September 17, 2025 • 38 mins
ESPN’s Mina Kimes joins Cam Jordan on Off the Edge for a wide-ranging, hilarious, and sharp conversation about the NFL. Mina breaks down why defenses are pushing back against the league’s offensive explosion. Cam makes bold QB comps for Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, and Patrick Mahomes, and Mina explains why the Seahawks’ old-school style could surprise people. She also shares her most impressive teams through two weeks, the underrated players fans should keep an eye on, and whether Joe Burrow should shut it down this season. Plus, Cam and Mina swap stories on new media, Saints locker room vibes, and yes—Mina’s infamous “Doin’ It” on the radio moment.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Appreciate everybody tuning back here to my podcast Off the
Edge of Me. You know hem, I'm Jordan. I'm super
excited to introduce to my guests Mina Kimes, whose resume
speaks for herself. She talks football ESPN. She's the also
the Mina Kaimes featuring Lenny Show. She's also a twelve fan.
And you know who we're playing, you know, like, we're
playing the Seahawks. And I'm still not sure where this
(00:27):
twelfth man came from because technically all teams have twelfth
men in the NFL. But fine, we'll talk about it.
We'll dive in. Welcome Mina. I appreciate you for coming
to be a part of this. I do love talking
to analysts. Would like to be analyzed? Is that? Is
that how this works?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I don't like to be analyzed, but I'd like to
talk about the game. Nah.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
No, We're gonna deep dive into that. Shortly, it's time
for this week's Drive for Success Conversation presented by Toyota.
Let's go places. Mean, how old are you? How old
are you? How are you? Wow? The things the things
that we got a backmeddle from.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I'm old enough that I need you to keep playing
forever so that I actually have people moderately close to
my age in the league.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Oh no, no, no, I'm not doing this. The last time
we sat down was that two years ago.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
It's been a minute, Yeah, it had been.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
It had been too long, still going strong, you know,
fifteen years in you know, in my mind, I just
want to like set up a scene, like just think
fifteen Like what a what a time to be alive?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Thirty six? It active?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
You know who I was watching though this week took
me a second to get to his game. Old ass
kal kalaas Campbell. How is he still so damn good?
He is thirty nine years old and he is still wrecking.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
He's called game, Paul, game called game Cardinals. What what
do you need? You need this, Carolina? Come here, Bryce, y'all.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
He looked like a dad out there with SIUs Cretancy was.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Not ees descriptcy alone like players. They'd say he's six eight,
but he feels like six', ten you. Know and Then
Bryce young they say that he's five, ten but he
feels like they.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Lie but oh do you, know, wait do you know
the story of Being Bryce young and the size? Thing, No,
okay so you've been around. Me you, Know i'm like five,
seven little utter five, seven the tall lady ahead of the.
DRAFT a picture of me and him went viral BECAUSE
i was standing next to him AND i was wearing
heels but were the same. Size but everyone's, like, whoa
(02:29):
this kid is not five, Ten AND i was like, no, no,
no, no you, KNOW i just don't. Understand i'm were heels in.
This but he got so much because of this. Picture
So i've been feeling guilty about it ever.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Since, AH i don't know what that's on, him that's
not on. You you, know you can't help. It you
were out there trying to pop the calf, muscles you,
know you were trying to get the dress. Going you
had the heels, all you, know you had your tee's.
Up he probably should have. Done you. Know he's the
little platform, shoes like The Versace mints shoes that got
like the super thick.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Soul yeah you, lift you know.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
LIFT i wouldn't, know you, Know i'm just a slight six.'
four i'm just thinking about that Name, class.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Campbell right like. You're huge he's a different kind, Of
huge like he's even huge FOR an. NFL player i
don't think people understand THAT because i mean person to get, it.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Place walks body like that's A, big yep that's a.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Big, man yeah that's a large even.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Right this like year fifteen sounds crazy, to Me but i'm, just,
thinking like, YOU know i FEEL like i want to
set up a story because like, year fifteen where were you?
AT fifteen i Think Young mena kimes was driving down
the Road, in, arizona, right yeah where, you resided because we're,
you Know we're arizona phone ye in The family's dodge
caravan or what she called the. Ugly, Box, yeah taylor
(03:51):
you know the ugly green box that smelled like. Shin
Guards young meta's dad is in the. Passionate Seat young
mena decides to turn on the radio and one comes
out doing IT BY Lll. COUJ classic i just want,
to know, you know what in the world goes through
your mind when the song.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Comes on i'm gonna crash this CAR because i can't
make eye contact with my dad. While this that's gotta
be LIKE if i was drafting songs that you don't
want to listen to in the presence of. Your parents
that's gotta be like number one draft pick.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
FOR me I was i was doing it and doing
it and doing, it well and, you was.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
You know trying to look at, your parents your dad
next to you when that song. Comes on, OH ah
I think i was Driving on, chandler though Like To Chandler.
Fashion square you Know About Chandler.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Fashion, square absolutely and then then, you know m h,
we saw, we saw, you know so we saw a
nice little post. ABOUT it i, was like doing my
research for. THIS interview i saw a nice LIT plus, i,
said wait how was this public? Information already?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
You know and then when, you're old just everything's out.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
There already first, first accident. ONLY accident.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I got hit, once parked so that one wasn't. My, fault,
Okay yeah i'm a.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Good, DRIVER Hey i I've been i've. Been hit what
was that? Last week two? Weeks ago lady was at
the stop sign and just like backs UP and i
huffed the horn and she just kept, backing UP and i,
was like what are we? Doing here she got out and, was,
Like oh, i'm SORRY and i, WAS like i didn't.
See YOU and i, was like how did you not
see this big old? Green truck so, you like, No,
(05:28):
doubt no she was. OLD old i think she Just,
Couldn't YEAH and i was, LIKE no i, WAS like i,
WAS like i looked at. MY car i looked at.
Her car, WAS like i, was like my car. Is
good your car needs? Some work like you taped my
my Tire about i'm big, boy status, you know big
man blast toys in this big old in this big
old truck. Flas toys, but anyways you know which this
(05:50):
sort of leads, you into how has it been working OVER?
At espn how? Is that?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
It's, great man we're YOUR Six nfl live since they
put the, Band together you've. Come on, you know you
know everybody on. OUR show i, feel like You, know
marcus You, know dan you KNOW, r c you know, The, Crew.
Laura RUTLANE it's i think best football.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Show around Why does laura get the only one with the?
Last name You, know dan you know you KNOW. R
c and. IT'S okay i suit you did their. GIRL
power i.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Love her she's such a. Good host, but yeah the show.
IS awesome, i mean, you know we cut up. Every
day we, talked football, just football and we like it
never gets old, for me never.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Gets, old absolutely the congomerate THAT is espn that just
ABSORBED With nfl network for the, most part lowly left
like two programs out there is there effects There are
can we Move to? La?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Now, UH well i LIVE In la SO hopefully i
think that's gonna take. A second hopefully by the time
that you are out and working for whatever media entity
you decide to, work for you'll be part of.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
THE team i, was like, you know then then we'll
just have to pop off our.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Own show, you, know yeah we gotta win The cam juring.
Bidding war when we.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Don't get, me excited, You know i'm on. YOUR corner,
i mean, you know for you to have the career
that you've had, So far like it's it's hard like
this women in especially, About football guys go hard about
this and yeah you stand tall and you take a
brace of Stances and, i'm, Like, Yeah mina, i'm, like yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
People be hard on, the internet but players, are cool like,
Good conversations like THE people i work with. Are awesome
so the people, who matter or at least whose opinions
you want to listen to that there have always been.
Super supportive it's all about.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
The foundation it's all about the foundation and any good
in any, good organization it's about the, locker room. The
foundation the people need to rely on. Your, crew, yeah
absolutely just like you know my team and how we're
Going to but our locker room vibes. Are, vibrant hi
everybody's like pushing each, other, like, hey bro like we're
going to start, more meetings, All right like nobody's, nobody's like,
(07:59):
oh no, LIKE shoulder i. Got rehab, everybody's like, all
right whatever, it, Takes BRO like, o two we're on the.
Same page kellen has been, so like, come, in hey
this is what we need to do. To win we
have to stop and get. These penalties he's coming and
already giving us like, the sauce The, the hey this
is what we could. Have been have we limited these
three or four penalties that stop our, you know our
(08:20):
drives from. Extending out, you know it's got to stop
being stop stop self. INFLICTING pains, I.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Now i had a real chance to win this last
week and the week. Before, that, gosh yeah why you're getting, you,
KNOW no.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I lost. I, LOST yeah i lost my voice while playing.
The game, You know. I'm talking i'm talking. Moucho, Though
YEAH like i just the vibes that. YOU feel i
know that we've got like a young team and people
put out there like you're rebuilding. Or whatever This, is no,
we're building just like every team does when they put
together fifty three. Man roster but you. Can't rebuild you Still, Have,
Tomorrow Davis, Pete, Warner Me, Carl Carl, Chase young you've got,
(08:59):
You Know, brian razi who's been stellar in his first. Three,
years like there's. Not rebuilding we're not shipping, Players off
we're literally building. Talent within You draft tyler shove'spens. Around,
there anyways enough. About me we're not here, For me
we're here. FOR you. A, Mina yeah i'm clearly it's
clearly feeling some type of way And like, i'm like
we're going. To win we Got to seattle coming up.
(09:19):
This week it is what?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
It?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Is? What what what are your thoughts on this new,
media area because Like Now i'm i'm sort of like
dipping my toe IN and i can have you on.
The show we could. Talk football, You Know, micah parsons
they've been streaming from the last couple. Of Years von miller, of,
course yeah, you Know The kelsey brothers and their garage
beer and the garage show and Their H Taylor swift,
cooucher matts like how is the media? SPACE now i.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Love hearing, from like especially active players what you're talking,
about right not just retired guys obviously love hearing and
learning more about, their PERSONALITY but i just love hearing
your insights into like the week to week what's going
on in. The games because we on, the outside especially
with like defensive responsibilities and, play calling we do our
best to say what we think is happening and one
(10:06):
of the strengths and. The weaknesses but it's so different
when you're actually inside and you know what the plan
is going and you know on a given play who's
executing and. Who's failing so from, MY perspective i love.
HEARING it i love that level, of DETAIL and i
love the, Respect TOO like i love hearing you guys
talk about your opponents and talk about who scares you on,
that team what is that play called they're, good at
(10:26):
what gave? Us trouble that's the KIND of i love hearing.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
From you, No doubt i'm scared of Nobody unless. I'm
dropping and there was one play this PAST game i
DROPPED and, I like i. Had, it, YEAH yeah i
LOOK he i, WAS like i, was, like oh this
is This is christian McCaffery to. The FLAT but i
also have to be inside of his. Tight END and i,
was like, All right i'm shooting. My shot and Then.
IMPASSED christian i, was, Like man i'm trying to knock
(10:51):
a third out.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
The stand, you, Know now christian McCaffrey is over one
against you AND COVERAGE i i he.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
DEFINITELY like i, Was like i'm making the. TOP off i.
Don't care i'm shooting. My shot Anytime a cawbert can
get a get ahead of a, shaking tree you gotta.
Take advantage but, you know didn't get. THAT opportunity i was.
LIKE fine i, was like, you know that's when you hype.
Yourself up, you know you were scared to do that.
Checkdown anyways, you know but you just love love, to see,
you know just guys in the space being able to
(11:20):
be their. Own person, you know you gotta gotta gotta
love watching guys retired go on to be AN r
C or jill McCoy or, You Know lashawn. LASHAWN McCoy
a lot of McCoy's but just the. Easy transition you
see guys, you KNOW Like jj Watt From draft class,
Twenty Eleven. Cam newton, of course it's it seems like a,
(11:42):
you know it seems like a eclectic but very solid
error to be in.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Right now everyone's, different too even than guys. You mentioned
you got like the, hot, takers right but then you
got the more detail or into. Tape guys you got
guys who. Do both I'M so i can't wait to
see what kind of space you carve OUT because i
think you can do. It all, but, yeah everybody everybody
brings something different to, the.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Table, no doubt. No doubt i'll say at, this point,
you know what is what is it to have like
the players respect in this in? This FIELD because i mean, you're,
like oh we want to talk, to me and you're
always so gracious and like eloquent with your worries and
willing to like debate it out sometimes. With, ME oh i.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
APPRECIATE it i just think like if you put in
the work and you, actually watch shocked how many people
don't actually watch. THE game, i know you know this
is the last, Few years i'm sure how much people respond.
TO that i feel like, you know if, it's, LIKE
hey i saw, this happen these players, playing wow and
you guys are doing this MORE and i notice this
(12:47):
people respond. To that, You know it's like, any field
right if if somebody's willing to actually put in the time.
AND work i don't UNDERSTAND everything, i See but i'm gonna, ask,
questions right, You KNOW and i think that's part of.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
It, TOO yeah i mean there's nuances. Every defense even while,
Watching games, i'm, LIKE dang i wonder if that's is that?
Cover too is? That going is that press so the
d line actually has time to get to? The quarterback
or is this like what what Kind of i'm always
trying to figure out the packages because they're not, you
know you always have. These, days yeah. No doubt there's
a lot of a lot of, rotated pieces a lot of.
Covered disguises i'm loving how defenses are attacking offenses. Right,
(13:19):
now yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah it does feel like a, sea, change right like
like defense has kind of fought back over the last,
few years especially with like just the confusion that.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
You're SAYING but, I say i'll say yes and no
because in My mind i've always. Been biased SO all
i see. Is defenders, so like even even Like when
i've been an analyst and and done games FOR, The
xfl i'd still, be like and did you see this?
De tackle the way he? Stunted in that's the, Reason, why,
like yo but what about receiver of the?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Skinny, guys, okay okay but, So okay i'm gonna take
you to the game. A, second yeah if you're dialed
in on have you been Watching the seahawks? Defensive Line, Biron.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Murphy, Byron Murphy leo.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Williams might be one almost underay players in the entire.
Nfil opinion been for a, Long.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Time yeah been for a. Long time but Adding To,
marcus lawrence he's a little.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah after giving you your, cow guy, The business uh
this is that this, last week the stunts they were
running were, just.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
KILLING right i. GOT it i got like the sackril
and SO all i get to do Is like, I'm like, i'm,
like oh who got sacks? This week and, then like,
all right is the Team that i'm about to play
on the? Sack REEL so i like the low lights
of their team, like that, love It and I'm like,
I'm watching, i'm watching. You Know lennard williams go Off and, i'm,
like yo like he's still like he's got a little bit,
of everything a little bit for nett and a lot.
(14:40):
Of power, you know he's closer off the line and
yet like you sort of can't get away. From him
and it's fun. To watch and the like, you said
a lot of stunts, being happening a lot of, interior
stuts and then of course like they sort of like
after it's like, inside out which is NOT how i.
PREFER things i prefer we stunt on, the outside then.
Like inside so now we get our one. On ones
(15:02):
but it's like the way that, they're working they're always,
it's like, all right here's a. Straight rush now you get.
Two games here's a. Straight rush oh you think the, Game's, coming, no,
no no it's it's now in. Tier game, you're like
it's it's. IT'S lovely i.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Like it you Watch the bucks game and you watch
the box. Absolutely, Not okay well they were running, All
Yeah levante david running a COFFEEHOUSE stunt o That There's,
levante David The Ageless.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
La davis, I'll say i'll say the way he goes sidelight,
The sideline, i'll say, add ageless so he's he's.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
In there bulls was going crazy On that texans offensive
line with some of the crazy pressures that they're.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Big v bay in, the middle like that's just a.
Large human, RUH man i mean nobody is born, six
five three hundred. And whatever you're going to put that
label on him at and moving the way Him And dexter.
Lawrence massives like there's big people and then there's massoles
and there they. Fit them, you Know The helloa. Negatta effect.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
SPECIAL guys i love it when They drop They Dropped
vita bean to cover just my. Favorite thing it's like
an eclipse of. The sun like imagine being quarterback and
you're all of a sudden you look out can and he's.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Not, wearing gloves but he's covering, yard line the, yard line.
No doubt, oh no let me ask you this out
of all the things, you SAY because, i mean you
don't you're not afraid to take. A stance have you
ever had a, player contact like a player be actually
upset about something? You said i'm, Sure impossible like have
they ever been confronted? About it like you really have
(16:39):
me twisted when you said the mina COACHES.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
And. Gms, Yes, Player no i've never had a PLAYER
because i really try not to, be disrespectful Even if
i'm saying a player is. NOT playing i REALLY especially
i think as someone who didn't play, THE game i
FEEL like i have an extra burden to kind. Of
Be if i'm going to, be critical it has to
be like factual and based, on study but. Not personal
(17:06):
AND so I guess, i, SAID yeah i Don't think
i've ever actually had that Happen. With claire it's always been,
pretty congenial.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
All Right if i'm in the league, next year is,
Just no i'm creating beef. Between us, i'm, like, yo
yo you said YOU said i. Was old. REMEMBER that.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Don't know, I'm sorry, i'm yeah me and you were
starting To be, you're like You're like kim the kid
behind the kid behind you was born in two thousand,
and Two and, I'm.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
CRAZY yeah i envy you having to work with.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
These. ZOOMERS man i, love them, you KNOW like i call.
Them soft, i'm like that's my little my little, soft errors,
you know like anything after like, ninety six these two
thousand and two's, and, Like hey, I'M like i actually
take that with, pride NOW like, I rather i'd rather BE.
O g But as, I'm looking, i'm, like ell you
were born in two thousand. And, five kid.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
That's crazy two thousand, And four like that's.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Not right two thousand. And four, i'm like, oh man like,
Oh no like now you get ankle sprains and you're out.
For weeks you'll get you'll get a cash strain and
be out for. A month, like no you get your like,
You know i'm right on. A cuff you get that,
era like, oh man you got an ac spraying or
just look. At it you pop. That suckerna you go
back and. Play football THAT'S why i tell, my son go.
(18:16):
Play basketball you can spray out for. Six weeks like.
THAT'S fine i, was like, but me like you break a,
real no you finish. The game we're here To. Be
warriors but.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
It's, quarterbacks man, right now they're all going down.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Quarterbacks and martsis is. Close thing we got to real,
basketball players, you, know like, oh no they, spraying something
they're out for. Three weeks it's we, don't know it's
a game. Time decision, but YEAH what i need to?
HIT somebody i. Need it but, Apparently yeah i'm a.
Little different at what point during the season do you
get a true sense of how good team or bad
(18:48):
a team. It is that's a.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Good question it's so it's it's so it takes at least.
A month i THINK before i FEEL like i gotta handle.
On teams it's so, important, too right Because like detroit
week one and gets Stopped By green bay and everybody's
panicking and oh, my god they lost. The coordinators they
can't run, the Football and i'm, Watching that, i'm, thinking
man this pack of defense was already good and they
(19:11):
just Dropped a ferrari on the field Like maybe, detroit's
fine and they just ran into a, buzzsaw with by,
the way a defensive player who Was the queenland chessboard
who they barely got time to. Plan for and then
we see. Week, Two okay detroit Goes Against green Bay
And Eric toroa chicago and they look Just. Like, Detroit
right so you need a. Few weeks you guys see
different levels of competition both sides of. THE ball i
(19:35):
think with, young players young quarterbacks, in particular you need
some time new coaching staffs. In PLACE so i would
say at least. A month what about from, YOUR perspective.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I mean i'd never. REALLY know i don't know Until
about i'm gonna say, two months but really it's probably.
Six weeks, you know like after that, week six you
know sort of where this locker room. Is going and
it's because at WEEK four i feel like you could do,
a cling like, You, can hey this where we're at
this if you wouldn't going to be you could start
(20:07):
changing your fate in. Week FOUR and i have a
firm believer. Ever SINCE like i saw Was It aaron
rodgers And the packers go oh and four and then
have that deep playoff? Run, Relax yeah like it was like, it's, like,
hey man pop, your. Brakes relaxed we got this and
then turned it, up RIGHT and i, was like man, For,
Me Uh, SEAN payton i used, to, say like what?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Is?
Speaker 1 (20:27):
It uh you make your hay in the Month, of
november so that gives you about, two months, you know
like Right around november you better have your your screws. Tightened,
Up though so we're, owing too but in the next
four weeks we could easily be sitting three, and three
four and two whatever. That is if we're, owing six
(20:47):
then we're gonna have to have a.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Coloring, change yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Things, Change, yeah yeah we're not going to think about
this BECAUSE all i know is going to be four,
and two Because that's i'm either Delusional or i'm. Just
Prophetic and. I'm loving. I'm loving i'm loving what. YOU
know i love WHAT the i love what our team has.
BEEN building i don't love the outcome of, the GAMES
but i love that the vibe in the locker room, is,
like well whatever it takes, to win and that's where
(21:13):
we're sort of. At, All, right so if you had
to write an essay about the first two weeks of,
the season on the entirety of, the season what would.
It be what would be? THE theme.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I would say teams that can run the football continue
to be the offenses that really, impressed me which is
A continuation i think of the last couple. Of years
REALLY when i see teams that are like really good
play action passing attacks And Like, green Bay, obviously philadelphia,
(21:49):
YOU know i think IN, The afc Baltimore. And buffalo,
you Know obviously i'm, mutant quarterbacks but like there's there's
like a balance to their games that really has. Impressed
me so MAYBE that i, Would, say, also man the those, Top, Dudes,
lamar josh there's still the top Dudes right like, watching
(22:13):
them it's just, It's crazy like what do you think
what goes through? Your Head you're i'm sure You're watching sunday.
Night football watching these two aliens sent from. Other planets
it feels like they're playing a different sport, to, ME.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Really i mean, FOR me i FEEL like i see
different versions of People that i've, always played, you Know
Like josh allen, And ME like i always like throw
Out the andrew la comparison because he's like a, bigger
body likes, to run take, some risks like can lead.
The team and also at the, same time there's there's
some there's some places you could, take ADVANTAGE which i
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hope to do so on the next, you know and
week what is it for After? After seattle but somebody
who's sort of a freak freak athlete that you just, you're,
Like yo i'm trying to get a hit. On them
and when you, do hit you got to bring everything
because he's big enough. To sustain then You Got, lamar
jackson which, is like, oh man like we haven't Seen
any we'll never See Another. Mike Vick, but MIKE but
I Mean lamar jackson is. More efficient he's, he's faster
(23:12):
he might be like a. Bigger arm, he has he's
got some wherewithal like he has the head on. His
shoulder that the sex defenses is. The upgrade and then,
of course, you know like you, look around, you're, like
man like these are some. Talented cats You Got pat,
Mahomes right he's like like the Upgrade To matt stafford is?
Speaker 2 (23:35):
That yeah, You know, like yeah That's what.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I'm saying like he's got he's got all the throw he,
can make all the throws, he's falling he can make
one with his left hand and. Back Hand like so
it's quarterbacks that we've seen like just evolution of, the
game like they're always, getting. FASTER stronger, i missed, YOU
know i missed the statue quarterbacks put him in the
pocket and they. DON'T move i love those one to make,
(24:00):
bad DECISIONS like i love the guys that want to
pat the Ball please Mar.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
And josh they don't. Take sacks it's, like yeah it's
and they don't turn the ball LIKE they i, don't
know and it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
To me lamar is on a. CRAZY streak i saw
something like his last twenty game stat or something, like
THAT and i, was, like okay we. Get It And
josh allen of course has been has been locked in and, you're,
like okay like, all right like we're in this era right.
Of course You Got pat, mahome boy who's again like he,
loses one like will he lose another? This year like
(24:36):
if he, loses one like in, My Mind pat mahomes
doesn't know how to. Lose period. Hm hmm, you know
into the into, The chat jalen hurts and everybody has
him underrated for some, odd reason like bro just Won A?
Super bowl what are? We doing.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
M hmmmm so uh where We're Putting sam darnold into?
The mix he's your Next.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Mhm. KLINKBIAC yeah i mean that that's in the realm of,
you know on the cusps of what is he things
that we've we've always, been asking, You know and when
he Was in minnesota you saw shining moments and at
the same time, you're like, all right see what? Is
it what is he on the tier? Of great is
(25:15):
he on the tier?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
OF good i think they'd like him to not have
to be great.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Or exceptional i'm okay with him just. Being, unexceptional, like well,
you know.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
You know that they want to get and they want
to put a fullback on. The field they want to
run that wide zone. Rushing attack they want to reaction off.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Of it a lot of a lot, of trickery, you
know a lot of motions. Into aus they're trying to
they're trying to make the defense think and overthink instead
of having to. Simplify, IT luckily I saw kubiak a
part Of the saints all, last year so like sort
of got sort of got familiar with. The motions you
can't ever get used to all these, random, shifts motions whatever,
(25:55):
it is but, you get, you know, you get you.
GET familiar i can't, say comfortable because it's always gonna.
Be uncomfortable we've GOT a yde receiver zooming in and
stopping in come try to hinge BLOCK of dn or
a tight end who's like about to bump but doesn't
bump because he's getting out for a. Quick, route yeah
there's always ways to. Dissect THINGS and i, think, That
Uh clint kubiak is, You, Know, Cliff, Cliff cliff He's.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
A clint there's like A Cliff. A clint there's too many.
Of them there's.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
So Many clint kubiak is a guy that knows how to.
Utilize weapons seattle. Has those i'm not even gonna Try just,
Nit's name so there. WE go i just FEEL but
I think i think with the weapons, of hand we're
we're gonna have to be, you know we're gonna have
to press forward on. That one what is? It like
(26:41):
what what is it that you? See from, oh yeah
as an enadlyst From. From seattle we talked about the,
defensive line but offensive.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Were, SPEAKING yeah i think that this is a this
is a team that's led by. The, defense so, you
know we talk. About that but from the, OFFENSE perspective
i think they want to do exactly what we. Just described,
you know it's kind of, a, Throwback right it's like
you guys Just Played. San francisco it's kind Of Like
san francisco a couple of years ago as Opposed To
san francisco now in terms of wanting the quarterback to
(27:10):
be under center at, the zone running the play action
off of that and the, heavy groupings and they want
to take shots off. Of that they want to get
mismatches they want, to, you GUYS usually i feel like
match heavy groupings. With bass you leave your linebackers on,
the field but they like to throw, on them so
they'd like to attack them with the. Tight ends he
wants to take pressure Off Of. Sam donald this is
(27:32):
not an offense where they're going To Put san donald
on the gun and ask him to just, you know
spread things out. And cook he wants to make a
quarterback friendly System. For donald question is? Just one is
the offensive line? Good Enough are they're better suited to
the zone? Running game? For sure but you know they've
had their ups, and downs you, know that and Then
(27:53):
can donald execute upon. Those opportunities there's a bit of
a mixed bag thus far, this season.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Right RIGHT and i hope it's a. Mixed BAG and
i NEED all i need all the GOODIE bags i,
can get especially. This game you know which player have
you been pleasantly surprised with after the first? Two weeks
and why.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Oh that would be more defensive for me? Than offensive who.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Said it had to? BE offense i prefer a, Defensive
player i'll.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Tell You Josh joe joe be The second he's become
a starting corner, for them it's been pretty damn because
they Didn't Have, devin witherspoon he's their. Best corner in this,
last game he was pretty. DAMN good i thought in this,
Last Game, derek hall that's a name to watch. At
edge nobody Knows Who derek. Hall is he never gets.
Talked about They, got mafe They, got lawrence They have
(28:46):
chennanosu coming back from. The INJURY but I Thought. DEREK
hall i think he was a second round draft pick
a few. Years ago he was exceptional this. Last week
so you go.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Back Watched to, Seattle then.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
OH yeah i thought you were asking me about.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
You, guys, NO no i, want no not, JUST me
i want the. Entire league, oh okay?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Surprised you okays like to say something About. The saints i'm,
TELLING you I Think spencer bradlers played well these first.
Two weeks, i'm like film, Doesn't lie film, doesn't lie
and no one talks. ABOUT him i don't think anyone who.
WATCHES it i think he has really improved upon. Last,
year obviously last year he was pretty, tough circumstances right
(29:25):
with the state of the offensive line and.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
The.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Receiver, room YEAH but i think he is he's got
like really great arm talent and he really, flashes it
and he's. GOT mobility i think his decision making. Is
improved so that GUY who i think just does a
little bit more credit around. The league m, let's see
there's all kinds, of young fun players in. YOUR division,
(29:53):
I thought i'm just watching. The bug you don't want
to pick any. Division rivals, But it mom's not A Can.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Atlanta falcon i'm not going to you.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
On it, you Know catl aana might have gotten a
little bit of a pass rush for the first time in.
FIFTEEN years, I saw, I saw, god knows they've, tried.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Right, You're in, you're out and they fail. EVERY time i. Love, it, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Sorry bucks wise the, two backs it's Not. Just irving i've,
seen this watch the, last night really good back to that,
run game that duo counter, run games. Really good.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Way one in the, entire, league know not not one on. Every,
Team okay.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I'M sorry i should FEEL like i should.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Pick a who you getting? It to?
Speaker 2 (30:40):
ONE player i got a PICKED who i think is
underrated and maybe deserves. More shine hm.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Hm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Trying to think there's so many players it's hard to pick.
Just one i'm, going like team, by team, oh man
maybe he's gotten a lot more. Attention out but the
tight End in green Bit Good Lord. Tucker, crack yeah
he's like a throwback tight, End too like he's like knocking.
Dudes around he's blocking his, ass off and then he
can also get explosive. FOR them i think he's really.
(31:10):
Really good you.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Love it we love a throwback, tight end one that
can block and go and go get, a catch, you
know maybe end up as a six time pro Bowler
of vikings all, time great Maybe Like, steve jordan. Who,
knows oh, But, anyways uh we got to have my
shambles's plug. IN there i feel Like If shannon sharp
can propel his brother to get Into the Hall, Of
(31:33):
fame i'm gonna be On This Steve steve jordan train
tough for the next. Ten years we're. In there we're
going gotta get in. THERE first i gotta get.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
In.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
There, Yeah, Absolutely oh. I'm dude absolutely don't maybe pan
up and show you my dad's jersey. Somewhre running oh
it's right somewhere in that. Bottom corner. All right we'll
go to the next segments called on side or. Off
sides i'll give you. Three questions, you'll say whether you're onside? Or,
OFFSIDE offside i mean. You're ford offside means you're. Against
(32:04):
it Lamar Is lamar jackson the best quarterback IN. The nfl.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
On side it's so close with Him And josh like,
to me they are just neck, and NECK and i.
Hate that it's like become a war now IN the
nfl fans between the two of THEM because i just
they're so both. SO good i know that's a, cop
Out but i'll. SAY onside i voted for HIM. For.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Mvp Uh Should joe burrow play again? This, season oh
that's a.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Good one that's a.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Good one just just got it noticed that he's not
gonna make it, turf tow turfo.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
TURF tow, I know i know what. You're thinking that's
offside for me because they're NOT gonna i FEEL like i.
Don't HEAR what i don't want to see is him
running back. LIKE hurting i that would be. A, mistake
Yeah but bengals are what? To, It, no yeah that's probably. Gonna,
Change yeah well?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
What if? What if later down there they're sitting There nine.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
So the next, FEW games i Get, the Vikes, the Broncos,
the Lions. The packers it's. Gonna get it's. Gonna Get, For, ROCKY.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah i Need a joe. You got you Still Got
trey henderson out their past person his.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Butt off yeah for, a teammate.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Young one chamar just, got, hurt right and we'll see.
What happens but by, the way, all right on sides are.
Off Sides the chiefs will make.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
The playoffs, ON side i think they'll still.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Make, It yeah mahmes is owned too for the first time.
His career crazy don't but they Doubt. The saints that's
four shop bolts in. Six, YEARS okay, i Understand but
i'm that's how MUCH faith i got In. The saints uh?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
All?
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Right perfect That was that? Was THAT and i just
really have like one or two. More questions we can wrap.
THIS up i. Appreciate you oh how much do You
miss do you actually miss writing? Full time is that?
A thing would you? Rather be would you rather be
in front of the camera or at a? DESK writing
(34:11):
i do not miss writing.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Full time. It's hard that's a hard job, these, days
buddy nobody. Reads anymore.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
That's so. Not, TRUE yeah i WOULD say i got
all the notifications for the manga that's about, to DROP
and i read.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Every, chapter okay well MAYBE if i was. Writing, MANGA yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I love i love a. Good force what stock is
about to? BE hot i like the idea of, making money,
you know like you get. Me there, but yeah in terms,
of Games and i'd rather watch it because, You know i'm.
IN it i FEEL like i know. These people, I'm
like i'm getting the inside scoop on how to. Beat
them writing doesn't do. Me justice, but anyways, all right
so you don't miss writing. FULL time i, could have,
(34:56):
YOU know i figured you were an award winning journalist
and it might be like the true essence of sports. Writing.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Sports right it got hard near the, end TOO because
i was like a lot of it was just trying to,
get interviews and, you know you.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Had, a book your.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Own, talent no we had people who helped, with that
but it was. Always HARD now i just show UP
and i give. Hot, takes mmm. Hot takes, you.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Know they're usually they're, usually solidified. Factual takes if there coming,
FROM you i almost, Trust that.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
THANK you i. Appreciate it they're definitely not.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
That hot how much do you think about what the
next evolution of your meta career will. Look like.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Very, Little yeah i'm like a big just look where
my feet are and focus on that kind Of person
LIKE all i care about, is like just let me
get better at The thing i'm doing rather than the.
Next thing that's just kind of the way my.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Mind, works, okay honestly you say. VERY little i thought
you were about to be like me. One day one
day you can, be, LIKE man. I can't jordan was
just on and then what happened to? That guy i'm
gonna be somewhere in the and Like mikon o's like
A beautiful, caribbean island and, you know kids are going to,
be grown so like maybe they, come visit maybe. They
(36:13):
Don't and i'm, just like what do? YOU do i live,
over THERE.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
And i, don't THINK so i don't think to Disappear when.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
I'm, fifty five you know? What Saying when I'm when,
i'm old And and i'm old and and what? Wisdom
field how About that i'll JUST before i say dusty
and get in Trouble When i'm I'm when i'm. Wisdom
filled and this silver HERE that i play around with Is.
Actual silver you Know when I'm When I'm mike, SILVER'S
(36:43):
age i don't even Know How mike silver Is when i'm.
His age i'm just gonna like whisper off into the
into like. Discreet nothingness, he's, like man take off. With,
me man he got a, golden jack he was award winning,
or man whatever happened, to him. Fall off? Can't wait hell? That,
YOU yeah i. Appreciate that. Appreciate THAT but i appreciate you,
giving me, you know almost for forty five minutes of.
(37:05):
Your time thank you for tapping in. With us thank
you for giving us just a little segment of what
it's like to be an experience not only analysts, but
journalists but media personality. AS well i, APPRECIATE you i,
respect you and hopefully one day we'll work together again.
IN person i would.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Love that go Easy, On abe lucas and. The.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
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could care less about what the what the officer coordinator
has to Do because i'm trying. To win it's not,
About them it's about me and mine and we need.
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Of Cam jordan's Off the edge
Appreciate everybody tuning back here to my podcast Off the
Edge of Me. You know hem, I'm Jordan. I'm super
excited to introduce to my guests Mina Kimes, whose resume
speaks for herself. She talks football ESPN. She's the also
the Mina Kaimes featuring Lenny Show. She's also a twelve fan.
And you know who we're playing, you know, like, we're
playing the Seahawks. And I'm still not sure where this
(00:27):
twelfth man came from because technically all teams have twelfth
men in the NFL. But fine, we'll talk about it.
We'll dive in. Welcome Mina. I appreciate you for coming
to be a part of this. I do love talking
to analysts. Would like to be analyzed? Is that? Is
that how this works?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I don't like to be analyzed, but I'd like to
talk about the game. Nah.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
No, We're gonna deep dive into that. Shortly, it's time
for this week's Drive for Success Conversation presented by Toyota.
Let's go places. Mean, how old are you? How old
are you? How are you? Wow? The things the things
that we got a backmeddle from.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I'm old enough that I need you to keep playing
forever so that I actually have people moderately close to
my age in the league.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Oh no, no, no, I'm not doing this. The last time
we sat down was that two years ago.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
It's been a minute, Yeah, it had been.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
It had been too long, still going strong, you know,
fifteen years in you know, in my mind, I just
want to like set up a scene, like just think
fifteen Like what a what a time to be alive?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Thirty six? It active?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
You know who I was watching though this week took
me a second to get to his game. Old ass
kal kalaas Campbell. How is he still so damn good?
He is thirty nine years old and he is still wrecking.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
He's called game, Paul, game called game Cardinals. What what
do you need? You need this, Carolina? Come here, Bryce, y'all.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
He looked like a dad out there with SIUs Cretancy was.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Not ees descriptcy alone like players. They'd say he's six eight,
but he feels like six', ten you. Know and Then
Bryce young they say that he's five, ten but he
feels like they.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Lie but oh do you, know, wait do you know
the story of Being Bryce young and the size? Thing, No,
okay so you've been around. Me you, Know i'm like five,
seven little utter five, seven the tall lady ahead of the.
DRAFT a picture of me and him went viral BECAUSE
i was standing next to him AND i was wearing
heels but were the same. Size but everyone's, like, whoa
(02:29):
this kid is not five, Ten AND i was like, no, no,
no, no you, KNOW i just don't. Understand i'm were heels in.
This but he got so much because of this. Picture
So i've been feeling guilty about it ever.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Since, AH i don't know what that's on, him that's
not on. You you, know you can't help. It you
were out there trying to pop the calf, muscles you,
know you were trying to get the dress. Going you
had the heels, all you, know you had your tee's.
Up he probably should have. Done you. Know he's the
little platform, shoes like The Versace mints shoes that got
like the super thick.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Soul yeah you, lift you know.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
LIFT i wouldn't, know you, Know i'm just a slight six.'
four i'm just thinking about that Name, class.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Campbell right like. You're huge he's a different kind, Of
huge like he's even huge FOR an. NFL player i
don't think people understand THAT because i mean person to get, it.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Place walks body like that's A, big yep that's a.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Big, man yeah that's a large even.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Right this like year fifteen sounds crazy, to Me but i'm, just,
thinking like, YOU know i FEEL like i want to
set up a story because like, year fifteen where were you?
AT fifteen i Think Young mena kimes was driving down
the Road, in, arizona, right yeah where, you resided because we're,
you Know we're arizona phone ye in The family's dodge
caravan or what she called the. Ugly, Box, yeah taylor
(03:51):
you know the ugly green box that smelled like. Shin
Guards young meta's dad is in the. Passionate Seat young
mena decides to turn on the radio and one comes
out doing IT BY Lll. COUJ classic i just want,
to know, you know what in the world goes through
your mind when the song.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Comes on i'm gonna crash this CAR because i can't
make eye contact with my dad. While this that's gotta
be LIKE if i was drafting songs that you don't
want to listen to in the presence of. Your parents
that's gotta be like number one draft pick.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
FOR me I was i was doing it and doing
it and doing, it well and, you was.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
You know trying to look at, your parents your dad
next to you when that song. Comes on, OH ah
I think i was Driving on, chandler though Like To Chandler.
Fashion square you Know About Chandler.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Fashion, square absolutely and then then, you know m h,
we saw, we saw, you know so we saw a
nice little post. ABOUT it i, was like doing my
research for. THIS interview i saw a nice LIT plus, i,
said wait how was this public? Information already?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
You know and then when, you're old just everything's out.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
There already first, first accident. ONLY accident.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I got hit, once parked so that one wasn't. My, fault,
Okay yeah i'm a.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Good, DRIVER Hey i I've been i've. Been hit what
was that? Last week two? Weeks ago lady was at
the stop sign and just like backs UP and i
huffed the horn and she just kept, backing UP and i,
was like what are we? Doing here she got out and, was,
Like oh, i'm SORRY and i, WAS like i didn't.
See YOU and i, was like how did you not
see this big old? Green truck so, you like, No,
(05:28):
doubt no she was. OLD old i think she Just,
Couldn't YEAH and i was, LIKE no i, WAS like i,
WAS like i looked at. MY car i looked at.
Her car, WAS like i, was like my car. Is
good your car needs? Some work like you taped my
my Tire about i'm big, boy status, you know big
man blast toys in this big old in this big
old truck. Flas toys, but anyways you know which this
(05:50):
sort of leads, you into how has it been working OVER?
At espn how? Is that?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
It's, great man we're YOUR Six nfl live since they
put the, Band together you've. Come on, you know you
know everybody on. OUR show i, feel like You, know
marcus You, know dan you KNOW, r c you know, The, Crew.
Laura RUTLANE it's i think best football.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Show around Why does laura get the only one with the?
Last name You, know dan you know you KNOW. R
c and. IT'S okay i suit you did their. GIRL
power i.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Love her she's such a. Good host, but yeah the show.
IS awesome, i mean, you know we cut up. Every
day we, talked football, just football and we like it
never gets old, for me never.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Gets, old absolutely the congomerate THAT is espn that just
ABSORBED With nfl network for the, most part lowly left
like two programs out there is there effects There are
can we Move to? La?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Now, UH well i LIVE In la SO hopefully i
think that's gonna take. A second hopefully by the time
that you are out and working for whatever media entity
you decide to, work for you'll be part of.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
THE team i, was like, you know then then we'll
just have to pop off our.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Own show, you, know yeah we gotta win The cam juring.
Bidding war when we.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Don't get, me excited, You know i'm on. YOUR corner,
i mean, you know for you to have the career
that you've had, So far like it's it's hard like
this women in especially, About football guys go hard about
this and yeah you stand tall and you take a
brace of Stances and, i'm, Like, Yeah mina, i'm, like yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
People be hard on, the internet but players, are cool like,
Good conversations like THE people i work with. Are awesome
so the people, who matter or at least whose opinions
you want to listen to that there have always been.
Super supportive it's all about.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
The foundation it's all about the foundation and any good
in any, good organization it's about the, locker room. The
foundation the people need to rely on. Your, crew, yeah
absolutely just like you know my team and how we're
Going to but our locker room vibes. Are, vibrant hi
everybody's like pushing each, other, like, hey bro like we're
going to start, more meetings, All right like nobody's, nobody's like,
(07:59):
oh no, LIKE shoulder i. Got rehab, everybody's like, all
right whatever, it, Takes BRO like, o two we're on the.
Same page kellen has been, so like, come, in hey
this is what we need to do. To win we
have to stop and get. These penalties he's coming and
already giving us like, the sauce The, the hey this
is what we could. Have been have we limited these
three or four penalties that stop our, you know our
(08:20):
drives from. Extending out, you know it's got to stop
being stop stop self. INFLICTING pains, I.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Now i had a real chance to win this last
week and the week. Before, that, gosh yeah why you're getting, you,
KNOW no.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I lost. I, LOST yeah i lost my voice while playing.
The game, You know. I'm talking i'm talking. Moucho, Though
YEAH like i just the vibes that. YOU feel i
know that we've got like a young team and people
put out there like you're rebuilding. Or whatever This, is no,
we're building just like every team does when they put
together fifty three. Man roster but you. Can't rebuild you Still, Have,
Tomorrow Davis, Pete, Warner Me, Carl Carl, Chase young you've got,
(08:59):
You Know, brian razi who's been stellar in his first. Three,
years like there's. Not rebuilding we're not shipping, Players off
we're literally building. Talent within You draft tyler shove'spens. Around,
there anyways enough. About me we're not here, For me
we're here. FOR you. A, Mina yeah i'm clearly it's
clearly feeling some type of way And like, i'm like
we're going. To win we Got to seattle coming up.
(09:19):
This week it is what?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
It?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Is? What what what are your thoughts on this new,
media area because Like Now i'm i'm sort of like
dipping my toe IN and i can have you on.
The show we could. Talk football, You Know, micah parsons
they've been streaming from the last couple. Of Years von miller, of,
course yeah, you Know The kelsey brothers and their garage
beer and the garage show and Their H Taylor swift,
cooucher matts like how is the media? SPACE now i.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Love hearing, from like especially active players what you're talking,
about right not just retired guys obviously love hearing and
learning more about, their PERSONALITY but i just love hearing
your insights into like the week to week what's going
on in. The games because we on, the outside especially
with like defensive responsibilities and, play calling we do our
best to say what we think is happening and one
(10:06):
of the strengths and. The weaknesses but it's so different
when you're actually inside and you know what the plan
is going and you know on a given play who's
executing and. Who's failing so from, MY perspective i love.
HEARING it i love that level, of DETAIL and i
love the, Respect TOO like i love hearing you guys
talk about your opponents and talk about who scares you on,
that team what is that play called they're, good at
(10:26):
what gave? Us trouble that's the KIND of i love hearing.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
From you, No doubt i'm scared of Nobody unless. I'm
dropping and there was one play this PAST game i
DROPPED and, I like i. Had, it, YEAH yeah i
LOOK he i, WAS like i, was, like oh this
is This is christian McCaffery to. The FLAT but i
also have to be inside of his. Tight END and i,
was like, All right i'm shooting. My shot and Then.
IMPASSED christian i, was, Like man i'm trying to knock
(10:51):
a third out.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
The stand, you, Know now christian McCaffrey is over one
against you AND COVERAGE i i he.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
DEFINITELY like i, Was like i'm making the. TOP off i.
Don't care i'm shooting. My shot Anytime a cawbert can
get a get ahead of a, shaking tree you gotta.
Take advantage but, you know didn't get. THAT opportunity i was.
LIKE fine i, was like, you know that's when you hype.
Yourself up, you know you were scared to do that.
Checkdown anyways, you know but you just love love, to see,
you know just guys in the space being able to
(11:20):
be their. Own person, you know you gotta gotta gotta
love watching guys retired go on to be AN r
C or jill McCoy or, You Know lashawn. LASHAWN McCoy
a lot of McCoy's but just the. Easy transition you
see guys, you KNOW Like jj Watt From draft class,
Twenty Eleven. Cam newton, of course it's it seems like a,
(11:42):
you know it seems like a eclectic but very solid
error to be in.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Right now everyone's, different too even than guys. You mentioned
you got like the, hot, takers right but then you
got the more detail or into. Tape guys you got
guys who. Do both I'M so i can't wait to
see what kind of space you carve OUT because i
think you can do. It all, but, yeah everybody everybody
brings something different to, the.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Table, no doubt. No doubt i'll say at, this point,
you know what is what is it to have like
the players respect in this in? This FIELD because i mean, you're,
like oh we want to talk, to me and you're
always so gracious and like eloquent with your worries and
willing to like debate it out sometimes. With, ME oh i.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
APPRECIATE it i just think like if you put in
the work and you, actually watch shocked how many people
don't actually watch. THE game, i know you know this
is the last, Few years i'm sure how much people respond.
TO that i feel like, you know if, it's, LIKE
hey i saw, this happen these players, playing wow and
you guys are doing this MORE and i notice this
(12:47):
people respond. To that, You know it's like, any field
right if if somebody's willing to actually put in the time.
AND work i don't UNDERSTAND everything, i See but i'm gonna, ask,
questions right, You KNOW and i think that's part of.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
It, TOO yeah i mean there's nuances. Every defense even while,
Watching games, i'm, LIKE dang i wonder if that's is that?
Cover too is? That going is that press so the
d line actually has time to get to? The quarterback
or is this like what what Kind of i'm always
trying to figure out the packages because they're not, you
know you always have. These, days yeah. No doubt there's
a lot of a lot of, rotated pieces a lot of.
Covered disguises i'm loving how defenses are attacking offenses. Right,
(13:19):
now yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah it does feel like a, sea, change right like
like defense has kind of fought back over the last,
few years especially with like just the confusion that.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
You're SAYING but, I say i'll say yes and no
because in My mind i've always. Been biased SO all
i see. Is defenders, so like even even Like when
i've been an analyst and and done games FOR, The
xfl i'd still, be like and did you see this?
De tackle the way he? Stunted in that's the, Reason, why,
like yo but what about receiver of the?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Skinny, guys, okay okay but, So okay i'm gonna take
you to the game. A, second yeah if you're dialed
in on have you been Watching the seahawks? Defensive Line, Biron.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Murphy, Byron Murphy leo.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Williams might be one almost underay players in the entire.
Nfil opinion been for a, Long.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Time yeah been for a. Long time but Adding To,
marcus lawrence he's a little.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah after giving you your, cow guy, The business uh
this is that this, last week the stunts they were
running were, just.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
KILLING right i. GOT it i got like the sackril
and SO all i get to do Is like, I'm like, i'm,
like oh who got sacks? This week and, then like,
all right is the Team that i'm about to play
on the? Sack REEL so i like the low lights
of their team, like that, love It and I'm like,
I'm watching, i'm watching. You Know lennard williams go Off and, i'm,
like yo like he's still like he's got a little bit,
of everything a little bit for nett and a lot.
(14:40):
Of power, you know he's closer off the line and
yet like you sort of can't get away. From him
and it's fun. To watch and the like, you said
a lot of stunts, being happening a lot of, interior
stuts and then of course like they sort of like
after it's like, inside out which is NOT how i.
PREFER things i prefer we stunt on, the outside then.
Like inside so now we get our one. On ones
(15:02):
but it's like the way that, they're working they're always,
it's like, all right here's a. Straight rush now you get.
Two games here's a. Straight rush oh you think the, Game's, coming, no,
no no it's it's now in. Tier game, you're like
it's it's. IT'S lovely i.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Like it you Watch the bucks game and you watch
the box. Absolutely, Not okay well they were running, All
Yeah levante david running a COFFEEHOUSE stunt o That There's,
levante David The Ageless.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
La davis, I'll say i'll say the way he goes sidelight,
The sideline, i'll say, add ageless so he's he's.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
In there bulls was going crazy On that texans offensive
line with some of the crazy pressures that they're.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Big v bay in, the middle like that's just a.
Large human, RUH man i mean nobody is born, six
five three hundred. And whatever you're going to put that
label on him at and moving the way Him And dexter.
Lawrence massives like there's big people and then there's massoles
and there they. Fit them, you Know The helloa. Negatta effect.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
SPECIAL guys i love it when They drop They Dropped
vita bean to cover just my. Favorite thing it's like
an eclipse of. The sun like imagine being quarterback and
you're all of a sudden you look out can and he's.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Not, wearing gloves but he's covering, yard line the, yard line.
No doubt, oh no let me ask you this out
of all the things, you SAY because, i mean you
don't you're not afraid to take. A stance have you
ever had a, player contact like a player be actually
upset about something? You said i'm, Sure impossible like have
they ever been confronted? About it like you really have
(16:39):
me twisted when you said the mina COACHES.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
And. Gms, Yes, Player no i've never had a PLAYER
because i really try not to, be disrespectful Even if
i'm saying a player is. NOT playing i REALLY especially
i think as someone who didn't play, THE game i
FEEL like i have an extra burden to kind. Of
Be if i'm going to, be critical it has to
be like factual and based, on study but. Not personal
(17:06):
AND so I guess, i, SAID yeah i Don't think
i've ever actually had that Happen. With claire it's always been,
pretty congenial.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
All Right if i'm in the league, next year is,
Just no i'm creating beef. Between us, i'm, like, yo
yo you said YOU said i. Was old. REMEMBER that.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Don't know, I'm sorry, i'm yeah me and you were
starting To be, you're like You're like kim the kid
behind the kid behind you was born in two thousand,
and Two and, I'm.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
CRAZY yeah i envy you having to work with.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
These. ZOOMERS man i, love them, you KNOW like i call.
Them soft, i'm like that's my little my little, soft errors,
you know like anything after like, ninety six these two
thousand and two's, and, Like hey, I'M like i actually
take that with, pride NOW like, I rather i'd rather BE.
O g But as, I'm looking, i'm, like ell you
were born in two thousand. And, five kid.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
That's crazy two thousand, And four like that's.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Not right two thousand. And four, i'm like, oh man like,
Oh no like now you get ankle sprains and you're out.
For weeks you'll get you'll get a cash strain and
be out for. A month, like no you get your like,
You know i'm right on. A cuff you get that,
era like, oh man you got an ac spraying or
just look. At it you pop. That suckerna you go
back and. Play football THAT'S why i tell, my son go.
(18:16):
Play basketball you can spray out for. Six weeks like.
THAT'S fine i, was like, but me like you break a,
real no you finish. The game we're here To. Be
warriors but.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
It's, quarterbacks man, right now they're all going down.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Quarterbacks and martsis is. Close thing we got to real,
basketball players, you, know like, oh no they, spraying something
they're out for. Three weeks it's we, don't know it's
a game. Time decision, but YEAH what i need to?
HIT somebody i. Need it but, Apparently yeah i'm a.
Little different at what point during the season do you
get a true sense of how good team or bad
(18:48):
a team. It is that's a.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Good question it's so it's it's so it takes at least.
A month i THINK before i FEEL like i gotta handle.
On teams it's so, important, too right Because like detroit
week one and gets Stopped By green bay and everybody's
panicking and oh, my god they lost. The coordinators they
can't run, the Football and i'm, Watching that, i'm, thinking
man this pack of defense was already good and they
(19:11):
just Dropped a ferrari on the field Like maybe, detroit's
fine and they just ran into a, buzzsaw with by,
the way a defensive player who Was the queenland chessboard
who they barely got time to. Plan for and then
we see. Week, Two okay detroit Goes Against green Bay
And Eric toroa chicago and they look Just. Like, Detroit
right so you need a. Few weeks you guys see
different levels of competition both sides of. THE ball i
(19:35):
think with, young players young quarterbacks, in particular you need
some time new coaching staffs. In PLACE so i would
say at least. A month what about from, YOUR perspective.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I mean i'd never. REALLY know i don't know Until
about i'm gonna say, two months but really it's probably.
Six weeks, you know like after that, week six you
know sort of where this locker room. Is going and
it's because at WEEK four i feel like you could do,
a cling like, You, can hey this where we're at
this if you wouldn't going to be you could start
(20:07):
changing your fate in. Week FOUR and i have a
firm believer. Ever SINCE like i saw Was It aaron
rodgers And the packers go oh and four and then
have that deep playoff? Run, Relax yeah like it was like, it's, like,
hey man pop, your. Brakes relaxed we got this and
then turned it, up RIGHT and i, was like man, For,
Me Uh, SEAN payton i used, to, say like what?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Is?
Speaker 1 (20:27):
It uh you make your hay in the Month, of
november so that gives you about, two months, you know
like Right around november you better have your your screws. Tightened,
Up though so we're, owing too but in the next
four weeks we could easily be sitting three, and three
four and two whatever. That is if we're, owing six
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then we're gonna have to have a.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Coloring, change yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Things, Change, yeah yeah we're not going to think about
this BECAUSE all i know is going to be four,
and two Because that's i'm either Delusional or i'm. Just
Prophetic and. I'm loving. I'm loving i'm loving what. YOU
know i love WHAT the i love what our team has.
BEEN building i don't love the outcome of, the GAMES
but i love that the vibe in the locker room, is,
like well whatever it takes, to win and that's where
(21:13):
we're sort of. At, All, right so if you had
to write an essay about the first two weeks of,
the season on the entirety of, the season what would.
It be what would be? THE theme.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I would say teams that can run the football continue
to be the offenses that really, impressed me which is
A continuation i think of the last couple. Of years
REALLY when i see teams that are like really good
play action passing attacks And Like, green Bay, obviously philadelphia,
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YOU know i think IN, The afc Baltimore. And buffalo,
you Know obviously i'm, mutant quarterbacks but like there's there's
like a balance to their games that really has. Impressed
me so MAYBE that i, Would, say, also man the those, Top, Dudes,
lamar josh there's still the top Dudes right like, watching
(22:13):
them it's just, It's crazy like what do you think
what goes through? Your Head you're i'm sure You're watching sunday.
Night football watching these two aliens sent from. Other planets
it feels like they're playing a different sport, to, ME.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Really i mean, FOR me i FEEL like i see
different versions of People that i've, always played, you Know
Like josh allen, And ME like i always like throw
Out the andrew la comparison because he's like a, bigger
body likes, to run take, some risks like can lead.
The team and also at the, same time there's there's
some there's some places you could, take ADVANTAGE which i
(22:49):
hope to do so on the next, you know and
week what is it for After? After seattle but somebody
who's sort of a freak freak athlete that you just, you're,
Like yo i'm trying to get a hit. On them
and when you, do hit you got to bring everything
because he's big enough. To sustain then You Got, lamar
jackson which, is like, oh man like we haven't Seen
any we'll never See Another. Mike Vick, but MIKE but
I Mean lamar jackson is. More efficient he's, he's faster
(23:12):
he might be like a. Bigger arm, he has he's
got some wherewithal like he has the head on. His
shoulder that the sex defenses is. The upgrade and then,
of course, you know like you, look around, you're, like
man like these are some. Talented cats You Got pat,
Mahomes right he's like like the Upgrade To matt stafford is?
Speaker 2 (23:35):
That yeah, You know, like yeah That's what.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I'm saying like he's got he's got all the throw he,
can make all the throws, he's falling he can make
one with his left hand and. Back Hand like so
it's quarterbacks that we've seen like just evolution of, the
game like they're always, getting. FASTER stronger, i missed, YOU
know i missed the statue quarterbacks put him in the
pocket and they. DON'T move i love those one to make,
(24:00):
bad DECISIONS like i love the guys that want to
pat the Ball please Mar.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
And josh they don't. Take sacks it's, like yeah it's
and they don't turn the ball LIKE they i, don't
know and it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
To me lamar is on a. CRAZY streak i saw
something like his last twenty game stat or something, like
THAT and i, was, like okay we. Get It And
josh allen of course has been has been locked in and, you're,
like okay like, all right like we're in this era right.
Of course You Got pat, mahome boy who's again like he,
loses one like will he lose another? This year like
(24:36):
if he, loses one like in, My Mind pat mahomes
doesn't know how to. Lose period. Hm hmm, you know
into the into, The chat jalen hurts and everybody has
him underrated for some, odd reason like bro just Won A?
Super bowl what are? We doing.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
M hmmmm so uh where We're Putting sam darnold into?
The mix he's your Next.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Mhm. KLINKBIAC yeah i mean that that's in the realm of,
you know on the cusps of what is he things
that we've we've always, been asking, You know and when
he Was in minnesota you saw shining moments and at
the same time, you're like, all right see what? Is
it what is he on the tier? Of great is
(25:15):
he on the tier?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
OF good i think they'd like him to not have
to be great.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Or exceptional i'm okay with him just. Being, unexceptional, like well,
you know.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
You know that they want to get and they want
to put a fullback on. The field they want to
run that wide zone. Rushing attack they want to reaction off.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Of it a lot of a lot, of trickery, you
know a lot of motions. Into aus they're trying to
they're trying to make the defense think and overthink instead
of having to. Simplify, IT luckily I saw kubiak a
part Of the saints all, last year so like sort
of got sort of got familiar with. The motions you
can't ever get used to all these, random, shifts motions whatever,
(25:55):
it is but, you get, you know, you get you.
GET familiar i can't, say comfortable because it's always gonna.
Be uncomfortable we've GOT a yde receiver zooming in and
stopping in come try to hinge BLOCK of dn or
a tight end who's like about to bump but doesn't
bump because he's getting out for a. Quick, route yeah
there's always ways to. Dissect THINGS and i, think, That
Uh clint kubiak is, You, Know, Cliff, Cliff cliff He's.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
A clint there's like A Cliff. A clint there's too many.
Of them there's.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
So Many clint kubiak is a guy that knows how to.
Utilize weapons seattle. Has those i'm not even gonna Try just,
Nit's name so there. WE go i just FEEL but
I think i think with the weapons, of hand we're
we're gonna have to be, you know we're gonna have
to press forward on. That one what is? It like
(26:41):
what what is it that you? See from, oh yeah
as an enadlyst From. From seattle we talked about the,
defensive line but offensive.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Were, SPEAKING yeah i think that this is a this
is a team that's led by. The, defense so, you
know we talk. About that but from the, OFFENSE perspective
i think they want to do exactly what we. Just described,
you know it's kind of, a, Throwback right it's like
you guys Just Played. San francisco it's kind Of Like
san francisco a couple of years ago as Opposed To
san francisco now in terms of wanting the quarterback to
(27:10):
be under center at, the zone running the play action
off of that and the, heavy groupings and they want
to take shots off. Of that they want to get
mismatches they want, to, you GUYS usually i feel like
match heavy groupings. With bass you leave your linebackers on,
the field but they like to throw, on them so
they'd like to attack them with the. Tight ends he
wants to take pressure Off Of. Sam donald this is
(27:32):
not an offense where they're going To Put san donald
on the gun and ask him to just, you know
spread things out. And cook he wants to make a
quarterback friendly System. For donald question is? Just one is
the offensive line? Good Enough are they're better suited to
the zone? Running game? For sure but you know they've
had their ups, and downs you, know that and Then
(27:53):
can donald execute upon. Those opportunities there's a bit of
a mixed bag thus far, this season.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Right RIGHT and i hope it's a. Mixed BAG and
i NEED all i need all the GOODIE bags i,
can get especially. This game you know which player have
you been pleasantly surprised with after the first? Two weeks
and why.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Oh that would be more defensive for me? Than offensive who.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Said it had to? BE offense i prefer a, Defensive
player i'll.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Tell You Josh joe joe be The second he's become
a starting corner, for them it's been pretty damn because
they Didn't Have, devin witherspoon he's their. Best corner in this,
last game he was pretty. DAMN good i thought in this,
Last Game, derek hall that's a name to watch. At
edge nobody Knows Who derek. Hall is he never gets.
Talked about They, got mafe They, got lawrence They have
(28:46):
chennanosu coming back from. The INJURY but I Thought. DEREK
hall i think he was a second round draft pick
a few. Years ago he was exceptional this. Last week
so you go.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Back Watched to, Seattle then.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
OH yeah i thought you were asking me about.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
You, guys, NO no i, want no not, JUST me
i want the. Entire league, oh okay?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Surprised you okays like to say something About. The saints i'm,
TELLING you I Think spencer bradlers played well these first.
Two weeks, i'm like film, Doesn't lie film, doesn't lie
and no one talks. ABOUT him i don't think anyone who.
WATCHES it i think he has really improved upon. Last,
year obviously last year he was pretty, tough circumstances right
(29:25):
with the state of the offensive line and.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
The.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Receiver, room YEAH but i think he is he's got
like really great arm talent and he really, flashes it
and he's. GOT mobility i think his decision making. Is
improved so that GUY who i think just does a
little bit more credit around. The league m, let's see
there's all kinds, of young fun players in. YOUR division,
(29:53):
I thought i'm just watching. The bug you don't want
to pick any. Division rivals, But it mom's not A Can.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Atlanta falcon i'm not going to you.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
On it, you Know catl aana might have gotten a
little bit of a pass rush for the first time in.
FIFTEEN years, I saw, I saw, god knows they've, tried.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Right, You're in, you're out and they fail. EVERY time i. Love, it, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Sorry bucks wise the, two backs it's Not. Just irving i've,
seen this watch the, last night really good back to that,
run game that duo counter, run games. Really good.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Way one in the, entire, league know not not one on. Every,
Team okay.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I'M sorry i should FEEL like i should.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Pick a who you getting? It to?
Speaker 2 (30:40):
ONE player i got a PICKED who i think is
underrated and maybe deserves. More shine hm.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Hm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Trying to think there's so many players it's hard to pick.
Just one i'm, going like team, by team, oh man
maybe he's gotten a lot more. Attention out but the
tight End in green Bit Good Lord. Tucker, crack yeah
he's like a throwback tight, End too like he's like knocking.
Dudes around he's blocking his, ass off and then he
can also get explosive. FOR them i think he's really.
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Really good you.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Love it we love a throwback, tight end one that
can block and go and go get, a catch, you
know maybe end up as a six time pro Bowler
of vikings all, time great Maybe Like, steve jordan. Who,
knows oh, But, anyways uh we got to have my
shambles's plug. IN there i feel Like If shannon sharp
can propel his brother to get Into the Hall, Of
(31:33):
fame i'm gonna be On This Steve steve jordan train
tough for the next. Ten years we're. In there we're
going gotta get in. THERE first i gotta get.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
In.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
There, Yeah, Absolutely oh. I'm dude absolutely don't maybe pan
up and show you my dad's jersey. Somewhre running oh
it's right somewhere in that. Bottom corner. All right we'll
go to the next segments called on side or. Off
sides i'll give you. Three questions, you'll say whether you're onside? Or,
OFFSIDE offside i mean. You're ford offside means you're. Against
(32:04):
it Lamar Is lamar jackson the best quarterback IN. The nfl.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
On side it's so close with Him And josh like,
to me they are just neck, and NECK and i.
Hate that it's like become a war now IN the
nfl fans between the two of THEM because i just
they're so both. SO good i know that's a, cop
Out but i'll. SAY onside i voted for HIM. For.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Mvp Uh Should joe burrow play again? This, season oh
that's a.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Good one that's a.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Good one just just got it noticed that he's not
gonna make it, turf tow turfo.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
TURF tow, I know i know what. You're thinking that's
offside for me because they're NOT gonna i FEEL like i.
Don't HEAR what i don't want to see is him
running back. LIKE hurting i that would be. A, mistake
Yeah but bengals are what? To, It, no yeah that's probably. Gonna,
Change yeah well?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
What if? What if later down there they're sitting There nine.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
So the next, FEW games i Get, the Vikes, the Broncos,
the Lions. The packers it's. Gonna get it's. Gonna Get, For, ROCKY.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah i Need a joe. You got you Still Got
trey henderson out their past person his.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Butt off yeah for, a teammate.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Young one chamar just, got, hurt right and we'll see.
What happens but by, the way, all right on sides are.
Off Sides the chiefs will make.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
The playoffs, ON side i think they'll still.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Make, It yeah mahmes is owned too for the first time.
His career crazy don't but they Doubt. The saints that's
four shop bolts in. Six, YEARS okay, i Understand but
i'm that's how MUCH faith i got In. The saints uh?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
All?
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Right perfect That was that? Was THAT and i just
really have like one or two. More questions we can wrap.
THIS up i. Appreciate you oh how much do You
miss do you actually miss writing? Full time is that?
A thing would you? Rather be would you rather be
in front of the camera or at a? DESK writing
(34:11):
i do not miss writing.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Full time. It's hard that's a hard job, these, days
buddy nobody. Reads anymore.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
That's so. Not, TRUE yeah i WOULD say i got
all the notifications for the manga that's about, to DROP
and i read.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Every, chapter okay well MAYBE if i was. Writing, MANGA yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I love i love a. Good force what stock is
about to? BE hot i like the idea of, making money,
you know like you get. Me there, but yeah in terms,
of Games and i'd rather watch it because, You know i'm.
IN it i FEEL like i know. These people, I'm
like i'm getting the inside scoop on how to. Beat
them writing doesn't do. Me justice, but anyways, all right
so you don't miss writing. FULL time i, could have,
(34:56):
YOU know i figured you were an award winning journalist
and it might be like the true essence of sports. Writing.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Sports right it got hard near the, end TOO because
i was like a lot of it was just trying to,
get interviews and, you know you.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Had, a book your.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Own, talent no we had people who helped, with that
but it was. Always HARD now i just show UP
and i give. Hot, takes mmm. Hot takes, you.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Know they're usually they're, usually solidified. Factual takes if there coming,
FROM you i almost, Trust that.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
THANK you i. Appreciate it they're definitely not.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
That hot how much do you think about what the
next evolution of your meta career will. Look like.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Very, Little yeah i'm like a big just look where
my feet are and focus on that kind Of person
LIKE all i care about, is like just let me
get better at The thing i'm doing rather than the.
Next thing that's just kind of the way my.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Mind, works, okay honestly you say. VERY little i thought
you were about to be like me. One day one
day you can, be, LIKE man. I can't jordan was
just on and then what happened to? That guy i'm
gonna be somewhere in the and Like mikon o's like
A beautiful, caribbean island and, you know kids are going to,
be grown so like maybe they, come visit maybe. They
(36:13):
Don't and i'm, just like what do? YOU do i live,
over THERE.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
And i, don't THINK so i don't think to Disappear when.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
I'm, fifty five you know? What Saying when I'm when,
i'm old And and i'm old and and what? Wisdom
field how About that i'll JUST before i say dusty
and get in Trouble When i'm I'm when i'm. Wisdom
filled and this silver HERE that i play around with Is.
Actual silver you Know when I'm When I'm mike, SILVER'S
(36:43):
age i don't even Know How mike silver Is when i'm.
His age i'm just gonna like whisper off into the
into like. Discreet nothingness, he's, like man take off. With,
me man he got a, golden jack he was award winning,
or man whatever happened, to him. Fall off? Can't wait hell? That,
YOU yeah i. Appreciate that. Appreciate THAT but i appreciate you,
giving me, you know almost for forty five minutes of.
(37:05):
Your time thank you for tapping in. With us thank
you for giving us just a little segment of what
it's like to be an experience not only analysts, but
journalists but media personality. AS well i, APPRECIATE you i,
respect you and hopefully one day we'll work together again.
IN person i would.
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Love that go Easy, On abe lucas and. The.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
BOYS man i keep office alignment, as. NAMELESS faceless i
could care less about what the what the officer coordinator
has to Do because i'm trying. To win it's not,
About them it's about me and mine and we need.
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