NFL REPORT: Mike Tomlin Angry or Stoic + Josh Allen Excited

On today’s episode of The NFL Report, Steve Wyche and James Palmer discuss how the 3-1 Cowboys might really be that good, what changes Mike Tomlin might be ready to make in Pittsburgh, and the Ravens' continued improvement on offense. Cam Wolfe joins us to discuss the Bills' dominance over the Dolphins and why Miami couldn’t stop Josh Allen and Stefon Diggs. Sherree Burruss is here to talk about the Eagles and their second consecutive 4-0 start. Steve and James will also talk about the other 4-0 team, the 49ers, Christian McCaffrey, and Brock Purdy. Jeff Chadiha joins us to discuss First Read article and dives into the Bengals issues, the turmoil in Chicago, Mac Jones getting benched, and CJ Stroud’s impressive start in Houston. Plus, find out who stood out the most in week 4! 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
It's the NFL Report Week four edition.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
I've Seve White you is my guy, James Palmer, And
after that game Sunday night, JP, I think I am
more swift Fer than swift Tea. Not really sold on
all of the shots of Taylor Swift, but what a
great game we did see Sunday night between the Jets
and the Chiefs. Kansas City eked out for the dub.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Big time. Steve. It's so interesting.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
We're just seeing shot after shot of Taylor Swift walking
through a security line at MetLife and everything. Every Twitter
account Taylor Swift's at the game and standing right behind
her is like Blake Lively, you Jackman, Brian Reynolds.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
No mention of.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
These megastars by any stretch of the imagination. As they
walk in to MetLife, it is just Taylor Swift or
bus because she is directly connected to those Kansas City Chiefs.
And we'll get into it a little bit later with
Jeff Chidia as we break down this Chiefs team where
we've told up before with him about how good this
defense has been, maybe one of the best we've seen
in Mahomes's time in Kansas City. But we're also seeing

(01:07):
them work through some of these growing pains with all
these young pieces around Patrick Mahomes during training camp, I
kept hearing Steve it was like Skymore is going to
take a jump, and mvs' is year two of the
system is going to take a jump and all of
these It just hasn't happened or clicked entirely as an
offensive unit, Yester yet. And you also have two new
tackles as part of this as well.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah, that's clearly one of those tackles has been an
issue as we saw some more penalties get called on
him last night on the right side. But James, again,
I think defenses are playing the Chiefs differently. This was
like a couple like last year when they had to
adjust to a couple things. How defenses are playing them differently.
And here's something I thought about last night with the way,
I mean, the Jets just really gave them a lot

(01:48):
of trouble on both sides of the balls. We saw
Zach wilsoner quarterback play well. For as much as we
want to malign Nate Hackett, the Jets offensive coordinated for
the job he did his head coach with the Broncos.
He did have the game plan against the Chiefs twice
last season, so he may have had something in his
pocket and understanding the Chiefs personnel, some of their principles

(02:10):
and what they like to do when he went into
game plan. Maybe that's why Zach Wilson played fairly well.
I thought he played really well. I mean, maybe Aaron
Rodgers being there made HI feel a little bit better.
I mean, who knows, but I thought he played really well.
But the fact that Kansas City James seems to have
an answer for everything, like Isaiah Pacheco, you know, and
Patrick Mahomes running when he has to, They're just so

(02:33):
tough to beat when their defense, as you mentioned, is.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Playing this well.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Certain teams know how to win, Steve, we're gonna get
into that when we talk about Philadelphia, talk about the Niners,
some other teams in the NFC. We're gonna break those down.
Sherry Burriss was at that Eagles commander's game. We're gonna
talk to her. She'll be on the show. Cameron Wolfe's
gonna talk about that big showdown that happened at Orchard
Park between the Bills and the Dolphins. But let's start
off with America's team.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
I hate to use that term.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
But I just did the Dallas Cowboys, Steve, they get
a bounce back when over Bill Belichick and the New
England Patriots, the worst defeat of Bill Belichick's tenure with
the New England Patriots losing thirty eight to three. Your
initial thoughts on this one, because what we have seen
one of the identities of the Cowboys are when they
have a bad loss, and they've had a couple of

(03:18):
them under Mike McCarthy, they do bounce back and play
really well and put a lot of points on the
board in the next week.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, we saw Week three, they had the tough loss
against Arizona. No one really saw that coming. But here's
the ultimate tale of what Dallas thought about what they
did to the Patriots. I reached out to somebody with
the Cowboys Monday morning. I was like, man, that was
just a virtuoso defensive performance. The text I got back,
big game coming up this week.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
They're already onto the forty nine ers.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Their attitude was almost like that shell lacking of the
Patriots was almost a throwaway game, like, Okay, we came
out there, we buzzed through them. Now let's move on
to the forty nine er. We're gona talk about that
little later on, but just think about this. They made
Mac Jones look absolutely terrible, and I know all the
New England is like, get rid of Mac Jones, get
rid of this guy. The Cowboys are going to do

(04:10):
that to teams. Their defense is that good. They're gonna
want to make you fire your head coach because they
are going to stifle your offense. But jp they got
two more defensive touchdowns. They have four defensive touchdowns on
the year, another in the return game five non offensive touchdowns.
This reminds you of two years ago when their defense
had eight defensive touchdowns and they had a couple of

(04:31):
touchdowns in the return game. If they continue to play
this well on that side of the ball, Oh, that
game against the forty nine ers, which they are so
focused in on, is going to be something special.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
They are beyond focused in it.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
They didn't just start really, I would think honestly after
halftime Steve for that game on Sunday against the Patriots.
I got a text from one of the coaches this
morning that said in Dallas, that said, we've had this
game circled since.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
The end of last season. I mean, that's the way
they felt.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Remember the forty nine Ers ended their season last year
and the year before, and this has happened.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
I don't know if people at home know this.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
But if you're in a game, you're like on the
Dallas Cowboys sideline, and you're going through a blowout of
a team like they did with the New England Patriots,
and you have an opponent coming up the next week
like they have circled with the San Francisco forty nine Ers,
the mindset steve switches in game for some.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Playoffs, doesn't it.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Guys like Micah Parsons already turned the key before they
even hit the locker room.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
As we're on to the forty nine ers.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
The entire postgame press conference or anybody speaking in the
locker room was talking about San Francisco, not talking about
the New England Patriots. That's where this team's mindset is
right now. That's wild. Michael Parson is calling it a
playoff game. Jerry Jones saying postgame that if we go
up and compete and beat the forty nine ers, that
will show everyone that we should be in the conversation
for a Super Bowl this year. That's how big these

(05:55):
guys are talking this game, is what I am concerned
about before we move on. That zone still is a problem, yep.
For the Dallas Cowboys. Four trips in there, one touchdown
is about a three yard run, I believe it is.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
It's not like the forty.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Nine Ers are incredible so far the season in the
red zone, but if you get down there against San Francisco,
you have to be able to convert in the red zone.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
You have to be able to score touchdowns. And just
real quick as you move on, JP, with the Cowboys
treating the Patriots like an afterthought, we are going to
discuss a little bit later on on if they actually
are an afterthought based on how they have come out
of the gate.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
All right, j P.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Let's move on.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Because we saw the Pittsburgh Steelers go down to Houston
and get slapped around. I mean, no one saw that
coming the way it happened, especially my head coach Mike Tomlin.
Here's what Tomlin had to say postgame about what's coming next.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
Hell yeah, we got to make some changes.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Man.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
That was an ugly product we put out there today,
and so we're not going to do the same things
and hope for a different outcome. What those changes are. Man,
we'll put together a plan in preparation this week.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Hmm, JP, when is the last time you've ever heard
Mike Tomlin make a public declaration like that about we
are going to be making changes. Look, we know JP,
the quarterback is going to change. Can He Pickett sustained
to knee injury. He's probably going to be out for
a little while. Based on some of the reports we've
heard from our insiders, he and Rappaport and Tom Pelasero,

(07:33):
this doesn't sound like it is an injury induced type
of change that Mike Tomlin is talking about.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yeah, he's only done this a very few times in
his career, Steve, and he has been extremely successful during
his entire tenure in San Francis. How many losing I
mean his tenure with Pittsburgh, how many losing seasons has
he had? That'd be zero for again, that'd be zero
that he's had. Now, they remember last year they made
some changes Minci's nobody really knew what they were after

(08:01):
their bye week, and that kind of helped them catapult
themselves into the postseason. The second half of the year,
they said they made some subtle tweaks, subtle changes. It
wasn't a declaration like we saw from Mike Tomlin right there,
and everybody's calling for Matt Canada's head the offensive coordinator.
You would think if something was to change, that would
have happened this offseason, right and that would have been

(08:22):
another offensive coordinator for your young quarterback and Kenny Pickett.
That would have also went against what we've seen in
the history of the Pittsburgh Steelers and the way they operate.
You don't usually change coordinators, Let's be honest, within a season.
I'm curious what they want to change. The two things
that I think are the biggest issues are a defense
that hasn't been able to stop the run. Against the

(08:42):
Houston Texans, I believe they ran the football.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Let's look at this.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
Thirty eight times or one hundred and thirty nine yards.
That team had struggled to run the football through their
first three weeks, and their inability to stick with the
run within their offense because the players in the locker
room post they came out of the remember they came
out of halftime and they ran the ball down the
throat of the Houston Texans Najie Harrison Company. And then

(09:05):
what happens, they get away from it again, and even
guys in the locker room were saying, we're not staying
consistent with the run game with Kenny Pickett and operating
in the play action. I feel like, Steve, you have
to stick with the run game if you are the
Pittsburgh Steelers and have a consistency in rhythm with your
run game, if you want this offense to click. To me,
that is essentially coaching on calling these plays in those instances.

(09:27):
What's your take on what you think could possibly change.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
It might not be the play caller, but it may
be a directive to the play caller to run the
damn ball. Stop putting pressure on our quarterback, who we
really don't know what he's made of, whether it's Mitch
Timiski the next couple weeks or Kenny Pickett when he
comes back, and run the football. Stick with it, like
you said, when it is working. This has been the

(09:51):
Steelers brand for decades. The ruinies will tell you, cold Weather,
run the football, stop the run. That's why we're always there.
Mike tom Lowhen he came out and said we're not
going to continue to do things the same way and
hoping that they work.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
That means we're gonna change. He's hot.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Like we said, he does not make public declarations like
this ever unless something is very serious. In JPU and
I both know last year you talked about some of
those subtle changes. Very similar things happened with the directive,
let's say, on what they needed to do offensively.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
What I remember, Steve, this is my last point on it,
that it's gone on with the offensive side of the ball.
There were some comments coming out of the locker room
after the win over the Raiders saying that in our
first two weeks when we had to put up a
game plan to stop Nick Bosa and to stop Miles Garrett,
we kind of lost a large chunk of our offense
because we were so focused on stopping those pass rushers.

(10:49):
There were things we weren't even going to do as
an offense. They kind of scrapped that in a sense
when they were going against Max Crosby. To me, that's
an interesting comment coming from guys on your offensive line
saying there's things that we just eliminated, large chunks of
our playbook that were gone because we're trying to accommodate
ways to stop these pass rushers. There's a lot you
can't do offensively if that's your main focus. That haends

(11:11):
to do with how you're developing this scheme and this
game plan. All right, let's move on to the other
team we want to evaluate, because this was kind of
teams that we were talking about last Thursday heading into
the quarter mark. Another team that we were going after
and looking at was the Baltimore Ravens. So far, we
have seen the Ravens go on the road against the

(11:32):
Bengals and win, go on the road against the Browns
in the division and win. They have a Week five
game on the road against the team we just mentioned,
the Steelers. They could be three to oh Steve on
the road in divisional games by Week five, and that
could be a tremendous advantage. After they beat the Browns
this past Sunday in the AFC North.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, think about that. I mean, they beat all those
teams on the road. They're going to get him back
in Baltimore later on in the season. To be able
to start your season like that while your offense is
still developing, right, this is hardly a finished product. We
know they've got a lot of injuries. I mean, Ronnie
Stanley still didn't play the starting left tackle Odell Beckham.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
He still hurt.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
We still don't know the full functionality of this offense,
which is why they kind of went back to what
they did, which was Mark Andrews from Lamar Jackson. Look
at this ball, those folks who are watching it, tell
I mean, just beautiful passes. Lamar only through the ball
nineteen times, but he ran the ball well.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
We saw some.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Different techniques and some of the things that they did
with the passing game to Andrews in the run game
with Lamar. But the fact that this offense can explode
like that against this defense now again, Cleveland gave them
three interceptions and I think another turnover right there to
shortens and fields. But the fact that they could hang
twenty eight to three on a Browns defense that was

(12:54):
absolutely dominant. I mean, it's kind of frightening saying with
the potential with this offense can be while they're still
working out a lot of the kings.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
JP.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
We were talking at the top of the show right
about teams that know how to win. I think the
hardball teams know how to win a lot of times
in situations, and I think you're right we do have
to look at this situation with a bit of a
caveat going I myself even reported everybody, including Deshaun Watson,
the Browns were confident that the pregame workout was gonna
go well and he was going to play in that game.
That is a late scratch for Deshaun Watson, which really

(13:27):
put the Browns in a hole. But a banged up
offensive line, as you mentioned, the injuries a little bit
to be able to hold tough against this Brown's defensive front,
I think shows a lot of toughness and like we mentioned,
to get out to this start dealing with the injuries
that they've been dealing with. Gonna start getting guys back
in the next few weeks on both sides of the ball.
This could be a fantastic advantage for the Baltimore Ravens

(13:47):
if they'd win that game in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
After Week five, coming up.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
With more on the NFL report, We're gonna have boots
on the ground. Sherry Burst was at that thriller and
overtime between the Eagles and the Commanders, as well as
Cameron Wolf right after this talking about the game of
the week. We thought it was going to be between
the Bills and the Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Bills showed us they are still contenders.

Speaker 6 (14:11):
Coming up more on the NFL Report.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Cook in the backfield, Allen back to pass, Gonna roll.

Speaker 7 (14:25):
To his right, steps up cross the Diggs for a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Eleven yard touchdown reception.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Took the loan stepback play action passed as time pros
to the left sideline, complete the Diggs, but there's a
flag tinna spin away.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
From the tacklers that he does thirty five.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Thirty twenty five, twenty headed to the end zone.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Touchdown step five Diggs.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Fifty five yards to paydirts.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Holy moly, digs by himself on the left side.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Here's the snap, takes the handoff to Murray to the inside.
It's a try Christophon Diggs thirteen yard touchdown reception.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Can you dig it?

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Can you Stefan digs it?

Speaker 4 (15:17):
We are now welcome on the NFL Report by Cameron
Wolf Cam Steve I. We were talking before we had
cam on off camera. You called it, Cam, you called it.
The big boss of the AC East is still the
Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Forty eight to twenty right.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
Hold that high power Dolphins offense that drops seventy on
the Broncos a week ago down to twenty points, which
I think everybody would say is a phenomenal effort. Knowing
that the offense just giving up twenty, it's like giving
up three to most other offenses. Cam, what did you see?
What did you predict? Give yourself a pat on the back.

Speaker 8 (15:53):
Yeah, James, I'm a big fan of the wire. And
there's a saying from the wark you come at the games.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
I missed right, It's not missed.

Speaker 8 (16:00):
The Bills have long been the kings of this AFC East,
and the Dolphins have been the hot team.

Speaker 9 (16:06):
They scored seventy points.

Speaker 8 (16:07):
Everybody's crowning them, and I think the Dolphins are well
on their way to being a playoff team. But this
was a check mark, and we talked about this on
this platform Thursday. This was a checkpoint to see were
they ready to overtake the Bills, and we saw Sunday
they were not. The Bills had a statement to make
of their own, and it was very interesting seeing the
game plan the Bills had for Tua and the Dolphins offense.

(16:30):
We saw all the motion they did, all the speed,
the seventy points. The Bills went back with a good
old fashioned physicality, punch you in your mouth. They beat
them in the trenches. They had four sacks onto a
nine quarterback hits. Tua came in with one sack over
three games, and so the whole thing about the Dolphins
offense is we're going to get the ball out quickly.
You got to get credit to Sean McDermott. They messed

(16:50):
up their timing. Matt Mlano and Bernard had a really
good game in the middle. They did not take the
bait on the motion with Tyreek Hill over the middle
of the field, and they really showed the Dolphins that
they had the personnel to be able to cover their
receivers Tyreek Hill and Jalen Wadlin. So they're gonna have
another chance. The Dolphins will at the end of the season.
But I thought it was very interesting. After the game,

(17:12):
Tua said this was a humbling performance and it was
something they needed. And the Bills are doing this motion
on their face that all day because that's what the
Dolphins had coming off their team plane. And so the
Bills feel like they got the upper hand and they're
still the Kings of the AFCs.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
I love the wire reference.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
One of my favorite reference is one of my favorite
memes that I like to use on social media. But
I also like the fact you point out the physicality,
because the one thing about all of the schemes from
this coaching tree other than Kyle Shanahan, whether it's the Bengals,
the Rams, some of those teams teams know if you

(17:49):
hit them in the mouth enough times, these finesse teams,
so to speak, might not be able to hang.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
But you also talked about the strategy.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
What about what Ruffalo did to have such a great
connection with Josh Allen and Stefan Diggs.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
I mean three tds for Digs.

Speaker 9 (18:08):
Yes, Steve, that.

Speaker 8 (18:09):
Was probably one of the best games I've seen of
Josh Allen of his career. And what you mentioned with
Stefan Diggs is so interesting because coming into the game,
Dolphins defensive coordinator Vic Vangio said they had a scheme,
and their scheme was not going to follow Stefan Diggs
with their top corner xaviing Howard and then Ken Dorsey,
the Bills offensive coordinator, drew up an excellent plan. They
made sure every chance they could they were going to

(18:30):
get Stefan Diggs on Cater Kohu.

Speaker 9 (18:32):
The Dolphins second year corner who's usually in the slot.

Speaker 8 (18:34):
He had to play outside corner because Jalen Rams is
injured and Diggs, as we see on these highlights, was
abusing him all day. Six catches, one hundred and twenty yards,
three touchdowns. They moved Stefan Dicks in motion like the
Dolphins do in their motion to make sure they get
those one on one coverages against them, and Digs exploided them.
I think a lot of times we forget how good
the Josh Allen thinks combo is because of sometimes there's

(18:57):
some drama. Steph can get a little bit of motion
nor at times. But when they're on like they were
on Sunday, they are one of the best duos in football.
And they really explored vic Vango's d They did not adjust,
they did.

Speaker 9 (19:10):
Not put extra help on Digs.

Speaker 8 (19:12):
They did not put Exavin Howard on Diggs, and that
was a big mistake and Josh Allen really exploited them.
One other thing that I thought was very interesting, they
established the front on their offensive line as well. They
slowed down the defensive front of the Dolphins and they
did not get home to Josh Allen. And they also
were able to get that play action game off. Josh
Allen killed them in the play action because they had
to stay honest with the run game.

Speaker 9 (19:33):
And so the.

Speaker 8 (19:34):
Bills once again are the big boss of the AFC's
and they proved it really dominating and bullying.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Them on both us of all super quickly. Cam, is
that a blueprint what the Bills did to isolate?

Speaker 8 (19:46):
You know, digs, if you have the digs, if you
have a digs, yes, I mean not a lot of
teams have a digs.

Speaker 9 (19:52):
But hopefully Vic Vangel adjusts.

Speaker 8 (19:55):
That's the thing that you know, he's a very good
defensive coordinator, but he's also a guy who's won his way,
and so a lot of times those guys, they do
their style, do their scheme. When they came into the season,
they thought Jalen Ramsey and Xavin Howard are going to
be on a less side and the right side. You
don't have to move either of those guys. But no,
Jalen Ramsey, you have to adjust. I hope that he
had just gone forward for that.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
Guys, just raise your hand if you're just kind of
happy this outcome happened. Because I believe in this offseason
and through training camp, the entire world just kind of
either rode off for God, moved on from the Buffalo
Bills for whatever reason, and Josh Allen put himself back
in that MVP conversation. I love can that we've seen
him actually using his legs less, taking fewer hits, which

(20:37):
he's wanted to do the last couple of years and
actually is able to do it so far this season,
and outside of that Jets debacle, the offense hasn't missed
a beat, right, they'd still been very effective as an offense,
very effective on Sunday, even with him not taking as
many hits.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Can appreciate it by it.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
And taking over.

Speaker 9 (20:54):
And Von Miller should be coming back Soon's a big
time yep, yep.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Von Mill right on the corner. Let's go. This is
what he wanted. Dude down the stretch. Appreciated camp you
see anybuddy, Well, listen to this, Steve.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
We have our second international matchup this week and it
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It's the Jags at Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium in London, a
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plus dot NFL dot com. All right, now we are

(21:24):
welcomed in by Sherry Burris, who Cherry was at Commanders
Eagles overtime.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Sherry, take us to.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
The sideline, the Eagles sideline and Jalen Hurts, because I'm fascinated.
You spend a lot of time being a sideline reporter
at all these different college and pro games. Like what
did you observe from Jalen Hurts on the sideline?

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Well, it was so interesting.

Speaker 10 (21:51):
You know, we were able to go down on the
field with two minutes left in regulation. I kind of
was watching the Commander side, but then realizing that they'd
have the ball last I litch really sprinted through the
end zone. So the Eagles fans, if they're watching, they'll
know what I was doing to get to the other side.
And the tension on that Eagles sideline as Washington was driving,
you could just feel it like there was a belief

(22:13):
that the Eagles were going to hang on, but there
was that sliver of like maybe Washington will tie the game.
So as we're getting set for overtime, I was just
tracking Jalen Hurts. He was pacing at a towel over
his head, but his facial expression, his.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Emotions really they weren't really even there.

Speaker 10 (22:29):
I mean, he was very even, Stephen even keel. If
I was just watching him, guys, I wouldn't know if
this was the first quarter, the fourth quarter, overtime. He
was just very steady the entire time until the offense
went back out there.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
So, Sherry, you know, we saw you. They go out there,
they drive, they get the.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Field goal, eventually win it in overtime, and the Eagles
are four and oh. And it's so weird because all
you're hearing about the Eagles is they still don't look right.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
You said to me earlier we were prepping for the show.
It feels like a weird four and oh. Four and
oh is four and oh to me in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
But why does it still seem like these aren't the
Eagles you know that we know of last year.

Speaker 10 (23:11):
I wonder, Steve if it's because we are so used
to the Eagles being the juggernaut and blowing teams out
and there being no question if the Eagles are going
to win a game. They were trailing in this one.
This was the first game Washington had a lead going
into the half if you could believe it. So the
fact that the Eagles are having to come from behind.
It was this week Nick Sirianni is saying, they've won

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each game this season a different way, and that's showing
the character. It's building trust and resilience throughout this team.
And if you talk to a bunch of different guys,
they'll just tell you they're all still works in progress,
which is a little frightening. I would have to imagine
the fact that they are one of two teams right
now that are four and oh, they are the defending
NFC champions, and they still feel like they have progress,

(23:53):
like they need to get better. We aren't seeing the
impressive stats from jaln this year. He didn't have any
turnovers against Washing but three interceptions in the first three games,
which is not usual Jalen. He is still one of
the top rushing qbs, but there are so many questions
about the run game and his arm and you know,
has he taken this step back? But you're right, four
and Oh is four and oh. But I think most

(24:15):
of you know, some of these teams that we expect
to do really well, they almost like being sort of
off the radar. Not maybe an on the radar team,
but something I'd love to be able to ask the
Eagles that they're okay with this not being, you know,
picked to win the Super Bowl right this second. But
it is interesting that it's it's a quiet four and
O If that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
I love to share that. You bring up the character
of the Philadelphia Eagles. And this is what stands out
to me most about this win. That phenomenal deep ball
that Jalen Hurts connects with AJ Brown on he gets
flagged for the taunting penalty in the end zone, and
that drive that ended with Zeros on the clock to
send the game into overtime was only sixty four yards
because of that AJ Brown penalty. What fascinates me and

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makes me realize some teams just know how to win
is the conversation that Aj Brown and Jalen Hurts had
immediately after that touchdown. It wasn't celebrating we took the
lead in the closing minutes of the game. It was
you can't have a penalty like that, Aj. That's best friend,
a best friend telling you you can't put us in
that spot. That's Jalen Hurts, one of the leaders of
this team. This Steve doesn't show up in the box

(25:24):
score about how you manage your entire sideline and manage
your roster. You find a way to make sure those
mistakes don't happen. They got away with it in this one,
and aj Brown was accountable after the game.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
About the position he put his team in.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
But I just think when you have that type of
leadership Steve on the sideline in game and the wherewithal
to bring that up in game to know the importance
of it. Him and Kelsey Hurts and Kelsey halftime also
made a big part, I'm told in how this game
proceeded in the second half because of the penalties and
issues in the first half. We mentioned, as Cherry at
the top of the show, I hope you were watching

(25:58):
or listening. Team just know how to find ways to win,
and the Eagles did it in the Friday ways in
this one.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
All right, great point, JP, Sherry, thank you so much,
really really good stuff.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Now go hug up that cute little daughter yours.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
You know one team when you talk about leadership issues
and knows how to win.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
It's another four and old four and oh team.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
And I'm talking about the San Francisco forty nine ers
right out JP. The forty nine ers, I mean we're
looking at their them against the Arizona Cardinals. Christian McCaffrey
going skeets. Neamaya, former world champion hurdler who also played
for the forty nine, is hurtling someone into the end
zone on a swing.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Here he is on a short run. This is one
of they had.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
He had four rushing touchdowns. This was just offensive wizardry.
I mean, they didn't do anything extra dynamic other than
just great performances. But JP, we heard last week we
had safety Talano Hufanga on the show.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
They wanted to get out of the gate quickly.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
They wanted to be in mid season form week one
because they didn't want any early season losses to come
back and bite him down the road for playoff seating
things like that. They want the playoffs to come through
Levi Stadium. They're in Santa Clara.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
When you look.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
At the forty nine Ers, let's say, juxtaposed to the
Eagles who are still working on things and the Chiefs
who are still working through some things, and maybe in a.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Team like the Bills, I mean, what are you seeing.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Out of this team that just seems so good in
every facet of the game.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
What I'm seeing is a quarterback that doesn't make mistakes.
He went twenty of twenty one. Yeah you heard me right,
yea twenty one on the game. A quarterback that gets
this entire offense going, and a creative offensive mind that
has every weapon you could imagine to go out there
and beat you with Steve, And I think that's what

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stands out to me the most. Christian McCaffrey was the one.
I mean, Christian McCaffrey played so well in this game.
He put himself in the MVP conversation. So, yeah, sixteen
first downs by himself, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Nine rushing, seven receiving.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
That's crazy to think of that, and to think of
that combat with event that George Kittle had one target,
one catch, Deebo Samuel had zero.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Targets in this game.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
Now, I don't think that's going to be the case
against the Cowboys next Sunday. But when you have the
ability to be this dominant and have dominant players like
the two I just mentioned not even really be included
in terms of how you were attacking a team, doesn't
mean they weren't included in this offense. We know what
they do in other aspects of this offense with their
physicality as well. But you have the ability to lean

(28:36):
on different players in different instances, in different games. I
think we need to be talking about now. I remember
doing this game against the Chiefs last year. It was
Christian McCaffrey's first game his arrival with the San Francisco
forty nine ers. Is there a better player in your mind, Steve,
for a better system fit than Christian McCaffrey With Kyle Shanahan, you.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Know what, I'll sell you this for the running back position, however,
and this is where I think Christian McCaffrey's value has
been totally understated.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
I think he's opened things up for Kyle Shanahan.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Sand I've got a running back who's got track speed, who.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Runs physically tougher.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
He runs physically tougher in San Francisco than he did
in Carolina Point. And that's a mandate when you play
for Kyle Shanahan. And to me again, their Hall of
Fame running back coach Bobby Turner, if you play that position,
you better finish runs that snap people's head back when
you're hitting them in the.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Chest or something like that.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
So the physicality has the receiving aspect that he had.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
He could throw it too, right. We see him throw
a touchdown, so.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
I think he's I think he has expanded the offense
to a point where Kittle was probably thrilled to death
to be blocking for him downfield. We saw one of
those touchdown debo cleaning up a dB so McCaffrey can
get into the ends.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
I think they love that because he is such a threat.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
And the fact that we can be talking about a
running back in an off season that we've had with
conversation about running backs as a potential MVP.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
I'm all about it, all about it, you right.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
That's a great point. That's great.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Trent Williams was saying this after the game, saying, I
knew he was a good back.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
I knew he was versatile.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
I didn't know he could pound the football between the
tackles and be as physical as an eye formation type
of back if you wanted him to be. And the
other point I'll make is since brock Party became the quarterback,
Brandon Nyuk, Steve oh Yeah has catapulted onto the scene.
Another monster game for the wide receiver for the San
Francisco forty nine ers. All right, that's wrapping up a
couple of teams that are undefeated. What a lot of

(30:33):
roses and a lot of smiles in San Francisco and Philadelphia.
How about when we come back, Steve, the teams that
are on the other side of the spectrum. If you
have a friend that's a Bears fan, oh I'm a
hug today, just show him some love.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Again.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
We're going to break down the absolute mess that's going
on in Chicago as well as Cincinnati. We're going to
be joined by Jeff Shadilla coming up on the NFL Report.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Well back at the NFL Report, and it's time for
our regular Monday First Read segment, and for that we
bring in Jeff Shadea whose column First Read is on
nfl dot com slash first Read. How about that three
first read references in about the first ten seconds of
the bot Jeff hideah, oh, just good to hear it.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, I know you are, hey man, make it happen.
And it's really good.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
You got so much good stuff in there, you know,
But we have to hit the negative. It's just that
time because we see the Cincinnati Bengals, right, a team
that I think most of us still believe in just
because of all the talent they have. But right, I mean,
they got smoked by the Titans this week. This is
a team you know that's gotten well, teams have gotten

(31:47):
well against in the Tennessee Titans. What is actually going
on in Cincinnati? I mean, it's just Joe Burrow's calf
is the way defenses are playing their offense differently because
they are not functioning right now.

Speaker 11 (32:00):
Well, it's a little bit of both. And you look
at last year when they started zero to two. The
problem they had then was that Joe Burrow was trying
too hard to make plays down the field.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
They want.

Speaker 9 (32:10):
You mentioned the talent, they wanted to make.

Speaker 11 (32:12):
Those big plays, and they had to start taking what
teams were giving them. I think Joe Burrow's calf is
a real problem for them. He saw it two weeks
ago against the Rams and how limited he was. He
looked better this week, but again, they really can't do
a lot under center with him. They really can't push
the ball down the field. Play action is such a
huge part of their offense as far as creating those

(32:33):
big plays, and that's not available to them with him.
Dealing with this calf strain, so it's a lot going
off for them. And Tennessee always seems to have games
like this early in the year where they they got
the Chiefs one year, a few years ago they got
the Rams when they were riding high in their bow year.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
They will get teams if they're not ready to play football.

Speaker 11 (32:50):
But I do believe the Bengals have enough talent and
enough pedigree to overcome this and get back into the
playoff race.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
I do think, Jeff, we are we're in a bit
of an interesting spot. I was with the Bengals early
in the season. It was what Week one, it was
on the weather. Week two, it was wow, Joe Burrow
wasn't there throughout the entire preseason, entire preseason and training camp.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
We're gonna We've been here before. Zero to two. We're
gonna be fine. Look at us.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
Week three it was against the Ramss. Well least the
second half. The offense started to get a little bit better.
We're back on track. And now it was like this
time after this game, though, Steve, it was a little
bit the frustration was boiling over. It was a little
bit of we're gonna be okay early on and now
it looks like with guys like Jamar Chase and company
are are a little bit frustrated. What stands out to

(33:36):
me is teams are blitzing Joe Burrow to a higher rate,
vastly higher rate than they did a year ago, obviously
because he can't move. He is a much better athlete
than probably a lot of people give him credit for
in terms of the ability to throw in the run,
the ability.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
To escape pressure.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
He has been pressured like thirty five percent of his
dropbacks and he has the second lowest time to throw
the football. There's been some changes on that offensive line,
and maybe that's another edition of this Steve that is playing,
you know, rearing its head in a sense to where
he hasn't had a whole lot of time and he
can't move.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Just speaking of time, what's the deal.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
They have not scored an offensive touchdown in the first
half all season.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
That's a staggering That is a staggering stat to me.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

Speaker 11 (34:20):
Yeah, and really, you know, it's I think James Bit's
a good point. You know, even though most of the
corp is still there, I think especially on defense, because
Tennessee is not an explosive offensive safety. I think they
miss von Bell. I think they missed Jesse Bates. I
think they're more athletic in the back end. But you're

(34:42):
not seeing them take control of games. And I say this,
you know again living in Kansas City, I see it
with the Chiefs. They're going through their own offensive struggles
right now, but the defense is stepping up. You see
that with the Jets. Zach Wilson is not getting done
last last night. They step up with the defense. They
got to get some plays from somebody else. Can't wait
till Joe gets better and everything it will start going

(35:03):
in the right direction. It's a team game. They got
good players. Other guys have to start doing more.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
All right, jee All.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
Right, Jeff, you've been covering this league for a long time. Steve,
you've been covering this league for a very long time.
I want to ask both of you. With the Chicago Bears,
have you seen an organization in let's not say a
week's time, let's say an entire season, had their quarterback
come out talk about certain things in terms of coaching, his.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Opinion about what's happening to the offense.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
Then have to in the locker room speak again to
clarify his statements, then have a head coach say things
about Claypool w Chase Claypool about how things were going
to how things went down, about him not being at
the game on Sunday, and then then have to come
out with a statement when the writers are up in
the press box later.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
In the day.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
How many times have you seen teams have to go
back around and clarify communication errors within a season, in
a whole season. I think we've had three of them
with the Bears in one week.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Well, I can tell you this.

Speaker 11 (36:05):
You know, my first year covering in the NFL was
nineteen ninety six and they covered the Oakland Raiders. And
then my first year covering the team, John fought for
the defensive coordinator. He vanished in training camp. Anthony Smith
was the starting defensive end. He vanished in week four,
Whard he lost his job, and then by weeks by
seasons then Tim Brown was threatening to call the play
because he was so upset with the offense. So that's

(36:25):
my barn, That's that's what I consider. But the Bears
are getting close.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Right now, Oh my god, what's going on there?

Speaker 3 (36:32):
And it really is?

Speaker 11 (36:35):
Look, I do start to fear for people's jobs at
this stage, because after the way Kansas City beat them down,
and after blowing that, you know, twenty one point lead
against the Denver Broncos, they're not in a good place.
And we were talking about Chase Claypool having a stay
away from the facility. I don't know what he's doing
or what he's saying, but that to me is a

(36:55):
huge red flag about what's happening in the locker room
and how people are feeling about Justin Yield as a quarterback.
But but again, Steve, you know this, It's like when
when teams come in and you have a young quarterback
and draft at high so you feel that the need
to build the offense around it. But you have a
defensive minor head coach, and so you got to find
a way to get that side of the football going.

(37:15):
They've just been all over the place. And when that happens,
and at least at the top of the food chain,
it affects everything.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Sooner or later, what's the adversity hits.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
And and you know what, it's It's funny because yesterday,
for most of that game, Justin Fields was playing the game.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Of his life.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
He looked unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
He looked fantastic. Right, he's the best player on the field. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Their defense, their defense looked like they actually had a
clue and you know, how to stop somebody. And then
of course it was like, okay, how are we not
going to lose this one?

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Too late?

Speaker 2 (37:43):
You blinked, you lose the ball game. But to get
back to James's point, this is a bigger issue what's
going on with the Bears, because it's funny, you know,
are the draft, everybody was ballyhooing their draft. Now we're
saying these guys can't play. Now people are you know,
there's whiskers off. Maybe Ryan Pole's got into this as
a general manager a couple of years too early. Matt
Ebraflus is not the guy. And when you start seeing

(38:05):
things like these clarifications, you have to make Yeah, Jeff
and I we've been covering this game for decades. And Jeff,
by the way, my bar is the Bobby Petrino year
in Atlanta. After the dog fighting scandal, Patrino quits in
the middle.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Of the season.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
We had all kind of chaos, We all kind of
chaos going on with that team.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
But again, not being in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
I can feel the constant churning of guts from all
the way out here in Los Angeles, like.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
It is not good.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
And like you said, this latest thing Matt Evenflus, the
head coach, came out Monday saying Chase Claypool has been
told not to be with the team all week because
we have a Thursday night game. They haven't suspended him, right,
So whatever is going on there is real peculiar. But again,
we're probably not going to find out the real story

(38:56):
until they do another mia culpa or slash clarification.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Based on the way things are going.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
I almost feel bad for people now because they can't
get their stories straight. You know who always gets a
story straight, Jeff Bill Belichick. Right, he benches his quarterback
during a shelaking a thirty eighth to the Sheilaki by
the Dallas Cowboys with the Patriots yesterday. He says Mac
Jones was he benched. Wides felt it was best for

(39:22):
him just not to be in there. It was almost like,
we don't want to get our guy killed because this
isn't going well and we want to pretend. I don't know,
but you know, we talked about the Bills early in
the show, how good they're playing. We know the Dolphins
are really good, and the Jets actually show the signs
of life Sunday night life. The Patriots, Jeff, I mean,
we've we've held on for years now since Brady. Well,

(39:43):
they're in the Patriots, they'll be there. I don't think
anyone can say that right now because they don't look
like they have any playmakers or any real idea of
how to work themselves out of a jam.

Speaker 11 (39:55):
Now, and they're really you know, for so many years
when Brady was there, there was the belief of we
can just find certain guys, fit him into our scheme,
coach him up, and we'll get great results. And they
still operate that way, and Bill still operates that way.
And the reality of it is, the teams that are
winning consistently year in and year out right now have

(40:17):
a lot of good players. They have playmakers, and they
have a really good defense. They've got players on that
side of the football. But Mac Jones is not a
quarterback who can get them over the top. They haven't
given him a great supporting cast to work with, and.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
It shows up each week.

Speaker 11 (40:32):
You know, I watched that Dallas Patriots game and it
was watching it was it was painful because he was
making decisions that you can't do. You can do him
if you're Josh Allen or if you're Patrick Mahone, right
you can roll to the right side of the field
and throw the football back to the left and think
you're gonna make something happen. You can't do it if
you're Mac Jones. And I understand how Bill felt, and
I've seen him do this before where he's pull players

(40:54):
and put him back in. But that team right now
is operating as if it's nineteen, if it's two thousand
and eight, and it's not.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
I look at the Caleb Williams article Jeff and GQ saying,
I don't want to go to the wrong organization.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
A I don't want to go to the really Arizona
Cardinals is what he's saying.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
What was mac Jones going through his mind when he
was drafting and walking with his straight arms across the
top of the top of the stage going to missionear.
He was probably going, I'm going to the Patriots. This
is phenomenal. And what if they given him now three
offensive coordinators in three years and honestly doing their opener
against the Philadelphia Eagles. Talking everybody up there that covers

(41:34):
the team on a daily basis, on a great, great
embedded beat, they were, like I was told, universally, I
don't think they have a whole lot of talent, and
that's been the problem, from skill position players to anchors
on that offensive line. And then your two most talented
guys on the defensive side of the ball go down
in that game on Sunday and Matthew Judon and the
talented rookie and Christian Gonzales.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
That's a big.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
Blow to a defense that you were going to hang
your hat on. It's been tough sledding for Mac Jones.
Maybe go talk to Kayla Williams just say, hey, organizations
can change very very quickly, and you know one that did.
The Houston Texans. Oh very We're gonna keep round on
the NFL Reporter as we talk about c J. Stroud
and Damico Ryans, what this young quarterback is doing in
four games?

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Historic Oh h NFL Report.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
I were back at the NFL Report, and as Leonardo
DiCaprio said in Django, you have my attention, that would
be you Houston Texans, Jeff Shediah, the Texans.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Whole things are gonna go from house. No, no, no,
we're just staying right there.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
C J.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Stroud, Jeff, what do you got? Oh?

Speaker 11 (42:54):
You know, I talked to a friend of mine, personnel
director about him last week and just raved about him
and just talked about just how clean he is mechanically
and just seeing the same things you saw.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
At Ohio State.

Speaker 11 (43:07):
Great process of information. But really the point he made,
which I think is appropriate, is that the Tectors has
done a great job of putting a good group around him.
You see the depth of their offensive line they've had
makeshift offensive line after makeshift offensive line, he still goes
out there and feels comfortable. Nice connection with Nico Collins
and James You know, it's nobody believed in this team,

(43:28):
but c J. Stroud from your Ohio State university is
proving to be the best chy quarterback in his class.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
He really is.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
And I'm going back to a couple of things that
I was told during the draft process about him, And
now it's a chance to see these four games, Jeff
and see them kind of come to light. Because you
mentioned that makeshift offensive line, he wasn't sacked by the Pitts.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
That's crazy. That was crazy.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
I couldn't believe that happened, right, And to me, I
go back and look at some of the stuff that's
got this said.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
You know themotion's a little bit funky. He's kind I
don't know, he's kind of a pusher of the ball.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
But I'm not saying that in a bad manner because
the ball is out quick, his motion is short, He's decisive,
he doesn't really hesitate. Steve don't all those things kind
of come together and culminate going I don't have a
whole lot of time back here, and I'm gonna make
a quick decision, and I'm not gonna make a bad decision.
That's the other part he's thrived in early on, but

(44:25):
to make sure the ball's out of his hands quickly.
To some of these guys, it's not like he lit
up the world against the Steelers, you know. I mean,
I think hat like a fifty percent completion percentage, but
going over three hundred yards again, it's he's not hurting
his team by any stretch. But he gets through the
ball quickly because he knows that this offensive line has
been littered with injuries. He plays this game, I believe
without Laramie Tunsel again, right, And so it's it's been

(44:47):
very impressive of what he's been able to do when
you've got a guy like TJ.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Watt bearing down at you.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
I mean, he's been so good and the fact they're
playing such complimentary football, it's almost like he's saying, I've
got to do my share. I mean, the kicking game
is has been very good, the defense has played very well.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
And I love love what he.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Said after the game, because they said all the Steelers
fans that were in the stadium and in our g stadium.
He was like, oh no, we're gonna make it so
people feel good about wearing the Texans brand gear around here.
That stuff that happened in the past doesn't fly with me.
That is music to the great football fans down in Houston,
Texas to say, now we have a quarterback who is

(45:26):
not only certain of himself, but he understands the importance
of this game and the way he is playing it.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
You talked about getting the ball out.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Quickly, them jet designing an offense to fit around him.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
It is a really really good setup.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
And when this offensive line comes back fully, I mean, I'm.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Kind of wondering where this thing can go.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
I mean, we need to start talking about them as
potential winners of this AFC South, the division we already
know is up for grass wincy Damian Pierce finally be
able to run the ball like he did yesterday too
against his defense. Guys, this is a dangerous team because CJ.
Shroud absolutely looks like the leader, Jeff. Once again, we
want to thank you NFL dot Com Slash First Read

(46:08):
Jeff Todia every Monday here on the first Read segment.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
That's right, CJ. Shroud did not get sacked.

Speaker 7 (46:15):
The boy did Aid and O'Connell, all because of one dude.
Calif Mack comes in with a half dozen of the
dirty dirty against the hated Raiders.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
What more we come back here on the NFL.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Welcome back to the NFL Report.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
As we closed things up, James Palmer, Steve Whitch with you,
we want to recognize one player that stood out to
each of us, Steve fire Away.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Well, you know, I think Khalil Mack hurt us really
propping up his teammate Tully to a below to last week,
the edge rusher who was getting all of the sacks
leading into this game. Because Khalil Mack comes up to
play the Las Vegas Raiders, a team that drafted him
but didn't want to pay him.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
He hits him with six sacks. I was at this game.
Six six sacks he's won away from Derek Thomas's record.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Not only that, ten tackles, five TFLs, four hurries, and
two forest fumbles.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
After the game, Raiders.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Had goa Josh mccaniel said, hey, we were chipping in,
we were doubling him.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Went back and looked at the tape. The answer to
that was no, you didn't not once.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Maybe that was in the intent JP, but Khalil Mack
reminded everybody he is still a dude.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
Six sacks he had. What do you got? JP?

Speaker 3 (47:42):
He had those six sacks with like twelve minutes to go.
It was a fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
It was insane. It's a time here.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
It was unbelievable. Listen.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
He didn't get the w But I was blown away
by the comeback that Anthony Richardson led in the Colts
attempt to take the down down twenty three to nothing
and comes back and comes back in this game and
never gets the football in overtime, which was a bit
of a shame because your guy Poka Nakua and Sam

(48:11):
and Matthew Stafford take care of business and overtime. But
seeing the calmness that Anthony Richardson had Steve seeing how
after the game he said, you know, and Aaron Donald's
a tremendous player. It took me a minute to figure out,
you know, how physical and how fast he is. To me,
that's a player that's really having things click very quickly.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Right.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
He goes, oh, I understand about what Aaron Donald does.
And then you see him what thirty eight yards Aaron
Donald draped all over him.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
He gets pierced down the sidelent for a brilliant pass.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
Like he was figuring things out, the physical ability he has.
I heard Matthew Stafford raving about him to Albert Breer
and his Monday Morning quarterback saying, this guy's a limit.
The guy's just incredible, incredible, just like this show.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Steve. Great to be with you again. See a Thursday.
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