December 26, 2025 • 45 mins
On the latest Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast, Cam’s teammate and fellow pass rusher Chase Young joins the show. The episode opens with Chase reflecting on Christmas week with his family before diving into his football roots and how storied DeMatha High School prepared him for Sundays. Chase shares what the Heisman Trophy experience was really like, his time in Columbus surrounded by future NFL stars, and the surreal nature of going through a virtual NFL Draft. He also opens up about playing during the Covid season, developing alongside a young defensive line in Washington, and the emotions behind being traded to the 49ers mid-career. Cam adds perspective from his own journey, discussing trade rumors, free agency realities, and how players mentally navigate constant uncertainty. The two defensive stars compare workout routines, talk about longevity in the NFL, and break down why defensive line chemistry can make or break a unit. Insightful, honest, and full of elite pass-rusher perspective, this episode is a must-listen for fans who want to understand what it really takes to survive — and thrive — in the NFL trenches.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Walk going in this off edge for me, your host
Cam Jordan. I'm excited. That's where did I get to
sit down with a teammate during season. I try not
to bug my off my boys, but you know what,
the man is balling. He came back to you know what,
took five games off this season and then in the
last ten he been on a tear seven sacks ten games.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
We got two games left.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Might be time to touch them double ditchits for the
first time in the career. You know, he was an
Ohio state pass Russian legend and your second overall pick
in the twenty twenty draft by Washington, and then you know,
went to San Francisco and now he went the Black
and Gold. You know it made the Pro Bowl his
rookie year, Defensive Rookie of the Year that same year,
and now he's in his second year with the New
(00:47):
Orleans Saints. Nicknamed the Predator. Were talking about Chase Young.
It's time for this week's Drive for Success Conversation presented
by Toyota. Let's go places the Predator.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
They can because the dreads, right, yes, because of the
dreads in the helmet in the health big ass helmet.
Man Man what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Your helmet got to be two times as the way
to morment.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
We checked that out before it is. It's uh. I
like it though, because you know when you use your
when you use your head. You know when you when
you use your head. Though, it's it helps the show
the extra like like I'm trying to be as light
and fast as I can. As you got that bucket,
(01:35):
we can't. I don't know how you be. I don't
know how you take his from that joy because we
delivered it here, so I ain't accepted nothing.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
How was christ How was Christmas? Though? It was good? Uh? Shoot,
and Son's first Christmas really his first Christmas, for you
have one that ship. He's born in August. He was
born in August, so this is really his first Christmas.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
But he like a little he's out there walking around
like yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Give me that. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Even though he wanted this ripping paper more than his toys.
It was it was good. My mom was here, she
cooked with fried chicken, mac and cheese cabbage. Hey, sir,
we got a game. We got a game. Now, we
got a gang. Get me ready, That's what I tell myself.
That that's what I tell about. Now I had to
(02:23):
go on yours was cool. I know you got family.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I mean, you know a lot of family left as
of money. You know that came in for this past
game when I was forty.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
People deep, you know deep, that's because she was about
to get one. Thirty.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Man, I look last year, I don't know. The older
I get, the more people show up.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
You know what I'm saying. I feel like that you
got too many more left. Yeah, came fun of you, brother,
you tho he got too many more thirty though, man,
big dog, big dog, you were saying.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
He was saying that all year. Like, boy, ain't nobody
in the world hundred thirty six. I ain't got that year,
you know, shout out to my dog.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
You don't hap me up type. I'm manifested, just.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Like hey, just like I'll be manifesting you getting out
the stack. And now you're getting out the stack, creating
havoc on these.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Boys getting off the stack with Camo. That's what That's
what the podcastould have been called, Getting out that And that's.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
All I'm believe it, you know me, I just want
to all right, I'm getting out the stack. Well, stack
is the churches. It's between the officer of line D
line and you know the play. You just gotta you
gotta get some extra work it. Yeah, let's let's take
it back to you know.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
High school.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
He went to Domantha High out in the d M
d M V.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
You know you you always talk about the pedigree we
turn on tape, guys going you like, you know he
went to Damantha.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
You know how many guys are currently in the league
right now? From the from the Mattha me on our team, Koziah,
we got uh because the huh co wonder Domantha? Who
else I got? Josh Wallace here, dB player on the Rams? Uh,
the Marco Halloms young guys safety, Yeah, play with the Falcons.
(04:02):
Who else the Mattha? Marshaun Lloyd running back for san
Lloyd running back for the Steelers. DJ Turner why receiving
for the Raiders. Yeah, you must got him. Yeah, I
got it. I said to you know, I do not
know how many?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah, you got eight currently, that's not bad.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
That's not bad osion for real? Eight currently and people
who came before me. Cameron Wake what did the matha?
Cam Wakes A the Mattha guy is the Mathea guy.
He got a hundred. He definitely got a hundred. You know,
he was like that at his time. He was like
that bro. He would he was who was that. The
Canadian Football League first came in a couple of years,
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still got a hundre, got an a right, Miami, le
give me some hope. Yeah, I'm saying it's all possible. Yeah,
it's possible. No, you put another ten piece here. I
don't know if I can do it to you, yes, sir,
Come on. The longer you get in, the better you
feel in my mind to treat that like the hot
(05:04):
field and more team they don't don't live yourself, I believe. Yeah,
I mean I probably could do it. It's gonna be
if I want to do it. Probably right. It's always
if you want to.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
You ain't you ain't ever had, you know, you come
from that l h You know what I'm saying, big
old age.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
We're not gonna see it was n I l before
n I l uh I got suspended. Everybody else got
spitted for for tattoo. We talked about tattoos, talk about
it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
And now and now kids out there making that good
cheddar kids out there like I'm not me.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
You want to suspend me, forget forgetting that. It wouldn't
even tattoo. But it was to get my at the time,
I had a girlfriend. It was a get to a
game and the tickets to the road tickets tickets to
the to the Rose Bowl game from Ohio. But that's
that's twelve hundred. You know what I'm saying. It was
a round trip. You know what I'm saying. They gave
(06:04):
us to they was giving us. We know we got
paid a little. We got two dollars every Friday.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Come on, man, like I don't know, Ohio, that might
buy half a whole aisle.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It will buy you. Rit was probably six hundred, but
that's when. Okay, so they started playing us more when
we got out. After we after we moved out the dorms,
it was probably like two thousand a month. Oh look,
you know what I'm saying. Like out there with y'all
out there with Cali.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Boy, we're talking about this.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I was making nine sixty change and my rent was
nine hundred. Boy, I ain't have a look or nothing.
Has your dad, you know what I'm saying? I had
my dad, had my dad? Hey, Steve run out wallet
by Hey, I need a little extras cheese man, man man.
(06:58):
You know what I'm saying, real jobs. Boy had to
be a bouncer and then a student student.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
That's crazy. People know that about you though. That's crazy.
You have to be a bouncer. Yeah, you need extra cash.
You gotta get a job. All works well in the summertime.
It's gonna be a bouncer at.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
The club at the horse tracks.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
You're dad, he said. He really tried to just let
you get out the mood type. I think.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
No, I think my freshman year I was wild and
like I was, I was slated this. I was slated
to start you know what I'm doing too much?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you'll say I had a little trouble once.
I had a little trouble. Post was like, hey, bro, this.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
You gotta figure this out. Don't don't do too much,
bring it bring it down all right. College thought you
go to d o h.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I done have some legendary Ohio teammates, you, Malcolm Jenkins,
when I first got into the league, Will Smith. You
know what I'm saying, good just good people, you know.
Pete Warner of course, you know like this. There's always
always I had James Lord Knights at one point.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, ain't you did?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, he showed up for like half a season. He
was he was broken.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Okay, he
had man, he was dang Yeah, Okay, see, okay, that
was that. Okay, you ain't nothing to go against the
Warner though, or in my tripping liner.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Uh no, no, you're talking about the USC quarterback.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah. He older than you. He hell older than me. Okay.
I was just I was trying to think I don't
be known, but I don't be knowing. But I just
you know what, once get in the league, I do
have to be I just throw a name out there
and see if that was if that was the time
March Chai is tight.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Okay, definitely was there for you know, in the same
area of the buck fumble. But uh you know, over
at Ohio State, you finished second in uh in Poland
behind Joe Burrow for the Heisman Heisman Trophy, which, honestly,
you know, I feel like if there's a defensive player
deserve it. Your college highlights.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Was o D. Yeah. I thought sixteen and a half,
I thought I was going. I thought I was going
this will happen. I got the suspension. Hurt me a
little bit. And it's so funny that that that in
terms of that suspension, that ball got the rolling right
(09:22):
after that game. You know, I've seen nobody knows that.
I don't care no more in the league. But compliance
they hit me on Sunday like here, it takes what
needs to be coming here on one day, like my
person my personnel, dude, he called me, say everything good person.
He was. He was hyped too, because I just had
(09:43):
came off a game Wisconsin four sacks two tier two
four s fumbers, Like I'm we were right in that.
You know what I'm saying, We're in it. You know
what I'm saying, Like, you know what I'm saying. It's
hot right now. You know so, man, right after the
best game of my career, I going there. First thing
they asked me was to open my bank account on nine.
(10:05):
I'm open about open my bank account. And then it
got and then it got to a point that was like, okay,
well you might not be able to play. I'm like,
oh yeah, it's about to get serious a little bit.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, wake you up. Oh you was you wasn't kidding.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I had to go right then and there. I thought
I could handle this. Like a week after I heard that,
that's when I had to call my mom. Help. We
got we got this situation. I told her. I told her,
I said, Mam, I think I think I I used
a different word, but I said, I think I messed up.
(10:43):
I messed up. I think I messed up this time.
I might need to come on down this this real
life right at all? You know, and they my parents,
But yeah, bro that it was crazy. Bro, it was crazy.
I said, your mom, your mom a writer Charles Wilson
when I was on stage, looked at me, shook my hand.
It was like a yeah, but you know you're the
(11:04):
one this thing. If you didn't get suspended right, Oh
you know what I'm saying. But I said, I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
You finished second in votes, you finished second in most
first place vote. It was it was going crazy overall.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I guess I don't even know how that works. Yeah,
I don't. Yeah, I don't. You know Joe Burrow though,
you know, he was that guy to that year they
had he came out there with the jersey with the
with occasion spelling the Burrow. I said it took me
a couple of days to realize why that video was
so legendary. Give me I didn't you know what I'm
(11:38):
saying Now I get it. E A U X. Yeah,
that's hard, though, I can't they say that's hard. He
did that. Joe did what he did, He did it.
He did that, no doubt. Absolutely. I mean he shout
out just he really an old state guy. So he
just you know, ya know, how to use it broke,
So he had to go somewhere. R I p Dwayne
(12:00):
Haskins at the time, Dwayne through fifty something touchdowns, Joe
fifty one, Dwayne through fifty So, man, it was you
not we had some talent, right, So I mean you
play you played with with what you played with Joey No.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Nick Bosi Nick. It was Nick on one side, you
on the other.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
And then on the last at the three games because
Nick got hurt. Yeah, and Cooper was Coop was with
me too, Jonathan Cooper cool. He liked though he's lighter
than us, for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Them them them the Denver Edges nmboy was two for
they both like they both like okay, you know, like
I said, always, you.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Get your degree. I ain't get my degree. I'm gonna
get my degree one day. Don't even answer that. I
answered for you. I tell people go ahead. Yeah, I'm
like said, I'm not gonna let you fish that. Yeah,
I said, yo. Uh my wife got a degree. She
got it from both of us. You're good that y'all.
Y'all unit, you know what I'm saying. You know what
(13:07):
I'm saying, Look at a degree in the house. So
then you go to the draft. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
where was the draft for you? It wasn't New York.
Oh you stayed at the crib. I was a COVID.
Uh yeah, bro, that'sh It was wild because they you
(13:28):
can even have a certain amount of people in the house, right.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
So I tried to get my immediate family and my grandma.
You know, I had my train there, and it was
I mean, it was at the crib. It was like
sixty people outside my house. It was raining. Oh right,
when I got drafted, all my family friends came outside
the house because they couldn't come in. I only had
(13:54):
to wait ten minutes anyway, It's not like they had
a long wait there. Yeah. I was, man, I ain't
gonna fay out blessed not to be able to have
to sit through you know what I'm saying, It was
a blessing for sure. I already knew I was going
for real. Yeah, even at the combine, but I had
like five interviews. When they had five interviews, you you
(14:15):
was interviewing them. They was an interviewing you. And you
know how like in the in the drafts and they're
talking about like when you're going there, this, that, and
the third they're gonna pull up all your bathroom mm hm,
put all my good film.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Man, love to love to hear it.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, no, I mean you know what I'm saying, like
like y'all pulled that up? Are you ready to defend yourself?
They're like, no, you did this good? This good? What
was you thinking? What was you thinking here? That win? Win? Nah?
For real thought win? Man? You feel cheated out the
draft joke like I didn't get Yeah, you could have
(14:52):
been in Nashville or New York or Vegas. It was
supposed to be in Vegas and it was it was
supposed to be. We go out and get our jerseys.
We go out on the boat to the to the floor,
like we go out on the boat, right and of course,
you know the best year. You know, I mean the
year you know that I go, it's of course it
is COVID.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
No, you can't already you know you're already great. You
can't just give that le legendary experience. BOYD, don't send
me no boatut a cap.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
On already got the heisman gone, Man, that is crazy,
that's crazy. It was crazy. It was a you know,
playing COVID year out there having fun. You know, y'all
have to you know, you play there having to have
your guys own juice, you know, like you know what
I'm saying, because it's no fans, no fans, It ain't
(15:46):
none of that. You know what I'm saying. I'm not
gonna lie to you.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I love COVID year football.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I did too. It was like it was calm out there. Quiet.
It's like a scrimmage. You can hear everything. Coach, you
sit in all checks. You ain't see that up man,
nah for real? Yeah, because you can hear him. Nah
that It did help. I would say it definitely. It
definitely helpen aspect. You see all that. Like, man, it
(16:14):
was quick.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
You go ahead, come on, ain't no family, ain't no friends,
ain't nobody like they's telling you about your media.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Hey, hey, I take that on the road while I'm
in a home, like, oh, we need to do interviews.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Great man, man. So twy dropped the leak year. People
wonder why, Like my first year coming in, I wasn't
used to going to OTA's right, because my first year
it was like a free summer. Right. So I'm thinking
in my head, I'm about to run this back, and
then I'm like, dang, there, weren't me there Now all
(16:46):
of sudden, it's important to be there. You know what
I'm saying. Now, it was just new for it. It
just wouldn't I didn't do it yet, you know what
I'm saying. I seen what it was like without it, absolutely,
you know, it was just definitely it's definitely doable.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
It's you get you get your Like the importance of
of O t as. I've never understood it because my
rookie year I didn't have it either. I had the
lock out year. I showed up training camp.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, me too, And we showed up at training camp,
watch meetings in the morning at home, went into practice
and went and came home and got on you.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
That was.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
That's yeah, it was so sweet. It was no doubt
your rookie year, yo. You know you had.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Players are not ogs, you know, like y'all had a
young D line. What the big Pain was there already
or Jay big John Allen.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I was a little older, okay that yeah, yeah, linebacker
a corner of the year. So we had kendew Fuller,
we had dB, we had some dvs. That was all
the kendel full of Ronald Dark.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I'm thinking like the D line though, like y'all was
all year.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
One, two, three, three or four more like thank John.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
First rounder, all first rounders, all top tens.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
My first year, top five defense. That makes sense what
I'm saying. They say you're going to be lying. Go
and if all y'all got first top ten pedigrees, it
makes a lot of sense because John and Pain in there,
bro mm hmmm. It's different now, John, you gotta think
in terms of pocket puts. John hitting the hump move
(18:31):
every time, power hum straight, pushing him back right edge
on that edge. I don't need no inside moves. John
need collapse the whole joint, right you know.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Hey, that's that's crazy thing though, And then you you
just mess around. There ain't no stepup because Big Pain.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Was right there too. Pa ain't had a lapin.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Man for your first season, finished for seven and halven
mm hmmm hm hm.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Trying to go get, I mean one go and get
you know what I'm saying. But you know we're going
for man, you know, going for.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Absolutely coming out the gate. What wasn't half in the
first game?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Nah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fumble too. M hm
m hmm yeah, man, it was. Uh that's crazy, That's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Hell of a rookie year. I ain't never been traded.
Hopefully I'll never get traded. But let's talk about this
trade situation to a team. You go back to the crib,
you from the d n V you played for Washington.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, it's funny. Does it feels like betrayal when they
trade you? Yes? Okay at first, you know what I'm saying, Right, everybody,
I feel like everybody who gets traded might feel a
little bit because.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
You always you always want to make home, Like damn,
it's medium, you.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Know what I'm saying, Like, you know, and then I mean,
so my agents started to kind of put it in
my ear, not put it in my ear, but like
you know you got hurt. You know what I'm saying,
because of injury, you haven't played this. That and the
third just breaking it down to me the real life,
like why certain things happened in the league but they
(20:17):
didn't tell me, and it they waited till the end, bro,
Like I'm talking about I think it's like at four o'clock,
well three o'clock if it was at four o'clock, but
they waited till like three forty five to trade me.
I'm on a massage bed, bro, tis just get traded,
(20:38):
So I'm like that. That That one was like, okay,
that's they were saying, tis for real. They weren't even
saying me yet. As it got closer, they was like,
Chase could be too. But you know where it's smoke,
that is fire, right If you start popping up, that
mean somebody didn't put it out on the media. Got
to be off for somewhere out there, I understand, right.
(20:59):
So I'm on the beside and I'm like, okay, I
guess some good man. That's besides I wake up. My
phone is on fire. Forty nine forty nine ers, Welcome
to the forty nine er four, your niner. I'm like
m hmm. It's funny after that, never went back into
the facility to grab my stuff. They just send it.
They send it. I don't want to talk to y'all. Yeah,
(21:21):
you know, but you know it's no no how it finished.
It's a business. Oh you know, got two shocked on
him last year. J Daniels, come here.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
You know what I want sight every time I see you.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Every time this point on. Stay tuned, we'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I'm on the same wave. They have betrayed me. I
like to burn bridges. I like the burn bridge. You
didn't want me.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Oh, I eat you with everything that I am. Man. Man,
they they you, they can never do that. That's crazy.
There was always rumors when I was younger, bro it
just never never came about. You know what I'm saying.
I went up there one time. I said, you're gonna
send me to Buffalo. He's, okay, what's talking about? I said, Buffalo?
I say it's too damn cold for me to be
(22:14):
in Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I said, I'll retire right now. I swear, I swear
he's a kill. Nobody even sayd anything. Let's sit down,
let's talk about this. He said, Hey, what if it
was a good situation for you. How are you gonna
get trade out of me? I retire, I said, you've
already messed up and paid me.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I have.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I never have to work again. You sent me, You
sent me to somewhere.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I don't want to be Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
You know, it takes it takes a special East Coaster
to live in Buffalo, because I'm not that.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
I'm from the West Coast. I'm from Arizona.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's different, bro. I don't even
that's different for you. That's different for you. That's a
real different for you. Bro. Giving I'm getting spoiled right now, right,
I understand I'm getting spoiled. Christmas is seventy five degrees outside.
But it's like I kind of missed the cold. I
kind of miss it a little bit. Explain what do
(23:05):
you mean by that?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
It's like you're going out there because you know, when
you're playing the cold, it hurts the chest, but you
are wait though, it's like playing in the cold to
you know what I'm saying, Like you you know what
I'm saying, Like you ain't sweating for it, you ain't
getting tired out there like you just the hit depends
on how cold that the hits be hurting a little
bit more. But high key officer linem and they don't
(23:27):
really want to kick for real because it's cold. They
need you know all that.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
You know, no, I don't do that, but I'm trying
to see I'm trying to see my best eleven versus
your best eleven.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
The cold does not provide that.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I think sub thirty degrees that does not provide the
right environment for the best hits.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
A good thirty eight though, thirty eight to forty. You
want to be that mess? Just to me?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Hell no, all right, all right, be on the trade.
Tell me what what a free agency was like? You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Right after it was nerveous, nerve racking for real, brain
gonna fake. It was like, you know, you actually agent,
like anybody call today, anybody this? That? And the third
what's going on with the notes? It's like you want
to know something very second you kind of it's like,
you know, that's what we do. This is our livelihood.
And you just came off surgery, so for yours for sure,
nah so so so with that, So I'm gonna tell
(24:26):
you so what that was right. Basically, I took a
visit to the Panthers, got my little whatever physical I
didn't pass it, and it was because my neck, and
I'm like, I'm like kept coming on. I'm like, that's
my age. I'm like, look, We're gonna have to take
(24:47):
care of this because I'm tired of like I'm tired
of dealing with it. So We're gonna have to go
somewhere about to take care of it. Boom, Like two
days later, we're like, okay, cool, this, that and the third.
But we had to be real strategic because you don't
really want Yeah, you don't need the world at right.
Everybody know now, right, But at the time you didn't
want that, And so New Orleans popped up. It was like,
(25:16):
all right, we're cool, we'll let him go through the
surgery we want to, because I guess they had a
player to do the same surgery yeah before and uh quick,
little fusion fuse it up. I think I'm not mistaken
that Devin bro had it done in l s U
(25:36):
and then went to go have a great career in
the CFL and came to New Orleans. Yeah yeah, yeah,
so you got it done. And it was like the
Neil Hunter. Yeah he got it.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I had it, big muscle band skill.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I mean it really don't because even how far you
can move your neck right now, it's not how far
you can really move it anyway. You know what I'm saying,
Like in terms of like our next you know what
I'm saying, like we like even you moved Joe joints
to the right, were really supposed to move with probably
a little more degrees, but not gonna be typed regardless
of it's really not you know what I'm saying. You
(26:13):
got you got the big ass traps. Yeah, you ain't
need to move up anyway. You always in the gym anyway, boy,
you lived six times a week. Man, I'm glad. Hey,
Cam Jordan said that, y'all not me.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
If there's anybody in the weight room, it's you, I sir,
I just want to You're gonna see me running on
this elliptical doing doing some drills.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
So you said not not lifting as much, put some
years on your career.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Absolutely what I have not put a bar on my back,
and you.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Don't need no bar in your bathroom. Yeah, I mean,
you know I.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Get I get on the pitch shark, I do like
the little I love that we got the little air
mneumonic pressure, you know, the little whatever them joints is
called the little squad rack.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Show you that.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
You know the kaisers yay, I like you know it.
It's body weight or just like let's let's test motion.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
I love that, you know, saying let me get explosive
on them jump but this whole hey, let me put
three four hundred pounds in your back.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
For what it's real, I feel like it's more mental, bro.
I feel like that's all mental for real. Like college workouts,
it's all mental. Man.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
College workouts, we have what we call g g T,
God Given Talent, Maji Tyson, a little loutle Derek Hill.
They be like, man, I ain't got it today GGT.
But on the test day they get under five hundred pounds,
be wrapping it out.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I said, y'all, y'all like that, like yeah, I don't
know how people do that. I don't know. I don't
know how people do that. I ain't gonna fake man
be out there. College.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
College is different though, Like you could coach tell you, oh,
we got twenty hundreds to day, and.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
You like there ain't just a lot. And then go
do see y'all after practice. I think y'all had it
worse than us to show in terms of twenty because
what was a'll like conditioned, Like, what was twenty hundred?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, I think twenty hundreds was was one year we
were in the stadium, one year we were in the
whole cow stadium.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
One year. That was twenty hundreds. Sound crazy to me, bro,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
That was that was back when you know, coaches was
really trying to like test every power.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Everybody's back was lit up, had to be bro, everybody
back had to be lit up. Bro.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Man, you know I'm built to run, Bro, Like, yeah,
I'm out there. I'm out there galloping, right, I think
I missed one on like just messing around.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
We the most. That so what we would do, but
like our conditioning test, like so we would go to
the stadium with warm up and then we'll do like
position drills first coach though, but with you know, you
know we're called the coach J's playground. Though she got
some drills for you. They be long. We call it
(28:57):
the obstacle courts. We called it off course because it
was all the all the drid so long. So he
had like basically they get us going first to tire
us out. Then we just had two three hundred yard
shuttles at three yard shuttle used to get it out here.
Twenty five fifty yard turn. I think it was sixty
(29:18):
sixty yard turn. No, we went up, back up, back up.
I don't know that's what that'd be about. Sixty yeah, yeah,
that's all. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
We had a six we had a sixth turn. I brote,
but the train for the sixth turn we used to
do when I got to leave. We used to do
three three hundred yard shuttles, and he.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Used to be a fifty yard turns, but if he
was like a smaller guy, would be twenty five turns.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I'm twenty five turns like that week because it's really
did the stop and go. It's just not being gold
to get you. Every time. He'd be out there burning
like lady, burning like Lord Jesus. If you can go
coast up, that's why. Okay, okay, I see twenty hundreds.
You take off you coasting straight.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
You're coasting you really you really pushed for twenty.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yes, getting out on you coast, don't reach listen the
handies you know what I'm saying, I don't reach because
Mickey tellers do not reach, waiting on the hand to
get pulled. Hey, we ain't get none of that. It
was go.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
But we had, in fact, we're The craziest conditioning test
we had was at the Saints. I just seen I
just seen a kid stop playing football, never to play
football again. Wide receiver faise on something or other off.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
A conditioning test.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah, it was a receiver from Florida or something like that,
jacked up probably four percent body fat bills to be
an at. I'm saying though, we did ten uh ten
power cleans, fifteen Burpy's twenty ball squads, and then you
had like a forty yard ladder and you did that
like three or four times for time.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Four times. I was real, that's it was. It was continuous. Yeah,
you're continuous. My man gave out. No, that's the kidney feeling. Huh.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Boy had k like Kenny feel like body was like
I can't.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Do this no more liketed. No, he never saw him
play football again. Y'all was u y'all was what the
little people who CrossFit, yes' cross. So he brought some he.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Brought crossfitters in and they couldn't even beat our times.
You're like, yeah, these guys gon show you how to
do it.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I mean they're not freaking they're not freakingly athletic. That's
not right. You know, that's why they crossfitt.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
It was crazy, all right. But let's just say you
come to the Saints. We already kicked all that now
and you know new CBA says we can we can
only run so many yards that saves you. Ain't no
jingle jangles, ain't no like running down gasps with the whistles,
slasher just slamming down.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
You know, we're the blessed period of time.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Like right now you went to the league ten years
is viable, you know, like fifty years doable?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Doable? Right It's it's it's you can It's real, doable,
no doubt, because was it back then? Was even before
you was stretch. It was a stretch. I mean that's
like average was like two point eight years when I
first got to the league.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
And now that John's like for change.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I mean, you you you doing it though you're making
U make You've made legendary. You know what I'm saying.
Fifteen you made it even even when I got into
the league, like I didn't know obviously I knew who
he was, but I just yeah, the podcast and everything helped,
you know, bring out people's personal I was being my
team man now too. But I used to know you.
(32:35):
But I'm like, okay, I didn't know. I didn't know
about this joint. You know what I'm saying. I didn't
know about that, you know, but yeah, we.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Were out here working.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
You know, the work don't continue now. You did it
because you did it. You did it. You was You
was one of the real consistent ones. You you stayed consistent.
You know, it was never like a.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Ain't no real drop off.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah, a real job. You know what I'm saying. Even
eight and a half right now, we're working.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
You know, they tried to look this guls I got
that chip mushoulder.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
They tried to bury me last year.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Your coach, hey one to that day. One person, Yo,
pussed me off.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
One person.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
You got to you got to the safe. So you like,
bro this He's like if you run games every every
time you hit.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Third every for real?
Speaker 4 (33:30):
No can you as you see everything I said last
year is what we're doing right now.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I'm just saying what I'm doing to win straight straight,
I'm better than this guy in front of me. I
like that. For me, that is just running this tape
all day. Just get that. Give you give me enough
for the ones, and our corners do what they're supposed
to do. I'm going to win. We're going We got
eight and a half. You want Look, if you had
(33:55):
this year, you'd have been at one third if you
played wide now your whole grip.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
But if I didn't have talk have them as a
D line coach, I'd have been thirty two years ago.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
But who that trash guy? Oh you're like not, I say,
for for us, bro, I have a locker room. Our
locker room fire.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I think I said, yeah, no, go ahead, even like
even even though we started off rough as hell, I
was telling me.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I was like, no, our locker room be rocking together.
Like I know we ain't winning, but it's not like
we getting blown out. We had, you know, six games
that we really could have won.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
For real. I said it the other day and I
was like, man, I really messed with y'all. You know
what I'm saying, Like you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
that was the kool aid olve, Like, guys, we have
(34:51):
a great locker room. You know your boys, sh he
is coming with him, you know, next year, I think
I think we're gonna see some good things, great things,
great things, A lot of a lot of promise in
the in that locker room.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
It is, I mean it is to to you know,
was going until six took over and then you talked
about even our tight ess. Juwan Johnson came alive and
he's you know, great teammate as well.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Shot in the yards see me, yeah, even getting the ball,
he was getting the rock, show right, him getting the rock,
even getting that rock.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
You know, yeah, you know me, I always I would
be like yo, D line got to be close, and
even though we split rooms for the first time ever,
like we still go defensive line dinners like the D line,
D line Didner's we clutch.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah, first time.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I remember, we ain't have no finite system and I
still don't.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I still I don't. I don't know how. I still
don't know how. I'm just gonna use this. I ain't
even going to it, but Barts, that's crazy, bro, Like
I'm with it.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Whatever the D line want, you know, I mean, you know,
all season we're going to Canada. We didn't going to
Mexico one year, we didn't go. You know what I'm saying,
I guess you have the o gs. You have real
G that's.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Mane, you have the Lake show you the way Bro.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
I played with Kevin Williams, ken Williams from the Minnesota, Minnesota,
you know the Williams Wall, my super o G.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yeah, he came here and think about second year and
I was.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Like, dang, this is like legend legendary. Yeah, that's like
man with Adrian Peterson. I had a Washington, I had
a p at the Saints. He's the only dude. He
the only dude I know who can have a living
in practice right and people to head back. Man, still
(36:48):
he's still the same.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
They take off that said, that's that ships so crazy,
you know what.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I was saying.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Now, let's talk about who's the hardest running back you
ever had to take down?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Learning from that.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Or Buffalo?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah he was heavy. What man's limb? I hit him, No, diddy,
look I gotta because I don't got time. Yah. I
hit him, man. I thought I had to check my bro.
I felt like my chest broke, bro because you know,
(37:27):
you know when he running through the whole and you
got big grunk right here. You know, back in my here,
I was two fifty five, Bro, and I wouldn't. I
wouldn't in the weight room, like right now, you know
what I'm saying. Like, so I'm already like, I'm like,
all right, get off. I put the arm out, Bro.
He hit my chest. Bro, I thought it was cold.
I'm like, whoa, you know, I can't even feel nothing.
(37:51):
I'm like whoa. And I said from there point on,
I mean I still, you know, still tackling the rest
of the game. But I was like, right, learn that.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I mean, hey, for me, Bro, you remember Eddie Lacy
big being big fidy Eddy zebra k guy.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Bro was going for one thousand yards the hard way.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Come here? Can you last long as a running back
in the NFL? Doing that every year? I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
No, you gotta have Somethingessa's speech last last seventy ten.
You can't be a come here, I see cam scatterb
come here, hear down for my head. It's not gonna
like you know that that'll work for four five.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Maybe three, because it's gonna be somebody who you're gonna meet.
Your making no doubt after that.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Officially gonna find a double D in the hole, I say, hey,
bone bile man, Eventually he gonna find.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
He's gonna meet his maga with that boy.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Hey, I seen Leonard Fournete come through that whole A
D line might have colored for the side. Double ed
caught him dead on fet I saw him do a
helicopter in the air.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
I said, mmmm. Oh. Now, I had a teammate at
Washington at the time. He played with the charges man
named Ja Patterson. Grew up together. M man, we played, y'all.
I was we played on my second year, thinking that's
when James for starting. He said, double D with the
hardest dude that ever hit him? No, did he again?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Hey, I didn't know nothing about that man until he
got to the Saints. I said, Oh, this guy double
the Jets. I've seen this film.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
It's okay. He made y'all wrong with y'all though he
made this wrong with job right, he made job.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Hey, this sixty three linebacker coming down here schmacking cats
and said, who is this man? Boom sixteen hundred tackles.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
In his career so far? What's the record?
Speaker 3 (39:50):
I don't know, but this sixteen hundred. He getting in
the rare territory. They threw that one out last week.
Was like one of the few linebackers that sixteen hundred tackles.
I said, I believe it. Sixteen hundred is a.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Lot double d man he about it though, man, he
one dude, I can say about it, about it true.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Last question, because I've clearly skipped over, I thought about this.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I was like, damn, what haven't you done?
Speaker 2 (40:13):
You You hit a super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
You guys lost to the uh I mean to the
Chiefs and overtime that year. Yes, but but you went
You've been to the highest stage and you had a sack.
Bull was gonna stupid at the right time.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Like that joint got me. That joint got me on
for thirteen. But hey with the Hey, I knew I
had to go that day.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Right Lord, What was it like playing the super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (40:43):
It was it was a different it was a I mean,
you've been in the playoffs. It's uh right, it's that
you know, you can like cut through the air like
it's you feel it. It's just a different or bro
because you know, when you're playing for something that's bigger
than you, you know, and you in that and you
in that moment. It's just a certain energy that everybody
(41:03):
has in the whole locker room that just makes it different,
you know what I'm saying. Then it's like, you know,
you go to looking at it, watching it when you
was a kid, and then it's like you're seeing all
the stars that's there, and you know it was it was,
it was, it was crazy, bro. You know, I'm looking
at on the type of celebrities there on the sideline, like,
and then it's like you're like, dang, we're here. This
(41:25):
is this is the whole world is literally watching this
is no for real, no for real. So it's like
I made some shakes you why you know, I was
already upset. I had ninety two mm hmm. But I
made the best of it.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Man.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
That man, these are facts. I mean it's like that's
like a one tech bro. That's like, that's come on,
that's deep, that's DJ bro. I mean yeah, lower, I mean,
ninety would have been a cool flat ninety was it's cool?
Ninety one cool? Really is really any ninety I'm good
with anything. Number No. Seventy, seventy, the seventies numbers. I
(42:07):
was seventy. I was seventy sixties. Sixty is crazy. That's
guards you a straight guard to center. I mean real good,
real good centers got sixty two. If you got if
you were a center, you got sixty two. Yeah, sixty
two or sixty you are, But you defensive being with
a sixty number. Only See this is still training camp.
That's what that is. If you see a d N
(42:29):
in sixty, it's still training camp.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
DH Jared Allen, But the only one I know that
had sixty nine, I said, he he's.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
A wild boy. Hey, Jared, I salute you, big dog.
I salute you absolutely that salutes you.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
All right.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Anyway, let me let me get you out of there. Man.
I appreciate you for your time. I told you thirty
minutes here. We are rapping.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
You know we bought oh yeah, but uh, you know
I'm going to the game and Sons playing. Son's played
the Pelicans tonight. You know, tam one a team one B.
I gotta go see my boys play dev splash Booker.
They have the flamethrower versus you know, Derrick Queen. You
know Jeremiah Fears big z.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Big z Zion be going crazy, going crazy crazy. He
really big football explosive football playoff there.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Murphy's going wow.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Yeah, yeah, Tray, but Bunny's going crazy. He'd be forty
years vert.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Definitely, definitely Bunny's going crazy. Sure stop. Anyway, thank you
for doing the podcast. You know what I'm saying. I
appreciate our listeners. Out my dog for my dog out here.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Just signed a you know, a three year stension with
the Saints. He's gonna be the future, the face you
know from this point on. Yeah, you know, the next
wave can't do what you did.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Of course you can.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
You could go through him bore better in the next
next six.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
He you know, I'm gonna listen to tank Man. He
told me. Hey, he said, yeah, you got a long
way to go to my dad. I said, you're right now,
that's my son.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
I love him. Hey, bro, thank Jordan talks like he
he grown me, and I like trying to tell him myself, Hey, bro,
you not me.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
You can't just talk like he said. He's well, Grandpa
played in the league.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
You played the league.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Where do you think I'm going?
Speaker 2 (44:22):
That's all?
Speaker 4 (44:23):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (44:24):
I said? I mean take workouts. Are you willing to
do the work? You can do it. You gotta earn it.
You got you got it. I'm gonna give you the intangibles.
He gonna earn it. I mean he's gonna have that,
he gonna have that dog in them yet physical specimen already.
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Let's go be up here.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
We loaded, we locked up, we got a couple of
games left, and we gotta go get it. You know,
we can probably touch double jedits the next two games.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Why not? Why not? Or not? Why not us? That's
what that's being all. Be a lot of team great anyway,
Walk going in this off edge for me, your host
Cam Jordan. I'm excited. That's where did I get to
sit down with a teammate during season. I try not
to bug my off my boys, but you know what,
the man is balling. He came back to you know what,
took five games off this season and then in the
last ten he been on a tear seven sacks ten games.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
We got two games left.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Might be time to touch them double ditchits for the
first time in the career. You know, he was an
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(00:47):
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Speaker 2 (00:59):
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Your helmet got to be two times as the way
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Speaker 2 (01:15):
We checked that out before it is. It's uh. I
like it though, because you know when you use your
when you use your head. You know when you when
you use your head. Though, it's it helps the show
the extra like like I'm trying to be as light
and fast as I can. As you got that bucket,
(01:35):
we can't. I don't know how you be. I don't
know how you take his from that joy because we
delivered it here, so I ain't accepted nothing.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
How was christ How was Christmas? Though? It was good? Uh? Shoot,
and Son's first Christmas really his first Christmas, for you
have one that ship. He's born in August. He was
born in August, so this is really his first Christmas.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
But he like a little he's out there walking around
like yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Give me that. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Even though he wanted this ripping paper more than his toys.
It was it was good. My mom was here, she
cooked with fried chicken, mac and cheese cabbage. Hey, sir,
we got a game. We got a game. Now, we
got a gang. Get me ready, That's what I tell myself.
That that's what I tell about. Now I had to
(02:23):
go on yours was cool. I know you got family.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I mean, you know a lot of family left as
of money. You know that came in for this past
game when I was forty.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
People deep, you know deep, that's because she was about
to get one. Thirty.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Man, I look last year, I don't know. The older
I get, the more people show up.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
You know what I'm saying. I feel like that you
got too many more left. Yeah, came fun of you, brother,
you tho he got too many more thirty though, man,
big dog, big dog, you were saying.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
He was saying that all year. Like, boy, ain't nobody
in the world hundred thirty six. I ain't got that year,
you know, shout out to my dog.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
You don't hap me up type. I'm manifested, just.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Like hey, just like I'll be manifesting you getting out
the stack. And now you're getting out the stack, creating
havoc on these.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Boys getting off the stack with Camo. That's what That's
what the podcastould have been called, Getting out that And that's.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
All I'm believe it, you know me, I just want
to all right, I'm getting out the stack. Well, stack
is the churches. It's between the officer of line D
line and you know the play. You just gotta you
gotta get some extra work it. Yeah, let's let's take
it back to you know.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
High school.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
He went to Domantha High out in the d M
d M V.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
You know you you always talk about the pedigree we
turn on tape, guys going you like, you know he
went to Damantha.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
You know how many guys are currently in the league
right now? From the from the Mattha me on our team, Koziah,
we got uh because the huh co wonder Domantha? Who
else I got? Josh Wallace here, dB player on the Rams? Uh,
the Marco Halloms young guys safety, Yeah, play with the Falcons.
(04:02):
Who else the Mattha? Marshaun Lloyd running back for san
Lloyd running back for the Steelers. DJ Turner why receiving
for the Raiders. Yeah, you must got him. Yeah, I
got it. I said to you know, I do not
know how many?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah, you got eight currently, that's not bad.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
That's not bad osion for real? Eight currently and people
who came before me. Cameron Wake what did the matha?
Cam Wakes A the Mattha guy is the Mathea guy.
He got a hundred. He definitely got a hundred. You know,
he was like that at his time. He was like
that bro. He would he was who was that. The
Canadian Football League first came in a couple of years,
(04:42):
still got a hundre, got an a right, Miami, le
give me some hope. Yeah, I'm saying it's all possible. Yeah,
it's possible. No, you put another ten piece here. I
don't know if I can do it to you, yes, sir,
Come on. The longer you get in, the better you
feel in my mind to treat that like the hot
(05:04):
field and more team they don't don't live yourself, I believe. Yeah,
I mean I probably could do it. It's gonna be
if I want to do it. Probably right. It's always
if you want to.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
You ain't you ain't ever had, you know, you come
from that l h You know what I'm saying, big
old age.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
We're not gonna see it was n I l before
n I l uh I got suspended. Everybody else got
spitted for for tattoo. We talked about tattoos, talk about
it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
And now and now kids out there making that good
cheddar kids out there like I'm not me.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
You want to suspend me, forget forgetting that. It wouldn't
even tattoo. But it was to get my at the time,
I had a girlfriend. It was a get to a
game and the tickets to the road tickets tickets to
the to the Rose Bowl game from Ohio. But that's
that's twelve hundred. You know what I'm saying. It was
a round trip. You know what I'm saying. They gave
(06:04):
us to they was giving us. We know we got
paid a little. We got two dollars every Friday.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Come on, man, like I don't know, Ohio, that might
buy half a whole aisle.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It will buy you. Rit was probably six hundred, but
that's when. Okay, so they started playing us more when
we got out. After we after we moved out the dorms,
it was probably like two thousand a month. Oh look,
you know what I'm saying. Like out there with y'all
out there with Cali.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Boy, we're talking about this.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I was making nine sixty change and my rent was
nine hundred. Boy, I ain't have a look or nothing.
Has your dad, you know what I'm saying? I had
my dad, had my dad? Hey, Steve run out wallet
by Hey, I need a little extras cheese man, man man.
(06:58):
You know what I'm saying, real jobs. Boy had to
be a bouncer and then a student student.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
That's crazy. People know that about you though. That's crazy.
You have to be a bouncer. Yeah, you need extra cash.
You gotta get a job. All works well in the summertime.
It's gonna be a bouncer at.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
The club at the horse tracks.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
You're dad, he said. He really tried to just let
you get out the mood type. I think.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
No, I think my freshman year I was wild and
like I was, I was slated this. I was slated
to start you know what I'm doing too much?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you'll say I had a little trouble once.
I had a little trouble. Post was like, hey, bro, this.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
You gotta figure this out. Don't don't do too much,
bring it bring it down all right. College thought you
go to d o h.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I done have some legendary Ohio teammates, you, Malcolm Jenkins,
when I first got into the league, Will Smith. You
know what I'm saying, good just good people, you know.
Pete Warner of course, you know like this. There's always
always I had James Lord Knights at one point.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, ain't you did?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, he showed up for like half a season. He
was he was broken.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Okay, he
had man, he was dang Yeah, Okay, see, okay, that
was that. Okay, you ain't nothing to go against the
Warner though, or in my tripping liner.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Uh no, no, you're talking about the USC quarterback.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah. He older than you. He hell older than me. Okay.
I was just I was trying to think I don't
be known, but I don't be knowing. But I just
you know what, once get in the league, I do
have to be I just throw a name out there
and see if that was if that was the time
March Chai is tight.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Okay, definitely was there for you know, in the same
area of the buck fumble. But uh you know, over
at Ohio State, you finished second in uh in Poland
behind Joe Burrow for the Heisman Heisman Trophy, which, honestly,
you know, I feel like if there's a defensive player
deserve it. Your college highlights.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Was o D. Yeah. I thought sixteen and a half,
I thought I was going. I thought I was going
this will happen. I got the suspension. Hurt me a
little bit. And it's so funny that that that in
terms of that suspension, that ball got the rolling right
(09:22):
after that game. You know, I've seen nobody knows that.
I don't care no more in the league. But compliance
they hit me on Sunday like here, it takes what
needs to be coming here on one day, like my
person my personnel, dude, he called me, say everything good person.
He was. He was hyped too, because I just had
(09:43):
came off a game Wisconsin four sacks two tier two
four s fumbers, Like I'm we were right in that.
You know what I'm saying, We're in it. You know
what I'm saying, Like, you know what I'm saying. It's
hot right now. You know so, man, right after the
best game of my career, I going there. First thing
they asked me was to open my bank account on nine.
(10:05):
I'm open about open my bank account. And then it
got and then it got to a point that was like, okay,
well you might not be able to play. I'm like,
oh yeah, it's about to get serious a little bit.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, wake you up. Oh you was you wasn't kidding.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I had to go right then and there. I thought
I could handle this. Like a week after I heard that,
that's when I had to call my mom. Help. We
got we got this situation. I told her. I told her,
I said, Mam, I think I think I I used
a different word, but I said, I think I messed up.
(10:43):
I messed up. I think I messed up this time.
I might need to come on down this this real
life right at all? You know, and they my parents,
But yeah, bro that it was crazy. Bro, it was crazy.
I said, your mom, your mom a writer Charles Wilson
when I was on stage, looked at me, shook my hand.
It was like a yeah, but you know you're the
(11:04):
one this thing. If you didn't get suspended right, Oh
you know what I'm saying. But I said, I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
You finished second in votes, you finished second in most
first place vote. It was it was going crazy overall.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I guess I don't even know how that works. Yeah,
I don't. Yeah, I don't. You know Joe Burrow though,
you know, he was that guy to that year they
had he came out there with the jersey with the
with occasion spelling the Burrow. I said it took me
a couple of days to realize why that video was
so legendary. Give me I didn't you know what I'm
(11:38):
saying Now I get it. E A U X. Yeah,
that's hard, though, I can't they say that's hard. He
did that. Joe did what he did, He did it.
He did that, no doubt. Absolutely. I mean he shout
out just he really an old state guy. So he
just you know, ya know, how to use it broke,
So he had to go somewhere. R I p Dwayne
(12:00):
Haskins at the time, Dwayne through fifty something touchdowns, Joe
fifty one, Dwayne through fifty So, man, it was you
not we had some talent, right, So I mean you
play you played with with what you played with Joey No.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Nick Bosi Nick. It was Nick on one side, you
on the other.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
And then on the last at the three games because
Nick got hurt. Yeah, and Cooper was Coop was with
me too, Jonathan Cooper cool. He liked though he's lighter
than us, for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Them them them the Denver Edges nmboy was two for
they both like they both like okay, you know, like
I said, always, you.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Get your degree. I ain't get my degree. I'm gonna
get my degree one day. Don't even answer that. I
answered for you. I tell people go ahead. Yeah, I'm
like said, I'm not gonna let you fish that. Yeah,
I said, yo. Uh my wife got a degree. She
got it from both of us. You're good that y'all.
Y'all unit, you know what I'm saying. You know what
(13:07):
I'm saying, Look at a degree in the house. So
then you go to the draft. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
where was the draft for you? It wasn't New York.
Oh you stayed at the crib. I was a COVID.
Uh yeah, bro, that'sh It was wild because they you
(13:28):
can even have a certain amount of people in the house, right.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
So I tried to get my immediate family and my grandma.
You know, I had my train there, and it was
I mean, it was at the crib. It was like
sixty people outside my house. It was raining. Oh right,
when I got drafted, all my family friends came outside
the house because they couldn't come in. I only had
(13:54):
to wait ten minutes anyway, It's not like they had
a long wait there. Yeah. I was, man, I ain't
gonna fay out blessed not to be able to have
to sit through you know what I'm saying, It was
a blessing for sure. I already knew I was going
for real. Yeah, even at the combine, but I had
like five interviews. When they had five interviews, you you
(14:15):
was interviewing them. They was an interviewing you. And you
know how like in the in the drafts and they're
talking about like when you're going there, this, that, and
the third they're gonna pull up all your bathroom mm hm,
put all my good film.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Man, love to love to hear it.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, no, I mean you know what I'm saying, like
like y'all pulled that up? Are you ready to defend yourself?
They're like, no, you did this good? This good? What
was you thinking? What was you thinking here? That win? Win? Nah?
For real thought win? Man? You feel cheated out the
draft joke like I didn't get Yeah, you could have
(14:52):
been in Nashville or New York or Vegas. It was
supposed to be in Vegas and it was it was
supposed to be. We go out and get our jerseys.
We go out on the boat to the to the floor,
like we go out on the boat, right and of course,
you know the best year. You know, I mean the
year you know that I go, it's of course it
is COVID.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
No, you can't already you know you're already great. You
can't just give that le legendary experience. BOYD, don't send
me no boatut a cap.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
On already got the heisman gone, Man, that is crazy,
that's crazy. It was crazy. It was a you know,
playing COVID year out there having fun. You know, y'all
have to you know, you play there having to have
your guys own juice, you know, like you know what
I'm saying, because it's no fans, no fans, It ain't
(15:46):
none of that. You know what I'm saying. I'm not
gonna lie to you.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I love COVID year football.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I did too. It was like it was calm out there. Quiet.
It's like a scrimmage. You can hear everything. Coach, you
sit in all checks. You ain't see that up man,
nah for real? Yeah, because you can hear him. Nah
that It did help. I would say it definitely. It
definitely helpen aspect. You see all that. Like, man, it
(16:14):
was quick.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
You go ahead, come on, ain't no family, ain't no friends,
ain't nobody like they's telling you about your media.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Hey, hey, I take that on the road while I'm
in a home, like, oh, we need to do interviews.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Great man, man. So twy dropped the leak year. People
wonder why, Like my first year coming in, I wasn't
used to going to OTA's right, because my first year
it was like a free summer. Right. So I'm thinking
in my head, I'm about to run this back, and
then I'm like, dang, there, weren't me there Now all
(16:46):
of sudden, it's important to be there. You know what
I'm saying. Now, it was just new for it. It
just wouldn't I didn't do it yet, you know what
I'm saying. I seen what it was like without it, absolutely,
you know, it was just definitely it's definitely doable.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
It's you get you get your Like the importance of
of O t as. I've never understood it because my
rookie year I didn't have it either. I had the
lock out year. I showed up training camp.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, me too, And we showed up at training camp,
watch meetings in the morning at home, went into practice
and went and came home and got on you.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
That was.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
That's yeah, it was so sweet. It was no doubt
your rookie year, yo. You know you had.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Players are not ogs, you know, like y'all had a
young D line. What the big Pain was there already
or Jay big John Allen.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I was a little older, okay that yeah, yeah, linebacker
a corner of the year. So we had kendew Fuller,
we had dB, we had some dvs. That was all
the kendel full of Ronald Dark.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I'm thinking like the D line though, like y'all was
all year.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
One, two, three, three or four more like thank John.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
First rounder, all first rounders, all top tens.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
My first year, top five defense. That makes sense what
I'm saying. They say you're going to be lying. Go
and if all y'all got first top ten pedigrees, it
makes a lot of sense because John and Pain in there,
bro mm hmmm. It's different now, John, you gotta think
in terms of pocket puts. John hitting the hump move
(18:31):
every time, power hum straight, pushing him back right edge
on that edge. I don't need no inside moves. John
need collapse the whole joint, right you know.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Hey, that's that's crazy thing though, And then you you
just mess around. There ain't no stepup because Big Pain.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Was right there too. Pa ain't had a lapin.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Man for your first season, finished for seven and halven
mm hmmm hm hm.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Trying to go get, I mean one go and get
you know what I'm saying. But you know we're going
for man, you know, going for.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Absolutely coming out the gate. What wasn't half in the
first game?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Nah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fumble too. M hm
m hmm yeah, man, it was. Uh that's crazy, That's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Hell of a rookie year. I ain't never been traded.
Hopefully I'll never get traded. But let's talk about this
trade situation to a team. You go back to the crib,
you from the d n V you played for Washington.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, it's funny. Does it feels like betrayal when they
trade you? Yes? Okay at first, you know what I'm saying, Right, everybody,
I feel like everybody who gets traded might feel a
little bit because.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
You always you always want to make home, Like damn,
it's medium, you.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Know what I'm saying, Like, you know, and then I mean,
so my agents started to kind of put it in
my ear, not put it in my ear, but like
you know you got hurt. You know what I'm saying,
because of injury, you haven't played this. That and the
third just breaking it down to me the real life,
like why certain things happened in the league but they
(20:17):
didn't tell me, and it they waited till the end, bro,
Like I'm talking about I think it's like at four o'clock,
well three o'clock if it was at four o'clock, but
they waited till like three forty five to trade me.
I'm on a massage bed, bro, tis just get traded,
(20:38):
So I'm like that. That That one was like, okay,
that's they were saying, tis for real. They weren't even
saying me yet. As it got closer, they was like,
Chase could be too. But you know where it's smoke,
that is fire, right If you start popping up, that
mean somebody didn't put it out on the media. Got
to be off for somewhere out there, I understand, right.
(20:59):
So I'm on the beside and I'm like, okay, I
guess some good man. That's besides I wake up. My
phone is on fire. Forty nine forty nine ers, Welcome
to the forty nine er four, your niner. I'm like
m hmm. It's funny after that, never went back into
the facility to grab my stuff. They just send it.
They send it. I don't want to talk to y'all. Yeah,
(21:21):
you know, but you know it's no no how it finished.
It's a business. Oh you know, got two shocked on
him last year. J Daniels, come here.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
You know what I want sight every time I see you.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Every time this point on. Stay tuned, we'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I'm on the same wave. They have betrayed me. I
like to burn bridges. I like the burn bridge. You
didn't want me.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Oh, I eat you with everything that I am. Man. Man,
they they you, they can never do that. That's crazy.
There was always rumors when I was younger, bro it
just never never came about. You know what I'm saying.
I went up there one time. I said, you're gonna
send me to Buffalo. He's, okay, what's talking about? I said, Buffalo?
I say it's too damn cold for me to be
(22:14):
in Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I said, I'll retire right now. I swear, I swear
he's a kill. Nobody even sayd anything. Let's sit down,
let's talk about this. He said, Hey, what if it
was a good situation for you. How are you gonna
get trade out of me? I retire, I said, you've
already messed up and paid me.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I have.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I never have to work again. You sent me, You
sent me to somewhere.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I don't want to be Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
You know, it takes it takes a special East Coaster
to live in Buffalo, because I'm not that.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
I'm from the West Coast. I'm from Arizona.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's different, bro. I don't even
that's different for you. That's different for you. That's a
real different for you. Bro. Giving I'm getting spoiled right now, right,
I understand I'm getting spoiled. Christmas is seventy five degrees outside.
But it's like I kind of missed the cold. I
kind of miss it a little bit. Explain what do
(23:05):
you mean by that?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
It's like you're going out there because you know, when
you're playing the cold, it hurts the chest, but you
are wait though, it's like playing in the cold to
you know what I'm saying, Like you you know what
I'm saying, Like you ain't sweating for it, you ain't
getting tired out there like you just the hit depends
on how cold that the hits be hurting a little
bit more. But high key officer linem and they don't
(23:27):
really want to kick for real because it's cold. They
need you know all that.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
You know, no, I don't do that, but I'm trying
to see I'm trying to see my best eleven versus
your best eleven.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
The cold does not provide that.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I think sub thirty degrees that does not provide the
right environment for the best hits.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
A good thirty eight though, thirty eight to forty. You
want to be that mess? Just to me?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Hell no, all right, all right, be on the trade.
Tell me what what a free agency was like? You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Right after it was nerveous, nerve racking for real, brain
gonna fake. It was like, you know, you actually agent,
like anybody call today, anybody this? That? And the third
what's going on with the notes? It's like you want
to know something very second you kind of it's like,
you know, that's what we do. This is our livelihood.
And you just came off surgery, so for yours for sure,
nah so so so with that, So I'm gonna tell
(24:26):
you so what that was right. Basically, I took a
visit to the Panthers, got my little whatever physical I
didn't pass it, and it was because my neck, and
I'm like, I'm like kept coming on. I'm like, that's
my age. I'm like, look, We're gonna have to take
(24:47):
care of this because I'm tired of like I'm tired
of dealing with it. So We're gonna have to go
somewhere about to take care of it. Boom, Like two
days later, we're like, okay, cool, this, that and the third.
But we had to be real strategic because you don't
really want Yeah, you don't need the world at right.
Everybody know now, right, But at the time you didn't
want that, And so New Orleans popped up. It was like,
(25:16):
all right, we're cool, we'll let him go through the
surgery we want to, because I guess they had a
player to do the same surgery yeah before and uh quick,
little fusion fuse it up. I think I'm not mistaken
that Devin bro had it done in l s U
(25:36):
and then went to go have a great career in
the CFL and came to New Orleans. Yeah yeah, yeah,
so you got it done. And it was like the
Neil Hunter. Yeah he got it.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I had it, big muscle band skill.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I mean it really don't because even how far you
can move your neck right now, it's not how far
you can really move it anyway. You know what I'm saying,
Like in terms of like our next you know what
I'm saying, like we like even you moved Joe joints
to the right, were really supposed to move with probably
a little more degrees, but not gonna be typed regardless
of it's really not you know what I'm saying. You
(26:13):
got you got the big ass traps. Yeah, you ain't
need to move up anyway. You always in the gym anyway, boy,
you lived six times a week. Man, I'm glad. Hey,
Cam Jordan said that, y'all not me.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
If there's anybody in the weight room, it's you, I sir,
I just want to You're gonna see me running on
this elliptical doing doing some drills.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
So you said not not lifting as much, put some
years on your career.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Absolutely what I have not put a bar on my back,
and you.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Don't need no bar in your bathroom. Yeah, I mean,
you know I.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Get I get on the pitch shark, I do like
the little I love that we got the little air
mneumonic pressure, you know, the little whatever them joints is
called the little squad rack.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Show you that.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
You know the kaisers yay, I like you know it.
It's body weight or just like let's let's test motion.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
I love that, you know, saying let me get explosive
on them jump but this whole hey, let me put
three four hundred pounds in your back.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
For what it's real, I feel like it's more mental, bro.
I feel like that's all mental for real. Like college workouts,
it's all mental. Man.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
College workouts, we have what we call g g T,
God Given Talent, Maji Tyson, a little loutle Derek Hill.
They be like, man, I ain't got it today GGT.
But on the test day they get under five hundred pounds,
be wrapping it out.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I said, y'all, y'all like that, like yeah, I don't
know how people do that. I don't know. I don't
know how people do that. I ain't gonna fake man
be out there. College.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
College is different though, Like you could coach tell you, oh,
we got twenty hundreds to day, and.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
You like there ain't just a lot. And then go
do see y'all after practice. I think y'all had it
worse than us to show in terms of twenty because
what was a'll like conditioned, Like, what was twenty hundred?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, I think twenty hundreds was was one year we
were in the stadium, one year we were in the
whole cow stadium.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
One year. That was twenty hundreds. Sound crazy to me, bro,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
That was that was back when you know, coaches was
really trying to like test every power.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Everybody's back was lit up, had to be bro, everybody
back had to be lit up. Bro.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Man, you know I'm built to run, Bro, Like, yeah,
I'm out there. I'm out there galloping, right, I think
I missed one on like just messing around.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
We the most. That so what we would do, but
like our conditioning test, like so we would go to
the stadium with warm up and then we'll do like
position drills first coach though, but with you know, you
know we're called the coach J's playground. Though she got
some drills for you. They be long. We call it
(28:57):
the obstacle courts. We called it off course because it
was all the all the drid so long. So he
had like basically they get us going first to tire
us out. Then we just had two three hundred yard
shuttles at three yard shuttle used to get it out here.
Twenty five fifty yard turn. I think it was sixty
(29:18):
sixty yard turn. No, we went up, back up, back up.
I don't know that's what that'd be about. Sixty yeah, yeah,
that's all. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
We had a six we had a sixth turn. I brote,
but the train for the sixth turn we used to
do when I got to leave. We used to do
three three hundred yard shuttles, and he.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Used to be a fifty yard turns, but if he
was like a smaller guy, would be twenty five turns.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I'm twenty five turns like that week because it's really
did the stop and go. It's just not being gold
to get you. Every time. He'd be out there burning
like lady, burning like Lord Jesus. If you can go
coast up, that's why. Okay, okay, I see twenty hundreds.
You take off you coasting straight.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
You're coasting you really you really pushed for twenty.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yes, getting out on you coast, don't reach listen the
handies you know what I'm saying, I don't reach because
Mickey tellers do not reach, waiting on the hand to
get pulled. Hey, we ain't get none of that. It
was go.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
But we had, in fact, we're The craziest conditioning test
we had was at the Saints. I just seen I
just seen a kid stop playing football, never to play
football again. Wide receiver faise on something or other off.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
A conditioning test.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah, it was a receiver from Florida or something like that,
jacked up probably four percent body fat bills to be
an at. I'm saying though, we did ten uh ten
power cleans, fifteen Burpy's twenty ball squads, and then you
had like a forty yard ladder and you did that
like three or four times for time.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Four times. I was real, that's it was. It was continuous. Yeah,
you're continuous. My man gave out. No, that's the kidney feeling. Huh.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Boy had k like Kenny feel like body was like
I can't.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Do this no more liketed. No, he never saw him
play football again. Y'all was u y'all was what the
little people who CrossFit, yes' cross. So he brought some he.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Brought crossfitters in and they couldn't even beat our times.
You're like, yeah, these guys gon show you how to
do it.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I mean they're not freaking they're not freakingly athletic. That's
not right. You know, that's why they crossfitt.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
It was crazy, all right. But let's just say you
come to the Saints. We already kicked all that now
and you know new CBA says we can we can
only run so many yards that saves you. Ain't no
jingle jangles, ain't no like running down gasps with the whistles,
slasher just slamming down.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
You know, we're the blessed period of time.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Like right now you went to the league ten years
is viable, you know, like fifty years doable?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Doable? Right It's it's it's you can It's real, doable,
no doubt, because was it back then? Was even before
you was stretch. It was a stretch. I mean that's
like average was like two point eight years when I
first got to the league.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
And now that John's like for change.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I mean, you you you doing it though you're making
U make You've made legendary. You know what I'm saying.
Fifteen you made it even even when I got into
the league, like I didn't know obviously I knew who
he was, but I just yeah, the podcast and everything helped,
you know, bring out people's personal I was being my
team man now too. But I used to know you.
(32:35):
But I'm like, okay, I didn't know. I didn't know
about this joint. You know what I'm saying. I didn't
know about that, you know, but yeah, we.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Were out here working.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
You know, the work don't continue now. You did it
because you did it. You did it. You was You
was one of the real consistent ones. You you stayed consistent.
You know, it was never like a.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Ain't no real drop off.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah, a real job. You know what I'm saying. Even
eight and a half right now, we're working.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
You know, they tried to look this guls I got
that chip mushoulder.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
They tried to bury me last year.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Your coach, hey one to that day. One person, Yo,
pussed me off.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
One person.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
You got to you got to the safe. So you like,
bro this He's like if you run games every every
time you hit.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Third every for real?
Speaker 4 (33:30):
No can you as you see everything I said last
year is what we're doing right now.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I'm just saying what I'm doing to win straight straight,
I'm better than this guy in front of me. I
like that. For me, that is just running this tape
all day. Just get that. Give you give me enough
for the ones, and our corners do what they're supposed
to do. I'm going to win. We're going We got
eight and a half. You want Look, if you had
(33:55):
this year, you'd have been at one third if you
played wide now your whole grip.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
But if I didn't have talk have them as a
D line coach, I'd have been thirty two years ago.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
But who that trash guy? Oh you're like not, I say,
for for us, bro, I have a locker room. Our
locker room fire.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I think I said, yeah, no, go ahead, even like
even even though we started off rough as hell, I
was telling me.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I was like, no, our locker room be rocking together.
Like I know we ain't winning, but it's not like
we getting blown out. We had, you know, six games
that we really could have won.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
For real. I said it the other day and I
was like, man, I really messed with y'all. You know
what I'm saying, Like you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
that was the kool aid olve, Like, guys, we have
(34:51):
a great locker room. You know your boys, sh he
is coming with him, you know, next year, I think
I think we're gonna see some good things, great things,
great things, A lot of a lot of promise in
the in that locker room.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
It is, I mean it is to to you know,
was going until six took over and then you talked
about even our tight ess. Juwan Johnson came alive and
he's you know, great teammate as well.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Shot in the yards see me, yeah, even getting the ball,
he was getting the rock, show right, him getting the rock,
even getting that rock.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
You know, yeah, you know me, I always I would
be like yo, D line got to be close, and
even though we split rooms for the first time ever,
like we still go defensive line dinners like the D line,
D line Didner's we clutch.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah, first time.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I remember, we ain't have no finite system and I
still don't.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I still I don't. I don't know how. I still
don't know how. I'm just gonna use this. I ain't
even going to it, but Barts, that's crazy, bro, Like
I'm with it.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Whatever the D line want, you know, I mean, you know,
all season we're going to Canada. We didn't going to
Mexico one year, we didn't go. You know what I'm saying,
I guess you have the o gs. You have real
G that's.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Mane, you have the Lake show you the way Bro.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
I played with Kevin Williams, ken Williams from the Minnesota, Minnesota,
you know the Williams Wall, my super o G.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yeah, he came here and think about second year and
I was.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Like, dang, this is like legend legendary. Yeah, that's like
man with Adrian Peterson. I had a Washington, I had
a p at the Saints. He's the only dude. He
the only dude I know who can have a living
in practice right and people to head back. Man, still
(36:48):
he's still the same.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
They take off that said, that's that ships so crazy,
you know what.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I was saying.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Now, let's talk about who's the hardest running back you
ever had to take down?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Learning from that.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Or Buffalo?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah he was heavy. What man's limb? I hit him, No, diddy,
look I gotta because I don't got time. Yah. I
hit him, man. I thought I had to check my bro.
I felt like my chest broke, bro because you know,
(37:27):
you know when he running through the whole and you
got big grunk right here. You know, back in my here,
I was two fifty five, Bro, and I wouldn't. I
wouldn't in the weight room, like right now, you know
what I'm saying. Like, so I'm already like, I'm like,
all right, get off. I put the arm out, Bro.
He hit my chest. Bro, I thought it was cold.
I'm like, whoa, you know, I can't even feel nothing.
(37:51):
I'm like whoa. And I said from there point on,
I mean I still, you know, still tackling the rest
of the game. But I was like, right, learn that.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I mean, hey, for me, Bro, you remember Eddie Lacy
big being big fidy Eddy zebra k guy.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Bro was going for one thousand yards the hard way.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Come here? Can you last long as a running back
in the NFL? Doing that every year? I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
No, you gotta have Somethingessa's speech last last seventy ten.
You can't be a come here, I see cam scatterb
come here, hear down for my head. It's not gonna
like you know that that'll work for four five.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Maybe three, because it's gonna be somebody who you're gonna meet.
Your making no doubt after that.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Officially gonna find a double D in the hole, I say, hey,
bone bile man, Eventually he gonna find.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
He's gonna meet his maga with that boy.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Hey, I seen Leonard Fournete come through that whole A
D line might have colored for the side. Double ed
caught him dead on fet I saw him do a
helicopter in the air.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
I said, mmmm. Oh. Now, I had a teammate at
Washington at the time. He played with the charges man
named Ja Patterson. Grew up together. M man, we played, y'all.
I was we played on my second year, thinking that's
when James for starting. He said, double D with the
hardest dude that ever hit him? No, did he again?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Hey, I didn't know nothing about that man until he
got to the Saints. I said, Oh, this guy double
the Jets. I've seen this film.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
It's okay. He made y'all wrong with y'all though he
made this wrong with job right, he made job.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Hey, this sixty three linebacker coming down here schmacking cats
and said, who is this man? Boom sixteen hundred tackles.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
In his career so far? What's the record?
Speaker 3 (39:50):
I don't know, but this sixteen hundred. He getting in
the rare territory. They threw that one out last week.
Was like one of the few linebackers that sixteen hundred tackles.
I said, I believe it. Sixteen hundred is a.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Lot double d man he about it though, man, he
one dude, I can say about it, about it true.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Last question, because I've clearly skipped over, I thought about this.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I was like, damn, what haven't you done?
Speaker 2 (40:13):
You You hit a super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
You guys lost to the uh I mean to the
Chiefs and overtime that year. Yes, but but you went
You've been to the highest stage and you had a sack.
Bull was gonna stupid at the right time.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Like that joint got me. That joint got me on
for thirteen. But hey with the Hey, I knew I
had to go that day.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Right Lord, What was it like playing the super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (40:43):
It was it was a different it was a I mean,
you've been in the playoffs. It's uh right, it's that
you know, you can like cut through the air like
it's you feel it. It's just a different or bro
because you know, when you're playing for something that's bigger
than you, you know, and you in that and you
in that moment. It's just a certain energy that everybody
(41:03):
has in the whole locker room that just makes it different,
you know what I'm saying. Then it's like, you know,
you go to looking at it, watching it when you
was a kid, and then it's like you're seeing all
the stars that's there, and you know it was it was,
it was, it was crazy, bro. You know, I'm looking
at on the type of celebrities there on the sideline, like,
and then it's like you're like, dang, we're here. This
(41:25):
is this is the whole world is literally watching this
is no for real, no for real. So it's like
I made some shakes you why you know, I was
already upset. I had ninety two mm hmm. But I
made the best of it.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Man.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
That man, these are facts. I mean it's like that's
like a one tech bro. That's like, that's come on,
that's deep, that's DJ bro. I mean yeah, lower, I mean,
ninety would have been a cool flat ninety was it's cool?
Ninety one cool? Really is really any ninety I'm good
with anything. Number No. Seventy, seventy, the seventies numbers. I
(42:07):
was seventy. I was seventy sixties. Sixty is crazy. That's
guards you a straight guard to center. I mean real good,
real good centers got sixty two. If you got if
you were a center, you got sixty two. Yeah, sixty
two or sixty you are, But you defensive being with
a sixty number. Only See this is still training camp.
That's what that is. If you see a d N
(42:29):
in sixty, it's still training camp.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
DH Jared Allen, But the only one I know that
had sixty nine, I said, he he's.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
A wild boy. Hey, Jared, I salute you, big dog.
I salute you absolutely that salutes you.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
All right.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Anyway, let me let me get you out of there. Man.
I appreciate you for your time. I told you thirty
minutes here. We are rapping.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
You know we bought oh yeah, but uh, you know
I'm going to the game and Sons playing. Son's played
the Pelicans tonight. You know, tam one a team one B.
I gotta go see my boys play dev splash Booker.
They have the flamethrower versus you know, Derrick Queen. You
know Jeremiah Fears big z.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Big z Zion be going crazy, going crazy crazy. He
really big football explosive football playoff there.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Murphy's going wow.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Yeah, yeah, Tray, but Bunny's going crazy. He'd be forty
years vert.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Definitely, definitely Bunny's going crazy. Sure stop. Anyway, thank you
for doing the podcast. You know what I'm saying. I
appreciate our listeners. Out my dog for my dog out here.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Just signed a you know, a three year stension with
the Saints. He's gonna be the future, the face you
know from this point on. Yeah, you know, the next
wave can't do what you did.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Of course you can.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
You could go through him bore better in the next
next six.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
He you know, I'm gonna listen to tank Man. He
told me. Hey, he said, yeah, you got a long
way to go to my dad. I said, you're right now,
that's my son.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
I love him. Hey, bro, thank Jordan talks like he
he grown me, and I like trying to tell him myself, Hey, bro,
you not me.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
You can't just talk like he said. He's well, Grandpa
played in the league.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
You played the league.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Where do you think I'm going?
Speaker 2 (44:22):
That's all?
Speaker 4 (44:23):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (44:24):
I said? I mean take workouts. Are you willing to
do the work? You can do it. You gotta earn it.
You got you got it. I'm gonna give you the intangibles.
He gonna earn it. I mean he's gonna have that,
he gonna have that dog in them yet physical specimen already.
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