Week 1 Recap Includes a Sunday Night Classic!

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to the NFL Daily, where we're trying not to
be overwhelmed in the best way possible by the Week
one explosion of football.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'm Greg Rosenthal.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Here in the Chris Westling podcast studio, joined by my
friend Patrick Claiban, and from across the country in Cleveland,
it is the man the Nick Shook. Yes, we we
wait over two hundred days for football and then we
get one game on Thursday, we get one game on Friday,
and then suddenly there were just eight games happening at

(00:36):
the same time in the early window. It almost it
almost feels like too much. But it's not too much better, No.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
It's not too much.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
When you when you're when you're a shark, all you
do is swim and eat and that's what we do.
And Shook it was time to do both on Sunday
today and I loved it.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
I didn't even neat caffeine this morning.

Speaker 5 (00:52):
Swim, eat, use your gills to process oxygen that cutter.

Speaker 6 (00:55):
Yeah, we did it all.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
And uh, I guess in this case to just monitor
all the wrong assumptions you made throughout the offseason and
definitely with your Week one pick. So this show, if
you listen last year. It's our favorite one of the week.
It's our big show, and it's gonna include Jordan Rodrieg
every week she was over at the RAMS Game Show.
She's gonna join us for the third segment of the

(01:19):
show to talk Rams in more games then, but for
now we're talking the biggest game of the day, maybe
not the best game of the day, but the most
decisive to Lambeau.

Speaker 7 (01:28):
Now, Love motions Jacobs to his left tight end.

Speaker 8 (01:31):
Tucker Craft left side of the line, hands the lonely
chilling blitz off the left edge.

Speaker 7 (01:35):
Here's the snapped the Love throws right out of the ends. Touchdown,
Dan Reid, Carter the Enzo.

Speaker 9 (01:41):
They beat Terry ont Arnold again and a Lambeau leap
to the north end zone stands for Jayden Reid.

Speaker 7 (01:49):
It's sixteen to three Green Bay.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
That was Wayne Lara Vie on WRNW Man. It feels
good to be back here on a Sunday evening hearing
Larry Mccaarrn just screaming out for a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
That's what we love.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Full two seconds before Reid catches the ball, he's celebrating
the touchdown.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
That's how locked in Jordan Love.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Was and how locked in Larry was. But I think
that was typical because early portions of this game there
are wide open receivers schemed up, great job by Matt Lafleur,
and just absolutely perfect passes by Jordan Love often on
third down Shook where you kind of knew they were

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gonna win that play as the ball was in the
air on that touchdown drive. They actually had three third
down connections and it just was one of those games
where it was so one sided on both sides of
the ball early for the Lions to lose this game
after a late scoring on garbage time Packers win going away,
they were up twenty seven to six. I hate to

(02:54):
say a statement win in Week one, but as a
Week one game goes, we led with this one shook
because it did feel like the most meaningful result we
saw all day.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
Yeah, meaningful result between two teams that are expected to
contend for the NFC North title. And it's also you know,
you had a big question marks the Lions coming to
the season. You lose both of your coordinators. What's your
offense going to look like, what's your defense going to
look like? Well, there's a bit of benefit in retaining
your staff from year to year and getting off to
a hot start, and the Packers did exactly that, throwing
ten points on the board in the first quarter and
kind of running away with it. So yeah, I mean, look,

(03:24):
we're gonna look back at this two months from now
and maybe not think about it that significantly, but today
it makes a huge impact on how both teams are
perceived after.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Just one week.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Well, it's it's a division game between the two favorites
in the division, and now the Lions have a very
important rematch where if you get swept in the division,
that's a major problem. And we thought about leading with
a better show Jets Steeler, I mean, a better game
Jets Steelers their next. But ultimately, like we've been doing
this a while, I mean I've been covering the NFL

(03:55):
now over twenty years, the Michael Parsons trade is the biggest,
craziest and I think most impactful trade I've ever seen
of a player in his prime. And to look at
what he did today, which to me was a perfect
example of how Micah Parsons is more than just his numbers.

(04:16):
They only used him situationally, Patrick and you know, in
the box Squore, I was shocked. I think he only
ends up with three or four pressures, depending on how
you're measuring it.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
He does get a sack on Goff.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Late in the game, and yet his first snap of
the game, we're going to talk about omens throughout the show.
Michael Parson's very first snap as a Packer. He beats
Pina seul An all Pro to the inside, flushes out
Jared Goff. When GoF moves off his spot, he struggles.
That was the case all day, and that happened again

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and again and again where Micah Parsons either moved the
play or he helped out a teammate. One of Devonte
Wyatt's sacks in this game was directly a result of,
you know, the protection going to Michael Parsons and him
put the pile.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yeah, And Dan Campbell did everything he could to sell
us up to the up to the game, including telling
the broadcast you know, you know, we were more worried
about Kenny Clark than this Michael Parsons.

Speaker 7 (05:10):
Well.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
I appreciate the effort from Dan, but even though you
mentioned Greg not a lot of production, he still was
second on the team in pressure percentage. Open things up
because Rashan Gary had one and a half sacks. I
would make the case that you could credit one of
those to Michael Parsons getting through earlier. He rushed on
the inside there, Davonte Wyatts sack, as you mentioned, Lucas
van Ness got a half of a sack on a

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play where Michael Parsons also carved everything in and Parsons,
being as explosive as he is, sped up the clock
where if you're if you just look at the scoreboard.
We talked about folks that just do the box score
watching and you say, oh, Jared Goff was thirty one
or thirty nine? I wonder, I wonder what was going
on for the lines. The time was just not there
today for golf to get back and get set up,

(05:54):
and so that resulted in very little opportunity for Jamison
Williams to get free deep and all of this. I think, Yeah,
Michael Parsons had a significant impact on the game despite
the fact he only played twenty nine snaps.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Those are twenty nine very very valuable snaps.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Okay, we've talked to Micah. Let's hear that sack call.
I know the crowd who gave such a good pop
when Parsons first got introduced was love.

Speaker 10 (06:20):
In this moment, goff takes the stockgun, snap rolls right
out of the pocket, chacks from behind by Parsons.

Speaker 7 (06:26):
Yeah, stuck, Mike Parsons. What just tends the sack back.

Speaker 9 (06:31):
In the thirty one yard line and the Parsons project
is underway in Green Bay.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
At that point, it's twenty seven to six and it's
third and long.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Has Larry Michael Parsons is so fast that Larry has
become pre cognitive. He is making calls before they happen,
He's celebrating things before they happen.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
He is now a future seat.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Well, yeah, because that was like I was at the
San Diego Safari Park the other day, and that is
like seeing a wild animal hunting it's prey and like
you already know how it's gonna end. Michah Parson's running
after Jared goff Man. What a memorable debut for him,
and to me, the key stat was just how they

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won at the line of scrimmage. Nine quarterback hits For
the Packers defense, it's been a blah, you know, pass
rush the last few years. Four sacks, whereas the Lions
nick two quarterback hits, no sacks, and the Packers' offense
didn't really run the ball very well. They didn't even
need to do that much in the second half, although

(07:32):
they had a couple of field goals. This was actually
a game where they shortened the game with their passing
attack and there weren't that many possessions. They were efficient
and they protected Jordan Love really well. So ultimately, you know,
there was a pregame conversation like what's more important getting
Aiden Hutchinson back or Michael Parsons. Ultimately it was the
multiplier effect and it felt like Hutchinson didn't have enough

(07:55):
help around him to have a big impact in this game.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
Yeah, which has been one of my big concerns about
the Lion just going into this entire season. But it's
obviously only one week, so I'm not going to overblow that.
But what I am going to say is how do
you beat the Lions? What have we learned in the past.
There's one of two ways to beat them. You force turnovers,
or you limit their time with the football and don't
allow them to get on a roll because once that
offense gets in a roll, at least last.

Speaker 6 (08:15):
Year, it was really hard to keep up with it.
So what do they do.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
They put points on the board early, they get ahead early,
they limit the Lions' ability to get on a roll,
and then you close it with a play like Parsons
when you're already up multiple scores, which then kind of
completes the whole trifecta of the build up, which was
the trade and the big opponent Week one. He delivers
and it makes for a just spectacular day and a
great way to start the season at Lamba.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
I was so wrong about this game. I made this
one of my picks with Cynthia just so off in
terms of thinking that the Lions would be ready to go.
I'm not that worried long term. I am worried that
Terry and Arnold, their cornerback, got hurt groin injury. You
never like to hear that. He's been banged up quite
a bit. They're a little thin in the secondary. He

(09:00):
was ruled out at one point. I am a little
worried about their interior offensive line. They got hit in
the backfield, according to the broadcast, more than any game
in the Dan Campbell era. So there were concerning signs.
But it is a long season. They have a lot
of talent and a lot of intelligent people there. And oh,
by the way, they have a rookie receiver who somehow

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managed to get into this show despite catching a touchdown
with less than a minute ago in a twenty seven
to six game. If you're watching on YouTube, we appreciate y'all,
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Speaker 3 (09:33):
You know.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
We're showing highlights during these Sunday night games and you
can watch what I believe was the best catch of
the day by Isaac Taslaw. And I know it didn't matter,
but I love ball enough Patrick that you can appreciate
incredible individual achievements even if it didn't matter. Affect two
to one and lost this game. This was the most
ridiculous catch I've ever seen.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
It matters, Greg, It matters because this is why we
watch football, to see.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Players make plays like this.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Initially, the stripes say it was incomplete, but I'm on
Ross Saint Brown Lobbies and the call eventually goes to
review and we see that Tuslaw's back foot somehow comes
in his right hand is fully out of bounds. In fact,
the top half of his body's out of bounds, and
he makes this catch like parallel to the group. Just
go ahead, whatever whatever award we can give Isaac to Slat,

(10:22):
let's give it to give.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Them the ball to I mean, are we sure like
Odell's catch is that much better than that?

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Well?

Speaker 1 (10:28):
To have to get that, okay, really, to get the
toe tap after the full extension h just absolutely outrageous.
And yeah, Jared Goff, the numbers looked okay, but I
drilled down. You know, he's not beaten the play action merchant.
You know, allegations nine for ten ninety yards when it
was play action only four point sixty five yards per

(10:50):
attempt when he was kind of in clear passing situations.
The Packers got after it, so did both offenses in
MetLife stating, which is the most surprised thing, I might say,
all day.

Speaker 11 (11:01):
Ball at the thirty seven yard line, twenty five seconds
remain here for the Jets. Fields gets a snap back
to pass looking steps up in the pocket, hatch and run,
throws to his left and.

Speaker 8 (11:11):
The ball is dis launched.

Speaker 11 (11:13):
Jallon Ramsey, Wallop, Skirrett Wilson. It is incomplete and Ramsey
makes the play that seals a victory for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 9 (11:24):
Wooo, somebody get the license plate of that train.

Speaker 7 (11:31):
It was a j train coming straight down the tracks.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Ah. Great job there by Max Starks and Rob King
on the play by play called w d V yes.
Jalen Ramsey one of many offseason pickups in this game
that had a huge impact, breaking up a pass by
Justin Fields with the Jets trying to drive in a

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back in forth game thirty four to thirty two.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Who the Steelers.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Win it Patrick Justin Fields looked like he had a
chance to scramble yeah and pick up that first down.
It's tough to knock him on a day where ultimately
both offenses did much better than we ever could have expected.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
And it shows just.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
How much things can change and how much one particular circumstance,
because I think back to the opener for the Jets
and Xavier Gibson has the walk off return for a
touchdown and you fast forward a couple of seasons and
it's a fumble that's ultimately what puts the Steelers in
position to get the go ahead score because they had
no opportunity to stop Justin Fields in this offense the

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entire game essentially until that very last play, where I
would make the case the sidelines determine that because Justin
Fields had a chance to run it. But Jalen Ramsey
is basically on the Steelers sideline, so all he sees
over there is a bunch of people in Steelers jerseys
and he sees a wide open Garrett Wilson. He ends
up getting him blasted by Jalen rams And what's the

(13:01):
play that seals the deal? But Breece Hall averages five
point six yards per carry in this game. I think
it was a real factor that you've got a quarterback
that's a threat to run the ball, and Justin Fields
was today he had forty eight yards on the ground
and so significant difference and now a fully healthy Breeze Hall.
But the connection with Garrett Wilson was there. They were
effective all up until that very last moment. In a

(13:22):
game where we've celebrated both of these defenses and their potential,
they did essentially nothing today.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Right Mike Toblin said they were going to be historic,
And you mentioned the fumble, So that was a key sequence,
if not the key sequence in the game. That the
Steelers are playing catch up. They score a touchdown, there's
a fumble on the kickoff by Kenny Gainwell, right, didn't he.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Kenny Gamewell for not only did he recovers.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
It, and Ben's Goronick, you know, starts off the scoring
here in terms of the first touchdown scorer in this game.
While you know Gainwell is surprising getting most of the
snaps early, it ended up being more Jalen Warren. But
in Aaron Rodgers is defense if you're comparing him and
Justin Fields. He ends up with four touchdowns in this game,
very efficient over eight yards per attempt, two hundred and

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forty four yards, and they made that fumble count just
a few seconds later on a throw to Calvin Austin.

Speaker 8 (14:14):
Rogers under center, play action pass rolling to his right,
fires off the.

Speaker 11 (14:18):
Back foot Tovin Austin touchdown Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 7 (14:22):
The play action pass. He gets Austin in the right
portion of the end zone for the touchdown pass. Fourth
of the day for Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
We're just going highlights heavy here, and I just thought
that was important because you're right, ultimately, the Jets are
going to really kick themselves for losing this game. Patrick
had the closest sides on it, so I'm focusing on
how he was looking at this game, they end up
with one hundred and twenty more yards overall, they run
for one hundred and eighty two yards. But the Jets

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still got more done. I mean the Steelers got more done.
I thought offensively, like, what did they do well other
then employ Chris Boswell.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Well, yeah, I ploring Chris Boswell was the key there
is he hits a career long that's ultimately the game
winner there. But on third down Aaron Rodgers was five
of seven. There were a couple of situations where the
Steelers would get backed up where Quinn Williams would get
a sack, they get pressure, they get Johnson back, he's healthy,
and the Steelers kept making plays. And to his credit,

(15:22):
the Arthur Smith Aaron Rodgers experiment looked good so far.
There was one of those key Arthur Smith forcing the
ball to John news Smith in the red zone situations
that worked on a push pass where the tight ends
coming in motion and he goes through. It was everything
working as well as dk Metcalf getting a lot of
run after catch in this game, including a couple of
very big plays where you've just wondered, and that was

(15:45):
my concern, like, how is all of this going to
work because we hadn't seen it. Either the Jets defense
is bad or the Steelers offense is starting out really hot.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, Jonnie Smith had six targets and only fifteen yards
five catches, but he did have a touchdown DK you
mentioned it. There wasn't a lot of yak when he
was with the Seahawks, and he ends up with four
for eighty three. Aaron Rodgers was quick to point out
with CBS how everyone you know said him and Arthur
Smith weren't gonna get along, and they're getting along just fine.

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And he was quick to also point out that this
game had a little extra before the game. Oh no,
it doesn't matter at all. After the game, we spoke.

Speaker 12 (16:23):
About the meeting with Aaron Glenn on McAfee a few
months ago. Beating him is your significance in that sense.
He basically told you to your face that he didn't
think you were right for that team. Yes, that's what
he did, So there's significance in beating him for you.

Speaker 13 (16:40):
I was happy to beat everybody associated with the Jets.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Not too bad. I mean they were like almost go
to him into that. You got to enjoy it. He
came back, he got it done. Shook. Should I feel.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Better or worse about my Jets to the playoffs prediction
that I forgot I even made on NFL dot com.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
I think you should feel good about it because this
is an offensive looked a lot better than I anticipated
then to look and I thought they were really creative
with their play calling. They used their weapons really well,
they used justin Field's ability to run really well.

Speaker 6 (17:12):
They put up a ton of points.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
It's just that things went bad for them at the
worst possible time, and that's how you lose a close game.
But this is a way more encouraging debut for this
team under Aaron Glenn than I anticipated, and that alone
should inspire a lot of confidence in them. And I'm
also glad that we played that Rogers touchdown past to
Calvin Austin, by the way, because that's classic Rogers and
I don't think we saw a lot of that over
the last couple of years. That off the one foot

(17:35):
flake of the wrist move into is right. I saw
that throw and I was like, oh, buddy, oh buddy,
he's gonna do that this season with Arthur Smith, this coordinator.
Oh and look at him, he's a little fist pump too.
If you're watching this on YouTube, that's classic Aaron Rodgers
right there. People might want to watch out.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah, I got the take from Steelers super fan my
friend Anthony Jesslnick afterwards.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
God, what an effing game.

Speaker 7 (17:58):
All.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
I'm all in Super Bowl, the Steelers, the Steelers fans
are feeling great. And since you spent about forty five
minutes Patrick talking in the newsroom and researching Chris Boswell
for your take, I have to give you the floor.
He had a sixty yarder after Aaron Riders couldn't get

(18:20):
them any closer with a couple with about a minute
to go, he had a sixty yarder to take the lead.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yeah, a sixty yarder where the Jets were trailing the
entire game. His career long was fifty nine. And I
thought about it, and it's been true for a while.
Chris Boswell is the kicker that everybody talked about justin
Tuckerby and I went back. I went back to try
to find a game the Pittsburgh Steelers have lost by
three or fewer points where Chris Boswell missed a kick.

(18:47):
I'm in twenty eighteen. Greg was goading me the whole top.
I still haven't found it.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
No, I thought, like you, I've got a lot of
games to talk about. You're just going through game logs
for Chris Boswell back to twenty eight yells.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Because you're like, you might have to defend that take.
Not been rooting for this guy.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
I have rooted for the other teams in the division,
significally the one that plays for Purple. And I feel
like there has been like no situation where I've wanted
Chris Boswell to miss a kick.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
He's always put that thing. He put it almost in
the net from sixty today.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
You big a fantastic point who has been more reliable
in big situations because Tucker, I think statistically and just
eye test, has been better, maybe the best kicker of
all time until it all went sideways. And it's great
that he's out of league considering what he did, but
just talking about his kicking, but Boswell's hit more big kicks.

(19:34):
It just feels like they're always in these sort of games.
And Mike Tomlin enjoys the hell out of having a
guy like that.

Speaker 10 (19:41):
Just acknowledging that NFL football is tough. There's gonna be
ebb and flow, You're gonna be up against it. You're
gonna be tested individually and collectively, and how you respond
to that oftentimes defines you. And I can't say enough
about Boz and our kicker is a serial killer man.

Speaker 7 (19:59):
He's he got a low pols rate.

Speaker 10 (20:01):
He can't wait for deliver.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
When you get the natural laugh there from Shook. You know,
it's a great quote.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Let's go to a game that I hope Shook can
laugh about, you know through the pain.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Oh yeah, forty three yard line, flaccol looking to throw
his pass.

Speaker 14 (20:19):
It is intercepted, it went off the finger tips of
till then DJ Turner comes up with a football him
that his coffin nails.

Speaker 15 (20:30):
Bam bam bam about Turner Division game, a matchup that's
been tough for Joe Burrow and Zach Taylor over the years.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
That Kevin Stefanski Browns did it again in terms of
out playing the Cincinnati Bengals for sixty minutes, but it's
all for not They lose seventeen to sixteen. That was
Dan Horde Dave Lapham on w c KY late in
the second one for Joe Flacco, just part of a

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series of disappointing moments Shook in a game that the
Browns out gained Cincinnati three twenty seven to one forty one.
What do you think was the most important reason that
they couldn't get it done?

Speaker 6 (21:18):
I have a trifectave takes.

Speaker 5 (21:19):
Okay, I'm gonna start with your kicker, because you cut
Dustin Hopkins to bring in this rookie thinking that he
would be the guy that would miss pats, and then
he misses a game tying pat, and then he misses
a field goal that would have put you ahead by
at least two, and if you'd made the pat, would
have put you ahead by three, and instead you get
no points out of an opportunity for four points.

Speaker 6 (21:37):
I also have.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
Another take in this, which is that we should still
have earned and unearned interceptions because both of Joe Flacco's
interceptions hit his receivers in the hands. And yet that
is what Cleveland Brown's football has been for a long time,
and certainly was on Sunday. You know, I'm fielding texts
from emotional Browns fans after the fact for hours I'm
watching games. My phone keeps lighting up.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
I'm ignoring it. I take a moment to scroll through
it and see.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
They are so deep in there feelings over so many things,
and then you go look at the stats, and my
response is the same to all of them. The Browns
statistically outperformed them in every category, and this is not
a good football team. And the reason they're not a
good football team is because they outperformed them statistically in
every category and put sixteen points on the board and
lost a game like that. They lost over ninety three

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percent of win probability in three plays. Two of them
were the interceptions, the other one was the missed field goal.
Bad teams don't take care of the details. That's the
Cleveland Browns. And the last point in my trifecta, the
Bengals going to be hooting and hollering about how good
they feel about their defense, and those were two very athletic,
acrobatic interceptions that give them credit for that.

Speaker 6 (22:37):
But you let the Cleveland.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
Browns, led by Joe Flacco, rack up three hundred and
twenty seven yards. Dylan Sampson his first NFL game, went
for almost one hundred scrimmage yards. Don't puff your chests
out that much, because the team that can actually take
care of the details is gonna make you pay in
future weeks.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, I was getting texts from our friend Nick Wesseling
that was just the Bengals defense is the same. The
Bengals secondary cannot tackle, so a lot of complaining, but
ultimately they at least bowed up and forced field goal
attempts sometimes and unfortunately some missed field goal attempts.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
Yeah, the missed field goal attempts. The missed extra point
loomed pretty large as well. On top of that. But
going back to what Shook was pointing out with this
Bengals defense, Joe Flacco, Joe Flacco on the run today
was three or five for forty seven yards.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
There there were several.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
Plays where Joe Flacco is glacially moving away from Bengals
pass rushers and they couldn't get to him, making moves
in the pocket, making great throws. I with Shook, the
Browns absolutely sold a very very solid Joe Flacco game
where they had any number of chances to be successful
here and a great game from the defense as well.
And this whole like, oh, the Bengals are playing in

(23:45):
the preseason, they're going to try extra hard. You have
to go back to October of twenty fourteen for a
game where the Cincinnati Bengals had fewer total offense yardedge
like that twenty fourteen it.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Was Andy Dalton.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Wait, really, Bulson was the e receiver.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
It was a long time ago.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
And the second worst was a couple of years ago
in twenty twenty three against this Brown's team, where they
had one more yard than they had today.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
And that was in a rainstorm, and that was week
one and Burrow was coming off an injury.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
I remember that well.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
It is funny because it's not like we thought they
were gonna try extra hard early. They were just trying
to change their process. Tackle more in training camp, approach
it a different way, play more in the preseason. And
then Chook, tell me what went on when the Bengals
were on offense, because I got admit, I didn't have
eyes on this one too often. And when I looked
afterwards and saw that the Bengals had under one hundred

(24:38):
yards net passing today, Joe Burrow ends up with one thirteen.
Chase Brown goes twenty one for forty three. On the ground,
Jamar Chase has two catches in five targets for twenty
six yards. Like man, this Brown's defense must have balled out,
did they?

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (24:55):
They did. They didn't in the first quarter and a half.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
So this game starts with a very methodical, very long
Bengals scoring drive, and then the Browns respawned with a
similar drive that's actually longer, and I'm thinking, God, we're
gonna end up with four total possessions for each team
by the time this game's over.

Speaker 6 (25:10):
Just the pace of the way that the game was going.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
Eventually, though, in the second half, the Browns defense came
together and completely denied anything that the Bengals wanted to
do through the air. For the most part, Greg Newson
had a couple of great pass breakups on Jamar Chase
after getting flaged for a pass interference in the first half.
They just got all together, and then they got after
Joe Burrow. Miles Garrett had two sacks. They had this
sequence in the fourth quarter where they really needed to stop.
They were down by a point and three plays in

(25:33):
a row. Joe Burrow is just under complete duress. Miles
Garrett gets a couple of sacks. They have a combination
of players sackim and he barely avoids the safety, which
by the way, would have changed the outcome of.

Speaker 6 (25:42):
The game potentially.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
So the defense was fantastic and that points again to
the fact that they wasted this opportunity. So, you know,
the theory going into the season for the Browns was
we know their offense is not gonna be very good.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
They're gonna have to lean their defense. Their defense passed
every test today.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
I don't know how that's gonna be on a week
by week basis because they seem to have the Bengals number.
But yeah, that high powered Engles offense that we see
often in other places once again did not show up
in Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
They still won, though, and this season is going to
be about development, and you know, Schweesssinger ends up having
a nice game with a quarterback hit, a tackle for loss,
like eight tackles.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Harold Fannon, who in theory.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Is the backup to David n Joku, catches seven passes
for sixty three yards, like he is such an interesting player.
You mentioned Dylan Samson, so you're getting production out of
the rookies. You also got good news that quinch On
Jenkins is expected to be back with the team this week.
He has signed his contract. At this point, we're not
expecting any league punishment as far as we know, and

(26:39):
I think there's a loose expectation he will be back
with the team. We'll handle all these little news items
that have popped up. This happens a lot before a
week one, like Jamison Williams got a contract, Zidaria.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Smith is on the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Now, like, we'll hit all that in another show, probably
Monday Night with you shuk. You're working hard all season.
Hopefully this augurs well for an improved brown season. But ultimately,
if you're a Bengals fan, yeah, it doesn't feel great,
but you were losing games like this a year ago,
and it's very important to get that win, and it's
heartbreaking for the Browns to not because their schedule coming

(27:14):
up is absolutely brutal. Let's take a break. We are
just getting started on the very first recap show of
the season. Jordan's Waiting, then the Wings. One more segment
to go.

Speaker 13 (27:35):
Who's Phil goldtip will be from forty four yards bar
side of hash. He is a right footed ticker, a
little different angle perhaps the holder Bradley pinion, the snapple
good one. The spot is down, the kicker is airborne
and it is Paul. My goodness, it's no good, Oh god,
he missed it. Why to the right.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
How the Tampa Bay Buccaneers will prevail in Atlanta.

Speaker 7 (27:58):
Remember two seconds earlier in the game, You.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Remember he hit the up right, up right and it
went in.

Speaker 16 (28:05):
Well, it was far enough back that it missed outside
to the right.

Speaker 7 (28:09):
He pushed it.

Speaker 13 (28:10):
Tampa Bay Buccaneers twenty three, two seconds left, we lead three.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
That was young way Coop finding a new and painful
way for the Falcons to lose a game twenty three
to twenty. Buccaneers on top. Get the road win, Get
revenge on those Kirk Cousins Falcons from a year ago
who swept him.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
So much went on.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
In the fourth quarter of this game one of the
many reasons shook why I always say the NFC South
is underrated, Like maybe they're not gonna win the Super Bowl.
Every year though the Buccaneers pop up. But man, there's
just something about these division games that always end up awesome.
And this was sneaky one of the best games, if
not the best game.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Of the day. Like how did it all happen?

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (28:59):
Well, it's a bit of a war of attrition.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
Early, the Buccaneers offense, under a new offensive coordinator again
didn't exactly answer all the questions that, oh, could they
just transition and be the same explosive offense they were before.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
And no, granted, they don't have Chris.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
Gobin out there, and I give them that, and they
don't have Jalen mc millan out there either. They have
Mike Evans and they have a mecha Abuka who stepped
up in a big way to catch a touchdown pass.
But it was a lot of the Buccaneers are near midfield,
the Buccaneers drive has stalled, and they just kind of
repeated it. Credit goes to the Falcons defense. They got
a lot more pressure than we saw from them for
most of last year. But that was It was just
kind of a back and forth game like that. And

(29:33):
then the Buccaneers take the lead, and then the Falcons
move into scoring range and then it seems like they
spend an hour in.

Speaker 6 (29:37):
A goal to go situation. I just counted the plays.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
I think it was a total of one, two, three, four, five, six,
seven eight plays from in gol to go before they
finally scored. It involved a replay review that was basically
inconclusive and involved Michael Pennock scrambling and reaching out and
getting across the goal line. For a touchdown. Everything finally
going the Falcons way. They've finally broken through. And then
that is what Baker Mayfield needed to wake up the

(30:02):
entire offense to go right down the field and hit
who else but a Mecca a Buka again for a
touchdown pass. So it was very weak one, it was
very NFC South, and it was a reminder that the Falcons,
for as much as they feel like they've improved in
certain areas, they're still the little brother to the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yes, let's put a disclaimer on all these games. There
were so many where I thought, Man, the last twenty
twenty five minutes of the game was just so sloppy.
You could tell everyone is just tired, and so sometimes
it's dangerous to draw big conclusions. And yet Mecca Agbuka
looking amazing and catching big time touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
I think that's a thing that's here to stay.

Speaker 13 (30:39):
Twenty five yard line, empty backfield. Baker Mayfield, He's got
Bucky yover go to slot receiver to his left, takes
a belt high snap, looks, looks, thows the ball toward
the end zone at the receiver.

Speaker 7 (30:49):
It's a hot ball touchdown.

Speaker 9 (30:51):
Tampa Bay up Knaka up Buka Well, the defender all
over him.

Speaker 7 (30:55):
Pete bakes the grab of the end zone. The Bucks
take the lead.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
A game Patrick where you know Bucky Irving's held to
two point six yards per carry. The Buccaneers get out
gained pretty significantly. They're under three hundred yards. It did
not look like the offense from a year ago. You
thought Baker maybe didn't like look his best.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
Well, no, early, especially early it was, as you've always
pointed out, Baker Mayfield can be a little bit streaky.
The Falcons defense did cause some problems. The ground game
wasn't going. In fact, anything that Baker Mayfield where Michael
Pennock Junior did today was with it during extended period's
zero run game, especially on behalf of the Falcons where

(31:32):
Tyler Algier and Bijon both had twenty four yards on
the ground. They were close to having Michael Pennock Junior
be the leading rusher in this game. In that sequence
where the Chuck was referencing, where it was two scrambles
from Michael Pennock Junor that almost eclipsed the entire run
total of the Atlanta Falcons today. Vitavea was a huge
factor in this game. So I wouldn't you know, sell

(31:53):
all your Falcons run game shares. But the Bucks continue
to be explosive and the risk taking and playmaking of
Baker Mayfield gives them that puncher's chance, and we saw
it today and Buka is gonna change a whole lot
in that because these were no doubters. He looks strong
at the catch point, just explosive. I don't know who

(32:16):
tapped him as the safe pick, as the guy who's right.
He's just he's workedmen like no, this kind is explosive.
Like they undersold Abuka coming out of Ohio State, which
is a crime to me.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
He yeah, he had a thirty yard touchdown catch that
and then you heard the twenty five yard touchdown catch
that was longer than any of the Falcons wide receivers
had on any of the plays, like fifteen targets for
Drake London shook.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
What did you see?

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Because you know, John Robinson gets that fifty yard you know,
catch and run on a reception, ends up with one
hundred yards as a receiver. So his fantasy owners are
happy early and you think, oh man, they're gonna they're
gonna be rolling. I mean, Pennis had at a great
that highlight touchdown that he had, But what did you
see out of this Falcons team, especially offensively that didn't
quite get it done.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
It was a disjointed offense and they made some strange
decisions situationally when it came to play calling, even that
goal to go situation they had, I think it was
bijon try to go wide from like the one, as
if they were going to catch him by surprise.

Speaker 6 (33:15):
It did not work.

Speaker 5 (33:17):
It felt like, you know, this is not a new
staff that that does or doesn't understand their personnel.

Speaker 6 (33:22):
They know what they have.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
It just felt like a team that Pennix was under
drest a decent amount.

Speaker 6 (33:26):
He was out of structure a lot. He was trying
to make plays.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
He was throwing balls that weren't necessarily on the right
shoulder in certain situations. It just felt like a week
one offense for this team. And you know, fortunately for them,
their defense played so well that it kept them in
the game. But it took them god, I mean, other
than that big play early, it took them most of
the game to figure out how to get the ball
into scoring position again. And ultimately, you know, young like
who his kick you know, takes off the right side

(33:50):
and it results in a defeat.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
And shout out to Baker Bayfield too, like even in
a game if he doesn't start well, like he's earning
that reputation where if you need to touchdown and late
in the game, he goes and he gets it. And
I know we're not supposed to box score, you know,
scout or whatever, but I went and I did check
the pressures in this game just to kind of, you know,
see how this new Fangalco scouter, you know, this new
fangled Falcons pass rush and we got like four from

(34:14):
Rooke Roro and uh, which I think I said correctly
for the first time in my life. And then you
know they were blitzing Devon Diablo quite a bit. Who
got in there. James Pierce did have four pressures, Jalen
Walker didn't have any on his thirteen pass rushers. But
the thing that stuck out to me was by far
the leader in pressures for the game with Asan Reddick
of the Buccaneers was seven and led the game also

(34:37):
with three quick pressure So that signing is already starting
to pay off. And man, the Buccaneers needed a player
like that close division game. There, we got another fun
division one, this time in the late window out west and.

Speaker 17 (34:53):
It's second down and five a's the forty nine ers
nine again shotgun again.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Darnald looks Donald.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
The book came out and both four on it.

Speaker 7 (35:00):
Was that a pass or is it a football? Might
have been an empty hand? I pay? The ruling is
forty nine Ers football. Bosa time?

Speaker 10 (35:08):
What did we say?

Speaker 7 (35:09):
Closa time? Holy smokes?

Speaker 9 (35:13):
What a play by Nick Blosa.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Nick Bosa pushes the newly minted uh million dollar man
Abe Lucas, Yes, the right tackle of the Seahawks, who
was given a big long term contract over the weekend,
ultimately pushed back into Sam Darnold, who never gets that playoff.
They were in the red zone with a chance to

(35:36):
score a game winning touchdown. Instead it's the forty nine
ers who get the win. Seventeen to thirteen. Patrick, you
were living and dying by a kind of wild back
and forth performance here by Brock Perdy in this forty
nine Ers team.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
Yeah, things start off and you're thinking, well, the forty
nine ers get Christian McCaffrey.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
There was the calf scare on Friday.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
He wound up getting a lot of act thirty one
touches in this game, twenty two carries nine catches, and
they would need it because after a five yarder to
George Kittle in the first half, he comes up limping.
He would leave the game with a hamstring injury. Later
Juwan Jennings would leave the game with the shoulder injury.
So it was pretty much exclusively Ricky Piersoll and CMC
in the past game, and that would ultimately be enough

(36:20):
because Robert Sala's defense made a ton of plays where
the Seahawks would get chunk plays and then nothing would happen.
There was They even attempted to have JSN throw a
lateral late in the game to try to get something
going into the boom and bust nature of it was
kind of emblematic in a final drive after Brock Perdy
has a miracle touchdown to Jake Tungus, who I had

(36:43):
to Google trying to figure out who this guy is.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
He had no career catches going into today.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
And it makes a great play, but the Seahawks come
right back. There's a huge play from Darnold to JSN
down the sideline. They're inside the five, and then Bosa
makes the play that ultimately seals the deal for the
forty nine ers in a game that could have been
even more in their favor.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
But Jake Moody got a little wiggly.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
Kicking the ball, oh man, but he hit the ones
that they ultimately needed once he'd missed them, and the forty.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
And by ones you're including like an extra point. Let's
not go too crazy here, it counts. He hit it's
one thirty two yard field goal and missed two other
short ones.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
One was blocked, but it looked like it was a
low kick.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
You mentioned the ton just catch, which was one of
the moments I believe of the entire day, just to
set the scene. Yeah, that the Seahawks take a thirteen
to ten lead with under four minutes remaining. I thought
Greg Olsen was so good. It's why he's the best
in the business. Explaining that situation. It's a tie game,
it's a short yarded situation. It's fourth and one, and

(37:46):
they decide to take the field goal, you know, to
take the lead, and he really thought they should strongly
consider going for it there because the clock is so
important at that stage, you know, about three half minutes
to go in the game and taking a three point
lead there is probably just not gonna be enough, Like

(38:07):
it's gonna encourage the opponent almost to go for seven.
That's what exactly what happens, and they end up chasing
those points that they get with the Ton just catch.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Let's listen to it.

Speaker 17 (38:19):
One forty four to go, fourth quarter, shotgun Purty looking looking,
pump from behind. Now he rolls out, still has time,
still looking now, he rolls to his right, pursued and
he throws at it.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Just got it and take the lead.

Speaker 17 (38:37):
Ton just plucked that out of dangerous way for his
first career touchdown.

Speaker 7 (38:42):
Lloyd Dudy.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Ever, that was Guy Haberman and Tim Ryan on ksfo
Purty through two interceptions, which you know he throws a
very catchable ball, so it's like a get the very
catchable ball for both teams for real. It's just like
floating there and it's real nice because they were incredible plays.
Julian Love that was a great interception. The Ernest Jones.

(39:05):
That was a great interception. If you guys go back,
if you're looking for a game pass game, I think
this is high on the list because I just thought
there was a lot of really exciting individual plays. The
block kick from Julian Love was fantastic, Like, just a
lot of good moments, and it was a lot on
the defensive side shook. But what do you take from

(39:25):
the fact that Christian McCaffrey, after you know, hearing that
he's all, you know, banged up all week, winds up
with thirty one touches in over one hundred and forty
yards in this game and had to be a even
bigger factor than he normally would have. I think because
of the injuries around him.

Speaker 5 (39:42):
Yeah, I mean, we knew that was going to be
the case because of all the injuries they've dealt with,
and then the injuries that they dealt with during the game.
Like that's been the story of the Niners for years
and especially during this preseason.

Speaker 6 (39:51):
But what do I think about it?

Speaker 5 (39:52):
I think that I got completely played by the forty
nine ers over the span of two days because I'm
sitting here thinking, oh God, Christian McCaffrey's on the injury
report with the CAF issue, so it's deja vu from
last year, and then start to write it up on Friday,
and then McCaffrey takes the podium as I'm about done,
and he's like, no, it's just precautionary.

Speaker 6 (40:07):
I know I've been there before. I just wanted to
take myself out. Oh.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
By the way, I'm going to go touch the ball
thirty one times on Sunday and exit.

Speaker 6 (40:13):
Completely healthy and we're going to win the football game.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
But that is I think that's forty nine Ers football
in twenty twenty five in a nutshell because for as
great as of a play that was made by Brock
Purty in the closing moments, you know, in a key
situation there, he also you know, you talk about the
Julian Lovin exception being a fantastic play.

Speaker 6 (40:28):
As he threw the ball, I'm wondering, why are you
throwing that?

Speaker 5 (40:30):
And on that touchdown pass to Tan, just as the
ball's in the air, I'm thinking, why are you throwing that?

Speaker 6 (40:36):
That's gonna get picked?

Speaker 5 (40:37):
And then it somehow doesn't get picked. Great description on
the call plucked it out of the air. By the way,
Riek Woolan is going to want to burn the tape
from this game and especially that last drive because he
misplayed a couple of balls.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah, yeah, it's a positive.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
He did save a touchdown that was destined for Ricky
pearsall got it and used that full six' three wingspan
to get to that. One somehow the ball skills available
on that play just went away BECAUSE i THINK i
think rick couldn't See tanjas at, all or he's, like
this Is Jake, Tanjas he's not gonna catch this. Ball
and Ultimately Jake tanjas game saves the. Day he was

(41:10):
hot today he's almost as hot as the microphones in the.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
BOOTH i, LOVE i, MEAN i love it when the
right team gets. Rewarded AND i was watching this game
just thinking the whole, time, like how are The seahawks
winning this? Game how are they tied in this? Game
they were pretty thoroughly. Outplayed you do got to worry
about the preseasons. SOMETIMES i, MEAN i know we learned

(41:32):
this every, time but we were so excited about how
The seahawks run game. Looked Kenneth walker runs for two
yards per carry in this. Game charbonay was a little
better twelve for forty, seven AND i do think you
have to be worried about the depth of the options
That darnold's throwing to one hundred and twenty four yards
For smith And jigba and the next closest receiver Is

(41:54):
Cooper cup who had fifteen yards and also stumbled and
dropped a third down to kill a drive in the
second you, know Half arroyo gets seven, yards like that's
it for their. Offense AND i don't know if it's
that Many seahawks fans out, there but my Friend, jackson
who Hosts Cigar thoughts out, there had the. TWEET i, think,

(42:17):
like really glad that we saved five million dollars at.
QUARTERBACK i don't, know it seems a little. EARLY i
don't know even know was it even that bad At donald?
GAME i don't think it was that.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
BAD i don't think it was that bad of A donald.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
Game, again he had an. Opportunity they turned it over
in the red. Zone weight we Saw gino do that
plenty of. TIMES i do think the scoreboard you would
feel a little bit more comfortable With gino that they
would have had the points necessary to win this.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
GAME i think that's fair to.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Say what a, Transition because it is time for The
Sunday drive presented By. Toyota let's go, places and one
of those places Is Jillette.

Speaker 7 (42:53):
Stadium bower's motions.

Speaker 17 (42:54):
Like to less snap Handoff chanty trying to pick his way.

Speaker 7 (42:57):
Forward he's. Porst he gets down the pile toughs.

Speaker 9 (43:02):
Ask gent's first career store had The raiders.

Speaker 18 (43:06):
Capitalize on the, pick they go down for, six take
a thirteen to ten.

Speaker 7 (43:11):
Lead of the.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Third that Was Jason horowitz on k R. Lv DID
i Put Geno smith And Sam darnold in the rundown
back to back on?

Speaker 2 (43:24):
PURPOSE i did. Not sometimes these magical FOOTBALL i know
you don't believe, me BUT i.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Didn't any games had a.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
CHANCE i lost so many picks today the football guys
were trying to repay me for just enjoying the. Day
Gino smith sets a, record if you can call it,
that for the most yards in a game by a
Debut raiders quarterback up and down the, field three hundred
and sixty two yards in a twenty to thirteen victory

(43:57):
over The New England. Patriots he was clearly the best
quarterback on the. FIELD i think they were the best coach, team.
Certainly The raiders AND i talked about omens a little.
Earlier i'm big into first. Plays i'm big into. Omens
we talked about The parsons. One we had a couple
omens Here omen number. One first play from, Scrimmage gino

(44:19):
To Brock, bowers just wide open down the.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Field bowers people were, Worried, oh they're.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Going to take him off the field a little bit
more like they're using you, know they're not sure about his. Blocking,
yeah five, catches one hundred and three, yards eight, targets
dominated the snap share as.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Well he is that dude a one of.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
One that first drive after The bowers, Catch Trey, tucker
WHO i thought had some really good. ROUTES i know
he only went two for fifty, four but there were
about four different routes in this game WHERE i just
thought he looked really. Great he ends up with a
twenty six yard touchdown catch on that drive to cap.
It it was a great way for them to. Start
it made me feel Like Chip kelly was. Back they

(44:57):
definitely had a portion basically after that drive till the
third quarter where they got, quiet but they figured some
things out and it really does feel like an offense
WHERE i thought their offensive line did a good enough
job pass protecting For Gino smith that they have enough
right now even Without Amari cooper who's.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Retired, yeah, really.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
The Big mark the only mark on the game For
gino was just a weird decision to force the ball
to Brock bowers with four people on him that ultimately
got picked, off And Ashton genty really didn't get a
lot going.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
On the only averaged two yards of. Carry he had a.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
Touchdown they missed his celebration because the camera cut To
Chip kelly for some, reason because we never saw Enough Chip,
kelly so we missed your celebration. Ashing but this was
a sustained effort from an offense Where Jacoby myers was
a couple of targets away from the big. Game we
were concerned that When Michael mayer caught a ball in
the middle of the second, half no Brock bauers there

(45:50):
as a knee. Injury Coach carroll said he just bumped
knees with somebody he wanted to go back in the. Game,
ultimately they didn't need, him as the offense was consistent
and the defense made the plays that it needed to
to Get Drake may and company.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Often glad he brought that.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Up and, yes a revenge game For Jacoby myers who
was close to a bigger, day but it still went
eight for ninety.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Seven you think Old.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Bill belichick should have given him three for thirty nine
million a few years. Ago, Still i'm still salty about
it that you should Be, okay let The patriots scouts
go to the. Games the Other oh, man if, you'll
if you'll forgive me here shook. Is first drive For Drake.
May first down has a wide open, checkdown doesn't see,
it you, know like after he goes through his, reads

(46:30):
holds onto, it tries to. Scramble it's a bad, idea
and then completely sales his third. Down he had open,
receivers you, Know Kayshaun body goes six for one oh.
THREE i Think Hunter henry is the most important player
on this. Offense that's not a great. Sign and they
moved the. Ball if you look at the box, score
it was two hundred and eighty seven yards a touchdown

(46:50):
interception For Drake. May it's like not that bad though
he had to throw it forty six. Times but he
did not look comfortable even on a lot of. COMPLETIONS
i don't think he was that. Accurate and that disjointed
START i think continued because in the middle portion of this,
game there were opportunities for them short yard situations where
they got stuffed open receivers That Drake may missed while

(47:14):
their defense was playing. Better AND i thought they were
creative getting a lot of pressure On Gino, smith and
they ultimately didn't take. Advantage and it ends up being
kind of a snoozer of a game shook where they
tack on a field, goal you, know really late to
make it twenty to. Thirteen but it was kind of
a game where The raiders just choked the life out

(47:34):
of The patriots in the second.

Speaker 5 (47:35):
Half, Yeah and it felt like a game that was
defined by just a lot of new for both, teams
but one team handled all the newness better than the,
other and that was The raiders With Pete. Carroll and
because of, experience to be honest with, you like you
have the experienced coach And Pete carreley have the experienced
quarterback In Gino. Smith you have an experience coach Coaching Mike,
rabel but you still have a very young quarterback In Drake.
May you have a ton of new pieces on both
sides of the ball. There And i'm glad you brought

(47:57):
Up Hunter henry being a big part and a key
part of this, offense maybe the big part of it
because how do you get a young quarterback? Comfortable you
feed the tight. End that's your safety blanket in any.
Offense so that is it's a great. Point but also
this has been prevalent throughout the games that we've cut
most of the games In Cover Day safe for The,
jets nobody's running the. Football, well how are you going
to balance out an offense and take a little bit
of pressure off your quarterback in his second year and

(48:18):
his first year in under a new offensive coordinator with
a bunch of new. Guys if you don't run the, football,
well that explains a lot of. It you talk, About,
well they. Couldn't they got stuffed in a number of,
situations and it was a close game until it wasn't
when The raiders made it a two score game in
the second. Half that could all be solved if you
have a little bit more. Balance but balance is an.
Aspiration it's very much more difficult to achieve in THE.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Nfl, yeah Vermondre stevenson ends up Doubling Trevon henderson and,
snaps but ends up with fifteen yards on seven.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Carries there was no.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
PUSH i mean they were running on third and a
foot and losing a. Yard and that's been on my
raider all week all. Week, well maybe we'll talk about
it later in the. Week like we talked, about, oh
the run game. Is it's all about the run this,
year and game after game you are really Seeing it's
like the defensive coordinators knew it was coming and they
were ready for. It you're seeing the run games stymied

(49:09):
all around the. League it's only one, game And i'm
not going to panic too, much but there was one
SEQUENCE i do want to get. TO i, mean we
talked a lot About Will campbell in the, offseason AND
i actually think for most of this game he looked pretty.
GOOD i bet HIS pff score or whatever's not going
to be that. Bad but it was a brutal sequence
that really decided the game. Late he ended up with

(49:29):
two penalties in the game. Total but there was a
sequence late where he gives up a. Stripsack Malcolm koons
And Max crosby combining on that And kons looked good
and this game so Did. Crosby he gives up a strip,
sack he falls on the, ball so they keep the.
Ball they end up in a fourth and, five and
then he tries to get off the ball early after

(49:50):
getting a little spooked out from that strip, sack and
they call a penalty on him for a false. Start
it was his second false start of the. Day then
they're at fourth and ten at midfield or so a
little before, that with what you, know five six, secs you,
know five six minutes left in the, game And Mike
rabel with one of the most gutless punts you'll ever

(50:11):
want to. SEE i hate a gutless. Punt your defense
isn't even playing that. Well you're down ten freaking points
with five and a half minutes to, go and you
know what happens when you punt the ball over To Gino.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Smith he makes it.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Pay we're going three twenty five to.

Speaker 7 (50:25):
Go see if they put this in the, Air Gino.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Smith is gonna.

Speaker 7 (50:28):
Throw he rosted his writing. Puff he heats went ball
for four and one for. One Comes buck slides And
mike's the. Rabbit The patriots thirty nine your.

Speaker 9 (50:36):
Line, paul my goodness for what football was.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Like a dying.

Speaker 18 (50:41):
Duck but he kicks a thirty six in The patriots
town tory and little.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
KEY i should point out this game was a little
sloppier because of light rain happening throughout the. Game it
definitely had an. Impact great call there By Jason. Horowitz
terrible job By Carlton davis who who bites on a
slant on in twenty when you know.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
You just he he was over.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Aggressive you got in the Full Carlton davis experience that
he gave up some big.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Plays he made some big.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Plays but you you told, me AND i thought about You,
patrick like you won't know until it's the fourth quarter
and you See Geno smith like make a nice, throw
like how you really feel in your?

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Heart and.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
The heart is they can hold many truths at. Once, Oh,
ultimately LIKE i was, like that's why you you don't
punt it back To Gino.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Smith you deserve what you. Get it was.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
BEAUTIFUL i was happy to watch him play so, well
and YET i still was ultimately disappointed by a dispiriting
effort by The. Patriots that was The Sunday drive presented By.
Toyota let's go, Places let's go To Lucas Oil, stadium.

Speaker 19 (51:45):
Second and Twenty for The colts first play of the second,
Quarter Daniel.

Speaker 7 (51:48):
Jones plays the right, side that's.

Speaker 9 (51:50):
Right touchdown for The Colt's pittman junior twenty seven yard
beautifully placed past By Daniel Jones zones To Michael pittman junior.

Speaker 7 (52:02):
Touchdownty what for The Colts?

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Ooo Matt taylor on w F N, I Danny dimes
is back thirty three to eight against The. Dolphins the
biggest beatdown of the entire day was The Indianapolis colts
over The Miami.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Dolphins what, Happened, Patrick.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Well what happened was we get a Generational dimes. Game
AND i remember starting the twenty twenty four season and
Seeing Saquon barkley In philadelphia and The eagles score thirty
points and, Thinking, wow that only happened a couple of
times during The dimes In saquon Era well his first
opportunity here against The Miami dolphins, defense you would think
by looking at numbers that straight up The dolphins got

(52:47):
enough pressure to. Bother Danny, dimes of, course famously had
eighteen turnovers his rookie, year significant amount of. Fumbles, no
they were. There there were twelve total pressures by The
dolphins On Daniel Jones. Distantley these two new additions on
the offensive line for The colts paid. Off dimes navigated
the pocket he got balls To Tyler warren who almost
finishes a tight end. One the rookie made a whole

(53:10):
bunch of plays on the. Outside Michael Pippen junior was.
Involved there's a crucial third down conversion To Josh downs
where The Miami dolphins turned the ball over two out
of the first three drives that they had the, ball
and The colts consistently scored every single time where there
was just no spot for. Hope The dolphins got a late,

(53:30):
touchdown but this was. Nasty it was thirty to nothing
at one. Point greg The dolphins were never in this.
GAME i picked him as a. Survivor me And Zach
taylor both start the seasons traditionally, bad except The bengals
got a Winning week one AND i lost a gam
And i'm out of the survivor waiting for you.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Guys that is absolutely.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Outrageous it's on my radar that Both patrick And, jordan you,
know didn't take this survivor responsibility seriously. Enough and you're
just throwing out willy nilly one and a half points
favorites in a survivor. Pool Although i'm talking out of
both sides of my mouth BECAUSE i absolutely thought The
dolphins were gonna win this.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
Game, yeah, no and they it was clear early on
that they had no chance to win.

Speaker 10 (54:12):
It.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
Yeah they were thoroughly outplayed to an extent where Like
tua Airmailed Tyreek hill on the first, interception where Preseason
i'm Thinking cam buying. Them, well, hey you know he
had all those celebrations and don't turnovers In minnesota With
Brian flores's, Defense they're. Not, no he Lou anaumo has come.
In This colts defense made. Plays Leatu latu had an

(54:33):
interception as well where he dropped off into, coverage a.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Great interception for a defensive, end like one of the
best defensive interceptions of the.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Decade i'll say.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
That, yeah so Lou anarumo gets escapegoaded IN sensei comes
To indianapolis and it is it is a new day In.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Indy The ana roumossance is.

Speaker 16 (54:50):
On.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Yeah at one POINT i think it was. Halftime actually
The colts had run forty three plays to. Fifteen they
had two hundred and fifty five yards to forty. Three
Tyree kill was honking and wildly, gesticulating not happy on the,
Bench like in the first half of the. Game somebody
was the vibes are. Bad let's listen To mike McDaniel

(55:13):
after the.

Speaker 20 (55:14):
GAME i think it's definitely not all on. Him there's
there's there's just throws THAT i know he makes nine
times out of ten and he didn't make him. Today
but that being, said it's hard to play quarterback when
you have surprise, pressures meaning that they're blitzing but you
think it's, accounted accounted, for and then somebody doesn't pick it,

(55:35):
up or you, know you have people coming out the
huddle the wrong way when when they had been nailing
it for a week on.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
A week.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Plus really, Mhm mike McDaniel has a bad habit like
me of just like the sentences to just trail off
at some point you're not really sure where the.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
End i'm that guy as.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Well, yeah to a tongue Of bilo ends up three
point nine yards per, play you're passing the.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Ball you just you're just not used to seeing.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
That AND i think the focus is going to be
so much on the dysfunction there and everyone that's been
whispering that it's that it's not a good situation there
In miami is gonna be spiking the football and, celebrating
and The colts people are going to be that, say,
Hey Danie jones look pretty, good like they're going to
be SAYING i told you. SO i do want to
just more focus on the credit to The. Colts shook
just that Tight Tyler warren going seven for seventy six

(56:30):
in his first game as a. Pro Michael, pittman who
was just falling to the nether regions of fantasy, DRAFTS
i saw late LIKE i saw him like the eleventh
or twelfth, round like this, is you, know go six
for eighty and and a. Touchdown This colts, team if
they can get decent quarterback, play they obviously got better
than that.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Today.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Shook dude does have some talented, players And Shane, stiken you,
know has has coached up some pretty you, know shaky
quarterbacks here over the last few years to a decent
amount of.

Speaker 6 (56:57):
Wins, yeah you.

Speaker 5 (56:58):
Know in that McDaniel, reponse the one thing THAT i
took away was it sounds like the operation is.

Speaker 6 (57:03):
Dysfunctional it's just. Disorganized you need to work on.

Speaker 5 (57:06):
That which is the exact term That Shane stiken used
when describing why he Took Daniel jones Over Anthony richardson
in their quarterback, battle and obviously he was onto something
because according to this the operation was fantastic In. INDIANAPOLIS
i can understand why people didn't want to Draft Michael
pittman in their fantasy drafts because you have no confidence
In Daniel jones and it is only one. WEEK i
cautioned against overreacting because let's remember what The saints did

(57:28):
in the first two weeks last.

Speaker 6 (57:29):
Year they looked, like you, know a.

Speaker 5 (57:30):
Wagon they were an incredibly, explosive explosive offense that fell
off a cliff. Later but this is kind of a
shock to, me not that The dolphin, struggle but that
The colts were able to produce at this. Level so
we'll stay, sticking you, know giving credit where credit is,
due and that's the winners in this. Game AND i
just said that teams aren't running football. Well Jonathan taylor
AND Dj giddens combined for over one hundred and ten.

Speaker 6 (57:50):
Yards that's pretty. Good it sounds like, everything you.

Speaker 5 (57:52):
KNOW i, mean from my view of the, game everything
went pretty well for The, colts a lot better than
most people.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
Expected they, did even in run, defense where you you
wonder you look at over the course of the. Game of,
course The dolphins were trailing for a significant, amount but
we know they can be explosive in the run. Game
Devona chan had nine yards of carry in this, game
but they just didn't go to the. Run of, course
the turnover is a big part of, that where everything was.
DISJOINTED i really think it would be Easy greg to

(58:20):
listen to do vibe watch and say that this is a.
Rap this was a especially bad game for The dolphins
to Where i'm willing to throw this.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
ONE i account some of it To week.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
One they're not, good but they're, not you, know twenty
six points worse than The.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Colts they just have a Monster week, two they're they're
at home against The. Patriots you, know two teams that
are going to be zero to, one and you can
fix everything for a couple of weeks with just getting a.
Win but if they can't win that, game like the
vultures will be circling rough. Performance they're three turnovers for
to only twelve first downs for The dolphins. Offense let's

(58:59):
go To denver where the offenses were struggling as.

Speaker 13 (59:03):
Well STRAIGHT i, formation double titan said wing, right one wide,
receiver the.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Handoff this IS Jk.

Speaker 7 (59:08):
Dobbins nice patient run.

Speaker 8 (59:09):
There dubb's first through the, ten the five high steps
of the end, zone Touchdown. DENVER Jk dobbins his first
touchdown as A. Bronco it's a run of nineteen.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Yards that Was Dave logan ON Koa broncos win twenty
to twelve against The Tennessee. TITANS a very interesting. GAME
i do think this would be a fun, rewatch even
though it was. Ugly shook is giving me the. Eyes
but The titans had so many wild things. HAPPEN i

(59:43):
know they only ended up with seven first, downs but,
man they were like in an entertaining. Seven Sean payton
is just Calling gopher broke fourth and eighth's late in the.
Game The broncos are trailing against The titans for a
good chunk of. It as bad games, GO i think
this was a good bad. Game i'll stay for.

Speaker 6 (01:00:00):
THAT i gave you the eyes because this game made
my eyes. Bleed it was.

Speaker 5 (01:00:04):
TERRIBLE i mean not not terrible in terms of, watchability
but terrible if you, like you, know football that's executed
at a solid.

Speaker 6 (01:00:11):
Level The broncos played with their food this entire.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
Game now their defense is as good as we expected
them to, be AND i think that fact into why
The titans couldn't do anything with the four turnovers they.
Forced but that speaks to The broncos being. Sloppy they.
Were bonix comes out and he's just letting it, rip you.
Know he throws a fifty to fifty ball To Courtland
sutten that gets picked. Off great play By roger. McCree
he's under pressure and steps up as if he's going
to escape the pocket and then throws a pass into.

(01:00:36):
Traffic he didn't see the, defender you, know a drifting
underneath to pick that one. Off so he's got two
picks in his. Ledger he fumbles when he's trying to
escape the. Pocket that's the third. One then they, fumble
they muff a. Punt The titans did nothing with basically
any of. That they finished with twelve. Points they're all
on field. Goals The broncos could have won this game
in their, sleep and that's why they go for it
on fourth and eight and just chuck the ball down
the field because they don't care they're giving up field.

(01:00:56):
Position in the final minute and a half of the,
game they just got two stops in the fourth quarter
there because cam mord is surrounded by spare. Parts titans,
fans you have your. Quarterback he has a strong, arm
he looks the. Part he put a number of good
passes on receivers in this game that.

Speaker 6 (01:01:11):
Dropped they were. Dropped they failed.

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
Him it was just an example of a team that
made the playoffs last year and is looking to continue to.
Build but it's week, one so they're shaking off the
rust and it's A titans team that's still two years away,
from you, know thinking about the.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Playoffs, well he had chances on that last, drive and
SO i think his accuracy and his timing is not
there one hundred. Percent yet you wouldn't expect the timing
to be there with this receiver, group Like Tyler lockett
did not have a catch. TODAY i heard some concerning
whispers about how he looked in training camp and just

(01:01:45):
just in the practices that you, know like is he
going to be a guy who really HELPS i, mean
he was signed for four million. Dollars there was a
reason for, that so he WARD i thought had a
chance there, Late but, MAN i thought that was one
of the biggest look at me calls of all time
By sean bay and to go for it at fourth
and eight and call that And Bo nicks had.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
A wide Open Courtland.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
SUTTON i believe that would have Made Sean payton look
like a, genius but he did not see.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
It, yeah they had the crossers And bow went with
the one that the defenders actually went.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
With if you go, back if you want to WATCH.

Speaker 4 (01:02:18):
Skycamvu or on Next gen, stats if you want to
look at the, dots no matter how you look at,
It Cortland sutton is all alone and heading towards the
end zone on that. Play it was just Either knicks
didn't see. Him the pressure was, there but In peyton's,
defense the call was. There, yeah and in The titans
defense they they had several opportunities to shit pointed out

(01:02:38):
to ultimately win this. Game there was a huge play
that could have led to another possession Where Jeffrey simmons
for some reason is PUSHING i BELIEVE. R. J harvey
down like a full second after the whistle was. Blown
that extended a drive WHERE i coming into this game
obviously like you made it your survivor pick and Congratulations

(01:02:58):
greg to survive in this. One but there were similarly
Like cam wore throwing seam, balls firing them in there with.
Confidence they just had a lot of heat on. Them
maybe they'll be, adjustments as you, said the unfamiliar targets
on the. Outside but there was a lot of positives
to take away from Cam ward going on the road
against a Good broncos.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
Defense to, ME i, know it's weak one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
And, YEAH i mean they averaged two point four yards
for play and they had one hundred and thirty three.
Yards and this was not one of those games like
we talked about the packers and lines where it like
shortened because there's only seven or eight. Drives each of
these teams had fourteen drives, today. SHOOK I, actually from
WHAT i, saw it was one of the worst games
of Bo nix's.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Career do you disagree with?

Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
ME m not, entirely because he had a stretch like
late in last season where he started to turn the
ball over a.

Speaker 6 (01:03:48):
Lot he got.

Speaker 5 (01:03:50):
It they really won this game because they decided to
turn it the. Run Nargi harvey ripped off a fifty
yarder and Then dobbin scored that touchdown that we just played,
LIKE i guess WHEN i said that they played with their,
fee you could see that the potential was. There it's
just like they everything wasn't, sharp at least not until
the second. Half AND i think a little bit it
was Bo nick's coming to the game with a lot
of confidence from last year and just letting it rip

(01:04:11):
and kind of paying the price a little, bit like
a better team makes them pay for this and they
lose this, game which is, okay and week one when
you're playing The, titans which we kind of justify your.
Claim BUT i wouldn't be like overly concerned BECAUSE i
feel like they were kind of testing some things out
and they. Knew at one point in the, game they're, like,
look our defense is not going to give up a,
score like unless something miraculous happens, around like we would
give up a, score so we can get a little

(01:04:32):
aggressive and kind of tinker a little. Bit it felt
like a big tinker game for The broncos once they
got head by eight.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Points, yeah if we didn't make it clear that The
titans did not score a touchdown in this, game it
was For joey sly field goals and uh, yeah Bo
nix ends up with three. Turnovers he lost the fumble
he was intercepted. Twice he threw the ball forty times
and average under five yards per attempt under four and a.
Half So i'm calling that one of the worst games

(01:04:59):
of his. Career it was a survivor pick THAT i,
survived and it felt like just barely. Surviving Nick, schook
you've done more than. Survive oh, yeah we got the.
Music you've done a fantastic. Job what we're gonna do
now is we're gonna say goodbye to you for a little.
Bit we're gonna welcome In Jordan rodriek for a, segment

(01:05:21):
and then we're gonna see you to Recap Sunday night.
Football so see you in a little, bit little.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Buddy we'll be back in a.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Break, YES i just Called Nick schuck little. Buddy what
is wrong with?

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Me where did that come? From my? Brain i've been
up since three thirty. Am i'm not.

Speaker 7 (01:05:37):
Lying Trevor lawrence under, center play. Fake trevor rowls to the,
right looks fire for the end of.

Speaker 9 (01:05:50):
The Putam jackson though put them from six yards.

Speaker 7 (01:05:57):
Away The jags are in the end bye.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Today that Was Frank frangie of wj X. L Trevor
lawrence To hunter for a. Touchdown not the one we,
expected but the Former. Rams they're Finding rams In. Jacksonville
your old, Friend James. Gladstone, Yes jordan rodrieg is joining
us for this next four pack of. Games The jaguars

(01:06:25):
win twenty six to. TEN i watched this game, Closely
jordan AND i have another omen very first series of this,
Game jaguars start with the ball fourth and one on
their own thirty, seven literally the fourth play of their.

(01:06:45):
Season Does Liam cohen, say, oh let's punt it, away
we're on our own thirty seven, yardland or does he
Say i've got the hutzpah to go for it right
off the, bat the belief in my offensive, line in my. Offense,
yeah he goes for fourth and one on his own
thirty seven right off the bat To Diami, brown and
he picks it up easily on kind of end around

(01:07:08):
type of.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Play and it was part of a day where they
just dominated on the.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Ground the two thousand and twenty Five Carolina panthers run
defense looked a lot like the twenty twenty Four Carolina
panthers run, defense giving up two hundred yards to the Drag.
Jaguars travis etn with one hundred and forty. Three this
game felt pretty over by. Halftime there was a long

(01:07:33):
lightning delay THAT i had to wait about an HOUR
i think in fifteen minutes for that broke up some
of the. Scoring but Basically jacksonville did whatever they wanted
and then we were just killing time after.

Speaker 21 (01:07:45):
That it's a huge problem because this is the part
Of carolina's defense that they at least expected to look,
better especially r out of the.

Speaker 22 (01:07:53):
Gate Derek brown is, Back Bobby brown.

Speaker 21 (01:07:56):
Is lining up next to. Him this is a group where,
yes there's been to, say my prerogative is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
So bad right, now that's his. Predrogative, yes you gotta.

Speaker 21 (01:08:04):
Close the, bit you, know got it nailed, it ran over,
here ran over here from the. Stadium but, yeah That's
they've had questions about their, secondary their, safeties injuries on
and off over the last couple of. Years this was
supposed to be the get back that they got. Back
Derek brown was supposed to be that. Factor and it's one,
game it's week, one but, man the two Former Tampa

(01:08:26):
Bay buccaneers offensive coordinators dueling it out against each. Other
Liam cohen squad obviously looked a lot more, polished.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
Right And Liam cohen squad last year With tampa put
it On carolina for about five hundred yards per game
when he was With, tampa and, honestly they looked kind
of like The bucks in the first.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
HALF i was so.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Impressed and in the, End Trevor lawrence's numbers don't look that.
Amazing one to seventy. Eight the game slowed down in
the second. Half they just had a couple of field goal.
Drives but WHAT i saw was that there was a
lot of cohesion in the running games, specifically and this
is not an offensive line that you think of as
having been particularly cohesive in the, past and they're blowing open.

(01:09:04):
HOLES i thought that seventy one yard run By etn
was one of the best runs of his careers because
he showed a lot of. PATIENCE i Think trevor was
really on time and on target for those first four
drives or. So they put up twenty points in their
first four, drives and, then LIKE i, said it just got.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Quiet BUT i was.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
IMPRESSED i think if you're A jaguars fan and you
look At Brian thomas ends up with eleven, Yards Travis
hunter doesn't do that much as a, receiver and yet
you won like going away without much from those two.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Guys it's pretty. Impressive, yeah AND i can.

Speaker 4 (01:09:37):
Make Another Gladstone rams reference where the play To Diamie
brown on fourth down remounting me Of Cooper cup in
The Super.

Speaker 23 (01:09:43):
Bowl oh my, GOD i saw two of those today
by m McVeigh. Tree people, like that's. Awesome, yes it's
the play that will never die.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Ever it, works it works.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
Consistently the new acquisition gets used. There Brian Thomas, junior
again you mentioned. It not very involved in the passing,
game but he gets in the end zone as you
see the commitment to the run game by These jags
on a. Carry and, yeah the answer to the Great
jags backfield trivia question ultimately Was Travis. Etn, yes getting
way more opportunity than the. Tank, Basically Baseial tutant comes

(01:10:15):
in in relief Of etn because, honestly at eight point
nine yards of, Carry travis was tiring himself.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Out oh, yeah he's only tired because that was after
the seventy one yard. Dard AND i gotta Say Basil
tuton's first, run, MAN i love. That, yeah it was
an eight yard run where he had the jump stop
AND i was, Like, oh that's my favorite Run i've
seen all. Day SO i think we will hear From Basil,
tutant but that is tough to. Him, yes you absolutely
nailed it with Some basial tutan honking in the, Preseason,
Greg she's coming. In she's hitting home runs right off the.

(01:10:42):
Bat SO i took this game myself BECAUSE i wanted
to See Travis. Hunter it was a quiet. Day six
catches thirty three. YARDS a lot of them weren't really
in the flow of the. Offense they were kind of manufactured.
Touches he played six snaps on. Defense he was in
zone coverage on a play where he gave up a
first down To teed.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
McMillan i'm pretty sure it was.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Nothing remarkable really on either side of the. Ball but
the fact that The Brenton strange hype from the preseason
and offseason. Capitalized he was a really important part of their,
OFFENSE i think that was a good. Sign and on
the flip, side The panthers were a total. Mess like
the run defense was a. Disaster the defense couldn't get
any stops. Early they stabilized in the second, half But

(01:11:28):
brysong had one of the worst games since he was,
benched maybe the worst game since he was benched after
two games last. Year at one point he was eight
for seventeen for fifty six yards with a couple. Turnovers
he added another turnover late on what ultimately was a,
drop but he also had a pick six that was
on a totally ghastly decision that was taken back by a.

(01:11:50):
Penalty so it was about as bad as it as it.
LOOKED i actually feel bad about doing, this but we
were talking about you wanting to make the worst throw
of the, year like a Thing, patrick and SO i
do have a clip Of Bryce young making a toss.

Speaker 7 (01:12:09):
Here it's fourth in a yard and an empty. Backfield
The young drops.

Speaker 15 (01:12:13):
Gop, look he's gonna have to throw it In tony,
handle complete going out of the back.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Of the end.

Speaker 18 (01:12:18):
Zone thatts it incomplete pass and the ball's gonna go
over on.

Speaker 7 (01:12:21):
Down what worked by?

Speaker 13 (01:12:23):
That Jack Morris, Cliff, WOW i can't believe That Bryce
young threw it out of the back of the end
zone to throw it.

Speaker 9 (01:12:31):
Away you gotta give your guys.

Speaker 7 (01:12:32):
A chance's fourth.

Speaker 5 (01:12:33):
DOWN i love.

Speaker 22 (01:12:35):
IT i love how complimented the text defense did nothing on.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
THAT i Love.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
Bryce it's a long.

Speaker 4 (01:12:43):
Season there is only one choice for What tony leader
in the, clubhouse and It's Bryce young putting it in the.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
Sands for the one it's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Well the crazy thing, is when you watched the, replay
he had an open receiver he ACTUALLY i think some
color flat in front of him to use some football,
jargon and he clearly didn't. SEE i think it Was
Jatavian sanders flashing open right in front of, him but
he had two. Options as he was, scrambling he must
have lost track of what down it was and he

(01:13:14):
throws it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Away so our early worst throw of the year.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
Candidate it was.

Speaker 21 (01:13:18):
BAD i caught the, condensed very fast version of, this
and there were center timing snap, issues there were center
exchange issues the entire. GAME i was talking with my
Colleague Joe, person And joe wrote in his column post
game it just seemed Like Dave kanalis did not have
this group. Prepared they just and in juxtaposition TO i
guess the pleasant surprise of first year head Coach Liam

(01:13:38):
cohen and those guys and how they were ready to.
Roll it was very stark for someone who was there watching,
it and.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
It was a big factor that ike Ikei ikwan was
out for this, game and they Played Yosh NIGEMAN i,
believe who used to be with The, packers And josh
Heinz allen was the most dominant player in this, game
and a lot of it was On. Nyman he had
six quick, pressures Which i'm sure will be the most
of any player in the ENTIRE nfl all, Week so

(01:14:07):
that injury played a big. Factor good job by The
jaguars getting to one and. Zero let's go to The
superdome in a game that looked like two pretty even.

Speaker 16 (01:14:19):
Teams four seconds, left final play of the, game fourth
down ball on the eighteen of The. Cardinals rattler back to, pass,
looking throws left side and it's thrown out of. Bounds
in complete and the game is. Over The cardinals Win
week one In New orleans twenty to.

Speaker 21 (01:14:35):
Thirteen oh photographer catches a big stray there in the end.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Zone, yes and unfortunate fourth down throwing the ball out of.
Bounds we give, You Spencer rattler on what WAS i
believe a fourth and goal chance to tie the.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Game twenty to.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
Thirteen The saints go down in a game where if
you look at the, stats and this was really true
throughout the, day it wasn't them up at the, end
there was very little separating these two. Teams it looked
pretty even and The saints ultimately just couldn't finish. Drives

(01:15:12):
they put a lot On Spencer rattler's. Plate he threw
the ball forty six. Times patrick and The cardinals wasn't.
Perfect it's week. One it's just survive in, advance especially
for these teams that have high aspirations in games that
they should.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Win no style. Points it's. Fine you got out of
there with the. Win move.

Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
On, yeah and my expectations were completely wrong in this
game in the way that the new head, coach you,
know they come over Dus Kellen moore from The Super
bowl champions two thousand yard. RUSHER i, Thought Spencer ratler
still looking for his first career. Win they're going to
lean On Alvin kamara and the big guys up. Front,
no it was airing it out With Spencer ratler for

(01:15:51):
the duration of the. Game Alvin kamara did have a
touchdown run where he looked like VINTAGE, ak kind of
smoothly gliding into the end zone and making those adjusts
with the ball in his. Hands but it was a
lot of rattler, throws a lot Of Jwan johnson involved
in this, game especially down the scene where The cardinals
couldn't pull. Away there was the first completion To Marvin

(01:16:14):
Harrison junior of the season was a bomb From Kyler.
Murray they eventually pay that off with a crosser Where
wilson comes up and sets a little bit of a
screen that doesn't get. Called as we were favoring offense
today On Game Day live With Steve Smith senior, saying
there was no penalties on the offense, today but it
can a little bit of a concerning win for The

(01:16:35):
cardinals over a team that we thought might be in
position to take the number one overall pick come next.
Year where The saints really held in onto this game
and had a lot of chances to.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
Win, yeah yards for, play you, know overall yards The
saints were a little. Better you Mentioned Juwan, johnson who
goes eight for seventy SIX Nfl daily guest was a.
DELIGHT i think the biggest play of the game was
ultimately the third down Where aler makes a nice throw
and Hits Juwan johnson in the. Hands would have tied
it up assuming they hit the extra. Point that was

(01:17:07):
the play before the one we listened. To it was
tough to see on replay if it was jostled, out
he definitely was hit or whether you Know Buddha baker
actually even got his hands on the. Ball but the
coolest play of the day was our, Guy Buddha, baker you,
know knocking that play out essentially and then doing a
kickflip off The superdome turf like basically for what was

(01:17:29):
the game winning.

Speaker 21 (01:17:30):
Play he is one of the coolest players in THE, nfl. Honestly,
yeah The cardinals let The saints hang around a little too.
LONG i think part of it's The saints know there's
nothing to lose literally this. Season they have to go
out and play every single game like it's the biggest
game of their. Season other teams are kind of looking
At week. One i'm not saying they counted them out at,
all but other teams are just not quite cohesive. Yet
In week, one The cardinals kind of just took their

(01:17:52):
foot off the gas a little. Bit it seemed, LIKE
i want to shout Out Will. Johnson you said the
coolest play of the. GAME i, Mean Will. JOHNSON i
went back AND i watched the quick clips WHILE i
was sitting in the in the wings listening to.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
You you made good time coming from the rams were
earlier that we.

Speaker 23 (01:18:06):
Expected i'm so shiny right now. TOO i ran so
fast it was so hot. Outside BUT i was watching
like the quick clips and the cutups Of Will. Johnson the,
corner the rookie. Corner he targeted seven, times defended three,
passes allowed just thirty two yards on four, catches and
the best play of the, game in my opinion of
the limited viewing THAT i, had was him crashing down

(01:18:27):
and reading A Chris olave motion on a, second second
and long And Chris alave was supposed to be an,
outlet little outlet For Spencer rattler on the, play and
he Hit Chris olave so hard out of pure read
and knowledge understanding this play and what was supposed to.
Happen he hit him so hard that krisl Love like
had a hard time catching his breath, afterward catching his.
Wind if he keeps playing like, this he is on a, really,

(01:18:49):
really really interesting track as a.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
ROOKIE i love it when two of my favorite football
minds come together on an. Opinion BECAUSE i asked our
Friend adam from The Saints Block Party, podcast any thoughts
from this, game and he thought the cornerbacks for The
cardinals were just all over The saints' receivers that they're
just were not open receivers throughout the, day which matched

(01:19:12):
a lot of what you heard In saints practice. Too
you weren't seeing a lot of open, receivers So kellen's
struggling to scheme them open or the receiver struggling to get.
Open but that's a good sign for a really good
young secondary, yet and it was surprising because their success
rate on their runs was quite. High it was forty
six five, percent which is really, good and it was
close to the whole, game and they just didn't run
the ball. Much and So Kellen moore had one really

(01:19:35):
big moment THAT i thought he was in over his
head where at the end of the first, half The
cardinals are running the clock down ultimately that they score
a touchdown with twenty eight seconds to go and they're
inside the ten and The saints just let them do
it with all three. Timeouts kellen just you, know like
on first and second, down The cardinals kind of went
out of their way to drain the clock before scoring the.

(01:19:57):
Touchdown now that it could have ended up a field,
goal but either, way and he just let it happen
and then kneeled on the. Ball i'm, like, bro you gotta,
like this is THE. Nfl you got to use those
timeouts like A madden player knows how to did. It
SO i think he was showing a little bit of
a rookie head.

Speaker 23 (01:20:13):
Coach it's possible you forget sometimes you're supposed to be
the one, who's, yeah, man who's doing that in the
headset and you're on the wrong.

Speaker 22 (01:20:20):
Channel, maybe LIKE i just it's. You just you're, like.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
OH i was, like someone should be telling him to
take these timeouts that the broadcast WAS i think it
Was Ross tucker who was hammering about it's a good job.

Speaker 22 (01:20:29):
By you're, like, well, shoot that's. Me i'm supposed to
be doing.

Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
That, actually maybe an adjustment to the. Process he's on
the sideline With Brandon. Saley maybe he's looking Over Brandon, staley,
uh saying that he's he's in that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
Situation this guy's really. Intense they, were, uh you know
when when they were with The.

Speaker 4 (01:20:44):
Chargers but there was another uh a quarterback sneak By
Spencer rattler Where, uh The saints offensive lineman lined up in.
Properly one of them actually lined up off, Sides and
you think about all the shove success That Kellen moore
called In, philadelphia trying to get used to things to.
PROCESS i feel better about The. Sciints, yeah after this
game THAN i did before coming into.

Speaker 19 (01:21:06):
It.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
Absolutely the fact that they outgained into, another you, know
competitive team by by forty. Yards, Absolutely and if you're The,
cardinals you're a little concerned about like the target. Depth
harrison and McBride both have really good. Games no one
else has over ten, yards so you're gonna have to
develop more options. There all, right let's get to The
Jordan rodrieg special. Game she was focusing in on a

(01:21:29):
couple of, them including one In.

Speaker 17 (01:21:32):
Washington wheels, around takes a, handoff spins back to the,
left has a wall in front of.

Speaker 7 (01:21:38):
Them at the fifteen, break the tackle of ten took hard,
touchdown touch down Washingon Devo. Sze that was talk to.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
Profession oh so great Having Ram weinstein back in our.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
Life Lennon fletcher also in the. Booth didn't hear him,
there but that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Guy twenty one to, six The Washington commanders win in
a game that looked like the score just one. Sided
not too, flashy but pretty cool to See Deebo samuel
there with a rushing. Touchdown also led them in receiving
with seventy seven yards on seven.

Speaker 21 (01:22:18):
Catches, yeah and was all over the, field like some
people were saying after being a training, CAMP i, mean.

Speaker 23 (01:22:24):
Tooting my own horn, again all over it, baseial tooting
my own horn. Again but that play was the backbreaking
moment and kind of This this game was kind of
ugly through most of.

Speaker 21 (01:22:33):
It they'd been playing with their food a. Little there's
a little sloppiness in the whole. Operation, Offensively jane And
daniels overthrew a couple sure. Touchdowns he was trying to
get a connection going early on in the. Game there
was a couple there's a bad mental mistake to a
clock runoff out of the grounding penalty that they just.

Speaker 22 (01:22:49):
Weren't they were a little loose at.

Speaker 21 (01:22:51):
Times but other than, that there were all these flashes
that this was The jade And daniels. Commanders he was
so calm the entire. Time they were running him on
these really cool design runs where they would intentionally align
to spread out That giant's fearsome front and then he
just goes zoop right up the middle and have these huge.

Speaker 22 (01:23:09):
Gains so that was really.

Speaker 21 (01:23:10):
Impressive but this was really They they for the most,
part they looked like the commanders we expect out, of you,
know some of the looseness that comes.

Speaker 22 (01:23:17):
With week One.

Speaker 21 (01:23:20):
Giants Quarterback Russell wilson out of that, touchdown he made
a few nice. Throws the pressure got to him on
the third and fourth, down and then he was then
he was. Picked he was bailed out by A roughi
the passer. Call Bobby wagner like, accidentally like palm slapped
him on the helmet and then.

Speaker 22 (01:23:36):
Got bailed out by the.

Speaker 21 (01:23:37):
Call and then they got all the way down to
The washington, three and they kept throwing it because they
could not. Run and then they had another batted ball
By Bobby wagner and two incompletions and that was the
story of the game for The giants, offense who overall
ran eleven plays inside the ten and came away with just.

Speaker 22 (01:23:54):
Three, points including a turnover on downs.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Late it was, awful right talking about the design runs
And Russell wilson had a couple, scrambles But, Tyrone tracy
goes ten for twenty, Four Kim scattabu gets a couple,
carries ends up with negative, yardage And Devin singletary three for.
Nine and, yes they struggled in the red, zone but
they struggled. Everywhere, yeah you know they this was a
game where they got basically doubled up in. YARDAGE i

(01:24:21):
Thought Trey amos made a nice play on a deep
throw to my leak neighbors a couple of. PLAYS i
saw the, young you, Know washington cornerback show up in
a way that they have to be excited. About but
it was bad enough offensively That Brian dable got the
questions we kind of expected after the, game will you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
Consider Starring jackson next?

Speaker 7 (01:24:46):
Week?

Speaker 19 (01:24:46):
Yeah, look we're going to get Home, Pat we're gonna
look at our game.

Speaker 6 (01:24:52):
Collectively we all got to do.

Speaker 21 (01:24:53):
Better there are a couple things on this THAT i
was really paying trying to pick close attention. To WHETHER
i was like sort of scouring the beat writers post
on various social media, platforms and then also like looking
on the. Broadcast one of the things that was super
interesting to me Was Brian dable walking out onto the
field for pregame warmups With Jackson dart and then you
know week one of The Russell wilson, experience and this

(01:25:14):
was already coming into it reading reports about there's a
package of plays For Jackson dart just in, case and
the commanders are preparing for this certain package of, plays
And Russell wilson just looked so uncomfortable and out of
sync the entire. Time he was pressured at a fifty
percent rate by the end of the, game which is,
insane and it was coming from. Everywhere the interior of

(01:25:36):
this Rebuilt commander's. Line defensive line was getting some good
push and disrupting his pocket on the, insides and then
the edge guys were containing and making some plays where
they had. Him obviously the linebackers are a factor here.
Too he just could not get any sort of rhythm.

Speaker 22 (01:25:53):
GOING i, mean this WAS i.

Speaker 21 (01:25:54):
KNEW i knew that this is probably happening, Soon like
this has got to happen, soon because when The giants
offense got to The washington ten yard, line that was
A Malik neighbors twenty five yard pickup out of a
blitz pick up By Camps, kataboo WHICH i texted You,
GREG i was like Camp.

Speaker 22 (01:26:09):
Skataboo just killed a.

Speaker 21 (01:26:10):
Guy they ran seven plays from that position after that explosive,
gain and then they settled for a field goal from
the two yard line because after they got a fresh
set of, Downs Brian dable got to you, know third
and two again and was, LIKE i can't watch this.
ANYMORE i got to kick a field. Goal i'm AFRAID
i won't get. POINTS i think this is happening.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
Soon, oh it's.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
Happening like my immediate reaction from that clip Is he's,
gone that's.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
It it's this.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
Week it's it's the most tried and true rule of
where of Which i've just put out AND i should
do it now like year after. Year if they don't
answer the question of who's the, quarterback well then they're
making the.

Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
Change if folks want to listen to it, again the
first thing he says is.

Speaker 4 (01:26:52):
Yeah like he's, like, Yeah we're like And i'm not
saying that was a confirmation that he' said Right Star Jackson.
Dart but because the package of plays being discussed so,
vigorously and As.

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
Jordan pointed, out drive after.

Speaker 4 (01:27:04):
Drive coming up, Short dables having a heated argument with
the league neighbors coming off the. Sideline it's, like, Oh
jackson darted at any. Point Jackson dart is the future
of The giants. Franchise he's also a job saving mechanism
For brian day ball and so you can't throw him
in in this situation against an opponent that's very familiar
with your. Offense Dan quinn company have seen a whole

(01:27:25):
lot Of Brian daboles offense and how it's gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
Work of course not With Jackson.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
Dark, yeah but they didn't stop it last. Year it
was two of their worst games of the year was
actually Against Daniel. JONES i Mean Daniel jones is two
best games of the. Year it is essentially Against. Washington
SO i think it will stick In brian dables head
that like a year, ago our offense With Daniel jones
was way better than this And Russell wilson not helped
By Andrew thomas not being, available there's a lot of.

(01:27:50):
Pressure Russell wilson also invites a lot of pressure by
holding on to the ball. Ugly wouldn't be surprised if
we find Out monday Or tuesday they have a new
quarterback and then finally just out To Bill krofsky. Merrit
it was quiet early in the, game was getting a little,
worried but he came through for you a forty two yard,
run ten for eighty two on the ground and a.
Touchdown let's now go across the street Where jordan was

(01:28:14):
in person watching The Los Angeles rams win a defensive.

Speaker 16 (01:28:18):
Struggle one time out remaining for The texans open, up light,
play big put.

Speaker 11 (01:28:24):
To the flat Pap nicua the.

Speaker 8 (01:28:26):
Thirty he got a first out the Forty Pooka.

Speaker 16 (01:28:28):
Nakua stayed in bounds across midfield and tackled on his
Sideline nakua for the win From Matthew stafford twenty four to.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
Quinchits that WAS Jb long ON Kspn Puka nakua on
a great play call By sean.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
McVay felt like there were a lot of those.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
Today despite the final score being so low fourteen to,
nine The rams win it in a game where neither
team had three hundred yards from. Scrimmage continued the trend
throughout the league of not great, running not great offense in.
General and, YEAH i think there were a lot of
positive signs like that last play by The.

Speaker 21 (01:29:09):
Rams, yeah And Puka, nakua by the, way who had
to leave the game at one point to go get
stitches in his face because he was bleeding profusely from
above his eyebrow after taking a huge. Hit and then
the second he's all stitched up and bandaged up and
comes back into the, game he runs a nineteen yard
dig and it's, like you, know it's, like which is

(01:29:30):
a contact play because those defenders are crashing into you
in the middle of the field once you get. There
he was welcoming the contact because you needed to in this,
game because this game was a freaking rock, fight you.
Guys like from that very first, play the third and
two The DeVante adams converts and gets bent literally in,
half you, know by a double, hit And Derek stingley

(01:29:52):
juniors on the back side of that and actually takes
some incidental, contact bangs his shoulder, up comes back. In
this game was so it's like drunk gungles trying to
punch each. Other it, was seriously but there was BUT
i don't, think AND i, pause that this was not
your typical, like, oh it's an ugly win or it's
an ugly loss or. Whatever there was some real toughness.
Here there were some really nice ideas. Here this wasn't

(01:30:15):
two teams just like slap fighting each. Other this was, actual, like,
hey we are two of the tougher teams and we
want to show that in THE.

Speaker 22 (01:30:22):
Nfl and that's WHAT i thought out of this. Game
both teams Including.

Speaker 4 (01:30:24):
Houston, yeah two of the best pass rushes in THE.
Nfl and in terms of the talent on The texans,
defense it leaps off the. Screen but Also Matthew stafford
fully upright fully, operational making throws off his back. Foot
there was a timing ball that was just. Perfect there
were so many moments where it's like that's, It, yeah
that's number. Nine HAD I i would have never picked

(01:30:45):
The texans IF i out of known nine was going
to be moving like that against a very good. Passwords
there were some dangerous moments where there was a high
snap that got away from matt and he was flat
on his back AND, i, Oh Bill Anderson junior is
clar like ten times out of, ten gotta get there
Before Matt stafford. Does But stafford's able to get on
top of, it so it's not ten out of. Ten
and there was a moment in this fourth quarter Where

(01:31:07):
i'm thinking this is a Classic sean, McVay constricted to drive,
circumstances locating where they are gonna have timely screen, Calls
they're gonna get the ball out Of stafford's, Hand we're
going to be passing in run situations and running in pass.
Situations and it was enough to Keep dimico's defense off
off of what they were looking for and drain the

(01:31:28):
clock out with The puka, catch as with the ever
expanding bandage where he kept going into the blue, tent
AND i was glad to see him with his helmet
off after the game BECAUSE i was concerned the forehead was.

Speaker 22 (01:31:37):
Gone, WELL i talked to someone with the.

Speaker 21 (01:31:39):
Team the stitches kept coming, out so you're getting you're
not only getting stitched in game he was in the locker,
room but then also they kept coming out because he's
taking so much contact throughout the rest of the. Game
you Mentioned Matthew stafford some of the unconscious throws that he.
MADE i would say it might have been a cooler
catch than, throw but maybe this is a. Candidate we'll
go back to it where we visit the film at

(01:31:59):
the end of this. Year there was a throw that
he made To DeVante, adams who had a quietly really great.
Game he was being shadowed most of the time By
Derek Stingley, junior and he he basically flipped his hips
to turn a back shoulder ball into a front shoulder
ball And Matthew stafford read it right before the ball
came out of his hand and he placed it so

(01:32:19):
perfectly Because Derek Stingley junior had the backside leverage and
it was it was down the, sideline it was right
in front Of sean. McVay i Thought sean McVay was
going to pass. Out he was like, So AND i will,
say like that is this. Team that's what this team
wants to, be the combination of toughness and. Finesse on the,
converse that's what The Houston texans want to, be and
they keep Losing. Lineman greg you were talking about Omens

(01:32:40):
Cam robinson holding penalty on the very first. Snap there
left tackle that they brought in holding penalty on the
very first offensive, snap and Then Cam robinson left with
an injury and then he came back In Jake andrews
the center left and then he never came.

Speaker 22 (01:32:53):
Back this was a brutal fight of a.

Speaker 1 (01:32:57):
Game, Yeah AND i think it's a great thing that
The rams can win games like, this that the defense
is coming around where you think of them as a tough.
Defense And Devonte adams ends up with four for fifty.
One but it felt like at least two of those
catches THAT i can remember are just like catches no
one else is. Making and, yeah he's soaking up, Now Derek,

(01:33:19):
stingley While pooka gets ten for one, thirty so he's
proving his value. THERE i also Think sean, McVay who
found fourth down religion because he read an article By Jordan,
Rodrigue Like i'm only slightly, exaggerating helped win the game
by going for fourth down in the first. Half In
Kyron williams scores a touchdown on that and a key

(01:33:40):
sequence in the first.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
Half let's hear about another key. Sequence and this is.

Speaker 22 (01:33:47):
Before this is when the game got, drunk, right this
is when.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
The game got.

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
Drunk Before pooka ice the. Game The texans were driving
for what they were hoping would be a game winning.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
Touchdown crowd and.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
He's got him underneath.

Speaker 7 (01:34:07):
Covered what a playbold?

Speaker 22 (01:34:18):
Man who better than to put the ball on the
ground than a guy Named Nate. Landman AM i?

Speaker 23 (01:34:25):
Right that punch out classic moment right?

Speaker 7 (01:34:27):
There?

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
Better but Then Kevin Harlan and then who better to
hear the word Land man from Than Trent.

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
Green somehow it all came.

Speaker 22 (01:34:37):
Together Braden fisk recovered. It he's quite you.

Speaker 21 (01:34:39):
Know he put together a runner up season For Defensive
rookie of The year last year and is already starting
out really. Well they were rushing him out as a
wide nine a little this this game and part of
you're gonna see a little bit more of.

Speaker 22 (01:34:53):
THAT i want to use this talk about C. J
stroud a little bit more BECAUSE i want to be
fair to.

Speaker 21 (01:34:58):
HIM i think that with what he had and what
the types of pressure they were, BRINGING i think he
did pretty well for the most part him. Himself, obviously
there were still some protection issues when he had his
starting offensive. Line they allowed thirteen pressures per next, gen
which is not. Great then obviously that starts missing losing
guys in the third, quarter and Then i'm not really
calculating it from, there BUT i thought with what they were,

(01:35:18):
bringing they were widening and condensing their fronts like, crazy
and they were really trying to go against this stright
tackle Arionte, urzi Who rams players were complimenting postgame For
howie handled all the. Stuff they were overloading on his.
Side they were sending safety blitzz they were doing all
of this, stuff and the goal they were telling me
was to OVERLOAD. Cj stroud pre snap because they weren't

(01:35:38):
sure how much help he would be getting from his offensive.
Line so this was a problem last. YEAR i think
there are more answers this. Year C. J stroud baited
the rush a couple of times really, well and he
also baited The rams to. Overrush that's a Little Nick
kayley who was with The rams last year Watching Jared
vers And Byron young rush around the cup of the
quarterback essentially so the quarterback can run up through that,
space and that is that's really.

Speaker 22 (01:36:00):
Smart that's smart. Football THAT'S.

Speaker 21 (01:36:02):
Cj stroud navigating the, game navigating the pressure really really.
Well so while the stats don't really show what he
was actually able to, DO i do have optimism about
how they're going to handle some of this pressure they'll
see moving.

Speaker 22 (01:36:13):
Forward certainly it won't be at this caliber all.

Speaker 2 (01:36:15):
Year, yeah it was a little bit of a.

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
Surprise the Okie doke usk by putting nursery at right
tackle to start this. Game everyone Thought i'd be on
the left, side And Cam robinson did. Start they didn't
have a ton of. Plays neither team really did fifty
seven snaps. Overall Nico collins held to twenty five. Yards
no receiver for The, texans and they didn't Have Christian
kirk available for this. Game had thirty two. Yards but
we talked about answers and some things looking a little.

(01:36:37):
Better Nick, CHUBB i thought ran pretty. Well had four
zero point six yards per. Carry they actually had a
decent success rate when they tried to run the, ball
at least With Nick, chubb and so there were some,
positives but The texans start out with a road loss
against a tough. Opponent, jordan you're going to be with
us on These sunday, shows looking forward to at. All

(01:36:59):
patrick's had a long day here cranking out highlights ON Nfl.
Network so we thank you, both and we are going
to take one more break and we will be moving
on To Sunday Night.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
Football first recap show, There, jordan DID i do? It let's?

Speaker 7 (01:37:14):
Go you did?

Speaker 22 (01:37:15):
IT i blacked, Out DID i do?

Speaker 7 (01:37:16):
It you did the damn?

Speaker 23 (01:37:17):
Thing.

Speaker 19 (01:37:18):
Expertly this will be a thirty two yard attempt from
the left hash for what could be the. Victory they're
going to run the clock, down so it is down
to three. Seconds here's the, snap hold us, down kick on.

Speaker 18 (01:37:39):
The, way and it is good And Matt, crater in
his first game as A Buffalo, bill has won the ball.
Game here In week, one The bills were down by
fifteen in the fourth.

Speaker 7 (01:37:55):
Quarter they come all the way back to win the
game at the.

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
Gun Chris brown of w G R, caps what was
the game of the day might be the game of the.
Year it's one of the best games in the history
of the Ralph i'll say it certainly one of the
Best sunday night football games of all, time the best
comeback Of Josh allen's. Career forty one to, forty The

(01:38:24):
Buffalo bills score sixteen points in the final four minutes
to rip a sure victory away from The Baltimore ravens
on a night where The ravens put up a forty
burger in fifty. Minutes it wasn't good, ENOUGH. Shooki there
were so many ways that The ravens could have finished

(01:38:47):
this game, out but they. Didn't but we gotta just
start just giving some love To Josh allen in this.
Offense two hundred and fifty one passing yards For Josh, Allen,
no not for the, game chok in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
Alone what a moment there In.

Speaker 5 (01:39:04):
Buffalo, Yeah, look fans started leaving the stadium when they
were down, fifteen and, frankly in my, heart my heart
left the game as well WITH i don't know less
than more than four minutes ago when The bills turned
it over on downs in the fourth, quarter down, fifteen
AND i understood what they. Left but these are the
same FANS i don't know for a generation prior that once.

Speaker 24 (01:39:24):
Saw them come back from down even more in THE
Nfc wildcard game way back AND i think it was
nineteen ninety, two and they witnessed a magical night and
no better way to close Out sunday a week one
than with an, incredible, improbable thrilling comeback like.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
This it's an all time gut punch of a regular
season loss for The. RAVENS i, mean just an absolute
all timer considering the, opponent considering the, situation leaving the
stadium was a crime against sports. Fandom they shouldn't be
allowed back in the, stadium, ever. Agains It's buffalo In.

(01:40:02):
September it's not. Cold you're playing The. Ravens Josh allen
is your, quarterback and you'll live with it for the
rest of their. LIVES i, mean that's the, punishment is
that they know who they. Are we could talk big,
picture but WHAT i want to, Do shook is go
through how that game. Ended you mentioned the turnover on

(01:40:23):
downs that The bills. Had you could say that the
comeback started in a way with The ravens three and
out with about nine minutes to, go because they had
been rolling so, much averaging about ten yards per play
until that, point literally ten yards per play until that.
Point they go three and out and they give The
bills the ball. Back that's when the scoring really. Starts

(01:40:46):
that drive ends on a fourth down, play and it
is the moment in this comeback that beyond any, other
was really really lucky and set up the collapse to.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
Follow Play here down, fifteen it's a fourth and two.

Speaker 19 (01:41:03):
Situation allan gonna work from the. Shotgun, here here's the.
Snap allen has time, now pressure coming From.

Speaker 7 (01:41:11):
Vanny throws it's high and it's Cat Keon.

Speaker 19 (01:41:15):
Coleman it may have been intended For Joson, knox But
coleman's the one that ends up with it agent zero
with a.

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
Touchdown, okay football is a lot about luck. Sometimes everything
that you hear About Josh allen and how this team came,
back and the mistakes that we're about to talk about
that The ravens, made they can all be. True and
that can also Be Josh allen's worst pass of the
night THAT i can.

Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
Remember he just sailed. It he missed, it and.

Speaker 1 (01:41:44):
Because he missed it by so, much it went all
the way To Keon, coleman who deserves credit for making
a great play.

Speaker 6 (01:41:49):
There do you see the body language though after they've.

Speaker 5 (01:41:52):
Scored did you hear the tone of the? Call did
you hear the background? Noise The bills probably didn't believe
that they were going to come back at.

Speaker 6 (01:41:58):
That, no that's, COOL a deflection went our.

Speaker 5 (01:42:01):
Way WHEN i saw, THAT i just started laughing because
it was, like, oh of, course of course they're gonna
stay in the game off of a weird deflected touchdown, Pass, Like,
okay that's, Fine, Yeah i'm sure you're Gonna now you
have to go put eight on the board, again good.
LUCK i didn't believe at that point, either but it
was a great play By Keon, coleman who made a
number of great, plays who's a great athlete and was
thinking on his.

Speaker 6 (01:42:21):
Toes they were able to react in time to catch.

Speaker 23 (01:42:23):
It.

Speaker 2 (01:42:23):
YEAH i.

Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
Was watching the game in our film, room you, know
a little studio kind of, thing And Maurice, Jones drew
And Chris rose Are they're getting ready to DO Nfl
network post, game and they were getting up to leave
to go to the set when that happens and it gets,
tipped And maurice just immediately is just, like that's youth.

Speaker 2 (01:42:44):
FOOTBALL i, QUIT i give.

Speaker 3 (01:42:46):
Up that should not.

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
Count that should not count as a. Play, Well i'll
tell you what it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
Counted and The bills defense helped really make it count
and really ratchet up the. Insanity the second that The
ravens Gave Derrick henry the ball on the ensuing, POSSESSION.

Speaker 19 (01:43:02):
I formation here For, Baltimore jackson under, center AND i
handed off To henry and he's bottled.

Speaker 7 (01:43:08):
Up the ball is.

Speaker 3 (01:43:09):
Out it's.

Speaker 7 (01:43:09):
Loose who's got the? Football it's buffalo ball at The
baltimore thirty yard. Line Terrell.

Speaker 18 (01:43:21):
Bernard, wow did it in the playoff. Game he's done it, again.
Mister fourth, quarter.

Speaker 1 (01:43:29):
They show Some bills fans in the crowd hugging each
other like they, just you, know had a newborn child
happen to you, know it was just absolutely Out Rad's
at that point of the, game they're down, eight but
it just felt, like oh my, gosh for something that
insane to. Happen Derrick, henry who was having one of

(01:43:50):
the best games of his entire, career the first game
where he's ever had three thirty yard plus, carries rushes
one hundred and sixty nine yards in two touchdowns on the,
game loses the ball To Terrell bernard and it's on first.
Down it's like before The bills even have to use
the time. Out it's before The ravens potentially drain more,

(01:44:13):
clock and it set up The bills to take. Advantage
and the thing that you got to give him credit
For shook is that when they got the ball this
time and on the ensuing, drive they didn't really waste any.
Time at that, point it kind of felt, like, oh
they're going to go cash it.

Speaker 5 (01:44:28):
In, yeah they move with the, urgency but like for further,
context Like Derek henry is in the process of detonating
The bills almost single, handedly like he was dominating. Them
and the last touchdown that The ravens scored was him
around the left, end just cruising past the, defense cruising
Past taylor rep in the end zone for a. Touchdown
it was such a frustrating night For bills fans if
somebody threw a water bottle in the end zone toward

(01:44:48):
him as he. Scored and then this is the guy who,
fumbles and who's the guy who forces the fumble none
other than defensive Tackle Ed, oliver who had a phenomenal,
knight who Stuffed henryana carry. Earlier he finished five run
tackles on run. Snaps if we're in the next gen
two run, stuffs that's one of, them and it's the
biggest one because he happens to pop the football out
and The bills are right there to. Recover and that

(01:45:09):
was the moment you saw on that picture where people are.
Hugging that's when everybody started to believe myself included to
the point WHERE i, but Oh, god you gotta be kidding.

Speaker 1 (01:45:16):
ME i, MEAN i felt sick for all The ravens
fans For, patrick for myself who picked The, ravens but
also just watching this team who played such brilliant football
for most of the, game.

Speaker 2 (01:45:32):
Just find a way to.

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
Lose but you know what was in my head and
a lot of my notes going back to watch the
first half And i'm watching the second, half a lot
of my notes were, like The bills offense is actually
playing really. Well Josh, allen despite not having the big,
numbers is playing really. Well they had twenty five points
in nine. DRIVES i believe it was before this crazy comeback.

(01:45:55):
Happened so twenty five points and nine drives is a
league leading pace of points per drive against a Good ravens,
defense they were playing. Efficient they were just stuck with
The bills defense that couldn't get Any stopson was getting run.
Over And i'm glad you pointed out At oliver who
just had a star making. Night he also had a
great sack On Lamar. Jackson so The ravens cash in

(01:46:19):
that touchdown pretty soon, thereafter but they go for two
and they do, it you, know with under two minutes
remaining to try to tie the, game and the two
point attempt. Fails could have maybe called the pass interference
on that. PLAY i thought it was close on The,
ravens but either way it. Fails The ravens still had the.

(01:46:41):
Lead get the ball. Back and here's WHERE i don't
want to kill them for running the ball twice in
a row. There but there's two MVPs in this, game
And Derrick henry's just. Fumbled you just went three and
out with a relatively conservative series before. That Derek kenry
fumble and they give the ball To, henry he gets

(01:47:02):
stuffed for one. Yard then you give the ball To
Zave flowers trying to get really. Cute that doesn't work.
Either it sets up a third and long situation for
The ravens And Lamar jackson and he Hits DeAndre hopkins
over the middle for six. Yards it's fourth and three
at that point and The bills are forced to take

(01:47:25):
their third time out with one thirty three to. Go
did you want them to take a chance and go
for it there on fourth?

Speaker 10 (01:47:35):
Down?

Speaker 2 (01:47:35):
Nick and why is your answer? Yes and why is
it wrong if it's not? Yes, well in.

Speaker 6 (01:47:41):
Terms of deeal, position you would say.

Speaker 5 (01:47:43):
No but given the fact that The bills had no timeouts,
left and you, LOOK i Know clayban is very anti
momentum in, sports AND i don't know what The claymates right,
now The claymates.

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
Are i'll taking a dirt nap. Tonight, SORRY i, know But.

Speaker 5 (01:47:58):
I'm not trying to rile them, up especially in his
time of. Pain i'm not trying to cause some sort
of rift. Here but momentum is very real and it
was very obvious in this. Game so how do you stop?
Momentum you take the life out of them by going
forward on fourth and three and end the game right,
there and they.

Speaker 1 (01:48:13):
Didn't, OKAY i don't any want to get into. Momentum
forget the, momentum because here's where the momentum and THEN
i agree in a, sense but here's where the momentum
and the numbers all. Agree that was one of the
hardest like go for it analytical decisions that you would
ever want to see it WOULD i, think you, know

(01:48:35):
the systems say that would have helped their chance of
winning like eight. Percent and it's very simple to. Understand
if you go for it, there you need to get
three yards with The ravens, offense which has been awesome all,
night and if you get those three, yards you win the.
Game if you don't get those three, yards you have
another chance to win the. Game you have three, timeouts

(01:48:57):
so you get either one chance to win the game
by getting the three yards or stopping, them or you
get two chances to win the game by either going
for it or trying to stop. Them and you can tell, me,
oh field position and all, that and they don't have. Timeouts,
well they were right back ahead of where they would

(01:49:17):
have kicked that field goal in about five or six
plays and less than a, minute with more than enough
time to set up what could have been a Long
Matt prader field. Goal but then they didn't need to
because they were more than in position to set up
a chip Shot Matt prader field. Goal so The, ravens
who are one of the most analytically driven teams out,

(01:49:38):
THERE i Think John harbaugh was just emotional in the.
Moment it's possible it was Because Lamar jackson got a
little shaken.

Speaker 2 (01:49:48):
UP i thought on that play he got hit pretty.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
Hard but The Buffalo bills took a time out in
that situation and gave them a chance to reset and
go for. It so the numbers will say it's a bad,
decision AND i think it's just logical because everyone, says,
well those number systems shook like they don't provide, context,
Right like they're not you, know looking at the.

Speaker 2 (01:50:09):
Game, okay well here's the. Game you have AN mvp
on your.

Speaker 1 (01:50:13):
Team In Lamar jackson and you're punting it away to
ANOTHER mvp who's thrown for like two hundred yards in
the fourth.

Speaker 2 (01:50:20):
Quarter SO i thought that decision was.

Speaker 1 (01:50:23):
Terrible and it doesn't take away the beauty of that
thirty two yard throw To Josh palmer From Josh allen's
that set up the game winning field, goal because that
was just a layered throw Pass Gire alexander THAT i
thought was just. Awesome And Josh allen made a lot
of really smart decisions. Tonight you made a lot of
accurate throws and that was the best. One followed it

(01:50:44):
up with a seam To Kean coleman that set up
the game. Winner so you don't want to take anything
away from. There BUT i don't think The ravens coaching
staff ultimately leaned into their. Strengths they leaned into what
was a weakness there on the.

Speaker 5 (01:50:55):
Defense, yeah the, numbers at least the Next gen stats
model said it was a toss up by. One so
at that point you go with your gut and you
go with being aggressive given the fact that things are
Going buffalo's, way let's end this right.

Speaker 6 (01:51:06):
Now and they, didn't and they'll learn from.

Speaker 3 (01:51:08):
That and you, know.

Speaker 5 (01:51:09):
Traditionally people would punt. There you go back ten twenty.
Years everybody's putting. There but he should have taken a.
Page you had one more opportunity to make, up As
Todd munkin's offensive coordinating decisions kind of put them in that.
Situation you had one more play to make up for
not going to your best player on, first, second and third.
Down well you did on third, down but it was
a short pass and you had fourth down to do.
It you should have taken a page out of your

(01:51:30):
old offensive, Coordinator Greg roman's. Playbook what did The chargers
do in a similar situation On friday?

Speaker 7 (01:51:35):
Night they threw the.

Speaker 5 (01:51:36):
Ball they put it in Justin herbert's. Hands why did
you do it With Lamar jackson's one thing they're going to?

Speaker 2 (01:51:40):
Regret it looks so easy all.

Speaker 1 (01:51:42):
Night when they called a run For Lamar, jackson he
ended up with six for seventy on the.

Speaker 2 (01:51:48):
Ground how efficient is?

Speaker 1 (01:51:49):
That every time they essentially called a run pass option
and he pulled it and kept the. Ball he ended
up with a big. Run it was incredible Efficient Derrick.
Henry LIKE i mentioned one's sixty nine on the. Ground you,
know early in the fourth quarter they had sixteen plays
over ten, yards eight over twenty and that was only

(01:52:11):
out about like forty something. Plays it was an incredibly
impressive performance by The ravens offense until it. Wasn't and
you mentioned the Next Gen stats model only giving it
like a small go. Situation you, know we have a
dorkoff because you know THE espn model run By Brian
burke had it at that strong like plus eight.

Speaker 2 (01:52:32):
Percent so you, know different models dorkoff see things.

Speaker 1 (01:52:37):
Differently i'm a dork so THAT i can say that
it's only week, one it really is only week.

Speaker 7 (01:52:45):
ONE i MEAN.

Speaker 2 (01:52:48):
I think that will. Sting we'll remember that game all.

Speaker 1 (01:52:51):
Season it doesn't change HOW i felt about these two
teams really going into the, game BUT i know it's
gonna make Our bills fan Producer Eric roberts feel. Differently
as he's driving home, TONIGHT i mean he had to
suffer Through, yamamoto you, know losing The. No hitter and
then four straight runs On saturday night with two outs

(01:53:13):
in the ninth and he gets it all back and
then some with The. Bills i'm not going to SAY
i would have left the, stadium BUT i did give
up on this game several points throughout the.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
Night you, Know, yeah that's that was gonna.

Speaker 5 (01:53:23):
Be my question is would you have left the stadium
Because i'm feeling this is that one point toss up right.

Speaker 25 (01:53:28):
Now i'm definitely not an early, lever even if a
team is getting. WAXED i, MEAN i my, glory My
bills fandom. MOMENTS i sat through The Nathan peterman five
interception game from kickoff tend the whole, game was there
in that soccer stadium watching that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:41):
Game but, YES i.

Speaker 25 (01:53:42):
WOULD i gave up several, times AND i, definitely you,
know deep down The bills fan inside of, me they
set up for that field goal And i'm, like he's
gonna miss.

Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
It i've seen. Them i've seen them miss it in
the sitation new. ERA i know they haven't gotten over the.

Speaker 1 (01:53:54):
Top and this was actually their first win coming back
from fifteen plus in the fourth quarter since nineteen sixty,
seven which is just. Outrageous but it is a new
era with These Buffalo. Bills and then the game was
never quite. Over even though there were multiple Times i'm With,
Shook i'm with, You, eric there was always a like

(01:54:16):
A it was always two scores with some time, left
and when they got that three and, out it started
a process of a game we're going to be talking
about really for the rest of the. Season what a,
day what a game to finish it, Up, SHOOK i got.

Speaker 6 (01:54:30):
One more note for.

Speaker 5 (01:54:31):
You according TO nfl, research teams with forty plus points
and two hundred and thirty five or more rushing yards
in a game where two hundred and seventy seven and
zero including the playoffs entering, today they're now two hundred
and seventy seven and.

Speaker 1 (01:54:42):
One that's why the models all had The ravens with
a ninety nine point one percent chance to win at various.
Points there was one at six, minutes one at two,
minutes and that's why they play the. Game what a
beautiful game it is that we get to. COVER i
am so excited to do seventeen more weeks of this Unreal.

Speaker 2 (01:55:05):
We won't be long, Gone.

Speaker 1 (01:55:07):
Shuck we will be back Talking Monday night football in
just twenty four. HOURS i SAID i wasn't gonna say it.
Again but when The bills make a historic come back
and send us all home and like, Ecstasy football's.

Speaker 23 (01:55:23):
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