September 14, 2023 • 49 mins
On today’s episode of The NFL Report, Steve Wyche & James Palmer discuss several key Week 2 matchups – KC-JAX, BAL-CIN, and NYJ-DAL. We’ll talk to Panthers offensive coordinator Thomas Brown, the man coaching up the No. 1 overall pick QB Bryce Young. NFL Media analyst Brian Baldinger joins us to tell you why Tyreek Hill won't have another 200 yard game this week against the Patriots, and why the Packers are in good hands with QB Jordan Love. Stacey Dales details what it’s like to cover Aaron Rodgers over the years. Speaking of Rodgers, Mike Garafolo and Judy Battista take you behind the scenes of being there when Rodgers suffered his season-ending Achilles injury. Plus, James and Steve go in depth on the grass vs. turf debate happening around the league.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
All right, pencils down, heads up, Steve, It's time for
the NFL Report.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Steve White, James Palmer with you, and we have the
man Steve who.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Was spending every waking hour with the number one overall pick,
Bryce Young. That's Panthers offensive coordinator Thomas Brown gonna join
the show for an exclusive interview. Just wait, do you
hear what he asked to say about about the number
one pick?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I get?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Just wait until you have.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I can't wait for it because I used to cover
Thomas and college when he was a running back at Georgia.
So I'm really excited about this. But Jay PMLO down
the dumps. You know, two days ago a water main breaks,
a waterminon breaks in the house, so I got a
whole room flooded. My wife's got her family up, My
wife D's got her family up from Jamaica, so we
got this whole room now that's flooded, waters everywhere. But
(00:51):
that's not why I'm really down on the dumps JP.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
It was the plumbing.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Duw.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Yeah, you know, they're like it's gonna cost you this much.
I felt like Vonte is perfect. When I got fined
by the NFL from my fifteenth hit for unnecessary roughness
and do you know how big that fine those fines are.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, that's from Owen lawns around the neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
That's where I'm right now.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
But look, we're also gonna have Brian Baldinger, and we
are gonna have all kinds of different angles on this
Aaron Rodgers subject, from how you know Aaron Rodgers history
to how it affects not only the Jets moving forward,
but at least one of their opponents.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
You're not gonna want to miss that. We've got Stacey.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
DL's, Brian Baldinger, Mike Grefolo, Judy Batista joining us JP
and first up, this is a game I don't think
either one of us can wait to see. Coming up,
we've got the Kansas City Chiefs coming off the l
to the Detroit Lions playing the Jacksonville Jaguars who win
the opener and James. This doesn't say anything about the Chiefs,
but the fact that we're talking about how they could
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open the season with back to back losses against the
Lions and Jags tells you the state of those teams
right now.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Steve, you've been down to the dumps too much, so
I'm not gonna go negative. I'm gonna swing it over
to Jacksonville and go positive for us here. Imagine what
this benchmark game could be for the Jacksonville Jaguars organization.
If they take down the defending Super Bowl champs in
Week two and this might happen. I think, Steve, because
of when this game is happening, it's early in the season.
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We know Chris Jones is back, we know he's been
doing two a days down.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
In Miami, but he's not Nick Bosa.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I'm curious how many snaps he can go and how
that affects them getting after Trevor Lawrence because there's some
issues injuries wise up front on that offensive line. Can
they still be explosive and they can put some points
on the board. And then on the other side, we
know Travis Kelce probably coming back for this game. I
was told when an injury happened, a one to two
week injury. Is he one hundred percent? This could be
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shaking up for a really good spot in the season
for Jacksonville to come away with a win. The closing
part of this, Steve, is closing out games. That's something
that the Jaguars know that the Chiefs are very good
at We know that Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid are
great in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
They get better as the game goes on.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
But talking to people in Jacksonville, they believe that's a
trait that they're developing as well. And if they're able
to compete in the fourth quarter and win a tight
game over the defending Super Bowl champs, a game that
they believe they should have won in the postseason, right
talk to Doug Peters in this offseason. He truly believes
they should have won that game in Arrowhead. This could
be a massive game for the organization, for the Jacksonville Jaguars,
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and they're treating it as such. It's a playoff atmosphere,
I'm told down there in.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Jacksonville, well as it should be.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Look Kevin Calvin Ridley and the way he performed in
his debut last week is great reason for that optimism.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
And the fact that he talked about that the.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Jags actually had the Chiefs on the ropes to some
degree in that playoff game last season, I mean that
says a lot about where they are. And I remember
this was the game when Patrick Mahomes first had that
got that high ankle. Spraint lingered all the way through
the Super Bowl, so that was part of it.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
But you brought up Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
He had fourteen catches and two touchdowns in that game.
He is that much of a difference make. But we'll
make a difference with this receiving corps that did not
play well without him in Week one? Or will arrest
of the guy step up to help booie Travis Kelsey,
Because all of a sudden, if Kelsey's not one hundred percent,
those guys aren't showing up that and we have to
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start to wonder if the Kansas City Chiefs have I
have some greater underlying issues.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
All Right, I'm really curious where Joan Taylor is going
to line up, Steve. I'm really I'm really curious how
far back he's.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Gonna going to left tackle. You were talking about depth
from the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
And guess what, I think Doug Peterson knows a thing
or two about about his former tackle.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Let's move to the game that I'm going to be Yeah,
and I think this is a great game. This is
Ravens at Bengals.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
And I had a chance to talk to a couple
players on the phone this week, had a chance to
talk to Tyler Boyd, who told me that, yes, that
is the worst he has ever seen Joe Burrow play.
But the interesting part Steven in our conversation is he said,
you know why he's so even keel all the time,
because he said, this week, nothing has faced him. He's
been the same guy each and every day. Bothered him
that he went out and threw for eighty two yards. Yes,
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he did to get a haircut. He said that was
partially because of the way he played, not entirely, but
he said, this is why he's wired this way. He
goes to Ohio State, my university, makes a terrible decision
and moves on from him.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
He transfers to LSU.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
And his point with this is he has had to
grind each in every spot he's been. Nothing's been handed
to him in any of the spots he's been, which
is an interesting thing to say for a former.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Number one overall pick.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
But he said that's why he has this mentality that
he can go out and bounce back from things because
of what's happened to him in his path getting to
the NFL and being the highest paid player in the
history of the league right now.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
JP, if we think he is not going to bounce back,
that we need to go get drug tested or something.
You know, I need to go have more pipes in
my house burst or something.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Because he's going to bounce back. He's gonna bounce back.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
The issue of this game is not going to be
Joe Burrow against This Ravens defense is down some dbs
right They've already had some injuries on their defense. The
issue is going to be Cincinnati's defense because no matter
what we want to say about this expanded Ravens offense,
they're still going to try.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
To run the ball. And Baltimore's offense.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Was not great in their opener against Houston. They barely
surpassed one hundred yards on the ground. Lamar Jackson was
a little bit here and there when it came to
the pass game.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
They've got some things to work out.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
But after seeing the Bengals surrender more than two hundred
rushing guards against the Browns and they really didn't adjust
to fix it.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Now, the Ravens they don't have JK.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Dobbins, you know, they don't have Nick Chubb that Cleveland did,
But that defense has got to button it up or else,
John Harbaugh, Todd Munket, and that that run offense is
going to continue to trying to pound the rock.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Steve.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I look at one word that sums up I think
this entire game, and that is communication, and that involves
the Ravens. What are the two position groups that need
the really the best amount of continuity communication within a game.
It's offensive line and it's the second death second right,
those are the two spots that need to continue to
talk to each other throughout a game.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
You mentioned it.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Marcus Williams, the leader of that secondary, most likely not
playing in this game, hasn't practiced all week with the
peck injury. Marlon Humphrey not back yet from the foot injury.
Down both those guys. Kyle Hamilton talked about it at
length this week about how communication is an issue back there. Yes,
they all play call of duty with one another. That
does happen in the secondary when they're having their downtime,
but on the field, having the proper amount of communication
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against these three dynamic wide receivers is important. And then
Ronnie Staley and Tyler Linderbaum, their center and their left
table have not practiced all week.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
The game on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
That's difficult upfront, when you're working in a new system
and just your second game with it. You want to
run the football, and we know DJ Reader and company
up front with Luena Romo can make some damage. Those
are the two spots I'm really keeping an eye on
in this game when I'm going to be there on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, I mean talking about interesting defenses.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
We saw the Dallas Cowboys put a forty long dunk
on the Giants in the open of Micah Parsons.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
At every level they dominated.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Well, guess what they've got Zach Wilson and the one
to o Jets this week. But on paper, it looks
like an absolute domination for this Cowboys, going up against
a quarterback who has still not found himself.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
He was Aaron Rodgers backup.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
But this is what we're gonna do because we're gonna
talk about Aaron Rodgers exclusively.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
But I'm gonna tell you how Aaron Rodgers injury affects
more than just the Jets.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Within minutes of him going down Monday night, you better
believe all the Cowboys coaches, analytics people, scouts, everybody had
to scrap their game plan for their defensive install against
Aaron Rodgers. Remember there are coaches on the Cowboy staff
who were with Mike McCarthy and the Packers that you
know how Aaron Rodgers operates, scrap.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
That get ready for Zach Wilson.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
So what do they have with Zach Wilson preseason tape
with him in the Daniel Hackett system. So they had
to go scour that and we know in the preseason
they don't do too much. They had to watch this
game again to see what worked for the Jets, and
then they had to also go back and maybe look
at some of Jack Wilson stuff that he did the
last couple of seasons when he didn't play well. You
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have your scouts going back look at their their reviews
out of him. But he was coming out of BYU.
So there's a lot of detail for the opponent this week,
the Dallas Cowboys that.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
They had to go to that they were not expecting
to go to. That's just another.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Trickle down aspect of Aaron Rodgers' injury JP.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And you have to think it's week two, right, So
some of this work is done by some people in
that building during the end of preseason.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I mean they were probably a weighs.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Down in terms of their preparation about where they were
with this and because of their understanding of Nathaniel Hackett
and the thunderstanding specifically of Aaron Rodgers, and I'd like
to talk about Rogers moving forward, and we're going to
talk back up quarterbacks and their importance with Damas Brown
coming up in his interview, because I think they have
an experience, very good one there in Carolina.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And so.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
There were questions Steve, going, all right, where do the
Jets go? Who should they bring in?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
The best quarterback if you ask around the league for
the Jets right now, is Zach Wilson because he has
an understanding of the system, and anybody you bring in
that has to learn that system and play x mentally
better than him probably doesn't really exist for your liking
or your ability to go and get that quarterback. What
I'm curious about is because these two have sparked up
a very good friendship throughout this training camp, and that's
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Aaron Rodgers and Zack Wilson. Is Rogers going to stick
around and work in the room with Zach Wilson and
Nathaniel Hackett and company and making sure this young quarterback
is set up to succeed the best he can. Now, again,
I should put this clearly, that is not Aaron Rodgers'
job right now. His job is to get healthy, and
his job is to rehab and go through all this.
But he has talked about how rejuvenated he has Ben
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Steve coming and wing with these guys, throwing with everybody
in the offseason and being around this young group. He
could do wonders for helping out Zach Wilson because he
knows this better than anybody else.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I'm curious to see what role he plays moving forwards.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
And this is why I'm so glad.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I asked scy Dale's on Rye Stacia, world class athlete and
Olympic basketball player. It seems like it's a fairly simple
ask of Aaron Rodgers. Hey, once you've had your surgery,
come back and help. But we don't know what Aaron
Rodgers is going to be going through. We don't know
what he could be dealing with. We've heard so many
athletes talk about maybe going into dark pockets during rehab.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
And things like that.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
So to say Aaron, you need to be there for him,
that's not necessarily as simplistic of an ask as it
could be.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
But I think your point of the fact that just
a few.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Months that he's had together with Zach Wilson, the relationship
that they've had, he might be able to have sprinkled
some of that magic faery dust on him that it
looks like he sprinkled for three seasons on Jordan Love
based on how Jordan Love came out of the gate
last week.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Man, I was talking to Tracy Wilson in Foxborough last Sunday.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
She goes, we have the Jets Cowboys. Can you believe it?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I can't remember last time we did a Jets game
for our big broadcast on CBS. Well and Zach Wilson
against the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Well, coming up, we.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Have the number one overall pick, Bryce Young's mentors sidekick,
the guy who was molding him, Thomas Brown, the offensive
coordinator for the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
This is going to be ridiculous. Stick with us on
the NFL Report.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
All right.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Now, we have a very very special guest and JP.
This is what we love, right We're bringing people insiders
and information that they're not going to get anywhere else.
And we got Panthers offensive coordinator Thomas Brown joining us here.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
On the NFL Report TV.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Let's go, let's go. Excited to be here.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
That's what I'm talking to. Man, you're looking good.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Hey, shit, hey, appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
You know for the folks who are listening on the podcast,
they want to see. But Thomas, he's got off the
shrugs machine. He's kind of jacked and swollen right now.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
In our shot, you only get one body of life, right,
got a maximize that take care of it, work out
every day.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah, they had to widen his shot to fit him
in there. We're scrunched on the sides. Make sure he
looks good in the middle.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Hey a Thomas, Just just for timeliness of this before
we get on to a couple of years ago, you
blew out your achilles tendon, you know, when you were
with the Rams.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
You're rolling around on the scooter and everything.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
What you look You're you're a former world class athlete,
NFL running back, college running back. But what is that
experience like and just kind of walk as quickly through
your rehab.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Yes, it was rough.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
So I would say I was going through a number
routine on the field, doing the individual drill.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
So every day we have.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
I would say twenty minutes of individual So I have
the running backs and quarterbacks going through ball handle and
so I'm just kind of making those guys react.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Off of me.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
And I make one step and I feel like that
somebody just threw a football at the back of my ankle.
So I turned around looking behind me try to see
the ball was on the ground. I realized there was
no ball there, so I tried to go take a
step and I just helped.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
My whole kind of ankle and foot drop.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
So I turned to Reggie Scott and Sam McVay was
kind of standing by each other, and said, I think
I just told my achilles, and so they thought I
was joking, but I was. I was very serious about
tarring the achilles, and so Reggie asked me, are you sure,
And I said, Reggie, I'm not a doctor, but I'm
pretty try. I know what happens, will goes in between
the same little spot, and it's missing right now.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
And so my first thought was.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
You know, can I get off the field and I
walk off the field, So I tried to. I did
walk myself to the training room, and so a number
of motions are going through.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
My brain, you know.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Luckily, for me in that position, I'm no longer playing,
so it won't affect that aspect of it. I can
imagine from a players standpoint, right how devastate it is
going to be when it comes to the initial injury
being out for the entire year, but thinking about just
the rehab process going back and kind of recovering from
the injury. And for myself, I mean, I'm a fairly
older dude now, I try to still be somewhat relatively young,
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but it took me a good, you know, eight to
nine months to get back to doing everything I want.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
You're like thirty, you know, you're younger than Rogers, Yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
So I mean I think being able to try to
build back and get back into one hundred percent shape
was was a tough challenge for me my life. But
it's different when it comes to being a washed up
coach versus being a player.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
And you're problem right now.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
But I'm kind of curious in this so when this happens,
and not just what we saw Monday night with Aaron Rodgers,
but in any instance where you know your starter goes down,
what's the first conversation on the sideline that you have
as a play caller, as an offensive coordinator, as a
part of the offensive staff. With that backup quarterback that's
going in what initially happens on the sideline right away, Well.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
The first thing for me is just trying.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
So it makes me ease his mind when it comes
to the moment of having a to come in that
top opportunity.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
I think every time you have a major injury on
the field, I think every player.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
Kind of has that that thought in the back of
their mind about some significant injury happening. So my role
is going to be a tight hole. All those guys
done as much as possible. All those guys will play
with a quiet in mind and kind of get those
guys rolling.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
I want to play starts.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
So Thomas, with that situation, you know, so we know
the big deal with Aaron Rodgers going to the Jets
the quarterback, you guys have a very capable backup and
Andy Dalton. I mean, right as we're looking around the NFL,
not every team is as fortunate as you to have
somebody like that. What about you guys in Carolina having
someone like Andy Dalton who's there just in case of
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a worst case scenario.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
I mean, I think just from the standpoint of what
you mentioned Steve about being worst case scenario, but I
think more importantly the everyday process of him being a
poor into Bryce from his experience right his exposure for
being in this league for a very long time, how
open Andy is, how he communicates in the media room,
but also given Bryce kind of just subtle tips and
sails on the football field, that was what his overall
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development is awesome for us.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
So he's been through a lot of games, Andy Dalton,
and he's watched the film the next day with coaching
staffs a lot. Bryce did that for the very first
time after your game on Sunday. If you could take
us Thomas into that room and kind of what that
first film session was like after Bryce's first game, what.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Went down in there.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
Well, first off, we're all very disappointing about the outcome
of the game. I think any time we lose a
football game, I've always been a very sole loser, my
mom reminds me from time to time, from the age
I was eight years old up until now. But I
think being able to build upon some of the positive
things we did offensively, but more particularly when it comes
to Bryce and his overall growth, and development. You look
at the tape and talk about the positive takeaways, you
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look at how you operate the system from a huddle standpoint,
but also the saline communication I thought was really good,
especially for.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
His first opportunity time being out.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
But what an opportunity to learn like first week one
have adversity, and what I love about adversity is the
opportunity to be able to take on the challenge to
learn and grow from it. And Bryce is is as
good as as I've been around when it comes to
taking on those challenges.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
So when you're when you're game planning, now now that
you've got a baseline right from the game against Atlanta,
now you go through the Saints on Monday night, I mean,
what is Bryce's approach? Because everything we saw in college
was Okay, let's go get it.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
We know we did wrong, let's go get it. Kind
of tell us what it's been like. Work with him.
Going into week.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Two, I'm in the exact same way. I think. One
of the things I love about Bryce is his overall
approach back.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
We were kind of going through the process of evaluating quarterbacks.
We're on a couple of planes start around the country
to interview quarterbacks, but also watch those guys throw in person.
And so I meet with all the quarterbacks and the
Maximus guys some similar questions, and one of the questions
I ask all the quarterbacks was just take me through. Okay,
the game is done it Saturday night. What's your weekly
process from the time of the game end to the
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next game. And so most quarterbacks had probably I would
say ten to fifteen minute response. Right, So we're seventeen
minutes into the and to Bryce answering the question, and
we're still on Tuesday morning, So I think being it
when it comped this overall development, he has a great approach,
a great process towards understanding how to move on past
the game, learn from those mistakes, but also build upon
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what he did well as well.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Also, well, Thomas, there was all of you guys on
that plane, on this offensive staff going around. So I
saw a bunch of you guys at Ohio State at CJ.
Shroud's pro day, and you guys were making the round.
With that said, all of these offensive minds you guys
have on this staff, how do you, I guess in
this process with a young quarterback, the number one overall
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pick is talented as Bryce is kind of divvy up
who does what? How does it get split way?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Is there a meeting.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Before, like, do you guys devise who handles what? How
does it operate within the staff when you're trying to
mold him early on?
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
The great thing about our setup is that we have
a great operation when it comes to delegating roles and responsibilities.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
I think sometimes when it comes to.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
Having so much, you know, whether the mental capacity or
experience in one room, depending on who you had, it
can become an issue. We do a great job when
it comes to always checking your ego at the door.
We're all about trying to find ways to figure out
what is right versus who is right. So I think
the collaboration process we have has been amazing.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
It's been awesome. I look forward to kind of building
that every day.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
And Thomas you talk about, you know, the collaboration forging
a identity. Right, you're a former running back, you've coach run.
What about the run game and how important that is.
It's not only helping Bryce develop, but you guys establishing
what type of character you're going to be Offensively?
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Yeah, So I mean we break down offensive identity. So
we talked about this from day one we got back
here in April when our players came in. We broke
it down to kind of three different categories, all right.
Number one was being the physical at every position, and
so you mentioned a running game. Everything starts with that
approach for us. One of the biggest positive takeaway from
our game is that the really good job of being
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aggressive attacking running back to the really good job when
it comes to running after running, make a contact after
the ball, kind of from a contact standpoint, fight infective
yards when it comes to the overall development of a
young quarterback, but also offensively in general, everything deals off
of that. You're talking about your play pass, your keepers,
your nakeds, and obviously drive back offense as well.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Tomas, does that playoff of what you?
Speaker 5 (20:56):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Obviously you look at what everybody else is doing, right,
and everybody kind of sees and steals from one another.
Is it looking at what is a trend in defensive
football in the NFL alters what you want to do
offensively or do you look more at at offensive football
around the NFL and then kind of build it off
that obvious it is off of your personnel but still,
what side of the ball do you look at more
to kind of build that identity what you said.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Last part, the most important thing is you kind of
already mentioned when it comes to understanding your personneling what
you guys do well offensively upfront, quarterback wise or skilled players.
But I mean to me, it's kind of a combination
of both. When you look at trends around the league
from an off of the standpoint defensively, you can get
certain ideas from there from the offensive perspective, but we
kind of hold true to our identity, our philosophy, trying
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to build upon every single week, but also doing a
great job of self scout. So once we have a game,
obviously kind of correcting those corrections, but what do we
put on tape? What can we build off of that
kind of our opponents is watching to kind of, you know,
make it more difficult for those guys to defend us
moving forward.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
And Thomas, we saw in preseason second half of games
you were calling the place. Frank Reicher said, at some point,
you guys are going to make the transition, whenever that
is this season, next season, whatever, You're gonna be.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
The play caller. How do you guys work with that.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
How has Frank work with you and when you coach
under Sean McVeigh and maybe teaching you some of the
things and taking your input on some things you guys
can forge when that transition takes place.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Well, one, I've always been a sponge, so have an
opportunity to, like you mentioned before, being in the environment
with so many great minds around us, but the kind
of one on one time with Frank every single day
we kind of put together that game plan and talk
about certain ideas.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Obviously winning on guy like coach call what as well,
who can kind of obviously.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Add advice from his vast experience from a behind the
scenes standpoint, But I think it's about the daily collaboration
and me understanding more about him and kind of vice
versa in combination, will putting out buzzing a pleasant in
the best spot to have success right we cand and
week out.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Tom, I'm fascinated by play callers. I love when guys
say there's so much in the zone. They're not even
looking at the sheet, right, They're just they're just calling it.
But everybody kind of has a different description of it.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Right. Some guys say it's a science. Some guys say
it's an art, some guys say it's a feel. How
would you describe play calling?
Speaker 6 (23:06):
I think the biggest part of it is about preparation,
you know, so obviously being able to have a fill
on game is important. Being able to adapt in the
just depending what the opponent is giving is going to
be a big part of you having success on game day.
But it's about what are you doing throughout the week
putting the game and putting the game on from a
game plan standpoint, how you bring it to life More importantly,
how you explain those details to your players, because all
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boils down to not how smart you claim to be
a want to be as a play caller, but how
smart are your players? What those guys can activate on
game day?
Speaker 4 (23:36):
All right, Thomas, let's take it back when we got
that number twenty on at Uga.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Okay, we're going back to running backs. All the conversation
is off season is our running backs are devalued. But
every week all I hear is how valuable the running
game is?
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Right, what is the difference between the value of running
backs and the value of the running game.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
Well, Steve, I'll say this, staying in the frustration the
round the league when it comes to some of these
elite players who will continued to produce on a consistent
basis and want to.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Be rewarded for it.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
But all can do is speak for us as from
an organization standpoint and our value.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
And I went off a guy like.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
Miles Sons, for example, who had great value for us,
and people may say from a market value standpoint it
was a little bit higher, but just as far as
how we want to be built identity wise, it was
a perfect fit for us when it comes to how
we're building your system, but also a great for rookie
quarterback as well.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Miles can do it all.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
We all know that he can do a lot of
different things as a running back Thomason And so last
one for me is you're going into your second game
with your quarterback. Everybody talks about adversity when things don't
go right for young quarterbacks. How do they bounce back?
How do they respond? What was your take on this week?
What may be instances if there is one that sticks
out to you most about Bryce where you said, oh okay.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
This is kind of different than this guy, Well.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
I think, to me is what I've seen every single
day and he stepped foot on in his organization. From
a practice standp went preparation wise, Pross.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
In the media room.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
I mean, he is calm, cool, collective.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
But one thing I did see that I love is
obviously from a game play standpoint, just to fire the
emotion of the theme and the solid when it comes
to making players, getting guys going, but obviously wanting to
have the ball in his hands when it counts the most,
so we can definitely build upon when it comes to
our overall operation.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Thomas Brown, offensive coordinator for the Carolina Panthers, thank you
so much. Now that you finished shruggs and shoulders, don't
forget leg Day, Thomas. Your gotta stay balanced, man.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Start every Monday with leg Day.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
The big farm, That's.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
What I'm talking about. Thomas, Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
Thank you for the time.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
He never misses his leg Dare.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
That's Brian Baldinger and he's gonna be here later and
tell us about Packers quarterback Jordan Love. The eye and
the sky don't lie, and neither is Brian Baldinger.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Welcome back to the NFL Report, and just like every Thursday,
we're joined by Brian, balding Er and Baldi. We love
that you get to listen to our interviews each and
every week.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
And Thomas Brown's breaking down play calling.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
I was in.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Foxborough last Sunday watching Brian Johnson go out there and
call plays for the first time in the NFL. I'm
fascinated by play calling, and I know you have an
interest in it too, just in the manner in which
it's done successfully.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Well.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Look, I mean if you look at like, why would
Brian Johnson change what change Psychin did last year with
Jalen Hurts, Like, you know, they're a deep shot team. Okay,
they were a quarterback. You know, you got to count
for him in a run game. They're a power run team.
Like they just do certain things that they're really good at.
And the Patriots do that. And the Patriots had a
(26:47):
good game plan. They were they played a lot of his own.
They clouded all their deep shots that Eagles didn't get
one play down the field the AJ Brown or to
Plant Smith, not one. They averaged five yards you know
an attempt like they should be up around eight yards
in a temp. All right, we're not getting carried away
with stats. But and then they played a five minute
defensive front with one linebacker, and they basically said, okay,
(27:09):
move us off the ball. And those all those mercenaries
up front that played Patriot football, they didn't get moved,
you know, they didn't get moved by Jordan Mulatta and
by Kelsey and Lane. Like they held their ground really well.
They shut down on what was a powerful running game
a week ago. I mean it was it was good
balance what the Patriots did defensively.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Hey, Baldy, the folks are listening to the podcast won't
be able to see it. But you got a pillow
behind you, man, are you like sleeping in the office there?
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Bro.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Every once in a while, the eyelid they get heavy
steams and they got a rest just before it, you know,
like in the fifteenth hours. Sometimes you need to sneak
right there. I see it, I see it. That's good
eyes right there by youth peper. Sometimes it was eyelands
get a little heavy, like even two fifth they keep
the eye open, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I mean, this is this is how dedicated you are, Baldy.
But you just talked about that Patrio's defense.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Well, this week they faced a buzz saw of an
offense with the Miami Dolphins. We saw them hang thirty
six on the Chargers. I mean, the passing game layered
all over the place. I know Mike mc daniels said
he wanted to run the ball more, but Jesus man,
it seemed like they were throwing the ball all the
time with routes that could not be denied.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
Well, look, I mean Tyreek had you know, one of
those days, okay, And I was just shocked that the
Chargers never adjusted like you got. Like I've seen Bill
Belichick play elite receivers and they will cloud them. I
don't care what the name of the back of the
jersey was. Could have been Chad Johnson back in the day.
You know, they had a cloud over the top. And
this throw right here by Tyreek, Like, where is the
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safety over the top on that at thirty five yard touchdown?
This game winner right here, you're gonna put Mike Davis
on him. There was nowhere else that to was going
but to Tyreek. And so like this the first play
the game, I don't know, they're in some kind of
a walk away with Khalil Mack. The safety wasn't sure
if they were going to clamp him in his own
like he.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Was just too wide open all day.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
And I just don't believe the Patriots will let that happen.
Like maybe Jalen Wide gets some you know, maybe the
running backs get a few more, but I don't think
Tyreek Hill is going to run wide open and open
freeways up there in Foxborough this week.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
There.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I'm curious, aboudy what on the other side of the
coin with the way Mike McDaniel does things in terms
of when he sees this Sunday and you want to
see what Bill Belichick's trying to take away early? What
does he do as an offensive mine to adjust to
to an experienced defensive caller like Bill Belichick.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
Well, there's you know, there's formations like how are they
playing informations James, I mean bunch formation. Are they manning
it or they's owning it? You know, there's so many
different factors that you're just sending indicators. You know, is
there gonna be a lot of more pre stat motion
this week? And how the Patriots handled that? They do
the Patriots disguise their motion and tell you that they're
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playing man and then play zone off of it. You know,
I thought it was interesting last week Eagles took a
deep shot to AJ Brown and you know it's a
classic to Jalen Hurst and A J. Brown, And there's
Gonzales and Maypou, two rookies that bracketed it. You couldn't
have walked through it on Friday afternoon any better than
they executed it. Mike wants to see that, like, are
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they going to bracket our deep shots? Are they going
to cloud it? And if they do, then the underneath
should work, should open? Are they gonna play zone? Are
they gonna mix it up? Are they playing half field
man Halffield zone? Like Mike's looking for all those indicators
and then for any indicator that he sees, He's got
a beater for it, you know, whether it's a man beater,
whether it's flooding the zone. But the good thing is
(30:51):
Tua was so clear in what he was looking at
last Sunday. And people can argue all they want about too.
If that guy going back to Alabama days is mechanically sound,
his feet gets set, and when his feet gets set,
like he makes one stick throw after another like right here,
like in stride, you're gonna get aldiac Like he is
(31:13):
a deadly accurate thrower and his deep ball, like you
can't throw it any better over the top. Now that's
the fourth corner right there.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
You know, the Chargers. Why not go after.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Hey, Baldy, speaking about mechanically sound and indicators, Let's go
to Jordan Love because for a couple of years we
heard there was no indication that he was gonna be
able to play.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Quarterback in this league.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
And from what we saw in the preseason and his debut,
he looks like he's going to be just fine.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
Well, I mean, just think about the receiving card he's
throwing a Jaden Reid their second round pick. Yeah, Romeo
Dobbs the second round you know, for a year or
two right now, that touched the floater to Romeo Dobbs.
All right, just a back shoulder fade in the corner
of the end zone. We've watched far do it for
fifteen years. We want Sharon Rodgers do it for fifteen years,
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and we might just watch Jordan Love Jeordan for fifty
because he threw it just the way both those.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Hall of famers threw it.
Speaker 7 (32:08):
Yeah, like it was he knew exactly where to put
that ball and let doms go get it, all right.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Baldy, that's really great stuff.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
We're gonna make a transition from Jordan Love to the
story of the week and Aaron Rodgers and Baldy we
will see you next Thursday. But here's Rogers post surgery
on IG. Thank you to every person that has reached out,
called Texas DM, connected to a friend, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Has met a ton to me and I'll try to
get back to all of you soon.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
I'm completely heartbroken and moving through all the emotions, but
deeply touched and humbled by the support and love. Please
keep me in your thoughts and prayers. I begin the
healing process today. The night is darkest before the dawn,
and I shall rise yet again proud of my guys.
One and oh, so Aaron Rodgers does not sound like
his career is gonna.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Be ending getting carted off of a field.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
And now we bring in Stacy Dale's who out of
all the people in NFL media staff, I spent the
most time around Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
But Sat, I want to get this from your perspective again.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
You're your Olympic basketball player, you are a world class
athlete hooper at Oklahoma. An injury like this to someone
like Aaron Rodgers, who again you spent years around at
thirty nine, the coping mechanisms he might have to put
in place or whatever, Like, what can you tell us
about maybe what he's going to have to deal with here?
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yeah, no question.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Good to be with you guys.
Speaker 8 (33:31):
And I do have a pillow in the background.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Like Baldy and a dog.
Speaker 8 (33:36):
I see with Aaron Rodgers, it was time for him
to move on, right, And you just spoke with Baldy
about Jordan Love and just how efficient he was, and
they've really given him the keys to the to the
jeep if you will. I mean in Green Bay, and
there's got to be something about the water in Green
Bay when you come out and have a performance like that.
(33:57):
But I would just classify this as traumatizing, and Jeff Collette,
the producer, could probably attest as a Packers fan like
traumatizing and devastating for any player to suffer an injury
in the first game, but for it to be Aaron Rodgers,
who will be a first ballot as we all know.
And I can't recall like you and I spoke Steve
(34:18):
this week on the phone, and I just can't recall
a player of this magnitude in Week one, suffering such
a distinct injury, it's and then the questions sort of prevail,
like is this going to be the end of his career?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
We were told.
Speaker 8 (34:34):
Basically in that post that he gave us all on Instagram. No,
and then Nathaniel Hackett spoke today as well about the
fact that they fully believe, at least there in the
Jets building, that he's going to come back. And that's
going to be I think the most interesting thing because
he's played their injuries in his career. This is achilles injury.
It's unlike you know, other injuries, and it takes a
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long time after the surgery to heal and to really
get back your feet again, if you will. But yeah,
it's devastating. It's traumatizing for the team, and I think
we've all learned that given some of the comments and
interviews done this week.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Stasey, I'm curious about the man that's always so closely
tied to Aaron Rodgers, and that's Nathaniel Hackett, And now
that he is there and he is not going to
be working this season with Aaron Rodgers, how much of
a spotlight is there on Nathaniel Hackett now that it's
going to be him and Zach Wilson and not him
and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 8 (35:32):
I think you nailed it, James, and you were there
obviously for a lot of what took place in Denver
right as he embarked upon his head coach. I was
in the NFL, Yes, you were. He's going to bear
the responsibility fully, and I think you'll have an Aaron
Rodgers who's very involved. Aaron's a coach on the field.
Aaron dictates, as he's done his entire career, so much
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of what happens at the line of scrimmage he doesn't.
You could argue, like Tom Brady doesn't need a play call.
He's going to call the game himself. And when you
have that kind of a blankie, it makes your job
as an offensive coordinator a lot easier now, Like it
was really interesting when they were together in Green Bay.
I had some great conversations with coach Hacket. You know,
(36:17):
he runs the stairs before the game, He's out there
about three hours early. Those are the best times to
grab a coach because the game plan's been set all week.
They're finally ready to just go let it rip, and
you know, finding ways to stimulate Aaron Rodgers every single day,
with every single game plan is extraordinary to hear from
the offensive coordinator. So now fast forward, and he's going
(36:40):
to have a great deal of responsibility and making sure
Zach Wilson is capable and in good situations to get
the football out and make sure this team believes in him.
But I'll tell you what if you can run for
one hundred and seventy two.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yards like they did.
Speaker 8 (36:55):
Despite Rogers going down, and you've got Bryce Hall who's
over one hundred on the ground and Delvin Cook, I
would say there, there's the formula to start with. If
you're the New York Jets.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, it's the formula that got them to five and
two at the start of last season. I see some
pause moving around over there. Stacey sleeping dogs.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I know that from the streaming.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
We're in dreamland right now. She is in dreamland. And
you know who's in dreamland right now? All of Detroit
after they took down the reigning Super Bowl champs in
the first week. Let's hear Dan Campbell after that win
before we get back to Stace.
Speaker 9 (37:31):
I didn't learn anything. I got verification on what I
already knew and this is a resilient team. It already
was a resilient team. And we added pieces to that
resilient team. So we're built to handle some some stuff.
And and we did that today against a very good.
Speaker 8 (37:48):
Opponent, Motor City Dan.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
They didn't do that. Hey, they did do that.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Stays.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
How different is that building now with that man and
where they are right now, Stacy, where is that building.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
In terms of their mindset?
Speaker 8 (38:09):
I am so passionate about this, Like, okay, if you
don't believe in the Detroit Lions, and I'll put my
neck out there for this team. These are a bunch
of ballers when you walk in that building, this is
a group of winners. I mean obviously, you know, we
saw them go on the road. I don't care you know,
No Travis Kelcey, no, Chris Jones. I mean yeah, obviously
(38:30):
those are really incredible players and are going to be,
you know, impactful for the Chiefs this season. But that
is as you know, James, you're there all the time
at Arrowhead, that that environment, that's one hundred and forty
two decibels of noise in your ears. Now here's what
I'll say about Detroit that Ford Field is going to
be obnoxiously loud. So when you cover a game at
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Ford Field, they've got an open press bock in press box.
So listeners out there, what does that mean? You guys
know it's the there's no shield, there's no glass, it
is open. So when I do a game there, I
literally have to take my noise reducing headsets or my
ear plugs, and I got to put them in because
it is deafening at that field. And the culture is
really incredible. Jared Goff has been revitalized. He's playing I
(39:17):
wrote it down three hundred and fifty nine pass attempts
with that an interception? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yep?
Speaker 8 (39:22):
I mean third long streak. Ever, their rookie has been sensational,
so it's an exciting time in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
And says the fact they're playing a Seahawks team, it's
gonna be desperate. I just want to know the Blue
Man group. Jaunty Gardner. Johnson's calling for everybody in Detroit
to come in with blue scheme mask. You have five seconds.
If you were there, would you be rocking.
Speaker 8 (39:43):
One one hundred a HONDI P one hundred pee?
Speaker 3 (39:47):
There we go, There we go Stacey.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Dale's You're gonna be back even decumber yet, we're just
clearing our throats to that you are fantastic.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
We love you.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Go pet the dog that's in dreamland right now, because
when we come back to the NFL report, we're gonna
take a deep dive on the Aaron Rodgers effect, and
we're gonna hear from Mike Garrifolo and Judy Batista who
were on hand when things fell apart kind of Monday night.
Speaker 10 (40:18):
I feel more for Aaron than anyone, you know, he is.
He's invested so much into this organization, so much into
this journey that he's embarked on and wanting to be
a part of what we've got going here, and how
much he's invested in not only this organization but his
teammates himself. This fan baby.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
It was Jet's head coach Robert Salla. Obviously the news
of Aaron Rodgers were joined. I was watching this game
and the Achilles popping from my couch. Both of these individuals,
and Judy Batista and Mike Carrafulla were there at MetLife
and Mike, I want to know right from the jump,
when you see it happen, do you jump out of
your press box seat. Run me through how you got
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to the tunnel and what happened once you were there,
trying to be the intrepid reporter on.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
The scene that you are, Mikey g.
Speaker 11 (41:10):
Well, when you're in the press boxes, Judy and I
were the first thing that you want to acknowledge. And
if you hear this music, by the way, it's the
music of everybody warming up here before the Eagles Vikings
game is we're getting ready for You want to be
the eyes of the ears of the people who are
watching at home, and they're not getting constant updates. So
as soon as I see the cart headed for the
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blue tent, I said, all right, tweat it out.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
There's the cart.
Speaker 11 (41:33):
And then he leaves on the cart and I said
to Judy that's it. We're not gonna get anything else
from the press box. Let's go down to the tunnel.
We're looking for the X ray room because I have
a strong feeling.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
He's headed there.
Speaker 11 (41:43):
And I said to Judy, I said, I know where
the giants is. Do the giants have a separate or
did jets have a separate one? And we were trying
to figure that out and Eventually we hit a dead end.
We couldn't walk any further. We said, God must just
be the one X ray room outside the giants locker room.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Let's head back.
Speaker 11 (41:58):
So we start heading back that way, and I can
hear on the walkie talkie's of security they're getting ready
for something. I said, Judy, he's coming out any second now.
And all of a sudden, I heard are you ready?
And the guy goes, yeah, they go clear this hallway.
Everybody's got to go inside. I look at you. I go,
these guys got another thing coming. If they think they're
gonna tell us to go inside, Judy's like absolutely. So
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then the cart comes by me and I start taking video,
and if you can see, at the end of the video,
the gentleman tries to jump in front of me to
block the video, which was hysterical, and then his supervisor
comes over and says, excuse me, what are you doing?
I said, what do you mean? He goes, you're taking video?
I said I know, I am, and he goes, why
are you doing that? I showed up my put paths
and I said for information distribution purposes. He goes, but
(42:45):
are you allowed to do that? And I said yes,
and he goes but ethically, I said, I'm not worried
about ethically, I'm worried about journalistically. Yes, So I tweeted
the video out and the rest was history.
Speaker 12 (42:56):
Hey, on to the fourth of State and Mike Carrofolo
for the hustle, Judy Miyo. Mike was there in the
tunnels doing his job like the A one reporter he was,
And by the way, postgame, he absolutely killed the grasping
of the emotions from pregame to you know, the injury,
to the actual celebration of a win. But Judy, you
were there the following day with the Jets moving forward. Now,
(43:18):
what is kind of the feeling is that, Okay, everybodbody
else you have to gird Zach or is he really
our guy?
Speaker 13 (43:26):
I don't know if they're talking themselves into it, but yesterday,
which was the first time that the team was gathered
since then, you know, he is their guy and they're
going to line up behind him. Frankly, they don't really
have much of a choice.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
He's right now.
Speaker 13 (43:39):
He is certainly their best option. He knows the offense,
he's been there, and they all talked about how improved
he has been since OTA's and training camp. So I
think the message had come from Sala, like, Okay, you
had like the forty eight hours to sort of mourn
this injury, and now you've got the Dallas Cowboys and
you've got sixteen games and you're one to zero, and
so it's time to get ready. With Zach Wilson. You know,
(44:03):
Dalvin Cook, who is like basically the newest member of
the New York Jets. I thought I had the most
interesting balance of emotions because he was a little bit wistful.
He said he had come there hoping to get a
handoff from eight, he said, from a great Obviously that's
not going to happen this year. But then he said,
like Zach knows, we've got his back, like we've all
got to play better for Zach. And then he talked
(44:25):
again about how much confidence he has, which is a
big thing for the Jets because last year that was
a shattered quarterback and so the fact that he's got
confidence in himself and that the team around him has
confidence him is a big, big deal if this is
going to work.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Yeah, Mike, I want to ask you about that shattered quarterback.
Have the Jets looked elsewhere. Yet I'm assuming that started
and he'd look at a backup, a veteran backup. What
are their options around Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Yeah, backup is.
Speaker 11 (44:58):
The key word, because they don't want to bring anybody
that anybody else would be clamoring for, any of the
fans would be clamoring for. They want to make it
clear that Zach Wilson's got a clear runway here, So
any of the options would be uninspiring for the starting extent,
but not that there are any inspiring ones. Jet Sores
told me here immediately, Zach Wilson gives us the best
chance to win, so they definitely want to make sure
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that he's got his right mind about him. Right now,
they're going to elevate Tim Boyle from the practice squad.
They've got three elevations that they're allowed to do before
they have to add him to the roster permanently. So
wouldn't be surprised if Zach Wilson is the only quarterback
on the active roster, perhaps for the next couple of
weeks while they bounce Boiled back and forth, and then
maybe add another long term sinus.
Speaker 4 (45:40):
All right, Michael Judy, we know you guys are on
the clock, So look to Mike Gara follow for talking
through the sound checks. That is a very difficult part
of the things that we have to do. So props
my brother Judy great cooms at credit cale dot com
slash Batista, So make sure to check out the column
on the Jets' future and JP that Aaron Rodgers' injury
has sparked a new conversation about artificial turf versus grass.
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So when we come back on the NFL report, what's
it going to be like underguy's feet.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Well before it.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
Back in the NFL report, and Aaron Rodgers' injury sparked
another huge debate, JP, and that is to turf or
to have natural grass. As the NFL PA came out
and said that all fields should be natural grass. David Botiari,
the left tackle for the Packers during the game, said,
this is another incident of artificial turf leading to an injury.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
But JP, we've heard the discussion. We know it's not
going to happen.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
There are some teams that are just not going to
put in natural grass. It could be to climate, it
could be to a dome.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
There's no natural.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
Grass going in Mercedes Benz in Atlanta or the super
Dome in New Orleans. So this is going to be
a continued debate, James, And so to tell people really
about it, we're thinking about stadiums a lot when it
comes to artificial term for grass.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
But this is practice.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
Fields, this is indoor facilities as well. There's a lot
more to it than just natural grass at stadiums.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
I was at Broncos when Russell Wilson talked about this
this week and it was actually, I don't know, maybe
it's a rarity, a very honest moment from Russell Wilson
where he took a stance Dave.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
He had an opinion.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
He said, specifically practice He wants to be on grass
fields for his ankles, for his knees. He brought up
the indoor facility that the Broncos have and it's a
newer endoor facility that they have. And if that doesn't
show you the way veteran players that we talk to
Steve around the league feel about indoor practice facilities. Usually
if there's weather or something that happens, the team has
to go indoors. There is every veteran on the team
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that is throwing on the sneakers and they are like,
I am done for today. I am doing a walkthrough.
That is the extent of what I'll do on this
indoor practice facilit That's usually what happens yep, during the week.
It's funny that that's their thinking, right Steve. But at
the same time, then on Sunday they're going to go
out and play on a turf field. And you brought
this up earlier their first instance into the NFL as
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a young prospect, that the NFL combine is on what surface.
Speaker 4 (48:16):
It is not on natural grass, it is on turf,
I mean, and that's part of it. And this is
where Joe Burrow, JP and you were talking about this
when he came out to if we're going to have turf,
it should be universal turf at all of those sites idea,
And speaking with the NFL, it is up to each
individual team on which turf manufacturer they want to use
for their stadiums and for their practice facility.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
So that is a good idea by Joe Burrow. Why
don't you elaborate.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Yeah, I love that Joe came up with that idea,
considering he's a guy that's also had an ACL in
the past, right, and also is somebody that spends a
lot of time on the turf depending on how his
offensive line plays. But having a universal turf from field
to field, at least in his mind, would give players
an understanding of what they're going to be playing on
and a knowledge before they get to that game on
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what playing surface they're going to be playing on. But
again we'll find out if that happens. There's a lot
that goes on in these stadiums moving forward in different
types of events, monster trucks, all sorts of stuff. Steve,
it was a pleasure. I'm going to see you Monday.
We'll recap some Week two games on the NFL Report.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
See you guys on Monday,
All right, pencils down, heads up, Steve, It's time for
the NFL Report.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Steve White, James Palmer with you, and we have the
man Steve who.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Was spending every waking hour with the number one overall pick,
Bryce Young. That's Panthers offensive coordinator Thomas Brown gonna join
the show for an exclusive interview. Just wait, do you
hear what he asked to say about about the number
one pick?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I get?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Just wait until you have.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I can't wait for it because I used to cover
Thomas and college when he was a running back at Georgia.
So I'm really excited about this. But Jay PMLO down
the dumps. You know, two days ago a water main breaks,
a waterminon breaks in the house, so I got a
whole room flooded. My wife's got her family up, My
wife D's got her family up from Jamaica, so we
got this whole room now that's flooded, waters everywhere. But
(00:51):
that's not why I'm really down on the dumps JP.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
It was the plumbing.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Duw.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Yeah, you know, they're like it's gonna cost you this much.
I felt like Vonte is perfect. When I got fined
by the NFL from my fifteenth hit for unnecessary roughness
and do you know how big that fine those fines are.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, that's from Owen lawns around the neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
That's where I'm right now.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
But look, we're also gonna have Brian Baldinger, and we
are gonna have all kinds of different angles on this
Aaron Rodgers subject, from how you know Aaron Rodgers history
to how it affects not only the Jets moving forward,
but at least one of their opponents.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
You're not gonna want to miss that. We've got Stacey.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
DL's, Brian Baldinger, Mike Grefolo, Judy Batista joining us JP
and first up, this is a game I don't think
either one of us can wait to see. Coming up,
we've got the Kansas City Chiefs coming off the l
to the Detroit Lions playing the Jacksonville Jaguars who win
the opener and James. This doesn't say anything about the Chiefs,
but the fact that we're talking about how they could
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open the season with back to back losses against the
Lions and Jags tells you the state of those teams
right now.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Steve, you've been down to the dumps too much, so
I'm not gonna go negative. I'm gonna swing it over
to Jacksonville and go positive for us here. Imagine what
this benchmark game could be for the Jacksonville Jaguars organization.
If they take down the defending Super Bowl champs in
Week two and this might happen. I think, Steve, because
of when this game is happening, it's early in the season.
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We know Chris Jones is back, we know he's been
doing two a days down.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
In Miami, but he's not Nick Bosa.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I'm curious how many snaps he can go and how
that affects them getting after Trevor Lawrence because there's some
issues injuries wise up front on that offensive line. Can
they still be explosive and they can put some points
on the board. And then on the other side, we
know Travis Kelce probably coming back for this game. I
was told when an injury happened, a one to two
week injury. Is he one hundred percent? This could be
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shaking up for a really good spot in the season
for Jacksonville to come away with a win. The closing
part of this, Steve, is closing out games. That's something
that the Jaguars know that the Chiefs are very good
at We know that Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid are
great in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
They get better as the game goes on.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
But talking to people in Jacksonville, they believe that's a
trait that they're developing as well. And if they're able
to compete in the fourth quarter and win a tight
game over the defending Super Bowl champs, a game that
they believe they should have won in the postseason, right
talk to Doug Peters in this offseason. He truly believes
they should have won that game in Arrowhead. This could
be a massive game for the organization, for the Jacksonville Jaguars,
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and they're treating it as such. It's a playoff atmosphere,
I'm told down there in.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Jacksonville, well as it should be.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Look Kevin Calvin Ridley and the way he performed in
his debut last week is great reason for that optimism.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
And the fact that he talked about that the.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Jags actually had the Chiefs on the ropes to some
degree in that playoff game last season, I mean that
says a lot about where they are. And I remember
this was the game when Patrick Mahomes first had that
got that high ankle. Spraint lingered all the way through
the Super Bowl, so that was part of it.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
But you brought up Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
He had fourteen catches and two touchdowns in that game.
He is that much of a difference make. But we'll
make a difference with this receiving corps that did not
play well without him in Week one? Or will arrest
of the guy step up to help booie Travis Kelsey,
Because all of a sudden, if Kelsey's not one hundred percent,
those guys aren't showing up that and we have to
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start to wonder if the Kansas City Chiefs have I
have some greater underlying issues.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
All Right, I'm really curious where Joan Taylor is going
to line up, Steve. I'm really I'm really curious how
far back he's.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Gonna going to left tackle. You were talking about depth
from the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
And guess what, I think Doug Peterson knows a thing
or two about about his former tackle.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Let's move to the game that I'm going to be Yeah,
and I think this is a great game. This is
Ravens at Bengals.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
And I had a chance to talk to a couple
players on the phone this week, had a chance to
talk to Tyler Boyd, who told me that, yes, that
is the worst he has ever seen Joe Burrow play.
But the interesting part Steven in our conversation is he said,
you know why he's so even keel all the time,
because he said, this week, nothing has faced him. He's
been the same guy each and every day. Bothered him
that he went out and threw for eighty two yards. Yes,
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he did to get a haircut. He said that was
partially because of the way he played, not entirely, but
he said, this is why he's wired this way. He
goes to Ohio State, my university, makes a terrible decision
and moves on from him.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
He transfers to LSU.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
And his point with this is he has had to
grind each in every spot he's been. Nothing's been handed
to him in any of the spots he's been, which
is an interesting thing to say for a former.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Number one overall pick.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
But he said that's why he has this mentality that
he can go out and bounce back from things because
of what's happened to him in his path getting to
the NFL and being the highest paid player in the
history of the league right now.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
JP, if we think he is not going to bounce back,
that we need to go get drug tested or something.
You know, I need to go have more pipes in
my house burst or something.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Because he's going to bounce back. He's gonna bounce back.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
The issue of this game is not going to be
Joe Burrow against This Ravens defense is down some dbs
right They've already had some injuries on their defense. The
issue is going to be Cincinnati's defense because no matter
what we want to say about this expanded Ravens offense,
they're still going to try.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
To run the ball. And Baltimore's offense.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Was not great in their opener against Houston. They barely
surpassed one hundred yards on the ground. Lamar Jackson was
a little bit here and there when it came to
the pass game.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
They've got some things to work out.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
But after seeing the Bengals surrender more than two hundred
rushing guards against the Browns and they really didn't adjust
to fix it.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Now, the Ravens they don't have JK.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Dobbins, you know, they don't have Nick Chubb that Cleveland did,
But that defense has got to button it up or else,
John Harbaugh, Todd Munket, and that that run offense is
going to continue to trying to pound the rock.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Steve.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I look at one word that sums up I think
this entire game, and that is communication, and that involves
the Ravens. What are the two position groups that need
the really the best amount of continuity communication within a game.
It's offensive line and it's the second death second right,
those are the two spots that need to continue to
talk to each other throughout a game.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
You mentioned it.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Marcus Williams, the leader of that secondary, most likely not
playing in this game, hasn't practiced all week with the
peck injury. Marlon Humphrey not back yet from the foot injury.
Down both those guys. Kyle Hamilton talked about it at
length this week about how communication is an issue back there. Yes,
they all play call of duty with one another. That
does happen in the secondary when they're having their downtime,
but on the field, having the proper amount of communication
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against these three dynamic wide receivers is important. And then
Ronnie Staley and Tyler Linderbaum, their center and their left
table have not practiced all week.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
The game on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
That's difficult upfront, when you're working in a new system
and just your second game with it. You want to
run the football, and we know DJ Reader and company
up front with Luena Romo can make some damage. Those
are the two spots I'm really keeping an eye on
in this game when I'm going to be there on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, I mean talking about interesting defenses.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
We saw the Dallas Cowboys put a forty long dunk
on the Giants in the open of Micah Parsons.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
At every level they dominated.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Well, guess what they've got Zach Wilson and the one
to o Jets this week. But on paper, it looks
like an absolute domination for this Cowboys, going up against
a quarterback who has still not found himself.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
He was Aaron Rodgers backup.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
But this is what we're gonna do because we're gonna
talk about Aaron Rodgers exclusively.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
But I'm gonna tell you how Aaron Rodgers injury affects
more than just the Jets.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Within minutes of him going down Monday night, you better
believe all the Cowboys coaches, analytics people, scouts, everybody had
to scrap their game plan for their defensive install against
Aaron Rodgers. Remember there are coaches on the Cowboy staff
who were with Mike McCarthy and the Packers that you
know how Aaron Rodgers operates, scrap.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
That get ready for Zach Wilson.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
So what do they have with Zach Wilson preseason tape
with him in the Daniel Hackett system. So they had
to go scour that and we know in the preseason
they don't do too much. They had to watch this
game again to see what worked for the Jets, and
then they had to also go back and maybe look
at some of Jack Wilson stuff that he did the
last couple of seasons when he didn't play well. You
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have your scouts going back look at their their reviews
out of him. But he was coming out of BYU.
So there's a lot of detail for the opponent this week,
the Dallas Cowboys that.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
They had to go to that they were not expecting
to go to. That's just another.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Trickle down aspect of Aaron Rodgers' injury JP.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And you have to think it's week two, right, So
some of this work is done by some people in
that building during the end of preseason.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I mean they were probably a weighs.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Down in terms of their preparation about where they were
with this and because of their understanding of Nathaniel Hackett
and the thunderstanding specifically of Aaron Rodgers, and I'd like
to talk about Rogers moving forward, and we're going to
talk back up quarterbacks and their importance with Damas Brown
coming up in his interview, because I think they have
an experience, very good one there in Carolina.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And so.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
There were questions Steve, going, all right, where do the
Jets go? Who should they bring in?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
The best quarterback if you ask around the league for
the Jets right now, is Zach Wilson because he has
an understanding of the system, and anybody you bring in
that has to learn that system and play x mentally
better than him probably doesn't really exist for your liking
or your ability to go and get that quarterback. What
I'm curious about is because these two have sparked up
a very good friendship throughout this training camp, and that's
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Aaron Rodgers and Zack Wilson. Is Rogers going to stick
around and work in the room with Zach Wilson and
Nathaniel Hackett and company and making sure this young quarterback
is set up to succeed the best he can. Now, again,
I should put this clearly, that is not Aaron Rodgers'
job right now. His job is to get healthy, and
his job is to rehab and go through all this.
But he has talked about how rejuvenated he has Ben
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Steve coming and wing with these guys, throwing with everybody
in the offseason and being around this young group. He
could do wonders for helping out Zach Wilson because he
knows this better than anybody else.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I'm curious to see what role he plays moving forwards.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
And this is why I'm so glad.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I asked scy Dale's on Rye Stacia, world class athlete and
Olympic basketball player. It seems like it's a fairly simple
ask of Aaron Rodgers. Hey, once you've had your surgery,
come back and help. But we don't know what Aaron
Rodgers is going to be going through. We don't know
what he could be dealing with. We've heard so many
athletes talk about maybe going into dark pockets during rehab.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
And things like that.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
So to say Aaron, you need to be there for him,
that's not necessarily as simplistic of an ask as it
could be.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
But I think your point of the fact that just
a few.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Months that he's had together with Zach Wilson, the relationship
that they've had, he might be able to have sprinkled
some of that magic faery dust on him that it
looks like he sprinkled for three seasons on Jordan Love
based on how Jordan Love came out of the gate
last week.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Man, I was talking to Tracy Wilson in Foxborough last Sunday.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
She goes, we have the Jets Cowboys. Can you believe it?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I can't remember last time we did a Jets game
for our big broadcast on CBS. Well and Zach Wilson
against the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Well, coming up, we.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Have the number one overall pick, Bryce Young's mentors sidekick,
the guy who was molding him, Thomas Brown, the offensive
coordinator for the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
This is going to be ridiculous. Stick with us on
the NFL Report.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
All right.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Now, we have a very very special guest and JP.
This is what we love, right We're bringing people insiders
and information that they're not going to get anywhere else.
And we got Panthers offensive coordinator Thomas Brown joining us here.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
On the NFL Report TV.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Let's go, let's go. Excited to be here.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
That's what I'm talking to. Man, you're looking good.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Hey, shit, hey, appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
You know for the folks who are listening on the podcast,
they want to see. But Thomas, he's got off the
shrugs machine. He's kind of jacked and swollen right now.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
In our shot, you only get one body of life, right,
got a maximize that take care of it, work out
every day.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah, they had to widen his shot to fit him
in there. We're scrunched on the sides. Make sure he
looks good in the middle.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Hey a Thomas, Just just for timeliness of this before
we get on to a couple of years ago, you
blew out your achilles tendon, you know, when you were
with the Rams.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
You're rolling around on the scooter and everything.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
What you look You're you're a former world class athlete,
NFL running back, college running back. But what is that
experience like and just kind of walk as quickly through
your rehab.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Yes, it was rough.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
So I would say I was going through a number
routine on the field, doing the individual drill.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
So every day we have.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
I would say twenty minutes of individual So I have
the running backs and quarterbacks going through ball handle and
so I'm just kind of making those guys react.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Off of me.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
And I make one step and I feel like that
somebody just threw a football at the back of my ankle.
So I turned around looking behind me try to see
the ball was on the ground. I realized there was
no ball there, so I tried to go take a
step and I just helped.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
My whole kind of ankle and foot drop.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
So I turned to Reggie Scott and Sam McVay was
kind of standing by each other, and said, I think
I just told my achilles, and so they thought I
was joking, but I was. I was very serious about
tarring the achilles, and so Reggie asked me, are you sure,
And I said, Reggie, I'm not a doctor, but I'm
pretty try. I know what happens, will goes in between
the same little spot, and it's missing right now.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
And so my first thought was.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
You know, can I get off the field and I
walk off the field, So I tried to. I did
walk myself to the training room, and so a number
of motions are going through.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
My brain, you know.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Luckily, for me in that position, I'm no longer playing,
so it won't affect that aspect of it. I can
imagine from a players standpoint, right how devastate it is
going to be when it comes to the initial injury
being out for the entire year, but thinking about just
the rehab process going back and kind of recovering from
the injury. And for myself, I mean, I'm a fairly
older dude now, I try to still be somewhat relatively young,
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but it took me a good, you know, eight to
nine months to get back to doing everything I want.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
You're like thirty, you know, you're younger than Rogers, Yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
So I mean I think being able to try to
build back and get back into one hundred percent shape
was was a tough challenge for me my life. But
it's different when it comes to being a washed up
coach versus being a player.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
And you're problem right now.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
But I'm kind of curious in this so when this happens,
and not just what we saw Monday night with Aaron Rodgers,
but in any instance where you know your starter goes down,
what's the first conversation on the sideline that you have
as a play caller, as an offensive coordinator, as a
part of the offensive staff. With that backup quarterback that's
going in what initially happens on the sideline right away, Well.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
The first thing for me is just trying.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
So it makes me ease his mind when it comes
to the moment of having a to come in that
top opportunity.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
I think every time you have a major injury on
the field, I think every player.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
Kind of has that that thought in the back of
their mind about some significant injury happening. So my role
is going to be a tight hole. All those guys
done as much as possible. All those guys will play
with a quiet in mind and kind of get those
guys rolling.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
I want to play starts.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
So Thomas, with that situation, you know, so we know
the big deal with Aaron Rodgers going to the Jets
the quarterback, you guys have a very capable backup and
Andy Dalton. I mean, right as we're looking around the NFL,
not every team is as fortunate as you to have
somebody like that. What about you guys in Carolina having
someone like Andy Dalton who's there just in case of
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a worst case scenario.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
I mean, I think just from the standpoint of what
you mentioned Steve about being worst case scenario, but I
think more importantly the everyday process of him being a
poor into Bryce from his experience right his exposure for
being in this league for a very long time, how
open Andy is, how he communicates in the media room,
but also given Bryce kind of just subtle tips and
sails on the football field, that was what his overall
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development is awesome for us.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
So he's been through a lot of games, Andy Dalton,
and he's watched the film the next day with coaching
staffs a lot. Bryce did that for the very first
time after your game on Sunday. If you could take
us Thomas into that room and kind of what that
first film session was like after Bryce's first game, what.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Went down in there.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
Well, first off, we're all very disappointing about the outcome
of the game. I think any time we lose a
football game, I've always been a very sole loser, my
mom reminds me from time to time, from the age
I was eight years old up until now. But I
think being able to build upon some of the positive
things we did offensively, but more particularly when it comes
to Bryce and his overall growth, and development. You look
at the tape and talk about the positive takeaways, you
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look at how you operate the system from a huddle standpoint,
but also the saline communication I thought was really good,
especially for.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
His first opportunity time being out.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
But what an opportunity to learn like first week one
have adversity, and what I love about adversity is the
opportunity to be able to take on the challenge to
learn and grow from it. And Bryce is is as
good as as I've been around when it comes to
taking on those challenges.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
So when you're when you're game planning, now now that
you've got a baseline right from the game against Atlanta,
now you go through the Saints on Monday night, I mean,
what is Bryce's approach? Because everything we saw in college
was Okay, let's go get it.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
We know we did wrong, let's go get it. Kind
of tell us what it's been like. Work with him.
Going into week.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Two, I'm in the exact same way. I think. One
of the things I love about Bryce is his overall
approach back.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
We were kind of going through the process of evaluating quarterbacks.
We're on a couple of planes start around the country
to interview quarterbacks, but also watch those guys throw in person.
And so I meet with all the quarterbacks and the
Maximus guys some similar questions, and one of the questions
I ask all the quarterbacks was just take me through. Okay,
the game is done it Saturday night. What's your weekly
process from the time of the game end to the
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next game. And so most quarterbacks had probably I would
say ten to fifteen minute response. Right, So we're seventeen
minutes into the and to Bryce answering the question, and
we're still on Tuesday morning, So I think being it
when it comped this overall development, he has a great approach,
a great process towards understanding how to move on past
the game, learn from those mistakes, but also build upon
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what he did well as well.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Also, well, Thomas, there was all of you guys on
that plane, on this offensive staff going around. So I
saw a bunch of you guys at Ohio State at CJ.
Shroud's pro day, and you guys were making the round.
With that said, all of these offensive minds you guys
have on this staff, how do you, I guess in
this process with a young quarterback, the number one overall
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pick is talented as Bryce is kind of divvy up
who does what? How does it get split way?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Is there a meeting.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Before, like, do you guys devise who handles what? How
does it operate within the staff when you're trying to
mold him early on?
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
The great thing about our setup is that we have
a great operation when it comes to delegating roles and responsibilities.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
I think sometimes when it comes to.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
Having so much, you know, whether the mental capacity or
experience in one room, depending on who you had, it
can become an issue. We do a great job when
it comes to always checking your ego at the door.
We're all about trying to find ways to figure out
what is right versus who is right. So I think
the collaboration process we have has been amazing.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
It's been awesome. I look forward to kind of building
that every day.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
And Thomas you talk about, you know, the collaboration forging
a identity. Right, you're a former running back, you've coach run.
What about the run game and how important that is.
It's not only helping Bryce develop, but you guys establishing
what type of character you're going to be Offensively?
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Yeah, So I mean we break down offensive identity. So
we talked about this from day one we got back
here in April when our players came in. We broke
it down to kind of three different categories, all right.
Number one was being the physical at every position, and
so you mentioned a running game. Everything starts with that
approach for us. One of the biggest positive takeaway from
our game is that the really good job of being
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aggressive attacking running back to the really good job when
it comes to running after running, make a contact after
the ball, kind of from a contact standpoint, fight infective
yards when it comes to the overall development of a
young quarterback, but also offensively in general, everything deals off
of that. You're talking about your play pass, your keepers,
your nakeds, and obviously drive back offense as well.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Tomas, does that playoff of what you?
Speaker 5 (20:56):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Obviously you look at what everybody else is doing, right,
and everybody kind of sees and steals from one another.
Is it looking at what is a trend in defensive
football in the NFL alters what you want to do
offensively or do you look more at at offensive football
around the NFL and then kind of build it off
that obvious it is off of your personnel but still,
what side of the ball do you look at more
to kind of build that identity what you said.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Last part, the most important thing is you kind of
already mentioned when it comes to understanding your personneling what
you guys do well offensively upfront, quarterback wise or skilled players.
But I mean to me, it's kind of a combination
of both. When you look at trends around the league
from an off of the standpoint defensively, you can get
certain ideas from there from the offensive perspective, but we
kind of hold true to our identity, our philosophy, trying
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to build upon every single week, but also doing a
great job of self scout. So once we have a game,
obviously kind of correcting those corrections, but what do we
put on tape? What can we build off of that
kind of our opponents is watching to kind of, you know,
make it more difficult for those guys to defend us
moving forward.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
And Thomas, we saw in preseason second half of games
you were calling the place. Frank Reicher said, at some point,
you guys are going to make the transition, whenever that
is this season, next season, whatever, You're gonna be.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
The play caller. How do you guys work with that.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
How has Frank work with you and when you coach
under Sean McVeigh and maybe teaching you some of the
things and taking your input on some things you guys
can forge when that transition takes place.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Well, one, I've always been a sponge, so have an
opportunity to, like you mentioned before, being in the environment
with so many great minds around us, but the kind
of one on one time with Frank every single day
we kind of put together that game plan and talk
about certain ideas.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Obviously winning on guy like coach call what as well,
who can kind of obviously.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Add advice from his vast experience from a behind the
scenes standpoint, But I think it's about the daily collaboration
and me understanding more about him and kind of vice
versa in combination, will putting out buzzing a pleasant in
the best spot to have success right we cand and
week out.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Tom, I'm fascinated by play callers. I love when guys
say there's so much in the zone. They're not even
looking at the sheet, right, They're just they're just calling it.
But everybody kind of has a different description of it.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Right. Some guys say it's a science. Some guys say
it's an art, some guys say it's a feel. How
would you describe play calling?
Speaker 6 (23:06):
I think the biggest part of it is about preparation,
you know, so obviously being able to have a fill
on game is important. Being able to adapt in the
just depending what the opponent is giving is going to
be a big part of you having success on game day.
But it's about what are you doing throughout the week
putting the game and putting the game on from a
game plan standpoint, how you bring it to life More importantly,
how you explain those details to your players, because all
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boils down to not how smart you claim to be
a want to be as a play caller, but how
smart are your players? What those guys can activate on
game day?
Speaker 4 (23:36):
All right, Thomas, let's take it back when we got
that number twenty on at Uga.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Okay, we're going back to running backs. All the conversation
is off season is our running backs are devalued. But
every week all I hear is how valuable the running
game is?
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Right, what is the difference between the value of running
backs and the value of the running game.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
Well, Steve, I'll say this, staying in the frustration the
round the league when it comes to some of these
elite players who will continued to produce on a consistent
basis and want to.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Be rewarded for it.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
But all can do is speak for us as from
an organization standpoint and our value.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
And I went off a guy like.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
Miles Sons, for example, who had great value for us,
and people may say from a market value standpoint it
was a little bit higher, but just as far as
how we want to be built identity wise, it was
a perfect fit for us when it comes to how
we're building your system, but also a great for rookie
quarterback as well.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Miles can do it all.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
We all know that he can do a lot of
different things as a running back Thomason And so last
one for me is you're going into your second game
with your quarterback. Everybody talks about adversity when things don't
go right for young quarterbacks. How do they bounce back?
How do they respond? What was your take on this week?
What may be instances if there is one that sticks
out to you most about Bryce where you said, oh okay.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
This is kind of different than this guy, Well.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
I think, to me is what I've seen every single
day and he stepped foot on in his organization. From
a practice standp went preparation wise, Pross.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
In the media room.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
I mean, he is calm, cool, collective.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
But one thing I did see that I love is
obviously from a game play standpoint, just to fire the
emotion of the theme and the solid when it comes
to making players, getting guys going, but obviously wanting to
have the ball in his hands when it counts the most,
so we can definitely build upon when it comes to
our overall operation.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Thomas Brown, offensive coordinator for the Carolina Panthers, thank you
so much. Now that you finished shruggs and shoulders, don't
forget leg Day, Thomas. Your gotta stay balanced, man.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Start every Monday with leg Day.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
The big farm, That's.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
What I'm talking about. Thomas, Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
Thank you for the time.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
He never misses his leg Dare.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
That's Brian Baldinger and he's gonna be here later and
tell us about Packers quarterback Jordan Love. The eye and
the sky don't lie, and neither is Brian Baldinger.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Welcome back to the NFL Report, and just like every Thursday,
we're joined by Brian, balding Er and Baldi. We love
that you get to listen to our interviews each and
every week.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
And Thomas Brown's breaking down play calling.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
I was in.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Foxborough last Sunday watching Brian Johnson go out there and
call plays for the first time in the NFL. I'm
fascinated by play calling, and I know you have an
interest in it too, just in the manner in which
it's done successfully.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Well.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Look, I mean if you look at like, why would
Brian Johnson change what change Psychin did last year with
Jalen Hurts, Like, you know, they're a deep shot team. Okay,
they were a quarterback. You know, you got to count
for him in a run game. They're a power run team.
Like they just do certain things that they're really good at.
And the Patriots do that. And the Patriots had a
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good game plan. They were they played a lot of his own.
They clouded all their deep shots that Eagles didn't get
one play down the field the AJ Brown or to
Plant Smith, not one. They averaged five yards you know
an attempt like they should be up around eight yards
in a temp. All right, we're not getting carried away
with stats. But and then they played a five minute
defensive front with one linebacker, and they basically said, okay,
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move us off the ball. And those all those mercenaries
up front that played Patriot football, they didn't get moved,
you know, they didn't get moved by Jordan Mulatta and
by Kelsey and Lane. Like they held their ground really well.
They shut down on what was a powerful running game
a week ago. I mean it was it was good
balance what the Patriots did defensively.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Hey, Baldy, the folks are listening to the podcast won't
be able to see it. But you got a pillow
behind you, man, are you like sleeping in the office there?
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Bro.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Every once in a while, the eyelid they get heavy
steams and they got a rest just before it, you know,
like in the fifteenth hours. Sometimes you need to sneak
right there. I see it, I see it. That's good
eyes right there by youth peper. Sometimes it was eyelands
get a little heavy, like even two fifth they keep
the eye open, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I mean, this is this is how dedicated you are, Baldy.
But you just talked about that Patrio's defense.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Well, this week they faced a buzz saw of an
offense with the Miami Dolphins. We saw them hang thirty
six on the Chargers. I mean, the passing game layered
all over the place. I know Mike mc daniels said
he wanted to run the ball more, but Jesus man,
it seemed like they were throwing the ball all the
time with routes that could not be denied.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
Well, look, I mean Tyreek had you know, one of
those days, okay, And I was just shocked that the
Chargers never adjusted like you got. Like I've seen Bill
Belichick play elite receivers and they will cloud them. I
don't care what the name of the back of the
jersey was. Could have been Chad Johnson back in the day.
You know, they had a cloud over the top. And
this throw right here by Tyreek, Like, where is the
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safety over the top on that at thirty five yard touchdown?
This game winner right here, you're gonna put Mike Davis
on him. There was nowhere else that to was going
but to Tyreek. And so like this the first play
the game, I don't know, they're in some kind of
a walk away with Khalil Mack. The safety wasn't sure
if they were going to clamp him in his own
like he.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Was just too wide open all day.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
And I just don't believe the Patriots will let that happen.
Like maybe Jalen Wide gets some you know, maybe the
running backs get a few more, but I don't think
Tyreek Hill is going to run wide open and open
freeways up there in Foxborough this week.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
There.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I'm curious, aboudy what on the other side of the
coin with the way Mike McDaniel does things in terms
of when he sees this Sunday and you want to
see what Bill Belichick's trying to take away early? What
does he do as an offensive mine to adjust to
to an experienced defensive caller like Bill Belichick.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
Well, there's you know, there's formations like how are they
playing informations James, I mean bunch formation. Are they manning
it or they's owning it? You know, there's so many
different factors that you're just sending indicators. You know, is
there gonna be a lot of more pre stat motion
this week? And how the Patriots handled that? They do
the Patriots disguise their motion and tell you that they're
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playing man and then play zone off of it. You know,
I thought it was interesting last week Eagles took a
deep shot to AJ Brown and you know it's a
classic to Jalen Hurst and A J. Brown, And there's
Gonzales and Maypou, two rookies that bracketed it. You couldn't
have walked through it on Friday afternoon any better than
they executed it. Mike wants to see that, like, are
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they going to bracket our deep shots? Are they going
to cloud it? And if they do, then the underneath
should work, should open? Are they gonna play zone? Are
they gonna mix it up? Are they playing half field
man Halffield zone? Like Mike's looking for all those indicators
and then for any indicator that he sees, He's got
a beater for it, you know, whether it's a man beater,
whether it's flooding the zone. But the good thing is
(30:51):
Tua was so clear in what he was looking at
last Sunday. And people can argue all they want about too.
If that guy going back to Alabama days is mechanically sound,
his feet gets set, and when his feet gets set,
like he makes one stick throw after another like right here,
like in stride, you're gonna get aldiac Like he is
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a deadly accurate thrower and his deep ball, like you
can't throw it any better over the top. Now that's
the fourth corner right there.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
You know, the Chargers. Why not go after.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Hey, Baldy, speaking about mechanically sound and indicators, Let's go
to Jordan Love because for a couple of years we
heard there was no indication that he was gonna be
able to play.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Quarterback in this league.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
And from what we saw in the preseason and his debut,
he looks like he's going to be just fine.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
Well, I mean, just think about the receiving card he's
throwing a Jaden Reid their second round pick. Yeah, Romeo
Dobbs the second round you know, for a year or
two right now, that touched the floater to Romeo Dobbs.
All right, just a back shoulder fade in the corner
of the end zone. We've watched far do it for
fifteen years. We want Sharon Rodgers do it for fifteen years,
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and we might just watch Jordan Love Jeordan for fifty
because he threw it just the way both those.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Hall of famers threw it.
Speaker 7 (32:08):
Yeah, like it was he knew exactly where to put
that ball and let doms go get it, all right.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Baldy, that's really great stuff.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
We're gonna make a transition from Jordan Love to the
story of the week and Aaron Rodgers and Baldy we
will see you next Thursday. But here's Rogers post surgery
on IG. Thank you to every person that has reached out,
called Texas DM, connected to a friend, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Has met a ton to me and I'll try to
get back to all of you soon.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
I'm completely heartbroken and moving through all the emotions, but
deeply touched and humbled by the support and love. Please
keep me in your thoughts and prayers. I begin the
healing process today. The night is darkest before the dawn,
and I shall rise yet again proud of my guys.
One and oh, so Aaron Rodgers does not sound like
his career is gonna.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Be ending getting carted off of a field.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
And now we bring in Stacy Dale's who out of
all the people in NFL media staff, I spent the
most time around Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
But Sat, I want to get this from your perspective again.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
You're your Olympic basketball player, you are a world class
athlete hooper at Oklahoma. An injury like this to someone
like Aaron Rodgers, who again you spent years around at
thirty nine, the coping mechanisms he might have to put
in place or whatever, Like, what can you tell us
about maybe what he's going to have to deal with here?
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yeah, no question.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Good to be with you guys.
Speaker 8 (33:31):
And I do have a pillow in the background.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Like Baldy and a dog.
Speaker 8 (33:36):
I see with Aaron Rodgers, it was time for him
to move on, right, And you just spoke with Baldy
about Jordan Love and just how efficient he was, and
they've really given him the keys to the to the
jeep if you will. I mean in Green Bay, and
there's got to be something about the water in Green
Bay when you come out and have a performance like that.
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But I would just classify this as traumatizing, and Jeff Collette,
the producer, could probably attest as a Packers fan like
traumatizing and devastating for any player to suffer an injury
in the first game, but for it to be Aaron Rodgers,
who will be a first ballot as we all know.
And I can't recall like you and I spoke Steve
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this week on the phone, and I just can't recall
a player of this magnitude in Week one, suffering such
a distinct injury, it's and then the questions sort of prevail,
like is this going to be the end of his career?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
We were told.
Speaker 8 (34:34):
Basically in that post that he gave us all on Instagram. No,
and then Nathaniel Hackett spoke today as well about the
fact that they fully believe, at least there in the
Jets building, that he's going to come back. And that's
going to be I think the most interesting thing because
he's played their injuries in his career. This is achilles injury.
It's unlike you know, other injuries, and it takes a
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long time after the surgery to heal and to really
get back your feet again, if you will. But yeah,
it's devastating. It's traumatizing for the team, and I think
we've all learned that given some of the comments and
interviews done this week.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Stasey, I'm curious about the man that's always so closely
tied to Aaron Rodgers, and that's Nathaniel Hackett, And now
that he is there and he is not going to
be working this season with Aaron Rodgers, how much of
a spotlight is there on Nathaniel Hackett now that it's
going to be him and Zach Wilson and not him
and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 8 (35:32):
I think you nailed it, James, and you were there
obviously for a lot of what took place in Denver
right as he embarked upon his head coach. I was
in the NFL, Yes, you were. He's going to bear
the responsibility fully, and I think you'll have an Aaron
Rodgers who's very involved. Aaron's a coach on the field.
Aaron dictates, as he's done his entire career, so much
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of what happens at the line of scrimmage he doesn't.
You could argue, like Tom Brady doesn't need a play call.
He's going to call the game himself. And when you
have that kind of a blankie, it makes your job
as an offensive coordinator a lot easier now, Like it
was really interesting when they were together in Green Bay.
I had some great conversations with coach Hacket. You know,
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he runs the stairs before the game, He's out there
about three hours early. Those are the best times to
grab a coach because the game plan's been set all week.
They're finally ready to just go let it rip, and
you know, finding ways to stimulate Aaron Rodgers every single day,
with every single game plan is extraordinary to hear from
the offensive coordinator. So now fast forward, and he's going
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to have a great deal of responsibility and making sure
Zach Wilson is capable and in good situations to get
the football out and make sure this team believes in him.
But I'll tell you what if you can run for
one hundred and seventy two.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yards like they did.
Speaker 8 (36:55):
Despite Rogers going down, and you've got Bryce Hall who's
over one hundred on the ground and Delvin Cook, I
would say there, there's the formula to start with. If
you're the New York Jets.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, it's the formula that got them to five and
two at the start of last season. I see some
pause moving around over there. Stacey sleeping dogs.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I know that from the streaming.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
We're in dreamland right now. She is in dreamland. And
you know who's in dreamland right now? All of Detroit
after they took down the reigning Super Bowl champs in
the first week. Let's hear Dan Campbell after that win
before we get back to Stace.
Speaker 9 (37:31):
I didn't learn anything. I got verification on what I
already knew and this is a resilient team. It already
was a resilient team. And we added pieces to that
resilient team. So we're built to handle some some stuff.
And and we did that today against a very good.
Speaker 8 (37:48):
Opponent, Motor City Dan.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
They didn't do that. Hey, they did do that.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Stays.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
How different is that building now with that man and
where they are right now, Stacy, where is that building.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
In terms of their mindset?
Speaker 8 (38:09):
I am so passionate about this, Like, okay, if you
don't believe in the Detroit Lions, and I'll put my
neck out there for this team. These are a bunch
of ballers when you walk in that building, this is
a group of winners. I mean obviously, you know, we
saw them go on the road. I don't care you know,
No Travis Kelcey, no, Chris Jones. I mean yeah, obviously
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those are really incredible players and are going to be,
you know, impactful for the Chiefs this season. But that
is as you know, James, you're there all the time
at Arrowhead, that that environment, that's one hundred and forty
two decibels of noise in your ears. Now here's what
I'll say about Detroit that Ford Field is going to
be obnoxiously loud. So when you cover a game at
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Ford Field, they've got an open press bock in press box.
So listeners out there, what does that mean? You guys
know it's the there's no shield, there's no glass, it
is open. So when I do a game there, I
literally have to take my noise reducing headsets or my
ear plugs, and I got to put them in because
it is deafening at that field. And the culture is
really incredible. Jared Goff has been revitalized. He's playing I
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wrote it down three hundred and fifty nine pass attempts
with that an interception? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yep?
Speaker 8 (39:22):
I mean third long streak. Ever, their rookie has been sensational,
so it's an exciting time in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
And says the fact they're playing a Seahawks team, it's
gonna be desperate. I just want to know the Blue
Man group. Jaunty Gardner. Johnson's calling for everybody in Detroit
to come in with blue scheme mask. You have five seconds.
If you were there, would you be rocking.
Speaker 8 (39:43):
One one hundred a HONDI P one hundred pee?
Speaker 3 (39:47):
There we go, There we go Stacey.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Dale's You're gonna be back even decumber yet, we're just
clearing our throats to that you are fantastic.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
We love you.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Go pet the dog that's in dreamland right now, because
when we come back to the NFL report, we're gonna
take a deep dive on the Aaron Rodgers effect, and
we're gonna hear from Mike Garrifolo and Judy Batista who
were on hand when things fell apart kind of Monday night.
Speaker 10 (40:18):
I feel more for Aaron than anyone, you know, he is.
He's invested so much into this organization, so much into
this journey that he's embarked on and wanting to be
a part of what we've got going here, and how
much he's invested in not only this organization but his
teammates himself. This fan baby.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
It was Jet's head coach Robert Salla. Obviously the news
of Aaron Rodgers were joined. I was watching this game
and the Achilles popping from my couch. Both of these individuals,
and Judy Batista and Mike Carrafulla were there at MetLife
and Mike, I want to know right from the jump,
when you see it happen, do you jump out of
your press box seat. Run me through how you got
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to the tunnel and what happened once you were there,
trying to be the intrepid reporter on.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
The scene that you are, Mikey g.
Speaker 11 (41:10):
Well, when you're in the press boxes, Judy and I
were the first thing that you want to acknowledge. And
if you hear this music, by the way, it's the
music of everybody warming up here before the Eagles Vikings
game is we're getting ready for You want to be
the eyes of the ears of the people who are
watching at home, and they're not getting constant updates. So
as soon as I see the cart headed for the
(41:31):
blue tent, I said, all right, tweat it out.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
There's the cart.
Speaker 11 (41:33):
And then he leaves on the cart and I said
to Judy that's it. We're not gonna get anything else
from the press box. Let's go down to the tunnel.
We're looking for the X ray room because I have
a strong feeling.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
He's headed there.
Speaker 11 (41:43):
And I said to Judy, I said, I know where
the giants is. Do the giants have a separate or
did jets have a separate one? And we were trying
to figure that out and Eventually we hit a dead end.
We couldn't walk any further. We said, God must just
be the one X ray room outside the giants locker room.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Let's head back.
Speaker 11 (41:58):
So we start heading back that way, and I can
hear on the walkie talkie's of security they're getting ready
for something. I said, Judy, he's coming out any second now.
And all of a sudden, I heard are you ready?
And the guy goes, yeah, they go clear this hallway.
Everybody's got to go inside. I look at you. I go,
these guys got another thing coming. If they think they're
gonna tell us to go inside, Judy's like absolutely. So
(42:21):
then the cart comes by me and I start taking video,
and if you can see, at the end of the video,
the gentleman tries to jump in front of me to
block the video, which was hysterical, and then his supervisor
comes over and says, excuse me, what are you doing?
I said, what do you mean? He goes, you're taking video?
I said I know, I am, and he goes, why
are you doing that? I showed up my put paths
and I said for information distribution purposes. He goes, but
(42:45):
are you allowed to do that? And I said yes,
and he goes but ethically, I said, I'm not worried
about ethically, I'm worried about journalistically. Yes, So I tweeted
the video out and the rest was history.
Speaker 12 (42:56):
Hey, on to the fourth of State and Mike Carrofolo
for the hustle, Judy Miyo. Mike was there in the
tunnels doing his job like the A one reporter he was,
And by the way, postgame, he absolutely killed the grasping
of the emotions from pregame to you know, the injury,
to the actual celebration of a win. But Judy, you
were there the following day with the Jets moving forward. Now,
(43:18):
what is kind of the feeling is that, Okay, everybodbody
else you have to gird Zach or is he really
our guy?
Speaker 13 (43:26):
I don't know if they're talking themselves into it, but yesterday,
which was the first time that the team was gathered
since then, you know, he is their guy and they're
going to line up behind him. Frankly, they don't really
have much of a choice.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
He's right now.
Speaker 13 (43:39):
He is certainly their best option. He knows the offense,
he's been there, and they all talked about how improved
he has been since OTA's and training camp. So I
think the message had come from Sala, like, Okay, you
had like the forty eight hours to sort of mourn
this injury, and now you've got the Dallas Cowboys and
you've got sixteen games and you're one to zero, and
so it's time to get ready. With Zach Wilson. You know,
(44:03):
Dalvin Cook, who is like basically the newest member of
the New York Jets. I thought I had the most
interesting balance of emotions because he was a little bit wistful.
He said he had come there hoping to get a
handoff from eight, he said, from a great Obviously that's
not going to happen this year. But then he said,
like Zach knows, we've got his back, like we've all
got to play better for Zach. And then he talked
(44:25):
again about how much confidence he has, which is a
big thing for the Jets because last year that was
a shattered quarterback and so the fact that he's got
confidence in himself and that the team around him has
confidence him is a big, big deal if this is
going to work.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Yeah, Mike, I want to ask you about that shattered quarterback.
Have the Jets looked elsewhere. Yet I'm assuming that started
and he'd look at a backup, a veteran backup. What
are their options around Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Yeah, backup is.
Speaker 11 (44:58):
The key word, because they don't want to bring anybody
that anybody else would be clamoring for, any of the
fans would be clamoring for. They want to make it
clear that Zach Wilson's got a clear runway here, So
any of the options would be uninspiring for the starting extent,
but not that there are any inspiring ones. Jet Sores
told me here immediately, Zach Wilson gives us the best
chance to win, so they definitely want to make sure
(45:20):
that he's got his right mind about him. Right now,
they're going to elevate Tim Boyle from the practice squad.
They've got three elevations that they're allowed to do before
they have to add him to the roster permanently. So
wouldn't be surprised if Zach Wilson is the only quarterback
on the active roster, perhaps for the next couple of
weeks while they bounce Boiled back and forth, and then
maybe add another long term sinus.
Speaker 4 (45:40):
All right, Michael Judy, we know you guys are on
the clock, So look to Mike Gara follow for talking
through the sound checks. That is a very difficult part
of the things that we have to do. So props
my brother Judy great cooms at credit cale dot com
slash Batista, So make sure to check out the column
on the Jets' future and JP that Aaron Rodgers' injury
has sparked a new conversation about artificial turf versus grass.
(46:04):
So when we come back on the NFL report, what's
it going to be like underguy's feet.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Well before it.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
Back in the NFL report, and Aaron Rodgers' injury sparked
another huge debate, JP, and that is to turf or
to have natural grass. As the NFL PA came out
and said that all fields should be natural grass. David Botiari,
the left tackle for the Packers during the game, said,
this is another incident of artificial turf leading to an injury.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
But JP, we've heard the discussion. We know it's not
going to happen.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
There are some teams that are just not going to
put in natural grass. It could be to climate, it
could be to a dome.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
There's no natural.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
Grass going in Mercedes Benz in Atlanta or the super
Dome in New Orleans. So this is going to be
a continued debate, James, And so to tell people really
about it, we're thinking about stadiums a lot when it
comes to artificial term for grass.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
But this is practice.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
Fields, this is indoor facilities as well. There's a lot
more to it than just natural grass at stadiums.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
I was at Broncos when Russell Wilson talked about this
this week and it was actually, I don't know, maybe
it's a rarity, a very honest moment from Russell Wilson
where he took a stance Dave.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
He had an opinion.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
He said, specifically practice He wants to be on grass
fields for his ankles, for his knees. He brought up
the indoor facility that the Broncos have and it's a
newer endoor facility that they have. And if that doesn't
show you the way veteran players that we talk to
Steve around the league feel about indoor practice facilities. Usually
if there's weather or something that happens, the team has
to go indoors. There is every veteran on the team
(47:51):
that is throwing on the sneakers and they are like,
I am done for today. I am doing a walkthrough.
That is the extent of what I'll do on this
indoor practice facilit That's usually what happens yep, during the week.
It's funny that that's their thinking, right Steve. But at
the same time, then on Sunday they're going to go
out and play on a turf field. And you brought
this up earlier their first instance into the NFL as
(48:13):
a young prospect, that the NFL combine is on what surface.
Speaker 4 (48:16):
It is not on natural grass, it is on turf,
I mean, and that's part of it. And this is
where Joe Burrow, JP and you were talking about this
when he came out to if we're going to have turf,
it should be universal turf at all of those sites idea,
And speaking with the NFL, it is up to each
individual team on which turf manufacturer they want to use
for their stadiums and for their practice facility.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
So that is a good idea by Joe Burrow. Why
don't you elaborate.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Yeah, I love that Joe came up with that idea,
considering he's a guy that's also had an ACL in
the past, right, and also is somebody that spends a
lot of time on the turf depending on how his
offensive line plays. But having a universal turf from field
to field, at least in his mind, would give players
an understanding of what they're going to be playing on
and a knowledge before they get to that game on
(49:03):
what playing surface they're going to be playing on. But
again we'll find out if that happens. There's a lot
that goes on in these stadiums moving forward in different
types of events, monster trucks, all sorts of stuff. Steve,
it was a pleasure. I'm going to see you Monday.
We'll recap some Week two games on the NFL Report.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
See you guys on Monday,
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