it's like a real thing, and
it really feels like if it's if he stays on
the team, it's gonna be his last season there. And

(33:37):
he's just making it clear, almost pushing them, almost daring
them to trade him. And then they have, you know,
a great offensive performance without him. It's it's an open question,
and it is fascinating that it feels like such an
open question even though they're obviously Super Bowl contenders.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
It's the Eagles are unique in that they are victims
of their own success and are the worst team in
the NFL at managing the drama that comes with that success.
I don't think we've seen a team with so much
unnecessary controversy around them in this era of teams. I mean,

(34:15):
the Patriots were like was like off field stuff. I
would have to go back to like the nineties Cowboys
with the Jimmy Johnson stuff and going to Berry Switzer
to think about drama off the field.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
That's you're right, you're right, But the Aj Brown thing.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Look, you're dealing with a receiver, and receivers tend to
be divas. And I understand that you're not getting the
numbers and and the looks that you want. But it's
every week with them, win or lost. They beat Minnesota
in a hard fought win I felt was, you know,
not the most impressive win, but was important for them
at that time. And his body language after he scored
that first touchdown, it looks like he was exhausted by

(34:49):
it himself, like.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
Oh, you don't even want to know what's going on.
Don't even if anyone wants to go down the rabbit hole.
Just check out what's been going on with the social media.
And there's been some unliking and like and deleting even
even further during this week. And then he was, yeah,
let's say I'm not gonna say mysteriously on the injury report,
but he did finish the week before and we didn't
know he was hurt. And yeah, I don't think it's

(35:12):
that crazy to just be like, oh, well, that was
interesting ahead of the buye that he he didn't make
make that move. So I'm fascinated. I don't I really
have no idea who would go after It's like Pittsburgh
can't go for another big time wide receiver. I think
the Patriots would make a lot of sense in this scenario,
but it's anyone's guess who would.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Oh, you know what, my magic scenario as he goes
to the Bills, the Bills just give up like a
godfather offer to get him just because we have to
keep up with the Chiefs. Go get him.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
That actually makes sense, and it would keep the t
O and J Brown like comparisons absolutely perfect because if
you remember when to did everything in the dryway, that
was after they made the Super Bowl, after he had
that heroic performance in the Super Bowl. Now they didn't
win it back in the day, but kind of similar

(36:06):
vibes coming off of a great season. All Right, those
are our five most interesting trade candidates, and we're going
to wrap the show here with our favorite segment, and
it's time for Who Delivered by presented by Uber Eats.
And yeah, I'll give it to Rashi Rice. Did he
have a fumble today? Oh no, he had a touchdown

(36:26):
that was overturned right on the goal line. But he
does finish with nine catches ninety three yards, and he
did have a fumble. He ran a beautiful touchdown that
was right. That was one of those moments where you thought,
if the Commanders are going to win this game, Marshaun
Latimer needs to fall in that fumble and not try
to pick it up. But man, I know Worthy and

(36:49):
Kelsey matter a ton. It's I think the combination of
everyone that's going to make them special. But if I
had to pick up most valuable, I actually do think
it's for she Rice. Why don't we listen to one
more clip Yes, it's Patrick Mahomes's last touchdown of the night.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Commanders second down and eight for the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Mahomes in the pocket, pump faking twice.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
Those at Lake cod LUTs sign Rice angling touchdown, transa
City an eighteen yard touchdown pass and Russie Rice finds
the end zone.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Again. That was who Delivered presented by Uber Eats. When
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Now that's it, Rushy Rice, get ready, rest of the NFL.
I know, I know you don't want to hear it. Chokie,
thank you for doing it well, and now i'll I'll

(37:45):
free you to go finish your article and finish watching
this game of baseball. Like it's kind of like the
Garrett thing, like why not have both. You can love football,
you can love basketball. You can appreciate that it was
the Celtics. I mean, that's the biggest thing that happened tonight.
And you can love baseball too.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
You could be in Cleveland, but sneak a Dodger tat
in your background for those of you watching on YouTube.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
See that back there. Yeah, I know we've we've both
you know you lived in LA for a while. I've
been here too long. Great night of sports, Great night
for the Chiefs. We will be back on Tuesday. Excited
about the show. We love something you know lot the scoopy,
so Bordon, Rob Reid that the next show in your feed.

(38:28):
Appreciate everyone hanging out with us on this Monday night.
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